1 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty Armstrong and 3 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: Jeckie and he arms Wrong yet to live from Studio C. 4 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 2: See, we got a brand new month on our hands. 5 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: Exciting as that. Here at the Armstrong and Getty Communications Compound, we. 6 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: Are under the tudler Jibber general manager, the great, the flawed. 7 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: He rolls to who's that greatest hitter of all time 8 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: in Major League? 9 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: BEZ ball fan for life for betting on bzbell is past. 10 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: Oh he died. 11 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: Yes, he died at the age of eighty eight, I 12 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: think for somebody eighty three eighty three, which good news 13 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: for him is he bet one thousand dollars it outlive 14 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: Chris Christofferson, so that's a good payoff. 15 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: Wow. 16 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: Wow, not appropriate. I just read a phrase I didn't 17 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: know it. Let's see, I like throwing around the Latin 18 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: when I can the mortuous, nil nissy bonum of the 19 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: dead say nothing but good Nah. I'm more of a 20 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: Jerry Seinfeld view of has enough of him anyway? Who 21 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: are you to argue with latin? You know I have 22 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: said this before and it's true. The biggest bias that 23 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: occurs in the news industry is what you cover, and 24 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: that's the one most people, I don't think get. What 25 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: you decide to cover is the biggest bias, and so 26 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: I try to bounce around on news. I try to 27 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: be I think like a regular person might be, although 28 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: I don't know how. 29 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: Many regular people do that. 30 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: I think maybe most people are either I only want 31 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: to hear the democratic side of things, or I only 32 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: want to hear the conservative side of things, so they 33 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: just stick to their own news source. Anyway, if you 34 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: were watching MSNBC today, for instance, you are completely unaware 35 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: of this longshoreman strike, completely unaware it is even happening. 36 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: If you watch Fox, it is the biggest story in 37 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: the country. The biggest story in the country, Bigger than 38 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: Israel going in on the ground, bigger than the debate tonight, 39 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: is the longshoreman strike. What would be your guess as 40 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: to why Fox made such a big deal out of 41 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: it and MSNBC made such a small deal out of it. 42 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: You have a guess Politically, well, not shockingly, I'm going 43 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: to come at this from a conservative point of view, 44 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: but I think it's universally agreed that this long shoreman strike, 45 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 2: should it stretch beyond a very short period, will cause 46 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: serious economic disruption. 47 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: So it is absolutely a legitimate news story. 48 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: I think the eagerness or hesitancy to cut it is 49 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: all about your attitude toward organized labor. On MSNBC, the 50 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: narrative of powerful union with members who make a lot 51 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: of money, he's going to screw up everyday americans lives 52 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: is not super attractive. Yeah, well, that's kind of the 53 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: way I was wondering. If that's the case, it's unless 54 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: there are some details I haven't heard yet. It looks 55 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: like the dock workers, the long sherman are really on 56 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: the wrong side of history on this all the way around. 57 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: Their biggest sticking issue is absolutely no automation, No automation 58 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: at all. 59 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: You're going to put it in writing. Give me our. 60 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: Jobs are going to be protected from technology forever. Give 61 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: me a freaking break. Yeah, gitting up a lot of sympathy. 62 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: Plus they're looking for something like a seventy seven percent raise. Yeah, 63 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: they were offered. They were offered a fifty percent raise 64 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: and turned it down. So I don't know how that 65 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: plays for most of America. Either, you turn down a 66 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: fifty percent raise. I'm making about twenty percent less because 67 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: of inflation with zero rays. So right, like I say, 68 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: jeitting up sympathy for that position is going to be 69 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: well impossible. 70 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: But the whole no automation. 71 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: I understand why you want to fight that, because your 72 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: job's going away. I know lots of people around here 73 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: in the radio industry have lost their jobs automation. 74 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: Tons of them. 75 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 2: It's a thing, and it's it can suck. But man, 76 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: this might be the first I don't know if it 77 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: is or not, but on the leading edge of this 78 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: getting a lot of attention because AI is going to 79 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: be this all day long, all day long, every day, 80 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 2: for every industry you can think of. Well, right, and unfortunately, 81 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: the prairie dogs of Cubicle America don't have powerful unions 82 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: and can't choke off commerce for weeks at a time and 83 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: bring this country to its knees. I again, I get 84 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: if I were in if I were running the union, 85 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: I would do exactly the same thing. If I have 86 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: the ability to pret tech my members' jobs for a 87 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: little while longer, I think I'm gonna try to do it. 88 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: But it's impossible to make the argument that that's better 89 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: for the economy, that's better for American general, that's better 90 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 2: for consumers, the only people. It's better for those guys 91 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 2: with those jobs. 92 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: But they can. I sympathize. I would try to do 93 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: the same thing. 94 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: But nobody is on your side, fellas no now trying 95 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: to hold on to an antiquated way of doing things. Sorry, 96 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: ain't gonna work. You're striking against cars as blacksmiths because 97 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 2: you want to keep shoeing horses. I just it just 98 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: ain't gonna happen. And we can't compete with China and 99 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: whoever else if we still got human beings unloading ships 100 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: with their unbelievably generous time off and healthcare packages and 101 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: four oh one k and everything like that. I was 102 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: just reading that in the Wall Street Journal. Good lord, 103 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: I wish I had that deal. I should have been 104 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: a longshoreman. But we can't compete against the rest of 105 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 2: the world. We still got human beings unloading ships and 106 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: everybody else's got it automated, right, Yeah, yeah, of course 107 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: it could be argued that a lot of our automation 108 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: was made in China and has spy wear and kill 109 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 2: switches and god knows what else. Probably small pox spewing 110 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: tanks in the board ready to do their evil bidding. 111 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: So they think it's last part was kind of made up. 112 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 1: Don't panic size. 113 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: They think it's going to cost the economy about five 114 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: billion dollars a day while the strike's going on. But 115 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: as you said, it's the After a few days, it 116 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: becomes a supply chain problem super fast. If we all 117 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: remember the pandemic, whence the supply chain gets messed up, 118 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: it takes a long time to straighten it back out. 119 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: There are already ships parked out in the ocean that 120 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: we're supposed to unload, and then they'll start backing up 121 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: and you'll start seeing things not on the shelves, and 122 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: we know how that goes if it lasts very long. 123 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: I don't think they got any leverage. Thirty six ports 124 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: are closed. I just saw up on the television. Wow, 125 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: that that is seriously a problem. Though the whole no 126 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: automation ain't going to happen. Yeesh AI is going to 127 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: cause that for paralegals, not just doc workers, for for 128 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: for budges. You can't come up with enough names of 129 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: industries that AI is going to do this too. Sure, Yeah, yeah, 130 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: and it's going to be an uncomfortable future. I still 131 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: maintain and if this is self declownment, I will readily 132 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 2: admit it on the air. If I am no longer 133 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: on the air, I will write a personal letter to 134 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: each and every one of you. Clown I am. I 135 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: am of the mind barely because this is so not me. 136 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: I think AI will be the technology that reduces employment, 137 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: doesn't grow it. 138 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I think so too. 139 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: Famously, the lad Heights of the world have vowed that 140 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: about every development technology throughout the ages. But it's actually 141 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: grown economies and created more opportunity than it's taken away. 142 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: But AI, I wonder. 143 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, hum, So you think the reason it's not going 144 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: to covered on the lefty channels is because they ain't 145 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: in a winning position. 146 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. 147 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: It makes organized labor look well indefensible. Oh yeah, you 148 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: can'ty objective standard if you're gonna just do the top 149 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: line demands. They turned down a fifty percent raise and 150 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: are asking for it. 151 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: Oh f them. 152 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: Most people are gonna say, yeah, so yeah, I think 153 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: so that's the way that works. They got a debate tonight. 154 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: I wonder if that topic will come up in the debate. 155 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: Be interesting to see how that plays out, how Walls reacts. 156 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: Joe Biden is refused to enact the Taft Tartly Law, 157 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: where he can jump in if there's a big giant 158 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: national strike that's affecting commerce and safety and all kinds 159 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: of different things, he can jump in and tell him you. 160 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: Got to go back to work. But he says he's 161 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: not going to go. He's a good old union Joe, 162 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: old straightened Joe, not going to do it. 163 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: I just hope the dock workers will remain polite and 164 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: well spoken and gentle as their reputation holds through the years. 165 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: I believe we're working on getting some clips of some 166 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 2: of those genteel folks, even if we speak. I did 167 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: hear a gentleman using foul language this morning, and I 168 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: didn't improve what. 169 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: A dock worker. 170 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: Uh, we should start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong, 171 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: He's Joe Getty on this. It is Tuesday, October. First, 172 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: the rents do there. 173 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: It's too damn high. 174 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: You know, they used to be kind of a joy, 175 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: but now it's just one hundred percent true. I saw 176 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: a political ad the other day. Uh, I don't know 177 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: if it was just for California or nationally. But it 178 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: was a whole string of regular people on the street 179 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: saying the rent is too damn high. 180 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: The rent is too damn high. I bring the rent 181 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: too damn high. That was the whole ad. And it 182 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: is it's too damn high. 183 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: I know mine is. Anyway, it's October first, twenty twenty four. 184 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: We are armstrong and getty, and we approve of this program. 185 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 2: All right, let's rock into October officially according to CC 186 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: rules and regulations, here we go A one two three 187 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 2: four mark two to. 188 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: One bit from Shall. 189 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: Rotop four thousand, one hundred and ninety. 190 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: Two baseball's all time hit. Later, Pete Rose. 191 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: They had a quite a discussion on NPR today about 192 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 2: Pete Rose, the baseball player whose heyday was in the seventies, 193 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 2: so you got to be a certain age to have 194 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: actually experienced it, about how he was such an American icon, 195 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: represented America, became sort of the face of America for 196 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: a lot of people sports wise. 197 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting. 198 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: I'd never really thought of that before because of the 199 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 2: whole working class Charlie Hustle thangy yeah, which I thought 200 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: he also was a kid, Yeah he was. He worked 201 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: like a maniac and played harder than anybody else. He 202 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: was not a prima donna by any stretch. How come 203 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: nobody else has adopted the sprint to first when you 204 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: walk thing? Because I thought that was so cool as 205 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: a kid. 206 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. 207 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: I don't remember. I don't think anybody else has ever 208 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: done it. If he walked, he would sprint to first 209 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: instead of which is the way he went. Well, they 210 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: call it a walk. You could argue he was a 211 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 2: little nutty. In fact, it's inarguable that he was a 212 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: little nutty as part of what made him great, right, 213 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: and he enjoyed the challenge of prognosticating future baseball results. 214 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: Does that make him a bad guy? 215 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 216 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. 217 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: I don't want to get into that again, but I 218 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: think it's weird if you're going to have a Hall 219 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 2: of Fame that talks about baseball records, but you don't 220 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: have the guy that's gotten the most hits and the 221 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: guy that's hitting the most home runs in there. I 222 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: don't know exactly what you're doing, but fine, well he will. 223 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: He will go in the Hall of Fame. Now I 224 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 2: can practice. 225 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: Now that he's dead. Well, he was banned for life. Well, 226 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: and you're so. 227 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: Your argument is he's no longer alive. Yeah, an clime 228 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: ban ends when you're no longer alive. It's right in 229 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 2: there in lifetime. It's right in there lifetime. Well, yes, yes, 230 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: there's no joke to be made. 231 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: It was exactly what it means. They just didn't want 232 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: to give him the satisfaction. 233 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: I should violated the inviolable law gambling on your own sport. 234 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever met Pete Rose or not. 235 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: I should have though. 236 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: If I didn't, I should have gone to Vegas sometime 237 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: when he was just an old fat man sitting at 238 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: a card table outside of casino and you know, paid 239 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 2: for a baseball, shook hands with him as Michael. 240 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: My nephew got his autograph two months ago. 241 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: Oh cool, yeah, oh wow, there you go. I have 242 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: him claim it was Pete's last autograph. I got Pete's last. 243 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 2: He keeled over internet. He just heat finished the e 244 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: and then he was just right there on the floor. 245 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: How does mailbag look? That's fine, it's good clever. It's 246 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: on the way and our text line is four one 247 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: five two nine five KFTC. For some reason it being uh, 248 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: October on my watch when I looked at it today 249 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: was striking just wow. So we got three months left 250 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: in twenty four and then it's twenty twenty five. 251 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: What the hell? The math checks out. 252 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 2: Once in a while that happens, just just like, how 253 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: how are we a quarter of a century into this 254 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: century already? I know we need to recheck the numbers 255 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: or tap on the glass to see if the machine 256 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: is working correctly. 257 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. 258 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: And there's something about October. It's the final quarter of 259 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: the year. It's unquestionably the fall. Something about it feels 260 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: very transitional in a way. That's well, if you have 261 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: kids in school, I guess September holiday season is looming 262 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: because you can feel Halloween, which leads into Thanksgiving in Christmas, 263 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: and yeah, all. 264 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: That is sterness in the face. 265 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: Well, you're celebrating Halloween if you're a Satan worshiper. I 266 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 2: am not. Here's your freedom loving Court of the Day, 267 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: interrupting our series from Huxley because Jeff and hogs Nipple, 268 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 2: Tennessee boy hit hard by the hurricane, passed along this 269 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: from Friedrich Hayek, which I absolutely love. Teachers, journalists and 270 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: other second hand dealers in ideas appoint themselves as representatives 271 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: of modern thought, as person superior in knowledge and moral 272 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: virtue to any who retain a high regard for traditional values. 273 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: There isn't much cachet in affirming traditional values. Challenging them 274 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: is much sexier. That's why every teenager does, which is fine. 275 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: It's all right to passage when you got to numbskulld 276 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: Adults doing it well into their thirties, forties, sixties, et cetera. 277 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: It's pretty annoying. Mailbag Woo woo drops note mail bag 278 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: and armstrong you getty dot com loyal listen. Robert sent 279 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: along this note along with a helpful link. Is the 280 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: title of his email, speeking people in their forties and above. 281 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: You might recognize the joke. S'mod is that you? 282 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: It's me Roberts take off on a very famous piece 283 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: of the youth literature of the past. He's talking about 284 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: the sweeten year of death. There is We're going to 285 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: have a second moon for seven days on Earth. 286 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard that. It is a meteor. It's a 287 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: rock the size of a school bus. 288 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: It's going to kind of connect and stay in orbit 289 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: for a couple of months and then you know, cut 290 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: loocive orbit because of various astrophysical mathematical realities, and then 291 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: go on, it's merry way. They had a joke about 292 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: that on Saturday Alive. I thought was hilarious. You didn't 293 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: think it was funny, Michael. Michael picks the funny jokes 294 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: from Sorry I Live. You didn't like the moon joke. 295 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: It's okay, all right, Hey, you never know, one of 296 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: those NASA folks, Robert Wrights, might have been a DEEI higher. 297 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: They forgot to carry the one on a calculation. Blammo, 298 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: election day cancel because the rock the size of a 299 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: school bus slams into a swing state as Trump was saying, 300 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: something nutty. 301 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: Could happen. 302 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: Their joke was something like, the new slim moon is 303 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: going to make the old Moon really look like a 304 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: fat ass. 305 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: Wow. Wow. I didn't like it either, Michael. You're Jared 306 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: and Missouri. 307 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: On the topic of the perils of AI, there's a 308 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: constant theme in literature of humanity destroying itself with its creations, 309 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: from Frankenstein to the Matrix and hundreds of other stories. 310 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: You're quite right, good reason to fear AI, because, as 311 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: we know it's not the AI exactly, but the inputs 312 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: to AI that make it dangerous. I'm far more concerned 313 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: about some rogue idiot inserting white males are the anime 314 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: into the programming of Wardrones that I am about Skynet coming. 315 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: For boy, No kidding, that's a good point. Let's see 316 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: do we have time for this? Yeah? 317 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: Great note from Bob n simple Jack, pork Shop and 318 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: the Gang. I was listening to the Boys Falling Behind 319 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: segment of Monday's show I'm a Dad to Two Boys 320 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: seventeen nineteen. I've seen the demoralization of boys over the years. 321 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: In the late seventies, when I was in middle school, 322 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: we had metal shop, wood shop, auto shop. In our 323 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: high school, we have none of those classes. There's no 324 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: class to stimulate and attract our young men to use 325 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: their hands to create and build, and physical education classes 326 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: not a requirement. Seems like the goal of high school 327 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: is to offer an easy path with easy classes to graduate. 328 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: And they talked about every empowering TV commercial is about 329 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: empowering women. Yeah, never dudes, and lots of classes that 330 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: appeal to the feminine side, right, Yeah, that's rough, dang it. 331 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: Come on in China, we're weak and effeminine, heartbreaking. We 332 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: have a lot of news to catch you up on 333 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: it's debate day, among other things, so stay with us, 334 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 2: armstrong and getty. Kamala Harris released an eighty one page 335 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: book outlining her economic policy because you know how women. 336 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: Like to go on and on, and. 337 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 2: Just wanted to bring that up because the eighty one 338 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 2: page book that Kamala Harris put out explaining her economic 339 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: policy before she gave her speech had eighty three mentions 340 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 2: of Joe Biden in it, more mentions of Biden than 341 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 2: there were pages, yet didn't mention his name once in 342 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: her address that day, which most people found pretty interesting. 343 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: I mean, that was worthy of being on every page, 344 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 2: but not in the speech at all, with the assumption 345 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: I think that nobody's ever going to read it. And 346 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 2: she and she and her her running mate Tampon Trotzky 347 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: tim are are just hammering the idea that she's the 348 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 2: candidate of changed. We can't have anymore. We can't take 349 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 2: another four years to this garbage. We need change, Kamala. 350 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: You know. So we are five weeks from today from 351 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 2: the presidential election, and we have a vice presidential debate tonight. 352 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: But I had forgotten this, which to me means the 353 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: Trump people aren't doing a good enough job. The fact 354 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: that I forgot this, I was reaching reading Mark Calprin's 355 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: morning newsletter like I usually do, and and on his 356 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 2: list of things for both sides was the Harris Wall's 357 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: ticket is the most liberal ticket the United States has 358 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: ever had with a major party, which is clearly true. 359 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: But I'd forgotten that, I think, and I think the 360 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: fact that I've forgotten that is it's not being hammered enough. 361 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: That should be the like, the only thing most people 362 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 2: know this is the most liberal ticket we've ever had 363 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 2: in our nation's history, which is it's actually true. 364 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: That ought to be a never ending drum beat. 365 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: You're right, but on Trump's improv comedy tour, he just 366 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: see riffs on whatever he feels like at that moment. 367 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: A little frustrating. 368 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: Don't hit her for being dumb or mentally deranged or whatever. 369 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: It's the most liberal ticket in US history. It's out 370 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 2: of the mainstream that will win you the election. It's 371 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: just undeniable. Trump is running a terrible campaign. He may 372 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 2: still win because he's up against a terrible candidate, but 373 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: it's a terrible campaign, awful. Jd Vance has been a 374 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: lot more disciplined. I've been reading various bits of analysis about. 375 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: What now. 376 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: You got cat ladies, you got cat eating, that's your discipline. Wow, Wow, 377 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: the two cats as it's big called boy. 378 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: That's a good point. 379 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 2: So a bunch of analysis about how Jad smart. He's 380 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: a Wall Street guy who did a book tour. He 381 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: debated a moderate but a truly liberal Democrat for the 382 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 2: senescee blah blah, and then Wallas's debating skills. 383 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: And it'll be fine. 384 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: Bring it on, see if you can land any punches. 385 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: I'll watch as long as I can stand it. 386 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: Ninety minutes. 387 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: But the Wall Street Journal, in their big preview ninety minute, 388 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: I know that's enough for anybody. 389 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: There won't be a single American watching that last half hour. 390 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: I would have you didn't know, truer words never spake, sister, Yeah, 391 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 2: I'd only have as the moderator, three prompts. All right, 392 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: you say something really mean about him? All right, your turn, 393 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: you say something really mean about him? All right? Well, 394 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: all right now number two? Why is your candidate a 395 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: good candidate? 396 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: All right? 397 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 2: All right, now you all right, Number three, why is 398 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: the other candidate a crappy candidate? All right, We're through here, 399 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: everybody go back to your lives. Thanks for tuning in 400 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes. 401 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: Max. 402 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: How about CBS announcing the candidates will be fact checking themselves. One, 403 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 2: that's what a debate is, so thanks for that. And 404 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: two isn't that an acknowledgment that that what ABC did 405 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 2: was a horror? 406 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: Yes? 407 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have not come across anybody defending ABC and 408 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 2: David Muhr. 409 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: What that woman is? 410 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 2: I don't know if you have to watch many debates, 411 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: it's not the job of the moderator to jump in 412 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: and fact check people. Oh who That point they just 413 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,479 Speaker 2: tried to make was not a solid one and can 414 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 2: be refuted on this basis. 415 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: No, that's not what the moderator does. Oh, I hate 416 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: David Muir and that woman, but they aren't doing it tonight. 417 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: You have no name? She girl? 418 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 2: No? 419 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: Oh, anyway, let me get to my point. 420 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: So there's all this analysis of the comparative skills and 421 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 2: you know, the possible tactics and blah blah. But then 422 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 2: I get to this in the Wall Street Journal, what 423 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: might Walls be asked about his handling the Minneapolis riots 424 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: following the George Floyd thing, his management of the COVID 425 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: nine pandemic, his exit from the National Guard, and the 426 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 2: leftward shift in Minnesota politics and policies, and I thought, Wow, okay, 427 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: that sounds pretty legit. 428 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: What might Advance be asked? 429 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: Vance will likely be asked about his twenty twenty one 430 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: comment that the country is run by childless cat ladies 431 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: and why he elevated a falsehood about Haitians in Ohio 432 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 2: eating household pats the two. 433 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: Cats doctrine Jack brought to our attention. Wow, so it's 434 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: gonna be both the cat questions. 435 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 2: He also might be asked to explain why in twenty 436 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 2: sixteen he called Trump an idiot and compared him to Hitler, 437 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: and why his late as twenty twenty he continued to be. 438 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: Critical of him. 439 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: So very little of that is about what policy would 440 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: be when you're in office, and not a single damn 441 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: syllable of it would affect the lives of Americans. No 442 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: walls is like National Guard record or whatever. I get 443 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: that being a story like when he first landed on 444 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: the scene a month ago or whatever, but god dang it, 445 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: I don't care about that anymore. At all mind, I. 446 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: Could see taking shots. 447 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: At him for being a serial resume patter, but no, 448 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: I don't particularly it's it's not a pivotal issue. But 449 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 2: I do think it's interesting that in the Wall Street 450 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: Journals fantasy, perhaps most of the stuff about Walls is 451 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: pretty relevant because it has to do with policy and 452 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: track record, as opposed to the van stuff, none of 453 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: which affects any Americans life in Iota unless you're I 454 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: don't know, a pet store owner in Springfield, Ohio, and 455 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 2: sales have gone down because people figure they'll buy the 456 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: cat and then just get eaten anyway, So what's the point. 457 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: Why why is this never a question in a debate? 458 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: What's the role of the federal government? Mister Walls? Oh wow, 459 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: how about that? Instead of digging into you said in 460 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one childless cat whatever, more Americans than ever 461 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 2: and on the federal government for money? 462 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: Why do you think that is? Is that a good 463 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: thing or a bad thing? Just you know, that'd be interesting. 464 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: So the New York Times is trying to lower expectations. 465 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: They had an article yesterday about Tim Walls is so nervous, 466 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: he's chewing his fingernails. He's never been in a debate 467 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 2: like this before. He's new to the game of politics, 468 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: which is a bit of a made up story, as 469 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: he's been in politics for twenty years and debated a 470 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 2: whole bunch of times, and really good on his feet, 471 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: and I doubt he's the least bit nervous. A crock 472 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: of crap that is yea. But yeah, lowering expectations quick 473 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: note that I wanted to get on to my main 474 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: point in bringing all of this to your attention. My habitations, 475 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 2: my expectations are boredom. 476 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Ninety minutes. 477 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, difficult to watch, continually reminding myself you have to 478 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 2: pay attention, Joseph. You have to pay attention right scrolling 479 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: through your phone checking out baseball scores. I kind of 480 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: like this note from sideshow Bob. He's a speaker of truth. 481 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 2: It's a seer of reality. It's funny seeing all the 482 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: comments about Kamla not doing anything about the border is veep. 483 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: As a side note, no effing fan of hers. Veeeps 484 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: never do anything. 485 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: In fact, the last one did exactly one thing I 486 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: can remember, and y'all wanted to hang him for it. 487 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: Wow, that's good, Bob, That is a good point. Yet 488 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: that happens. 489 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 2: Vice president's regularly run usually not let this, but they 490 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 2: regularly run, and then they always have to all of 491 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 2: a sudden act like they were consequential when they were 492 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: just hanging around waiting for an international funeral for four 493 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: years and well, and the reality of it is the 494 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: job has no duties except breaking ties in the Senate 495 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: and is famously just useless. It's a career killer. As 496 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: often as this it is a career launcher. But Kamala 497 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: and Joe absolutely flogged the notion for the last four 498 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 2: years that she was the last person in the room. 499 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: She was his closest advisor. She was the border zar 500 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: or all right, the root causes zar. How's that going? 501 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: And now it's about face that. No, she's the candidate 502 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: to change, so it's all phony. But to have it 503 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: both ways is a little annoying, and you want to 504 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 2: stick it to them anyway. Here is my action at 505 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: my actual point, after asking about the National Guard and 506 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 2: cat ladies and Hitler, not a single word will be asked, 507 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 2: probably about this Wall Street Journal opinion piece a Medicare 508 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: election bribe for seniors. This story is admittedly complicated, but 509 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: it's the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid services, touting in 510 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: a press release that average Part D premiums will be 511 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 2: declining by ninety dollars next year, while benefits will improve 512 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: thanks to the Inflation Reduction Act and other new enhancements 513 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: that actually cut funding for insurance companies who said they 514 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 2: would raise premiums, which would depress benefits, which would cause 515 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: the pharmaceutic companies to declare war on the pharmacies and 516 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: something something, and our entitlement programs are utterly falling apart 517 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: and built on fraud, top to bottom. Fraud and dishonest 518 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: accounting is the part, is the point of this article. 519 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: It's actually quite interesting. It's just very difficult to explain. 520 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: Not a word on that we'll hear about child ass 521 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: cat ladies. Well, it's always been true to a certain extent, 522 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 2: and it's more true now than ever. 523 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: We're more into. 524 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 2: Like in the personality of the person than their stance 525 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 2: on thorny issues things that affect our lives, right, yes, yeah, 526 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: And for the record, having a cat or two does 527 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 2: not make one a cat lady in my world. I 528 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 2: thought we decided three was the over under three and 529 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: a half. Yeah, three and yeah, three and a half 530 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 2: is the over under. If you have three cats, you're 531 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: definitely under cat lady suspicion. You tell me you got 532 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: three cats, I'm in your house. I'm like, that's a 533 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: that's a lot of cats. They're a fair number of cats. 534 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: But four, yeah, what the hell cat lady? Now if 535 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 2: you are a child in cat Lady, or what about 536 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: cat lady whose kids are grown? 537 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: What does JD. 538 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: Evans have to say about that? You raise your kids, 539 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 2: they're they're fabulous, good citizens, nice folks, honest, hard working, 540 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: patriotic Americans. 541 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: And now you have seventeen cats. I don't know you. 542 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: Does Jdvans think you should not have a say you 543 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: got that many cats? Me and my Haitian friend Harvier 544 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 2: are getting up the cookbook. 545 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: They're eating the dogs, the people that came in. They're 546 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: eating outs. They're eating I want to they're eating I 547 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: want to talk about live there. 548 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: About medicare, and you two clowns with it. Never mind, 549 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: you clowns. That's gonna come up early in the debate tonight, 550 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: you know it is. And I'm gonna roll my eyes 551 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: so hard it might get kids. 552 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: Come help me. Dad's eyes are stuck again. 553 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: The Haitian cat eating thing will come up early in 554 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: the debate, don't you think first Yeah, maybe first fifteen minutes. 555 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: Maybe first question. It might be the two cat doctrine. Yesh, God, 556 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: oh God help us. We got a couple of wars 557 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: going on. 558 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: I hope there's some questions about that, and you see 559 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 2: where everybody stands. And then the dock workers strike. I 560 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: think that'd be a good thing to hear their opinions on. 561 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: I don't know how Walls would handle that, because it 562 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: seems to me that the Left is trying to ignore 563 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: this dock worker story, so maybe CBS won't even bring 564 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 2: it up. Anyway, we got some more other news to 565 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: get into. You might not know about some of those things. 566 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 2: We'll try to fill in the details. What did Joe 567 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: Biden say yesterday when he was asked about the strike? 568 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: What did you say yesterday when he was asking about 569 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: Israel going in on the ground in Lebanon? Both of 570 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: his answers were troubling. 571 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: Bat care all on the way. 572 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: I've noticed that with parenting, I've got a almost thirteen 573 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: year old and a going on fifteen year old. You 574 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: only think about this sort of stuff constantly, the whole 575 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: parenting thing only constantly so, and not only for my 576 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: own kids, but just for society in general. As much 577 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: as we talk about it and it gets talked about, 578 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: I still think it's underappreciated. The great change that had 579 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: happened in the last twenty years of nobody walking around 580 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 2: staring at the phone to everyone walking around staring at 581 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: the phone is underappreciated. It's so ubiquitous and there's so 582 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 2: little you can do about it that I guess, you know, 583 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: why even talk about it. But that is the biggest 584 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: change to humanity, maybe ever in a short amount of time. 585 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: You know, the Industrial Revolution came on much slower than that, 586 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: or lots of other things. The I think about it, 587 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: maybe I think about it too much, Maybe I got 588 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: a problem. Maybe I should see a therapist about this. 589 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: But like, drive him by a bus stop and everybody's 590 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,479 Speaker 2: staring at their phone. I think then twenty years ago, 591 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 2: they'd either been talking to each other or reading a 592 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: book or thinking or something, but they wouldn't. 593 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: Have been staring at their phones all the time. 594 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: All the kids coming out of the high school and 595 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: I pick up my son, everybody walks out looking at 596 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: their phone. Four people walking out of the school together, 597 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,719 Speaker 2: all looking at their phone instead of talking to each other. 598 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: It's just what an amazing change leading to this. I 599 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: think this fits in this guy, Yanni Applebaum, who I 600 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 2: don't actually know. He writes for the Atlantic, and it 601 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: looks like his politics are not mine, but he's He's 602 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: definitely right about this. Tweeted out and then got a 603 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 2: whole bunch of responses to educators. This is about the 604 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: incoming class of college freshmen all across America, and particularly 605 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: at elite universities, but I'm sure it's the same everywhere. 606 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 2: Teacher in Illinois told me that, Okay, I'll start with 607 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: his large numbers of students arriving at highly selective universities 608 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 2: are unprepared to read a book cover to cover because 609 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: no teacher has ever asked them to do that before. 610 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 2: That's his article in The Atlantic. 611 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: Good Lord. 612 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: And then the response is from teachers all across the 613 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: country to this, saying, yeah, basically, here's a public high 614 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 2: school teacher in Illinois who used to structure her classes 615 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 2: around books, but now focuses on skills such as how 616 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: to make good decisions and about leadership. Students read parts 617 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: of the Odyssey and supplements with music articles and ted talks, 618 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: but do not read. 619 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: The entire book. Here's another one. 620 00:32:59,440 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: That I like. 621 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: The blah blah blah blah. 622 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: During the fall twenty twenty two semester, when a first 623 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 2: year student came to his office during office hours to 624 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 2: share how challenging they had found the early assignments in 625 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: literature humanities class. It required students to read a book, 626 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: sometimes a very long and dense one, in just a 627 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 2: week or two. But the student told the advisor that 628 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: her public high schools she had never been required to 629 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 2: read an entire book. This is somebody who got into 630 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: an elite university. She had been assigned excerpts poetry and 631 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 2: news articles, but not a book cover to cover, and 632 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 2: found it quite daunting. Here's a Melville scholar at one 633 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 2: of your fancy Pans universities who switched American literature on 634 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: Melville from Moby Dick. They dropped Moby Dick and now 635 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 2: read the short stories. One has to adjust to the times. 636 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 2: The teacher said a number of professors told him for 637 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: his Atlantic article that their students see reading books as 638 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: similar to listening to vinyl records, something that a small 639 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 2: subculture might still enjoy. 640 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: But that's most relic of an earlier time in the 641 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: blink of an eye, as you were describing, right right, Yeah, wow. 642 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 2: So kind of similar to what you were saying earlier 643 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 2: about AI might be the first time. I think it's 644 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: going to be the first time that the technology advancement 645 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: actually does away with a whole bunch of jobs and 646 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 2: doesn't replace them with new jobs. I think this is 647 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 2: one of these scares that is going to turn out 648 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 2: to be true. The whole We did a thing a 649 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 2: while back on all the things jazz was blamed for 650 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 2: when jazz became popular music. Jazz was leading to promiscuous 651 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: sex and economic problems and people couldn't read and blah 652 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: blah blah. Everything was blamed on jazz. So all of 653 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 2: the ideas to play in a jazz band, and I 654 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 2: certainly hoped so, but my hopes were dashed. 655 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: But lots of different changes in society. You're blamed for 656 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: all kinds of things. 657 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,439 Speaker 2: This one the intention span staring at the phones, can't 658 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: read a book is not good. 659 00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: This is not going to be okay. 660 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, the intellectual stuff bothers me, but I think it 661 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: bothers me less than the connectedness stuff, the emotionals, the 662 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 2: mental health stuff of not being connected to your peers, 663 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 2: not laughing and joking and poking fun at each other 664 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 2: and sharing your idle thoughts with each other. 665 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: That one really bothers me. Yeah, I don't think it's 666 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 1: going away. We have a lot more for you. I 667 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: hope you can stick around. 668 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 2: Moby Dick the Whale winds spoiler alert, Armstrong and Getty