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Speaker 3: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 4: Devil's Night, Cabbage Night, tonight, give you that tradition, cabbage night.

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Speaker 5: It was pretty sure he had three touchdowns and three

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Speaker 5: out of four of those games.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because I think I saw that on the red

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Speaker 7: Cool Evan's pants would be so tight and be looked

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Speaker 7: like he's smuggling plumbs.

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Speaker 3: Alex doesn't get the ans well.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if how do we get this one?

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Speaker 4: This was probably is it about before his time, grass

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Speaker 6: Past free roaming chicken.

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Speaker 1: It's about you guys being old and me being young.

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Speaker 1: That hurts.

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Speaker 8: That's hey, Boomer. But we'll see if she remembers this

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Speaker 8: one though he's like, okay, Joe and Michigan. Denver has

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Speaker 8: nine home games this year and eight on the road.

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Speaker 8: It's actually less.

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Speaker 9: On the road. I don't see any reason why they

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Speaker 9: should be twenty eight than scoring. It's bothered me all week.

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Speaker 3: It really has way on talent, wait, talent.

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Speaker 6: I was watching the.

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Speaker 7: Tragedy in the world a forward pass has to come

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go on a limb without knowing sho ould

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Speaker 5: disclosure from the head. Do not know the black and

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Speaker 5: white rule in the book. I'm going to say that

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 7: It is Tuesday here at Let's Stadium. Patriots keep winning.

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Speaker 7: It's good for business, good for the show.

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Speaker 3: We love it.

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Speaker 1: We love it.

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Speaker 7: On top of the h and the tie for the

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Speaker 7: AFC conference, not not just the a f C East,

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Speaker 7: but tie for the best record in the a f C. Now,

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Speaker 7: so things are things are coming up. Roses, it's Evan,

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Speaker 7: it's Paul, it's me.

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Speaker 3: It stews.

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Speaker 7: Matt Alex in the booth talking Patriots. The deadline for

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Speaker 7: the trades today at four o'clock.

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Speaker 5: The deadline for the trades, Yes, today at four o'clock.

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Speaker 7: Right, a little breaking news, minor news of Patriots signed.

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Speaker 7: Reportedly Jerry Rice's son, Brendan Rice, wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked a practice squad, senior bull guy.

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Speaker 9: He might end of the senior Bowl. We kicked his

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Speaker 9: name around during that draft, but has not had a

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Speaker 9: great NFL career, hasn't done much of anything.

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Speaker 3: Twelve touchdowns with USC, is that right?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? Yeah, there's a good college player. Yeah, seeming to

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Speaker 9: be an outside speed any speed, No more like a

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Speaker 7: So not something we should be like, Oh okay, he

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Speaker 3: No, okay, all right, So I don't even.

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Speaker 9: Know if he's going to be signed to the act.

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Speaker 7: Of roster as anyone heard anything, any reports Diane Rossini,

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Speaker 7: Albert Breer, Yeah, well, Ben Vohlan, anybody.

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Speaker 3: Shakobe Myers on the move where Jacksonville? I mean as

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's as closest we're getting. That's as close

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Speaker 9: This might be the most overrated day in the NFL calendar.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, And I don't I blame us, like if

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Speaker 9: have like trade deadline specials and countdowns and this and

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Speaker 9: Dancic of the NFL is not getting traded today. Like

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Speaker 9: you know, Jacoby Myers might be the biggest name that

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Speaker 9: gets traded today. Yeah, he honestly might. And that's not

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Speaker 9: a knock on Jacoby. It's just you hear some of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well they're already unloaded.

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Speaker 3: You're going to lose them and you're gonna get nothing.

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Speaker 9: I understand. I just every year we do this with

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Speaker 3: Like does that bother you?

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Speaker 9: Does it bothers me? How much attention it gets?

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Speaker 9: Like we're we're talking about like a third pass rusher,

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Speaker 1: It's quite kind of like.

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Speaker 4: The NHL because it's built in that some star players

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Speaker 1: Like the sports.

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Speaker 5: Different. I know, you don't know what you would know

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Speaker 9: He doesn't know if it's blown up or stuff.

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Speaker 5: But baseball, hockey, and basketball, the trade deadlines involve like

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Speaker 7: Do you think part of team's reluctance from for doing

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Speaker 7: And I could see that if they just a rental

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Speaker 5: I think that high end players in general, teams want

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Speaker 3: The difference now?

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Speaker 7: You know, so I get him now and yeah, he's

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Speaker 5: Oh no, I understand your point about acquiring him. So

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Speaker 5: Yeah for holding on to him, Now, you have to

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Speaker 5: I don't know that the Bengals will do that. They

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Speaker 9: I think over the thin you did over the player

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Speaker 10: Right if you get blown away by an offer, you know,

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Speaker 5: like I think Miami would have to be blown away

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Speaker 5: Jalen Waddle, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's hard for a team like the Patriots

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Speaker 9: I just think it's a difference of in sports, Like

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Speaker 3: Well, it's nine games or eight games, right, So if.

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Speaker 9: You're trading for rental as a team like the Patriots,

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Speaker 5: If you were going to make that deal, right, you'd

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Speaker 5: Jalen Phillips went for a third to the Eagles. Would

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Mike would have too. I'm going to guess Evan

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Speaker 9: What draft was he twenty two?

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Speaker 5: Like don't derail like suddenly trading a third or a

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Speaker 5: the same thing about the two thousand and one Patriots

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Speaker 5: If you could make a move that could help you,

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Speaker 5: I think you should be interested in that. I'm not

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Speaker 5: don't understand why you wouldn't be interested in taking a run.

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Speaker 5: the cautionary tale of the Washington commanders. What did the

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Speaker 5: Like, they didn't. They didn't bugage anything.

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Speaker 3: Right, I'd still do what they did to get whatever

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Speaker 11: Go all in.

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Speaker 7: He played well and whatever they gave up.

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Speaker 5: That's my point is they didn't mortgage the future to

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Speaker 9: I'm just not a big fan of Jalen Phillips. Like

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Speaker 5: You know, And that's see that to me is a

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Speaker 3: What are you given up the need? Absolutely you should

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Speaker 5: That's the only thing that any of the writers are

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Speaker 4: This is year one. You know, they want to continue

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Speaker 4: the Patriots already playing with house money this year. They

441
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Speaker 4: are going to make the playoffs, you know, with the

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Speaker 4: team as currently constituted. But I don't want to get

443
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Speaker 4: there and feel like you missed an opportunity because Harold

444
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Speaker 4: Landry got hurt in week fifteen.

445
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and now you've.

446
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Speaker 4: Got Elijah Ponder get thrown into the fire and we'll

447
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Speaker 4: see how it'll go.

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Speaker 7: One of your guys last night, Paul I was listening

449
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Speaker 7: on the way home Joe Murray, and I agree with him.

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Speaker 3: He said, the season is already a success. It's already

451
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Speaker 3: a success.

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Speaker 9: I agree.

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Speaker 1: I think there's going to be nuanced to you and

454
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Speaker 1: there things can still happen.

455
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Speaker 5: There's a lot of I mean, I'm not trying to

456
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Speaker 5: play that generally speak, but there's a lot of negative

457
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Speaker 5: things that could happen over the last half of the

458
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Speaker 5: season to make this nothing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if the season today, if somehow and the.

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Speaker 5: Season today, I would say it's.

461
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Speaker 7: Somehow, you know, the league had to be canceled for whatever.

462
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Speaker 7: This season has been a success.

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Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, but have a general pause point though that

464
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Speaker 4: a lot of twists and turns can happen that you

465
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Speaker 4: don't really know. But assuming that things go forward as

466
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Speaker 4: they've kind of been, I think it's a very good

467
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Speaker 4: chance that you're going to come out of this season feeling,

468
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Speaker 4: you know, very positive and the way more positive end.

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Speaker 3: Then we got our quarterback and we got our coach.

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Speaker 6: Okay, this is what I'm I'm glad that you said

471
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Speaker 6: it exactly that way.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Paul. What if?

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Speaker 5: What if the second half of what we saw on

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Speaker 5: Sunday is what we see the next eight weeks with Drake,

475
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Speaker 5: I don't feel quite the same about the season.

476
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd have to know the context.

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Speaker 5: Admittedly, that is an unbelievable extreme that I'm.

478
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Speaker 3: Not expecting, and you know, we have a lot of

479
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Speaker 3: three I might have then, But that's.

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Speaker 5: All I'm saying, because there's a lot of things that

481
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Speaker 5: could happen over the last eight weeks of the season

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Speaker 5: that could change your opinion. Right now, wild success, Well,

483
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Speaker 5: your quarterback looks like a stud good segue into lingering

484
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Speaker 5: thoughts from the game on Sunday.

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Speaker 9: Well, I just you know, do bringing up the run game.

486
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Speaker 9: And I do think there are cracks showing in the

487
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Speaker 9: Drake May foundation right now with his game that maybe

488
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Speaker 9: you know, you're asking him to elevate a lot of

489
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Speaker 9: things right now on this offense, and you was as

490
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Speaker 9: the competition has gotten a little bit better, at least

491
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Speaker 9: for the defenses that he's going up against. He's going

492
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Speaker 9: to face another good one in Tampa Bay on Sunday.

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Speaker 9: You know how much of that is really sustainable for

494
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Speaker 9: seventeen plus games to take a middling offensive line, middling

495
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Speaker 9: receiving room and be a top five passing offense and

496
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Speaker 9: pretty much every metric you know that without really a

497
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Speaker 9: great running game. You know, I think that that's a

498
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Speaker 9: lot of what we're seeing right now with Drake May

499
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Speaker 9: is there's he has filled a lot of holes on

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Speaker 9: his own.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's the outlook for Remandre to be bad? We've

502
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Speaker 1: able answered it on Friday. It seemed like it's gonna

503
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Speaker 1: be a little bit.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't I mean, he didn't say he'll be off

506
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Speaker 4: to seek We'll see, but I assume it's and.

507
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Speaker 5: I don't know this, but wouldn't you just assume he

508
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Speaker 5: has turf toe, which seems to be the the injury

509
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Speaker 5: in the NFL this year, And just look at the

510
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Speaker 5: other guys that are getting turf toe.

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Speaker 6: How long they've been.

512
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Speaker 3: Out, like six weeks minimum, six weeks.

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Speaker 5: You know, Borrow's going to miss three months minimum. Pretty

514
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Speaker 5: They just recently he was already missed about six or

515
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Speaker 5: seven games. They just I think Shanahan recently said that

516
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Speaker 5: it's something he's going to have to deal with the

517
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Speaker 5: entire season. It's not going to be one hundred So

518
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Speaker 5: if he has turf toe, could he play in a

519
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Speaker 5: week or two, probably, but not. I don't expect him

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Speaker 5: to be one hundred percent the rest of the year.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 5: I think it's worth it, and he picked up bullets correct.

523
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Speaker 5: It's worth it for that because because the other guy

524
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Speaker 5: still worries me in that role, and I think he's

525
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Speaker 5: getting better. I think Henderson's getting better at it. But

526
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Speaker 5: I think some of the some of the pressure on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: I heard someone talking about this today and I would

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Speaker 5: like to credit them, but I don't know who. It

529
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Speaker 5: was mentioned that he was a little up and down

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Speaker 5: in that regard.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he gave up three hurries, one of them one

532
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Speaker 9: of them led directly to a sack but the other

533
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Speaker 9: two were kind of you know, slow deaths, like he

534
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Speaker 9: was getting bull rush and he was kind of holding

535
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Speaker 9: on for dear life.

536
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Speaker 5: And like sometimes say about winning, it's just showing.

537
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Speaker 9: Up all with those for a running back against the linebacker,

538
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Speaker 9: you know, giving up the size that he's giving up.

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Speaker 9: But you know, I thought in this game, you know,

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Speaker 9: they took six sacks, and I thought five of them

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Speaker 9: were on Drake. You know, there's open receivers and he's

542
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Speaker 9: just not seeing it or hesitating or yeah, you doing

543
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Speaker 9: the double clutches that we saw in the second half

544
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Speaker 9: post strip sack, and all the numbers just kind of

545
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Speaker 9: plummet after the strip sack compared to before.

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Speaker 3: Let's go into that.

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Speaker 7: You say that there were open receivers on five of

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Speaker 7: the six sacks. Yeah, where was where was the pressure

549
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Speaker 7: coming from? Where were his eyes in relation? And what

550
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Speaker 7: was the timing of that? Because you know, we've talked

551
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Speaker 7: about this in the past a lot of times. On TV,

552
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Speaker 7: they'll show you in one frame the quarterback and then

553
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Speaker 7: another frame a wide open receiver. Yeah, but the quarterback

554
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Speaker 7: there's no way, because of what was going on in

555
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Speaker 7: front of him, that he had time to see that

556
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Speaker 7: so in fairness, like what was going on at the

557
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Speaker 7: time of this open receiver?

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Speaker 9: Well, yeah, I mean I definitely would. I like to

559
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Speaker 9: think I would not point out like, oh, look at

560
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Speaker 9: this guy on the other side of the field that's open, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, insulted him a little bit better.

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Speaker 3: I know, but I just wanted to explain it. So, yeah,

563
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Speaker 3: we make sure that he's not doing that.

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Speaker 9: So a couple I'll just give like a couple of examples.

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Speaker 9: So there was a red zone sack for example, that

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Speaker 9: they had in the second half that they ended up

567
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Speaker 9: having to kick a field goal that got into third

568
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Speaker 9: and goal from like the thirteen after the sack, and

569
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Speaker 9: they ended up kicking the field goal. So on the

570
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Speaker 9: left hand side, they are running a little bunch spot

571
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Speaker 9: concept over on the left hand side, and the Falcons

572
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Speaker 9: have it box, so they have four defenders over three

573
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Speaker 9: Patriots receivers. But on Drake's right it's two on two.

574
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Speaker 9: It's man to man to the backside with digs and

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Speaker 9: Digs is wide open on he's wide open. And just

576
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Speaker 9: from a quarterback read standpoint, which side would you rather

577
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Speaker 9: work the four on three side or the two on

578
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Speaker 9: two side. So like just from a numbers like standpoint,

579
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Speaker 9: Like you're taught to read the side that has the

580
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Speaker 9: numbers advantage in favor of the offense. So on that

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Speaker 9: one too.

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Speaker 1: On top of it, you know, so where were his eyes?

583
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Speaker 9: He started left, but he should have started right.

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Speaker 3: Okay, he would have had we saw we were watching

585
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Speaker 3: the game.

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Speaker 1: Both Evan and I relate like on.

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Speaker 9: That one too, just to like further the point, Diggs

588
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Speaker 9: gets matched up with Jesse Bates, who's a safety in this.

589
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Speaker 9: So on top of the fact that you're talking about

590
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Speaker 9: numbers on you know, just from a read, you're also

591
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Speaker 9: talking about matchups like when you have your best receiver

592
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Speaker 9: against the safety, that should be automatic, like this is

593
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Speaker 9: where I'm going with the football. So there's that one

594
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Speaker 9: is is one example. The other example, he actually came

595
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Speaker 9: back to the same concept and hit Diggs on the

596
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Speaker 9: second read on his touchdown. But earlier on in the game,

597
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Speaker 9: he stared down the initial read on the right hand side.

598
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Speaker 9: It was covered and Digs is over the ball and

599
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Speaker 9: he's just wide open sitting over the ball, and Drake

600
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Speaker 9: just kind of got hung up on the initial read.

601
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Speaker 9: So he's going, you know, that's just literally going one

602
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 9: to two, like we're not asking him to go one, two, three, four, five,

603
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Speaker 9: you're just going one to two.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 9: To his credit, later on in the game, he did

606
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Speaker 9: the exact same thing and hit digs and digs made

607
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Speaker 9: the guy miss and scored.

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Speaker 5: So he did improve.

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Speaker 9: Like they probably went back to the sideline, looked at

610
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Speaker 9: the stills and said, hey, if we get this again,

611
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Speaker 9: you know, if it's not open like digs is been

612
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Speaker 9: open over the middle of the field in general.

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Speaker 7: Like, So the first example was a pre snap read

614
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Speaker 7: making a decision. Okay, maybe it called for me to

615
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 7: look at this bunch, but I see this. This is

616
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Speaker 7: now going to be my number one. On other plays

617
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Speaker 7: where he is required to survey the field, how is

618
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Speaker 7: he doing seeing the field?

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Speaker 9: I think he's doing a lot of one in runs,

620
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Speaker 9: which is what worries me. Like he's dropping back, he's

621
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Speaker 9: looking at his initial read. If the initial read isn't there,

622
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Speaker 9: he takes off. And that's been really going back to

623
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 9: the Tennessee game now that he's been doing that. So

624
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 9: what happens a lot to him is that he takes off.

625
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 9: And this is the NFL, so those gaps close quickly

626
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Speaker 9: on the line of scrimmage when he tries to run

627
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Speaker 9: through the middle of the line, so he's trying to

628
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Speaker 9: get out of the pocket, and then it closes in

629
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Speaker 9: on him and it's it's like a two yard sack,

630
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Speaker 9: but it's still a sack. You know. There was another

631
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Speaker 9: one that you know in this game that really was

632
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Speaker 9: troubling to me that he had, Austin Hooper. They ran

633
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Speaker 9: a seven step drop from under center, which is becoming

634
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Speaker 9: a lot more popular now, going all the way back

635
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 9: right to you know, everything is old as new, And

636
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Speaker 9: they ran a seven step drop from under center, and

637
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Speaker 9: Austin Hooper is just crossing over the middle of the

638
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 9: field and he is wide open, and Drake May just

639
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 9: doesn't throw it. He just doesn't throw it, and then

640
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 9: he runs up into the pocket and gets sacked.

641
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Speaker 7: Why do you think he didn't throw it? Only he

642
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 7: can sem I mean he's right oh, right over his eyes.

643
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Speaker 7: I don't you know, I don't know, you know, what.

644
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: Do you mean?

645
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Speaker 9: It's right over the middle of the field, Like his

646
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 9: eyes are right on it. I don't know how I

647
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 9: can't know that. Yeah, you can see it, like you

648
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 9: can see where he's looking.

649
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: Okay, that's what I'm asking.

650
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Speaker 9: Yeah, And like it's it's a levels concept. Right over

651
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 9: the middle of the field. You have the short and

652
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 9: then you have the deeper one, and that's the dish

653
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 9: right you know, in the middle of the field. Uh,

654
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Speaker 9: And that you know seven step drop under center, like

655
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Speaker 9: you're not looking to hang out back there, like that's

656
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Speaker 9: supposed to be designed to get the ball out of

657
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Speaker 9: the quarterback's hands when he hits the top of the drop.

658
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Speaker 9: So it's just these are instances that keep happening with

659
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Speaker 9: him on tape. Only he can answer to why exactly

660
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 9: he's not making these throws, Like, I can't sit here

661
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 9: and tell you why these things are happening. But to

662
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 9: his credit, on six of the sacks, they ended up

663
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 9: getting first down after four of them because he's getting

664
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 9: them into third and long by taking sacks and then

665
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 9: he's getting them out.

666
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 5: And another part of that is what you mentioned briefly

667
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 5: is that he you know, I don't know what the

668
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 5: number is, but a good number of his sacks come

669
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 5: when he's climbing the pocket and can't get through, so

670
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 5: it's like a two yard sack, right. Yeah, I don't

671
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 5: think the the you know, the strip sack. Notwithstanding, that

672
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 5: was a big loss. Even if he had held onto

673
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 5: the ball, that would have been a ten plus yard loss.

674
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 5: But a lot of times it's around the line of

675
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 5: scrimmage where he gets sacked. So you're not like disaster.

676
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just taking so many hits.

677
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's hard. It's like, is this sustainable?

678
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 4: I don't worry about to deliver.

679
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 9: The ball to me? Like that's that there's a difference

680
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 9: between like one and run quarterbacks and then like guys

681
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 9: that really play quarterback and are sitting in the pocket

682
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 9: and are progressing through reads and finding the open man

683
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 9: and all that different kind of stuff. And he does that.

684
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 9: Like I'm not saying it's never happens, you know, I

685
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 9: just think that as we sort of get deeper into

686
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 9: the season, you know, he has the third highest sack

687
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 9: rate in the league right now among quarterbacks. He's taking

688
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 9: the second most tax in total, and cam Ward is won.

689
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 9: So that's a rookie that's ahead of him on a

690
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 9: bad team. That's one, he's two. So when you get

691
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 9: deeper into the season, we get into January and they

692
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 9: have a home playoff game against Kansas City and they're

693
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 9: in third and twelve. The entire game. That's a tough

694
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 9: way to live. Yeah, like you just you're you're not

695
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 9: going to be able to do that against better teams.

696
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 4: I'd be interested Evan your opinion, because Paul and I

697
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 4: on the postgame show we talked a lot about this

698
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 4: was what shaky Drake looked like this summer, and you know,

699
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 4: on the show, I said he wasn't MVP Drake May

700
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 4: this summer, like it was a little bit more uncertain

701
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 4: up and down. I talked about Minnesota too, but you

702
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 4: know that we talked about the pump, you know, and

703
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 4: you can just wrote about it and after further review too,

704
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 4: like that's when you know he's just not seeing it.

705
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 4: So the lack of conviction, yeah, yeah, some of those

706
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 4: not trusting it, not trusting.

707
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 9: It well, even the interception, like he pumps, he does

708
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 9: like that little double clutch that drives everybody nuts. And

709
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 9: I think the reason was is that he was throwing

710
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 9: to like a space in the middle of the field.

711
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 9: But Hunter Henry was actually correctly running the route, and

712
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 9: so he hesitated because I don't think he really fully

713
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 9: was one hundred percent sure Hunter Henry was going to

714
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 9: see it the same way, so he kind of like

715
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 9: does like a little little uh you know, hitch in

716
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 9: his throat, like where it's like yeah right, and like

717
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 9: that was all second half from the stripsack on just

718
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 9: and so that hesitation that.

719
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: Like my next point is is this, you know where

720
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 4: we seeing a turning point there we all, I mean

721
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: you said it turnover, happens, strip sack, big play, and

722
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 4: now he kind of loses it.

723
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 7: Well so far when we've seen things like that in games,

724
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 7: the next game he's kind of corrected it.

725
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah you know.

726
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 5: So yeah, so I'm sometimes like I go back to

727
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 5: what Evan said about the Tennessee game. That was the

728
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 5: game he started running around, and I've seen that for

729
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 5: like three weeks.

730
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: I don't want him to stop running.

731
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 5: Don't confuse running with mine around. It's it's it's kind

732
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 5: of like you know the whole you know, Yeah, he starts,

733
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 5: but he's not necessarily a starter, you know, like you

734
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 5: can run with a purpose, or you can just run

735
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 5: around into sacks.

736
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 6: I know, the drift into pressure.

737
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 7: I know that the PFF grades probably will argue with me,

738
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 7: but I do see that pressure is coming, that the

739
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 7: sack is getting.

740
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 5: Small sunts I think are bothering them yeah, they do.

741
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 11: They have.

742
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 9: You know, I would say, you know, I said five

743
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 9: of the sixty shares, and the blame in like part

744
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 9: of that is like you can't get strip sacked, right,

745
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 9: But the sack was not his fault. Like the sack

746
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 9: was good coverage down the field on one who gets

747
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 9: beat on the stunt, there's no place for him to go.

748
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 9: So the only like negative there for Drake may was

749
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 9: just fumbled, right, So that's not on him. But like

750
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 9: I just think you're on a slippery slope when you

751
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 9: start one and run, Like when you start it's if

752
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 9: it's not there, I'm breaking the play down where there's

753
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 9: open receivers if you just progress past the first read,

754
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 9: not just from a physical standpoint of taking hits, but

755
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 9: also just putting the offense into behind the sticks types

756
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 9: of situations where you're trying to always get back on schedule.

757
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 7: I got the sense in this game that in the

758
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 7: first half, like Drake was feeling it, like things were

759
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 7: working out and like it was almost like I'm doing

760
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 7: really good. And then, like you said, Evan, the strip

761
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 7: sack happened and it rattled him. Yeah, it kind of

762
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 7: brought him back down to earth. But think up to

763
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 7: that point in that game, he was kind of smelling himself. Yeah,

764
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 7: so it was like, nay, I'm a little bit invincible.

765
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 11: Here.

766
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 5: He was in the first game, he was nine for thirteen.

767
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 9: And two touchdowns before the strips.

768
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 7: I mean, he was twelve yards in the town and

769
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 7: then and then that happened, and it was like, oh,

770
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 7: it's twenty four.

771
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 3: I can't beat everybody.

772
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 5: If it's twenty four to seven and a half, Like,

773
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 5: you know, I'll be looking at the third straight, right,

774
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 5: you know, walk away win, Yeah, winning, going away.

775
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

776
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 5: He even made I mean that throw to Digs in

777
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 5: the second half, even in the rattles half quote unquote, right,

778
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 5: you know you still see the ability.

779
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, that was a third and twelve unbelievable throw.

780
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 7: And that seems to be the theme coming out of

781
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 7: it is they had this bad second half, but yet

782
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 7: they were still able to do just enough to hold

783
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 7: on to the win. And and that last drive, Rabel

784
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 7: had the confidence to say, just go win the game,

785
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 7: and he did make the pass and they got the

786
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 7: first down and it's it's ballgame.

787
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: So you know, people aren't freaking.

788
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 5: Out, but I'm glad that they did that. Because that's

789
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 5: what teams should do. And I'm glad that they didn't

790
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 5: get spooked because it wasn't going great for the quarterback.

791
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 5: You have to still do the right thing right, And

792
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, and I know that people think this is

793
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 5: a controversial thing.

794
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 6: I think the right thing to do.

795
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 5: When you have the lead in the ball at the

796
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 5: end of the game, your goal should be to not

797
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 5: give the ball back to the defense right, not to

798
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 5: run it into the middle of the line and run clock.

799
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 5: Your goal should be to get first downs yeap, And

800
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 5: the best way to get first downs in that league,

801
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 5: and that situation is to throw the ball. You can

802
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 5: throw it safely, like if it they did there, Like

803
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 5: let's just say for arguments sake, number forty gets over

804
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 5: and gets up and jumps the route on Hunter Henry

805
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 5: and he can't throw it. Well, Drake's not just going

806
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 5: to throw it away to stop the clock. He's going

807
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 5: to run right, and he probably isn't going to get

808
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 5: the first down, but the clock's going to run. You

809
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 5: have to punt, and even in the end, but that's

810
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 5: a hard play for number forty.

811
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 7: Even that last drive for the Patriots in the first half,

812
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 7: I heard a lot of people just just you know,

813
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 7: run it and you know and the clock.

814
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: No, you were a good team.

815
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: Try to get three the first half, yeah, the first half.

816
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 5: Didn't love the way they handled the end of the

817
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 5: first half.

818
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was.

819
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: I was fine with it. Go for points.

820
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 5: They didn't. That's what I wanted to do. Oh, I

821
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 5: wanted to get into a two minute drill. You know

822
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 5: why they got into a two minute drill because Raheem

823
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 5: Morris called back to back timeouts. I thought they were

824
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 5: going to run the clock out. They were throwing the ball,

825
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 5: no drake like one of Evans things kind of just

826
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 5: quickly ran to the sideline, slid in bounds to keep

827
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 5: the clock running. They would contend to run the clock out,

828
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 5: and Morris called back.

829
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: To that time that was an option, but I think

830
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 3: they were they wanted.

831
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 5: They were very conservative on that drive until the two timeouts.

832
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 5: Then they converted the third down. Yeah, and then they

833
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 5: tried to get points.

834
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

835
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 6: I didn't like that.

836
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, and they tried to stop, but it's not

837
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: like they weren't. Their intention was to try to double dip.

838
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 5: Their intention was to run the clock out. Raheem Morris

839
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 5: called two timeouts to say, all right, well, we got

840
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 5: to try to get a first down on third down,

841
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 5: here we go. I don't didn't want to give the

842
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 5: ball back to.

843
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: Morris, Yeah, no, I don't. I don't know.

844
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 5: I think that they were very conservative on the first

845
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 5: two plays.

846
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 7: Maybe it's conservative play calling, but not to the point

847
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 7: where they their intention wasn't to score.

848
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: I think it was to get in feel positioned to.

849
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 5: Put I don't know why you wouldn't run out of

850
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 5: bounds then on that run.

851
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 7: Were trying to keep the running. But sometimes you want

852
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 7: to do it both ways. You want to score points

853
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 7: and not leave them time.

854
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 9: I hear what you're saying. I think that, especially the

855
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 9: first down run is usually a dead like Josh McDaniels,

856
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 9: we're going to try to get some cheap yards here,

857
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 9: We're going to run some clock. Yeah, that that's that's

858
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 9: a classic one of his that he normally does in

859
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 9: those situations. But I I just I'm glad you mentioned

860
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 9: the throat of digs in the second half, because it

861
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 9: wasn't all bad. I mean, that throws insane. That was

862
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 9: like that, and the fact that he ripped it tells

863
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 9: you that it wasn't like totally in his head at

864
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 9: that point that he you know, wasn't really totally completely unraveling.

865
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 3: He was throwing into a spot.

866
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that's just to hit that window is insane.

867
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 4: I just say that anyone's listening and getting triggered that

868
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 4: we're talking negatively about Drake.

869
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: He didn't go on the bad list. He didn't go

870
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: on the good list. We didn't.

871
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 6: To go on the bad list.

872
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's funny because you know, this is my lowest

873
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 9: graded game for him since the opener, but he's still

874
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 9: basically was a winning quarterback, like you know, and so

875
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 9: like his bar has just been set so high. You know,

876
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 9: his QBR was fifty point five, so like he was

877
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 9: right in that middle, right, So it wasn't like there

878
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 9: was no place in this game. I mean the touchdown

879
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 9: throated pop Douglas is you could watch that ten times.

880
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 7: To think that he wasn't going to have a game

881
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 7: like this or maybe more than one, you know, during

882
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 7: the stretch, is unreasonable. I mean, he's he's still a

883
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 7: very young quarterback who was just really having played a

884
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 7: full set of games for a season.

885
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: What is this like is twenty second game?

886
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: I think it was twenty second you know, I have

887
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: a question for Evan. I love when that happens.

888
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 4: Do you feel like teams are adjusting to him and

889
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 4: teams are starting to get a beat on what he's

890
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 4: doing and starting to adjust now as he gets more

891
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 4: of a sample size, And is that is it not

892
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 4: just Drake kind of reverting to some of his old ways.

893
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 4: Is it somewhat the defenses and opponents are realizing.

894
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 3: Well, that's the other thing. I think that's a good point.

895
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 3: You have to give some credit to other teams.

896
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

897
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 9: I was going to actually go there, Fred, because this

898
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 9: Falcons defense number one pass defense in football coming into

899
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 9: this game, right, you know they Drake had the most

900
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 9: passing yards of any quarterback against this defense all season

901
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 9: and that includes Josh Allen to.

902
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 5: Lit him up last week though. Yeah, I had only

903
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 5: think you had two hundred yards and four touchdowns.

904
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, something like that.

905
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 9: So, you know, they very good pass defense, very good scheme.

906
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 9: You know, they they really shut down pretty much everybody

907
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 9: that they've faced all year long, and they won some rounds, like,

908
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 9: they won some rounds. And you know, one of the

909
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 9: things that they start to do after Pop's fifty eight

910
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 9: yard crosser is they started cutting the crossing routes in

911
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 9: the middle of the field. So instead of trying to

912
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 9: run with him in man to man, they started putting

913
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 9: a safety right on the crosser and if it was

914
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 9: a crosser, the corner would fall off pop and pass

915
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 9: it to the safety. So they did that a handful

916
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 9: of times as the game wore on. They did it

917
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 9: on the strip sack and they did it on the pick.

918
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 9: So both instances were crossing routes where they thought they

919
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 9: were going to get post safety or man to man

920
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 9: coverage with the safety up top, and in both instances

921
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 9: they cut the crossing route in the middle of the

922
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 9: field and it caused issues for the Patriots. So the

923
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 9: Falcons adjusted within this game. I don't know if I'm

924
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 9: starting to see week to week like big picture adjustments

925
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 9: like Deuce was kind of talking about. But Atlanta, there's

926
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 9: a lot of credit defensively in this game. The Patriots

927
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 9: had them on the ropes for like a quarter and

928
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 9: you know, really almost two full quarters until the strip sack,

929
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 9: and then they made some adjustments and they were able

930
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 9: to kind of get a beat on what the Patriots

931
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 9: were doing.

932
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 5: You draft knicks, Mike and Evan, can you tell me

933
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 5: about Billy Bowman.

934
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 9: So he's a nickel nickel safety, a good player, scrappy.

935
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 5: Because clearly they've missed him. Yeah, because the Falcons have

936
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 5: these gaudy numbers. He missed the last two games and

937
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 5: they haven't been anywhere near as good as they were.

938
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 5: So I'm not saying it's one, you know, down to

939
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 5: one guy. I know Zach Harrison been being out as

940
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 5: probably the best front seven player, and he's been out

941
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 5: the last couple of games too, But this, I'm just

942
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 5: in terms of the secondary. I wonder if maybe they're

943
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 5: scrambling and it's taken them a little while to so

944
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 5: they you know.

945
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 9: To that point. They picked on Mike Cues a little bit,

946
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 9: but they really picked on d Alford, who is Billy

947
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 9: Bowman's replacement in the slot.

948
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 5: Alford was the guy I noticed a lot. Yeah, he

949
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 5: made a good play early, but I thought he got

950
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 5: really badly beaten on that play initially and the throw

951
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 5: was a little late. Then they went back to those deep,

952
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 5: deep shots that you know, I guess they were over deep,

953
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 5: over what would you call the route. So I don't

954
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 5: want the AT and T crowd.

955
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 9: You know, each of them are kind of a little

956
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 9: bit different. But they have like three different iterations of

957
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 9: that route. So one of them they just call a

958
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 9: bee line, which is literally just run a straight line

959
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 9: across the field.

960
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 6: That was working because Pop was opened three times on you.

961
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, the one that you're talking about, the throwback is

962
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 9: like a corner post, right, so he's going to nod

963
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 9: to the corner and then break on the post. It's

964
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 9: the same route that he ran in New Orleans on

965
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 9: his touchdown and he got it. They they got the

966
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 9: safety on it again. Uh, but because Drake was rolling,

967
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 9: it just like took a little bit longer for it

968
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 9: to hit. And then they also have like different iterations

969
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 9: of crossers where you're talking you know, shallow over, deep over,

970
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 9: So like it depends on the exact concept of that

971
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 9: they're running. But they like the bee line a lot

972
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 9: with Pop because he's so fast. Just just run, like,

973
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 9: don't don't try to like sell anything. Yeah, just stay up.

974
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 9: Yeah that part drunken sale are all right?

975
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 7: Eight five five past five hundred is the Hotline podcast

976
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 7: at Patriots dot com as the email address.

977
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: Let's see what people have to say on this Tuesday.

978
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: It's Nate in Connecticut, what's up, Nate?

979
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 13: Hey guys, can you guys do we will?

980
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: Yep?

981
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: Yeah?

982
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 13: Uh So my question for you guys today is, you know,

983
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 13: next week we're headed to Tampa, I believe, and we're

984
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 13: gonna have a pretty good game. I think, two pretty

985
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 13: good teams. And my question for you guys is what

986
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 13: do you think the biggest weakness going into the Tampa

987
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 13: Bay game is? You know, obviously Kaishawan Boody wasn't in

988
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 13: the majority for the Falcons game, and sure that played

989
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 13: a big role. And you know our secondary I think

990
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 13: was a little lessy and that's Ira Elliott Wolf. I

991
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 13: think I'd probably make a move here at the deadline

992
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 13: to get a defense player. On a side note, there's

993
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 13: been some controversy or news about what people are calling

994
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 13: class gate, where yeah, I know, I think it's total bs.

995
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 7: Well, Raheem Morris has come out now and said he

996
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 7: was going off with what his players told him, right, Yeah,

997
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 7: so that was on him.

998
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 6: He was angry and he's listening to.

999
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 9: The We have major NFL breaking news.

1000
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 3: Oh okay, well, thanks Dave. We'll answer your question in

1001
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 3: a second.

1002
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 9: The New York Jets have traded Sauce Gardener to the

1003
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 9: Indianapolis Colts.

1004
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 3: Now that's big blockbuster.

1005
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 9: That is big sauce gardener to the Colts.

1006
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 3: That's huge.

1007
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 6: Let me let me just add So that's kind of

1008
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 6: what I'm talking about. That's the opinion. So the Colts

1009
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 6: are obviously looking at this and saying we have a shot.

1010
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's clearly was their biggest need they've been looking

1011
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 5: for corners.

1012
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 12: Is that.

1013
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that that specific move. I'm not saying

1014
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 5: the patriot should have been looking for sauce gardener. The

1015
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 5: Patriots have Christian Gonzales right that they're going to have

1016
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 5: to pay like sauce gardener next year. Right, I'm not

1017
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,479
Speaker 5: suggesting this individual thing, but that's the kind of move

1018
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 5: that I'm saying, is we recognize we have an opportunity here.

1019
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 5: I don't know where they think they are in the

1020
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 5: rebuilding plan.

1021
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 9: I don't feel like they even have their quarterback in

1022
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 9: the future. Like, are you totally sold Daniel Jones?

1023
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 5: Is inn preach?

1024
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 11: Right?

1025
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 5: Just this is what I'm saying, Like, you never know

1026
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 5: when the year that you can make a run is

1027
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 5: going to happen, right, So, like, is this a dumb

1028
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 5: trade for them?

1029
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 6: What did they trade.

1030
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 9: I'm refreshing. We don't know what they traded yet, so

1031
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 9: they year. Yeah, so that's the difference, right is Sauce

1032
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 9: is under contract for the long term, so this is

1033
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 9: not rental. This is they are going to have Sauce

1034
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 9: garden that division four years. I think it is.

1035
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 6: And I would say, now, you're Jets.

1036
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: Fan, was really the season. But by the way, it's.

1037
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 6: Really good, really good news for the Patriots.

1038
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 5: In seriousness, they have to play the playing them in tenas,

1039
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 5: so you take obviously a very good player always works

1040
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 5: out for the Patriot. The Jets are in sneaky fire

1041
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 5: sale mode too. You know, we've heard a lot about

1042
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 5: Breest Hall. I saw something today that they would take

1043
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 5: a second round pick or you know, probably won't get

1044
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 5: it for Jermaine Johnson. That's another guy. Now again I'm

1045
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 5: not talking specific to the Patriots. I'm just saying with

1046
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 5: the there's two teams in the division right that look

1047
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 5: like they're ready and willing to trade everyone in Miami

1048
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 5: and it's crazy.

1049
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 9: So the trade, maybe chefter has it two first round picks.

1050
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 6: Two first round picks is a lot.

1051
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, is a lot. Now, I'm not telling you it's

1052
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 5: a bad move. But what I hate is this move

1053
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 5: will be evaluated based on when and how the cults

1054
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 5: are eliminated, and that's not how it should be a value.

1055
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 9: It shouldn't be well, not because he's under contract, right Like, no, no,

1056
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 9: no again, I know it.

1057
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 5: Don't take They have a pretty open mind.

1058
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 3: When it comes.

1059
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 9: I'm not taking it personally. I'm just saying, like this

1060
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 9: is this may move makes sense for the Colts because

1061
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 9: he's going to be a Colt, you.

1062
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 5: Know, like they're traded well, I mean obviously they wouldn't

1063
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 5: give two first round picks, so you know, I.

1064
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 9: Think he fits great in that scheme that they're running

1065
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 9: with big corners. But he has in my mind been

1066
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 9: like to any little bit overrated with the Jets.

1067
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 3: He hasn't played well as well this year.

1068
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 5: He played No, he's played well this year. He didn't

1069
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 5: have a great year last year, and supposedly the reason

1070
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 5: was he was trying to protect himself all year.

1071
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: I just I like it for the Colts. I mean,

1072
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of glaring holes.

1073
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 4: And I mean the question to me really boils down

1074
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 4: to so you're saying, Daniel Jones is our guy, We're

1075
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 4: not going to have to worry about not only.

1076
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: Drafting a new quarterback.

1077
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 5: In the quarterback which won those first round pick, you

1078
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 5: might be like, maybe not this year, but maybe if

1079
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 5: you're stung like you're not getting in the first round,

1080
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 5: you're going to be picking somewhere between twenty and thirty two.

1081
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 5: But eighteen and thirty two you're going to be in

1082
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 5: the playoffs. Yep, so you're one of the bottom fourteen picks. Yeah,

1083
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 5: you're not getting a quarterback.

1084
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: Good receivers, young receiving corps, you know, all under the contract,

1085
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: good offensive like, good defensive line.

1086
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 9: Not that you know, the Patriots were probably going to

1087
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 9: be heavily favored in both games against the Jets anyways.

1088
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 9: But I was actually just watching Jets Bengals because from

1089
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 9: a couple of weeks ago, and uh like justin feels

1090
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 9: like Lamar Jackson against that Bengals defense, and like, you know,

1091
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 9: they're they're one and seven, but this is really giving up, right,

1092
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 9: Like this is really waving a white flag. So I

1093
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 9: just really wonder, you know, I already kind of choked

1094
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 9: those up to two wins anyways against the Jets, but like,

1095
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 9: how much are you really winning those games now? Because

1096
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 9: if you're telling the whole organization that you're waving the

1097
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 9: white flag by trading Sauce, Like that's like the Patriots

1098
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 9: trading Gonzales, right, and you know, kind of sending that

1099
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 9: message like last year, like.

1100
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: The fans feel for the Jets, I'd be sick. I mean,

1101
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 1: this is a super talented guy's.

1102
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 3: Going to give up again again. I emphasize they're going

1103
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 3: to completely fraud just start over again.

1104
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the signal to me.

1105
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 6: I just kind of like the trade for the Colts.

1106
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, me too.

1107
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 3: But I just wonder, like, if you're a Colts fan,

1108
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 3: you're ready to go.

1109
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 9: If you're Wilson, what are you thinking now, Like if

1110
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 9: you're Garrett Wilson, Because they both signed their extensions at

1111
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 9: the same time, same draft class. They both signed their

1112
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 9: extensions and locked in free Garrett Wilson, and now they

1113
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 9: are one in seven.

1114
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 3: I'll take him.

1115
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 7: I mean.

1116
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 6: Who first round picks? No, okay, but you wouldn't take

1117
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 6: him there.

1118
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 5: I'm gonna guess he's gonna go for the same kind

1119
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 5: of compensation if they traded him.

1120
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 9: Oh we got no one more other trade not as

1121
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 9: big as there is the Sauce Gardner trade. But Rashijaki

1122
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 9: to the Seahawks.

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00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 6: That's a guy who some people kicked around for the Patriots.

1124
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 9: Yeah, so Saints wide receiver, big time speed, big time

1125
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 9: deep threat, like kind of like a bigger Pop Douglas.

1126
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Speaker 1: I like that one too.

1127
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was just telling him I just watched

1128
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 4: that Seahawks Bucks game, which was crazy. JSN this that

1129
00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 4: kid is playing out of his mind right now. So

1130
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 4: now you get some speed on the outside with Shahid,

1131
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 4: maybe help him out a little.

1132
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 3: Bit and going for you know, the Seahawks are another team.

1133
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: They are like they're making a run.

1134
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: They are.

1135
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, Donald's on the.

1136
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: Top of their division. Donald probably gonna be the MVP.

1137
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 9: If he had ended today, probably would be the end.

1138
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1139
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 9: Just the numbers he's putting up are absolutely.

1140
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 7: It's almost a similar situation the Cults where they bring

1141
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 7: in another guy. They really have the quarterback another team

1142
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 7: and he's playing really, really well.

1143
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 9: So the Vikings had Sam Donald Daniel Jones both on

1144
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 9: their team and ended up with JJ McCarthy.

1145
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 7: So that's interesting enough. Christians in LA, what's up, Christian

1146
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 7: christ Jan Hey.

1147
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: You guys, happy, Happy to see you guys, and I

1148
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: hope everyone out there and Patriots Land goes out and

1149
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: vote like a real Patriot, because it's important to make

1150
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 2: your voice hurt. Okay, so about the last game, I

1151
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,479
Speaker 2: just want to talk about the end of the game first,

1152
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 2: and stay that decision by Rable to throw the ball

1153
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: typify something that I've always said a million times. Good

1154
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 2: teams throw the ball and execute. Bad teams run the ball.

1155
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: And hope that's something that I made up that I

1156
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: always say, Yes.

1157
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 3: You, I remember I read that that you made that.

1158
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 6: In fact, I took it from you.

1159
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1160
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think Bill quoted you in his book.

1161
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 6: Well done, Christian, I got it.

1162
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: But seriously, and on the football, I think I think

1163
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: as far as the team trading goes, I'm actually with

1164
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: Paul in the sense of saying, if not now when

1165
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: we are, in my estimation a season ahead of schedule

1166
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: as far as our progression of Drake and the way

1167
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 2: the team is playing and the amount of ways that

1168
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: we've already got So with being a season ahead, let's

1169
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: treat it as if we are. And next season, if

1170
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: we were in this position with everything to be gathered,

1171
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 2: we'll we go for it. A little more. I say

1172
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: the answer is yes, and then I say, if we're

1173
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: going to do that, and here's my question to you guys.

1174
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: To me, the easiest position to bring on board mid

1175
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 2: season is an elite pass rusher like hands of the

1176
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: dirt edge guy that's just pass rushing. Secondly would be

1177
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: a rangy or good linebacker. The reason why I say

1178
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: that pass rusher is his platebook. Getn't that that that deep?

1179
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: I don't believe. I think it's just go get the quarterback.

1180
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: Certain schemes drop out, but for the most part, his

1181
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 2: job is just go get the quarterback. So let's make

1182
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: a run. Let's make a splash. Let's get a splashy

1183
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: edge guy to rush and a rangy linebacker, and I

1184
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: think we are actually there.

1185
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 3: Okay, up the air, guys, have it all right, thanks Christian.

1186
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 9: I agree with him pass rush is the easiest thing

1187
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 9: to translate. It would certainly be at the top of

1188
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 9: the yeah because running back at least, but I say

1189
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 9: linebacker might be one of the hardest.

1190
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 5: Yeah. I don't agree with him on the rangy linebacker,

1191
00:53:54,960 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 5: not only the lack of availability of those as say,

1192
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 5: everything pretty uh pretty impactful trades. Absolutely, I mean I

1193
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 5: think that. I mean that it's not going to get

1194
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 5: the the attention of Sauce Garden, but Rashid heat for Seattle.

1195
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 7: Is these are two teams that just traded away a

1196
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 7: great compliment and good players on their team.

1197
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 5: Maybe take away and you know, take away some of

1198
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 5: the burden off of J. S N who's done every.

1199
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Speaker 4: He's for that that passing attack I pointed out just

1200
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 4: to highlight. I mean, haven't said it when J s

1201
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 4: M was coming out and I asked that, didn't you

1202
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 4: say this? It was like the Brian hartline said at

1203
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 4: the time that he's the best of all those high

1204
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 4: receiver receivers.

1205
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: So he looks like it.

1206
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 3: Brian and Lowell.

1207
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, Brian, Hey, what's up guys? Brian?

1208
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: What's going on today? Do you have a good game?

1209
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, I was just gonna say, way wait, think

1210
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 14: about that win?

1211
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 11: Nah?

1212
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 14: Oh my god, yeah, that's great.

1213
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: One point. That's it on land Romo got cut today.

1214
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 3: Did he?

1215
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1216
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 9: Lanta the kick I missed the actor point.

1217
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was something. How where were you when that happened?

1218
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 11: Oh?

1219
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 15: I was at home as usual and watching it.

1220
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 7: A lot of people coming in and out again. Yeah, yeah,

1221
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 7: what did you do when Romo hit missed that kick?

1222
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 7: Did you jump out of your seat?

1223
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, god yeah. I was like, oh, we at

1224
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: least that was.

1225
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's great.

1226
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 15: Well you heard you just had about Clopgate, this clock gate.

1227
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 3: Yeah you heard about I heard about it.

1228
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we talked about Clopgate.

1229
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 16: I mean, you know, you know, the.

1230
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 3: Patriots are back when you're getting a cheating. But thanks

1231
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 3: for the call, Brian, appreciate it.

1232
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 9: I just, you know, as a ball no er, I

1233
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 9: just think like I would just like to man's playing

1234
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 9: silent count for a second and just kind of explain

1235
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 9: what happened. So if if you watch the play, well

1236
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 9: let's start from the beginning. When you watch the play,

1237
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 9: the Falcons motion or receiver from the left to the

1238
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 9: right side of the formation to create a three by one.

1239
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 9: So Jalen Hawkins is in the back. They go three

1240
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 9: by one, and he's trying to get Carlton Davis's attention

1241
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 9: to change the coverage because of the different formation. So

1242
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 9: he does go like this to Carlton Davis to try

1243
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 9: to get his attention. So what happens when you're on

1244
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 9: the road and you have silent count is a lot

1245
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 9: of teams will have the guard, whether it's a left

1246
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 9: or the right guard. This case it was the right guard.

1247
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 9: He will look back to the quarterback. The quarterback will

1248
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 9: have some sort of non verbal signal like a leg

1249
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 9: kick or maybe some guys go like this when he

1250
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 9: wants to snap, so snap. It's the right guard's job

1251
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 9: in this case to tap the center when it's time

1252
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 9: to snap the ball. And then the center is looking

1253
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 9: forward the entire time tap, so you're supposed to just

1254
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 9: give him a little tap then he snaps the football.

1255
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 9: Ends up happening is the Falcons are claiming that they

1256
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 9: heard from fifteen yards away they heard Jalen Hawkins clapping,

1257
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 9: and so the center thought, we must be getting down

1258
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 9: on the playclock. I'm just gonna snap the football. The

1259
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 9: rest of the offensive line, not the right guard, but

1260
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 9: the other three spots. They're watching the ball. So when

1261
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 9: the ball moves, they move, which is why only the

1262
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 9: right guard stays in his stands.

1263
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 5: So something coach, I don't know what hate advantage of

1264
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 5: bad foot pay.

1265
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 9: To his credit, Milton Williams rushed, yeah, and so he

1266
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,479
Speaker 9: went and he gets in the backfield immediately. But that's

1267
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,959
Speaker 9: why four fifths of the offensive line moved and only

1268
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 9: the right guard was standing still. So the question is,

1269
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 9: is you know when you talk about and this is

1270
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 9: what I think Rabel is talking about, and he kind

1271
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 9: of did a bad job of explaining himself yesterday. When

1272
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 9: you talk about like simulating a snap count, usually that's

1273
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 9: somebody up front that's clapping or yeah, exactly. So I

1274
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 9: just blame it on a safety is like a huge leap, right,

1275
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 9: But that was even before.

1276
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 4: Came on yesterday and said the thing he said, like

1277
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 4: this kind of smells to me like the guy coming

1278
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 4: off the field being.

1279
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 3: Like a snap that would you do totally, totally would

1280
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 3: have reached out to me.

1281
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 5: You guys know me, I would just just to tweak Fred.

1282
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 5: I would jump in even if I didn't believe it.

1283
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 5: I would jump in just but I mean, Evan explained

1284
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 5: how far away I.

1285
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 3: Like it, and I because it's a sign that we're back,

1286
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 3: that we're being accused.

1287
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,919
Speaker 5: Of the only the only we're back, the only thing

1288
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 5: in fairness, I do want to say, the one thing

1289
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 5: I didn't like was kind of what Evan alluded to, Like, Mike,

1290
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 5: you watch the play, you did see a guy clapping.

1291
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 5: You claims like I've watched it several times. I don't

1292
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 5: see what they're talking Like there was a guy clapping.

1293
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 5: I think the way Evan explained it is exactly why

1294
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 5: Jalen Hawkins was clapping.

1295
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: Right.

1296
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 5: He's looking right at Carlton Davis. I think he was

1297
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 5: doing some sort of signal to that all the time.

1298
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,439
Speaker 5: And it happens all the time. And I agree with Evan.

1299
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 5: It's a good ten to fifteen yards away. He's like

1300
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 5: ten or eleven yards behind the ball. Plus he's sort

1301
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 5: of off to the you know, the the offensive right

1302
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 5: of the formation, so he's a good fifteen yards away.

1303
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 5: There's no way that sent.

1304
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 3: He was wearing special gloves that you have.

1305
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 5: To admit they were funny. So I only heard, like

1306
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 5: could you hear Felgert? He goes, some guy calls in.

1307
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 5: He's all butt hurt and he goes, why do you

1308
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 5: think I do it? And he goes and the guy

1309
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 5: couldn't like figure out he because it bothers you.

1310
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 9: I don't hear the whole thing, but he was taught.

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Speaker 9: He thought it was like the college offense, like we're clapping.

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Speaker 9: It wasn't which it wasn't, but I just really quickly.

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Speaker 9: I don't want to like.

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Speaker 5: Because it has to turn into there was shotgun dipsy jew.

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Speaker 9: I don't want to give it away too much of it.

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Speaker 9: But the Patriots do not use their silent count in

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Speaker 9: the same way that Falcons do, and I think that

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Speaker 9: the way they do it is better because there's less

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Speaker 9: of like a chain of communication, so it's still just

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Speaker 9: the center in quarterback communicating. So ideally you wouldn't have

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Speaker 9: that issue because it's gotta go from the quarterback to

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Speaker 9: the guard to the center to you know, and then

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Speaker 9: there's like a whole kind of game of telephone where

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Speaker 9: it's just like waiting for a mistake to happen. So

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Speaker 9: the Patriots do it a little bit different.

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Speaker 11: How you doing. I'm doing well. Are you doing good?

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Speaker 17: What's your what's your biggest takeaway from the review of

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Speaker 11: To watch that, of course.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, obviously. Well for our game, for sure.

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Speaker 16: Uh, obviously, I'm gonna be more critical on the defensive

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Speaker 16: end and pick at us just as a bit much

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Speaker 16: as we can. But I think it's an opportunity that

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Speaker 16: we have some opportunities to take the ball away, and

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Speaker 16: I think we got to see those opportunities a bit

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Speaker 16: more to make games not being so close and challenging.

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Speaker 16: And I just think overall, like some keep speaking for

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Speaker 16: the defensive end. Man, we flew around, We made quite

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Speaker 16: some plays. Those guys are professionals too, They make some

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Speaker 16: plays in their end, and we just got to make

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Speaker 16: more plays in them for sure.

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Speaker 5: Okay for you, that's gonna say, kalong, big game this week,

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Speaker 5: both two good teams.

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Speaker 11: How much do y'all enjoy the opportunity to play games

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Speaker 16: Obviously we get a chance to to fight adversity and

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Speaker 16: see much about ourselves ourselves, Like I said, very talented

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Speaker 16: team aren't regardless of what media aspects may say about

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Speaker 16: them or whatever it is. But I'm super talent on

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Speaker 16: the field man and will coached. So we got an

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Speaker 16: opportunity to fight adversity and see and see where we

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Speaker 16: lies in the great battle of being tested, and we

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Speaker 16: came out on top.

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Speaker 3: You look at them here fall sick or sort.

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Speaker 11: Let's focused on other things too.

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Speaker 5: Saying there we get them on grounding up this week,

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Speaker 5: but pressionally, moving off the spot the potential branding.

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Speaker 11: You lik at that and say it's number.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we like more of them.

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Speaker 11: We're doing a good enough job.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, It's always like a hard balance to try to

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Speaker 16: find between two because you want the numbers and you

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Speaker 16: want the sacks, for sure, But we find ways to

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Speaker 16: affect the quarterback in whichever way we can, Like you said,

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Speaker 16: the tension of groundings. Man, we had a safety last week.

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Speaker 16: You know what I'm saying, just getting the ball out

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Speaker 16: and we're just causing a lot of quick throws and

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Speaker 16: have it up front. You know, whatever it is, get

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Speaker 16: an extra clutch and or call some type of disruption

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Speaker 16: within routes and qv time and so everything matters obviously

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Speaker 16: when it comes to get to the quarterback. But for

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Speaker 16: sure I can tell you that this front is still hungry.

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Speaker 16: We know that we're capable of much more than what

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Speaker 16: we put on film.

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Speaker 12: You said you're more focused on the defensive lines. After

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Speaker 12: watching it takes to like the defensive back specifically. We're

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Speaker 12: really involved in the run game. What does it mean

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Speaker 12: to you as a guy who's in the trench and

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Speaker 12: seeing defensive backs being involved in playing physical against that

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Speaker 12: kind of rushing attack.

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Speaker 16: No, that's super doope. That's super dope, man. Seeing Carlton

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Speaker 16: come in, hit Gonzo come in hit man. So it's

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Speaker 16: not too many times where you can see corners bit

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Speaker 16: as physical as though too, and they come in and

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Speaker 16: they make plays regardless and without any type of hesitation.

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Speaker 16: So pretty dope to keep having everybody all eleven involved

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Speaker 16: in the run game and take pride in that, and

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Speaker 16: we know those and gettest opportunities in the past game

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Speaker 16: for sure, So I credited those guys. We continue to

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Speaker 16: show up, man, and I hope that we'll continue to

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Speaker 16: do that all your long.

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Speaker 12: Did you hear after the game the Facts were talking

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Speaker 12: about on that intentional grounding play?

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Speaker 11: I guess they heard some clapping from your side of

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Speaker 11: the line of SCRIPTA. Did you hear anything like that?

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Speaker 11: Were you guys clapping before the snap there? This is

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Speaker 11: my first time here anybody, so I wasn't aware of that,

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Speaker 11: but I would hope that we would. We don't do that.

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Speaker 11: We play the game fair and we go out and

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Speaker 11: do whatever we can to win.

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Speaker 1: You're the one that's facing a couple of young quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: the last two weeks.

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Speaker 11: They'll go up against this week.

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Speaker 5: And I know you probably haven't died in his cap

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01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 5: of day yet, but when you look at how to.

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Speaker 1: Big Mayfield back and spend play against him with.

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Speaker 11: That, how do you there during the again, off Stu.

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Speaker 16: Man Beggas is a great quarterback. I think we all

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Speaker 16: been kind of watching the mixcel and getting better and

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Speaker 16: better each year and each especially as he's getting comfortable

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Speaker 16: with the system. So it's going to be a thing

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Speaker 16: about obviously getting them off their time and then off

1458
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 16: their rhythm. Man, they're very good at their script and

1459
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Speaker 16: kind of just making sure just methodically getting downfield, and

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Speaker 16: he takes whatever he can get. And when it was

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Speaker 16: exposed to show up, they got some fast guys the

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Speaker 16: receiver and making plays. So it's gonna be one of those, man,

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Speaker 16: everybody kind of haves to just be dialed in and

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Speaker 16: focus into their details. Man, those guys are going to

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01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 16: make plays, but we have to make sure that we

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Speaker 16: make more plays than they make.

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Speaker 11: There's a pretty historic run right now.

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Speaker 5: We're not allowing running back still the fifteen yards. Is

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Speaker 5: that something you're aware of heading in the week and

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Speaker 5: wanting to continue that stream or is it something that.

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Speaker 1: You you don't what you think about.

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Speaker 16: I think it's more of an outside noise than internal.

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Speaker 16: I think we don't really mention it much in the building.

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Speaker 16: We take pride in being a great run defense for sure, though,

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Speaker 16: but we don't really mention much about stats and kind

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01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 16: of like what's the running back average against us?

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Speaker 11: But it's a dope stat to have for sure.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 16: Once again, I was like I was yesterday post game,

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Speaker 16: and I think it's a mentality that we carry within

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Speaker 16: the defense man. Just continue to be stout in the

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Speaker 16: run game, be gap sound, and put ourselves in positions

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Speaker 16: to where we can pin out yours back and get

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Speaker 16: out to the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Do you have a campus to.

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Speaker 11: Campus top?

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Speaker 3: No, No, I did.

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Speaker 11: I had a good chance to.

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Speaker 17: I just wanted to ask you about your season just

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Speaker 17: sort of as a whole your you know, like to start.

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Speaker 11: With the five and a half sacks, which is a

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Speaker 11: career high.

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Speaker 4: Is there something about what's happening with you individually and

1494
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 4: this team this scheme.

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Speaker 11: That is maybe bringing up the best of unit?

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01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 4: What do you what do you feeling?

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Speaker 11: What do you see?

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Speaker 16: I mean, it definitely helps playing with the guys I

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Speaker 16: play with, for sure, got some exceptional defensive backs, exceptional

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Speaker 16: guys and inside Milton Christian herold on opposite and getting

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Speaker 16: getting to the quarterback. So when everybody is kind of

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01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 16: making sure they win it in one on ones and

1503
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 16: dominating in their roles in the game. Man, I think

1504
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 16: it makes everybody's job a bit more easy, especially when

1505
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Speaker 16: you can just focus on one of your one on

1506
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Speaker 16: one battles. So credit to everybody that's on the field

1507
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Speaker 16: within man, I think that's how this goes into started

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Speaker 16: off in O T as we continue to build that

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Speaker 16: chemistry and that ground and kind of just see how

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Speaker 16: we want to get to the quarterback and how we

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Speaker 16: you know what I'm saying, willing to rush as a

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Speaker 16: unit rather than individual past rush.

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Speaker 11: So it's been dope.

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Speaker 16: It's been dope to have a season like this, for sure,

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Speaker 16: But I give all credit to everybody that's on the

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Speaker 16: field with me for sure. Specific how he distinguished himself

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Speaker 16: he honestly as as player, these physical skills, but the

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Speaker 16: effort in either leadership, you.

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Speaker 10: Know, and.

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, So I mean Milk's dope.

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Speaker 16: Obviously he knows what a championship contended team looks like,

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Speaker 16: and he definitely voices his opinion when it speaks that

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Speaker 16: he might not be as loud, right, he got, right,

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Speaker 16: he got But he knows when things not looking right

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Speaker 16: and things kind of looking and going in the right direction.

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Speaker 16: So Milk keeps is all on the right path, man,

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Speaker 16: whether it's for Christian, Harold or me sessional when we

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01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 16: out there rushing together, some things that he sees, especially

1529
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 16: if it's a slo protection or if you know he

1530
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 16: has a one on one matchup, or if he's just

1531
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 16: seeing some different sets between the pair of a garden tackle.

1532
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 16: He steaded talking about on the sideline and trying to

1533
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 16: make sure we're on the same page. So pretty dope

1534
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 16: to be to be to have milk with hims. I

1535
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 16: think I was that two years ago. He was a

1536
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 16: part of recruiter had with seventy two sacks in the

1537
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 16: season and something like that. So I mean, he knows

1538
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 16: how to get to the quarterback, he knows what it takes.

1539
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 16: So I'm super dope to have him inside with us

1540
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 16: for show.

1541
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 11: I'm cure you know your view of the trade deadline.

1542
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 11: Being on a team that's been as successful as it's

1543
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 11: been to this point in the season, do you look.

1544
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 12: At the trade deadline and say, man, it'd be great

1545
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 12: to bring somebody in here to help us get even.

1546
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 11: Better, or how do you look at it when you're

1547
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:50,719
Speaker 11: part of a winning team where you guys been.

1548
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 16: Yeah, that's a question, Rights. I don't really have an

1549
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 16: answer for it. I don't really kind of dig too

1550
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 16: much in that.

1551
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 11: Man.

1552
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 16: I control what I can control, and that's my play

1553
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 16: on the field. Hopefully I'll do everything I can to

1554
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 16: make sure that we continue to go in this direction

1555
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 16: for show up.

1556
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 11: Okay, thanks appreciate, John, thank you.

1557
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: For today and now great moments in history.

1558
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 7: I was told that I said carry on wrong. I

1559
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 7: said carry on. It's carry on one word like like

1560
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 7: the bag. It's a carry on, not carry on, cape,

1561
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 7: calm and carry on.

1562
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 3: It's the acs.

1563
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 6: Do the read before we get in trouble.

1564
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:41,759
Speaker 7: Okay, only liquid's allowed, blood, sweat, and tears. Catch carry

1565
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 7: on December thirteenth, only on Netflix.

1566
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 6: Okay, do you know these things intrigue me?

1567
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1568
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 5: So a carry on that you would carry on to

1569
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 5: an airplane is pronounced differently than carry on.

1570
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, carry on, So by carry I don't see.

1571
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 5: Carry on, I carry on my you're going to bring

1572
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 5: your carry on?

1573
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 1: I feel like I carry on. I feel thank you.

1574
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 5: No, what I'm saying you just said was wrong.

1575
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 7: But Paul, you just said that's not You didn't use

1576
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 7: it as a now used it as a verb.

1577
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 3: You said, I carry on my bag. That's not what

1578
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 3: it is.

1579
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 1: It's a carry on my back.

1580
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 5: It's my carry on.

1581
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 6: It's not my carry on. It's it's my carry on,

1582
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 6: my carry on back, my carry on back.

1583
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1584
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 7: But but when you say, but, when you say carry on,

1585
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 7: I'm not changing carry on, carry on, carry on on

1586
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 7: the conversation.

1587
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 5: It's my carry on back.

1588
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 6: It's I'm saying it the exact, putting.

1589
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,560
Speaker 1: The carrier the on, Paul, carry on.

1590
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 7: It's different. Listen, carry listen, carry on. Carry You put

1591
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 7: the emphasis on on.

1592
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 5: When it's a verb on, Okay on, I don't, but

1593
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 5: you do.

1594
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: You just don't. You want to admit it, but you do.

1595
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 6: I'm you're just being stubbor the whole thing.

1596
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 3: I get that hood.

1597
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 5: I mean you've got that hood shirt.

1598
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: And that's why it's stubborn.

1599
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 6: That's why it's getting under your skin.

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01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: That's another great moment.

1601
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 3: All right.

1602
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 7: A couple announcements, Douce. You want to show off your boots,

1603
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 7: your bront boots. Yeah, I got mine on too.

1604
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 5: What I have my bront Co Yeah I didn't know.

1605
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 9: I'm sorry, guys.

1606
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:18,719
Speaker 7: And you can get these boots on the Bront Workwar

1607
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 7: site for ten dollars less than what they say. All

1608
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 7: you have to do is go to brontworkwear dot com

1609
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 7: slash pats or use the coupon code p A t S.

1610
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 3: When you check out.

1611
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 7: You get these boots for ten dollars less than they

1612
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 7: sell for. Because Bront Workwear makes work boots and apparel

1613
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 7: built for the work job site and official sponsor of

1614
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 7: the New England Patriots and the Gillette Stadium field Crew.

1615
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 3: You buy those, you'll see how comfortable they are.

1616
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: Great. What do you think?

1617
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 3: I love them?

1618
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: I love them.

1619
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 4: I just I was you know, I was a little

1620
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 4: hesitant to break them out because they look so nice.

1621
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 4: But once you start wearing them and your feet get yeah,

1622
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 4: attached to them, and I feel I feel pretty good.

1623
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 3: But they're almost too nice to work, you know, do working.

1624
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 9: We had to explain to Paul today and like, you know,

1625
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 9: those are fashion boots.

1626
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 6: Those are That's Fred's theory.

1627
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 7: So I broke down and I bought another pair of

1628
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 7: Bront work boots. The Sullivan's work boots. You can if

1629
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 7: you want to use them for work, you can. It's

1630
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 7: up to your choice. Also, Bob's has something to say.

1631
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 7: Uh they Sunday night games got you up? Late, sleep better,

1632
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 7: and save big with a mattress based combo from Bob's

1633
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 7: Discount Furniture. When you bundle and save at Bob's, you

1634
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 7: can get a top rated copper Sport hybrid mattress pack

1635
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 7: with pressure relief and cooling copper threads that help you

1636
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 7: chill out after the fourth quarter.

1637
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 3: Paul could use it after the refs, you know, ruin.

1638
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 7: His knife plus an adjustable bass made for sitting up

1639
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 7: to watch the last play for one hundred dollars less

1640
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:55,719
Speaker 7: than buying them separately. Score So stop in and stock

1641
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 7: up at Bob's Discount Furniture, the visual furniture store of

1642
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 7: the New England Patriots. And then one more thing I

1643
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 7: want to mention is that this is Salute to Service

1644
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 7: Week around the NFL and with the Patriots, and it's

1645
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 7: every team honors one person and usually you know a

1646
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 7: player that has a service member and a family or

1647
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,600
Speaker 7: you know, we had Joe Cardona who was actually in

1648
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 7: the Navy.

1649
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 1: While he was here.

1650
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 7: But this year the Patriots honored Fred Waggott, who works

1651
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 7: at our security. He's been here for years, you know,

1652
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 7: he's been here since nine. He served in the Army

1653
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 7: and the Navy. His deep commitment to honoring fellow service members,

1654
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 7: especially those who never return home, is reflected in his

1655
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 7: every action. For it, It's quiet gestures of remembrance have

1656
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 7: become a meaningful tradition within the Patriots community. After each event,

1657
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 7: he thoughtfully places flowers at the pow Mia seat as

1658
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 7: a tribute. You can see that in the North End

1659
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 7: Zone on Memorial Day he ensures fresh flowers are placed there,

1660
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 7: a powerful symbol of his reverence for those loss in service.

1661
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 7: When the North End Zone was renovated and the Row

1662
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 7: of Honor relocated, Fred saw an opportunity to preserve and

1663
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 7: extended its legacy. Collaborating with Jim Nolan, who's our COO,

1664
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 7: he secured the original powm i a seat and arranged

1665
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,839
Speaker 7: for its permanent display in the town of Foxborough, complete

1666
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:28,560
Speaker 7: with a commemorative plaque. So, thanks to his initiative, this

1667
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 7: is the public reminder in Foxborough of the courage and

1668
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 7: commitment of those who serve.

1669
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 6: Congrats, Yeah, well, very much.

1670
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:36,679
Speaker 1: Good for Thread.

1671
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 3: We see him around all the time. Great guy. Uh

1672
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 3: served in both the Army and the Navy. Really, that's interesting,

1673
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 3: I think that was frowned upon. Well you re enlisted.

1674
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 1: He enlisted after nine to eleven.

1675
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 3: What's up?

1676
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 1: Relisted after nine to eleven?

1677
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 5: Really where he worked with Nextel and helped get cell

1678
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 5: phone service back on in New York after nine eleven.

1679
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 6: And guy's done a lot.

1680
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 7: Okay, all right, that's great, Wow, that's amazing, good stuff.

1681
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 3: Fred Wagott, all right, I believe his full name is Wolfrid.

1682
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 1: Oh he's done a real friend?

1683
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 7: Is that?

1684
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 3: Is that right?

1685
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 1: Friedrich? Well, I will confirm I don't know.

1686
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 3: All right, let's get back to the phone, shall we.

1687
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 3: We'll start with Eldred North Carolina? What's up?

1688
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 5: Eldred's powerful?

1689
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 6: Hey, Hey, Hey, there's a couple of lectures there for

1690
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 6: ad Mitchell.

1691
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 3: Agree with.

1692
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:39,560
Speaker 5: Let's go ahead and go on in.

1693
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:44,480
Speaker 14: Hey, but there's a question I saw on the website.

1694
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 19: Steven N.

1695
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 14: Smith reported, I know during World we didn't sign to

1696
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 14: Meccao or ply from the Jets.

1697
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 3: Mal what website are you're reading?

1698
01:16:58,560 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 6: He's on Cleveland right?

1699
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1700
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 14: But now no, but he's a flat guy, He's not.

1701
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 6: He's kind of a gadget guy.

1702
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, something like that.

1703
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 19: And that also got a picture of him sitting in

1704
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 19: in uh Patriots studio signing like he said in the contract,

1705
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,560
Speaker 19: I think you Aldred, have y'all seen it?

1706
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 9: I think I got got Yeah Smith.

1707
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 3: That's a I yeah, well you gotta watch out for that.

1708
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 20: Yeah yeah, but Paul, I agree with you, man.

1709
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 14: I tell you what, Evan, give a third of green

1710
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 14: Bay and give me Christian Watson. I wanted him to

1711
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 14: about devil for the outsake.

1712
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 9: I have a all right, thanks, eld I think he's

1713
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 9: hurt again.

1714
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to Willem.

1715
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 3: Tell him what's up? William. You haven't called in a while.

1716
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's been a while.

1717
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 2: I'm off to day.

1718
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 15: How you doing for it?

1719
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 3: Good? Good?

1720
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 11: Okay?

1721
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 15: My question was not ain't so much even a question?

1722
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,719
Speaker 15: Is something to take that Paul and Evan had talked about,

1723
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 15: which was if I'm saying his name right, you know

1724
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 15: what I'm saying, right, Jeremiah Smith from O Higher State

1725
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 15: and y'all said, I think Paul words quote basically was

1726
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 15: can we get a receiver in a twenty twenty sixth

1727
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 15: draft plan? I know twenty twenty seven is way out there,

1728
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 15: but I'm just saying, look, you got a dual thread quarterback.

1729
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 15: I don't know how long this rookie good? His deal is,

1730
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 15: but don't don't waste it. You know, when you had

1731
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 15: Mack Jeneson on him on a rookie deal, you didn't

1732
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 15: even really put nothing around him. But now you got

1733
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 15: this guy, they just don't waste it, you know what

1734
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 15: I mean? And Johnny and Smith regards to what you

1735
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,799
Speaker 15: say about him, Evan, you know, he'd be perfect New England.

1736
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 15: And we've been waiting for a receiver like this man William.

1737
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 9: He's gonna be the first overall pick in the draft.

1738
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 6: We love Jeremiah and I don't give a damn.

1739
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 15: I'm giving up all my picks to get him.

1740
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 6: Okay, Well that's not going to get it.

1741
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 15: Back my left tackle. If I got my quarterback, my

1742
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 15: left tackle, and whatever else we get this year, why not, Okay?

1743
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 9: I just that was the point we were just trying

1744
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 9: to make. You know, Patriots are on a trajectory. Now

1745
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 9: they're picking in the twenties in twenty twenty seven, like

1746
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 9: you're I don't know how you're getting from twenty two

1747
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 9: to one. Like that's that point.

1748
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 6: We generation absolute stud Okay.

1749
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:25,719
Speaker 15: So why so while I was talking about getting joint

1750
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 15: Tyson knowing you will be front and then you got

1751
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 15: a Tree up.

1752
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 9: To go get him. No, I don't think you would. Yeah,

1753
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 9: Jordan Tyson's like projected right now to be like a

1754
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 9: mid first round pick, probably go somewhere in the teams.

1755
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,799
Speaker 9: So you know, I mean, you're talking about the Patriots

1756
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 9: make the playoffs, like trading up I don't know, five

1757
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 9: to ten spots, you know for a guy like Jordan

1758
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 9: Tyson from Arizona State. So like, we're not talking about

1759
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 9: trade having to trade up into the top three of

1760
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 9: the draft to.

1761
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 15: Get him, right, I'm staying all that, and I really do.

1762
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 15: It's just that we've been claiming for this number one

1763
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 15: for what for how long now? And we passed uff

1764
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 15: On Like we could have had Hopkins in this but

1765
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 15: in his uh, in his prime. We could have had

1766
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 15: digged in this prime, even though we got him later.

1767
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 3: You know, we could.

1768
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 15: We missed up on dk Mack.

1769
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 2: You know, the list goes on and on.

1770
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 15: You know, we just missing out every time. But now

1771
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 15: he comes this guy that's coming out twenty twenty seven,

1772
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 15: and yes, we're gonna be far, We're gonna be far

1773
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 15: away from getting them. But I mean, what are you

1774
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 15: going to do?

1775
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 11: You know?

1776
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 15: Yep, I'm just saying you got this dual threat quarterback.

1777
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 11: He's on a rookie deal.

1778
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, get him some weapons, is what you're saying.

1779
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think anybody is disagreeing with that.

1780
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 3: All right, thanks.

1781
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 9: I don't know how there's not a path to get Jeremiah's.

1782
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 1: Not going to get Jeremiah Smith. I guess, yeah, continue

1783
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 1: same old thing from the Patriots.

1784
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 5: Would I would love to get Jeremiah Smith.

1785
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 9: I mean maybe if they you know, commanders it and

1786
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 9: they have they go regress, I think that they can

1787
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 9: get Jeremiah Smith.

1788
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 1: That was that was a verb.

1789
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 5: Now I like it, but you also like the whole

1790
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 5: premise of well, you have this young quarterback, and well

1791
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 5: I pointed out that you can't get him in twenty six.

1792
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 5: So it's twenty seven. So now you've ostensibly paid Gonzales

1793
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 5: and you're gonna have to pay May. So the whole

1794
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 5: premise is kind of out of whack too. So now

1795
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 5: you're going to do that and you're gonna trade god

1796
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 5: knows what to move up to get to one from

1797
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 5: the twenties if things go well, while.

1798
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 9: You're talking about three first round picks, right.

1799
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 5: And that's that's all I'm saying, like Jeremiah Smith, there's nobody,

1800
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 5: nobody who watches college football that wouldn't say that he's

1801
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 5: one of the best players in college football.

1802
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 9: It might have been the best player instge football last year. Yeah,

1803
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 9: I just when it comes to the receiver, I mean,

1804
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 9: if you're talking about May and his ricky contract and

1805
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 9: you're talking about paying a veteran receiver with the extra

1806
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 9: cap space, you know, next off season going out and

1807
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 9: trading for aj Brown, trading for Jaylen Waddle who might

1808
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 9: be more available in the off season than he is now,

1809
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 9: you know, doing something like that, which we're all for. Like,

1810
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,719
Speaker 9: I just you're not getting Jeremiah Smith, Like I didn't.

1811
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 9: Let's let's again they have a very bad regression next

1812
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 9: year and they end up, you know, missing the playoffs.

1813
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 9: Like I guess, maybe we can have that conversation, but

1814
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 9: I think that there's a real chance in twenty twenty

1815
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,560
Speaker 9: seven he goes first overall. So I just don't know

1816
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 9: how you're going to be able to pull that off.

1817
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 3: Let's go to Andrew in LA what's up, Andrew?

1818
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 11: Hey, what's up?

1819
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 8: Boys?

1820
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 3: Hey?

1821
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 11: I wanted to I don't know if this got brought

1822
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 11: up earlier in the show.

1823
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 20: But I see a huge margin of error that we

1824
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 20: didn't have the last few years with various quarterbacks that

1825
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 20: were on our team. It kind of dates back to Brady,

1826
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 20: where we have this huge margin of era that we

1827
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 20: can make all these mistakes and still come out with

1828
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 20: a victory. I don't know if you guys have seen

1829
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 20: this recently.

1830
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked.

1831
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 4: I mean I think we talked about it, like literally

1832
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 4: during the game last week, where I remember leaning back

1833
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 4: and saying to Paul, like, it's just different to feel like, oh,

1834
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 4: it's third and long, like there's still a chance. Like

1835
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 4: last couple of years, it felt like you got the

1836
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 4: third and six and it was like, oh boy, this

1837
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 4: is gonna be a big ask on this one.

1838
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 5: In that regard, I would agree. I think if that

1839
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 5: game unfolded the other way around, I would like to

1840
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 5: have seen if they were able to win it, if

1841
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 5: he had the first half that he had in the

1842
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 5: second and not the twenty one point you know, head

1843
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 5: start that they had, I would have wondered. I would

1844
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 5: have you know, Yeah, it was incredible.

1845
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 9: Their ability to gain first downs from long down and

1846
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 9: distance second and third down is one of the best

1847
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 9: in the league and uncanny like third and thirteen first down,

1848
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 9: like they're you know, second and long first down, you

1849
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 9: take a sack, second and long first down.

1850
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 5: It's that way almost almost all seasons two.

1851
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 6: It's not like one or two times.

1852
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's incredible how they've been able to do that.

1853
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 7: Thanks Andrew. Brian's in Delaware. Hey Brian, how you guys doing.

1854
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 19: I wanted to ask this, since Kayshawn Booty might be out,

1855
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 19: do you think Pop Douglas is going to have a

1856
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 19: bigger season coming into this Bucks game?

1857
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 1: No, I think it might be Kyle Williams. And that's

1858
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 1: what Mike Rabel kind of said yesterday that you know,

1859
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: it was a Friday.

1860
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 5: Is Yesterday he said that Booty's day to day. We

1861
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 5: should probably update that. Booty himself on one of these

1862
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 5: media the kids. Sorry, he said, nothing to worry about,

1863
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,719
Speaker 5: just a Grade one hamstring strain.

1864
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 9: What does that mean?

1865
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 5: That's the least said yesterday that he will be definitely

1866
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 5: missing some practice time early in this week. So maybe

1867
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 5: we'll see if he can get back out in the

1868
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 5: practice field Thursday or more likely maybe Friday. I'm kind of,

1869
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 5: as Fred likes to say, I'm not counting on him

1870
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 5: for Sunday. Based on the way that Mike sounded, it's

1871
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 5: going to give Kyle Williams more of an opportunity. I

1872
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 5: wouldn't expect him to be a big part of the

1873
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 5: passing games game.

1874
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 7: Maybe Booty would go, but we got a lot of

1875
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 7: football left and they're gonna need him, so I would

1876
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 7: air on the side of caution with him.

1877
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 9: So there's three grades to hamstring injuries one, two, three.

1878
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 9: One is considered mild, three is considered severe. Based off

1879
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,839
Speaker 9: the report in Christian Gonzales had a Grade three hamstring

1880
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 9: strain in training camp. That is a usually around a

1881
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 9: six week four to six week injury. UH grade one

1882
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 9: ham string it can it can only be like a

1883
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 9: week or two that you know that they end up missing.

1884
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 9: But the tricky part about ham strings is that you

1885
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 9: can make a hamstring worse. So if you come back

1886
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 9: to quickly and then you play on a ify hamstring,

1887
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 9: then you can actually tearn a Grade one into a

1888
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 9: Grade three right awfully quickly, unlike other injuries.

1889
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 5: My opinion, only no one's told me this. I think

1890
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,520
Speaker 5: that's what happened to Christian Gonzalez, because if you remember.

1891
01:25:58,280 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 3: The initial to come back to.

1892
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 5: The initial report on Gonzalez was day to day, turned

1893
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 5: out to be two months. Yeah, I think something like

1894
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,480
Speaker 5: Evan just described probably happened to Christian.

1895
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 3: Camillo from Hartford.

1896
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 7: After the win over Cleveland, Drake May said, we haven't

1897
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 7: been able to put together a full game, and honestly true,

1898
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 7: awards have never been mumbled over a Gatorade cooler.

1899
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 3: Every week.

1900
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 7: It's like the team is playing whack a mole. The

1901
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 7: offense pops up, the defense ducks special teams. Well, they're

1902
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 7: the one friend who shows up late to the party

1903
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:32,679
Speaker 7: but still wants credit for being there the whole time.

1904
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:34,799
Speaker 3: So what are you guys.

1905
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 7: Seeing that's keeping this team from stringing together a full

1906
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 7: sixty minutes of complimentary football?

1907
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 3: Is it growing pains?

1908
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 7: A lack of discipline that makes you wonder if someone

1909
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:46,719
Speaker 7: skipped team meetings or did the football guys just forget

1910
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 7: to send the memo about playing all three phases at

1911
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 7: the same time.

1912
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 9: It's really hard to do.

1913
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, it's not like every other team in the

1914
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 4: NFL that are all put in sixteen minutes and you

1915
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 4: and you're right, it's a young team.

1916
01:26:58,360 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 3: But it's talent.

1917
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 7: But I Also you got to look at who the

1918
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 7: opponents are sometimes the other in a given game, you know,

1919
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 7: like for example, we play the Falcons this game. They

1920
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 7: have a good pass defense and so that showed up,

1921
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,759
Speaker 7: and other games you might play a team that doesn't,

1922
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 7: but they have with Mike.

1923
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 5: You know, like people are looking for something that's probably

1924
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 5: not they're not prepared for yet.

1925
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 6: But they're good enough to play sixty minute games.

1926
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 9: But they're also like the game's over by the third quarter.

1927
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 5: And that's been a couple of times.

1928
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 9: So I'm just saying, like against the Titans against the Browns,

1929
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 9: like I.

1930
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 5: Would count those as sixty minute games.

1931
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 9: I think they played like.

1932
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 5: Miami. They're not good enough to just dominate these teams

1933
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 5: for sixty minutes. Even though those teams aren't good, I

1934
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 5: don't think they're good enough to just say we're so

1935
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 5: much better than these teams, we're gonna beat them. But

1936
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 5: Cleveland and Tennessee, they would bet they would they were

1937
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 5: good enough to do that too. They weren't good enough

1938
01:27:57,880 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 5: to do that every game.

1939
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,640
Speaker 4: I how many teams aren't like right now, and then

1940
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 4: usually the teams that do it string it together at

1941
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 4: the end, and then those are the teams that make

1942
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl run.

1943
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's you're always shooting for it.

1944
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 5: I agree with you.

1945
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:11,680
Speaker 6: It's a hard thing to do.

1946
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: It's a hard expectation to hold them against.

1947
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 5: I think the Patriots have played pretty consistently at a

1948
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 5: pretty high level. But I think they're getting the most

1949
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 5: out of what they have on a pretty consistent basis.

1950
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 9: I do think it's interesting though. You know, they're at

1951
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 9: like twenty six a game right now, it's top ten

1952
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:31,639
Speaker 9: in the league. But they're right around the same scoring

1953
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 9: every single week. Unless they get like a defensive touchdown,

1954
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:34,959
Speaker 9: they score.

1955
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:36,600
Speaker 5: In the low twenties every game. Yeah, I agree with

1956
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 5: you one thousand percent.

1957
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 9: So to the emailer's point, I this is one of

1958
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 9: those games against Atlanta that you would have liked to

1959
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 9: have seen them put together one more touchdown drive to

1960
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 9: get it to thirty one, thirty somewhere around there and

1961
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 9: not would have really probably put this game away. They

1962
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 9: only have eight points in the second half right now.

1963
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 9: I like to think they missed the extra point, so

1964
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 9: it's not a tie game. Like I'd like to think

1965
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 9: that Drake May he just takes them down the field

1966
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 9: and wins the game. If it's twenty four to twenty four,

1967
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 9: but he didn't have to so it had opportunity to

1968
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 9: present itself. But it is true they kind of hover

1969
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 9: right around those the mid twenties.

1970
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:12,759
Speaker 3: Sam and Charlotte.

1971
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 7: Congratulations to Fred for correctly predicting Park a Roma would

1972
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 7: miss an extra point. Congratulations to the Falcons for missing

1973
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 7: the extra point and losing the game to get a

1974
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 7: higher draft pick because they knew they were not going

1975
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 7: to the super Bowl. Oh, I don't think that's what happened.

1976
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:33,560
Speaker 7: I don't think that's what happened. So a lot of

1977
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 7: a lot of emails, tons of emails.

1978
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 1: People are interesting.

1979
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe reads. So it's so, Freddy, I got a chance.

1980
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 5: I met a listener last night. You know, you met

1981
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 5: a listener that the Northeastern bu basketball game. The play

1982
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 5: by play guy for Nesson Gentleman named Alex Vaspoli came

1983
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 5: up to me and said said hello, and said, I'm big,

1984
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 5: big pu fan.

1985
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 6: I listened all the time.

1986
01:29:58,240 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 5: He's got a one year old at home, so he

1987
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 5: can't all he's participated in the show. He can't call

1988
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 5: in and stuff, but uh yeah, he loves what we do.

1989
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 5: He listens to us all the time, faithful listener, Thank you. Unfortunately,

1990
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 5: the bad guy was.

1991
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 7: The game that you were at last night at Matthews. Yes,

1992
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 7: so do you have like a seat that your seat

1993
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 7: and you go and everyone comes in.

1994
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 5: So there was a little of that last night. I'm

1995
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 5: not gonna lie. And we haven't been we haven't been

1996
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 5: to a game a lot, but my brother and I went.

1997
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 5: We we did not We did not go to a

1998
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 5: single game last year, and people were.

1999
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 3: Like people people know d'angelo's move.

2000
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 5: No, no, just kids don't want to go anymore and

2001
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 5: get tied up with things you know now that the

2002
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 5: kids are in school, like there's just ye called rich,

2003
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 5: I said, you want to go and ended up being

2004
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 5: a disaster because someone intentionally hit us with their car

2005
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 5: on the way into the game last night. Seriously, I'm

2006
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 5: not exaggerating. Someone intentionally hit us. Not the whole front

2007
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 5: bumper of my brother's car off intentionally. Yes, he pulled

2008
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 5: up beside him very angrily and slammed himself into the

2009
01:30:59,439 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 5: side of my brother.

2010
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 3: This car, you're kidding, called assault brother? No, did you

2011
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 3: call the police?

2012
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 12: Yeah?

2013
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 3: I mean everything, and then he and then he took off.

2014
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 21: He had this vacant stare the first time. I told him,

2015
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 21: he's nodding, he's naught. You're like, let me spell it

2016
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 21: out for it, and he took it. He took off,

2017
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 21: and you got his plate and he took off. I

2018
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 21: took a picture of his plate. My brother called nine

2019
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:25,719
Speaker 21: one one nice and they already got him. The police

2020
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 21: have been in touch with my brother, so they got

2021
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:28,919
Speaker 21: the guy's insurance.

2022
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:30,559
Speaker 3: You know who he is, Like, where's he from?

2023
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 5: No, I'm not not getting into that because we didn't

2024
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 5: chase him down because of fear.

2025
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 3: No, I know the guy's are not.

2026
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:38,640
Speaker 1: But yes, I didn't know.

2027
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 6: I didn't know what we're going to be looking at.

2028
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 4: So I mean, I asked Paul, if that had been

2029
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 4: the Perlo brothers back in like eighties, nineties, we might

2030
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:46,679
Speaker 4: have had guys.

2031
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 6: So I'm not really exactly sure.

2032
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 5: We took a turn. We took a left onto mass

2033
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 5: av and we we got over to the left because

2034
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:59,599
Speaker 5: it gets kind of congested in that area. It's by

2035
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 5: the boss in Medical Center and Method one mile, you know,

2036
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 5: so there's a lot of activity down there, and we

2037
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 5: tried to get over to the left because we're going straight.

2038
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 5: A lot of people are taking that right, a lot

2039
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 5: of people are going into the hospital and whatnot, and

2040
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, the guy just beeps his horn

2041
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 5: and then he speeds up, like we cut him off,

2042
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 5: And I don't think we did, but you know, I

2043
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 5: don't know. I wasn't driving. I was probably just not

2044
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 5: really paying attention. My brother was driving, and he sped

2045
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 5: up right next to us. My brother kind of hit

2046
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:34,879
Speaker 5: the brake a little bit, and the guy just barreled,

2047
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 5: and I mean he intentionally hit our car with his

2048
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 5: He had a big black pickup truck, you know, full

2049
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 5: will joe, you know, so he didn't care. And the

2050
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 5: whole front of my brother's SUV, the whole front bumper

2051
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:48,679
Speaker 5: and the grill gone.

2052
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 1: Wow.

2053
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 5: When we were driving back the other way, I said,

2054
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 5: slow down here when we're able to find a bumper.

2055
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 6: He was not amused.

2056
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 11: That sucks.

2057
01:32:57,960 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 3: But that's weird, that's wild.

2058
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 6: It was weird.

2059
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 5: And then we've got a little afraid, not gonna lie.

2060
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 5: We're like, I don't know what.

2061
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 6: This guy, this guy you're gonna carry or something.

2062
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2063
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we just kind of we we we waited

2064
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 5: for the cop who was supposed to come, and then

2065
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 5: we waited for like five minutes and people like coming

2066
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 5: up to the car and my brother I ain't waiting

2067
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 5: around him anymore. We went to the game.

2068
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 3: Wow that's something. Yeah, well, let me know what happens.

2069
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 3: I want to who find out who this guy is?

2070
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 1: Justice.

2071
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 6: I'm not going to be telling what the guy is.

2072
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:29,760
Speaker 3: What do you mean?

2073
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:32,600
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna lie. Was it spooked me?

2074
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 3: Okay?

2075
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 6: It was kind of scared assaulted?

2076
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2077
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you know, magnum p I out there,

2078
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 3: you know, I speak car chase guys crashing his own

2079
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 3: stinking car to like.

2080
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 9: He had a big pickup.

2081
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 6: Just I think my brother has a I mean, my

2082
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 6: brother's SUV is not small.

2083
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 3: Maybe he recognized you and heard you on the radio.

2084
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 1: Another listener and done like to show that one.

2085
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 3: Yeah it wasn't Andy Hart, was it?

2086
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 11: It was.

2087
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 1: Boro?

2088
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 5: All right? I have an Andy Hart story for you.

2089
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:10,559
Speaker 5: Off the air though, Oh off the air all right?

2090
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 11: Uh?

2091
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 7: Thor Door from Iceland rights in Happy Victory Tuesday from Iceland.

2092
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 7: I thought this game became unnecessarily close, and as was

2093
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 7: said in the postgame show, the game should have been

2094
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 7: closed out by halftime. But a win is a win,

2095
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 7: and we'll take it. I was wondering what type of

2096
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 7: snowblowers are you working with. I live in a snow

2097
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 7: area in Iceland and I'm looking to buying a snowblow.

2098
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:36,560
Speaker 7: You've got to arrans. You gotta take Aarons, a R

2099
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 7: I E N s now. I don't know if they're

2100
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:42,560
Speaker 7: sold in Europe, might be under a different name, but

2101
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 7: Aarons is where you want to go. Let me tell

2102
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 7: you I bought what you have. Yeah, I bought an

2103
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 7: Aarons years ago when I lived in Rentham. I don't

2104
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 7: have a garage or a shed big enough to put,

2105
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 7: you know, a big machine, so it's been sitting outside

2106
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 7: for i'd say seven years. Still runs like a top,

2107
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 7: still runs covered up though I have a cover for it,

2108
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 7: but that doesn't do much.

2109
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 9: Are they a sponsor?

2110
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2111
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:11,720
Speaker 9: Absolutely, I wouldn't.

2112
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 7: Absolutely a sponsor. And I'm not saying that I bought

2113
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 7: Like I said, I bought this like seven years ago.

2114
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 4: And the guys calling it from Iceland too, and it's

2115
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 4: going to be a serious machine up there, I would assume.

2116
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about a snow I mean that's literally Iceland. Well,

2117
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,560
Speaker 1: actually Greenland is more icy than Iceland. Did you know

2118
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:29,680
Speaker 1: that still Vikings thing.

2119
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, in fact, we know with a rightful lair to

2120
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 6: the throne.

2121
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:41,719
Speaker 3: Let's see somebody wants to talk about dead cap money.

2122
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 3: I don't think we want to go there.

2123
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 9: I'm more than happy to man's plain dead cat this guy.

2124
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 7: I'm pleased to report that at the Celtics game last night,

2125
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 7: I did not run backwards into Drake and Will like

2126
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 7: I did to Ravees and r KK earlier this year

2127
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 7: at the celt Unfortunately, they couldn't pull out a win,

2128
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 7: but it was great to see the two of them

2129
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 7: locked into the game and court side from start to finish.

2130
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 9: That's true on both accounts.

2131
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 3: You weren't there.

2132
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 9: I was not at this one. Now I was watching

2133
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 9: all right, good Drake Heights. Pretty disheartening.

2134
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 7: Uh.

2135
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:21,759
Speaker 3: Back to the phones we go. Dan Is in Daytona.

2136
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 14: Hey Dan, any how's it going, guys?

2137
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 16: How you doing?

2138
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 8: Fred?

2139
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 12: Paul?

2140
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 3: Hey? Alex?

2141
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 14: Hey, So I got a couple of tips for you

2142
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 14: guys today.

2143
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2144
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 14: I try to call it on a Sunday when during

2145
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 14: the post game, Well, I do want to agree with

2146
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 14: you when you were talking about on Sunday you and Mike.

2147
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 14: I wasn't overly impressed.

2148
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 4: With the.

2149
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 14: How the defense played throughout the game. They were just

2150
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 14: kind of wildly inconsistent. I felt, uh, I just felt

2151
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:52,880
Speaker 14: like they, well, I guess the whole team in general

2152
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 14: kind of took a rest after the first half.

2153
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 15: But uh, I think what I.

2154
01:36:57,520 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 14: Think Mike was staying on Sunday, like some of the

2155
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 14: players like chased on him. He was looking like an

2156
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 14: all pro. And then just towards the end of the game,

2157
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 14: they just died off. And that's kind of why I've

2158
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 14: been for the I've been saying for the past month

2159
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:12,680
Speaker 14: that I've been calling in that they really need to

2160
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,680
Speaker 14: make a push for I mean, if they think this

2161
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 14: year's they have potential to goal. I mean, I know

2162
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:20,680
Speaker 14: everyone's saying, oh they won't, they won't go deep in

2163
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:22,640
Speaker 14: the playoffs, but maybe they won't make the playoffs. But

2164
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 14: I really think they just needed to bite the bullet.

2165
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:28,639
Speaker 14: I'd hate to see them give up a first round

2166
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:32,639
Speaker 14: just because I would rather than wait and collect more

2167
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:36,759
Speaker 14: picks like they did this past draft, you know, moving

2168
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:39,600
Speaker 14: around the board and stacking up picks. So I like

2169
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 14: them in one way to not give up a first round,

2170
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 14: but I really do want them to get a pass

2171
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:47,640
Speaker 14: rush of year just because you know, if any of

2172
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:51,839
Speaker 14: those guys goes down, we have no depth, we're essentially screwed.

2173
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:54,600
Speaker 14: And then we're just kind of watching the playoffs like

2174
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:57,680
Speaker 14: everybody else on our couch. So I would like them to,

2175
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 14: you know, the front office, I know, know, follow your guys,

2176
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:04,639
Speaker 14: clown Elliot Wolf, but I don't know if his office

2177
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 14: his guys will actually you know, pull a plug on it.

2178
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 14: But I would like to see them do that. And

2179
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 14: then for the offense, I don't think there's too much

2180
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 14: at this point that they could do. Maybe adding Breeze Hall,

2181
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 14: but I just really don't think that actually would happen,

2182
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 14: but i'd be I would probably be shocked if they did.

2183
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 14: I think that would be good if they did. Add that,

2184
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:29,640
Speaker 14: you have another dynamic on the offense, and then you

2185
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 14: add a good pass rusher on the defense. I think

2186
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 14: that will help their chances. But I just see the

2187
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 14: Patriots kind of just patching it together and making it work.

2188
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:41,720
Speaker 14: But I just don't want to see them, you know,

2189
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 14: sitting on their couch watching the postseason like everybody else.

2190
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 3: All right, thanks with call, Dan, need want to move,

2191
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 3: we want moves.

2192
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 9: I think pass rush depth is a fair concern I

2193
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:56,040
Speaker 9: don't really know where this narrative is coming from that

2194
01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 9: their pass rush has been bad, So I think that

2195
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 9: may that might be anecdotal, and I that's fair. Maybe

2196
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 9: I just think like Vrabel's been somewhat curtic.

2197
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:10,719
Speaker 1: People have been completing a lot of passage.

2198
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it just never like and I like, such

2199
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:15,880
Speaker 4: a this is not about near pressure, Like I am

2200
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:17,600
Speaker 4: sowing this right now, like you're right, like all the

2201
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 4: numbers look good, and then I've watched all the games

2202
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 4: and it's like, how many times recently did you feel

2203
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 4: like a quarterback was uncomfortable?

2204
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:26,719
Speaker 5: Like I'm saying that he agrees with me. On Sunday,

2205
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 5: I thought the defense played pretty well on Sunday, I

2206
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:32,360
Speaker 5: was disappointed in the eighty five yard touchdown drive. Now,

2207
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:36,680
Speaker 5: in fairness, that also included a huge penalty that took

2208
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 5: a third and ten away. It was a second and ten,

2209
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:40,680
Speaker 5: it would have set up third and ten. It gave

2210
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 5: him a first down and then two fourth down conversion.

2211
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 5: So it's not like they just let walk Yeah, but

2212
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:47,560
Speaker 5: it's not like they just let him walk down the

2213
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:49,599
Speaker 5: field like it was a good drive by Atlanta. I'm

2214
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 5: you know, I'm giving them credit for doing it otherwise.

2215
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:54,719
Speaker 5: I thought the Patriots defense played pretty well on Sunday.

2216
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 5: You know, you can't fault them. Much like I always

2217
01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 5: take away the offensive points for the Patriots when they

2218
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 5: take over inside the five yard line, I'm not going

2219
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 5: to hang out on the defense, right when when you

2220
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 5: know the Falcons take over in the six that's not

2221
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:09,639
Speaker 5: that's not the defense's fault, right. I mean, yeah, you'd

2222
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 5: like to see the red zone defense be a little

2223
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 5: bit better. They're last in the league, but I think

2224
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 5: they played pretty well Sunday. The pressure I think has

2225
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 5: been very sporadic. I know you're probably gonna point to

2226
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 5: some numbers that that Mike is talking about. I don't

2227
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 5: think they affect the quarterback that often. Sunday I thought

2228
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 5: they did. I thought they got the ball out of Pennix's.

2229
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:32,280
Speaker 3: Hands a couple of times, especially the second half.

2230
01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 9: I just think that, you know, it's all it marries, right,

2231
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 9: Like you to have good pressure, you also need to

2232
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 9: have good coverage, and to have good coverage, you need

2233
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 9: to have.

2234
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 5: Good pressure that's avable.

2235
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 9: So I like the pressures U there pressure rate, you know,

2236
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:51,880
Speaker 9: their win rate like all of that is really really good.

2237
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 9: But you can't blame the defensive line for the fact

2238
01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:59,799
Speaker 9: that there's open guys down the field to alleviate the pressure.

2239
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:03,799
Speaker 7: But so the type of pressure that they're generating, especially

2240
01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 7: up the middle, it's perfect if you had that edge

2241
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 7: guy because he'd be cleaning up that like crazy sure,

2242
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 7: and that pressure would he'd be having fifteen sacks a year.

2243
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 9: I guess, So I just I look at it a

2244
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 9: little bit differently. I guess I think the issue that

2245
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 9: they're having is that the ball is coming out too

2246
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 9: quick because there's open guys, so and the ball's coming

2247
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 9: out as quick as it is. I don't care who

2248
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 9: you have rush in the passer like we saw this

2249
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 9: with Brady for twenty years, Like when the ball's coming out, like,

2250
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:37,240
Speaker 9: there's no way that that pressure that they're generating is

2251
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 9: going to turn into sacks unless the coverage is making

2252
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 9: the quarterback hold the ball. So you know, you look

2253
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:47,640
Speaker 9: at you know, the numbers like their eleventh in pressure rate,

2254
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 9: their top ten and time to pressure, their top ten

2255
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:54,639
Speaker 9: and win rate like they they're pressure they are winning

2256
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:57,840
Speaker 9: up front more times than not. What they're not doing

2257
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:01,600
Speaker 9: is you don't see the can consistent marriage of we

2258
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:04,480
Speaker 9: have tight coverage down the field that's making the quarterback

2259
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:08,439
Speaker 9: go through progressions and hold the football with the pressure

2260
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:12,640
Speaker 9: and marrying that up. So you could argue that you

2261
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 9: could go out and get an edge rusher that can

2262
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 9: clean up and take advantage of Barmore and Williams on

2263
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:20,840
Speaker 9: the inside, or you could argue that they need to

2264
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 9: cover better.

2265
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:24,920
Speaker 7: I mean, that's what we thought might happen with Keon

2266
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:28,760
Speaker 7: White this year, but it didn't. And you know, we're

2267
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:32,840
Speaker 7: hoping Chase on you know, Chason has been pretty good.

2268
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 7: Landry's kind of fallen off a little bit.

2269
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 1: He might be a little banged up.

2270
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:39,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that no Lan since the no Onans

2271
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 6: gave me, hasn't been the same guy.

2272
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's I think he's playing hard.

2273
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:46,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, I just I don't know. I think that this

2274
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 9: is one that I'm gonna maybe just be on an

2275
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:51,640
Speaker 9: island on. I just when I watched them play, I

2276
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 9: don't have concerns about them winning up front. They stopped

2277
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 9: to run, they get off blocks, they get pressure on

2278
01:42:57,479 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 9: the quarterback. You know, Penick's under pressure for forty five

2279
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 9: percent of the time in this game. They just they

2280
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:06,479
Speaker 9: haven't covered particularly great. Yeah, And I think when you

2281
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 9: don't cover, like these quarterbacks are good enough that they

2282
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 9: can make throws under pressure.

2283
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think it's anything to do with a

2284
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 1: new play caller? And maybe I don't know. I just

2285
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:19,720
Speaker 1: sometimes it feels like.

2286
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 4: First second down, there's a lot of easy throws, and

2287
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 4: you know, to your point, like, I just I find

2288
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 4: this fascinating, like everything you're saying, and you know, looking

2289
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:28,360
Speaker 4: at it myself, of you're right, like all the numbers

2290
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 4: match up and it looks good sometimes. But you know,

2291
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 4: at the same time, I felt like some of these quarterbacks,

2292
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 4: young guys have established a rhythm and just felt comfortable

2293
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 4: and haven't felt like you know, I just I don't.

2294
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what the answer is. I think you're right.

2295
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm like.

2296
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:44,760
Speaker 4: Christian Gonzalez, by the way, that was just awesome to

2297
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 4: watch that back him going against Drake London, back and

2298
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 4: forth to really good players you want. You know, we're

2299
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 4: talking a couple of years whether or not they should

2300
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:52,559
Speaker 4: resign Gunzale.

2301
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 1: Some people might say.

2302
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 4: They won't, but like I think this game is a

2303
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 4: great example of this is why you need a guy

2304
01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 4: like Christian Gonzalez to at least make it competitive, but

2305
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,560
Speaker 4: Marcus Jones just won Defensive Player of the Month, you know,

2306
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:05,600
Speaker 4: so you have really two top of the line cornerbacks,

2307
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 4: and so we point to the line back.

2308
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 12: You know.

2309
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 4: I don't know what the answer is, and I'm not

2310
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:11,720
Speaker 4: saying Evan's wrong or anything. I just there's so much

2311
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 4: going on right now with this defense that I can't

2312
01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:17,080
Speaker 4: exactly tell you if they're great or if they're very

2313
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 4: flawed and can get exposed.

2314
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 9: I think the biggest thing with you know, that I

2315
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 9: was encouraged about with this game, is this the first

2316
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 9: time where I've really seen them dictate matchups defensively. Gonzales

2317
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 9: shadowed Drake London for most of the game until he

2318
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 9: got hurt, and then they also had some cool things

2319
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 9: with Bijeon, like when Bijon flexed out, Marcus Jones was

2320
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:39,960
Speaker 9: covering Bijon and so they had Marcus Jones shadowing. He

2321
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:43,599
Speaker 9: had eight catches, but they were for like fifty yards. Yeah,

2322
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:46,200
Speaker 9: it wasn't a lot of yardage. And so every time

2323
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 9: Bijon flexed out out of the backfield as a receiver,

2324
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 9: he got Marcus Jones. So they haven't really been shadowing

2325
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:57,640
Speaker 9: receivers like that as much this year, and I think

2326
01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 9: the best man coverage defenses in particular do that to

2327
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:03,640
Speaker 9: manage the matchup so that you don't get stuck with

2328
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:07,560
Speaker 9: Christian Gonzalez covering their third receiver and now you know

2329
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 9: Marcus Jones and Drake London, so like that's sort of

2330
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 9: you know the goal there. So I thought that this happen.

2331
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 9: That happened a lot better. They did a lot better

2332
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 9: in this game with Dad and you know, outside of

2333
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:23,640
Speaker 9: the red zone, Pennix was one for seven against man

2334
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:26,640
Speaker 9: coverage in this game. The one was the bomb to

2335
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 9: London after Gonzales left the game. The twenty five yarder

2336
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:32,400
Speaker 9: towards the end of the game was on Carlton Davis.

2337
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 9: So I think they did a lot better at managing matchups.

2338
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:39,040
Speaker 9: There was a lot more like low help and robber

2339
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 9: help within the man coverage structures. So this was, to me,

2340
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 9: was a step in the right direction from a man

2341
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:47,720
Speaker 9: coverage standpoint, and now you just hope that they can

2342
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 9: keep that going.

2343
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:50,599
Speaker 7: Andrew in La says I hung up on him before

2344
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:54,799
Speaker 7: he was able to share this stat before Sunday. Teams

2345
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 7: that forced six sacks, forced two takeaways through three passing

2346
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:03,559
Speaker 7: touchdowns committed zero turnovers were forty four and oh since

2347
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:04,680
Speaker 7: nineteen sixty four.

2348
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, now they're forty four and one.

2349
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:07,679
Speaker 5: How do I hate those?

2350
01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:08,639
Speaker 3: Why?

2351
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:10,880
Speaker 1: I think that's a great stat I think it was

2352
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 1: thank you Andrew.

2353
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 9: If it was raining it was it a Monday night

2354
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:14,879
Speaker 9: or is it Sunday?

2355
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:16,280
Speaker 6: You know sons?

2356
01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 11: Like is it?

2357
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 4: Like?

2358
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 1: What did you think of Davis on that play?

2359
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:19,680
Speaker 3: Though?

2360
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 1: Like he just kind of kept running like it was

2361
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 1: kind of weird. I was like, where's he going?

2362
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:26,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean to his you know, defense, like his

2363
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 9: extended player.

2364
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:27,680
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2365
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:29,320
Speaker 1: No, it seemed like he thought the play was over.

2366
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:31,280
Speaker 5: It was kind of like slowing down and was like,

2367
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 5: oh yeah, but yeah, it's late in the show. I

2368
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:37,720
Speaker 5: want to be snarky Paul so bad?

2369
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 1: Well does you can be?

2370
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 11: So?

2371
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:42,559
Speaker 5: The stat also include snapping the ball when they when

2372
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:45,000
Speaker 5: they when they're not ready, missing an extra point and

2373
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:48,160
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter it happened, but that this is my point,

2374
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 5: is like you're only talking about good things that the

2375
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 5: team I know, but they're not talking about them litany

2376
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:53,960
Speaker 5: of bad things that they did.

2377
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 3: They had forty four other chances to do that, and

2378
01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 3: we were the first team to do it. Yeah, forty five,

2379
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 3: I should say, hang the banner, Bart and Poland you

2380
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 3: can be stocky about this one too.

2381
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 7: Sorry, Paul, But the play in the game wasn't an

2382
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 7: OPI on Hollins on that last.

2383
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 6: Play, I don't think it was.

2384
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:14,800
Speaker 7: The NFL rulebook says offensive pass and appearance rules apply

2385
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 7: from the time the ball has snapped until the ball

2386
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:19,840
Speaker 7: is touched. Hollins makes contact with the defender at the

2387
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:21,719
Speaker 7: very same moment as Henry touches.

2388
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:23,360
Speaker 5: I'm going to reiterate that I don't think that that

2389
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 5: should be called offensive passing appearance. I said that Sunday

2390
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 5: and I'll say it again today, so you will agree

2391
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 5: with me. Bart.

2392
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 9: It was a very well executed play.

2393
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 3: I thought so.

2394
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:34,720
Speaker 9: It was a bang bang, but it was very well executed.

2395
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 5: And Fred made the point of let's just say, for

2396
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:41,800
Speaker 5: argument's sake, Mac Collins isn't even there. The guy wasn't

2397
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:43,719
Speaker 5: anywhere close to agree hunter Henry.

2398
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 9: That was the other thing that I was going to

2399
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 9: say that that.

2400
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:48,520
Speaker 5: Was why I don't think it should even be considered

2401
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:51,120
Speaker 5: to be passing affairance. But I just said, the referee

2402
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:52,440
Speaker 5: can't take that into consideration.

2403
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 9: Now he gets the first down without the pick. He

2404
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:59,160
Speaker 9: gets seventeen yards because of the pick. Now it doesn't matter,

2405
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 9: you know, the yards doesn't really end up mattering. But

2406
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 9: I thought it was a They ran a little differently

2407
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 9: this time. They kind of ran it as like a

2408
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 9: five step under instead of a slant, and that, like

2409
01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:12,800
Speaker 9: a little bit of extra time made it legal. If

2410
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 9: they ran it as a slant, that would have been

2411
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:14,559
Speaker 9: a pick.

2412
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:16,559
Speaker 5: And I would just argue that I've seen that called

2413
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:19,520
Speaker 5: many times. I don't want it called. I hate the referees.

2414
01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:23,559
Speaker 5: That's why Brad Allen and his crewe got a special

2415
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 5: list on the good List because he let them play. Yeah,

2416
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:32,479
Speaker 5: that crew obviously lived up to their reputation of being

2417
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 5: one of the least penalized, and I.

2418
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 3: Didn't see any outrageous things that weren't called.

2419
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:40,639
Speaker 5: No, the game somehow managed to unfold and anarchy didn't

2420
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:43,559
Speaker 5: ensue because they didn't call a penalty on every play.

2421
01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 7: Scott wants to know, simply, where are the screens? Where

2422
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:50,720
Speaker 7: are the screens for the Patriots?

2423
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:53,080
Speaker 5: They run some screens, they don't run them very well,

2424
01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 5: say do you watch? Yeah, they tried a couple every week.

2425
01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:00,640
Speaker 9: They did run a good one down field screen, but

2426
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 9: they ran when they got nineteen yards on their opening drive,

2427
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 9: they kind of put west over, they flexed west over out,

2428
01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:09,360
Speaker 9: and they ran a little swing pass to Henderson that

2429
01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 9: essentially is a screen. It gets thrown.

2430
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 5: They tried another one to Henderson in the red zone

2431
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 5: that got blown up for like a yard. They tried

2432
01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 5: another one that almost ended up in a pick six,

2433
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 5: and luckily Will Campbell was bothering Jalen Walker in mouth.

2434
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:23,599
Speaker 9: See I didn't like that throw.

2435
01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:25,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh, that was a terrible throw. That was one

2436
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 6: of the shaky Drake throws.

2437
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:29,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, you can't make that, Tim, and Boston writes in

2438
01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:32,680
Speaker 7: he says, I'm okay with some of the sacks when

2439
01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 7: the first few reads aren't there. Drake often tries to

2440
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:37,280
Speaker 7: go straight through the middle of the lineup field, and

2441
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,080
Speaker 7: he's taking quite a few sacks where he gets caught

2442
01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 7: from behind and falls forward for a loss of a

2443
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 7: few yards. I'm okay with this particular type of sack

2444
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 7: because when they don't catch him, he can usually turn

2445
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 7: it into a first down run. The sacks where he

2446
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:53,519
Speaker 7: holds it for too long or a problem, and I'd

2447
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 7: rather see him throw it away or try to run.

2448
01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know. I've already said my piece on

2449
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,920
Speaker 9: the sacks. I want to see him play quarterback.

2450
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:03,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like in general, I like to throw away.

2451
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:05,840
Speaker 4: That's what was most exciting about, you know, a few

2452
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:07,439
Speaker 4: games ago, when it really felt like it was all

2453
01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 4: clicking and he was making through the progressions and he

2454
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 4: wasn't so quick to bail and you know, that to

2455
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 4: me was the biggest positive sign.

2456
01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 1: Hopefully he came back to it.

2457
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 5: If it's third down and you got to make a play,

2458
01:50:16,640 --> 01:50:18,719
Speaker 5: and you try to make a play and you get sacked, okay,

2459
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 5: first down, just throw it away. Yeah, I don't need

2460
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 5: you to take out unnecessary hits to set up second

2461
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 5: and twelve.

2462
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 4: Is this one of those things too, where it's because

2463
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 4: Drake knows he's athletic, it's harder for him to do

2464
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:29,800
Speaker 4: the Brady thing where it's like, oh, this is dead,

2465
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 4: I'm just dropping.

2466
01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 6: He keeps saying that.

2467
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:33,600
Speaker 5: Now, he keeps saying, I have to remember that this

2468
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 5: is the NFL and I can't outrun all of these

2469
01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 5: guys like I did in college. He has said that

2470
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:42,320
Speaker 5: several times over the last same month, some some like

2471
01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:43,280
Speaker 5: variation of that.

2472
01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 9: If there weren't open receivers, like I wouldn't be as

2473
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 9: harsh on him about it, Like there's just too much

2474
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:51,719
Speaker 9: the tape is a tape, Like there's just guys open

2475
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 9: that he's passing up to try to run.

2476
01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 3: Joe and Michigan.

2477
01:50:55,479 --> 01:50:58,599
Speaker 7: On this point, May not seeing a wide open receiver

2478
01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 7: is way too critical in my opinion. On any given play,

2479
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:04,799
Speaker 7: quarterback will not see all there is to see, especially

2480
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 7: one who knows his O line can hold up for

2481
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 7: only so long. Patriots oline is too porous in spots

2482
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:13,760
Speaker 7: to give May and McDaniels any other option than get

2483
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,640
Speaker 7: the ball rid of the ball quickly. When in the

2484
01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:19,559
Speaker 7: rare occasion this kid has a good pocket, he simply

2485
01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:21,880
Speaker 7: does not miss I just like.

2486
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:25,120
Speaker 9: I'm sorry, but like like I'm not asking him to

2487
01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 9: go through to the fifth read in the progression, Like

2488
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:30,800
Speaker 9: if you have one to two, I can't ask him

2489
01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:34,120
Speaker 9: to go one to two. Like is he in high school?

2490
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:37,800
Speaker 9: Like we're talking about an NFL quarterback, Like if we're

2491
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:39,679
Speaker 9: not talking about they take.

2492
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:40,559
Speaker 6: Long like nine.

2493
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 1: Look at this guy way over here, he's.

2494
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 9: Won right right, Like we're not we're not talking about

2495
01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 9: the Madden thing where it's like press B, press B, No,

2496
01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:52,480
Speaker 9: like we're talking about progressions and quarterbacks going through progressions.

2497
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 9: Like I understand that we can't like ever come at

2498
01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:59,439
Speaker 9: Drake at for anything, but it's just like I want

2499
01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:03,120
Speaker 9: to see him, you know, get better at these types

2500
01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:05,799
Speaker 9: of things. And I just think that for the large

2501
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 9: part of the last two or three games at least,

2502
01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:10,320
Speaker 9: that we keep talking about the same thing.

2503
01:52:10,439 --> 01:52:12,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the bottom line for me. And I said

2504
01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:13,920
Speaker 4: it on our show. He took thirty four sacks last

2505
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 4: year and whatever it was nine games. He's there in

2506
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 4: thirteen games, he's taken thirty four sacks already. So it's

2507
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 4: just he's getting hit too much, like and whatever it

2508
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 4: is going through progressions or you know, knowing when to

2509
01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:26,760
Speaker 4: just hit the turf and live to fight another day.

2510
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:29,560
Speaker 1: Those are things to preserve him over the course of,

2511
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, an entire seventeen game plus playoff season.

2512
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:35,200
Speaker 9: Like I'm not gonna win. The crossing routes wide open

2513
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 9: right in front of him and he passes it up

2514
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 9: and takes a sack Like that's I'm sorry, I'm not

2515
01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:42,599
Speaker 9: gonna say. You know, Oh, well, there's a million things

2516
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:45,200
Speaker 9: going yeah, Like it's the NFL quarterback play, Like there's

2517
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 9: the muddy pocket. It's things they're moving. Fact that stood

2518
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:48,559
Speaker 9: out to.

2519
01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 4: Me about the Digs thing was like, you know, we

2520
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:51,720
Speaker 4: were watching it and it was like you could just

2521
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:54,360
Speaker 4: tell pre snap like yeah, dis is just gonna run

2522
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:56,040
Speaker 4: a little slant. He's gonna be wide open right here,

2523
01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:57,519
Speaker 4: and you know it's like and then he takes a

2524
01:52:57,560 --> 01:52:58,479
Speaker 4: sack and you're like, damn.

2525
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:00,120
Speaker 1: It was there like even we you know, I know

2526
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:01,639
Speaker 1: where yeah.

2527
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:07,680
Speaker 3: Uh, someone thinks Matt Judan would be perfect for what

2528
01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 3: we need.

2529
01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:09,559
Speaker 9: Maybe three years ago.

2530
01:53:10,360 --> 01:53:13,000
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I mean, I just this,

2531
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's different.

2532
01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 3: Let's see Paul in the colony.

2533
01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:20,600
Speaker 7: Please tell Paul and his brother to stop saying that

2534
01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 7: guy intentionally struck their suv. Intentional acts of violence are

2535
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:27,680
Speaker 7: not covered by insurance. Random acts of stupidity are.

2536
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:32,760
Speaker 6: It is being covered by insurance. And it was intentional.

2537
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:37,280
Speaker 5: And the cop informed my brother that saying that he could.

2538
01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 3: File charges.

2539
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 9: That's right, it's a salt.

2540
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, now we're not going to do that.

2541
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:44,720
Speaker 1: Why not?

2542
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:48,559
Speaker 5: I had already told you fear, don't.

2543
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 1: Be afraid, Paul sue.

2544
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:55,639
Speaker 5: Everybody'll sue you. Do you own a piece he drove

2545
01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:57,240
Speaker 5: his do you think the answer to that is, I

2546
01:53:57,280 --> 01:54:00,080
Speaker 5: don't know. What do you think the odds are of

2547
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 5: me peeing myself if I held a piece or just

2548
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:03,880
Speaker 5: not holding a piece.

2549
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:11,640
Speaker 6: I'm a lover, not a fighter. I leave that to

2550
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:12,120
Speaker 6: my son.

2551
01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:14,599
Speaker 1: But Rich was like, open the glove compartment.

2552
01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:17,960
Speaker 5: I'm driving, Rich, what is this?

2553
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:19,920
Speaker 1: Rich?

2554
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 5: We're going after this guy?

2555
01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:26,719
Speaker 9: I've seen you angry before.

2556
01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:30,639
Speaker 5: I've been in a fight since like the third grade. Wow,

2557
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 5: probably high school.

2558
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 9: I heard one of the old Patriot fight away.

2559
01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:40,720
Speaker 6: That's true, But I don't think the other guy thought

2560
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:41,240
Speaker 6: we were fighting.

2561
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:43,680
Speaker 5: He was too drunk.

2562
01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:44,840
Speaker 3: Is that the story is?

2563
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 21: Not?

2564
01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 6: My brother told me, but my brother was.

2565
01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:53,720
Speaker 5: That's the comment. The common Denominator and all of these

2566
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:57,880
Speaker 5: Rich's present. Don't punch up. You're fighting against gravity pulling

2567
01:54:57,960 --> 01:54:58,879
Speaker 5: down and will punch.

2568
01:54:58,760 --> 01:54:59,200
Speaker 6: Down on it.

2569
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:04,720
Speaker 7: Brother, brother, That's what they taught Anakin. Always take the

2570
01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:06,040
Speaker 7: high point in a fight.

2571
01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:07,720
Speaker 1: I mean Toddham is putting it lightly.

2572
01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 9: I have the high ground.

2573
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:10,920
Speaker 1: You learned that lesson by losing his legs.

2574
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 9: That's right.

2575
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:16,840
Speaker 7: That one Boston fans says positives. We played the Jets

2576
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:20,040
Speaker 7: twice without sauce. Now negatives. The Jets have two first

2577
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 7: round picks to build upon positive.

2578
01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 3: It's the Jets.

2579
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 11: The Jets.

2580
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,440
Speaker 1: You guys saw they got ad Mitchell two first.

2581
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:34,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, so nothing get rid of h. Wilson, all right,

2582
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 7: that I didn't see that. Sorry, Mark, we'll go right

2583
01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 7: to you now. Mark's in Connecticut.

2584
01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:45,320
Speaker 3: Hey, Mark, Oh, thanks for taking my call.

2585
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:47,760
Speaker 19: I don't know if you guys talked about this earlier,

2586
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:51,320
Speaker 19: but what a joke of the Atlanta Falcons accusing us

2587
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:56,160
Speaker 19: of clapping during the last snap. I mean, I've looked

2588
01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:59,040
Speaker 19: at display, Evan. I've looked at display several several times,

2589
01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:03,320
Speaker 19: and I have not seen anybody on the Defense clap.

2590
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 19: And I just wanted to get your guys' take. Did

2591
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:07,400
Speaker 19: you guys see anybody clapp.

2592
01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:10,440
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, Jayalen Hawkins clap, but he was clapping at

2593
01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:13,280
Speaker 7: Davis to get his attention. And Evan, I think if

2594
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:16,320
Speaker 7: you rewind the show, or if you didn't catch it, Mark,

2595
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:20,360
Speaker 7: earlier in the show, Evan explained it. I think you know,

2596
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:22,680
Speaker 7: he doesn't know for a fact one hundred percent, but

2597
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:25,280
Speaker 7: I think what he says makes perfect sense as to

2598
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:26,280
Speaker 7: what transpired.

2599
01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 3: And that's why everybody moved except for the right guard.

2600
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:32,240
Speaker 5: And that's why Raheem Morris backtracked because he probably watched

2601
01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:34,440
Speaker 5: the same thing and said, that's ridiculous. There's no reason

2602
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 5: why you would snap the ball because of that clapping, right.

2603
01:56:38,240 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 6: I think that's why the coach Rahie Morris.

2604
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 7: Was just being told by his players. He repeated it

2605
01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:47,400
Speaker 7: after further review. Like Paul said, he backtracked.

2606
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:49,440
Speaker 5: That wouldn't be surprised if he actually called.

2607
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:51,760
Speaker 1: Mark, I agree with you.

2608
01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 7: They're all against it us. Everybody hates us, the networks,

2609
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:59,120
Speaker 7: the other teams. They don't want us to be back.

2610
01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 7: That's why they're not doing a deal with us today.

2611
01:57:01,720 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 7: No one wants to help us.

2612
01:57:03,320 --> 01:57:03,800
Speaker 3: I get it.

2613
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 1: But don't worry about this one. Don't worry about this one.

2614
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 14: You know, she's upset, she's all but hurt.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that's you.

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Speaker 9: Don't be upset about this, right, Mark, good last call?

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Speaker 3: I love it all right.

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Speaker 7: That's going to be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 7: We'll be back tomorrow at noon. Catch twenty two tomorrow

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Speaker 7: at ten. Yes, Barth okay, Barth's okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 7: Is he thinking about Super Bowl yet and whether or

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Speaker 7: not he'll be able to go down, he's over to

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Speaker 7: Santa Clara.

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Speaker 9: He's he's more sad about Panix, I would say, because

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Speaker 9: that's right now he's all in on Penis. But no,

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Speaker 9: he's he's good, he's doing great. Okay, very busy.

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll see you tomorrow. Hey, this is Alex.

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Speaker 9: Thanks for tuning into the show.

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