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Speaker 1: The clip that opened this episode was, of course, from

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Speaker 1: host and writer of I Am Kobe, This podcast project

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Speaker 1: The Rise Kobe Bryant and the Pursuit of Immortality. If

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Speaker 1: Shack Clin signs up and create yourself. They're nice and

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Speaker 1: ain't go on create yourself. Gotta learn from the great minds. No,

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