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Speaker 1: This just in winning his fun. Welcome Bird Gang, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to yet another victory Monday. On today's show, Paul calvc

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Speaker 1: joins me. The Cardinals ran their winning streak to four,

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Speaker 1: and much like last week, the game wasn't all that close.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into it. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode eight eighteen,

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Speaker 1: and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Who to Baker?

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Speaker 1: What Heart?

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Speaker 4: What rent?

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Speaker 1: This guy's unbelievable?

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Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five.

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Speaker 3: He's it again.

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Speaker 1: Some more Hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craigcriolu.

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Speaker 1: So I certainly don't want to speak for you, Paul,

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Speaker 1: but I can get used to this, and it's been

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Speaker 1: a little while since the Cardinals have been on a

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Speaker 1: roll like this. So I ask you, how are you

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Speaker 1: feeling on this victory Monday?

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you I think I have some breaking news.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of victory, I just wandered within vicinity of the

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Speaker 3: Cardinals offensive line room. The door was open, and the

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Speaker 3: smells the wonderful smell. I want everyone to think about

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Speaker 3: when you go first time as a kid, you went

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Speaker 3: to a baseball game and you could smell the hot dogs. Yes,

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Speaker 3: victory hot dogs. Really, I'm guessing based on the smells

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Speaker 3: over there are being served as we speak for the

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Speaker 3: second straight week now. I don't know if this has

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Speaker 3: been a tradition all year long. All I know is

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Speaker 3: that Paris Johnson Junior shared with the media after the

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Speaker 3: Chicago Bears win that the old line Monday enjoyed their

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Speaker 3: quote victory hot dogs, and then they buried the Bears

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Speaker 3: game and they moved on to the Jets. Well, here

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Speaker 3: you are, the Cardinals having a workday before the bye

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Speaker 3: week sets in, and and based on what I just experienced,

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Speaker 3: what's wafting through the airwaves? Victory hot dogs? All right?

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Speaker 1: Boiled or grilled?

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Speaker 3: Do we know that it did smell like boiled?

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Speaker 1: More like the ballpark? You know, gotchas.

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Speaker 3: That's that's That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking, you know,

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Speaker 3: Wrigley Field and the smell of the hot dogs. And

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Speaker 3: you know the only thing missing was the cracker Jackson.

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Speaker 3: They take me out to the ball game.

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Speaker 1: This is I had not heard about this, or even

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Speaker 1: Is this do we think, let's kind of dive into

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Speaker 1: this a little bit here, do we think this is

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Speaker 3: Okay. So, and this is my guess. It may have

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Speaker 3: started earlier in the year with Big Will Hernandez mandating

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Speaker 3: who by the way, Christian Jones, you didn't hear this

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Speaker 3: So I'm not sure who's responsible for it, who requested

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Speaker 3: it slash mandated Calvin Beachum, obviously the grand poohba of

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Speaker 3: So it very well could be, But easily it could

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Speaker 1: There's nothing better than a ballpark hot dog as long

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Speaker 3: Right, or maybe you know's what's that? What's that smell like?

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Speaker 3: What does that taste like? That tastes like victory hot dog?

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Speaker 1: Thirty one to six, the Cardinals ground the Jets. They

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Speaker 1: are now six and four. Talking about the Cardinals, four

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Speaker 3: You know what, Kyler's just slowed himself down a little bit,

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Speaker 3: I tell you what, it's defied any sort of tendencies.

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Speaker 1: Kyler finished twenty two of twenty four seven different pass

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Speaker 1: And this is good news for everyone. This is good

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Speaker 3: got some dudes on that team, and what a what

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Speaker 3: an absolute underperforming, underachieving outfit.

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Speaker 1: I'll leave it there. Yeah, quite the opposite what we're

436
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Speaker 1: seeing from the Cardinals. Ten games into the season. You

437
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Speaker 1: brought up Drew Petsing, and I want to share part

438
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Speaker 1: of your postgame conversation with center Yield to Fold again.

439
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Speaker 1: It goes back to how we began here on Cardinals

440
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Speaker 1: Cover two. Nothing happens unless that offensive line is doing

441
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Speaker 1: its job. And that was the conversation. As far as

442
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Speaker 1: this team for three straight weeks now twenty eight or

443
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Speaker 1: more points, and you asked Fold, what's been the difference.

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Speaker 4: I don't know exactly what to tell you. I mean,

445
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Speaker 4: I think every week's a new week, and I think

446
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Speaker 4: every week we just try to do everything we can

447
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Speaker 4: to get the most out of it. So we walked

448
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Speaker 4: into this week, you know, we got to take care

449
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Speaker 4: of the Jets, and we did so I'm happy with

450
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Speaker 4: all the boys. I think K one balled out, although

451
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Speaker 4: line took it upon ourselves say hey, we gotta keep

452
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Speaker 4: running the ball even though that's a really tough runt.

453
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Speaker 4: I gotta give credits to those guys, like, yeah, we

454
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Speaker 4: we have some excess, but that front seven is hard.

455
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Speaker 4: That's really hard to block. So I think all our

456
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Speaker 4: guys would just dialed in this week and ready to

457
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Speaker 4: take on a really hard challenge.

458
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Speaker 3: That just defense is top ten in a lot of categories.

459
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Speaker 3: When they had the blind side free hit on Kyler

460
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Speaker 3: and his helmet popped off, what sort of threshold moment

461
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Speaker 3: was that to finish that drive the way this offense did.

462
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they schemed us up. We didn't really

463
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Speaker 4: see it coming, so we went opposite and they got

464
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Speaker 4: a hit on him, and you know, he went right

465
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Speaker 4: back up, just put his handling on. Here was like, hey,

466
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Speaker 4: let's go score again. So you know, it's good to

467
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Speaker 4: see Kyler just screw it. Let's get up there, Let's

468
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Speaker 4: go score. And I don't care we just lost however

469
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Speaker 4: many yards we're gonna go converted. We're gonna go score.

470
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Speaker 4: So that was a lot of jews there because that

471
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Speaker 4: could have been easily a turning point. But everybody was like, hey,

472
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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. We might be back seven eight yards,

473
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Speaker 4: but might as well just get into some points.

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Speaker 3: So what do you have to say about your offensive

475
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Speaker 3: coordinator in the play? Can look looked like the Jets

476
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Speaker 3: were on their heels quite a bit today.

477
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I gotta give it to Drew. Drew

478
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 4: was just on fire today. I think he knew exactly

479
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Speaker 4: what the game plan was going in and he had

480
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Speaker 4: a good feel for what the Jets wanted to do,

481
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Speaker 4: and he just you know, that's what we do with

482
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Speaker 4: our offense. We give multiple looks and run everything out

483
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 4: of multiple looks. So I think you gotta give the

484
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Speaker 4: hands off to Drew and Drew Petzing and just just

485
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Speaker 4: call it a great game. So put us in position

486
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Speaker 4: to win. The boys still gotta, you know, make sure

487
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Speaker 4: we get our blocks done and gotta get all you know,

488
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Speaker 4: gotta do our assignment winner one on ones. But if

489
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Speaker 4: we're in a good position to do so, then it

490
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Speaker 4: makes it a lot easier. Yo, the four straight wins.

491
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Speaker 4: How locked in is this team right now? And where's

492
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Speaker 4: the team confidence level at right now? You know, it's

493
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Speaker 4: easy to sit here and be like, hey, want a

494
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Speaker 4: four game win streak, We're ahead of it. Whatever, but

495
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Speaker 4: we're taking one to take a one week at a time.

496
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Speaker 4: It's a great win to go up into bye week.

497
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Speaker 4: Gets a lot of enthusiasm, a lot of juice, you know,

498
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Speaker 4: not sitting here with a loss on you in the

499
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Speaker 4: back of your head like, oh no, we got to

500
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Speaker 4: come back and do our best and whatever. So I'm

501
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Speaker 4: happy with what the guys are doing, you know, We're

502
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Speaker 4: taking one week at a time, even when we got

503
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Speaker 4: the early losses in the season, just next game mentality.

504
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Speaker 4: So it's gonna be the same thing when we head

505
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Speaker 4: in there in a couple of weeks, a couple of weeks,

506
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Speaker 4: we come back and next game mentality.

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Speaker 1: All right before you and I, Paul can enjoy the

508
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Speaker 1: bye week, which the players will beginning on Tuesday, and

509
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Speaker 1: much deserved as well, considering they've been going non stop

510
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Speaker 1: since the start art of training camp. But not that

511
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Speaker 1: we overlooked it. But this defense, this Cardinals defense. Yes,

512
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is the story and what he was able

513
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Speaker 1: to accomplish on Sunday, But I bought some love for

514
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Speaker 1: this defense. And I'll raise my hand first and foremost.

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Speaker 1: This was a game that I was worried about. I

516
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Speaker 1: was a little concerned. Anytime Aaron Rodgers is on a

517
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Speaker 1: football field, he gives you a chance. Yet, boy do

518
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Speaker 1: I look full this year on Monday morning looking back

519
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Speaker 1: at that because Aaron Rodgers was a complete non factor

520
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: and that Cardinals defense did whatever they wanted to do

521
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Speaker 1: as far as simplify things, rush blitz, throw the kitchen sink,

522
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Speaker 1: and it was whatever Nick rollis dialed up they were

523
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Speaker 1: able to get home on the Jets offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, Jonathan Gannon tell us after the game on

525
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Speaker 3: the radio side, we threw the bucket at him. And

526
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Speaker 3: it's interesting because you go into the gaming and I

527
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Speaker 3: talked to some players in the locker room. They said,

528
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Speaker 3: you know, guys who had gone against Aaron Rodgers before

529
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Speaker 3: and very familiar with him, and they said, you know what,

530
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Speaker 3: a lot of teams psyche themselves out of blitzing because

531
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Speaker 3: they're so worried. Oh no, he can discern and diagnose

532
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 3: and read and react immediately. Well, okay, it doesn't mean

533
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Speaker 3: he's gonna make the play, So you still have to

534
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Speaker 3: go down swinging, so to speak. And that's what the

535
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Speaker 3: Cardinals did. And he saw a little bit of everything,

536
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Speaker 3: Like Jonathan Gannon said, here's the kitchen sink and more.

537
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Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, guess what, another dozen

538
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Speaker 3: Cardinals players ended up with a QB pressure one week

539
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Speaker 3: after sixteen different Cardinals players ended up with a quarterback pressure.

540
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Speaker 3: So they're doing a great job, I think, and keeping

541
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Speaker 3: the front seven, especially those edge guys and the D

542
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Speaker 3: line guys fresh, so when they go out there they

543
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Speaker 3: can completely ball out, and you just see guys in

544
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Speaker 3: the sideline chomping at the bit to get out there,

545
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Speaker 3: and they know when they get out there, they better

546
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Speaker 3: be productive. Because one hallmark of Jonathan Gannon is in

547
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Speaker 3: the Monday meeting, win or lose, And I get the

548
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Speaker 3: sense even more after you win, he's calling guys out

549
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Speaker 3: for those loafs, calling guys out for what could have

550
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Speaker 3: been a better play, calling guys out for any mental errors.

551
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Speaker 3: And he's called out some big names, the best of

552
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 3: the best on this team in front of the rest

553
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Speaker 3: of the team. So they're just let's say, let's just

554
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Speaker 3: say that guys are locked in, guys are dialed in.

555
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Speaker 3: And then when you're able to do what you did

556
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Speaker 3: and hold them to a season low two hundred and

557
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 3: seven total yards season low one and fifty one yards passing,

558
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 3: you go three games in a row and three of

559
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 3: the best receiving rooms in the league and you're able

560
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Speaker 3: to stifle them. I mean, that's not a fluke. This

561
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Speaker 3: isn't just a hot streak. Once again, I just the

562
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Speaker 3: game planning and how they're going about it. And I

563
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Speaker 3: just see some young corners who who are are playing

564
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 3: tough and very aggressive and definitely exceeding my expectations going

565
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Speaker 3: into the year.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about it. Through ten games,

567
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Speaker 1: the biggest surprise, pleasant surprise, has been the defense. Again.

568
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Speaker 1: That is now three straight home games in which they

569
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Speaker 1: have not allowed a touchdown, they have gone ten or

570
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Speaker 1: they've gone back to back games with allowing fewer than

571
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Speaker 1: ten points, and they had not done that for fifty

572
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Speaker 1: two straight weeks dating back several seasons as far as

573
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Speaker 1: ten or fewer points in back to back games. So

574
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Speaker 1: this defense, and he brought it up going back to

575
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Speaker 1: our trade bentson conversation, these young players, whether they're rookies

576
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Speaker 1: or second year players now getting a little bit more

577
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: comfortable and more confidence. And whether that's Garrett Wilson not

578
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Speaker 1: a rookie, second year player but hasn't really played a

579
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Speaker 1: full season yet. And then Starling Thomas second year, undrafted

580
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Speaker 1: or I should say claimed, so he didn't really have

581
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Speaker 1: a full offseason until this past offseason. And Max Mountain

582
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: getting a lot more playing time. He was on the

583
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Speaker 1: field a lot in the second half, Sean Murphy Bunting

584
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: was not Now was that because of the score or whatever,

585
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Speaker 1: But you are seeing those three players now all of

586
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Speaker 1: a sudden, either in their first or second year, really

587
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Speaker 1: stand up to a lot of the elite wide receivers

588
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Speaker 1: the game.

589
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Speaker 3: So Jonathan Gannon on his weekly TV show Game Plan,

590
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Speaker 3: told us about going against Aaron Rodgers. One thing he

591
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: would be watching from the sideline when Aaron Rodgers hit

592
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 3: his back foot is the ball coming out? A lot

593
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 3: like toua. They're in a rhythm, precision passing game when

594
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 3: he takes his drop, and he'll change his drop based

595
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 3: on whether he senses pressure or not. Is the ball

596
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: coming out? Because if it's not coming out, that means

597
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: you're in coverage. That means you've disrupted the timing and

598
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: rhythm of the play. And so often Aaron Rodgers did

599
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: his three five seven step drops. Sometimes ball's not coming out,

600
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: he had to extend the play. Obviously, he does not

601
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: have the capability to do that nowhere near what the

602
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: Cardinals face the week before. In Caleb Williams, that's how

603
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: they will one of the reasons they got to him

604
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: for three sacks and a bunch of other quarterback pressures

605
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Speaker 3: and hits. So I think, ultimately and Gannon and Nick

606
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: Ross said that Aaron Rodgers probably more than any other

607
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Speaker 3: quarterback in the league. They're more familiar with him. So

608
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: are you gonna be able to get to him a lot? No,

609
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: because he gets rid of the ball a lah Tom

610
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: Brady and Peyton Manning late in their careers. He's a

611
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: do everything you can not to get hit, but you

612
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: can speed him up. And he definitely wasn't in sync

613
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Speaker 3: with his receivers. Even that final failed fourth down was

614
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Speaker 3: right in front of me as Aaron Rodgers was flushed

615
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: to the Cardinal's sideline, He's thrown back towards Garrett Wilson

616
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: near the goal line. They weren't on the same page.

617
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Speaker 3: And there's Aaron Rodgers with his palms up in the air,

618
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: like what the And you could just sense the frustration.

619
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Speaker 3: And so if that passing game isn't in sync, what

620
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Speaker 3: do you do? You speed it up so they even

621
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Speaker 3: have less time to figure it out. Cardinals got just

622
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 3: enough pressure on Aaron Rodgers. But it's a new phrase

623
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Speaker 3: that I've heard the last couple of weeks. I think

624
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: it was Nick Rollis who said it the first time.

625
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 3: Color on color, meaning your defensive backs are matched up,

626
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Speaker 3: there is hardly any separation, or they're in close proximity

627
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Speaker 3: to the wide receiver tied end or running back out

628
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Speaker 3: in space, and when that quarterback drops back, you're looking.

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Speaker 3: There's no one to throw too, all right, So you

630
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Speaker 3: buy a little bit more time, you're feeling the pressure,

631
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Speaker 3: You're still looking, and it still remains color on color,

632
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: meaning there is no separation for me to get for

633
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 3: me to throw the ball downfield. And we're seeing that certainly.

634
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Speaker 1: The last couple of weeks now was a rookie in

635
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, which is one thing, but to do it

636
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Speaker 1: against Aaron Rodgers, and you know that Jets offensive line

637
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: was a little banged up as well, but still it's

638
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. But he didn't have anywhere to throw the football.

639
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: No, and then this safety play. You know, Buddha Baker

640
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: having a career year. Buddha Baker really should be in

641
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: the mix for NFL Defensive Player of the Year. So

642
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: a quarterback's got to worry about Buddha Baker. Where is three?

643
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: Is he coming? Is he not coming? Where's he going?

644
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 3: Where will he be after I snapped the ball? And

645
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: then rabbit you talk about James Connor rubbing off on

646
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Speaker 3: Trey Benson. Are we in agreement that Buddha Baker's style

647
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Speaker 3: of play and Jalen Thompson's style of play hasn't rubbed

648
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Speaker 3: off on Dadrian Taylor Demerson. I mean, wow, right, he

649
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Speaker 3: has been a heat seeking missile at times, and so

650
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Speaker 3: he talked after the game about how he did not

651
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Speaker 3: want to be the weak link, and there was a

652
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Speaker 3: big red zone play where he was able to make

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Speaker 3: the play in the end zone and he knew Aaron

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Speaker 3: Rodgers was going to target the fourth round rookie, just

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Speaker 3: like we talked about in the pregame, and sure enough

656
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Speaker 3: it happened and he made the play. So once again,

657
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Speaker 3: you're not seeing these breakdowns mentally in the secondary, which

658
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Speaker 3: makes sense. It's JG's that's his position, cornerback. So if

659
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Speaker 3: you're looking at one position group that has really improved,

660
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Speaker 3: the most improved position group of the year would have

661
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Speaker 3: to be corner And whether it's just young guys finally

662
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 3: finding footing in the NFL, or it's the caliber of

663
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Speaker 3: coaching they're getting and how they're improving during a practice week,

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Speaker 3: either way, it has been. It has really been a

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Speaker 3: catalyst to this defense because it allows Nick Rawls to

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Speaker 3: dial up so much more when he can trust his corners.

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Speaker 1: We saw a lot from Rabbit in the preseason to

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Speaker 1: where we were intrigued on what he might be able

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Speaker 1: to do once the regular season began. The problem was

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Speaker 1: you had Buddha, he had JT. He was not going

671
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Speaker 1: to play over them. Now, what happened earlier this season,

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Speaker 1: Garrett Williams unavailable, so Rabbit gets some more playing time.

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Speaker 1: Happened Sunday. JT unavailable because of an ankle injury he

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Speaker 1: sustained on Thursday. Rabbit gets to start plays all fifty

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Speaker 1: eight snaps, has a couple of passes defense, and really

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Speaker 1: that pass defense on DeVante Adams probably should have been

677
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Speaker 1: an interception. But still bottom line is Aaron Rodgers was

678
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Speaker 1: looking for his guy and Rabbit was in the middle

679
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Speaker 1: of it to knock it down inside the red zone

680
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Speaker 1: to keep that TI or that touchdown scoreless touchdown streak

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Speaker 1: alive as far as not allowing one in the last

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Speaker 1: three straight home games.

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Speaker 3: And think about the game that they were coming off of.

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Speaker 3: They're coming off a win against Houston with a really

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Speaker 3: good secondary Stingley in company, really good pass rush, Demico

686
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Speaker 3: Ryans right coordinating as the head coach, and that defensive mastermind.

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Speaker 3: And in that game, DeVante Adams and Garrett Wilson both

688
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Speaker 3: had over ninety yards receiving, both had a touchdown. You know,

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Speaker 3: they really thought they found something than in that second

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Speaker 3: half win against Houston, three seventy plus yard touchdown drives

691
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Speaker 3: and not a single touchdown against the Cardinals when they

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Speaker 3: were the team with ten days of rest coming in.

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Speaker 3: So once again, it's the preparation. It's how sound the

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Speaker 3: Cardinals are. No longer are they beating themselves? This is

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Speaker 3: not This is not Week two, twenty twenty three where

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Speaker 3: you have a twenty eight to six lead and the

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Speaker 3: Giants and then everything implodes because a bunch of young

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Speaker 3: guys start making a bunch of errors and beating themselves.

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Speaker 3: This team is very locked in, very dialed in. And

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Speaker 3: to me, it goes back to accountability. It's guys being

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Speaker 3: held accountable. When they're culpable for certain things, you either

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Speaker 3: correct it or you're on the sideline. It's that simple.

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Speaker 1: Let's go full circle here. As far as I mentioned

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Speaker 1: at the top, off the top, odd how this was.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's been a little while and everyone points

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Speaker 1: to twenty twenty one, seven and oh ten and two

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Speaker 1: and then the bottom fell out. Well, that team didn't

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Speaker 1: deal with adversity. This Cardinals team in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: Paul has already dealt with adversity in the first month

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Speaker 1: of the season. They know what it takes. They know

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Speaker 1: how to overcome those mistakes, whether by them on their

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Speaker 1: own or they're just matched up against an opponent that

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Speaker 1: they just again, Washington, that was that particular week Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: All right, hats off to the Packers. But now sitting

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Speaker 1: at six and four, it's very hard as a fan

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Speaker 1: to look ahead figure out what's on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the bye week seven games, two of the first

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Speaker 1: three against Seattle, one on the road, and then the

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Speaker 1: one after the Minnesota game at home to where you're

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Speaker 1: sitting there going all right, six and four. At worst,

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Speaker 1: you go four and three over those final seven games.

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Speaker 1: That's a ten to wins season for the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: Here's where I become Paully, pump your brakes for those

724
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Speaker 3: are division games, yes, and you already beat the Niners.

725
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Speaker 3: They're out for blood and they have Christian McCaffrey back.

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Speaker 3: You already beat the Rams. You beat up and beat

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Speaker 3: down the Rams, and we know how sean how he

728
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: typically responds to that. And they've gotten a lot healthier,

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00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: and they figured a lot of things out. I saw

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Speaker 3: a defensive Rookie of the Year ranking recently that had

731
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Speaker 3: Jared Verse one and Brandon Fisk two. So they're young

732
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 3: guys are getting better for the Rams. And then you

733
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Speaker 3: have Stink in Seattle, and you never know what happens

734
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Speaker 3: against the Seahawks there here we know, so you know,

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00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: it's easy on paper to say, okay, and I'm guilty

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Speaker 3: of it.

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Speaker 1: Jeez.

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Speaker 3: The Cardinal's played the toughest schedule all of the first

739
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Speaker 3: eight or nine games, and now it's one of the easiest. Well, okay,

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Speaker 3: with these division games, you never quite know. For example,

741
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 3: the Saints came up and beat Atlanta. The division games,

742
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Speaker 3: you're never quite sure what you're going to get. That

743
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 3: combined with some road trips, we'll see how they they

744
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 3: had the stinker in Green Bay. Still no idea why

745
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: the energy wasn't where they wanted it in Green Bay.

746
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Speaker 3: So okay, but once again, if you can trust what

747
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Speaker 3: you have, and now these young guys, and this is

748
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Speaker 3: the point he wanted to make to me. A lot

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Speaker 3: of it's the first and second year guys, the Xavier Thomases,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, think of all the other guys

751
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Speaker 3: who have come on. We named him Starling Thomas. You know,

752
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 3: a rabbit. I mean, think about a Trey Benson, Dante Stills,

753
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: think about all the guys from the last two draft

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Speaker 3: classes who are now vital, important cogs on this team.

755
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 3: Because you know, to me, that's that's where it's the

756
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 3: back end this roster that is now helping propel this

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00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 3: team to a four game winning streak because you could

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00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 3: always count on Kyler and Buddha and Kayser White and

759
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: James count are the four team captains. It's everyone else

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Speaker 3: elevating their game.

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Speaker 1: It's the other guys that you're not familiar with. The

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00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: no names if you will, and we mean that with

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Speaker 1: all kinds of respects. You didn't miss out on one

764
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Speaker 1: young player that I do want to give a shout

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Speaker 1: out because if I don't, I Phil, I'm gonna get

766
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: that tap on the shoulder from Ron Wolfley. I know

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Speaker 1: he doesn't show up in the stat sheet, Paul, but

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Speaker 1: what he is doing as far as past protection and

769
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Speaker 1: opening up lanes for everyone else, yes, well, I pay

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Speaker 1: attention to the line of scrimmage. Tip Ryman, yes, is

771
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: a beast, no doubt, and that is exactly why you

772
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Speaker 1: invest a third round pick and someone who might not

773
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: be involved as far as receptions are concerned, but he

774
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: is playing a ton and playing meaningful snaps and against

775
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: meaningful dudes. I mean, how many times did asan Retta

776
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: get locked up? Will McDonald get locked up? These are

777
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: some serious accomplished pass rushers. And for Tip Bryman then

778
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: to be a guy who's on the move, just like

779
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: a lot of the offensive line. You know, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of these offensive line analysts, and especially after the

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00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: Chicago game, Cardinals got a lot of love Yelda Froholdt

782
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: and the two guards right on the move and the

783
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Speaker 1: trapping and the polling, and I mean that's why we

784
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Speaker 1: started the interview with the older Frohld saying, look, your

785
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: name got called out two or three times. That doesn't

786
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Speaker 1: happen very often on our radio broadcast. Passion Wolf's citing

787
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Speaker 1: you as being out in space leading the way, and

788
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Speaker 1: Tip Riman is every bit of part of that as well.

789
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Speaker 1: When you're able to basically move the line of scrimmage

790
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Speaker 1: and you get a big dude with a head of

791
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: steam and then no wonder, James Conner and Trey Benson,

792
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Speaker 1: Amari de Murcattle getting to the second level untouched. Yeah,

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00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: it's impressive to watch the Arizona Cardinals line of scrimmage,

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00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: both sides, the offensive line and the defensive line, of

795
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Speaker 1: what they've been able to do during this four game

796
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Speaker 1: winning streak and again five of their last six since

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Speaker 1: a one and three start. All right, Paul, before we

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Speaker 1: say so long, and hey, you can head out on

799
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Speaker 1: your bye week. The Angry Bird Award for Week ten again,

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Speaker 1: as we've been saying now for several weeks, a number

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00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: of different options. Is it the big names? Is it

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00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: someone else that you would like to highlight, but certainly

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Speaker 1: offense defense when you shut down Aaron Rodgers in company. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of candidates for the Angry Bird Award.

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00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: Okay, So the Angry Bird Award goes to the player

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Speaker 3: who makes the most hilacious play or is just the

807
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: most hilacious player. And there's a lot of candidates for

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Speaker 3: this one. There's note about it. I mean, Buddha could

809
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: win it every week, okay, but he doesn't. I'm gonna

810
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Speaker 3: go for a guy who just showed so well and

811
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Speaker 3: we hadn't really seen it today like we did in

812
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Speaker 3: this Jets win Trey Benson because he did run angry.

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00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: He really did, and once again the box score does

814
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Speaker 3: not do him justice. It's how he averaged over six

815
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Speaker 3: yards of care. It's how many tackles he broke, how

816
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Speaker 3: many dudes he ran through. It's how he turned it

817
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Speaker 3: up field and was willing to deliver a blow and

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Speaker 3: take the contact and then stay on his feet and

819
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Speaker 3: push the pile another two or three yards. It was

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Speaker 3: that style of running for a guy who we know

821
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Speaker 3: has home run hitting ability with a speed, and he

822
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Speaker 3: has the size. So all of a sudden, if he

823
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Speaker 3: can adopt that bully ball that mindset. When James Connor

824
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: on the sideline points to his head and says, it's

825
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: a mindset, guess what, Trey Benson gets the Angry Bird

826
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Speaker 3: Award because he is starting to adopt that exact mindset.

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Speaker 1: Plays angry but is not angry. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I've seen Trey Benson without a smile on his face

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Speaker 1: around the facility or in the locker room. He's having

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Speaker 1: fun being a professional football player.

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Speaker 3: If people only knew how some of these guys flip

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Speaker 3: the switch. Paris Johnson Junior. I mean, most affable, easy

833
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 3: going guy in the locker room during the week, Don't

834
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Speaker 3: get near him on game day. I'm just telling you

835
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Speaker 3: that right now. If you find yourself down to the sideline,

836
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Speaker 3: get out of the way of number seventy A tip Briman.

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Speaker 3: He's got his pottery wheel for Pete's sake. On game day,

838
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 3: he's ready to smash that pottery wheel over your head.

839
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Speaker 3: Trey Benson before and after. What he's like before and

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Speaker 3: during the game. It is remarkable this switch that a

841
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: lot of these guys flipped to become warriors, to become

842
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 3: modern day gladiators for three hours on a Sunday.

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Speaker 1: And that's why this bye week is so important, not

844
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Speaker 1: to get away, but to just give themselves a break mentally,

845
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Speaker 1: yes physically, of course, and then come off that bye

846
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Speaker 1: week with a seven game gauntlet trying to maintain that

847
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Speaker 1: first place standing in the NFC West. Paul, you got

848
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: bye week plans or is it no days off for

849
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Speaker 1: you during the bye.

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Speaker 3: You know, I wish I could say I'm Bill Belichick. Okay,

851
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 3: it's the it's the absence of having to be on deadline.

852
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 3: That is really the gift that keeps on giving. Okay,

853
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: that and the fact that we can say for the

854
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: next two weeks first place Cardinals going into play the

855
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 3: last place Seahawks. I just rejoice in that. Go get

856
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: yourself a hot dog if they're still available. In offensive line,

857
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 3: I'm going to stick my head in there. Hey, guys,

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00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: you got any hot dogs left? You know? No, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't dare believe me.

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Speaker 1: On that note, we'll put a lid on this edition

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Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hyundai probably partner the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive producer

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Speaker 1: Jim Mama Hundre, our associate producer Cuddy Fincher. For Paul Calvic,

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Speaker 1: I'm Craig Rayal Lou. We'll talk to you next time

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Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two,