WEBVTT - REPLAY: An Angelic Troublemaker

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<v Speaker 1>It's a hot summer day in August. A crowd of

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<v Speaker 1>more than two hundred thousand people is gathered before the

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<v Speaker 1>Lincoln Memorial in Washington, d C. You know the story,

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<v Speaker 1>You definitely know the speech. I have a dream. But

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<v Speaker 1>one day this nation will rise up, live out the

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<v Speaker 1>true meaning of its screen. But do you know the

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<v Speaker 1>man responsible for putting Martin Luther King Jr. Behind that podium,

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<v Speaker 1>the man who organized the march on Washington. You can

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<v Speaker 1>see him in video footage of the historic moment. He

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<v Speaker 1>is standing on Dr King's right, and you can even

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<v Speaker 1>hear him bellowing his approval when King reaches the end

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<v Speaker 1>of his famous speech, Free at last, Free at last,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank God a matter. The man next to Dr King

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<v Speaker 1>is Byard rust As we learned an episode one, Rustin

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<v Speaker 1>first came to King's aid during the Montgomery bus boycott.

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<v Speaker 1>The Quaker activist was King's mentor, and it was Rustin,

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<v Speaker 1>not King, who many fellow activists looked too early on

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<v Speaker 1>at the potential father of the civil rights movement. Bayard

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<v Speaker 1>Rustin was a master strategist, a tireless organizer, and an

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<v Speaker 1>outright force of nature in the civil rights movement and

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<v Speaker 1>more than any other person. He was responsible for injecting

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<v Speaker 1>non violent protest into the black freedom struggle. So why

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<v Speaker 1>have so many of us never heard of him? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Rustin was not only a black man, he was a

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<v Speaker 1>gay man as well, and in twentieth century America, those

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<v Speaker 1>two facts would prove too difficult for even a man

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<v Speaker 1>as talented as Rustin to fully overcome. You don't off

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<v Speaker 1>to ride Jim Kow. No, you don't have to ride

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Kroll on June the Third High Court said when

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<v Speaker 1>you ride in the state Jim Crow is dead. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to ride Jim. I'm Sean braswell, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is the thread. This season, we are pulling the thread

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<v Speaker 1>on a powerful and revolutionary idea, non violent resistance. An

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<v Speaker 1>episode one, we saw how a young Martin Luther King Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>Elevated the U s Civil rights movement using non violence.

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<v Speaker 1>In this episode, we pull back the curtain on Bayard Rustin,

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<v Speaker 1>the man who helped King to take up the banner

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<v Speaker 1>of non violence in the first place. Byrd, Rustin's life

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<v Speaker 1>teaches us that sometimes it is the people that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't learn about in history class that make the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>impact on our lives. If you're joining us for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, we encourage you to go back and listen

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<v Speaker 1>to episode one, when United Action turns the tide and

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<v Speaker 1>black and white sit side by side. Oh, someday we

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<v Speaker 1>will be. In nineteen fifty six, Martin Luther King Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>With the help of Buyard Rustin, unveiled a new weapon

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<v Speaker 1>to combat racial injustice in the United States. For several

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<v Speaker 1>weeks now, were the nigrot citizens of Montgomery have been

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<v Speaker 1>involved in a non violent protest against the injustices which

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<v Speaker 1>we have experienced on the buses a number of years.

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<v Speaker 1>Rust And discussed the effect of the Montgomery boycott in

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<v Speaker 1>a nineteen seventy nine interview. Oh. I think if there

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<v Speaker 1>had been any violence at all, they were prepared to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with that. But they could not deal with were

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<v Speaker 1>people who were not being violent, and there was a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of moral geoujitsu going on, a moral rustling, and

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't know how to put their hands on us

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<v Speaker 1>because it was so intensely non violent. This is Rustin.

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<v Speaker 1>Biographer John demilio I interviewed many of the pacifists who

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<v Speaker 1>worked with Rustin in the nineteen forties and early fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>and at some point. In almost every interview I did,

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<v Speaker 1>each one of them would say some equivalent to we

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<v Speaker 1>thought he would be the American Gandhi. Now think about that,

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<v Speaker 1>Think about what that means about how powerful they perceived

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<v Speaker 1>Rustin to be as a model of non violent activism.

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<v Speaker 1>Every fiber in Rustin's being was dedicated to the principles

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<v Speaker 1>of non violence, and more than any other person, he

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<v Speaker 1>was the one responsible for launching King's famous dream. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>Rustin makes no more than a cameo appearance in most

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<v Speaker 1>history books about the time. This is civil rights leader

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<v Speaker 1>Timothy Jenkins, who knew Rustin personally. No, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that the that the virusors historically fully appreciated for his importance,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think that he was appreciated fully at

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<v Speaker 1>it when he was alive. Rustin actually had an experience

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<v Speaker 1>similar to Rosa Parks on a segregated bus thirteen years

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<v Speaker 1>before he joined King in Montgomery. John Damilo explains he's

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<v Speaker 1>traveling to the South and on a bus in Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>He refuses to go to the back and puts himself

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<v Speaker 1>in the front of the bus, where he is sitting

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<v Speaker 1>next to white passengers in rows reserved for Whites. The

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<v Speaker 1>bus driver calls the police. Soon rest In here sirens.

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<v Speaker 1>Four police officers board the bus and approach Rustin. He

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<v Speaker 1>patiently explains to them that he has a right to

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<v Speaker 1>sit there. He points to a young white child sitting

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<v Speaker 1>nearby and says that if he moves to the back

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<v Speaker 1>of the bus, he will be quote depriving that child

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<v Speaker 1>of the knowledge that there is an injustice here. The

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<v Speaker 1>officers dragged Rustin from the bus. The police start beating him.

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<v Speaker 1>Rustin doesn't defend himself. Rustin, a tall, thirty year old

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<v Speaker 1>black man, extends his arms parallel to the ground. As

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<v Speaker 1>the officers begin to hit him with their clubs. He

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<v Speaker 1>tells them there's no need to beat him. He is

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<v Speaker 1>not resisting. When they take him to the police station,

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<v Speaker 1>there is more physical assault. The hallway leading to the

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<v Speaker 1>police captain's office is lined with officers on both sides.

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<v Speaker 1>Rustin is tossed from one to another. He endures more blows.

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<v Speaker 1>His clothes are ripped, and he doesn't resist. Rustin is

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<v Speaker 1>then taken into the captain's office, where he calmly asks,

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<v Speaker 1>what can I do for you? The angry captain leans

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<v Speaker 1>in and yells at Rustin quote, You're supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>scared when you come in here, but buyared. Rustin wasn't scared.

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<v Speaker 1>At times, he was utterly fearless. Rustin's commitment to non

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<v Speaker 1>violence was total and complete. It wasn't simply a political

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<v Speaker 1>tactic that he used in a dem instration. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the way he intended to live his life, and he

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<v Speaker 1>expected himself too. And there are many instances in Rustin's

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<v Speaker 1>life where uh confronted with beatings by police or demonstrators.

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<v Speaker 1>He never fought back. Take this incident at a demonstration

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen one, Rustin was attacked with a stick by

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<v Speaker 1>an angry spectator. He picked up a stick of his own.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he handed his attack or the second stick and

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<v Speaker 1>asked him if he wanted to use both. The disoriented

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<v Speaker 1>man threw the two sticks down and stormed away. Rustin

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<v Speaker 1>explained the logic of his non violent approach in a

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<v Speaker 1>later interview. There are three ways to deal with injustice.

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<v Speaker 1>One is to accept it slavishly, or one can insisted

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<v Speaker 1>with arms, or one can use non violence. The man

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<v Speaker 1>who believes in non violence is prepared to be harmed,

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<v Speaker 1>to be crushed, but he will never crush others Rustin

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in Westchester, Pennsylvania, which was very much a

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<v Speaker 1>Quaker town. It had been a stop on the underground

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<v Speaker 1>railroad in the nineteenth century. His grandmother, Julia, who raised him,

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<v Speaker 1>worked in the households of Quaker families, and so Quakerism

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<v Speaker 1>was a part of his life. Rustin was a good

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<v Speaker 1>athlete and a lover of the arts. He would often

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<v Speaker 1>recite classical poems allowed at school, even while at football practice.

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<v Speaker 1>In the late nineteen thirties, Rustin moved to New York.

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<v Speaker 1>He attended City College and paid his bills by singing

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<v Speaker 1>in Greenwich Village nightclubs. Then he landed his first real job.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually starts working for an organization called the Fellowship

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<v Speaker 1>of Reconciliation, which was um a pacifist organization whose membership

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<v Speaker 1>was mostly ministers committed to the philosophy and practice of

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<v Speaker 1>non islands. It's not a great time to be a

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<v Speaker 1>pacifist in the United States. The attack on Pearl Harbor

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<v Speaker 1>comes three months later. Most Americans rallied to support the

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<v Speaker 1>war effort. Rustin did not. I'm a Quaker, and as

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<v Speaker 1>everyone knows, Quakers for three years have on conscientious grounds

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<v Speaker 1>being against participating in the rule, but participation was mandatory,

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<v Speaker 1>so when he finally received the call uh to military service,

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<v Speaker 1>Rustin had made the decision that he was not going

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<v Speaker 1>to cooperate in any way with the military. Rustin was arrested.

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<v Speaker 1>He waived his right to trial, pled guilty, and received

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<v Speaker 1>a three year sentence. He was thirty one years old

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<v Speaker 1>when he entered Ashland Prison in Kentucky. He's classified almost

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<v Speaker 1>from the beginning as a notorious offender, which means that

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<v Speaker 1>are watching his every move. He's also a black man

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<v Speaker 1>in a primarily white movement going to a prison that

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<v Speaker 1>is racially segregated, and so Rustin, ever, the activist, is

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<v Speaker 1>now in federal prison, but is organizing prisoners to resist segregation.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to Rustin, the prison athletic program was soon integrated

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<v Speaker 1>and prisoners were allowed to move between the white and

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<v Speaker 1>colored sections of the prison. But not all of the

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<v Speaker 1>prisoners cared for Rustin's integration efforts. A number of the

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<v Speaker 1>prisoners are white Southerners themselves, and at a certain point

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<v Speaker 1>one of them is enraged at the way Rustin is

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<v Speaker 1>challenging segregation and goes after him with a stick. And

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<v Speaker 1>there are other people around and Rustin just puts his

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<v Speaker 1>hands up to try to protect his face from injury,

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<v Speaker 1>but doesn't resist in any way. When a fellow prisoners

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<v Speaker 1>try to protect him, he tells them no. Rustin's attacker

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<v Speaker 1>continued to rain violent blows on him, and again Rustin

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<v Speaker 1>calmly responded, you can't hurt me. The other prisoner received

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<v Speaker 1>no punishment for the incident. Rustin was disciplined by the warden.

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<v Speaker 1>His activism had not made him popular with prison officials.

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<v Speaker 1>They soon learned that the formidable organizer had an achilles heel,

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<v Speaker 1>at least given the time in which he lived. Rustin

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<v Speaker 1>is a gay man in an era where no one

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<v Speaker 1>accepts being gay, and the prison officials realized that they

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<v Speaker 1>can expose his sexuality, and they bring him up on

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<v Speaker 1>charges of sexual misconduct. Rustin's integration efforts came to a halt.

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<v Speaker 1>They put him in solid Harry confinement. It's a horrendous

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<v Speaker 1>experience for him. There are I found in the archives

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<v Speaker 1>two mug shots of Rustin. The first one, when he

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<v Speaker 1>arrives in prison. He looks so serene, as if you

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<v Speaker 1>can't do anything to me. The second one is taken

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<v Speaker 1>after he's been in isolation. For several months, and the

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<v Speaker 1>pain in his face is unmistakable. It was not the

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<v Speaker 1>last time in Rustin's life that his sexual orientation would

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<v Speaker 1>provoke such a response and derail his career. Buyard Rustin

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<v Speaker 1>was released from prison in nine and at that time

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<v Speaker 1>the U. S. Supreme Court handed down a decision holding

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<v Speaker 1>that segregation and interstate transportation was unconstitutional. Here was a

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<v Speaker 1>golden opportunity for Rustin to use non violence to test

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<v Speaker 1>the enforcement of the new law, and they create an

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<v Speaker 1>organization called CORE, the Congress of Racial Equality and so,

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<v Speaker 1>nearly fifteen years before the famous Freedom Writers hit the

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<v Speaker 1>road during the nineteen sixties, Rustin helped recruit a team

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<v Speaker 1>of fourteen men, divided equally by race, to ride in

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<v Speaker 1>pairs on buses throughout the South. Other black civil rights leaders,

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<v Speaker 1>including the Inn Double A. C. P, wanted no part

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<v Speaker 1>of the plan. The future Supreme Court Justice Third Good

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<v Speaker 1>Marshall told Rustin, you are insane to try this, just dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>Rustin knew the risks. His team endured twelve arrests and

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<v Speaker 1>numerous threats of violence along the way. In North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>four of the riders, including Rustin, were dragged from the

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<v Speaker 1>bus and arrested. Rustin would later serve time on a

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<v Speaker 1>chain gang as a result, but the organized acts of

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<v Speaker 1>non cooperation that Rustin and his team engaged in helped

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<v Speaker 1>lay the groundbook for future acts of non violent protests

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<v Speaker 1>during the civil rights movement of the nineteen fifties and sixties.

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<v Speaker 1>The journey was an important experiment um It also in

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<v Speaker 1>a sense demonstrated in that the country wasn't yet ready

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<v Speaker 1>or prepared to build a mass movement, and so it

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<v Speaker 1>became an example, a model of what you could do,

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<v Speaker 1>even if the impact wasn't dramatic. By the early nineteen fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>buyired Rustin was a reformer to be reckoned with, but

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<v Speaker 1>his sexual orientation continued to be a problem in the

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<v Speaker 1>activist community. Rustin never pretended to be a straight man,

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<v Speaker 1>but during the mid twentieth century in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>it was not safe to come out as a gay one.

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<v Speaker 1>One never knows when the homosexual is about. He may

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<v Speaker 1>appear normal, and it may be too late when you

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<v Speaker 1>discover he is mentally ill. So keep with your group

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<v Speaker 1>and don't go off alone with strangers unless you have

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<v Speaker 1>the permission of your parents or teacher. Every state in

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<v Speaker 1>the nation criminalized homosexual behavior at the time. This is

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<v Speaker 1>civil rights leader Timothy Jenkins. Again. One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that he felt he suffered was the double burden, or

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<v Speaker 1>as he sometimes so called it, the double cross of

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<v Speaker 1>being black and also being gay, and he appreciated that

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<v Speaker 1>the hostile forces on the question of race were also

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<v Speaker 1>hostile on the forces of sexual orientation, and uh he

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<v Speaker 1>felt that he was being discriminated against on both counts.

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<v Speaker 1>Such discrimination made it very difficult to have a social life.

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<v Speaker 1>John Damelio again also in those years, if you're gay

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<v Speaker 1>and the gay world is hidden and you're looking to

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<v Speaker 1>meet other gay men, you engage in what was called

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<v Speaker 1>at that time street cruising. And rust In, both as

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<v Speaker 1>a gay man and as a black man, was so

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<v Speaker 1>susceptible to the police, and a number of times in

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<v Speaker 1>the forties he was arrested for street cruising lewd conduct.

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<v Speaker 1>Then another incident occurred that would turn Rustin's world upside down.

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<v Speaker 1>In nine he's in California giving talks and meeting with

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<v Speaker 1>Quaker and Pacifist groups, and in the middle of the night,

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<v Speaker 1>the police in Pasadena find him in a parked car

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<v Speaker 1>with two white men and arrest all three of them

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<v Speaker 1>for performing lewd acts. Rustin's employers at the Fellowship of

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<v Speaker 1>Reconciliation punished him, so Rustin has let go. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not only a pacifist organization built on certain kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>moral principles, but as an organization primarily of ministers, and

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<v Speaker 1>here a key staff person has been arrested and convicted

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<v Speaker 1>of a rals charge. Rust And lost almost everything he had.

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<v Speaker 1>The man who had tried so hard to cast himself

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<v Speaker 1>as a principled activist had been branded a sex offender.

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<v Speaker 1>He has to suddenly start strategizing how to be an

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<v Speaker 1>activist who remains invisible to the public. It would take

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<v Speaker 1>rust In years to fight his way off the sidelines

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<v Speaker 1>of the civil rights struggle. Then in n he saw

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to get back in the game. That opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>with the bus boycott in Montgomery, Alabama, a young, dynamic

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<v Speaker 1>preacher named Martin Luther King started to appear on the

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<v Speaker 1>national news. It was clear to many of those in

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<v Speaker 1>the civil rights struggle that the boycott represented a turning point.

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<v Speaker 1>As word of the bus boycott travels north. For Rustin,

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<v Speaker 1>this is his dream. He's been waiting half of a

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<v Speaker 1>lifetime for something like the US to happen instead of

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<v Speaker 1>an action that five people engage in and get arrested

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<v Speaker 1>and that's it. A whole community is joining together to

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<v Speaker 1>resist racial segregation. Rustin and other Northern Pacifists were worried

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<v Speaker 1>that the black community in Montgomery might resort to violence.

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<v Speaker 1>After King's house was bombed, Rustin decided to go to

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<v Speaker 1>Montgomery to lend his support. This is King biographer David

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<v Speaker 1>Garrow now in nineteen fifty six. Being an uncloseted homosexual,

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<v Speaker 1>especially within Black America, made someone untouchable in many quarters,

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<v Speaker 1>and so even though Byared hastens to Montgomery to advise King,

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<v Speaker 1>others in New York are are worried whether those aspects

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<v Speaker 1>of Bayard's history might be used a enst him. Rustin,

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<v Speaker 1>who recognized these concerns, kept a low profile. He did

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<v Speaker 1>not go out after dark alone. He often consulted with

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<v Speaker 1>King over the phone. Rustin soon found himself at the

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<v Speaker 1>heart of one of the most significant protests in American history.

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<v Speaker 1>Rustin sees his key work as helping to develop doctor

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<v Speaker 1>King as a nationally recognized leader. In the years following Montgomery,

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<v Speaker 1>Rustin made himself indispensable to King and to the Civil

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<v Speaker 1>rights movement. Rustin remained behind the scenes, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>look closely, you could discern his hand almost everywhere. Rustin

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<v Speaker 1>became an advisor to King. He also introduced King to

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<v Speaker 1>Northern activists, labor leaders, and other prominent individuals who became

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<v Speaker 1>major financial supporters of the movement. Timothy Jenkins again, I

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<v Speaker 1>came to know by Rustin as a voice for passive

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<v Speaker 1>resistance in a very important way, And of course he

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<v Speaker 1>inspired much of the leadership that led to the political

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<v Speaker 1>revolution of the South to pursue the course of of

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<v Speaker 1>tactics as opposed to just the demonstrations. Rustin fought his

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<v Speaker 1>way back from the margins to shape the principles and

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<v Speaker 1>methods of the civil rights movement. Then came his biggest

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<v Speaker 1>test yet. Up next, the eyes of America and the

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<v Speaker 1>world turned to the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in

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<v Speaker 1>the summer of nineteen sixty three. The March on Washington

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<v Speaker 1>for Jobs and Freedom is the single most significant demonstration

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<v Speaker 1>in US history, the event that launched Dr King's famous dream.

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<v Speaker 1>The man who organized that march was by Ed Ruston,

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<v Speaker 1>but only after he survived the efforts of some of

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<v Speaker 1>the most powerful men in America to bring the march

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<v Speaker 1>to its knees um. Because of his sexual orientation and

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<v Speaker 1>criminal record, Buyard Rustin tried to coordinate the March on

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<v Speaker 1>Washington under the radar. It wasn't easy, and by early August,

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<v Speaker 1>just weeks before the march, his role became more public

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<v Speaker 1>and at one point even the Washington Post, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>actually describes him as Mr. March on Washington. And the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI does an investigation. It gathers whatever material it can

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<v Speaker 1>find on Rustin, including his arrest in Pasadena on sex charges,

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<v Speaker 1>and provides that information to Strom Thurmond, who is a

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<v Speaker 1>white segregationist senator from South Carolina. And Thurman gets up

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<v Speaker 1>more than once on the floor of the Senate and

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<v Speaker 1>reads into the Congressional record all of this condemning information

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<v Speaker 1>about Rustin. The attack did not have its intended effect.

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<v Speaker 1>Rustin's fellow civil rights leaders leaped to his defense. What's

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<v Speaker 1>so important about three in Rustin's life and the history

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<v Speaker 1>of non violence is that because the march was so

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<v Speaker 1>visible and so important this time, when Rustin is attacked

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<v Speaker 1>for his sexuality, all of the organizational leaders come together

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<v Speaker 1>and explicitly stand by him and defend him so that

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't lose his role as organizer of the march

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<v Speaker 1>on Washington. I remember about five thirty in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I was out on the mall and the press was

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding me, and I was saying, Mr Rust and Mr Rust,

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<v Speaker 1>and what's happening. You said, we're going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>quarter of a million people and are scarcely half doesn't here.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember taking out of my pocket a blank sheet

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<v Speaker 1>of paper and taking my watch out of the other pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at my watching the blank sheet of paper,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, just when everything is going according to

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<v Speaker 1>oil And I was terrified that people weren't going to

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<v Speaker 1>show up, but they did. It was an event like

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<v Speaker 1>the nation had never witnessed before. The crowd two fifty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people gathered on the mall, and they heard speeches

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<v Speaker 1>that were inspiring and sometimes they were rousing speeches as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Rusting himself addressed the massive crowd, magine that we have

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<v Speaker 1>effective civil rights legislation, no compromise, no Philip Uxter, and

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<v Speaker 1>that he didn't plude public accommodation. Din how it's a

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<v Speaker 1>greater education f f A PC and the like to vote.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you say but of course the main event

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<v Speaker 1>in the final speaker, thanks to Ruston's own plan, was

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<v Speaker 1>Martin Luther King. And it's just an astounding success. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course it gives Dr King an even more visible

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<v Speaker 1>platform to be a national leader. And there was not

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<v Speaker 1>a hint of violence anywhere. Rusting himself later summarized it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the single person was arrested in Washington that day. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the single person was drunk that day or picked up

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<v Speaker 1>for drunkenness. There were no major problems of any kind.

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<v Speaker 1>The march ended for me when we had finally made

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<v Speaker 1>sure we had not left one piece of paper, not

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<v Speaker 1>a cup, nothing, and buy ed. Rustin continued to fight

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<v Speaker 1>for justice in the decades ahead. In the nineteen eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of his life, he turned his attention

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<v Speaker 1>to gay rights through it all rest and consistently downplayed himself. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my role was a very simple role. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>role of saying that Martin Luther King, I have certain skills.

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<v Speaker 1>I have skills which are good at analyzing problems. I

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<v Speaker 1>have skills of the wood and planning and executing. I

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<v Speaker 1>do not consider myself a leader. I consider myself a

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<v Speaker 1>spokesman for a given point of view. Barack Obama awarded

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<v Speaker 1>Rustin the Presidential Medal of Freedom in fifty years after

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<v Speaker 1>the historic March on Washington. The White House has announced

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<v Speaker 1>it will posthumously award the highest civilian honor in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, a Presidential Medal of Freedom, to the trail

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<v Speaker 1>blazing civil rights active astpired Rustin. It was a fitting

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<v Speaker 1>honor for a man who gave so much to the

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<v Speaker 1>cause of freedom, working in the background, away from the headlines,

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<v Speaker 1>Rustin changed life for millions of people. Rustin's own outlook

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<v Speaker 1>and life, however, were largely shaped by another man, one

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<v Speaker 1>that he never met, but who also changed life for

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<v Speaker 1>millions of people on the other side of the globe.

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<v Speaker 1>During the nineteen twenties and thirties, the world grew captivated

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<v Speaker 1>by a small man in a loincloth taking on an

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<v Speaker 1>empire in India. It wasn't simply that Gandhi had a

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<v Speaker 1>personal commitment to non violence, but Gandhi was showing, at

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<v Speaker 1>least from a distance, that preaching and practicing non violence

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<v Speaker 1>could be a route to massive social change. Gandhi's commitment

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<v Speaker 1>and methods were a revelation for Rustin. He began a

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<v Speaker 1>lifelong campaign to introduce Gandhi's non violent tactic into the

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<v Speaker 1>struggle for racial justice in the United States. He finally

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<v Speaker 1>made it to India UH late forty eight, the very

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of forty nine, and unfortunately, when he finally did

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<v Speaker 1>make the trip, UH Gandhi had already passed away. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was a powerful trip for him, and if anything,

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<v Speaker 1>it increased the attractiveness of non violence as a route

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<v Speaker 1>to social change and political activism. Rustin traveled around India

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<v Speaker 1>for almost two months. He returned to the United States

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<v Speaker 1>and continued to preach Gandhian non violence to the black community.

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<v Speaker 1>Rustin liked to tell audiences that fighting injustice required quote

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<v Speaker 1>angelic troublemakers, Our power is in our ability to make

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<v Speaker 1>things unworkable. The only weapon we have is our bodies,

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<v Speaker 1>and we need to tuck them in places so wheels

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<v Speaker 1>don't turn. Eight years later, Buyed Rustin, the Ultimate Angelic Troublemaker,

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<v Speaker 1>put that principle into action, making sure that the wheels

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<v Speaker 1>did not turn in Montgomery, Alabama. Together, Rustin and Martin

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<v Speaker 1>Luther King Jr. Made things unworkable for those white leaders

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<v Speaker 1>in the South who wished to preserve a segregated society,

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<v Speaker 1>but the true ideological father of King and Rustin's nonviolent

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<v Speaker 1>movement was not Black or even America. In the next episode,

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<v Speaker 1>we journey to India and South Africa to explore the

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<v Speaker 1>remarkable life of Mahandas Gandhi, the man who proved that

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<v Speaker 1>non violence could achieve major political reforms and even take

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<v Speaker 1>down an entire empire. You don't have to ride him call. No,

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