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Speaker 1: Hello there, everybody, Welcome to tech Stuff. My name is
Speaker 1: Chris Bollette. I'm an editor here at how stuff works
Speaker 1: dot com and sitting next to me as always as
Speaker 1: senior writer Jonathan Strickland. Well that was quick. No, no,
Speaker 1: it's Hungarian for hello. Oh okay, I thought you were
Speaker 1: saying goodbye. Not yet, all right, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: kind of in a fog right now. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: today we have another one of our famous or soon
Speaker 1: to be famous listener mail round up jamborees. I think
Speaker 1: this would be number two, So let's get started, shall we. Sure? Right,
Speaker 1: So here's the first one. Hi, guys, currently listening to
Speaker 1: your April Fools podcast. So I'm so sorry this is
Speaker 1: ticket so long for me to get to great stuff.
Speaker 1: I think my favorite podcast so far was your two
Speaker 1: thousand eight Christmas Picks. I didn't see anything from this
Speaker 1: listener in my my stocking, but okay. Thanks. On a
Speaker 1: more serious note, I worked for a small coffee roaster
Speaker 1: in the Midwest, and I think we almost got involved
Speaker 1: in an online scam. Someone emailed a request asking if
Speaker 1: we shipped to South Korea and specified a freight company
Speaker 1: we should use for a quote. I did an internet
Speaker 1: search and found this person's name and email on a
Speaker 1: website highlighting online scams. I checked out how stuff works
Speaker 1: dot com. Excellent choice, and to scam the article on
Speaker 1: how online fraud alerts work, but didn't see anything about
Speaker 1: how to report potential scam activity. I went to the
Speaker 1: IC three website, but we didn't suffer a financial loss,
Speaker 1: so I didn't know if I should still fell out
Speaker 1: a complaint. Wow, I can't talk. Do you have any suggestions?
Speaker 1: Thanks for all your awesome informative podcasts. I've learned I'm
Speaker 1: a techie at heart. Sarah Well, Sarah, Yeah, we can
Speaker 1: give you some hints and some some tips. If you
Speaker 1: suspect that you've encountered an online fraud. UM. Actually, there
Speaker 1: are quite a few different opportunities you could take. It
Speaker 1: all depends on sort of the nature of what the
Speaker 1: fraud is. But your first assumption to go to i
Speaker 1: C three that's actually a pretty good one. I see
Speaker 1: three stands for the Internet Crime Complaint Center, and it's
Speaker 1: a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the
Speaker 1: National White Collar Crime Center, And uh, usually that's that's
Speaker 1: a pretty good source to go to if you need
Speaker 1: to report an online scam. Yeah, they're they're very specialized
Speaker 1: toward internet crime, as the name suggests UM, you know,
Speaker 1: unlike other eight agencies, so you know, it would be
Speaker 1: very helpful. They also have if you are interested in
Speaker 1: are not Sarah. They also have a lot of other
Speaker 1: scam information on the website. So even if you have
Speaker 1: not been specifically targeted, but are interested in scams, you
Speaker 1: can find a lot of information about different stuff that's
Speaker 1: going on right now, different styles of scams UM and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, specifics on what to do with regard to
Speaker 1: filling out a complaint. The thing is, if you haven't
Speaker 1: actually been scammed, it's kind of I don't know what
Speaker 1: they'll actually do if you feel like well, I mean,
Speaker 1: you can fill out a complaint and and theoretically they're
Speaker 1: going to investigate it, and if they find there's anything
Speaker 1: substantive there, then they will proceed. I don't think that
Speaker 1: you necessarily have to suffer a loss for them to
Speaker 1: be aware of it. I think it's better that you
Speaker 1: go ahead and say, you know, this is this is
Speaker 1: who I think is trying to defraud me. This is
Speaker 1: why I think that here is some supporting evidence. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you don't to just throw accusations around, right right.
Speaker 1: You have to send you have to send some information
Speaker 1: about who they are and what you think they were
Speaker 1: up to. And you know, if if you actually, um,
Speaker 1: you know, go ahead with it and send them information
Speaker 1: or send them money, they're gonna want to know exactly
Speaker 1: what you did and when it happened and all that information.
Speaker 1: Otherwise it's going to be very difficult for them to
Speaker 1: investigate it further. But you know, they're gonna want to
Speaker 1: know specifics, you know, in in as much detail as
Speaker 1: you can give them to them. That's true. And uh,
Speaker 1: if um, you know, if that seems like that's not
Speaker 1: the right course for you, I've got some other suggestions
Speaker 1: you can unn follow UM. If the business that you
Speaker 1: suspect is UH is committing fraud or the individual who's
Speaker 1: committing fraud is either in the United States or Canada,
Speaker 1: you can contact the Better Business Bureau UH. If it's
Speaker 1: outside of that, that's outside of their jurisdiction, so that
Speaker 1: would not work in that case. UH. Other opportunities you
Speaker 1: could You could contact the Federal Trade Commission. That's good
Speaker 1: for fraudulent emails or UM or fraudulent businesses UH, the
Speaker 1: Attorney General if it's a fraudulent business UM, there's UH.
Speaker 1: The e consumer dot gov website is a good place
Speaker 1: to go if it's an international company that you suspect
Speaker 1: is committing fraud UM. So that's of course one of
Speaker 1: the big problems with the Internet. You know, it's a
Speaker 1: global entity, so not all the the sites or all
Speaker 1: the companies are going to be found in the United States,
Speaker 1: which makes it a lot more difficult when you're like, well,
Speaker 1: how why can we even do about this if they're
Speaker 1: on the other side of the world. Can we even
Speaker 1: prosecute anything, you know, any sort of fraud UM. But
Speaker 1: you can go to like I said, E Consumer dot
Speaker 1: Gov and UH and at least report scams. If nothing
Speaker 1: else they can, they can raise awareness UM for phishing emails.
Speaker 1: You can use the the usd S SERT, which is
Speaker 1: the Computer Emergency Response Team website UH to report that.
Speaker 1: You can report fraud to the FBI. You know, this
Speaker 1: sounds like it's really kind of scary, spooky stuff, but
Speaker 1: really we're talking about people. People's lives can be ruined
Speaker 1: by fraud, and it happens all the time, and it's
Speaker 1: better to go ahead and report something than to stay
Speaker 1: quiet about and just hope that, you know, no one
Speaker 1: else gets hurt, Like, you know, we'll eat this loss
Speaker 1: and we'll just you know, we don't want to suffer
Speaker 1: the embarrassment of admitting that this happened, or you know,
Speaker 1: we don't want to go through the paperwork. That's really
Speaker 1: kind of irresponsible. It's much better to go ahead and
Speaker 1: step forward and say, hey, these guys over here are
Speaker 1: just are taking people for whatever they can and we
Speaker 1: need to stop it. UM and UH. And then there's
Speaker 1: a www. Dot fraud dot org, which is the National
Speaker 1: Consumer League's fraud center that's not a government site, that
Speaker 1: is a nonprofit consumer sites. Actually one of the oldest
Speaker 1: ones that exist, and uh, they have a they have
Speaker 1: a lot of information about fraud, how to spot it,
Speaker 1: how to avoid it, how to report it. And you
Speaker 1: can report something to that center and they will they
Speaker 1: will take it from there. They'll actually start going through
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, these are the authorities we should contact.
Speaker 1: Here's the information that we have to pass along to them. Um.
Speaker 1: So that's a good resource too. Now I know that
Speaker 1: we tend to concentrate on the United States, so I
Speaker 1: actually looked into a couple of other opportunities as well.
Speaker 1: So for my friends up in Canada who are still
Speaker 1: mad that I said that they don't use one, I
Speaker 1: just mean that you guys don't have emergencies because you're
Speaker 1: so level headed. Um. No, seriously, I know now that
Speaker 1: you use. At the time, I wasn't sure and I
Speaker 1: couldn't get to my computer, so I apologized profusely. Please
Speaker 1: stop throwing bacon at me. But in Canada, you can
Speaker 1: again contact the Better Business Bureau or Industry Canada Consumer Connection,
Speaker 1: which is and I followed by three CS. Do you
Speaker 1: think that causes any confusion? There are lots of three
Speaker 1: I found that out, um. And then over in the
Speaker 1: UK you can contact the Metropolitan Police or the Office
Speaker 1: of Fair Trading, or you can go to a website
Speaker 1: www dot rip Off, tip Off dot net to report scams.
Speaker 1: And there are many other organizations you can contact. And
Speaker 1: of course those are just two other countries. Every country
Speaker 1: has has different departments that you can contact in the
Speaker 1: case of scams. Um and a good resource to go
Speaker 1: to for really any any person in any country is
Speaker 1: www dot Consumer Fraud Reporting dot org. They actually maintain
Speaker 1: a list of various countries and the department that you
Speaker 1: would need to contact if you were to encounter fraud online.
Speaker 1: And it seems, Sarah that your your instincts were good
Speaker 1: because you knew something fishy was was going on. And um,
Speaker 1: I know it's been said many, many, many times and
Speaker 1: it's sort of cliche now, but yeah, if something seems
Speaker 1: too good to be true, it probably is. So you know,
Speaker 1: trust your gut feeling when somebody offers you something that
Speaker 1: seems a little out of the ordinary. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: as far as a business proposition, I would imagine that
Speaker 1: you know, businesses have to you know, you're looking for
Speaker 1: every opportunity to to do more business. Um, you know
Speaker 1: versus Hello, beneficiary, I want to uh, trade, you know,
Speaker 1: trade your information. Hello, Mr so and so, I am
Speaker 1: I am a lawyer for Mr so and so who
Speaker 1: was sick in Nigeria. Yeah, yeah, so, I'm sure for
Speaker 1: for business, it's got to be a little tougher because you're,
Speaker 1: you know, you're looking for an opportunity to actually, you know,
Speaker 1: conclude a deal. But uh, you know, you've got to
Speaker 1: trust those instincts because if something smells a little fishy,
Speaker 1: you need to to look into it, even if you
Speaker 1: don't uh, if you don't bite, and it's uh, you know,
Speaker 1: people know. And I encountered a lot of this back
Speaker 1: back when I worked at a different job. I was
Speaker 1: manned the phones every now and then and occasional and
Speaker 1: we would get the phone version of this kind of
Speaker 1: scam where someone asks you a couple of questions and
Speaker 1: just by saying yes, they go ahead and put down
Speaker 1: the the you know, the the client agreed to this service,
Speaker 1: and then they start charging you for it, and people
Speaker 1: are like, why are we getting charged for this paper
Speaker 1: from this vendor? We don't even use this vendor. And
Speaker 1: it was all based off of this one phone call
Speaker 1: where they trick someone into saying yes, and that's that
Speaker 1: is the basis of their agreement. Um, it's pretty scummy stuff,
Speaker 1: and yeah, you find it. You find it in all
Speaker 1: walks of life. It's just the Internet makes it, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you can then scam people all the way across
Speaker 1: the world. You aren't limited to the people in your
Speaker 1: area code. Thank you Internet. It sure is moving on.
Speaker 1: So our next question comes from Eric, and Eric wanted
Speaker 1: to know the difference between the terms hardware, software, and firmware.
Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about firmware in a previous
Speaker 1: episode and he was just kind of curious, says to,
Speaker 1: you know, what exactly is firmware? So really you have
Speaker 1: to talk about all three to kind of explain. So first,
Speaker 1: let's tackle hardware. That's pretty easy. Yeah, that's why I
Speaker 1: wouldn't tackle it first. Those are those are well, in
Speaker 1: the case of electronics and technology, the machines themselves, the
Speaker 1: physical devices your monitor, your computer, your iPod, your adapter, cars,
Speaker 1: tax machine, cables, anything like that, if you can touch it, Um,
Speaker 1: you know technology, it's it's hardware, right, So that's pretty easy.
Speaker 1: And then software are programs and applications that run on hardware. Um,
Speaker 1: so this is like all the different programs things that
Speaker 1: you rely on day to day operating systems can be
Speaker 1: you know, that's software as well. Um, so this is
Speaker 1: all the little happy programs that make your technology useful.
Speaker 1: So it could be anything from like software on computer,
Speaker 1: software on a mobile device. Uh, you know, even on
Speaker 1: some watches things like that. I mean pretty much any
Speaker 1: electronic device that can do us to phisticated sort of task,
Speaker 1: it's using some sort of software. So the the hardware
Speaker 1: is the machine that without the software, it couldn't do anything.
Speaker 1: So that you know, the software is the program that
Speaker 1: runs on the machine and gets it to do things.
Speaker 1: What is firmware? Yes, it's kind of um, yeah, firmware
Speaker 1: is this this gray area that you know, there's no
Speaker 1: definitive point where you can say this is firmware and
Speaker 1: this is software. Right, Well, it's sort of a combination.
Speaker 1: It's it's literally a combination of the two, but only
Speaker 1: for a very specific part of the hardware and a
Speaker 1: very specific part of the software. Yeah, and it tends
Speaker 1: to be these tend to be very tiny applications that
Speaker 1: are hard coded into some part of the hardware on
Speaker 1: your device, sort of like a driver. Really, it could
Speaker 1: be very much like a driver or you know, a
Speaker 1: microprocessor has machine code coded onto it, otherwise it can't work. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, when you're running a program, ultimately it's getting
Speaker 1: translated into machine code and then translate back into whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever the program is doing. But um, that's
Speaker 1: you know, that's the very core of how a computer works.
Speaker 1: So the firmware is the stuff that is hard coded
Speaker 1: part of the device. Uh. You know, you can't remove it,
Speaker 1: you can't write over it. It's it's what it's what
Speaker 1: allows software to communicate with the hardware so that you
Speaker 1: get results. Yeah, it's um, it's actually stored in ROM,
Speaker 1: which is read only memory and UM, so it can
Speaker 1: only be found on him on a ROM that's inside
Speaker 1: of your machine. So it's uh, you know, it's not
Speaker 1: something that's on your hard drive or anything like that.
Speaker 1: It would actually be in the chips themselves. Right. You
Speaker 1: can think of things like, um, I I would you
Speaker 1: call say, a cartridge game, would you call that firmware
Speaker 1: because it's hardcoded onto the cartridge? Well, um, that's a
Speaker 1: really good question you answer for you mean, like, yes,
Speaker 1: don't say the game. I'm not But those were those cartridges,
Speaker 1: those older cartridges up until you know I guess Nintendo
Speaker 1: sixty four era type stuff. Um, you know those those
Speaker 1: you can't write to those cartridges. I mean you can,
Speaker 1: but you have to have a burner to do it,
Speaker 1: and it's a pain in the neck. You're you're putting
Speaker 1: it inside your game machine. You're not writing to them.
Speaker 1: Those are those are rams? Um, and uh so technically yeah,
Speaker 1: they're kind of fit in that area. I think though
Speaker 1: that people would tell you if we went to talk
Speaker 1: to a programming expert, um, they would say that something
Speaker 1: inside the on the on the chips itself that tell
Speaker 1: the chips how to handle that would actually be firmware
Speaker 1: where the software is on the actual fair enough. So
Speaker 1: what what about a RAM chip that you would find
Speaker 1: in an old fashioned arcade game? See now that I'm
Speaker 1: thinking would probably be technically firmware. Somebody's gonna write to us.
Speaker 1: Just make make sure you put attention Pallette. So, yes,
Speaker 1: if you would like to clarify our position, you know,
Speaker 1: were not this The thing is that really firmware is
Speaker 1: kind of it's a it's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: fuzzy term because there are some points where you're where
Speaker 1: you might say, well, is a driver really firmware or
Speaker 1: is that software because drivers are what allow you know,
Speaker 1: devices to interact with programs. So this goes back to
Speaker 1: our our our semi definition that we're making up as
Speaker 1: we go along, which is, um, if you download a
Speaker 1: driver for your printer, you're storing it on your hard drive,
Speaker 1: software on your hard drive that your computer hardware uses
Speaker 1: to access the printer. But say you have to update
Speaker 1: the firmware in your wireless router, and that way, you know,
Speaker 1: you're having to download information that gets stored written back
Speaker 1: onto the router to make it, you know, do what
Speaker 1: it needs to do to interact with your computer and stuff. Eric,
Speaker 1: I'd like to thank you for breaking text stuff. Well,
Speaker 1: very much impressed, you know, I I will admit, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, I didn't really know everything about firmware
Speaker 1: and I still don't, but I know a lot more
Speaker 1: now from doing research changes questions. So if you have
Speaker 1: a clarification and want to help out, if you're a
Speaker 1: programmer expert, you know, please drop us a line. And
Speaker 1: it may very well be that certain. You know, within
Speaker 1: different industries you have different definitions of what this really means.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's true. I was using a general Yeah,
Speaker 1: because because someone might think of firmware one way for
Speaker 1: say a laptop, and a different different way of thinking
Speaker 1: about when you're talking about say a mobile phone or
Speaker 1: or an Xbox three sixty. I mean, you know, we
Speaker 1: have game consoles now they get firmware updates to correct
Speaker 1: for problems. So you know, this is no longer just
Speaker 1: the realm of the computer. Um, it's really lots of
Speaker 1: different devices, but it's it's essentially chip instructions versus the
Speaker 1: software that actually runs, you know, when you open a
Speaker 1: program on your machine. So thanks a lot, Eric, I
Speaker 1: hope that muddy up the waters a little bit. Yeah, yea, Well,
Speaker 1: we have one more ready for the last one. Right,
Speaker 1: Hey guys, I'm a new listener, but have only six
Speaker 1: more of your podcast to listen to keep quick Yeah,
Speaker 1: caught up really quickly. I can't get enough information. So
Speaker 1: thanks on your Rechargeable Batteries podcast, I was hoping you'd
Speaker 1: address one aspect of charging. The scenario is I've been
Speaker 1: playing on my eye Touch all okay, I guess that's
Speaker 1: the iPod Touch all night, and I realized it's getting
Speaker 1: late and I need to charge it so I can
Speaker 1: take it with me tomorrow and have enough battery to
Speaker 1: last the day. But if I plug it in now
Speaker 1: and leave it in all night, I'm worried I'll overcharge
Speaker 1: the battery. So my question is can you overcharge batteries?
Speaker 1: Thanks for your help, Aaron. All right, Aaron, Well, um,
Speaker 1: so we're talking about rechargeable batteries. Whether you know, we
Speaker 1: we talked a lot about what was the best way
Speaker 1: to charge them. You know, how charge is lost over
Speaker 1: the duration of the lifetime of the battery, that kind
Speaker 1: of thing. You remember this podcast? I do remember that podcast. So, um,
Speaker 1: so yeah overcharging. Uh, first of all, you asked, can
Speaker 1: you overcharge batteries? The answer to that is sometimes, Well,
Speaker 1: the answer to that is yes, but it's sort of
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to do it because depending on the
Speaker 1: kind of battery you have, and depending on the machine
Speaker 1: you're using to charge it. Um, It's it's unlikely that
Speaker 1: you're gonna do that. Um because most chargers have some
Speaker 1: technology built in to keep you from overcharging your battery. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll detect how much of voltage your battery is storing,
Speaker 1: and if it's over a certain amount, it'll stop sending
Speaker 1: a charge to that battery. Essentially, laptop batteries are pretty
Speaker 1: smart in that regard because they can they generally have
Speaker 1: some technology built in to say, oh, well this is
Speaker 1: this is enough, you don't need to charge anymore. So
Speaker 1: let's just say, for sake of argument, that your charger,
Speaker 1: the voltmeter no longer accurately measures the voltage in your battery.
Speaker 1: So let's say that you've kept the the device, computer,
Speaker 1: whatever plugged in for like a day. Uh, what's the
Speaker 1: worst thing that can happen? Okay, So the best thing
Speaker 1: that can happen is that your battery overheats a bit
Speaker 1: and it damages the battery and your battery life suffers
Speaker 1: as a result. And that's probably going to be the
Speaker 1: most common thing that happens. That's like, by and large,
Speaker 1: the best best case scenario. Worst case scenario, the battery
Speaker 1: bursts into flames and burns down half of Detroit, um,
Speaker 1: even if you lived in St. Louis. No, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's a bit of an exaggeration. Uh No, No, it
Speaker 1: really could. Though. It could burst into flames. I mean
Speaker 1: that is a possibility. It's not likely to happen, um,
Speaker 1: but it is. It is a potential danger that every
Speaker 1: lithium ion battery really has. It's that if you overcharge it,
Speaker 1: it might it might burn up. Actually, you make a
Speaker 1: good point, because I forgot to mention that the research
Speaker 1: that I did was speci typically for lithium ion batteries,
Speaker 1: which is the most common battery found in laptops and
Speaker 1: portable electronics, you know, chargeable stuff. Now, there are other
Speaker 1: kinds of chargeable batteries, so your mileage may vary. Battery
Speaker 1: is actually a little more dangerous, I think. But the
Speaker 1: nickel acadmium, yeah, well they're not used as much as
Speaker 1: they used to be either. Um and and lithium ion
Speaker 1: also has a you know, you've seen those laptops that
Speaker 1: have burst into flames. Um that's called thermal runaway. And
Speaker 1: I had one. They burst into flames and just cut Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got extremely hot, and that's uh, that can actually
Speaker 1: happen by itself when you're not charging, but that requires
Speaker 1: a serious breakdown in the battery itself too. You know,
Speaker 1: we're talking about chemical reactions that kind of cause the
Speaker 1: stuff to happen. So that's unrelated to the charging. Well
Speaker 1: I guess we're charging. Yeah, So anyway, Yes, it is possible.
Speaker 1: It's not easy to do, so you probably don't need
Speaker 1: to worry about it. But in general, don't leave anything
Speaker 1: plugged in for twenty four hours. Yeah, you'll if you
Speaker 1: read the instructions that with your portable electronic device, computer, etcetera. Um,
Speaker 1: you'll you'll get instructions and a lot of them will
Speaker 1: tell you, yeah, go ahead and plug it in and
Speaker 1: charge it overnight for the first time or you know.
Speaker 1: I think if you come home, your batteries run down,
Speaker 1: you plug it into the charger, and then the next
Speaker 1: morning before you leave, you unplug it. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's gonna cause a big problem. It's when you leave
Speaker 1: it plugged in for days and days and days and
Speaker 1: days and days, especially when it's something that's less intelligent. Um,
Speaker 1: like if you've just had batteries sitting at home in
Speaker 1: a charger and they were just well, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: leave them in there so they're always ready. Probably not
Speaker 1: leaving your laptop plugged in all the time is not
Speaker 1: probably gonna cause a big problem because it's a little
Speaker 1: smarter than that. Yeah, so in general you're probably okay, Um,
Speaker 1: don't leave your your device is plugged in for twenty
Speaker 1: four hours or more at a time. Just to avoid that,
Speaker 1: because that's that that can cause damage. Even if it
Speaker 1: doesn't damage the battery directly. Uh, it might, you know,
Speaker 1: the charger, It might wear the charger down fast, I
Speaker 1: mean or the battery. Yeah, or the battery. That's true.
Speaker 1: The battery life can suffer if it overheats for an
Speaker 1: extended period of time. That can that can cause the
Speaker 1: chemical reactions to be less efficient, and then it doesn't
Speaker 1: hold a chart as much of a charge as it
Speaker 1: used to. And that's a simple way to tell. I
Speaker 1: feel it. It's the battery. Yeah, you know, if it's
Speaker 1: a little warm, you know, oh that's kind of warm. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's pretty dark. If you're using a device
Speaker 1: like I don't know, the HTC G one Google Android Farm. Uh,
Speaker 1: if you're using like that with all of its functions going,
Speaker 1: it can warm up all on its own. So that's
Speaker 1: not necessarily a sign of the battery overheating. Um, that's
Speaker 1: a sign of the processor getting really hot. I found
Speaker 1: that out the hard way. So now I don't use
Speaker 1: nearly as many functions at a time. Well, I use uh,
Speaker 1: you know, my my laptop at home is a as
Speaker 1: an Apple aluminum case laptop, you know, and then there's
Speaker 1: that you know, working in the summer wearing shorts, thing
Speaker 1: going well, that is awfully warm, So that's you know,
Speaker 1: they're use your head. But yeah, I mean, if you
Speaker 1: feel your battery and it's warmer than it should be
Speaker 1: while it's charging, and you know, for example, you're not
Speaker 1: actually doing anything with the battery, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: plugged in, that's that's a bad time. So that about
Speaker 1: wraps it up for this this podcast. I think you
Speaker 1: don't have anything else in So if any of you
Speaker 1: have any questions or concerns, or you want to try
Speaker 1: and get something off your chest, like the image of
Speaker 1: Chris and Shorts working on a laptop. If you want
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