1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Steve Tasker back from vacation. Today, I'm gonna 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: be on One Bills Live with my buddy Chris Brown. 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the Buffalo Bills unveiling last night 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: of the Bills individual season performances by all of their 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: players over the course of their history. We're gonna talk 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: about those top ten guys. Gonna be a lot of fun. Also, 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: the beat writer for the La Rams, Vincent bonson your 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna come on and talk about Aaron Donald and 9 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: his contract hold out. Also, he got a tour of 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: the Rams new stadium. It's going up out in La 11 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: as well. Also, the NFL unveiled their top one hundred 12 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: players over the past few weeks. Last night they gave 13 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: us their top ten. We're gonna discuss if we think 14 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: they got it right. All that had much much more 15 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: on One Bills Live and it starts right now. Oh, 16 00:00:41,440 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Touchdown, touchdown, textownto. Welcome to One Bill's Live, 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: presented by Kalidah Health from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo 18 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. I'm Steve Tasker, and as you know, I'm 19 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: joined here by by Now you know that I'm joined 20 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: by Chris Brown Bill's Insider today. As the people who 21 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: watching MSG will see it's Jim Kelly football camp day 22 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: once again, and they are everywhere. Yeah, we had Jim 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: the comments he made to the media. We had that 24 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: on the show yesterday, and I think people are just 25 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: pretty surprised to even see him participating actively less than 26 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: a week removed from that follow up surgery. But that's 27 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: Jim So's he thrives on it though. I think he 28 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: thrives on being around people. He loves people as friends 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: and family. He thrives on being in the middle of things, 30 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: and I think it's good for him. I'm glad he 31 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: was out and we had a big The five Presidents 32 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: had a tech sloop going around this morning checking on 33 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: him see how he was doing. He responded pretty quick. 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: So when he's up and around for stuff he's got 35 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: going on, he's he's an active participant in our little 36 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: social networking group that we have and he's so he 37 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: seems normally, seems upbeat, and he's good to go. It's 38 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: good to hear. Yeah. I put Thurman to work finding 39 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: out where you were on vacation last week when he 40 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: was on the show because we knew you were on vacation. 41 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: We couldn't remember where you were. And he goes, I 42 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: think he's out with somewhere. He goes, I'm gonna check. 43 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: So during the break, he's like on that tech loop 44 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: thing that you guys, Yeah, he's in Alaska. I was like, okay, 45 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: thanks Thurman, Steve's travel coordinator is that's right. Well, we 46 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: keep track of each other, and I wasn't Alaska. My 47 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: daughter has lived in Alaska since twenty ten when she 48 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: graduated from college. By the way, my daughter graduated in 49 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: three years, so she's my favorite. Okay, because you know 50 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: what college even the money, right, so you know what 51 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: college costs. So she's been out there since two thousand 52 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: and ten. So we go out visit her pretty frequently. 53 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: My wife goes out at least once a year, usually 54 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: more than that, and then I go out once a year. 55 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: We do it together. Obviously, where is she up there? Though? Anchorage? Oh, 56 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: she is an Anchorage Anchorage, So I don't know. They've 57 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: got a I took a picture. We took all kinds 58 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: of pictures when I chose and we'll see it msg 59 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: this picture. You see you see that brownie that's off 60 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: the back deck. Is that like ten pm at night, 61 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: it's eleven thirty at night. Yeah, it's the sunshine twenty hours, 62 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: it's twenty hours. It's like twenty three and a half 63 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: hours the sunshine. The sun does go below the horizon, 64 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: but it never gets dark in Anchorage and Ego up 65 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: on the north slope and it's L twenty four seven. 66 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: But this picture that people were seeing on MSG was 67 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: taken at eleven thirty night. The sky is blue, so 68 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: it's it was it's hard and listen to jet lag 69 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: on the way when we got back here on Friday morning. 70 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: The jet lag just yesterday morning or last night, kind 71 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: we kind of felt like normally bedtime felt normal, and 72 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: getting up this morning it kind of finally felt normally 73 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: that times for me to come to work because I 74 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: my folks lived in Anchorage probably about two or three 75 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: years when my dad was in the service up there 76 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: at back during Vietnam War. They're all worried about the 77 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: Russian threat that covered over in invading Alaska, so they 78 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: had battalions up there and whatnot. So my dad was 79 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: up there in the service, and you know, I got 80 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: all He's got his old slide shows and stuff. Of things. 81 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: And the thing that was the most amazing thing to 82 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: me was all that sunlight. What it does for your 83 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: crops up there. I mean they haven't stopped growing. They 84 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: had heads as the size of pumpkins. Oh yeah, um, watermelons, 85 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: you know, like the size of coolers. I mean, just 86 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: gigantic have produced because all that sun They have pumpkin 87 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: contests up there, and you can't lift them. I mean 88 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: they need a forklift to get those things off the 89 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: ground because I was growing season short. But it's it's 90 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: packed in there. That's you know, twenty four hours of 91 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: sunlight and they just it just never stops and it 92 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: takes a breakast and you're right, it's I couldn't believe 93 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: it's some of them. And it's true too. The military 94 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: is big presence up there, and it's and it's and 95 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: it's it's never a joke, but it's no joke up 96 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: there there. Yeah, it's a big presence, but it's there 97 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: was a blast to be up there. The weather was fantastic. 98 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: We had a blast, went bounced around a little bit, 99 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: but it's like sixty five seventy yeah, you know, and 100 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: because it's daylight all the time that you don't get 101 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: like seventy five thirty five, it's like sixty five fifty five. 102 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: You know, it levels out because the sun is always up. 103 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: It never goes dips down because it never gets anchorages 104 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: by the water, so that kind of Yeah, you get 105 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: those warmer ocean breezes and it's in the southern When 106 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: you're inland, it gets colder. Yeah. We took a trip 107 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: and we flew up around Denali in a little plane, 108 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: you know, sightseeing. I can't believe how vast it is, 109 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So we listen, we drive, we were 110 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: we've been up there before. And where you get into 111 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: your landed anchorage and then you take a little bush 112 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: plane for two hours north and you're going like one 113 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety mile an hour in this bush plane 114 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: for two hours, and you land up there and you 115 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: look at the map and you're like still on the 116 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: bottom eighth of the state. You haven't even got into 117 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: the deep part of the state. And you've flown north 118 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: from anchorage for two hours. I mean it goes on 119 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: and on. Yeah, it's I can't believe it. So that's 120 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: so it's blast. We go up there with there's always 121 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: something new to do that. We had a moose run 122 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: through a softball game that we were watching. I mean, 123 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: and this it was I swear life of my children 124 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: yearling bull. He had a small set of horns. The 125 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: thing was eight feet tall. It was the tallest furry 126 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: animal I have ever seen, and it was like a 127 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: yearling moose. I always take my cue from the locals, though, 128 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: because you know, they know how to act around the animals. 129 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: Like so, you know, it's the weirdest thing because when 130 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: a bear comes out, people kind of stay still and 131 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: they kind of hey, bear, hey, if it's a brown bear. 132 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: If it's grizzly bear, you think while it's the actually 133 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: grizzly want nothing to do with people, they kind of 134 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: run off. If it's a black bear, people kind of like, there, 135 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: you gotta win that fight the grizzly. If you play dead, 136 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: they'll leave you alone. Right the black bear, you gotta win. 137 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: This is gonna kill you. The moose. I have never 138 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: seen the locals give a wider birth to any end. 139 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: They when moose come out, they get out of the way. 140 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: They do not bears, not so much. Moose. People are running. 141 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: You can't mess with them. I had a buddy that 142 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: goes up to Ontario, like way up north in the 143 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: summertime to go fishing. So he'll be canoeing and whatnot 144 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: and just kind of like a weak camp and trip 145 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: a lot of fishing and stuff. So there will they 146 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: they're paddling up in this lake and in the shallows, 147 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: they're eating the weeds and stuff. Is a moose, you know, 148 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: just sitting there. So they're paddling along and they gotta 149 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: get to the shoreline where the moose is. But you 150 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: can't get into their territory because if you spook them, 151 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: it's a it's bad. So they're like, all right, let's 152 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: let's paddle over to shore. We're gonna walk around the 153 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: shoreline to get to where we need to get right, 154 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: So they get around. So they're coming around the corner 155 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, boot thing pops its head up, 156 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: looks at them. They stop. Now they're carrying the canoe 157 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: over their head, you know, they're walking the thing on 158 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: the land. So they look like, well, I don't know 159 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: what they look like, but long story short, moose gets spooked, 160 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: starts peeling out right at them. Yeah, that moose stones 161 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: get scared, turning and running down the path with the canoe. 162 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: I said, why don't you bail the canoe. You can 163 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: get it later, right, He's like, I thought that thing 164 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: was gonna catch up. I said, yeah, because you were 165 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: carrying a canoe. You dope, dump the canoe and get 166 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: the hell out of there. They are moose are nasty. 167 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: They are very territorial, and they come after you. I 168 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: mean that's so if you get you on the ground, 169 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: it's over because they bury that rack on you. They 170 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: also start they yeah, they stomp you with their hooves. 171 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: It's so bad. So that's that was the high Land 172 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: and that's you're not I gotta tell you. That's the 173 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: first time we've were gone up there, and that's the 174 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: only that's the only piece of wildlife I saw was 175 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: no kidd and moose running through the park. Where no 176 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: ravens flying around up there. I know they got ravens 177 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: up there. I mean, yeah, well you see some birds 178 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: and stuff, but yeah, ments you know, ducks on ponds 179 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: and stuff, but nothing bald eagles. They got bald eagles 180 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: up there. I never saw one, dang, didn't see one. 181 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: They're everywhere, but I didn't see them. It was weird. 182 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: I think you'd see wolves, you know too, or they 183 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: have coyote, I mean probably wolves, which is the size 184 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: of Buffalo. Yeah, without the without the suburbs. So it's 185 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: a couple hundred thousand people living in Anchorage. It's got 186 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's got office buildings, you know, yeah, you know, 187 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: tall hotels, that kind of thing. And uh so it's 188 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: a city. But you know, once you hit the city limits, 189 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: the Amherst's it's isolated. You know, you know when the 190 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: when the town line ends. That's right. So here with 191 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: one Bills Live Chris Brown alone with Steve Tasker. We'll 192 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: take your phone calls during the day. We're also got 193 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: a Twitter where the Twitter question today is and if 194 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: you heard it on the open that we did. The 195 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: Bills came out last night with another top ten show 196 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: and it is top ten individual seasons in Bill's history 197 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: and it starts with Elbert Debinion ends all the way 198 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: up with oj Simpson is two thousand yard rushing season 199 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy three, So a lot of stuff going on. 200 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: Our Twitter poll is around that and it goes with 201 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: what is your favorite Buffalo Bills individual season of all time? 202 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: And that's your favorite and it doesn't have to have 203 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: made the list or any of them. Those you can 204 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: imagine that Bruce Jim Thurman are all on there. Bryce 205 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: Pops defensive MVP of the Year season is on there. 206 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: OJ's on there twice. Elbert Debinion is number ten on 207 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: the list for the Bills. You can go back and 208 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: look at all of mine. I'm sure some of the 209 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: people here have some Freddie Jackson's memories about his years. 210 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: Eric Mole's one of the great Buffalo Bill receivers of 211 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: all time. Who really and we were talking about this, 212 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: you talk about we're talking about this earlier. Eric molds 213 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: on this list. What kind of career would he have 214 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: had if he wouldn't have landed in Buffalo when he 215 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: did and had his career through the Buffalo Bills at 216 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: the time of you know, he went to the playoffs 217 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: with us when I was on the team for a 218 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: couple of years when I was there, but then after 219 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,599 Speaker 1: that he went in began the drought seasons. What a 220 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: what a talent he was to be on a team 221 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: that's in that era. And I was talking to Eric 222 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: on the show yesterday we had him as a guest 223 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: because I wanted to ask The number one question I 224 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: asked him was, I mean, you look at his ninety 225 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: eight season, and that was impressive enough. He had sixty 226 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: seven catches for almost fourteen hundred yards, which he ever 227 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: to over twenty yards of reception, and he had nine 228 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: or ten touchdowns, you know, and that was amazing in 229 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: and of itself. And then in the playoff game, he 230 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: has nine catches for two hundred and forty yards and 231 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: a touchdown sets sets the team record, and everybody, everybody 232 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: remembers that season because it was his big breakout season, 233 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: his third year, and everybody seems to forget his two 234 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: thousand and two season when he set the franchise mark 235 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: for catches in a year with one hundred, yeah, and 236 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: had just as many yards and I think nine or 237 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: ten touchdowns again, and he did go to the Pro 238 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: Bowl that year too. But I asked him, I said, 239 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: which one, which season are you more proud of? And 240 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: he said it was ninety eight that he was more 241 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: proud of that season, just because it was his first 242 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: big year. And he said, you know, the stat that 243 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: I probably am most proud of is that twenty point 244 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: four yard receiving average that year, because it's hard to do. 245 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: It's hard to average over twenty yards to catch in 246 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: the NFL, and so to be able to do that, 247 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: he said, there's some numbers that I'm proud of, you know, 248 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: the hundred catches in a season, he goes, but twenty 249 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: point four is where it's at for me. Yeah. Absolutely, So, 250 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: if you've got to if you've got to take on 251 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: what your favorite individual performance throughout a season is. For 252 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, you can call us or tweet us, 253 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: tweet at us at one Bills Live or phone call 254 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: us at eight oh three oh five fifty or outside 255 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: Buffalo anywhere around the country or around the world. Is 256 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: one eight to eight five fifty two five fifty Steve 257 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: Task along with Chris Brown, we're on one Bills Live. 258 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: We're talking about kind of the top ten. We're gonna 259 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: get to this later. But the NFL has been coming 260 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: out and they do it every year. It's become a thing, 261 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: and now the Bills are doing it with all their 262 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: top ten shows that you can catch also on msg 263 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: UH top ten players in the Bill and the NFL 264 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: has come out with the top one hundred players and 265 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: last night they came out with the top ten their 266 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: final top ten. We'll get to that in a minute 267 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: as well. But the top ten rounding out starting the 268 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: tenth guy is Aaron Rodgers. So you know the rest 269 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: of them, you're shaking your head. It's what I said, 270 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: this list I do too. I mean, come on, I 271 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: don't want to get into it. Now we can we 272 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: can send an embarrassing name in the top five. I'm sorry. 273 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: There you go. So I'm with you. So we're going 274 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: to talk about that, and we want to hear from 275 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: you as well. One Bills Live. Give us a call 276 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: at eighty eight five fifty one eighty eight five fifty 277 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: two five fifty or tweet at as. We've got some 278 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: feedback already on our Twitter question, which is what's your 279 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: favorite individual season for a Buffalo Bills player in Bill's history? 280 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: And uh, it's it's interesting because some of you kind 281 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: of have to know that everybody's got their own era 282 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: that's their favorite. You know, what did you think of 283 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: the ten that we're that we're on the list, Like, 284 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: you can obviously make an argument with all of them. 285 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: You know, you think most of those are appropriate. I 286 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: mean I think I think they pretty much got that 287 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: list right at least in terms of what ten are 288 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: on there, and so you can argue the order, you 289 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: can flip flop a couple of them, and but certainly 290 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: OJ deserves to be in there, and he's in there twice. 291 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: Henry Jones nine two, had eight eight interceptions, went to 292 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl as a young player. Elbert Debinion really 293 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: got on the map on a fourteen game season, had 294 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: a ton of yards and Jim thrown for thirteen hundred 295 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: yard nineteen ninety one that season when before Super Bowl 296 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: twenty six, Jim was lightening it up, really lightening it up. 297 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: And of course, Bruce Smith, there's probably about four or 298 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: five six seasons you could put on this list. Take 299 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: your thing about Debenion because obviously I wasn't around to 300 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: see him play that year. But averaging twenty seven yards 301 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,599 Speaker 1: a catch, I mean, are you kidding me? And I 302 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,599 Speaker 1: mean I knew the sixties, I knew they's when it 303 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: was a running league. Well, I knew, yeah, and the 304 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: AFL was known as as the league that aired it 305 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: out certainly more than the NFL did, right, But I 306 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: didn't know there were there were guys doing that. Averaged 307 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: in twenty seven yards of reception and ten touchdowns. And oh, 308 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: by the way, it was what was it a twelve 309 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: game season in the ANFL back then? I want to 310 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: say it was fourteen. It was fourteen. Yeah, I think 311 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: it was fourteen. It says he's finished a fourteen game 312 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: season eleven hundred yards twenty seven point one yards per catch. 313 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that's never that's never gonna be broken. Still, say, 314 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: we were talking about Eric Moulves putting it up for 315 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: twenty yards and catch. This is twenty seven yards is 316 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: second game, Yeah, and he's second by seven seven yards. Um, 317 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: it's it was a big playing. He got the nickname 318 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: Golden Wheels. Well, yeah, I guess nobody could catch him, 319 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: so that you know that, So I that was im prob. 320 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad they kind of reached back into the past 321 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: with him and Cookie. You know, Cookie was running over 322 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: everybody in sixty two, sixty three, sixty four, So I 323 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: get that one. Um. Yeah. For and of course with 324 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: oj running for twenty two forty three scrimmage yards in 325 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: seventy five was another one. Yeah, that was the number 326 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: eight on the Yeah. I thought that one should have 327 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: been higher quite frankly, but yeah, you know, he was 328 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: already number one so I don't know, maybe they were 329 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: trying to be a little charitable with some of the 330 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: other guys, and I know they I know there was 331 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: an effort to get some measure of defensive presence on 332 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: this list, because these kinds of things generally gravitate towards 333 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. So it was nice, 334 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: you know, to see that they got some defensive players 335 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: on that list besides Bruce. I think everybody expected Bruce, 336 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: but Bryce pop is an easy is a kind of 337 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: an easy one because he was he was MVP defensive 338 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: MVP of the league. He had just signed for Buffalo 339 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: and he got in here and Bruce was on the 340 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: other side of him, and you think about, you know, 341 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: Bruce being on the other side of anybody. Yet that's 342 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: a lot of help. Yeah, you're getting sign as a 343 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: free agent. All of a sudden, he gets like I 344 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: think he got seventeen seventeen, seventeen and a half sacks 345 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: that year, and and really that was a that was 346 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: a team that was Yeah, that was a good football 347 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: team right there. Well, I mean, yeah, ninety five. I 348 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: think somebody commented on that on the tweet on the 349 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: tweet sheet, Wandering Jack anyone can say in terms of, 350 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, his favorite individual players season, it looks like 351 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: he's just looping the whole thing in for the whole year. 352 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: Anyone can say the Super Bowl years. But one of 353 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: my favorites was ninety six Bills win the AFC East 354 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: after a rocky ninety four. Billy Brooks in eighty nine 355 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: were killing it at wide receiver with read out. Yeah, 356 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: because Andre tore his hamstring against three giants, right like 357 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: three muscles off his back. Yeah, it was separated from 358 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: the bone. I remember Russell Copeland was out that year, 359 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: so the Bills got their last playoff win over Marino. Bryce, 360 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: Pop and Bruce had great seasons, a really fun year. Well, 361 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, and now you mentioned it, it 362 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: was my favorite year. I remember that being the most 363 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: receiver you played, right right. I got a chance to 364 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: play because there was a train wreck at wide out 365 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: because Andre was out and Russell Copeland was out and Billy. 366 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: Billy was supposed to be the third guy or the 367 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: backup wide receiver, he ends up being the main guy 368 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: and he set the record for touchdown catches And it 369 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: was so fun to play with Billy. What a great guy. 370 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: He was, and I had a lot of fun because 371 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: I got a chance, like you said, to play some 372 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: wide receiver, and um, it was a fun year, no 373 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: question about it. And I caught a touchdown and that 374 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: he mentioned the last playoff win by the Buffalo Bills 375 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: at home. He was at home was Miami and it 376 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: was Don Shootler's last game as head coach and at 377 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: after shoot putting the Bills fans through over the seventies. Yeah, 378 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: to get a win in the playoffs over him and 379 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: Dan Marine. That's interception. Yeah, I caught a I caught 380 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: a touchdown in that plass in that game. So yeah, 381 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: Wandering Jack, that gave that football to my nephew too, 382 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: by the way, I might he might want to give 383 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: it back after after the drought. He was saying, how 384 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: much is this worth? Yeah, but it was fun. You're right, 385 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: and there's a lot. And that's and we said that too. 386 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: This Wandering Jack put in on the tweet sheet, and 387 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: it is about the era that you grew up in. 388 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 1: And we got a lot of people listening to us 389 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: that are, no doubt, you know, from the nineties generation, 390 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: maybe something from the eighties and seventies, and certainly we've 391 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: got a bunch of younger the younger generation that's been 392 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: a part of the you know, the well. Yeah, and 393 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: I think there are individual players that people can point 394 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: to and say, Man, that guy had a really good year. 395 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: He was really entertaining to watch that season. You know, 396 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: we've already mentioned Molds a couple of times. I mean, 397 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: there's a guy that was unfortunately spent most of his 398 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: career in the drought that everybody knows about with the postseason, 399 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: and I mean there's some years where he was a 400 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: really entertaining player to watch. I mean, heck it, in 401 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: two thousand and two, even peerless Price was pretty entertaining. 402 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: I still I gotta say one of the most entertaining 403 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: games I've ever covered in person was that two thousand 404 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: and two game between the Bills and the Vikings. I 405 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: want to say it was Week two and it was 406 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: up at the Metrodome, and that thing goes to overtime 407 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: and the Bills win in ot because Mike Hollis hits 408 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: a fifty five yard field goal at the end of 409 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: regulation and it skips off the crossbar and through to 410 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: force overtime. It's thirty ninety nine and going to OT 411 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: and uh. I believe Drew Bledsoe hit Peerless Price for 412 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: the game winning touchdown. And he was on a he 413 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: was on some kind of and I was a skinny 414 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: post or a deep post. I can't remember how deep 415 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: the route was. But the safety's closing on him and 416 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: he gives him a jab step inside and then just 417 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 1: plant and and just hangs a hard left and the 418 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: safety's just grabbing it air and it's forty yards to 419 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: the end zone. Game over. And I mean that was 420 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: just at five thirty nine was the final and overtime. 421 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 1: That was one of the most entertaining games I had 422 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 1: ever seen. I love it. I love it. It's it's uh, 423 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: it's fun to go back and remember that because even 424 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: during the We've got, We've You've done it. Every radio 425 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: show in Buffalo and every fan in Buffalo is done 426 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: in a million times, particularly during the drought, of remembering 427 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: the good times. And there were moments even in the 428 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: drought when when we couldn't, you know, when the team 429 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: was struggling to win up games in a row and 430 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: trying to get over that eight and eight, seven to nine, 431 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: nine and seven hump and couldn't seem to do it, 432 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: and there were always moments in there in that era 433 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: that still gave us a lot of fun. You'd think 434 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: back here is Tiffany Daniels rights in CJ. Spiller's explosive 435 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: twenty and twelve season was fun to watch. Twelve hundred 436 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: and forty four yards rushing, six point zero yards per 437 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: carry average. He was the beast that year. Yeah, he 438 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: tied Adrian. He tied Adrian Peterson that year for the 439 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: yards per carry average lead in the league. He follow 440 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: up with a decent twenty thirteen, but sadly he kept 441 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: hoping he'd repeated and it never happened. But that season 442 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: in two twelve with twelve forty four six yards, Chan 443 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: knew how to use him, you know he. I mean, 444 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: Chan's favorite set was that four wide receivers won back 445 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: in the backfield, and what that did for Spiller was 446 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: just open up a ton of rushing lanes everywhere because 447 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: the box was never crowded because he had so many 448 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: guys out in the formation. So he did that on 449 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: purpose just to get CJ. In space. He was fast, 450 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: oh man, I could scoot once he got to the sideline. 451 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: Of course, we're watching a highlight right now, and he 452 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: falls on his shoulder. That's when he broke his collar bone. Yeah, 453 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: just fall and it really wasn't a bad tackle. He 454 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: just fell down on it. But once he got going, 455 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: he was pretty tough to catch, and you know, duplicating 456 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: it became an issue. I don't know, he just had 457 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: a hard time finding traction and I think he was 458 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: I think he kind of surprised. He was. He was 459 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: a surprise in the way that he wasn't able to 460 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: truly diversify his game. I think he was more of 461 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: a finesse player than a grinder, which is why I 462 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: think Fred was always more popular with Bills fans because 463 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: Fred was a grinder. Freddie didn't go down. I think 464 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: one of the things about CJ. He was limited in 465 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: his ability to make something out of nothing. Freddy Jackson 466 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: would make something out of nothing. Great backs you see 467 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: do things and that weren't there CJ. And even in 468 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: the kickoff return we're watching now an MSG, it was 469 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: well blocked up front. CJ would come out and he'd 470 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: cut back and if they overpursued, he would take advantage 471 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: of mistakes and he would also take advantage when there 472 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: was you know, it was when it was well blocking 473 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: when his teammates helped him out. But you never saw him. 474 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: And this is why I think he never repeated the 475 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: success he had in two thousand and twelves. He never 476 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: made something out of nothing. He went down easy on 477 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: first contact. You know, if somebody had him wrapped up. 478 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: He wasn't you know, leaping out of a leg tackle. 479 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: He sometimes he'd go down on arm tackles. His biggest 480 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: plays often came when there was a nice hole to 481 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: run through and there wasn't a lot of initial contact 482 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. If there was initial contact 483 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage, he was not getting much. Yeah, 484 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: he would outrun a lot of people, but he wouldn't 485 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: he right, He wouldn't break tackles. And you got to 486 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: do all of that when you're gonna run for that 487 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: many yards on a consistent basis, like the Adrian Peterson's 488 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: of the world and the you know, the O. J. 489 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: Simpsons of the world, and the Thurman Thomas's and you 490 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: name it, Earl Camp, you can go back through the history. 491 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: You got you got to do more than that. And CJ. 492 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: Was fast and he was good in the open field, 493 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: but like I said, he it just seemed like you 494 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: it had to be there for right and you looked 495 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: at how much he dominated in college. I mean, I 496 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: think he had twenty plays or twenty runs of fifty 497 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: yards or more in college. Well, when you're the best 498 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: athlete on the field, you know it's easy. But now 499 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: you're in the NFL where all the athletes are good, 500 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: and you know that margin of how much better you 501 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: are than everybody else shrinks noticeably, and it can impact 502 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: a game and keep your college game from translating in 503 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: the same way to the pros. Yeah, you're with One 504 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: Bill's Live Steve Tasker and Chris Brown. Today we're talking 505 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: about top ten individual performances in Buffalo Bill's history. Also, 506 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk later on in the show about the 507 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: top one hundred players in the NFL. In today's game 508 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: that they came out with a top ten guys left 509 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: stand finished the list. The finished the list last night. 510 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: We're also going to get a visit from Vincent bun Signor, 511 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: who is the LA beat writer for the Rams, and 512 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: they've got some stuff going on in LA. I don't 513 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: know if you've been watching, he probably have you because 514 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,239 Speaker 1: you keep up with it like like we do. But 515 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: the Rams are quietly having a very important offseason. You 516 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: look at the guys that they have now, Baby, it's 517 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: Marcus Peters and the keep to leave at cornerback and 518 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: Dominican Sue on the defensive line. They've already got Aaron 519 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: Donald who's holding out once a new deal, and they 520 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,479 Speaker 1: got Brandon Cooks on that team as well, plus all 521 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: the other guys. Um. So this is a make it 522 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: or break it year for LA. And they're still waiting 523 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: for their stadium to get built. Um. So they're still 524 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: playing in the coliseum right. I mean it's not going 525 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: to open until twenty twenty, so they've got two more 526 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: season La Colosseum. But it is taking shape. I mean 527 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: photos out there and the players went on a tour 528 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: the last day of minicamp. Coach McVeigh gave him a 529 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: day off and they said, oh, yeah, it looks like 530 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: a stadium now. You know, it's starting to go up. 531 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: You know, the bones are kind of getting put up there, 532 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: and you know there's no seats or anything like that yet, 533 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: but the concretees laid some of them. Second level is 534 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: getting put together and everything, and it's not and it's 535 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: more than just the stadium, right, I don't even there 536 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: is a whole entertainment complex there. I don't even know. 537 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: Is it gonna be an enclosed they're right, No, I 538 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,479 Speaker 1: mean open air state. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's going 539 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: to be open air. I mean it's LA. It's you know, 540 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: they don't get a ton of rain there. Well, Vincent 541 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: Buns and you or the LA. He's the LA Daily 542 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: News RAMS NFL columnist and he's also on five seventy 543 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: AMLA Sports RAMS Insider. So he's gonna come and join 544 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: us at one pm, so we'll talk to him and 545 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: get a feel for what he's about. We're also gonna 546 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: go NFL True and False later in the show, and 547 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: we want to revisit the Twitter poll throughout the day 548 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: as well. What is your favorite individual season performance in 549 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: Bill's history? Tweet us or call us at eight oh 550 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 1: three oh five fifty or at one Bill's Live and 551 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: outside of Buffalo, you can call us at one eight 552 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifties. Steve Tasker along 553 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: with Chris Brown, and we're gonna talk. We're gonna continue 554 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: doing this stuff about because you remember a lot of 555 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: stuff that I don't because I've been out doing the 556 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: NFL for CBS, and I've been watching teams all where perspective, 557 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: and you've been neck deep in the Bills history. That 558 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: that overtime game you mentioned a minute ago with in 559 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: two thousand Careless Price and all those guys in two 560 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: thousand and two, there was some fun times. Yeah, And 561 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: you know, I mean I haven't got that because you 562 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: think about all the stuff that I went through in 563 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: the nineties, where every game was fun, but you had 564 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: to really pick your moments in some of these are. Yeah. 565 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: I mean in two thousand and one, that was a 566 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: bear three and thirteen, and I would argue, you know, 567 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: and that was the salary cap perge year. You know, 568 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: Donahoe comes in, he starts hacking salary. And really in 569 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: two thousand and one, you could make the argument that 570 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: of the fifty three men on that roster, about twenty 571 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: five of them were real NFL players. The other guys 572 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: were there twenty five We're trying, but you could tell 573 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: they were not going to be long for the league. 574 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: They were three and thirteen for a reason. It was talent, 575 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: no matter who was coaching. I mean, I thought that 576 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: was probably as good a coaching job, as you know, 577 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: as there was during the drought and they went through 578 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: in thirteen, so that was rough. You know, everybody got 579 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: pumped up when you know, the Bills kind of came 580 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: out like a house on fire early in two thousand 581 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: and two. You know, they they win their opener, they're 582 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: two and oh. They beat the Jaguars like thirty eight 583 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 1: to sixteen down there and Bloodsill's throwing the ball all 584 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: over the field. Gilbride's a new coordinator, and they get 585 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: to mid season and they're five and three and they 586 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: got to play the Patriots and they lose to the Patriots. 587 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: They're five and four, and then before we know, we 588 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: get to the end of the season and they're eight 589 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: and eight and you know, they're not going to the postseason. 590 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: When if you looked at them in the first month 591 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: of the year, you were like, holy cow, these guys 592 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: are gonna score thirty points a game. They're gonna kill it. So, yeah, 593 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: it was tough. And I mean two thousand and eleven, 594 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: I know, is another season that people got really excited 595 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: about three and oh start, you know, and then it 596 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: all kind of came crashing down around mid season and 597 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: they lose eight of their last ten and finished six 598 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: and ten after a five and two start. I mean, oof, 599 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: that's a big oof. Yeah, but there's like and that's 600 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: why some empty stadiums in December. Then well yeah, but 601 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: that's why we want to kind of focus on individual 602 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: players seasons because within all of those seasons, even though 603 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: you know, the Bills didn't get to the postseason, there 604 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: were a lot of players who put up nice numbers 605 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: for themselves and really kind of showed out, you know. 606 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: I mean Aaron Schoble's fourteen sack season in two thousand 607 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: and six finally gets to his first Pro Bowl. I mean, 608 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: he was dominant that year. He really turned a corner 609 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: and went from an above average pass rusher to a 610 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl caliber one. And so you know, you say, wow, 611 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, you kind of forget, oh wow, Yeah, he 612 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: had fourteen sacks that year. I mean, that's impressive. I'll 613 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: tell you a couple of the guys that I would 614 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: pick that did not appear on the top ten lists 615 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: that I that were just entertaining and enjoyable for me. 616 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: I kind of did a little top three list of 617 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: my own. Yeah, okay, so number three is Willis mcgahey 618 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: two thousand and four season. So, as we know, Willis 619 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: is a first round pick of the Bills in two 620 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: thousand and three, but he's got a shredded knee that 621 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: he's got a rehab, doesn't play in two thousand and three, 622 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: comes in in two thousand and four, essentially unseats Travis Henry, 623 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: who in his own right was a pretty darn productive guy. 624 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: What he was here. You know what you want to 625 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: talk about a forgotten guy as a running back, it's 626 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: Travis Henry. MA. They got ran for fourteen hundred something 627 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: yards one year. I want to say it was two 628 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: thousand and two, you know, the big offensive year. But 629 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: mcgahey comes in and coming off an injury where his 630 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: knee literally exploded on national television, had lcl acl mcl 631 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: all like exploded, exploded, And to see what he did 632 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: that season, I think he ran for over eleven hundred yards, 633 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: had nine or ten touchdowns. Actually I might have it 634 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: over here, but just what he did that year, coming 635 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: back from that injury and seeing him dominate in the 636 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: run game the way he did eleven eight yards average 637 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: four yards to carry thirteen touchdowns for the Bills in 638 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: two thousand and four, and that season did not start well, 639 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: but they win six down the stretch and put themselves 640 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: in playoff contention. Obviously, they lose to the Steelers, which 641 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: was supremely disappointing, but mcgahey was a ton of fun 642 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: to watch that year, along with a rookie Lee Evans, 643 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: who had nine touchdowns as a rookie wide receiver in 644 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: a first round pick, you know, in two thousand and four. 645 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: So there are guys that you can find through, you know, 646 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: the last twenty years where even though playoffs weren't in 647 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: the cards, they were certainly entertaining guys to watch. And 648 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: that's why we want to ask the fans, you know, 649 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: to pick some of those guys that you know they 650 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: really enjoyed watching in one particular season that might not 651 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: be on this very obvious top ten lists. Right what's 652 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: your favorite in what's your favorite Bills individual season performance 653 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: of all time? Call us or tweet us. You can 654 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: call us at eight O three five fifty one eighty 655 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: eight five fifty two, five fifty. We're gonna take a break, 656 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna come back and talk about the NFL's top 657 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: ten players. They listed one hundred, but the top ten 658 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: guys were unveiled last night. We're gonna come back, and 659 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: we've got a problem with the list. You're at One 660 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. 661 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: We'll be right back back. Welcome back to One Bills 662 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: Live on One Bills at One Bill's Drive. You're with 663 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Chris Brown. And if you can't tell, Murph's 664 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: not here today and I'm hosting, and it's gonna be 665 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: spotty at best my performance, So hang in there with us. 666 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for being patient with us. Steve task along with 667 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, we're talking about top ten things. Not only that, 668 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: your favorite top ten Bills season of all time, not 669 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: the team individual performance. What's your favorite one? The Bills 670 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: came out with another top ten program last night's featuring 671 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,479 Speaker 1: Top ten Bills individual seasons of all times. Started at 672 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: number ten Elbert Debinion, works its way all the way 673 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: up to OJ Simpson's two thousand yards season in nineteen 674 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: seventy three, and there's a bunch of guys in between. 675 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: Of course, a bunch of them are in the Hall 676 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: of Fame. Number nine, it's actually Henry Jones, guy I 677 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: played with phenomenal safety, had a really good start to 678 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: his career and that got him on this list. You 679 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: mentioned Willis mcgahey and oh four having one of your 680 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: favorite seasons of all time, and we want to hear 681 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: from you. Go ahead and give us a call at 682 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: eight h three, five fifty or at one bills Live 683 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: on Twitter. You can tweet at us as well, and 684 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into this thing now that the NFL 685 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: puts it out every year and they have the players 686 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: around the league vote on the one hundred top players 687 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: in the league currently, So this is the players talking, 688 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: which to me and I was gonna poop poo this 689 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: list because you and I both have problems with the 690 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: top ten guys in and their order that they fall in, 691 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: and I always kind of I was gonna poopoo it 692 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: until I found out the players voted on it, and 693 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: that to me gives it a little bit right play. 694 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: You'd think that it's on twenty seventeen play, but you 695 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: got to know there's some carryover for these guys. I mean, right, 696 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: are you? I mean, are you with me? Because Aaron 697 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: Rodgers played in what six games, and he's still at 698 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: number ten on the top one hundred. Yeah, you're probably 699 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: slide him back a little. I think that's a little 700 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: reputation working there. Oh, it's total reputation. You know, his 701 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: numbers weren't bad from a completion percentage perspective among other things. 702 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: But you know, he just didn't have the numbers because 703 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: he only played in six games. Then it moves up 704 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: through Von Miller Drew Brees at number eight, which to me, 705 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: Drew Brees at number eight is a total, total travesty. 706 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: That guy's got to be top two or three. There 707 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: are seven seven seasons in the NFL where a guy 708 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: through for five thousand yard. He's got five of them. Yeah, 709 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: I actually said they listen to me giving him reputation. 710 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: Actually said that very thing on the air yesterday. So 711 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm such a Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning. This week they 712 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: were talking to him. Um, because Drew Brees is only 713 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: fourteen hundred yards away from Manning's career passing total, which 714 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: leads the league in the history of the league. So 715 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: Breeze by about mid season should pass hit, it would 716 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: pass him. And Peyton was asked, does Drew deserve it? 717 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: And he said one hundred percent he deserves it, and 718 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: I referenced the list you just mentioned because there have 719 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: only been nine five thousand yard passing seasons in league history. 720 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: He's got five of them. Nobody else has more than one. Right, 721 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: it's Marino Peyton Manning. You think of the years Marino 722 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: put together in Miami and Ben Bill's fans saw it firsthand. 723 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: Marino is on the list once, Breeze is on it 724 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: five times, and there's only what five guys on the list, right, 725 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: that's you deserve it, right, And that's why I'd have 726 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: him higher on this list. To put him higher on that. 727 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: And I'm such a hypocrite because we just got all 728 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 1: over everybody for giving Aaron Rodgers number ten one played 729 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: in six games, and here I did the same thing 730 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: for Drew Brees. Yeah. I didn't even care what kind 731 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: of well he threw it for forty three hundred yards 732 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: last year. The reason I think he's sitting there at 733 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: eight is because he only had twenty three touchdown passes, 734 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: which is low for him. I saw him, We saw 735 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: him firsthand here in Buffalo this year. He are the 736 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: Bills up while the running game did in that game too, 737 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: I mean what they run for almost three hundred yards 738 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara came in. All these guys, I mean, they 739 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: were they were a machine. They were a machine. They 740 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,479 Speaker 1: were offensively, they were off the charts. They won games 741 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: last year just because of the guy throwing it, and 742 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: the guys are around at catching. I mean, but how 743 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: high up the list did you want to push him here? 744 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: He's eight for me, yeah, and I know he only 745 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: had twenty three touchdowns and he got some help, you know, 746 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: because they did some more things offensively than they do usually. 747 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: They ran for some touchdowns rather than through for all 748 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: of them. I mean, I put him right in there 749 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: where Carson Wentz is at three, and Carson Wentz. I 750 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: don't know if I'd flip him all the way down 751 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: to eight, but I'd move him back. I know Wentz 752 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 1: had a really really good year. I mean thirty three 753 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 1: touchdowns and seven picks. I mean that's that's Aaron Rodgers 754 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: kind of production. And he only played thirteen games. So 755 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: the issue I have with Wentz is he only threw 756 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: for thirty two hundred yards. I mean, that guy shouldn't 757 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: be number three throwing for thirty two hundred yards. Breeze 758 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: through for a thousand more yards than him, right, I 759 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: mean he should be ahead of Wentz. So you want 760 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: to slide some of those receivers back, or you know, 761 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: Levion Bell, you want to move him back. I'm okay 762 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: with that. Yeah see, I'm totally with you, Levion Bell 763 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: and Todd Gurley at five and six, there's no way 764 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: Julio Jones and for the wide receiver, Julio Jones was 765 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: number four and the number two was Antonio Brown. To me, 766 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: and I always say this, it's the quarterbacks that makes 767 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: the receiver, not the other way around. You can say 768 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: what you want about how good they've got to be 769 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: to get open or get the guy when you've got 770 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: a quarterback throwing it. You know, Ben Rothisberger's not on 771 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: this list. And I saw him hang forty two points 772 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: on the Jacksonville defense last year in the playoff. I'm 773 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: pretty sure Gurley led the league in rushing. And he 774 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: also had almost twenty one hundred yards from scrimmage. I 775 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: mean sixty four catches for seven hundred and eighty eight yards. 776 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm not putting aheaded. I'm not putting him ahead of 777 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald and nineteen total touchdowns. I'm not putting him 778 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: ahead Aaron Donald. So Aaron Donald's is a monster and 779 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: you know he's doing it down inside a deep of tackle. 780 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I still remember him at the Senior Bowl 781 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: several years ago. Yeah, and he's just so low to 782 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: the ground man, you can't get under his pants, and 783 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: low man wins. And he's just he's the low man 784 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: every man with a lot of power and that that 785 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: makes a difference. He's just so compact and we're you know, 786 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: but Gurley did have a career year, so I understand 787 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: why he's in the top ten. I just don't know. 788 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: If I go quite that high, I'd probably slide him back, 789 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 1: probably stick him and ate where breeze is. Slide breeze 790 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 1: all the way up to four. Move Julio Jones back. 791 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: He was in and out of the lineup this past year, 792 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: wasn't he He was? He's always got something Julio Jones's. 793 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: I want to look up his stands real quick. He's 794 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: a fantastic He's a fantastic player, no question about him. 795 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: He's got you know, he's got Matt Ryan throwing him 796 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: the football, and I you know, I just have but 797 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: I just don't remember him doing a whole lot. That's 798 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: the thing that it gets me like he's had big years, 799 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: no question about it, But yeah, was this one of 800 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: his best to make him a top five guy? Boy? 801 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: I don't know. We're getting some feedback on our Twitter 802 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: poll as well. We got what's your favorite Buffalo Bill's 803 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: individual performance over a seat course of a season and 804 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: cast tweets in nineteen ninety one, For my money, it 805 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: was the best year, most dominant of the Super Bowl teams, 806 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: unstoppaball offense, Thurman Thomas MVP ran roughshot over the entire 807 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: conference in the regular season, plus an unforgettable title game 808 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: win over Denver. That's true that I'll tell you the 809 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: title game over Denver back in the night in the 810 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,439 Speaker 1: Super Bowl era was a ten to seven win over Denver. 811 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: That was a hard fought championship game and it wasn't 812 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: very high flying. It was a ten to seven game, 813 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: and they scored late to get it to to get 814 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: it to ten seven, and then it was you know, 815 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: a fumble recovered by Kirby Jackson, a forced fumble recovery 816 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: to ice the game, to keep John Elway from going 817 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 1: in and scoring him to win it. So it was 818 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: that was a total team win, no question about it 819 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: a Thurman being an MVP of the league that year. Yeah, 820 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: that was a great season by him, and that was 821 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: definitely up up there on that list. You can get 822 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: in on this conversation if you want, who's your favorite 823 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill season individual performance of all time? Eight h 824 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: three oh five fifty one eighty eight, fifty two, five 825 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 1: fifty You were Steve Task and Chris brown On on 826 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: one Bill's Live and Brownie you have something to add 827 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: to this too. I mean, I'm sure that this Buffalo, 828 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: this top ten thing, it all ends up at the 829 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: top where Tom Brady lives at this number one thing. 830 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: All the players in the league, they vote him as 831 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: the best guy. He's forty. Yeah, what are you doing 832 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: age discrimination now? No, I'm saying forty. And he was 833 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 1: gonna get traded two years ago for to San Francisco 834 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: and they ended up trading Garoppolo instead. Yeah, so what 835 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: do you saying a good shouldn't be one? How much 836 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: does win? Do wins count as as a statistic for 837 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 1: an individual player? I mean, I just think he's seen 838 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: as a winner. I think the other thing that helps 839 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: him is outside of on Kowski, there really isn't another 840 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: elite all world kind of player. I mean, Cooks was 841 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: a nice player for them, but I don't know if 842 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: someone would put him in the elite category. I mean 843 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: a Mendola and Edelman are are role players, you know, 844 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: they're role players. And so I think the quintessential argument 845 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: every time with Brady, at least those who believe he's 846 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 1: the best in the league, is he is the best 847 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: at raising the level of the players around him. I 848 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: think most people are of the belief that if Brady 849 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: is not quarterbacking that offense, Edelman's an ordinary player in 850 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: the slot, maybe getting fifty catches a season instead of 851 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: a hundred, you know, and Gronkowski's probably getting seven or 852 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: eight touchdowns a season instead of fifteen or sixteen. And 853 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: so I think that the prevailing argument over the years 854 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: has been no other quarter While there are other quarterbacks 855 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: who put up great statistics and win games, nobody raises 856 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: the level of the players around them better than Brady. 857 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot to be said for that, 858 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I mean, you're telling me he's 859 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: the goat, am I right? Yeah, As much as I 860 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,479 Speaker 1: hate to say it, because I think at some point 861 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: we talked about Drew Brees and his statistical achievements, which 862 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: are unrivaled. You still got to put in there those 863 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 1: two aspects. How many games did you win? How many 864 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: championships did you get to and win, and that that 865 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: thing that you mentioned. It's so hard to put your 866 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: finger on for all of these guys, particularly when you 867 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: start getting too different positions, do they make guys around 868 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: them better? And Tom Brady checks all those boxes. I 869 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: mean the guy that came closest to that, maybe from 870 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 1: your era, is probably Elway. I mean Elway didn't have 871 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: all world receivers. I mean he didn't have an Andre, 872 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: he didn't haven't he didn't even have a James Lofton. Yeah, 873 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He had Mark Jackson. I mean, 874 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like the guys he 875 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 1: had to man, I mean these guys weren't pro Bowl 876 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: wide receivers. Yeah. And I think Elway, probably from your era, 877 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: comes the closest to Brady in terms of raising the 878 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: level of I mean he went to five Super Bowls. 879 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: I mean now the last couple. Yes, he had an 880 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 1: ultra productive running game helping him, Terrell Davis and all that. 881 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,479 Speaker 1: He didn't have all world guys out there during his career. 882 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 1: Dan Reeves was his head coach. They butted heads a 883 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 1: lot because if you remember, John Elway was famous for 884 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: bringing guys that team back in the fourth quarter. One 885 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 1: of the reason they had to come back because Dan 886 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: Reeves wouldn't take the blinders off John Elway. He kind 887 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: of They ran the ball on first and second down, 888 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: then they threw it. And Elway forever in his early 889 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: in his career was bringing him back because finally they 890 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: when it was desperation time, he got to play the 891 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: kind of football he wanted to play. When Dan Reevees 892 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: finally left there, they were not They was acrimonious. But 893 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: think about the running backs even that he had Sammy 894 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: Winder and I mean are not. I mean they didn't 895 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: have a Therman Thomas in the backfield um, and they 896 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: didn't have Andre, they didn't have a James Lofton. They 897 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 1: I don't even know if they had a Pete menzel 898 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: Ar's a tight end. Really when you're when you go 899 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: back and look at the guys in my era. Yeah, 900 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: we can talk about this a little bit more after 901 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: the break, but you're right, John Elway stands alone as 902 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: one of the guys who was an absolute force as 903 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: a quarterback, playmaking huge. He had the biggest arm I've 904 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 1: ever seen, and uh yeah, he was an athlete too, 905 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: So I agree with that kind of I kind of 906 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: like in those two just in the way they raised 907 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: the level of the guys around him, not playing with 908 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,879 Speaker 1: all star rosters, so to speaking. We'll be back with more. 909 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live on One Bills Live, One 910 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Buildings. Stay 911 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: with me, man, I'm new at this and I knew 912 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: at this. Stay with this. We'll be back in a minute. 913 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. 914 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: Steve Task along with Chris Brown, You're on Buffalo Bill's Radio. 915 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,879 Speaker 1: We're talking about top ten individual performances of all time 916 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 1: for Buffalo Bills players. And we got a couple of 917 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: people who were chiming in on social media for on 918 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: the Twitter from tweet sheet, Fred Jackson one thousand yards 919 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: rushing and one thousand yards kick returning should be in 920 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: the top ten we were talking about that year. Didn't 921 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: he also have like five hundred yards of receiving three 922 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy one yards receiving on forty six catches. 923 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: He only had two hundred and thirty seven carries that year. 924 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: I think that was Marshawn's last year or second to 925 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: last year. Two hundred and thirty seven carries for one 926 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: thousand and sixty two yards. He averaged four and a 927 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: half a pop. Only had two rushing touchdowns, two receiving touchdowns, 928 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: but fourteen hundred thirty three scrimmage yards and then one 929 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 1: fourteen kick return yards. Steve he averaged twenty twenty four 930 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: point seven a kick return. That's not bad for a 931 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: running back that runs a four to five five. Returning 932 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 1: a lot of kicks that year too, though, well yeah, six, yeah, 933 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 1: let me see how many did you have? How many 934 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 1: did have? They were giving up a few points. They 935 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 1: give him a chance to get a thousand yards kick returns, 936 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, forty one. Yeah. Yes, get in on 937 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 1: this conversation by giving us a call at three oh 938 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: five fifty yard tweet at US at one bills Live. 939 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: We're talking Steve Tasker and Chris Brown. We're talking about 940 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: top performances. That's a good candidate, though, I mean, is 941 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,399 Speaker 1: that should have got consideration. And I knew we'd get 942 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: some Fred Jackson love when we put this out there, 943 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: what's your favorite Bills individual season of old time? And 944 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 1: we got one from Vince Gareno. The first time Thurman 945 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: led the league in yards from scrimmin was an amazing 946 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 1: individual performance. Yeah yard leading the league from yards from scrimmage. 947 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 1: Thurman did it, I think four times. I think he 948 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: did it four times in a rows. The first guy 949 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: to every good. Maybe still the only guy. I don't know, 950 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 1: Maybe somebody else has done it, but Thurman had that 951 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 1: stretch in there nineties. Man old man, he was. He 952 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 1: was all about it. Also from Alec Demski. London Fletcher 953 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: two thousand and sixth season. This guy was flying all 954 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: over the field, led the team in tackles, plus strong 955 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: locker room present, solid Bill for a few years, but 956 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: the two thousand and sixth season by London Fletcher makes 957 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 1: the how about that getting well? Fletcher getting nue She'll 958 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: check the numbers on that. I remember in two thousand 959 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: and two, his first year in a Bill's uniform. Now, 960 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 1: the Bill's coaching staff kept their own statistics even though 961 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: the league had theirs, and in two thousand and two 962 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: they had London Fletcher with like two hundred and six 963 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: tackles and I think the league only had one hundred 964 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 1: and eighty something, but still, I mean a productive season. Nonetheless, 965 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: but in two thousand and six, one hundred and one 966 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: tackles for London Fletcher, two sacks, four interceptions including one 967 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 1: return for a touchdown, fourteen pass breakups for your middle linebacker. 968 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. And he's not a tall guy. Well yeah, 969 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: that's the reason. I mean the people are thrown at 970 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: him because they think he's five nine. They don't, but 971 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: he can run and he had great him and great 972 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 1: ball skills. It was that wasn't a good year for him. 973 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: That's a career high in interceptions for him and one 974 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: hundred tackles on top of it. And I know he 975 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: led the team and tackles every year he was in 976 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: a Bills uniform. So there you go that that's a 977 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 1: good candidate. That's a good one by Alec. So chime 978 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 1: in if you've got an idea of who your favorite 979 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: Bills performer was of all time? What's great season? Do 980 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,800 Speaker 1: you remember Phonus at eight h three oh five fifty 981 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: or outside Buffalo one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. 982 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: You're with Chris Brown Steve Tasker on one Bills Live. 983 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: We're talking about all this stuff. We were talking also 984 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 1: about the NFL unveiling their top ten. Tom Brady is 985 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: number one, and that makes Bills fans I'm sure want 986 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,359 Speaker 1: to puke, but you got to tip your hat to him. 987 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 1: The guy's doing Aaron Rodgers squeaks in at number ten 988 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: after playing only six games during the season, and I 989 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: don't know, you know what. On the one hand, you 990 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,399 Speaker 1: know why the guy did it, because it's what he's 991 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 1: done a pat in the past. On the other hand, 992 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: this last year, I think there were some guys you 993 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,320 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is number three. He also only played in 994 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: eleven games. Thirteen games. That's a pretty good season. He 995 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 1: was well on his way to be in thirty three touchdowns, 996 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 1: seven pigs. Was lighten it up and good for him. 997 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 1: My only issue is he only threw for thirty two 998 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 1: hundred yards, Like, are you number three if you're only 999 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: throwing for thirty two hundred I mean, I know he 1000 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: was productive from a touchdown standpoint. He was winning games, man, 1001 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: and that carries a lot of weight when you're at 1002 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: that position. You know, Julio Jones and Levion Bell and 1003 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley who are four, five and six, they're not 1004 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 1: getting any credit for winning games, right Julio. I looked 1005 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: it up. He did that fourteen hundred yards receiving last year. 1006 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: He only had three touchdowns though, So you know, for 1007 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 1: a guy, unfortunately he's the victim of his own standard 1008 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 1: because in twenty fifteen when went to when they went 1009 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,280 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, he had eighteen hundred yards receiving 1010 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: in like fifteen touchdowns. So when you have fourteen hundred 1011 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: and three touchdowns, I don't know if he should be 1012 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 1: in the top ten. Still, I've listened listen, I've listened 1013 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 1: to this too, and I say this all the time. 1014 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 1: This is what happened at the end of Jim Kelly's career, 1015 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: and it's what happens at the end of a lot 1016 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: of great players career as Jerry Rice, all these guys. 1017 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 1: You start comparing them to themselves, and nobody stands up 1018 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 1: to that, right, you know. They you know when you 1019 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 1: get to be thirty eight forty, you're only going to 1020 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: have a career best season once that's that's right, And 1021 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: you start comparing them to them and that's why these 1022 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: quarterbacks at the end of their career, they're throwing for 1023 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: thirty eight hundred yards and twenty five touchdowns and ten interceptions, 1024 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 1: and people are like going, wow, they stink. Yeah, that's 1025 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: what he's like. Wait a minute, what are you talking 1026 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 1: about the guys throwing for almost four thousand yards and 1027 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: twenty five touchdowns. Shut up and sit down. But that's 1028 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 1: the way it happens. All right, We're gonna continue with 1029 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 1: this conversation. You can get in on it if you want. 1030 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: We'll take some calls maybe after the break. We got 1031 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: an update coming and also Vincent Monsignori, the LA Beat 1032 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 1: writers coming on and talk about the Rams, their new 1033 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: stadium and what's going on out there. They're kind of 1034 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 1: trying to win. Now out there, we're gonna talk about 1035 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: their names they've signed. You're listening to One Bills Live 1036 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Bo Bills 1037 00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 1: Radio Network Sports Update. You're Sports Update here on One 1038 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 1: Bill's Live. The NFL finalized their top one hundred players 1039 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 1: of twenty eighteen, and for the second straight year, Patriots 1040 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,879 Speaker 1: quarterback Tom Brady comes in at number one. Antonio Brown, 1041 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,800 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, Julio Jones and Levion Bell rounded out the 1042 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 1: top five. Speaking of Levion Bell, the Steelers running back 1043 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,240 Speaker 1: continues his holdout, but on the top NFL the NFL 1044 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: Top one hundred reveal last night, he said he's optimistic 1045 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 1: about reaching an agreement on a new contract and that 1046 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 1: could come before training camp begins this next month. Recently 1047 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: retired NFL official Gene s Territory has officially been announced 1048 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,839 Speaker 1: by CBS as their new rules analyst. Sterator, who spent 1049 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,440 Speaker 1: fifteen years officiating in the NFL, will provide analysts from 1050 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,240 Speaker 1: CBS Broadcast Center in New York. The Buffalo Sabers announced 1051 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 1: they've qualified six restricted free agents, including former number former 1052 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 1: first round draft pick Sam Reinhardt. Also qualified are Nick Baptiste, 1053 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 1: Justin Bailey, Sean Malone, dany O'Regan, and CJ. Smith. In 1054 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 1: the NBA last Night, the Rocket, It's named Jim No. 1055 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: In the NBA Last Night, the Rockets, James Harden was 1056 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: awarded the NBA MVP after his career season in Houston. 1057 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 1: Harden was the league scoring champ, averaging over thirty points 1058 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: a game and helped the Rockets to a franchise record 1059 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:20,919 Speaker 1: sixty five wins. FIFA World Cup Action, Peru defeats Australia 1060 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: to nothing. Denmark and France are scoreless, and later this 1061 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:30,320 Speaker 1: afternoon it's Iceland and Croatia and Nigeria versus Argentina, and finally, 1062 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 1: in baseball, the Bisons continue their four game homestand with 1063 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: the Pawtucket Red Sox. First pitch is tonight at seven 1064 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 1: oh five downtown at Cocoa at Coca Cola Field. That 1065 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: is your sports update on One Bills Live. We are 1066 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 1: joined now on the Subway Fresh Take Hotline by the 1067 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 1: LA News Rams Slash NFL columnists and five seventy AMLA 1068 00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,799 Speaker 1: Sports Rams insider Vincent bunsing, your I hope I said 1069 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 1: that right, Vincent. You're with Steve Tasker and Chris Brown 1070 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live. Did I get that right? Or 1071 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,799 Speaker 1: was I even in the ballpark? Vincent? Absolutely? And uh, 1072 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,439 Speaker 1: you know, living as an Italian living in California, I'm 1073 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 1: originally from New York, but it's gotten butchered over the years. 1074 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 1: So you're fine, You're You're You're totally get them. Well. 1075 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, impressed. I appreciate you extending me that grace. 1076 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 1: We're here to talk to you about the rams of 1077 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 1: a lot going on in that offseason. You guys have 1078 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 1: been neck deep and gotten signings and really big name guys. 1079 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 1: You go down the list, you're two Corners and Marcus 1080 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,400 Speaker 1: Peters and a key to leave you signed in Dominican 1081 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,479 Speaker 1: Sue and Brandon Cooks as well. You got you gotta 1082 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 1: win now, am I right? You know? Yeah, there's no 1083 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 1: there's no question that this has win now. But really, 1084 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: when you look at the age of of of most 1085 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 1: of these guys, at least Marcus Peters and Brandon Cooks, 1086 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 1: and when you add in Todd Gurley and Aaron Donald 1087 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 1: and Jared Goff, They're not just looking to win now. 1088 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 1: These are young foundation pieces that they planned to and 1089 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,840 Speaker 1: hope to to build around. Um, you know, all of 1090 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 1: these guys are twenty six years and under. Aside from 1091 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: Sue and talib who it looks like they've got, you know, 1092 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,320 Speaker 1: considerable gas left in the tank, but the route, but 1093 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 1: more importantly are the Cooks and the Donalds, and the 1094 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 1: Girlies and the and Peters. These are players that they 1095 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 1: want to build around, not just right now, but for 1096 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: the long term. How do you feel the blend is 1097 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 1: going to play out. What did you observe during spring practices. 1098 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure everything's you know, sunshines and sunshine and pixie 1099 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 1: sticks right now. But obviously Marcus Peters comes over. He 1100 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 1: certainly has a reputation of not being the best of 1101 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 1: teammates at all times. And Dominican Sue has had his 1102 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 1: issues over the course of his career, more with officials 1103 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 1: in the league than maybe with teammates. But has anybody asked, 1104 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's coach McVeigh or less sneat about 1105 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 1: the chemistry blend there, knowing these two guys have had 1106 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,239 Speaker 1: their share of issues. Yeah, and and absolutely and there's 1107 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,360 Speaker 1: there's no question about that. We've talked to markets about it. 1108 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: And one thing that Marcus stresses that, um, you know 1109 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,359 Speaker 1: it has acknowledged some of the issues, but maintains very 1110 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 1: strongly that you know, it's limited to on the field. 1111 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 1: There's been some anger issues that have caused some you know, penalties, 1112 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,760 Speaker 1: except the penalties that uh, you know, ill opportune times 1113 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 1: that have that have caught himself and his team. But 1114 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,880 Speaker 1: you know, he stressed his look, it's it's what happens 1115 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,320 Speaker 1: on the field. I want to win really bad and 1116 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 1: sometimes that gets the best to me. He's working on that. 1117 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: But from the Rounds perspective, I think that there's confidence 1118 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 1: and condiction in the leadership that's in place, not just 1119 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 1: from Sean McBay, whose years ahead of his thirty one 1120 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 1: years here here on earth, he seems like a guy 1121 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 1: that's been around for much much longer than that. And 1122 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: obviously Wage Phillips, who's dealt with every personality that you 1123 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,760 Speaker 1: can possibly think of in his long career in the NFL. 1124 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 1: And then you go into the locker room, you're Andrew 1125 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: Worths and and Donald's, uh, you know, and Todd Gurley's 1126 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:07,239 Speaker 1: guys that they believe create a strong presence in the 1127 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 1: locker room in order to not just embrace these guys 1128 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 1: but also and not necessarily keep them in line, but 1129 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,360 Speaker 1: all but you know, remind them what the task here is. 1130 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,879 Speaker 1: You know, what the goals are, what the objectives are, 1131 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 1: and the importance of when you're on the field to 1132 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 1: maintain because they can't afford, you know, costly penalties that 1133 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: at the worst possible time. So to answer your question, 1134 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 1: there's a belief from the coaching standpoint and also in 1135 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 1: the locker room that they are equipped to deal with 1136 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 1: the kind of personalities that they added to this in Yeah, 1137 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: there's no question they've got a lot of talent, and 1138 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 1: it looks like they're you know, it looks like a 1139 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 1: super team on paper. But you know, as we've all 1140 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: seen in years past, when other teams have tried to 1141 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,880 Speaker 1: assemble a lot of talent, sometimes it doesn't come together. 1142 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 1: But it certainly suit should be exciting for the LA 1143 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,919 Speaker 1: fan base. Talk about what they're going through. They're waiting 1144 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,319 Speaker 1: for their new stadium to be built. It'll be done 1145 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:00,839 Speaker 1: in a couple of years. But this is a team 1146 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,800 Speaker 1: that is going to be pretty easy to get behind, 1147 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,319 Speaker 1: particularly early in the season when when there's so much 1148 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,839 Speaker 1: excitement about this roster. Talk about the vibe out there 1149 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 1: in LA and how you know, you can see the 1150 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,239 Speaker 1: stadium being built, and you know they're gonna have to 1151 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,759 Speaker 1: struggle through a couple of years in the coliseum. Whether 1152 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,719 Speaker 1: that's a struggle or not. But if this team puts 1153 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 1: does put it together, how are they being received out there? 1154 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot of doubt in old time football cities 1155 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 1: in the East about how much love there is in 1156 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 1: LA ultimately for the Rams or any other football team. 1157 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 1: There's definitely a strong foundation um here for the Rams. 1158 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,279 Speaker 1: You know, let's keep in mind they were here for 1159 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,320 Speaker 1: forty some odd years, you know, prior to leaving for 1160 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 1: for twenty one years in Saint Louis. That costs them 1161 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 1: a lot um you know, to backtrack a little bit, 1162 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 1: and I don't know if I can't remember if you've 1163 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 1: played the Rams out here, especially definitely not at the Coliseum, 1164 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 1: but but Anaheim, Yeah, I mean, even that costs them. 1165 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,400 Speaker 1: You know, they went from downtown Los Angeles to Anaheim, 1166 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 1: which doesn't seem like a big move, but it was 1167 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,800 Speaker 1: a big move. It cost them dearly in Los Angeles 1168 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,480 Speaker 1: and who you know backfilled them immediately were the Raiders 1169 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 1: and they captured a lot of the attention in Los 1170 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 1: Angeles in that part of southern California. So going all 1171 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 1: the way back to nineteen seventy nine when they moved 1172 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 1: from LA to Anaheim and then obviously left the state 1173 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 1: to go to Missouri, it cost them their place alongside 1174 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: the Dodgers and the Lakers because that's really where they were. 1175 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 1: They were amongst those iconic franchises here in Los Angeles. 1176 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 1: And it's going to take some work to reclaim that 1177 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 1: this is basically a Lakers town. I'd even say the 1178 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 1: Dodgers are a little bit behind the Lakers, and they're 1179 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 1: huge in their own right, so finding their niche here 1180 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 1: is going to take time. Obviously, they cast themselves tremendously 1181 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 1: that first year when it was just a bad football 1182 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 1: team that arrived here from Saint Louis. It was boring, 1183 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 1: there wasn't much personality. The offense was horrible behind the times, 1184 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 1: and I'm not exaggerating when I say that that's the 1185 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 1: reality of the situation. But to their credit, they were 1186 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 1: immediately able to turn that around. And they give so 1187 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 1: much credit to Sean mcveay for what he brought to offense, 1188 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, and all of a sudden, you're talking about 1189 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,680 Speaker 1: and they add obviously added added key players, and you're 1190 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 1: talking now about on paper, one of the more exciting 1191 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: offenses in the NFL. And you add a Brandon Cooks 1192 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 1: who replaces Sammy Watkins. And nothing against Sammy Watkins, but 1193 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 1: just observing Brandon in OTAs and Mini Camp, there's a 1194 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: level of expertise that he brings to his position that 1195 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 1: goes beyond what Sammy brought. Sammy brought that home run hitter, 1196 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 1: mentality and presence and never quite materialize on the field. 1197 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 1: But I just look at Brandon Cooks and there's more 1198 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,480 Speaker 1: levels to his game than Sammy had. Not to take 1199 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,439 Speaker 1: anything away from Sammy, but I think Brandon Cooks gets more, 1200 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 1: just better in this offense, bringing what he brings to 1201 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 1: the to the table alongside Todd Gurley and Robert Woods 1202 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 1: and Jared Goff emerging into a top clear quarterback. So 1203 00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,959 Speaker 1: but to answer your question, they've got to keep winning. 1204 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 1: They've got to keep putting a good product on the field. 1205 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 1: They believe that they will, and over the long haul, 1206 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 1: they'll reclaim some of what they lost when they left 1207 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 1: for same. Look, I do have to ask you, Vincent, 1208 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 1: because I mean a lot of Bills fans after that 1209 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 1: trade was made last summer, were keeping their eye on 1210 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 1: what Watkins was going to be able to do in 1211 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 1: that offense, almost to kind of gauge whether the trade 1212 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 1: was worth it for a second round pick. In EJ. Gaines, 1213 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 1: it's kind of ironic that neither of the players involved 1214 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,920 Speaker 1: in the trade or with those teams anymore just a 1215 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,840 Speaker 1: year later. But you know, I know you kind of 1216 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 1: touched on it. Briefly there. But what do you think 1217 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 1: was the main disconnect as to why Sammy never really 1218 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 1: got you know, assimilated to that offense, you know, knowing 1219 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 1: he got there at the same exact time as Robert Woods. 1220 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 1: I know Robert Woods had a full offseason to kind 1221 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 1: of get himself assimilated. But still in all I mean, 1222 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 1: this guy is an enormous physical talent, I think as 1223 00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 1: everybody knows. But what kept him from truly getting in 1224 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 1: great and becoming a feature part of that offense? Such 1225 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 1: a great question, and I think you touched on him 1226 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 1: a little bit. He did get here late. I think 1227 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,480 Speaker 1: it was the first preseason game, or right after the 1228 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 1: first preseason game, maybe even a little bit later. I 1229 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 1: gotta look back on that, but it was towards the 1230 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 1: end of training camp, you know, they were starting to 1231 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:20,440 Speaker 1: get into game phase even in the preseason, just that schedule, 1232 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: so he didn't have an entire offseason with Jared Goffin. 1233 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:29,040 Speaker 1: Let's remember, everybody was putting in that new system last year. 1234 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 1: This was a brand new system that Sean mcday brought 1235 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 1: with him, and it was light years different from the 1236 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 1: previous regime under Jeff Fisher. So everyone was, there was 1237 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 1: a learning curve for everyone, and then all of a 1238 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 1: sudden you asked Sammy Watkins at the very tale end 1239 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,480 Speaker 1: and tried to rush it all together. It just never 1240 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,960 Speaker 1: quite worked. Now I look at, you know, some of 1241 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 1: the offenses that he played in, you guys would be 1242 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 1: better to to, you know, touch on that. I don't know. 1243 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 1: It just never seemed like Buffalo had a high flying 1244 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 1: kind of an offense, or it seemed like, you know, 1245 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,920 Speaker 1: in the years that he was there as more centered 1246 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 1: around the run game and maybe not as flashy in 1247 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 1: the past game. That's why I look at Brandon Cooks 1248 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 1: he comes from, look at the offenses that he came 1249 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 1: from New Orleans, New England. Those are pretty high level offenses, 1250 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,800 Speaker 1: and he's already if you talk to the coaches and 1251 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 1: him and some of the teammates, he's already picked up 1252 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 1: the offense here pretty quickly. I think his experience in 1253 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,320 Speaker 1: other high level offenses really helps him, whereas maybe Sammy 1254 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 1: Watkins didn't have that foundation coming from Buffalo to LA. 1255 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 1: We're speaking with Vincent Bunsen, your LA News Rams Insider 1256 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 1: and also five seventy AMLA Sports Rams Insider and Vincent 1257 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,400 Speaker 1: I got to ask you again, You're coming into the 1258 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 1: second year of the Sean McVeigh era, and you've mentioned 1259 01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks has already assimilated, He's getting the offense down. 1260 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 1: Is are they going to be able to evolve even 1261 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 1: further as a novel? I mean they were hanging thirty 1262 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 1: points on seemingly everybody last year. Robert Woods coming back, 1263 01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, Todd Gurley, now Brandon Cooks. You've got the 1264 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:04,080 Speaker 1: guys to come back. Are they really has the bar 1265 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 1: been raised almost to an unrealistic level by what they're 1266 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 1: going to be able expected to be able to hang 1267 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,640 Speaker 1: on other opponents again this year? Well, if if it has, 1268 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,080 Speaker 1: they're not acting like it um and they believe. I 1269 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 1: go back to even you know, toward the end of 1270 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 1: last year or at the end of last year, when 1271 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 1: you talked to Sean about, you know, his thoughts on 1272 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,240 Speaker 1: the season that just passed, and you know, there were 1273 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,480 Speaker 1: things that he felt like they can absolutely do better. 1274 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 1: He wants to get his tight end more involved. That 1275 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,400 Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily the case last year. He definitely wants the 1276 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,920 Speaker 1: long ball to be a bigger part of the arsenal, 1277 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,640 Speaker 1: and I think Brandon Cooks definitely helps uh in that regard, 1278 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 1: even in a way that that Sammy didn't. So yeah, 1279 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 1: they they they absolutely And if you talk to someone 1280 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, uh, Jared Gopp and guys like that, they're 1281 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 1: not just you know, remember they were going through a 1282 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 1: learning curve last year. It was the first year in 1283 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 1: Sean mcveay's offense, and and you talk to guys now 1284 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,520 Speaker 1: and in the meeting rooms and when they're installing plays, 1285 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 1: it's like it's next level. It's next level stuff. That's 1286 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,880 Speaker 1: to be expected because it is his second year Sean mcveay, 1287 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 1: it's his second year running things, and his offense is 1288 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:13,360 Speaker 1: just growing and expanding. So, I mean, are they going 1289 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 1: to average thirty points the game this year? I don't know. 1290 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,680 Speaker 1: That's hard, it's it's hard to say that. But then 1291 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 1: you look at the talent on hand and you and 1292 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 1: the fact that there's only one new player and that's 1293 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. An upgrade I think to this eleven man 1294 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 1: starting unit. Yeah, they couldn't. They should be able to 1295 01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 1: with the talent that they have, and I think that 1296 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,560 Speaker 1: they're probably going to be a little bit better in 1297 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 1: the red zone. Last year, Greg Zerline converted a lot 1298 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 1: of field goals that they would have rather have been touchdowns. 1299 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,600 Speaker 1: I would suspect that their success they're converting touchdowns as 1300 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 1: opposed to field goals probably gets a little bit better. 1301 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,440 Speaker 1: So maybe they don't average thirty points the game, but 1302 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,120 Speaker 1: maybe the offense is a little bit more proficient and efficient, 1303 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 1: especially when they get into that area of the field, 1304 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 1: and maybe by that measure they are overall a better offense. 1305 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,880 Speaker 1: It might not really more points, but maybe more efficiency. 1306 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 1: What about the other side of the ball, though, I mean, 1307 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 1: there's no secret that you know, their run defense left 1308 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 1: a lot to be desired. Now, I don't know if 1309 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,040 Speaker 1: that ranking of twenty eighth is truly fair where they 1310 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 1: may have had just a bad three or four game 1311 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,200 Speaker 1: stretch that compromise their numbers at the end of the year. 1312 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,120 Speaker 1: And I know they've tried to fortify the run front, 1313 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 1: you know, at least with Sue on the one year deal, 1314 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 1: and you know, I think they what they do They 1315 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 1: resigned or acquired another guy upfront, Dominic Easley. You know, 1316 01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,920 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be a rotational guy at best. But 1317 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, you look at the linebackers at the second level, 1318 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 1: you know, in the veterans they traded away. Do we 1319 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,440 Speaker 1: really expect the run defense to be noticeably better just 1320 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 1: because you'll have Sue and Donald up there and you 1321 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,640 Speaker 1: can have a couple of no name guys at linebacker. 1322 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 1: What's the general consensus out there? Well, you know, right 1323 01:04:56,200 --> 01:05:01,320 Speaker 1: now it's definitely a linebacker for sure. Is uncertain. Um. 1324 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,680 Speaker 1: They believe that they have the adequate and sufficient replacements 1325 01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,720 Speaker 1: for trading away Um alec Olsiltree, they're inside linebacker. Um, 1326 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,920 Speaker 1: trading Robert Quinn, losing Connor Barwins if they didn't bring 1327 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,440 Speaker 1: back in free agency. Um. But you know, uh, from 1328 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,720 Speaker 1: the outside looking in, you see that they've changed their 1329 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 1: linebackers and they got rid of an alec Oldiletree, who 1330 01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, had another ninety tackle season. But from the inside, 1331 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, uh, and and you know, Wade Phillips took 1332 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 1: a year to look at this roster in his side 1333 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 1: of the ball, and his determination was, you know, we 1334 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 1: need to get better at cornerback, which they did obviously 1335 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,760 Speaker 1: with Marcus Peters and tal Leap and he feels like 1336 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 1: their presence and then Sue playing defensive tackle, Um, or 1337 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 1: excuse me, he's going to be a nose guard. To 1338 01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,800 Speaker 1: start at least to start off with that. Even though 1339 01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:55,280 Speaker 1: they lost inside linebacker in Alec Oldilstree as a solid player, 1340 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 1: they feel like they can do better at that position 1341 01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 1: for a little bit less money. As he says that 1342 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,280 Speaker 1: in his defense, um, in the three four defense, inside 1343 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 1: linebackers have a very specific role, but they're not reliant 1344 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 1: upon as much as the two cover cornerbacks and the 1345 01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,080 Speaker 1: defensive line. So they feel by by stirring it up 1346 01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 1: a little bit and and re you know, Red, putting 1347 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 1: some different pieces in place, that they're going to be 1348 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,920 Speaker 1: better off against the run. And it was it wasn't deceiving. 1349 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,680 Speaker 1: They rallied it together a little bit, and especially in 1350 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 1: second alps against the run, and you know, towards the 1351 01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,840 Speaker 1: end of the season, but it wasn't where it needed 1352 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,720 Speaker 1: to be. And definitely it was a it was an 1353 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,960 Speaker 1: area that they wanted to address and they feel like 1354 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 1: by getting a little bit younger and bringing in some 1355 01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,640 Speaker 1: some inside linebackers that fit better in the three four defense, 1356 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 1: that they'll be better off for it. But we'll have 1357 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:45,600 Speaker 1: to see. It's still a question mark at this point. 1358 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 1: We're with Vincent bonson you're the LA Daily News talking 1359 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,760 Speaker 1: about the Net, the La Rams and their offseason, how 1360 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,080 Speaker 1: it's gone. I want to talk to you about one 1361 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,919 Speaker 1: more thing that's kind of interesting to me. The Rams 1362 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 1: are build a new stadium. Have you seen it? Did 1363 01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 1: you get to take the tour or they take They 1364 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,480 Speaker 1: gave the Layers and the Rams a day off on 1365 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,640 Speaker 1: the final day of Mini camp to go get a 1366 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,360 Speaker 1: tour through the new stadium. Um, what's the timeline is 1367 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 1: and is it going to be like one of these 1368 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 1: other new stadiums. It's going to be even more special 1369 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 1: than we can imagine. I mean, it's gonna be all 1370 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 1: kinds of bells and whistles. What's going to be so 1371 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 1: special about the rams new stadium? Well, um, yeah, I 1372 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:22,080 Speaker 1: was at the I was at that tour, and it's 1373 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 1: it's going to be spectacular. There's no question about it. 1374 01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,440 Speaker 1: This is not just a stadium. This is a three 1375 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,600 Speaker 1: hundred development that's going to have you know, restaurants and 1376 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 1: bars and office space and all of that to go 1377 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,680 Speaker 1: to go with the NFL network is going to be there. Um, 1378 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 1: But the stadium itself it's coming along. It's scheduled to 1379 01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,320 Speaker 1: open in twenty twenty um, and they're on target. For that. 1380 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 1: It looks great every time I pass it. Um, whether 1381 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,000 Speaker 1: it's from the air, looking down from an airplane or 1382 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,680 Speaker 1: just driving path that it just keeps getting bigger and 1383 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:57,280 Speaker 1: better and more progress. Um, so they're everyone's excited about it. 1384 01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,520 Speaker 1: It was funny because that at that tour, we all 1385 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:03,040 Speaker 1: went over to the their sales center and which that's 1386 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,600 Speaker 1: where you go to buy your suits and they bring it, 1387 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, fans and ticket holders for tours there to 1388 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,160 Speaker 1: look at what's gonna what's coming, and it was it 1389 01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,280 Speaker 1: was funny for me or interesting for me to watch 1390 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,960 Speaker 1: the player's reaction to it. I was in with Jared Gofflin, 1391 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,960 Speaker 1: one of the salespeople, was you know, putting his pitch 1392 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,040 Speaker 1: on one of the sweeps, and I gotta say Jared 1393 01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,840 Speaker 1: didn't blink at the four hundred thousand dollars price tag 1394 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,120 Speaker 1: and twenty year commitment. He was asking some pretty interesting questions. 1395 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:30,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if he's going to try to 1396 01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:37,000 Speaker 1: gobble one up as four hundred thousand dollars and a 1397 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,719 Speaker 1: twenty year commitment. And and you know, it was funny 1398 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,600 Speaker 1: because Jared said, so this is the top of the 1399 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,919 Speaker 1: Line's like, no, actually, not. There's another set of suits, 1400 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,360 Speaker 1: which is it's you're going to have access to all 1401 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:53,080 Speaker 1: the events with with this particular suite, except for I 1402 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,599 Speaker 1: think it's the opening and closing ceremonies the Olympics when 1403 01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 1: that comes here, and there's a couple of other World 1404 01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:01,680 Speaker 1: Cup final I think you don't get access to it 1405 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,880 Speaker 1: for that. But there's another set of which they've already 1406 01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:06,479 Speaker 1: sold out. By the way, I think there were twenty 1407 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,920 Speaker 1: of them. Um, it's eight hundred thousand dollars on a 1408 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,840 Speaker 1: twenty year commitment, so um, yeah, yeah, they've they've they've 1409 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,960 Speaker 1: already sold those out, and and Jared asks, He's like, 1410 01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 1: you know, so, can you tell me who who's boo 1411 01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,200 Speaker 1: has bought the eight hundred thousand dollars ones? Like, Hey, 1412 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 1: we're not at liberty to say, but suffice to say 1413 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,400 Speaker 1: it's Banks studios. You know, obviously you have all the 1414 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:30,240 Speaker 1: Hollywood studios there, entertainment people. They're going to use that 1415 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,200 Speaker 1: to wine and dine clients and themselves and all that. 1416 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 1: So yeah, um that that that that sold immediately. Those 1417 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,320 Speaker 1: It's funny because you talk to the you know, the 1418 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,080 Speaker 1: sales people, and they're like, the higher end ones are 1419 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,360 Speaker 1: the easiest seals. There's people in Los Angeles who just 1420 01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,439 Speaker 1: like to be, you know, in that kind of a 1421 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,800 Speaker 1: kind of an atmosphere. The challenge now, um is going 1422 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,680 Speaker 1: to be selling the general population seats, which will all 1423 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,640 Speaker 1: come with with you know, a PSL price tag to 1424 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,200 Speaker 1: go with if they've structured it so that you know, 1425 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,120 Speaker 1: if you're if you're a family that wants to be 1426 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,840 Speaker 1: part of this, there's going to be pricing that fits 1427 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:10,280 Speaker 1: pretty much everybody, from that eight hundred thousand dollars price 1428 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,439 Speaker 1: tag on a twenty year commitment down to you know, 1429 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,120 Speaker 1: folks who just want to come and enjoy the and 1430 01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,360 Speaker 1: enjoy a game at a great at a great stadium. 1431 01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,720 Speaker 1: So but that's a process that's unfolding and we'll see 1432 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,559 Speaker 1: how it goes. It's not just for the rounds. Keep 1433 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,479 Speaker 1: in mind, it's the Chargers are also part of that process, 1434 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,479 Speaker 1: and they have to find their own niche and their 1435 01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,800 Speaker 1: fan base here in Los Angeles. So it'll be an 1436 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,240 Speaker 1: interesting next couple of years for sure. So refresh our 1437 01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,000 Speaker 1: memory if you could a little bit, because I remember 1438 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,160 Speaker 1: seeing all the initial renderings and some of our viewers 1439 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,479 Speaker 1: on MSG you're seeing that right now. But is it 1440 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,560 Speaker 1: going to be kind of an all glass roof on 1441 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 1: the stadium number one? And then shed some light if 1442 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:47,840 Speaker 1: you could, on how the tenant agreement is going to 1443 01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:52,439 Speaker 1: work with the Chargers. And finally, is the Rams practice 1444 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,960 Speaker 1: facility going to be on that property as well? Uh? No, 1445 01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:00,120 Speaker 1: the the the practice facility for either team is going 1446 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,960 Speaker 1: to be there. Right now, the Rams are in Thousand Oaks, 1447 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,360 Speaker 1: which is a little bit north of Los Angeles. They 1448 01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,920 Speaker 1: kind of when they were you know, plotting their moves 1449 01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,080 Speaker 1: to come out here, um, they wanted to look for 1450 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,840 Speaker 1: an area that was going to see a sit for Obviously, 1451 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 1: the players can look wherever they want, but their one 1452 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,360 Speaker 1: hundred or so employees that made the move with them, 1453 01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,080 Speaker 1: they wanted to be in a place where it was 1454 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,800 Speaker 1: a little bit more affordable. Sixty thousand dollars goes pretty 1455 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,600 Speaker 1: far in San Louis, not so much in southern California, 1456 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:29,920 Speaker 1: so they wanted to make it a little bit easier 1457 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 1: for them. They found a great spot for right now, 1458 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:35,439 Speaker 1: it's still temporary at cal Lutheran University, but they are 1459 01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,600 Speaker 1: in search of a you know, a bigger headquarters and 1460 01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,720 Speaker 1: they haven't quite singled out a place yet. Or come 1461 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,839 Speaker 1: up with a place yet, but that's that's in progress. 1462 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,800 Speaker 1: The right the Chargers are in um Coast to Maasa, 1463 01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,280 Speaker 1: which is an Orange County um we'll see what their 1464 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,120 Speaker 1: long term plan is a sort as the stadium, it's 1465 01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,839 Speaker 1: not glass the way it's described. It's some kind of material, 1466 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,600 Speaker 1: but it opens up to the sky. So while it 1467 01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:00,840 Speaker 1: isn't closed, because they do you want to have final 1468 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 1: fours and concerts and everything that comes love WWE all 1469 01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,439 Speaker 1: that is going to be at this stadium. You're still 1470 01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,120 Speaker 1: going to have access to the sky and the sun, 1471 01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,880 Speaker 1: but you'll be protected from it. It does get hot, 1472 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:18,240 Speaker 1: really hot here during football season and LA summers Southern 1473 01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 1: California summers extend well into October and it banks here, 1474 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,880 Speaker 1: so they wanted some protection for that and also have 1475 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,639 Speaker 1: the flexibility to be able to have big time events 1476 01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,280 Speaker 1: which stay well. And as far as the tenant agreement, 1477 01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:36,200 Speaker 1: obviously this is being paid for and bought and constructed 1478 01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,360 Speaker 1: by Stan Cronky, he owns the Rams. The Chargers are 1479 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,800 Speaker 1: coming here rent free. They don't have to pay one 1480 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,920 Speaker 1: dollars of rent and for their you know, during the 1481 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,120 Speaker 1: Right Think gets a thirty year lease at this point 1482 01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:50,960 Speaker 1: so they came. They didn't have to put any money 1483 01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,200 Speaker 1: toward toward construction. They do have to pay a big 1484 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:58,759 Speaker 1: time transfer feed moving from San Diego to Los Angeles, 1485 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,080 Speaker 1: so they have to account for that. Do the do 1486 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:04,200 Speaker 1: the rams move from Saint Louis to to LA But 1487 01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 1: chargers are free and easy. They come here as tenants, 1488 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,160 Speaker 1: but they don't have to pay any rent um. That's 1489 01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,160 Speaker 1: all on Stan Crockey in the RAM. So just one 1490 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,840 Speaker 1: one last thing on the roof here, because you're telling 1491 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,200 Speaker 1: me how hot it does get in southern California, and 1492 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm thinking greenhouse effect here looking at some of these 1493 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,439 Speaker 1: renderings and I'm just wondering the size of the HVAC 1494 01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,519 Speaker 1: units they're gonna have out here just to keep that 1495 01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:30,720 Speaker 1: keep that place climate controlled. Yeah, and there there will 1496 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,320 Speaker 1: be I believe if you look on the side of 1497 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,599 Speaker 1: the stadium, there's going to be access so that there's 1498 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,679 Speaker 1: natural air coming in. Um. From from what I'm told, 1499 01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,240 Speaker 1: there's like glass doors that they can open up. It's 1500 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,800 Speaker 1: you know, uh, kind of like Lucas Oil Stadium that 1501 01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:48,200 Speaker 1: has the open glass end right in Minnesota does that too. 1502 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:52,759 Speaker 1: It's definitely next level, uh you know, uh type of stuff, 1503 01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:56,320 Speaker 1: but but it's gonna it's gonna have there's gonna be 1504 01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,760 Speaker 1: a walk into it, there's gonna be it's almost like 1505 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,639 Speaker 1: a patio feel and indoor outdoor type of a type 1506 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,000 Speaker 1: of a field, which is very very southern California. That's 1507 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,640 Speaker 1: that's kind of what we do out here because we 1508 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 1: have obviously the year round weather. But it's definitely going 1509 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:15,120 Speaker 1: to be unique. And I talked to the same architect 1510 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:19,040 Speaker 1: that did that's doing the Ram Stadium, did Minnesota Stadium. 1511 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:20,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys that've seen that, but 1512 01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:24,160 Speaker 1: it's spectacular. And I remember talking to their people when 1513 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,160 Speaker 1: when that stadium was open, and they're like, just wait 1514 01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,720 Speaker 1: till you see what's going to happen in Engwood. That's 1515 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,360 Speaker 1: even on a grander scale than this. So it's it's 1516 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:36,880 Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. We've never had a football stadium built 1517 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,360 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles for any professional team. I mean, the 1518 01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:43,360 Speaker 1: Coliseum was built in nineteen twenty one, long before the 1519 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,240 Speaker 1: Rams ever ever set foot in California, and there's not 1520 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:50,439 Speaker 1: been a stadium devoted to NFL football built since then. 1521 01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,560 Speaker 1: Rose Bowl was in nineteen twenty I think it was 1522 01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,400 Speaker 1: or somewhere around there. So this is pretty cool stuff 1523 01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,759 Speaker 1: for Los Angeles. It's the reason why we've had teams 1524 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:02,439 Speaker 1: leaves because we can never get stadiums done. Low and behold. 1525 01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:06,000 Speaker 1: It took Dan Crockey and his deep pocket book and 1526 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,720 Speaker 1: bank account to just say, I'm going to do it 1527 01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,240 Speaker 1: on my own. I don't need public money. I'm gonna 1528 01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:15,040 Speaker 1: build up, you know myself. I've got two hundred somewhat 1529 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,360 Speaker 1: acres to build around it. That's how I'll make you 1530 01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,920 Speaker 1: know my money. And so it's a win win for 1531 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:23,240 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Hate that they had to leave Saint Louis 1532 01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,440 Speaker 1: and likewise for San Diego and the Chargers, but unfortunately 1533 01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,400 Speaker 1: these things happen, and this is the history of professional 1534 01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,680 Speaker 1: sports teams move. I hate it for the fans, but 1535 01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:36,639 Speaker 1: for Los Angeles' point of view, it's it's a pretty 1536 01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 1: cool thing. Vincent Buns and your LA Insider for the 1537 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,680 Speaker 1: Rams and also for the LA Daily News in five 1538 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 1: seventy am, thanks for joining us. We really appreciate to 1539 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,400 Speaker 1: have a great day, all right, you guys have a 1540 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:52,400 Speaker 1: good one. I gotta say, wow, it's interesting that the 1541 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:56,840 Speaker 1: Chargers are rent free there, but outside of tickets, I 1542 01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,720 Speaker 1: really wonder how the sponsorship stuff's gonna work. I mean, 1543 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,720 Speaker 1: you know MetLife Stadium and how that works in New 1544 01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:05,720 Speaker 1: York where the everything is lit up there. So they 1545 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,840 Speaker 1: just flip it from green to blue. When it goes 1546 01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,240 Speaker 1: from Jets to Giants. This isn't a part the Giants 1547 01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,599 Speaker 1: are in half. No, it's not. And so I'm wondering, 1548 01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:16,400 Speaker 1: where is the revenue stream for the LA Chargers when 1549 01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:22,479 Speaker 1: this is Cronky's building, Cronky's complex, and all of Cronky's money. 1550 01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,360 Speaker 1: He's this is a four billion dollar project and Cronky's 1551 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,760 Speaker 1: paying for all of it. Right. Basically, what he's gonna 1552 01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:31,720 Speaker 1: do is he's gonna have a home game every week 1553 01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,400 Speaker 1: for his revenue streams outside the lines, outside the ticket revenues. 1554 01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:37,400 Speaker 1: And it really right now trick ticket revenues. And while 1555 01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,320 Speaker 1: they're substantial, no question about it, because we all know 1556 01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,960 Speaker 1: you gotta fork over some cash to get these tickets 1557 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:47,040 Speaker 1: for in every NFL city, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Green, every place. 1558 01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:52,800 Speaker 1: But in the big picture, the ticket piece of the 1559 01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:54,800 Speaker 1: pie is not as big as it once was. It 1560 01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 1: used to be that was all the revenue they had, 1561 01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:58,640 Speaker 1: and then when you get television revenue, and then you 1562 01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,479 Speaker 1: get signage and they'll still have the TV and that's great. Yeah, 1563 01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:05,960 Speaker 1: but that listen, all those corporate sponsorships and all that 1564 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,280 Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be that goes into Cronky's pocket. Am 1565 01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,720 Speaker 1: I right? That's what I'm wondering. And that's the one 1566 01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:13,439 Speaker 1: thing we didn't really get to ask Vincent because we 1567 01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:17,080 Speaker 1: ran out of time. I'm curious how that is going 1568 01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,280 Speaker 1: to be balanced. He's certainly not going to go He's 1569 01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,160 Speaker 1: certainly not going to go in the rent free okay, 1570 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,040 Speaker 1: but he's not gonna go his money somewhere, not gonna 1571 01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,479 Speaker 1: be revenue free on game home games for the Times. 1572 01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:31,160 Speaker 1: So I've got to believe that for their ten home dates, 1573 01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:35,200 Speaker 1: two preseason games, eight regular season games, that they are 1574 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,040 Speaker 1: going to be able to sell to their sponsors ad 1575 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:42,479 Speaker 1: space somewhere in that building. I mean they have to, right, 1576 01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:44,080 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what the Jets and Giants do. It 1577 01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,599 Speaker 1: would seem to make sense a different deal though, UM 1578 01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 1: and Cronky's probably getting a cut somewhere. You know, the 1579 01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:53,080 Speaker 1: Chargers are getting nothing on concessions. That's going all to 1580 01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,720 Speaker 1: the rams. Um. That's a tough road to hoe. I mean, 1581 01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,280 Speaker 1: the Spano's family really got jobbed in this whole thing 1582 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,479 Speaker 1: when you think about it. You know, Jerry Jones was 1583 01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,800 Speaker 1: kind of the ring leader that swung the balance of 1584 01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:09,120 Speaker 1: power in the ownership group over to cronky side of 1585 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,400 Speaker 1: the ledger when all this voting went down, because there 1586 01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,519 Speaker 1: was a smaller group of old time owners that kind 1587 01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,080 Speaker 1: of had the support or at least thought they did 1588 01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:23,160 Speaker 1: to keep the Chargers where they were, allow the Raiders 1589 01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,839 Speaker 1: to go to Las Vegas, and then let the Rams 1590 01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,080 Speaker 1: kind of do whatever they want in La And then 1591 01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,880 Speaker 1: it all went up and smoke in a hurry, where 1592 01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:36,040 Speaker 1: the Chargers were given two options, and obviously the more 1593 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,560 Speaker 1: preferable of the two was to be a tenant with 1594 01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:43,000 Speaker 1: the Rams on purpose because there was no solution in 1595 01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:47,160 Speaker 1: San Diego. So really, the Spanos family, they had their 1596 01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,280 Speaker 1: hands tied behind their back, and you know they had 1597 01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:54,160 Speaker 1: to acquiesce and take this deal. And you know, while 1598 01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,840 Speaker 1: they would be playing in a gleaming new stadium, I 1599 01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,400 Speaker 1: think the revenue streams, the revenue streams are far more 1600 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,679 Speaker 1: limited than they are. For say, the Jets are giants 1601 01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,439 Speaker 1: who share MetLife Stadium in New Jersey, and they go 1602 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,719 Speaker 1: right down the middle fifty fifty on ad placements because 1603 01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,519 Speaker 1: they just flipped the boards. And you know, the Giants 1604 01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,679 Speaker 1: have their sponsors, the Jets have theirs. Everything, as I said, 1605 01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,360 Speaker 1: is lit up, so you just change the light color 1606 01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,519 Speaker 1: from green to blue and up to the Giants home 1607 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:26,040 Speaker 1: game this week. Here we go. All right, plenty more 1608 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,000 Speaker 1: to talk about it. That's really interesting stuff going on 1609 01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,240 Speaker 1: out in LA. They are in an absolute wind now mode. 1610 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it's any question, no question, some of 1611 01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,120 Speaker 1: the talent they've gotten, a lot of the talent they've 1612 01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,320 Speaker 1: gotten is young enough. But there sooner or later, as 1613 01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:38,960 Speaker 1: we've all seen, they're gonna have to start paying the 1614 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,599 Speaker 1: piper and paying those guys to stay or they're gonna 1615 01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,479 Speaker 1: go away. We're gonna take a break. Our phone system 1616 01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,479 Speaker 1: having trouble with the phone system. Once again. It's me, 1617 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:49,400 Speaker 1: probably not you. One Bills Live on One Bill's Drive. 1618 01:19:49,479 --> 01:20:06,799 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. You're on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome 1619 01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,320 Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. Steve 1620 01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,280 Speaker 1: Task along with Chris Brown, we're talking on We just 1621 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,240 Speaker 1: got off the phone with Vincent Bunsen, your of the 1622 01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:17,240 Speaker 1: LA media out there covering the Rams. He's the Rams 1623 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,320 Speaker 1: insider for the LA News and some a lot of 1624 01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:23,200 Speaker 1: interesting stuff about the relationship between the Rams and the 1625 01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:24,960 Speaker 1: new tenant, the tenant that's going to go into their 1626 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,920 Speaker 1: statu in the LA Chargers. Also the roster they're building 1627 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:29,760 Speaker 1: out there this year. For the next couple of years 1628 01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,840 Speaker 1: they'll be playing in the Coliseum and the Rams will 1629 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,240 Speaker 1: and the interesting scenario that's going on out there, not 1630 01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,880 Speaker 1: only with their roster, but also with a fan relationship 1631 01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:39,320 Speaker 1: and what it's going to be like when they move 1632 01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:41,960 Speaker 1: into the new stadium. A lot of interesting stuff going 1633 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,760 Speaker 1: on around the league. And you were all over that 1634 01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,280 Speaker 1: with the time when the Chargers kind of got back 1635 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,120 Speaker 1: to painted into a corner and now they ends up 1636 01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:52,200 Speaker 1: they're paying. They're playing rent free but not and maybe 1637 01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,240 Speaker 1: revenue free. Yeah, I'm trying to I've been trying to 1638 01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,760 Speaker 1: scan here during the break to find a story that 1639 01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:02,840 Speaker 1: kind of out lines the benefits or lack thereof for 1640 01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:08,120 Speaker 1: the Rams and the Chargers. And you got some writers 1641 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,599 Speaker 1: out there in LA, like La Times writer Sam Farmer, 1642 01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,679 Speaker 1: who has covered the NFL for years. He was trying 1643 01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,320 Speaker 1: to kind of peg and he was saying each team 1644 01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,879 Speaker 1: could top three hundred and fifty million in annual revenue, 1645 01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:22,240 Speaker 1: considerably more than in either of their previous homes, according 1646 01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:26,599 Speaker 1: to an LA Times analysis and interviews with NFL team sources, 1647 01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,960 Speaker 1: academics and sports business experts. It'll be interesting to see 1648 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,639 Speaker 1: if that is actually the case for the Chargers. Yeah, 1649 01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:36,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I'm not a hard ton of 1650 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,080 Speaker 1: enough of a business background. Well, I have a hard 1651 01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:39,720 Speaker 1: time that arrangement might work. I have a hard time 1652 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,519 Speaker 1: thinking is Stan Cronki is gonna leave money on the 1653 01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,679 Speaker 1: table and just give it to the Chargers or maybe 1654 01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:46,200 Speaker 1: that was part of the deal they made. I don't know. 1655 01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,960 Speaker 1: But a lot of stuff going on. We were talking 1656 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:51,680 Speaker 1: to also, a lot of things going round around the 1657 01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:53,920 Speaker 1: National Football League. We heard you know today And if 1658 01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:55,400 Speaker 1: you want to get it on the conversation, give us 1659 01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,080 Speaker 1: a call. Eight h three oh five fifty. The phones 1660 01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:58,840 Speaker 1: are back up. We'll take a call in just a minute. 1661 01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to Jeff. But the story coming out 1662 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,120 Speaker 1: now that Jerry Rice, and we heard last week Terrell 1663 01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,000 Speaker 1: Owens ran a four four forty yard dash. Yeah, and 1664 01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,280 Speaker 1: now Jerry Rice says he could still play in the 1665 01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,080 Speaker 1: NFL at age fifty five. You can't, Jerry, right, and 1666 01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:16,599 Speaker 1: you got guys like uh like Johnny Football, Johnny Manziel, 1667 01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:20,080 Speaker 1: who's playing in Hamilton, Ontario for the Hamilton Tiger Cats. 1668 01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:22,800 Speaker 1: He's backing up Jeremiah Assoli. And you'd think a little 1669 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,879 Speaker 1: bit a guy like Manziel would have the physical ability 1670 01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,760 Speaker 1: and no question, he's got the physical ability to take 1671 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:30,800 Speaker 1: the opportunity to maybe start playing for that team. But 1672 01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:32,720 Speaker 1: then you get out there are two games into the 1673 01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:36,040 Speaker 1: Canadian football season and Jeremiah is only the guy playing 1674 01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:38,320 Speaker 1: ahead of Johnny. Manziel's throwing for over three hundred and 1675 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:42,280 Speaker 1: forty yards per game and there and he's killing it. 1676 01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,560 Speaker 1: Manzel's not getting on the field. How's he going to 1677 01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,040 Speaker 1: get back in the NFL If he can't get off 1678 01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,800 Speaker 1: the play he's gotta play. You gotta put tape out 1679 01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,200 Speaker 1: there so they can see what you're doing. And I 1680 01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,320 Speaker 1: think all we've seen to this point is a couple 1681 01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,600 Speaker 1: of those preseason games. ESPN was showing highlights of the 1682 01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,800 Speaker 1: performance by Manzel in the preseason game. And so to me, 1683 01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,960 Speaker 1: you know, you don't have any tape to go off of. 1684 01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,320 Speaker 1: Nobody knows, you know, we know the NFL is a 1685 01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:10,800 Speaker 1: what have you done for me? Lately league, if you 1686 01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:13,080 Speaker 1: haven't done anything lately, it's hard for someone to take 1687 01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:16,080 Speaker 1: a swing on you, especially with your previous background. Well, 1688 01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,600 Speaker 1: I think your track record. Maybe that's part of it. 1689 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,400 Speaker 1: If they see he's a good soldier on a team 1690 01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,040 Speaker 1: where he's just a backup, maybe think, well, and we 1691 01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:26,400 Speaker 1: know he's got the ability. And June Jones, head coach 1692 01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,559 Speaker 1: of the Hamleton tire Cats, who's his head coach right now, 1693 01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,120 Speaker 1: who's been in the NFL and cut his teeth in 1694 01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:32,680 Speaker 1: the NFL and had a lot of success in the 1695 01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:36,479 Speaker 1: NFL at different at different times, he has said, the 1696 01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:39,640 Speaker 1: guys really can he can play, and it's gonna come 1697 01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,960 Speaker 1: down to what he does off the field. Is he 1698 01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,320 Speaker 1: gonna be able to keep his nose straight which has 1699 01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,040 Speaker 1: been his problem when he was a first round pick 1700 01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:51,320 Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns and all that. So maybe if 1701 01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,120 Speaker 1: he goes down there, it plays the good soldier and 1702 01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,200 Speaker 1: even as a backup doesn't maybe a team will give 1703 01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,640 Speaker 1: him a contract and let him come back to the 1704 01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,719 Speaker 1: National Football League when he when it when that contract 1705 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,680 Speaker 1: is up, that'll be an interesting an interesting dynamic when 1706 01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:08,520 Speaker 1: it Actually I think he's got to have some sustained 1707 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:12,320 Speaker 1: success in the Canadian League, whether it happens with Hamilton 1708 01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,479 Speaker 1: or somewhere else. If he's going to play up there, 1709 01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,360 Speaker 1: I think there has to be some sustained success over 1710 01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:22,479 Speaker 1: the course of one, perhaps two seasons. I think before 1711 01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,479 Speaker 1: someone pulls the trigger, unless there's an NFL club that 1712 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,040 Speaker 1: is so desperate a quarterback that they're willing to do anything, 1713 01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,400 Speaker 1: because this guy falls under the category of anything. We're 1714 01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,320 Speaker 1: talking about that, we're talking about all the other stuff 1715 01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,879 Speaker 1: with the LA team, also talking about your favorite Buffalo 1716 01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:41,439 Speaker 1: Bill individual season performance of all time. You can tweet 1717 01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:42,920 Speaker 1: us or call us, and we're going to take a 1718 01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:47,040 Speaker 1: call from Jeff into Pew. Jeff, Welcome to One Bill's Live. 1719 01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,040 Speaker 1: What have you got? What's on your mind? Hey, guys, 1720 01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:51,840 Speaker 1: how are you doing. I didn't get a chance to 1721 01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:55,280 Speaker 1: see the show last night, But my favorite season would 1722 01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,479 Speaker 1: have been the number eight on the list, which was 1723 01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:01,240 Speaker 1: OJ in nineteen seventy five. Is that where he finished? 1724 01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure on that number eight. Yeah, yeah, 1725 01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:08,120 Speaker 1: number eight. I just thought it should have been higher. Yeah, 1726 01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,080 Speaker 1: if you do the mathdown. Even though James Sell said 1727 01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:13,040 Speaker 1: that was his best season, he had eighteen seventeen rushing 1728 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,000 Speaker 1: and but the big difference was his receiving yardage and 1729 01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,280 Speaker 1: his touchdowns. In seventy three he had just seventy yards 1730 01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:23,960 Speaker 1: receiving with no touchdowns as opposed to four twenty four 1731 01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,800 Speaker 1: or with seven touchdowns. So he did the math at 1732 01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,559 Speaker 1: about twenty two forty yards from scribbage, which was an 1733 01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,960 Speaker 1: NFL record at the time, as were his twenty three touchdowns, 1734 01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:37,479 Speaker 1: also a record at the time. And also impressively it 1735 01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,560 Speaker 1: was the fact that out of those twenty three touchdowns 1736 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:43,280 Speaker 1: he averaged twenty two yards per four, which is pretty 1737 01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,040 Speaker 1: hard to do. It wasn't melcing up. He's won two 1738 01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:46,800 Speaker 1: yards like a lot of guys get these days. So 1739 01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:49,640 Speaker 1: that would be my pick for the best season, at 1740 01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,519 Speaker 1: least higher than what it was at number eight. So 1741 01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:54,640 Speaker 1: and I went to switch one of Therman seasons too 1742 01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,599 Speaker 1: if I got a second. Also, yeah, go ahead, all right, 1743 01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm guessing ninety one was on the list some place. 1744 01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:06,160 Speaker 1: That was his league MVP season. Okay, he was identical 1745 01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,840 Speaker 1: stats in ninety two also, But the reason I thought 1746 01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,920 Speaker 1: he was better at ninety two was the Bill's offense 1747 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,000 Speaker 1: started to struggle the back half of that season. If 1748 01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,400 Speaker 1: you look at the game blogs of Kelly Read and 1749 01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,639 Speaker 1: lost and their numbers really declined, and Thurman really carried 1750 01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:23,040 Speaker 1: the team offensively through the rest of that ninety two season. 1751 01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:27,160 Speaker 1: And so therefore, I old Steve Young got the league MVC, 1752 01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,160 Speaker 1: but I thought he descerted more at ninety two than 1753 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,880 Speaker 1: he did in ninety one. One thing would read that 1754 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,840 Speaker 1: season was through six games in ninety two, he was 1755 01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,679 Speaker 1: leading the league in catches and yards, finished the season 1756 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,439 Speaker 1: out of the top ten completely. In fact, only one 1757 01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:44,000 Speaker 1: catch over twenty yards for Read the last ten games 1758 01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:46,880 Speaker 1: of the season. So I thought Thurman really carried the 1759 01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:51,840 Speaker 1: team leading into the wildcard game against Houston. So, yeah, Jeff, 1760 01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,479 Speaker 1: that that's a great calling. Two great points. I appreciate 1761 01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,080 Speaker 1: your calling. That he's right. I mean, you think about 1762 01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:02,560 Speaker 1: how important the ninety two season was and compared to 1763 01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,760 Speaker 1: the ninety one season, where you know, he had a 1764 01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,160 Speaker 1: lot of guys clicking offensively in nineteen ninety one and 1765 01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,640 Speaker 1: there was that was a hard team to stop, and 1766 01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,680 Speaker 1: then in ninety two when the team did hit a 1767 01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:15,560 Speaker 1: rough patch, he was still the guy that had to 1768 01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:17,760 Speaker 1: carry it. And you know the high the highlights of 1769 01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,479 Speaker 1: their showing on MSG right now, I mean, you go 1770 01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,240 Speaker 1: back and watch some of those guys. It was they 1771 01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:26,479 Speaker 1: had some unbelievable games, those two Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas. 1772 01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,280 Speaker 1: And to see Thurman carry that team the way he did, 1773 01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,760 Speaker 1: and he put together some games that were unbelievable. And 1774 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:35,720 Speaker 1: I think when you start talking about seasons individually, and 1775 01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,400 Speaker 1: Brownie you can chime in on this, you start to 1776 01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:41,439 Speaker 1: get to that point where how important was it at 1777 01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:44,080 Speaker 1: the time, rather than was it a chip was was 1778 01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,400 Speaker 1: it a season where there were six guys having a 1779 01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,559 Speaker 1: great year, or was it a trend in the league 1780 01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:51,040 Speaker 1: where now, all of a sudden back, four running backs 1781 01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:53,960 Speaker 1: had you know, eighteen hundred yard seasons, that kind of thing, right, 1782 01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:57,080 Speaker 1: And that's what gets lost in history, you know. And 1783 01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,840 Speaker 1: that's why that phone call was so good, because I 1784 01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,200 Speaker 1: couldn't tell you that I would have remembered that, you know, 1785 01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,760 Speaker 1: Andre's production tailed off precipitously in the second half of 1786 01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,080 Speaker 1: that season, or that you know, Jim's numbers in the 1787 01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:10,400 Speaker 1: passing game went down in the second half of ninety 1788 01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,960 Speaker 1: two and Thurman had to pick up the Slacken did, 1789 01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,720 Speaker 1: and his numbers were every bit as good as they 1790 01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,720 Speaker 1: were in the ninety one MVP season, So you know, 1791 01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,680 Speaker 1: it's it's a very good argument to have that. You know, 1792 01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,280 Speaker 1: Thurman could be on that list multiple times, not just 1793 01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:29,280 Speaker 1: OJ and OJ season in seventy five, I mean, Lou 1794 01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:31,559 Speaker 1: Saban's out the door, He's oh no, he was still 1795 01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,000 Speaker 1: the coach. Why did he throw to him more of 1796 01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:36,800 Speaker 1: that year? Then? I wonder because Saban was just dead 1797 01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:38,920 Speaker 1: set against throwing a ball to a running back. I mean, 1798 01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,360 Speaker 1: OJ barely touched it as a running back out of 1799 01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,439 Speaker 1: the backfield in seventy three. I mean, in seventy three, 1800 01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,640 Speaker 1: he had two thousand and seventy three total yards from scrimmage. 1801 01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,960 Speaker 1: It's seventy yards in the air on six catches. Yeah, 1802 01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then two years later 1803 01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:56,160 Speaker 1: in seventy five, I know, he only has twenty eight receptions, 1804 01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,040 Speaker 1: which doesn't sound like a big jump, but his yardish 1805 01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:01,040 Speaker 1: total goes up almost four hundred yards in the receiving game, 1806 01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,880 Speaker 1: which is why that proved to be, you know, his 1807 01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,639 Speaker 1: best total yards from scrimmage season. Yeah, and you think too, 1808 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:08,439 Speaker 1: and all the stuff that went on in that early 1809 01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:12,960 Speaker 1: nineties team, Kelly in nineteen ninety one, who was handing 1810 01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,160 Speaker 1: it and throwing at Thirmi. He was calling his own plays. 1811 01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,599 Speaker 1: It was a team that ran the ball fifty percent 1812 01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:20,599 Speaker 1: of the time and threw it fifty percent of the time, 1813 01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:22,439 Speaker 1: and a lot of games that they played, Now, there 1814 01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:25,040 Speaker 1: were certain exceptions in games that either got behind or 1815 01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:29,600 Speaker 1: they got way ahead. But Kelly started that season in 1816 01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,280 Speaker 1: the first four games and through for thirteen hundred and 1817 01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:35,920 Speaker 1: forty one yards and eleven touchdowns. Yeah, they were lighting 1818 01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,320 Speaker 1: it up. It was unbelievable. It's one of those things. 1819 01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:43,040 Speaker 1: I remember being inside that team thinking to myself, it 1820 01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,439 Speaker 1: wasn't that we were getting the ball, the ball was 1821 01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:49,960 Speaker 1: bouncing our way. But you really felt like every play 1822 01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:53,120 Speaker 1: had a positive result, you know. They you never had 1823 01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:54,720 Speaker 1: one of those negative plays, and if we did, it 1824 01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,240 Speaker 1: was because somebody dropped a ball or we tripped over 1825 01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:59,280 Speaker 1: our own guy or something like that. It was. It 1826 01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:01,640 Speaker 1: was a in the season where we're still I'd be 1827 01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:04,840 Speaker 1: always on the sidelines because it's never end, but you'd 1828 01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:07,720 Speaker 1: be standing there watching and think, man, they got no 1829 01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:11,000 Speaker 1: answer for us. They really have no answer because if 1830 01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:13,280 Speaker 1: they do something to Thurman, the next one they're going 1831 01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,040 Speaker 1: to throw it to Andre. It was just one thing 1832 01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:16,960 Speaker 1: after another, and then of course all those guys end 1833 01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:18,479 Speaker 1: up in the Hall of Fame. And I was thinking, 1834 01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:20,639 Speaker 1: when you were talking about it, all these guys, it's 1835 01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:24,200 Speaker 1: easy to quantify and say, hey, all these running back, quarterback, 1836 01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:27,599 Speaker 1: wide receiver, all these guys, you know O. J. Simpson, Thurman, Thomas, 1837 01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:31,720 Speaker 1: Jim Kelly, you cook over the time, Bruce Smith, is 1838 01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:37,360 Speaker 1: it number three? Yeah? Right, with nineteen sacks, ninth that guy. 1839 01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:39,800 Speaker 1: You go on and on with these. It's hard to 1840 01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:43,280 Speaker 1: do that. There's just so many fewer statistics to look 1841 01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:45,200 Speaker 1: at for a defensive play. But I think people would 1842 01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,360 Speaker 1: be surprised to know that Thurman's best total yards from 1843 01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:51,320 Speaker 1: scrimmage season was ninety two, not ninety one, not by 1844 01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,719 Speaker 1: a lot. You know, we're talking. I mean we're probably 1845 01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,479 Speaker 1: splitting hairs a little bit here, but ninety two, twenty 1846 01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,400 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirteen total yards from scrimmage ninety one, 1847 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:03,479 Speaker 1: two thirty eight. He rushed for eighty more yards in 1848 01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:07,960 Speaker 1: ninety two and had five yards fewer receiving in ninety two. 1849 01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,680 Speaker 1: The numbers are pretty comparable. That he had twelve touchdowns 1850 01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,879 Speaker 1: in both of those seasons, split between rushing and receiving, 1851 01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:17,640 Speaker 1: but more total yards actually happened in ninety two and 1852 01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:20,040 Speaker 1: that's not even on this top ten lists. That was 1853 01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:22,599 Speaker 1: a good phone calling. Yeah, it was. That was Jeff 1854 01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:24,040 Speaker 1: knew what he was talking about. You were the One 1855 01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:26,000 Speaker 1: Bills Live. We're gonna come back. We can reap take it, 1856 01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:27,840 Speaker 1: and we want to hear from you. What was your 1857 01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,760 Speaker 1: best individual season for a Bills player in history? You 1858 01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:33,280 Speaker 1: run One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo 1859 01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:51,000 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live. Steve Task 1860 01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:53,479 Speaker 1: along with Chris Brown, we've been talking about your favorite 1861 01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:58,519 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills season of all time individual season for each 1862 01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:02,160 Speaker 1: player and Thurman, Thomas, Jim Kelly, Bruce Smith, O J. Simpson, 1863 01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:03,720 Speaker 1: all these guys at the top of the list. Has 1864 01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:07,040 Speaker 1: been really interesting to hear some reminiscence and you start 1865 01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,760 Speaker 1: comparing one or the other, and there's some razor thin 1866 01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,760 Speaker 1: differences between some of the seasons for these guys on 1867 01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,240 Speaker 1: the list, right even for themselves. Yeah. I got a 1868 01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:19,639 Speaker 1: great call last segment, you know, just arguing for Thurman's 1869 01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:21,840 Speaker 1: ninety two season, which was every bit as good as 1870 01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:24,519 Speaker 1: his ninety one MVP season didn't even make the list 1871 01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:29,120 Speaker 1: and in some ways more important. Yeah, and one more 1872 01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:31,840 Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet, this guy was saying he enjoyed 1873 01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:35,160 Speaker 1: watching Antoine Winfield play cornerback for the Bills. He said, he, 1874 01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,360 Speaker 1: in my eyes, was the best tackling dB the Bills 1875 01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:39,280 Speaker 1: ever had. He could cover and he could hit. I 1876 01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,680 Speaker 1: gotta say, pound for pound, I don't know if I've 1877 01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:44,400 Speaker 1: ever seen a better hitter and knew how to play 1878 01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:48,000 Speaker 1: the leverage game than Antoine Winfield. He would punish people, 1879 01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,320 Speaker 1: punish people. And he was all of five eight, one 1880 01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:52,519 Speaker 1: hundred ninety pounds. What a great player he was. And 1881 01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:55,840 Speaker 1: he you know, he emerged after being drafted from the Bills, 1882 01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:58,120 Speaker 1: and really it's it's fun to see those guys emerge 1883 01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:00,240 Speaker 1: on a on a team that maybe not going to 1884 01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:03,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs anytime soon or at that point, and have 1885 01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:06,000 Speaker 1: the guy play as well as he did. It was 1886 01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,240 Speaker 1: fun night. And those are the kind of seasons if 1887 01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:10,120 Speaker 1: you can pick a season that you want from your 1888 01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:12,080 Speaker 1: favorite player, or maybe a season that made him your 1889 01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,519 Speaker 1: favorite player and he still is. Uh, let's hear it. 1890 01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:18,120 Speaker 1: It'd be interesting to see. We got one guy around 1891 01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:19,800 Speaker 1: the league. You know, we always always got our ear 1892 01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,400 Speaker 1: to the ground listening for interesting things around the national 1893 01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:27,160 Speaker 1: football They we heard about Lauren DuVernay Tardiff Kansas City 1894 01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:30,920 Speaker 1: Chiefs offensive line. He plays guard for the Chiefs. He 1895 01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:34,599 Speaker 1: got his medical degree from Montreal from a Montreal University 1896 01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:39,000 Speaker 1: McGill Med School. He became a medical doctor this last 1897 01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,400 Speaker 1: offseason and now put in request in for the National 1898 01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:44,960 Speaker 1: Football League to have MD put on the back of 1899 01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:50,360 Speaker 1: his jersey like like like Ray Ray McLeod the third 1900 01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:55,120 Speaker 1: duvern h hardif MD and the league, I think doctors 1901 01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,200 Speaker 1: having the license plates on their cars. You've seen that 1902 01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:00,360 Speaker 1: right right DDS And And of course the NFL being 1903 01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:02,040 Speaker 1: the no fun league, there's no way they're going to 1904 01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:04,240 Speaker 1: let him do that. Now, what do you think, what 1905 01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:07,680 Speaker 1: do you think is their main concern? Do they think 1906 01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:11,040 Speaker 1: they're opening up a can of worms here? A bad precedent? 1907 01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:14,439 Speaker 1: It's too fun? Is their main concern? So if somebody 1908 01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:17,680 Speaker 1: becomes an attorney, you know they can't put JD on. 1909 01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:21,800 Speaker 1: So you think that's where financial plan, that's where they're 1910 01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:25,080 Speaker 1: worried it could go. Yeah, I mean it's gotta be 1911 01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,519 Speaker 1: because here there's another one. Because I'll take the other 1912 01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:29,559 Speaker 1: side of it, just to play Devil's advocate a little 1913 01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:34,840 Speaker 1: bit in a league right now where there is a 1914 01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:41,080 Speaker 1: lot of backlash from people who probably have misread the 1915 01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:45,080 Speaker 1: anthem protests of the last year plus, seeing it as 1916 01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:49,760 Speaker 1: being unpatriotic rather than a social activist, a social activism. 1917 01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,799 Speaker 1: M I don't know if it would be a terrible 1918 01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:59,760 Speaker 1: thing to maybe be change the discussion or alter the 1919 01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:04,240 Speaker 1: received stereotype of the dumb jock, which I think to 1920 01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:09,920 Speaker 1: some degree even now still exists for NFL players. UM, 1921 01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:13,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if it would be that bad a 1922 01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:17,040 Speaker 1: thing to have a doctor, a known doctor playing in 1923 01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:21,040 Speaker 1: the NFL. UM listen you had and you had the 1924 01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:24,120 Speaker 1: kid from Buffalo who was the offensive lineman for the Ravens, 1925 01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:30,000 Speaker 1: John Herschel, who is now retired, but was a math. 1926 01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:33,880 Speaker 1: He was a math whiz PhD in math, and I 1927 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:39,160 Speaker 1: mean had had several mathematical papers published. And he's not 1928 01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:41,840 Speaker 1: playing anymore because he wanted to pursue that even more 1929 01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,240 Speaker 1: and gave up, you know, his NFL career about age 1930 01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:47,240 Speaker 1: twenty six or twenty seven. Um, you know, and that 1931 01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:49,519 Speaker 1: was a guy that you know was out there and 1932 01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:51,760 Speaker 1: he didn't ask to put PhD on the back of 1933 01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:55,880 Speaker 1: his jersey, but he had it. And what do you 1934 01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:57,800 Speaker 1: haven't do you have an issue with it personally and 1935 01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:00,240 Speaker 1: the books. Let's separate the league for a second, would 1936 01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:02,600 Speaker 1: be would you be opposed to it and say, come on, 1937 01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:03,840 Speaker 1: do you really need to put M D on the 1938 01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:05,599 Speaker 1: back of your jersey? Is that where you are at now? 1939 01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:09,360 Speaker 1: In fact, in the big scheme of things, who cares? Yeah, 1940 01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:11,799 Speaker 1: what he's got on the back of his jersey. Former 1941 01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:15,160 Speaker 1: Chiefs offensive lineman Willie Rolf, who's in the Hall of 1942 01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:18,360 Speaker 1: Fame as we know, actually tweeted about this when he 1943 01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:22,519 Speaker 1: saw it. He said, Lorne, He tweeted, Lorente DuVernay Tardif 1944 01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:25,080 Speaker 1: has stepped up the game of what it means to 1945 01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:27,760 Speaker 1: a be a Chiefs player because he's a former Chief 1946 01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:31,680 Speaker 1: b breakdown stereotypes of how educated NFL players actually are 1947 01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:35,360 Speaker 1: and see be a role model to aspiring young football 1948 01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:40,280 Speaker 1: players student athletes. See. I think in regards to this, 1949 01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:45,720 Speaker 1: I think it's a huge plus to have that on 1950 01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:49,559 Speaker 1: the back of his jersey. I mean, it's but having 1951 01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:51,160 Speaker 1: said that, that's all it would be. It would be 1952 01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:55,800 Speaker 1: it's a talking point for the Sunday broadcasters in the game, 1953 01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:58,840 Speaker 1: but it's also I mean, let's face it, it's nothing 1954 01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:02,519 Speaker 1: but a PR stunt either as well, there's no reason 1955 01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:04,680 Speaker 1: for that to be on there. It's other than the 1956 01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:06,559 Speaker 1: fact that Trump at the fact that the NFL has 1957 01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:10,720 Speaker 1: guys of that quality on in their league. Yeah, so 1958 01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:12,960 Speaker 1: it's it's because I think we remember what the president 1959 01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:16,559 Speaker 1: is calling NFL players not too long ago. Right, Listen, 1960 01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:18,720 Speaker 1: they're always listen. When you sign up to play, you 1961 01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:20,760 Speaker 1: get you get a lot of people cheering for you. 1962 01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,280 Speaker 1: Also get a lot of people taking shots at you. 1963 01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:27,160 Speaker 1: That's probably being a public figure. So yeah, okay, but 1964 01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:34,000 Speaker 1: I think it would almost come off as cheap, Yes, exactly. 1965 01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:38,600 Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a cheap way to its exposure. 1966 01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:40,560 Speaker 1: As as much as proud as I was to be 1967 01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:43,200 Speaker 1: an NFL player, and as interesting as it is, and 1968 01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:45,640 Speaker 1: as cool as it is, and as big an accomplishments 1969 01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:48,960 Speaker 1: it as it is, it belittles the mde profession to 1970 01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:50,720 Speaker 1: put that on the back of a game job. Okay, 1971 01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:52,880 Speaker 1: I see where you're coming from now, I mean I think, yeah, 1972 01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:55,080 Speaker 1: I wonder how I wonder how the team doctors would 1973 01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:57,880 Speaker 1: feel about that. That would be an interesting person interview. 1974 01:37:58,040 --> 01:37:59,479 Speaker 1: You may want to get our team down. Why don't 1975 01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:02,200 Speaker 1: Why don't tea doctors where they're high school jerseys in 1976 01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:05,000 Speaker 1: the operating room, you know. I mean, I mean, that's 1977 01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:07,120 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. My varsity jacket. I mean, I 1978 01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:11,479 Speaker 1: was really helpful. I'm really proud of my career. And 1979 01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:13,679 Speaker 1: it was fun and I wouldn't trade it for anything. 1980 01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:16,280 Speaker 1: It was awesome and and I and I got to 1981 01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:21,680 Speaker 1: meet a lot of superhuman beings, you know, And and 1982 01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,400 Speaker 1: it was great. Um. And it took a lot of 1983 01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:26,960 Speaker 1: effort and a lot of commitment, and it took years 1984 01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:29,400 Speaker 1: of preparation to get into the league. And this guy 1985 01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:32,160 Speaker 1: going to medical school exactly. Again, I'm being Devil's advocate, 1986 01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:37,479 Speaker 1: but I say years of schooling here, right, it's while 1987 01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,040 Speaker 1: being an NFL player for half of that. Yeah, you 1988 01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:44,800 Speaker 1: gotta think it's it's an enormous accomplishment. You really got 1989 01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:47,560 Speaker 1: to tip your hat to this guy. Yeah. Um, And 1990 01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:50,320 Speaker 1: I think and I think it in some reason cards 1991 01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:54,760 Speaker 1: it does need to be highlighted in both professions. Um, 1992 01:38:56,000 --> 01:39:00,639 Speaker 1: putting it on his jersey. You just sound very conflicted 1993 01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:03,000 Speaker 1: with it, you do. I am a little bit. I 1994 01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:06,280 Speaker 1: am a little bit not that it's it's not that 1995 01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:08,360 Speaker 1: it belt you don't think it's being done for the 1996 01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:10,400 Speaker 1: right reason. I think it's kind of I think it's 1997 01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:13,360 Speaker 1: kind of making fun of a very serious industry, not 1998 01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:15,639 Speaker 1: not the football engine. I'm talking about the medical industry. 1999 01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:17,400 Speaker 1: Do you think I don't know that real quick because 2000 01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:18,880 Speaker 1: we're running out of time. Do you think he's self 2001 01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:23,840 Speaker 1: aggrandizing with this? You know, hey, man, fine with me. 2002 01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:26,760 Speaker 1: I think nobody else has ever done it. He's one 2003 01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:28,280 Speaker 1: of a kind. I well, we can talk if you 2004 01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:30,040 Speaker 1: got an idea about that. If you have something you 2005 01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:31,479 Speaker 1: want to add to it, call us eight or three, 2006 01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:34,040 Speaker 1: five fifty, or tweet at us at one Bills Live 2007 01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:36,240 Speaker 1: and you are with One Bills Live from One Bill's 2008 01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:52,960 Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio, Hello Bills Radio Network. Sports Update, 2009 01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:56,400 Speaker 1: the NFL finalized their Top one hundred players of twenty 2010 01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:58,920 Speaker 1: and eighteen, and for the second straight year, Patriots quarterback 2011 01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:02,519 Speaker 1: Tom Brady comes in at number one. Antonio Brown, Carson Wentz, 2012 01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:05,599 Speaker 1: Julio Jones, and Levion Bell rounded out the top five. 2013 01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:08,720 Speaker 1: Speaking of Levion Bell, the Steelers running back continues to 2014 01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:11,200 Speaker 1: his hold out, but that but on the NFL Top 2015 01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:14,519 Speaker 1: one hundred reveal last night, he said he's optimistic about 2016 01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:17,200 Speaker 1: reaching an agreement on a new contract that could come 2017 01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:22,000 Speaker 1: before training camp begins next month. Recently retired official Gene 2018 01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:25,720 Speaker 1: Sterator has been officially announced by CBS as their new 2019 01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:29,880 Speaker 1: rules analyst. Sterator, who spent fifteen years officiating in the NFL, 2020 01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:35,160 Speaker 1: will provide analysis from the CBS Broadcast Center in New York. 2021 01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:39,759 Speaker 1: The Buffalo Sabers announced they've qualified six restricted free agents, 2022 01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:43,960 Speaker 1: including former first round pick Sam Reinhart. Also qualified or 2023 01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:49,080 Speaker 1: Nick Baptiste, Justin Bailey, Sean Malone, Danny O'Regan, and c J. Smith. 2024 01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,880 Speaker 1: In the NBA, last night, the Rockets James Harden was 2025 01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:56,960 Speaker 1: awarded the NBA MVP after his career season in Houston. 2026 01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:00,280 Speaker 1: Harden was the league's scoring champ, averaging over thirty points 2027 01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:03,280 Speaker 1: a game and helped the Rockets to a franchise record 2028 01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:08,000 Speaker 1: sixty five wins. FIFA World Cup action, Peru defeats Australia 2029 01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:11,519 Speaker 1: two to nothing. Denmark and France were our scoreless. Later 2030 01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:15,479 Speaker 1: this afternoon, it's Iceland and Croatia they've already started, and 2031 01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:19,479 Speaker 1: so has Nigeria and Argentina. Both those games are zero 2032 01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:22,719 Speaker 1: to zero in the early going. And finally, in baseball, 2033 01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:26,360 Speaker 1: the Bisons continue their four game homestand with the Pawtucket 2034 01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:28,720 Speaker 1: Red Sox tonight. The first pitch. It's it's seven o 2035 01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:32,679 Speaker 1: five downtown at Coca Cola Field. That is your Buffalo 2036 01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:37,000 Speaker 1: Bill's Sports Update. Welcome back to One Bill's Live Steve 2037 01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:39,839 Speaker 1: Task along with Chris Brown. We've been getting hammered today 2038 01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:42,880 Speaker 1: on Twitter because I'm back from vacation and Murph is 2039 01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:45,200 Speaker 1: on vacation and one of us has always got to 2040 01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:46,920 Speaker 1: be out of the building. We can't. It's like, you know, 2041 01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:50,679 Speaker 1: it's like the president and the Vice president can't travel 2042 01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,120 Speaker 1: on the same aircraft. We can't be on the same radio. 2043 01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:55,880 Speaker 1: It's been funny stuff. People are like, I gotta get 2044 01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:59,240 Speaker 1: Steve's gig. Yeah, you do need my gig. It's good. 2045 01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:01,160 Speaker 1: I tell people's good work if you can get it, 2046 01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:04,519 Speaker 1: and it's uh, it contained and I deserve it. I 2047 01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:06,240 Speaker 1: mean when I when I signed the deal to do 2048 01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:08,679 Speaker 1: that this show, I asked him, I say, listen, I'd 2049 01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:10,559 Speaker 1: love to do it. I know it's five days a week, 2050 01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:13,000 Speaker 1: but here's the thing. I got some stuff, you know, 2051 01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:16,400 Speaker 1: lined up on my calendar, and I've paid for some stuff. Yeah, 2052 01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:18,920 Speaker 1: so and you help me out. Can you help me out? 2053 01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:20,840 Speaker 1: And they go, okay, fine, you can have those days. Off. 2054 01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:23,080 Speaker 1: And let's face it, my my life was a holiday 2055 01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:26,840 Speaker 1: before this job, so I so I planned stuff, right, 2056 01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:28,840 Speaker 1: That's right. So, and there was a lot of it. 2057 01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:31,120 Speaker 1: So I'm still I'm still getting to the Yeah, here's 2058 01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:34,080 Speaker 1: here's the best tweet we got from It's from John 2059 01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:37,880 Speaker 1: Sengbush and he says, Hey, Chris Brown Bills, who's the 2060 01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:41,200 Speaker 1: new guy filling in for Murph parentheses vacation and Steve 2061 01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:46,599 Speaker 1: Tasker parentheses always on vacation hashtag one bills lives. They 2062 01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:48,800 Speaker 1: have a field day with it. They enjoy it, and 2063 01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:50,479 Speaker 1: I think they know that you and Murph are good 2064 01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:52,679 Speaker 1: sports about it. So I think that's oh, yeah, comfortable 2065 01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:56,360 Speaker 1: ribbing you. I have incredibly thick skin. So but that's good. 2066 01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:59,800 Speaker 1: And then here we did get a comment on the 2067 01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:05,479 Speaker 1: Sweet Cheat about the Laray Lorne DuVernay tart If request 2068 01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:07,360 Speaker 1: to the league to put MD on the back of 2069 01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:10,400 Speaker 1: his jersey after getting his medical degree from McGill University. 2070 01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:16,160 Speaker 1: Gregory Jay says, good, the league shouldn't allow MD or 2071 01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:20,320 Speaker 1: PhD after name plates the same people who put MD 2072 01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:24,040 Speaker 1: on their wedding invites when sending it back, Sorry, your 2073 01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:27,080 Speaker 1: name is only going on them. Somebody had a bitter 2074 01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:30,000 Speaker 1: experience that I guess with wedding invites. I think we 2075 01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:31,800 Speaker 1: also got it, and on both sides of it. And 2076 01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:33,679 Speaker 1: as you could tell, we had the conversation about whether 2077 01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:35,280 Speaker 1: I wanted I thought it was a good idea to 2078 01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:37,720 Speaker 1: have the MD on it, saying I'm very I'm surprisingly 2079 01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:40,800 Speaker 1: conflicted whether I think it's a good idea or bad idea. 2080 01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:44,720 Speaker 1: James Clancy tweets in who cares with all the negatives, 2081 01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:48,400 Speaker 1: with all the negative self aggrandizement in pro sports? Let 2082 01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:50,599 Speaker 1: a guy put m D on his jersey, great message 2083 01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:54,479 Speaker 1: for kids. Smarts are cool too. That's good. It's good point, 2084 01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:58,320 Speaker 1: and I kind of agree with it, and I was 2085 01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:00,519 Speaker 1: I was worried for a minute when we were having 2086 01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:02,599 Speaker 1: the conversation. Across my mind for the first minute, maybe 2087 01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:07,519 Speaker 1: it's maybe it's demeaning to the medical doctor industry to 2088 01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:09,320 Speaker 1: have their name on the back of a game jersey's 2089 01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:12,040 Speaker 1: some one of their guys is playing a sport. And 2090 01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:14,120 Speaker 1: then we were kind of making a kind of a 2091 01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:18,880 Speaker 1: dark joke. If tart if if du Verney tart Off 2092 01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:24,880 Speaker 1: twist his ankle, the hippocratic says, yeah, physician, healed myself. 2093 01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:26,840 Speaker 1: So the trenches. The training staff have to go out 2094 01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:28,519 Speaker 1: on the field after the guy when you can wave 2095 01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:30,840 Speaker 1: them off. I got this one, I got this. I'll 2096 01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:33,960 Speaker 1: take this up myself. I'm gonna be fine, or I'll 2097 01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,040 Speaker 1: call for the ambulance myself, one of the two. That's 2098 01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, how is that gonna work? That's I hadn't 2099 01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:42,360 Speaker 1: thought about that. Yeah, until I thought about it. I 2100 01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:45,000 Speaker 1: was doing a little cruising around to try to find 2101 01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:48,280 Speaker 1: more answers on how the Chargers would fare in the 2102 01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:51,519 Speaker 1: Rams stadium as free tenants in terms of rent. So 2103 01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:53,040 Speaker 1: it looks like they're going to be selling their own 2104 01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:55,600 Speaker 1: personal seat licenses for their Yeah, that makes sense, But 2105 01:44:56,200 --> 01:45:00,840 Speaker 1: they're saying to it looks like the Chargers will to 2106 01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:04,080 Speaker 1: some degree have to help pay off the cost of 2107 01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:07,479 Speaker 1: the construction of the stadium, so they're they're paying somewhere. 2108 01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:10,519 Speaker 1: But it looks like the Rams and the Chargers are 2109 01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:15,040 Speaker 1: equally keeping the same percentage of the personal seat license revenue, 2110 01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:18,439 Speaker 1: which is going to be about nineteen percent. So that 2111 01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:23,920 Speaker 1: personal seat license cost to each ticket holder eight about 2112 01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:27,280 Speaker 1: nineteen percent the Chargers and Rams keep for their own revenue. 2113 01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:30,479 Speaker 1: The rest goes to offset the costs of the stadium 2114 01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:34,280 Speaker 1: at least that was the projections as early as February. Interesting, 2115 01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:37,160 Speaker 1: and that's all courtesy of the LA Times. They also 2116 01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:41,280 Speaker 1: have to pay the transfer fee, which is exorbitari si 2117 01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:44,360 Speaker 1: million dollars. Think about that. That five six hundred million 2118 01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:47,679 Speaker 1: dollars goes right to the bottom line of all other 2119 01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:51,000 Speaker 1: thirty teams in the league. Yeah, well, actually chaired revenue. 2120 01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:56,800 Speaker 1: Actually think about it? Interesting thought, So the Rams pay 2121 01:45:56,840 --> 01:46:01,559 Speaker 1: a transfer fee? Do the Chargers it one thirty second 2122 01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:04,559 Speaker 1: of that transfer feet and the Rams get one thirty 2123 01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:06,120 Speaker 1: second of the team. I don't know if they're part 2124 01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:08,040 Speaker 1: Are they part of that pie because they're the ones 2125 01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:10,960 Speaker 1: relocating and fling two of them, but they're separate franchises. 2126 01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:13,880 Speaker 1: So if one pace five hundred million to the league, 2127 01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:20,519 Speaker 1: it gets split between thirty teams one second discount or 2128 01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:23,040 Speaker 1: one thirty first if they're not. Yeah, yeah, you know 2129 01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:25,080 Speaker 1: what I mean, Right, That's what I'm asking. Yeah, I 2130 01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:28,680 Speaker 1: wonder it's interesting, but that goes right to the bottom line. 2131 01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:31,200 Speaker 1: How about that? I got a C minus in accounting, buddy, 2132 01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:35,360 Speaker 1: so yeah that I'm not the guy to ask duverna 2133 01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:38,080 Speaker 1: tart of it. It was my lowest grade. And why 2134 01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:41,720 Speaker 1: I am I did not become a business major. That's perfect. Um. 2135 01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:43,880 Speaker 1: All right, you're on one Bills Live with Steve Tasker 2136 01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:47,719 Speaker 1: and Chris Brown. We're talking about we started the thing. Uh, Brownie, 2137 01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:49,840 Speaker 1: You've got this great article. I want to bring this up. 2138 01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:54,400 Speaker 1: You wrote an article why a Super Bowl champion always 2139 01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:57,000 Speaker 1: believed in Ray Ray McLeod Now Ray Ray McLoud the 2140 01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:59,720 Speaker 1: third is the sixth round draft pick of the Buffalo Bills. 2141 01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:03,439 Speaker 1: Why receiver this year? He has a call it not 2142 01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:06,599 Speaker 1: really a benefactor mentor, but a mentor and a guy 2143 01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:09,320 Speaker 1: who was in the league already. And Nelson Agilore the 2144 01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:12,760 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. Now Nelson Agilore was I think a third 2145 01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:17,360 Speaker 1: round draft pick of the Eagles. A usc at a 2146 01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:20,479 Speaker 1: nice college career, played a running back earlier on in 2147 01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:22,960 Speaker 1: his career, switched to wide receiver, much like Ray Ray 2148 01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:25,280 Speaker 1: McCloud did as a young football player. He was a 2149 01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:27,640 Speaker 1: running back and then switched to wide receiver. The two 2150 01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:29,799 Speaker 1: of them came out of the same Little Youth Football 2151 01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:32,840 Speaker 1: League high school region down in Florida and around Tampa Bay. 2152 01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:36,680 Speaker 1: And they and Nelson Agiloors obviously made three or four 2153 01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:40,720 Speaker 1: years older than Ray Ray. So they became friends. They 2154 01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,280 Speaker 1: kind of look out for each other, and Agalore became 2155 01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:46,080 Speaker 1: kind of his mentors. Aglare came in and really struggled 2156 01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:48,320 Speaker 1: with the Eagles early in his career. The first two 2157 01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,439 Speaker 1: years he didn't do a whole lot on the field. 2158 01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:53,320 Speaker 1: They were trying to make him their primary slot receiver 2159 01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:58,040 Speaker 1: and things just weren't coming together. Because the way this 2160 01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:01,080 Speaker 1: whole story kind of came to be, sometimes you interview 2161 01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:03,400 Speaker 1: a guy and you're talking to him about something completely different, 2162 01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:05,280 Speaker 1: and then he brings something up and you're like, ooh, 2163 01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:07,560 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Let me pursue that, and so 2164 01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:12,320 Speaker 1: the story idea you had going in completely changed his course. 2165 01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:14,000 Speaker 1: And that's what happened when I went to talk to 2166 01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,880 Speaker 1: Ray Ray, because you know, I'm asking him how many 2167 01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:19,320 Speaker 1: camps going, how's the spring practice? Is the game fast 2168 01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:21,360 Speaker 1: for you? Is it slowing down yet? Where are you? 2169 01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:24,840 Speaker 1: And he said, well, I kind of expected everything that's 2170 01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:26,840 Speaker 1: happened so far. He goes, and I've got my god 2171 01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:29,400 Speaker 1: brother Nelson at Agalor to thank for that. I was like, 2172 01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:31,200 Speaker 1: oh really, I said, are you guys blood related? He 2173 01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:34,519 Speaker 1: said no, but we might as well be. And I said, oh, okay, 2174 01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:36,240 Speaker 1: so then I started asking him, you know, what's the 2175 01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:39,400 Speaker 1: relationship there, and he said, you know, when I was 2176 01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:42,800 Speaker 1: a young guy, I was tearing up the Pop Warner leagues, 2177 01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:46,000 Speaker 1: and Nelson would come to my games. You know, he'd 2178 01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:48,560 Speaker 1: be like a fourteen year old kid. I'm ten and 2179 01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm killing it on the field, and I was just 2180 01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:53,120 Speaker 1: I was the talk of the Pop Warner League. So 2181 01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:55,360 Speaker 1: you'd come down and watch games. And so then when 2182 01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:59,479 Speaker 1: he was in when Nelson's in high school at Berkeley 2183 01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:03,000 Speaker 1: prepped there, I think it was, you know, Rayway would 2184 01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:05,000 Speaker 1: go to his games and watch him, and then he 2185 01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:07,080 Speaker 1: kind of talked to Nelson as he was going through 2186 01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:09,880 Speaker 1: the whole recruiting process when you know, big time college 2187 01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:12,960 Speaker 1: programs come recruiting him. He ends up at USC. He's 2188 01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:15,280 Speaker 1: kind of following him there, and then sure enough, Rayway 2189 01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:17,360 Speaker 1: doesn't go to the same high school. He goes to Sickles, 2190 01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:20,640 Speaker 1: and some of the same things are unfolding for him. 2191 01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:23,439 Speaker 1: He's getting the recruiting letters. Now he ends up at Clemson. 2192 01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:25,920 Speaker 1: He ends up at Clemson, but Nelson helped him through 2193 01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:29,000 Speaker 1: that whole process, and when Nelson would come home in 2194 01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:31,760 Speaker 1: the summer from college, the two would train together on 2195 01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:34,479 Speaker 1: the field, and he saw Rayway was going to probably 2196 01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:36,920 Speaker 1: be transitioned into being a wide receiver. He'd help him 2197 01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:41,479 Speaker 1: polish up his route running exactly like running back. Went 2198 01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:43,360 Speaker 1: to college as a running back. So these guys were 2199 01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:45,680 Speaker 1: never on the same Pop Warner team, didn't play at 2200 01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:47,559 Speaker 1: the same high school, weren't even in high school at 2201 01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:50,439 Speaker 1: the same time. But there was this kinship and so 2202 01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:52,599 Speaker 1: many things that they had in common that they shared 2203 01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:55,599 Speaker 1: that Nelson kind of became a you know, a mentor 2204 01:49:55,760 --> 01:50:00,040 Speaker 1: for him, almost by happenstance, by accident, just because he 2205 01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:04,439 Speaker 1: took an interest in Ray Ray. And he said, even now, 2206 01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, I talked to him too, three days a 2207 01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:08,400 Speaker 1: week on the phone. We text all the time, and 2208 01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:11,320 Speaker 1: he's always asking me how's it going. And Nelson took 2209 01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:13,719 Speaker 1: an interest in him. You know, here's a guy trying 2210 01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:15,760 Speaker 1: to start his own, get his own NFL career off 2211 01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:17,679 Speaker 1: the ground. And you know, I thought it was pretty 2212 01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:21,320 Speaker 1: noble of Aguilore to kind of take Ray Ray under 2213 01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:23,240 Speaker 1: his wing and kind of help bring him along, because 2214 01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:26,519 Speaker 1: I think he saw something in McLeod as an athlete. 2215 01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:28,599 Speaker 1: I think he always believed that he had the physical 2216 01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:31,280 Speaker 1: ability to play at this level, and I think he 2217 01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:33,080 Speaker 1: wanted to help him with all of the off the 2218 01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:35,400 Speaker 1: field things and the commitment you have to make to 2219 01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:39,040 Speaker 1: taking care of your body to help him realize that 2220 01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:42,400 Speaker 1: goal and maybe be more successful and not be a 2221 01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:44,240 Speaker 1: draft pick who washes out of the league in two 2222 01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:45,720 Speaker 1: or three years. And that's one of the things I 2223 01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:48,280 Speaker 1: think for Bill's fans looking at Ray Ray McLoud wondering 2224 01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:50,280 Speaker 1: how he's gonna do what he's going to transition. He 2225 01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:52,960 Speaker 1: has had a mentor who has gone through not just 2226 01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:56,960 Speaker 1: sort of the same thing, almost identical. They both went 2227 01:50:57,040 --> 01:50:59,479 Speaker 1: to college as a running back and both transitions of 2228 01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:04,559 Speaker 1: the wide receiver spot. And then Agalore, to his credit, struggled, 2229 01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:06,320 Speaker 1: as you said, in his first couple of years, and 2230 01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:11,240 Speaker 1: he shared that struggle with McLeod. They'd trade in the offseason, 2231 01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:14,160 Speaker 1: they'd get together and Agalore was And there were Philly 2232 01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:16,840 Speaker 1: fans who would weighed down on Nelson Agiloor. They were like, 2233 01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:19,479 Speaker 1: he's gonna be horrible, and we had actually we spoke 2234 01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:23,240 Speaker 1: about this, Murph and I did on the show a 2235 01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:25,560 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago about who is gonna be the 2236 01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:28,479 Speaker 1: next Nelson Aglore, Who's gonna break out and have this 2237 01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:32,280 Speaker 1: phenomenal emergence for their team because Aglore, after all the 2238 01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:34,559 Speaker 1: hard work and the struggle for a couple of years, 2239 01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:38,360 Speaker 1: really exploded onto the scene for the Philadelphia Eagles. Now, 2240 01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:40,400 Speaker 1: a lot of guys did when Carson Wentz got it 2241 01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:42,840 Speaker 1: together and started having an MVP season, a lot of 2242 01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:45,840 Speaker 1: guys were reaped the benefits of it. But Agilare was there, 2243 01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:49,160 Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna serve Rayray McLeod well because 2244 01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:52,360 Speaker 1: he saw a struggle a little bit, put his nose 2245 01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:54,519 Speaker 1: on the grindstone and worked through a really tough straight 2246 01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:56,479 Speaker 1: I mean, that was probably the most telling quote from 2247 01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:59,200 Speaker 1: McLeod because he said after his first two he's talking 2248 01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:01,160 Speaker 1: about Aglare when he says this, he said, after his 2249 01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:03,439 Speaker 1: first two years didn't go so well. He wasn't himself. 2250 01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:05,880 Speaker 1: He was doing his thing, but he wasn't the Nelson 2251 01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:08,599 Speaker 1: Agilore that I knew. Everybody was down on him after 2252 01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:10,240 Speaker 1: his first year. He talked to me about it all 2253 01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:12,240 Speaker 1: the time. He tell me, I'm just gonna put my 2254 01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:14,680 Speaker 1: head down and work, and that's what he did. You 2255 01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:16,800 Speaker 1: see his success. I felt like this past year he 2256 01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:19,639 Speaker 1: showed everyone what he's capable of you want to talk 2257 01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:23,000 Speaker 1: about what kind of influence that is going to have 2258 01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:25,599 Speaker 1: on Ray Ray McLeod as he goes through his rookie 2259 01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:27,800 Speaker 1: training camp this summer. I mean, when he has a 2260 01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:31,599 Speaker 1: bad day, or a bad week, or a bad preseason game, 2261 01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:35,479 Speaker 1: he's going to be able to reference Nelson Agilore's experience 2262 01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:37,600 Speaker 1: and what he did to get through it. Yeah. I 2263 01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:39,439 Speaker 1: don't want to get off topic, but we're sitting here 2264 01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:43,360 Speaker 1: in one Bill's drive and outside of these doors or 2265 01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:44,760 Speaker 1: on the other side of this wall, there's like six 2266 01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:48,280 Speaker 1: hundred kids who were playing youth football. They play flag 2267 01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:51,559 Speaker 1: football at Jim Kelly Football Camp. It's an institution here 2268 01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:54,320 Speaker 1: in western New York. I meant every kid who plays 2269 01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:57,000 Speaker 1: high school football probably wanted to or maybe did, attend 2270 01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:00,240 Speaker 1: this camp, and some all my guys did, all my 2271 01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:03,600 Speaker 1: four my sons did. They're girls that attended. There's you know, 2272 01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:06,120 Speaker 1: families come out and watch them. It's a huge family event. 2273 01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:08,280 Speaker 1: And these kids come out and compete all week they 2274 01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:11,519 Speaker 1: play flag football, and you talk about what they learn. 2275 01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:13,680 Speaker 1: And I know there's a lot of people around the 2276 01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:17,000 Speaker 1: country are way down on youth sports, or particularly youth football, 2277 01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:19,880 Speaker 1: but the simple fact of The matter is when you 2278 01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:22,280 Speaker 1: when your kid's going to play a team sport, which 2279 01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:25,439 Speaker 1: football is the quintessential team sport, you have a lot 2280 01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:29,640 Speaker 1: of kids sacrificing for the success of the group. And 2281 01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:32,439 Speaker 1: it's the biggest lesson you can learn. And for a 2282 01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:36,040 Speaker 1: guy like Ray McCleod go to a big time institution 2283 01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:39,920 Speaker 1: like Clemson, it just hearkens back to all the guys 2284 01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:43,400 Speaker 1: who I watched and worked with. You don't get to 2285 01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:48,280 Speaker 1: the level that Rayy McLeod and Nelson Aglore are at alone. 2286 01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:52,320 Speaker 1: And to have guys learn valuable lessons early on in 2287 01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:55,000 Speaker 1: their career. Who about you know, seeing a guy struggle 2288 01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:58,040 Speaker 1: at the highest level and to plow through it through 2289 01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:00,800 Speaker 1: hard work and dedication and never you know, he's not 2290 01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:04,600 Speaker 1: one of those guys that went south. Just put his 2291 01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:06,719 Speaker 1: nose down and work hard at him. Man, It's pretty 2292 01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:10,680 Speaker 1: inspiring and and I should I'd be remiss if I 2293 01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:13,680 Speaker 1: didn't think the people at Philadelphia Eagles dot com for 2294 01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:16,400 Speaker 1: helping me get a hold of Nelson Aglore and get 2295 01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:18,720 Speaker 1: some comment from him about Ray Ray. And I mean, 2296 01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:20,479 Speaker 1: you want to talk about a guy that was excited 2297 01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:23,240 Speaker 1: to talk about Ray Ray McLeod, I mean you know, 2298 01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:26,519 Speaker 1: they went up and asked him about Rayway, saying, Oh, yeah, 2299 01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:28,800 Speaker 1: my man up in Buffalo. Yeah, he's killing it up there. 2300 01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:30,960 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. So here was the quote that I 2301 01:54:31,120 --> 01:54:32,920 Speaker 1: kind of left our readers with. With the story on 2302 01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:36,080 Speaker 1: Buffalo bills dot com about Ray Ray and why Nelson 2303 01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:39,280 Speaker 1: has always believed in what Ray Rays capable of at 2304 01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:41,280 Speaker 1: the NFL level, he said, when he got drafted, I 2305 01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:44,960 Speaker 1: was so excited even at the combine watching Ray Ray 2306 01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,360 Speaker 1: when he was there. There's one thing I know about 2307 01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:50,520 Speaker 1: Ray Ray. He's a player. He's gonna find a way 2308 01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:52,880 Speaker 1: to make plays in this league. He just has to 2309 01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:55,040 Speaker 1: make sure he doesn't worry about where he was drafted, 2310 01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:58,640 Speaker 1: just has to know his worth and that somebody needs him. 2311 01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:04,360 Speaker 1: And so hopefully that that plays out for McLeod here, 2312 01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:07,200 Speaker 1: because it is a jumble at wide receiver for the 2313 01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:10,600 Speaker 1: Bills right now, after Kelvin Benjamin and after Jeremy Curley. 2314 01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:15,360 Speaker 1: It's a jumble. But nobody has proven that spells opportunity 2315 01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:17,680 Speaker 1: is Yeah, it does, especially for a rookie. Yeah. I 2316 01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:20,320 Speaker 1: mean that's a better situation for a rookie than most 2317 01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:22,120 Speaker 1: could ask for it, especially if you're a six round 2318 01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:24,400 Speaker 1: draft choice. Right, Well, you'd rather be a six round 2319 01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:27,200 Speaker 1: draft choice than a rookie free agent. And there are 2320 01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:29,120 Speaker 1: those guys out there too, But if you are a 2321 01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:31,600 Speaker 1: six round draft choice, you'd rather be in a situation 2322 01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:33,480 Speaker 1: that's a jumble, because now you've got a chance to 2323 01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:35,520 Speaker 1: move up the depth chart with you know, you put 2324 01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:37,880 Speaker 1: a good camp together. See, that's the thing. You can 2325 01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:40,680 Speaker 1: climb into that top four or five. You realize that 2326 01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:43,240 Speaker 1: there's so much a young player and a lot of 2327 01:55:43,320 --> 01:55:46,520 Speaker 1: fans don't know. And it's when you step on the 2328 01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:48,840 Speaker 1: field as an athlete, particularly in the NFL, it's your 2329 01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:50,760 Speaker 1: first time there as a pro athlete, and you're looking 2330 01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:53,760 Speaker 1: around the room and you size yourself up. What are 2331 01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:56,480 Speaker 1: my chances? What's the situation here? How many veterans do 2332 01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:59,080 Speaker 1: they have? Some of the veterans are this guy's veteran, 2333 01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:02,240 Speaker 1: but wow, wow, he's he must have been good about 2334 01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:04,480 Speaker 1: five years ago. That kind of that kind of veteran. 2335 01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:07,120 Speaker 1: Or there's a kind of veteran that Calvin Benjaman walks 2336 01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:09,920 Speaker 1: out and go, oh my gosh, that guy's an alien. 2337 01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:11,960 Speaker 1: He's so big. I mean, how do I you know, right, 2338 01:56:12,040 --> 01:56:14,680 Speaker 1: how do I compare? I'm not even the same you know, 2339 01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm not even the same planet as this guy. So 2340 01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:19,280 Speaker 1: I've got to do something different to make the team 2341 01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:21,960 Speaker 1: than this. So you size yourself up constantly, and to 2342 01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:24,360 Speaker 1: have been through it all already with somebody you know 2343 01:56:24,440 --> 01:56:27,440 Speaker 1: and trust like Nelson Aghaloor is really gonna help Ray 2344 01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:29,280 Speaker 1: Ray Mclouden. He look on the other side of the coin, 2345 01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:33,640 Speaker 1: look at Austin Prole. His dad did it. I mean, 2346 01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:35,960 Speaker 1: I talked to Austin before he left at the end 2347 01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:37,680 Speaker 1: of any camp. He said, I said, what are you 2348 01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:39,680 Speaker 1: doing during the break? He goes, I'm going back to 2349 01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:42,840 Speaker 1: dad's training facility and we're gonna work on routes for 2350 01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:44,960 Speaker 1: the next six weeks. Yeah, that's it. I mean, that's 2351 01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:47,040 Speaker 1: nice to have when your dad can listen, when your 2352 01:56:47,120 --> 01:56:49,680 Speaker 1: dad and yeah, when your dad seventeen years the Super Bowl. Yeah, 2353 01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:53,640 Speaker 1: And it's huge because so much of what gets lost 2354 01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:56,600 Speaker 1: in the transition between college and pros is all about technique. 2355 01:56:56,840 --> 01:56:59,080 Speaker 1: These guys got to learn how to run. It's it's 2356 01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:01,920 Speaker 1: a science you talk about. We were talking about you know, 2357 01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:08,440 Speaker 1: Laurent DuVernay Tardiff who just got his medical degree. These 2358 01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:10,720 Speaker 1: guys are coming out of Division one schools like USC, 2359 01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:17,640 Speaker 1: like Clemson, NC State Florida, their masters they have master's 2360 01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:20,960 Speaker 1: degree in football coming out of college, and they're going 2361 01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:24,200 Speaker 1: to step into the ring with PhDs, with Tom Brady's 2362 01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:26,680 Speaker 1: and Drew Breeses and things like that. And that's that's 2363 01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:30,640 Speaker 1: kind of the level of academia that you get. These 2364 01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:32,560 Speaker 1: guys spend more time in meeting rooms than they do 2365 01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:34,880 Speaker 1: on the practice field. Yeah, and I mean Agilare said, 2366 01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:38,040 Speaker 1: I've always stayed close with him. He's got a great family. 2367 01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:39,800 Speaker 1: His dad and mom raised him well. But to have 2368 01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:41,960 Speaker 1: another player in this league to always make sure you're 2369 01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:46,160 Speaker 1: doing things the right way is important. And Aglare really 2370 01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:48,960 Speaker 1: didn't have that. He had USC alums that he would 2371 01:57:49,040 --> 01:57:51,640 Speaker 1: lean on to a certain degree. But I don't think 2372 01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:53,920 Speaker 1: anybody showed him the ropes the way he is showing 2373 01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:57,040 Speaker 1: Ray Ray McLoud And that should benefit the Bills. Did 2374 01:57:57,080 --> 01:57:59,440 Speaker 1: you have a guy like that in the league at all? No, 2375 01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:02,360 Speaker 1: anybody you were flying, you were live without a net? 2376 01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:05,320 Speaker 1: Why I covered kicks? Man live without a net? Why 2377 01:58:05,320 --> 01:58:07,400 Speaker 1: I was covering kicks? So you gotta go ahead, you 2378 01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:10,240 Speaker 1: should go in. It's really inspiring to read Chris's article 2379 01:58:10,280 --> 01:58:12,560 Speaker 1: why a super Bowl champion, always believed in Ray Ray 2380 01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:15,760 Speaker 1: McLeod the third. It's about Nelson Agilare and his mentorship 2381 01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:18,040 Speaker 1: of Bill's sixth round draft pick Ray Ray McLoud us 2382 01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:19,880 Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills dot com. You should go check it out. 2383 01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:22,240 Speaker 1: We're talking about that and much much more. We also 2384 01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:26,000 Speaker 1: want to know from you, our listeners and viewers, what's 2385 01:58:26,040 --> 01:58:31,160 Speaker 1: your favorite individual season performance by any Bills player in history. 2386 01:58:31,200 --> 01:58:33,160 Speaker 1: If you've got one, we'd like to hear about it. 2387 01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:37,120 Speaker 1: You can call us at one eight oh three No. 2388 01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:40,600 Speaker 1: Eight three five fifty or one eight eight eight five 2389 01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:42,760 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. You can call us or tweet 2390 01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:45,040 Speaker 1: at us at one Bills Live or at Steve Tasker 2391 01:58:45,120 --> 01:58:49,040 Speaker 1: eighty nine. We're talking about this all day and we've 2392 01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:50,960 Speaker 1: we've had a lot of people call in with a 2393 01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:54,360 Speaker 1: lot of stuff about the fan and the and the 2394 01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:57,200 Speaker 1: Twitter poll, and it's been interesting to hear some people 2395 01:58:57,280 --> 01:59:00,400 Speaker 1: reminisce and you get a feeling that you can almost 2396 01:59:00,440 --> 01:59:03,120 Speaker 1: guess their age by the person they pick as their 2397 01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:06,080 Speaker 1: favorite player. You're you're gonna be under forty years old 2398 01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:11,520 Speaker 1: if it's somebody in the two thousands, I mean right, yeah, 2399 01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna be under forty years old, and 2400 01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:17,280 Speaker 1: for somebody back in the nineties and eighty, you're gonna 2401 01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:22,240 Speaker 1: be at least forty years old. Now I've got now. 2402 01:59:22,280 --> 01:59:24,360 Speaker 1: I told you I had a top three of people 2403 01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:27,320 Speaker 1: who were not on this list just and I'm not 2404 01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:30,680 Speaker 1: saying these guys belong on the list because their accomplishments 2405 01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:33,560 Speaker 1: were superior to the guys who did appear. I'm just saying, 2406 01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:37,000 Speaker 1: from a pure entertainment standpoint, seasons that I enjoyed, and 2407 01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:39,640 Speaker 1: I already mentioned Willis mcgaye, He's two thousand and four season, 2408 01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:44,120 Speaker 1: just seeing him come back from that injury and perform 2409 01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:46,200 Speaker 1: the way he did for the Bills in what proved 2410 01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:50,640 Speaker 1: to be their only winning season for from two thousand 2411 01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:57,920 Speaker 1: to two thousand what was it thirteen? I believe it 2412 01:59:58,000 --> 02:00:01,080 Speaker 1: was the nine and seventh season with Marone because they 2413 02:00:01,080 --> 02:00:04,280 Speaker 1: went nine to seven and oh four. That was an 2414 02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:07,960 Speaker 1: entertaining season. I'm going right back to two thousand, will 2415 02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:09,640 Speaker 1: go back to two thousand and four again in a bit, 2416 02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:13,760 Speaker 1: but I also want to go to two thousand eleven. 2417 02:00:14,080 --> 02:00:16,480 Speaker 1: So two thousand and ten. Stevie Johnson has his first 2418 02:00:16,600 --> 02:00:21,480 Speaker 1: career one thousand yards season. He scores ten touchdowns in 2419 02:00:21,600 --> 02:00:23,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, even though the season is a 2420 02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:25,880 Speaker 1: is a lost cause it's four and it's a four 2421 02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:27,840 Speaker 1: and twelve season. I think they started the year oh 2422 02:00:27,920 --> 02:00:30,400 Speaker 1: and eighth. That year, first year under chan Gailey, when 2423 02:00:30,440 --> 02:00:32,800 Speaker 1: they turned a lot of stuff over and really were 2424 02:00:32,840 --> 02:00:35,480 Speaker 1: short on talent, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. 2425 02:00:35,720 --> 02:00:38,400 Speaker 1: But Stevie has an eighty two catch season, goes over 2426 02:00:38,440 --> 02:00:41,200 Speaker 1: a thousand yards first time in his career, and ten touchdowns. 2427 02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:44,920 Speaker 1: As him and Fitzpatrick really start to connect. The following year, 2428 02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:49,280 Speaker 1: the t shirt thing starts going. You know, he's pulling 2429 02:00:49,320 --> 02:00:51,400 Speaker 1: the tea, he's pulling his jersey up. He's got stuff 2430 02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:55,760 Speaker 1: written on underneath. You know, the game in Cincinnati, why 2431 02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:58,720 Speaker 1: so serious? He had Happy New Year up in New 2432 02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:01,840 Speaker 1: England on a New Year his game where he scored 2433 02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:05,400 Speaker 1: a touchdown, but two and eleven starts hot there, three 2434 02:01:05,480 --> 02:01:07,320 Speaker 1: and ozh. They beat the Patriots at home on a 2435 02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:11,000 Speaker 1: last second field goal, and Stevie's still doing his thing. 2436 02:01:11,680 --> 02:01:15,400 Speaker 1: Second straight one thousand yards season, seventy six catches, one 2437 02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:19,080 Speaker 1: thousand and four yards, seven touchdowns, was a full time 2438 02:01:19,160 --> 02:01:23,000 Speaker 1: starter for the first time in his career and really 2439 02:01:23,800 --> 02:01:26,960 Speaker 1: was an entertaining player, and it was important for him 2440 02:01:27,560 --> 02:01:30,000 Speaker 1: to be entertaining for the fans. I think he was 2441 02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:32,640 Speaker 1: a guy, you know, for being a San Francisco guy. 2442 02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:35,640 Speaker 1: He was a guy that came to Buffalo and recognized 2443 02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:39,520 Speaker 1: how important Bills football was two people in Buffalo, and 2444 02:01:39,760 --> 02:01:42,680 Speaker 1: wanted to be an engaging personality for fans. He was 2445 02:01:42,760 --> 02:01:46,880 Speaker 1: one of the first real big Twitter athletes for the Bills. 2446 02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:49,720 Speaker 1: You know. He had a big presence on social media 2447 02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:54,120 Speaker 1: just when it started to explode, and he loved engaging 2448 02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:56,480 Speaker 1: with the fans. And I'm always going to have a 2449 02:01:56,560 --> 02:02:00,160 Speaker 1: soft spot for Stevie because of what he did for 2450 02:02:00,840 --> 02:02:03,200 Speaker 1: my son. My son was just becoming a Bills fan, 2451 02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:07,200 Speaker 1: just getting just growing up. Stevie was his guy. Stevie 2452 02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:10,000 Speaker 1: was his guy. So my son shows up a training 2453 02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:12,200 Speaker 1: camp one year and I've got him behind the fence there, 2454 02:02:12,280 --> 02:02:14,880 Speaker 1: you know, because I'm I'm grabbing him after practice. He's 2455 02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:18,400 Speaker 1: about seven seven years old, six seven years old, and 2456 02:02:18,880 --> 02:02:23,000 Speaker 1: under his jersey, he's got his Stevie jersey on. Under 2457 02:02:23,080 --> 02:02:25,080 Speaker 1: his jersey, he's got a note for Stevie. Stevie's coming 2458 02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:28,240 Speaker 1: off the practice field and under his jersey because Stevie 2459 02:02:28,240 --> 02:02:30,480 Speaker 1: always called himself a fly guy, be a fly guy, 2460 02:02:30,560 --> 02:02:33,560 Speaker 1: this and that. So my wife writes on my son's 2461 02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:37,000 Speaker 1: shirt under his jersey, Hey, Stevie, I'm a fly guy too. 2462 02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:41,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Stevie stops dead in his tracks, stops dead 2463 02:02:41,280 --> 02:02:45,160 Speaker 1: in his tracks, comes over, asks him his name. He's 2464 02:02:45,160 --> 02:02:47,000 Speaker 1: talking to him for like five minutes, and then he 2465 02:02:47,120 --> 02:02:49,520 Speaker 1: gets the team for the Bill's team photographer to come 2466 02:02:49,600 --> 02:02:53,640 Speaker 1: over to take pictures with him, and he's just he's 2467 02:02:53,680 --> 02:02:56,920 Speaker 1: doing the fly guy symbol and everything. I mean, that's 2468 02:02:56,960 --> 02:02:59,200 Speaker 1: what Stevie did for Bills fans, you know. And it 2469 02:02:59,360 --> 02:03:01,200 Speaker 1: wasn't just my son because it was my son. He 2470 02:03:01,320 --> 02:03:05,120 Speaker 1: saw that this kid identified with him and it was 2471 02:03:05,200 --> 02:03:07,000 Speaker 1: important for him to go over there and spend ten 2472 02:03:07,040 --> 02:03:09,600 Speaker 1: minutes with him. And we've also talked about how during 2473 02:03:09,640 --> 02:03:11,120 Speaker 1: the midst of the drought, when the team was not 2474 02:03:11,200 --> 02:03:13,840 Speaker 1: going to the playoffs, you picked your moments and moments, 2475 02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:16,480 Speaker 1: and Stevie Johnson was certainly a breath of fresh air 2476 02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:19,240 Speaker 1: in attitude and his ability. And I think one of 2477 02:03:19,280 --> 02:03:22,240 Speaker 1: the things too, is he was getting we saw like, well, 2478 02:03:22,440 --> 02:03:24,760 Speaker 1: while you were doing that on MSG, we were showing 2479 02:03:24,760 --> 02:03:26,520 Speaker 1: all of his highlights, the guy throwing in the ball 2480 02:03:26,600 --> 02:03:29,960 Speaker 1: was Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yeah, I mean, you know at the 2481 02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:33,440 Speaker 1: old Quintess and there's another guy that right, that got it. Yeah, 2482 02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:36,480 Speaker 1: and just a fun group of guys that you were 2483 02:03:36,560 --> 02:03:38,440 Speaker 1: easy to cheer for, couldn't win very many games. They 2484 02:03:38,520 --> 02:03:40,600 Speaker 1: call themselves the misfits that there is no other team. 2485 02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:44,320 Speaker 1: Fred was another example. You know, Bryan Fitzpatrick is gonna 2486 02:03:44,360 --> 02:03:47,680 Speaker 1: start four games for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yeah, he's 2487 02:03:47,720 --> 02:03:52,000 Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna play. And I'll take the Stevie story 2488 02:03:52,040 --> 02:03:55,120 Speaker 1: one step further because you know, so my my son's 2489 02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:59,560 Speaker 1: fan favorite player. You know, the his love for Stevie 2490 02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:02,080 Speaker 1: only grow from there because that just left such an 2491 02:04:02,120 --> 02:04:05,400 Speaker 1: indelible impression on him. So it's two years later and 2492 02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:08,920 Speaker 1: there's these popular necklaces at the time. They're like these 2493 02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:11,440 Speaker 1: kind of like braided things that you just kind of 2494 02:04:11,480 --> 02:04:15,240 Speaker 1: clip on and you wear as a necklace. And you know, 2495 02:04:15,360 --> 02:04:18,040 Speaker 1: my son and all his soccer buddies are wearing these things. 2496 02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:20,160 Speaker 1: And he comes up to me and he's like, Dad, 2497 02:04:20,520 --> 02:04:22,560 Speaker 1: He goes, can you give this to Stevie for me? 2498 02:04:23,120 --> 02:04:25,120 Speaker 1: He goes, I want to give him something because he's 2499 02:04:25,160 --> 02:04:27,600 Speaker 1: been so nice to meet. My son's ten years more. 2500 02:04:28,240 --> 02:04:31,240 Speaker 1: He wants to give something to him, because what do 2501 02:04:31,320 --> 02:04:33,640 Speaker 1: we see with professional athletes? It's always Hey, can I 2502 02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:35,560 Speaker 1: get your autograph? Hey can you give me your gloves? 2503 02:04:35,680 --> 02:04:38,520 Speaker 1: Hey can you give me your jersey? Like it's always take, take, take, 2504 02:04:38,960 --> 02:04:41,040 Speaker 1: And here's my son. He wants to give him. I 2505 02:04:41,120 --> 02:04:42,440 Speaker 1: was like, sure, I'll help you out. I'll give it 2506 02:04:42,480 --> 02:04:44,680 Speaker 1: to him. So I'm in the locker room one Wednesday, 2507 02:04:44,720 --> 02:04:46,800 Speaker 1: it's right before the season starts, and I was like, hey, look, 2508 02:04:46,840 --> 02:04:48,320 Speaker 1: I said, you remember my son, and you know you 2509 02:04:48,400 --> 02:04:50,520 Speaker 1: took photos with him and everything. He's a big fly guy. 2510 02:04:50,520 --> 02:04:52,320 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. He's oh, yeah, I remember, I remember, 2511 02:04:52,600 --> 02:04:54,760 Speaker 1: I remember Carter. Yeah yeah, yeah, he go I said, 2512 02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:58,120 Speaker 1: he wants he wanted me to give you this. You 2513 02:04:58,200 --> 02:05:01,680 Speaker 1: could have knocked Steve Stevie right off his locker room stool. 2514 02:05:02,520 --> 02:05:05,800 Speaker 1: He was just so amazed that a fan wanted to 2515 02:05:05,880 --> 02:05:09,200 Speaker 1: give him something instead of ask him for something. He 2516 02:05:09,480 --> 02:05:13,160 Speaker 1: wore it. He wore it in the season opener under 2517 02:05:13,240 --> 02:05:15,680 Speaker 1: his pads and scored a touchdown in the game because 2518 02:05:15,720 --> 02:05:18,160 Speaker 1: you could see it just under his pads. He wore 2519 02:05:18,200 --> 02:05:20,600 Speaker 1: it in the game. It's great because he said, tell 2520 02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:22,760 Speaker 1: tell him I'm gonna wear this in the game on Sunday, 2521 02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:24,680 Speaker 1: and and my son saw him that he was he's 2522 02:05:24,720 --> 02:05:28,520 Speaker 1: wearing it. He couldn't believe it. That's why Stevie was great. 2523 02:05:28,640 --> 02:05:30,280 Speaker 1: He was great. I mean he's great on the field. 2524 02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:33,200 Speaker 1: Only Bill to have three straight one thousand yard receiving 2525 02:05:33,240 --> 02:05:37,200 Speaker 1: sentence and probably one of the best, I mean, one 2526 02:05:37,240 --> 02:05:39,480 Speaker 1: of the fan favorites of the drought. I mean, I 2527 02:05:39,480 --> 02:05:42,880 Speaker 1: don't think he's top three. Great story. Chris Brown Steve 2528 02:05:42,920 --> 02:05:44,800 Speaker 1: Tasker on One Bills Live. We're gonna take a break. 2529 02:05:44,840 --> 02:05:47,440 Speaker 1: We'll be back. We got NFL True and False. After 2530 02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:50,000 Speaker 1: the break, we're coming back. Join us One Bills Live 2531 02:05:50,080 --> 02:06:06,400 Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back 2532 02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:08,560 Speaker 1: to One Bill's Live steep task along with Chris Brown, 2533 02:06:08,600 --> 02:06:13,560 Speaker 1: We're going to head into NFL true and false right now, Brownie, 2534 02:06:13,600 --> 02:06:15,760 Speaker 1: here's the first one. Yeah, I'm ready for two or false. 2535 02:06:15,760 --> 02:06:19,400 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is the most underappreciated quarterback in the National 2536 02:06:19,560 --> 02:06:25,760 Speaker 1: Football League. He is definitely underappreciated. Is he the most underappreciated? 2537 02:06:26,760 --> 02:06:30,120 Speaker 1: I think this is what hurts Philip Rivers. Okay, Philip 2538 02:06:30,240 --> 02:06:33,840 Speaker 1: Rivers has been an extraordinarily productive quarterback. I mean he's 2539 02:06:33,880 --> 02:06:38,160 Speaker 1: had over forty two hundred yards passing in each of 2540 02:06:38,240 --> 02:06:43,000 Speaker 1: the last five seasons, six of the last eight seasons 2541 02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:45,920 Speaker 1: or seven of the last eight seasons, excuse me. And 2542 02:06:46,240 --> 02:06:49,400 Speaker 1: he's about about a two to one little over two 2543 02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:53,720 Speaker 1: to one touchdown to interception ratio guy career passer rating 2544 02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:58,280 Speaker 1: of about ninety five. His problem is his team can't 2545 02:06:58,680 --> 02:07:02,040 Speaker 1: perennially get to the playoffs. That I think that's the 2546 02:07:02,160 --> 02:07:06,080 Speaker 1: reason he's underappreciated. So I will say true because I 2547 02:07:06,200 --> 02:07:11,080 Speaker 1: think in a better situation, he's seen as probably one 2548 02:07:11,120 --> 02:07:14,520 Speaker 1: of the one of the best quarterbacks of his era. Um. 2549 02:07:15,880 --> 02:07:19,640 Speaker 1: You know, people seem to hold Eli Manning in higher 2550 02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:22,680 Speaker 1: regard than Philip Rivers because he's won two championships. That's 2551 02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:25,240 Speaker 1: exactly I think Philip Rivers is a better quarterback than 2552 02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:29,120 Speaker 1: Eli man would Philip Rivers and Eli Manning how would 2553 02:07:29,120 --> 02:07:33,160 Speaker 1: their careers have transpired had they not been traded on draft? Yeah, 2554 02:07:34,360 --> 02:07:37,200 Speaker 1: it's hard to say, but you'd you'd say, if everything 2555 02:07:37,240 --> 02:07:40,480 Speaker 1: else was the same, striking, if everything else was the same, 2556 02:07:41,800 --> 02:07:46,080 Speaker 1: Rivers probably has at least one Super Bowl, right, I 2557 02:07:46,120 --> 02:07:48,240 Speaker 1: don't know, does he beat the does he beat the Patriots. 2558 02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:50,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta give it to Eli when when 2559 02:07:50,200 --> 02:07:52,160 Speaker 1: the game was on the line, that guy was nails. 2560 02:07:52,840 --> 02:07:55,160 Speaker 1: But man does he throw a lot of picks. So 2561 02:07:55,280 --> 02:07:59,320 Speaker 1: you're saying yeah, So you're saying Philip Rivers most underrated, appreciate, 2562 02:07:59,400 --> 02:08:02,800 Speaker 1: underappreciate a quarterback in the NFL. Yes, stay true, stay true, 2563 02:08:03,040 --> 02:08:04,600 Speaker 1: and he's been hurt by the fact that his team 2564 02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:07,040 Speaker 1: hasn't been I'll agree with you because when he started 2565 02:08:07,080 --> 02:08:09,640 Speaker 1: talking about playoff trips, I mean, Andy Dalton's got seven 2566 02:08:09,680 --> 02:08:11,480 Speaker 1: in a row, you know, I mean, good grief, and 2567 02:08:12,000 --> 02:08:17,080 Speaker 1: nobody underappreciates Andy Dalton. I mean that guy. He gets 2568 02:08:17,120 --> 02:08:19,760 Speaker 1: crushed for not having one a playoffs game. Philip Rivers 2569 02:08:19,800 --> 02:08:21,680 Speaker 1: can't get to the playoffs, and yet he's one of 2570 02:08:21,720 --> 02:08:23,600 Speaker 1: the most prolific pastors of his era. So I'll say, 2571 02:08:23,680 --> 02:08:26,840 Speaker 1: I'll say he got fifty thousand, just over fifty thousand 2572 02:08:26,920 --> 02:08:30,600 Speaker 1: career passing yards and he's played fourteen season. All right, 2573 02:08:30,600 --> 02:08:33,920 Speaker 1: So let's go again. NFL True or false Number two. 2574 02:08:34,200 --> 02:08:38,160 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is right to show off and still drive 2575 02:08:38,280 --> 02:08:42,760 Speaker 1: his dented van. Yeah, I saw this. And while I've 2576 02:08:42,800 --> 02:08:44,880 Speaker 1: got a lot of respect for a guy who can 2577 02:08:44,920 --> 02:08:47,920 Speaker 1: appreciate the value of a dollar after signing a ninety 2578 02:08:47,960 --> 02:08:54,200 Speaker 1: three million dollar contract eighty four guaranteed. Um, dude, it's 2579 02:08:54,280 --> 02:08:56,800 Speaker 1: time to swap it out. Swap it out, or at 2580 02:08:56,880 --> 02:08:59,000 Speaker 1: least get the van tricked out, you know what I mean, Like, 2581 02:08:59,560 --> 02:09:02,040 Speaker 1: give it a drop a V eight in there. You 2582 02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:06,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yet, you know, and I gotta say, 2583 02:09:06,680 --> 02:09:09,040 Speaker 1: like he is going old school here. I was talking 2584 02:09:09,160 --> 02:09:12,240 Speaker 1: yesterday to the guy that runs the Twitter page Super 2585 02:09:12,320 --> 02:09:15,320 Speaker 1: seventy Sports, who's got a lot of those. Remember those 2586 02:09:15,560 --> 02:09:18,600 Speaker 1: old Econo line vans with the airbrush paintings on the side. 2587 02:09:19,200 --> 02:09:21,800 Speaker 1: I think he's got to do a little Vikings tricked 2588 02:09:21,840 --> 02:09:25,800 Speaker 1: out deal, you know, painted purple, put the big Viking 2589 02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:30,520 Speaker 1: horn on the sign on the side. N it's that 2590 02:09:31,880 --> 02:09:34,600 Speaker 1: the skull Vikings horn. After they get a first down 2591 02:09:34,680 --> 02:09:36,960 Speaker 1: every time. Goy, that'll drive. So you're thinking it's okay. 2592 02:09:37,200 --> 02:09:38,480 Speaker 1: Here's a shot of it. We got it through our 2593 02:09:38,560 --> 02:09:43,920 Speaker 1: MSG viewers, two bigamic windows on the side. It's a 2594 02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:48,280 Speaker 1: two thousand, um Savannah I think is worth a thousand. Yeah, 2595 02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:52,080 Speaker 1: that's the year. It's a two thousand. It's all that about. 2596 02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:54,600 Speaker 1: That thing gets a mile and a half a gallon well, yeah, 2597 02:09:54,640 --> 02:09:56,560 Speaker 1: but that doesn't matter. I mean for an eighty four 2598 02:09:56,600 --> 02:09:59,880 Speaker 1: million dollar guy. But you know, trick it out or 2599 02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:03,040 Speaker 1: something matters, you know, get put purple coat of paint. 2600 02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:05,760 Speaker 1: Here's my here's my take. What's your suggestion? No problem 2601 02:10:05,800 --> 02:10:08,400 Speaker 1: with God is great? You keep it. Hey, I've got 2602 02:10:09,160 --> 02:10:11,480 Speaker 1: I got a vehicle in my life that is, you know, 2603 02:10:11,600 --> 02:10:13,560 Speaker 1: close to me. I get it. You want to save it. 2604 02:10:13,600 --> 02:10:15,680 Speaker 1: You want to because it helps me remember where you're from. 2605 02:10:15,960 --> 02:10:18,240 Speaker 1: Let me tell you this. I'll bet that guy's got 2606 02:10:18,280 --> 02:10:21,800 Speaker 1: an Audie in thee. That's not the other guy's got 2607 02:10:21,880 --> 02:10:24,720 Speaker 1: the Porsche. He's got a Porsche. He's got that that 2608 02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:27,600 Speaker 1: is not the only vehicle in his garage. I'm saying 2609 02:10:27,640 --> 02:10:31,120 Speaker 1: that right now. Okay, So to sport that down. I 2610 02:10:31,200 --> 02:10:33,200 Speaker 1: think it's a nice statement to drive that into the 2611 02:10:33,280 --> 02:10:35,960 Speaker 1: facility every day, kind of maybe take the guys out 2612 02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:37,839 Speaker 1: on a ride. Hey, we're gonna go for a few pops, 2613 02:10:38,240 --> 02:10:40,120 Speaker 1: you know here, we're gonna get a designated driver and 2614 02:10:40,160 --> 02:10:42,680 Speaker 1: we're going in my van. Oh, let's go. So but 2615 02:10:43,040 --> 02:10:45,320 Speaker 1: so is right? So is he right to show his 2616 02:10:45,440 --> 02:10:49,000 Speaker 1: dented van? I think it's true. Absolutely, I'm okay with it. 2617 02:10:49,120 --> 02:10:51,640 Speaker 1: True about it I respect a guy that still knows 2618 02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:54,800 Speaker 1: the value of a dollar degree after getting eighty four million. Man, 2619 02:10:54,880 --> 02:10:56,560 Speaker 1: you can drive what you want, you can afford it. 2620 02:10:56,600 --> 02:10:58,160 Speaker 1: If you can afford to drive what you want, you 2621 02:10:58,200 --> 02:11:01,640 Speaker 1: can also afford not to think I'd be getting the maserati. Yeah, 2622 02:11:01,720 --> 02:11:06,080 Speaker 1: me too, so NFL true or false? Number three Bucks. 2623 02:11:06,360 --> 02:11:10,840 Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers should have confidence in veteran Ryan Fitzpatrick, 2624 02:11:11,520 --> 02:11:12,960 Speaker 1: the guy that we just saw in the highlights of 2625 02:11:13,000 --> 02:11:15,800 Speaker 1: Stevie Johns. And I had this as a news item 2626 02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:18,880 Speaker 1: in the Sports Update yesterday because there are reports out 2627 02:11:18,920 --> 02:11:22,480 Speaker 1: of Tampa that their third string quarterback last year, Ryan Griffin, 2628 02:11:22,960 --> 02:11:26,800 Speaker 1: a former undrafted rookie. There's talk now that he's going 2629 02:11:26,840 --> 02:11:30,240 Speaker 1: to have an opportunity to compete with Fits to be 2630 02:11:30,360 --> 02:11:33,240 Speaker 1: the starter for those first three games during Winston's suspension. 2631 02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:38,600 Speaker 1: And there's a part of me that says, what, what, 2632 02:11:40,120 --> 02:11:42,880 Speaker 1: why are you going to do that? Like this is 2633 02:11:42,960 --> 02:11:46,120 Speaker 1: a this is a three game babysitting effort, you know, 2634 02:11:46,320 --> 02:11:50,320 Speaker 1: before Winston comes back. Do you want to deep six 2635 02:11:50,480 --> 02:11:54,040 Speaker 1: your season? You know, before it even gets off the ground. 2636 02:11:54,960 --> 02:11:58,560 Speaker 1: Maybe Ryan Griffin was making strides late last year, but 2637 02:11:58,840 --> 02:12:01,840 Speaker 1: here are the facts. The guy has never thrown a 2638 02:12:01,960 --> 02:12:06,880 Speaker 1: regular season pass in his career. You know you're hoping 2639 02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:09,920 Speaker 1: to do big things this year in Tampa. You know 2640 02:12:10,080 --> 02:12:12,360 Speaker 1: you've got guys on the offensive side of the ball 2641 02:12:12,440 --> 02:12:15,240 Speaker 1: that you've invested a lot of money in. Are you 2642 02:12:15,320 --> 02:12:17,360 Speaker 1: putting a guy that hasn't thrown a regular season pass 2643 02:12:17,440 --> 02:12:19,520 Speaker 1: on the field for those three games and convinced you're 2644 02:12:19,520 --> 02:12:23,120 Speaker 1: gonna win him while Winston's, you know, serving a suspension. 2645 02:12:24,240 --> 02:12:27,160 Speaker 1: That's a big risk, man, it is. And I'll tell 2646 02:12:27,160 --> 02:12:30,560 Speaker 1: you this. I think if you're gonna have confidence in 2647 02:12:30,680 --> 02:12:35,320 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick, it's gonna completely mirror your confidence in your roster. 2648 02:12:35,640 --> 02:12:38,640 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick with a good team is not gonna lose 2649 02:12:38,680 --> 02:12:42,000 Speaker 1: the football game. And he's got weapons. Yeah, if Mike Evans, 2650 02:12:42,120 --> 02:12:46,080 Speaker 1: DeShawn Jackson, Cameron brad and then he's still got old 2651 02:12:46,120 --> 02:12:48,480 Speaker 1: j Howard. You know you're gonna be in the right protection, 2652 02:12:48,680 --> 02:12:50,800 Speaker 1: the right play you're gonna be in. You're gonna have 2653 02:12:50,920 --> 02:12:53,280 Speaker 1: everybody lined up right, He's gonna run it and get 2654 02:12:53,320 --> 02:12:55,240 Speaker 1: If you've got a good roster that you feel good 2655 02:12:55,240 --> 02:12:58,720 Speaker 1: about Ryan Fitzpatrick, could you could go three and ozer 2656 02:12:58,840 --> 02:13:02,360 Speaker 1: in those first three games? Just if you've got that roster. 2657 02:13:02,520 --> 02:13:08,040 Speaker 1: Although I think their early season, I think their early 2658 02:13:08,080 --> 02:13:10,000 Speaker 1: season schedule is the worst in the history of the 2659 02:13:10,120 --> 02:13:13,080 Speaker 1: National Football League. I think they've got three teams that 2660 02:13:13,240 --> 02:13:15,800 Speaker 1: won double digit games and went to the playoffs last 2661 02:13:15,880 --> 02:13:17,680 Speaker 1: year in the first three weeks of the season or 2662 02:13:17,720 --> 02:13:19,800 Speaker 1: first four weeks of the season, all the more reason 2663 02:13:19,840 --> 02:13:21,800 Speaker 1: to start fits. I think so too. I think you 2664 02:13:21,960 --> 02:13:24,160 Speaker 1: go with the guy who is in the same Sweek 2665 02:13:24,280 --> 02:13:29,320 Speaker 1: one in New Orleans home against the Super Bowl champs. Yeah, 2666 02:13:29,680 --> 02:13:35,280 Speaker 1: home against Pittsburgh. Holy crap, starts look at their game 2667 02:13:35,320 --> 02:13:38,680 Speaker 1: to look at the fourth game at Chicago. Yeah, I mean, 2668 02:13:39,560 --> 02:13:42,360 Speaker 1: but here's our true false though, Steve. The Bucks should 2669 02:13:42,360 --> 02:13:45,640 Speaker 1: have confidence in veteran Ryan Fitzpatrick. I think to execute 2670 02:13:45,680 --> 02:13:49,800 Speaker 1: the offense, yeah, But to win games, I don't know. 2671 02:13:50,680 --> 02:13:52,720 Speaker 1: That's a tough So I think it's your based on 2672 02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:55,200 Speaker 1: your interpretation of the Bucks should have confidence in veteran 2673 02:13:55,320 --> 02:14:01,520 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick. Um, confidence that he can lead the team, true, 2674 02:14:01,840 --> 02:14:06,520 Speaker 1: confidence that he can win games? Probably false? So what 2675 02:14:06,960 --> 02:14:09,120 Speaker 1: how are you answering this one? Well, if that's the case, 2676 02:14:09,200 --> 02:14:12,280 Speaker 1: why don't you play the young kid because you're gonna 2677 02:14:12,320 --> 02:14:14,680 Speaker 1: lose anyway? You might, Yeah, if you don't think he 2678 02:14:14,760 --> 02:14:17,440 Speaker 1: can win. Here's the thing you're they're gonna guess. They 2679 02:14:17,440 --> 02:14:19,440 Speaker 1: don't have any choice. They have to have confidence in him. 2680 02:14:19,480 --> 02:14:21,040 Speaker 1: So I'll say true, I think that. I think it's 2681 02:14:21,040 --> 02:14:22,640 Speaker 1: true too. This is a guy that's he's in the 2682 02:14:22,720 --> 02:14:24,920 Speaker 1: league for a reason. He's played and started for a 2683 02:14:25,040 --> 02:14:27,080 Speaker 1: lot of team. He started for every team he's played for. 2684 02:14:27,720 --> 02:14:30,320 Speaker 1: At some point, the guy can't He's a backup that 2685 02:14:30,480 --> 02:14:32,760 Speaker 1: cannot have every time he shows up, pulls up in 2686 02:14:32,840 --> 02:14:35,200 Speaker 1: front of the building, he's gonna be starter at some point. 2687 02:14:35,320 --> 02:14:39,240 Speaker 1: You just know what's gonna happen. It's followed him throughout 2688 02:14:39,280 --> 02:14:41,879 Speaker 1: his career. So yeah, what is it lucky? Is that schedule? 2689 02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:44,480 Speaker 1: Thatly crap. That is the worst that I have ever seen. 2690 02:14:45,520 --> 02:14:48,440 Speaker 1: That is horrible. It is so bad at New Orleans 2691 02:14:49,000 --> 02:14:53,440 Speaker 1: lost home against Philly, Hello, home against the Steelers. Oh 2692 02:14:53,560 --> 02:14:57,640 Speaker 1: my gosh, so bad, gosh, that is the worst. I 2693 02:14:58,080 --> 02:15:01,040 Speaker 1: want to defy some NFL fan out there to find 2694 02:15:01,120 --> 02:15:03,560 Speaker 1: me a worse schedule for the first three weeks. That 2695 02:15:03,800 --> 02:15:08,480 Speaker 1: is horrific. It's so bad. Oh yeah, but I would 2696 02:15:08,520 --> 02:15:11,480 Speaker 1: say yes, if they if they're gonna have here's the 2697 02:15:11,560 --> 02:15:14,520 Speaker 1: thing you're gonna have schedule. You're gonna have confidence in 2698 02:15:14,600 --> 02:15:16,760 Speaker 1: the fact that Ryan Fitzpatrick is gonna give you a 2699 02:15:16,920 --> 02:15:19,600 Speaker 1: chance to win. You're gonna have confidence in the fact 2700 02:15:19,640 --> 02:15:21,560 Speaker 1: that your offense is gonna look like it should look. 2701 02:15:21,600 --> 02:15:23,400 Speaker 1: He's gonna throw the ball to the open guy. You're 2702 02:15:23,400 --> 02:15:26,080 Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to look have your team looked 2703 02:15:26,120 --> 02:15:27,760 Speaker 1: like a real football team. I think if you put 2704 02:15:27,800 --> 02:15:29,760 Speaker 1: anybody else in there, I don't think you can have 2705 02:15:29,960 --> 02:15:33,800 Speaker 1: that much confidence. Week four at Chicago not a cakewalk. 2706 02:15:34,520 --> 02:15:37,000 Speaker 1: Week five, by that's the best looking thing on the 2707 02:15:37,040 --> 02:15:39,480 Speaker 1: schedule the first five weeks of the season. Listening Week 2708 02:15:39,640 --> 02:15:44,200 Speaker 1: six at Atlanta, it doesn't get better until week seven, 2709 02:15:44,200 --> 02:15:47,040 Speaker 1: when they're home against the Browns. They are well. By 2710 02:15:47,080 --> 02:15:49,320 Speaker 1: that time, the Browns could be four and two, and 2711 02:15:49,680 --> 02:15:54,600 Speaker 1: by that time the Bucks could be five. We'll think 2712 02:15:54,600 --> 02:15:56,760 Speaker 1: about wow, think about it. They could be working on them. 2713 02:15:57,040 --> 02:15:59,280 Speaker 1: They could be working on the brown season of two 2714 02:15:59,320 --> 02:16:02,200 Speaker 1: thousand and six. That is a death sentence schedule seventeen. 2715 02:16:02,320 --> 02:16:06,240 Speaker 1: That is terrible. Yeah, it's bad. Woof, you're on one 2716 02:16:06,280 --> 02:16:08,920 Speaker 1: bills live Steve Tasker and Chris Brown. We're talking about 2717 02:16:09,160 --> 02:16:11,080 Speaker 1: all kinds of things. When and that was an NFL 2718 02:16:11,160 --> 02:16:12,760 Speaker 1: true and false that we just did we do. We 2719 02:16:12,880 --> 02:16:16,040 Speaker 1: both think Philip Rivers is the most underrated, underappreciated quarterback 2720 02:16:16,080 --> 02:16:17,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL, at least is in the conversation. Kirk 2721 02:16:18,040 --> 02:16:23,760 Speaker 1: Cousin has every right to drive the two thousand van 2722 02:16:24,080 --> 02:16:26,880 Speaker 1: dented van that he drives around even though he's making 2723 02:16:27,640 --> 02:16:30,520 Speaker 1: a gazillion dollars. You do you? And of course number three, 2724 02:16:30,560 --> 02:16:33,160 Speaker 1: the Bucks should have confidence in veteran Ryan Fitzpatrick. Hay, 2725 02:16:33,360 --> 02:16:35,280 Speaker 1: if there's a guy that's a backup in the NFL, 2726 02:16:35,320 --> 02:16:37,959 Speaker 1: you should have confidence in. I think it is Ryan Fitzpatrick. Now, look, 2727 02:16:38,000 --> 02:16:39,560 Speaker 1: we've got about a minute here, so I just wanted 2728 02:16:39,560 --> 02:16:40,960 Speaker 1: to squeeze this in because I told you I was 2729 02:16:40,959 --> 02:16:44,320 Speaker 1: going to give you my three favorite individual player seasons 2730 02:16:44,360 --> 02:16:47,600 Speaker 1: for the Bills that were not on the top ten list. 2731 02:16:47,760 --> 02:16:50,080 Speaker 1: So I gave you Willis mcgahey two thousand and four. 2732 02:16:50,200 --> 02:16:52,720 Speaker 1: I gave you Stevie Johnson two thousand and eleven. So 2733 02:16:52,920 --> 02:16:56,400 Speaker 1: my last one is Terence McGee two thousand and four 2734 02:16:56,520 --> 02:16:58,720 Speaker 1: season when he goes to the Pro Bowl as a 2735 02:16:58,840 --> 02:17:01,840 Speaker 1: kick returner. You want to talk about an electrifying guy. 2736 02:17:01,959 --> 02:17:04,520 Speaker 1: Bobby April had that special team's unit humming like a 2737 02:17:04,640 --> 02:17:10,880 Speaker 1: well oiled machine. They're doing pooch punts on kickoffs, getting turnovers. 2738 02:17:11,160 --> 02:17:14,160 Speaker 1: I mean, they were just dynamite. And what McGee did 2739 02:17:14,200 --> 02:17:17,120 Speaker 1: in two thousand and four was great. He had three 2740 02:17:17,240 --> 02:17:21,360 Speaker 1: kick returns for touchdowns. He became the first player in 2741 02:17:21,440 --> 02:17:25,039 Speaker 1: team history with an interception return and a kickoff return 2742 02:17:25,120 --> 02:17:27,960 Speaker 1: for a touchdown against the Bengals on Christmas Eve, and 2743 02:17:29,080 --> 02:17:31,720 Speaker 1: and you know it was it was a dynamic season 2744 02:17:32,840 --> 02:17:36,840 Speaker 1: for him. And I think the interception touchdown though, happened 2745 02:17:36,879 --> 02:17:39,000 Speaker 1: in two thousand and five, now that I think about it, Yeah, 2746 02:17:39,040 --> 02:17:40,840 Speaker 1: it did, so it wasn't in that two thousand and 2747 02:17:40,840 --> 02:17:43,199 Speaker 1: four season. But he had three kick returns for touchdowns 2748 02:17:44,240 --> 02:17:45,800 Speaker 1: in the two thousand and four season, went to the 2749 02:17:45,879 --> 02:17:50,720 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl as the AFC Returner Special Teams representative. And 2750 02:17:51,120 --> 02:17:57,560 Speaker 1: my favorite return that year was his one hundred four 2751 02:17:57,640 --> 02:18:02,320 Speaker 1: yarder against the Dolphins that our MSG viewers are watching now. Now, 2752 02:18:02,400 --> 02:18:07,080 Speaker 1: what people will not see on this highlight is how 2753 02:18:07,200 --> 02:18:10,000 Speaker 1: he looked from the Bill's sideline on this play. Because 2754 02:18:10,120 --> 02:18:12,480 Speaker 1: late in this return, right about here at the twenty 2755 02:18:12,600 --> 02:18:15,680 Speaker 1: or ten yard line, he's taken a look inside to 2756 02:18:15,720 --> 02:18:19,360 Speaker 1: see if there's anybody left pursuing him, and there's a 2757 02:18:19,520 --> 02:18:23,240 Speaker 1: great photo by one of the Bill's team photographers, Craig Melvine, 2758 02:18:23,320 --> 02:18:26,080 Speaker 1: on that return. He's at about the twenty yard line 2759 02:18:26,160 --> 02:18:29,960 Speaker 1: going in and he's looking inside and Craig shooting him 2760 02:18:30,000 --> 02:18:32,800 Speaker 1: from the Bill's sideline across the field. He's got his 2761 02:18:32,920 --> 02:18:36,360 Speaker 1: mouthpiece halfway out of his mouth and he's smiling as 2762 02:18:36,440 --> 02:18:39,360 Speaker 1: he's looking back running the last fifteen yards, like, I 2763 02:18:39,440 --> 02:18:41,080 Speaker 1: got this. It's a lot of fun. I got this. 2764 02:18:41,440 --> 02:18:43,760 Speaker 1: And here's the thing, Steve. The thing that I loved 2765 02:18:43,760 --> 02:18:49,360 Speaker 1: about McGee was his style of return was when he 2766 02:18:49,520 --> 02:18:53,400 Speaker 1: saw the hole, foot in the ground and he's gone. 2767 02:18:53,800 --> 02:18:57,320 Speaker 1: He's not a juke east west, going this way, going 2768 02:18:57,440 --> 02:19:00,080 Speaker 1: that way. Guy. He had confidence in the guys in 2769 02:19:00,120 --> 02:19:01,800 Speaker 1: front of him that they were going to give him 2770 02:19:01,800 --> 02:19:04,360 Speaker 1: a crease and as soon as he saw it foot 2771 02:19:04,400 --> 02:19:08,000 Speaker 1: in the ground, north south, gone. And that's what was 2772 02:19:08,080 --> 02:19:10,840 Speaker 1: so entertaining about him that year because I mean he 2773 02:19:10,920 --> 02:19:12,720 Speaker 1: had three only three touchdowns, but he had a lot 2774 02:19:12,760 --> 02:19:15,480 Speaker 1: of other long returns that year because, like I said, 2775 02:19:15,560 --> 02:19:18,320 Speaker 1: that unit under Bobby April, I mean they had it 2776 02:19:18,400 --> 02:19:21,120 Speaker 1: buttoned up pretty tight on kick return. It's been a 2777 02:19:21,240 --> 02:19:23,600 Speaker 1: common theme throughout the day. We've we've been talking about 2778 02:19:23,640 --> 02:19:26,920 Speaker 1: some some fun stuff. And there's a generation of Bills 2779 02:19:26,959 --> 02:19:29,040 Speaker 1: fans before this last year who grew up in the 2780 02:19:29,200 --> 02:19:31,160 Speaker 1: in the drought, who had to pick and choose their 2781 02:19:31,200 --> 02:19:36,040 Speaker 1: happy moments throughout a Bill's Bill's era, it wasn't all 2782 02:19:36,080 --> 02:19:38,640 Speaker 1: that great where the playoffs are concerning. You had one 2783 02:19:38,760 --> 02:19:40,800 Speaker 1: right there with Terrence McGee and and it's all in 2784 02:19:40,879 --> 02:19:45,720 Speaker 1: reference to the top ten Bills single season individual performances 2785 02:19:46,360 --> 02:19:48,720 Speaker 1: in history at top ten's it aired last night and 2786 02:19:49,120 --> 02:19:52,680 Speaker 1: you can probably catch it again. Number ten was Albert 2787 02:19:52,760 --> 02:19:54,960 Speaker 1: Debenion all the way back in nineteen sixty four. Then 2788 02:19:55,040 --> 02:19:57,520 Speaker 1: number nine was a Henry Jones's safety from the nineties. 2789 02:19:58,120 --> 02:20:01,000 Speaker 1: Of course, Number eight oj sim twenty two hundred and 2790 02:20:01,040 --> 02:20:03,840 Speaker 1: forty three scrimmage yards in nineteen seventy five. That was 2791 02:20:03,959 --> 02:20:07,160 Speaker 1: number eight. Number seven Cookie Gilchris, who just got put 2792 02:20:07,200 --> 02:20:10,320 Speaker 1: on the Wall of Fame last year. Number six Bryce 2793 02:20:10,400 --> 02:20:14,360 Speaker 1: pop whose defensive MVP of the league in nineteen ninety five. 2794 02:20:14,560 --> 02:20:17,240 Speaker 1: Number five was Eric Molds, who one of the great 2795 02:20:17,320 --> 02:20:19,840 Speaker 1: all time Bills receivers who really will never get the 2796 02:20:19,920 --> 02:20:22,920 Speaker 1: recognition he deserves for the kind of athlete that he was. 2797 02:20:23,440 --> 02:20:26,520 Speaker 1: Number four Jim Kelly who in one of his great 2798 02:20:26,560 --> 02:20:29,640 Speaker 1: Super Bowl run years in nineteen ninety one, thirty three 2799 02:20:29,680 --> 02:20:33,120 Speaker 1: touchdown passes. Number three of course, Bruce Smith maybe the 2800 02:20:33,200 --> 02:20:35,959 Speaker 1: greatest defensive player of his age, maybe of all time 2801 02:20:36,280 --> 02:20:38,480 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety He took it to a whole nother 2802 02:20:38,640 --> 02:20:42,040 Speaker 1: level in nineteen sacks and was all over the football field. 2803 02:20:42,160 --> 02:20:45,440 Speaker 1: Number two Thurman Thomas Hall of Fame running back nineteen 2804 02:20:45,560 --> 02:20:49,080 Speaker 1: ninety one MVP worthy super Bowl performance and also was 2805 02:20:49,200 --> 02:20:53,960 Speaker 1: an MVP League MVP that year, and also a number 2806 02:20:54,000 --> 02:20:56,120 Speaker 1: one of course O. J. Simpson rushing for over two 2807 02:20:56,200 --> 02:21:00,240 Speaker 1: thousand yards in fourteen and fourteen games. What a season 2808 02:21:00,320 --> 02:21:02,520 Speaker 1: that was. You're at One Bills Live with Chris Brown 2809 02:21:02,560 --> 02:21:04,600 Speaker 1: Steve Task. We'll be back to wrap up One Bills 2810 02:21:04,640 --> 02:21:08,040 Speaker 1: Live here today. You're listening to One Bills Live from 2811 02:21:08,040 --> 02:21:25,039 Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. What have we learned? 2812 02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:27,920 Speaker 1: Presented by Advanced Alarm providing Western New York's homes and 2813 02:21:28,040 --> 02:21:31,680 Speaker 1: businesses with the finest and security and home theater and 2814 02:21:31,840 --> 02:21:34,880 Speaker 1: the preferred alarm and home theater provider of the Buffalo Bills. 2815 02:21:34,920 --> 02:21:38,000 Speaker 1: What do we learned? We had La Beat writer Vincent 2816 02:21:38,080 --> 02:21:40,920 Speaker 1: Munt signor on with us. Today at one o'clock, he 2817 02:21:41,080 --> 02:21:43,520 Speaker 1: told us what is going to make the Ram's new 2818 02:21:43,600 --> 02:21:48,680 Speaker 1: stadium at Englewood so special? It's going to be spectacular. 2819 02:21:48,760 --> 02:21:51,280 Speaker 1: There's no question about it. This is not just a stadium. 2820 02:21:51,320 --> 02:21:55,000 Speaker 1: This is a development that's going to have you know, 2821 02:21:55,320 --> 02:21:58,320 Speaker 1: restaurants and bars and office space and all of that 2822 02:21:58,959 --> 02:22:00,879 Speaker 1: to go to go with the NFL network is going 2823 02:22:00,959 --> 02:22:04,360 Speaker 1: to be there. But the stadium itself is coming along. 2824 02:22:04,760 --> 02:22:07,920 Speaker 1: Its scheduled to open in twenty twenty, and they're on 2825 02:22:08,040 --> 02:22:10,160 Speaker 1: target for that. It looked great every time I had 2826 02:22:10,200 --> 02:22:13,000 Speaker 1: path that, whether it's from the air and looking down 2827 02:22:13,240 --> 02:22:16,720 Speaker 1: from an airplane or describing path that it just keeps 2828 02:22:16,760 --> 02:22:23,560 Speaker 1: getting bigger and better and more progress. Vincent bunsignor the 2829 02:22:23,800 --> 02:22:27,320 Speaker 1: Law Daily News Rams beat writer who on what the 2830 02:22:27,480 --> 02:22:29,720 Speaker 1: new stadium at Englewood is going to be about? That 2831 02:22:29,840 --> 02:22:32,080 Speaker 1: was brought to you. What do we learned? As brought 2832 02:22:32,120 --> 02:22:35,119 Speaker 1: to you by Advanced Alarms Now Brownie, Chris Brown, thanks 2833 02:22:35,160 --> 02:22:36,840 Speaker 1: for being on today. That was awesome to have a 2834 02:22:36,959 --> 02:22:39,320 Speaker 1: great story about your kid and Stevie Johnson. We took 2835 02:22:39,360 --> 02:22:41,280 Speaker 1: a trip down memory lane and got a lot of 2836 02:22:41,440 --> 02:22:46,400 Speaker 1: favorite single season performances that I'd forgotten about. Yeah, really fun. 2837 02:22:47,360 --> 02:22:49,680 Speaker 1: The call we got was a great call about Thurman's 2838 02:22:49,720 --> 02:22:51,880 Speaker 1: ninety two season, which was every bit as good as 2839 02:22:51,920 --> 02:22:54,000 Speaker 1: his ninety one MVP season, and he didn't get the 2840 02:22:54,120 --> 02:22:58,120 Speaker 1: MVP again that year went to Steve Young, I believe, 2841 02:22:58,160 --> 02:23:00,760 Speaker 1: if memory serves so, they won the Super Bowl that 2842 02:23:00,840 --> 02:23:04,120 Speaker 1: years well, and that certainly helps. But you know, like 2843 02:23:04,560 --> 02:23:06,920 Speaker 1: people forget during the drought, Aaron Schobel had a fourteen 2844 02:23:07,040 --> 02:23:09,800 Speaker 1: SAX season and went to the Pro Bowl. Brian Mormon 2845 02:23:09,840 --> 02:23:11,320 Speaker 1: went to a couple of Pro Bowls. I know, you know, 2846 02:23:11,400 --> 02:23:13,800 Speaker 1: people don't think too much about punters, but you know, 2847 02:23:13,879 --> 02:23:16,520 Speaker 1: and what Willis mcgahey did, What Lee Evans did, Eric 2848 02:23:16,640 --> 02:23:19,720 Speaker 1: Molds even, you know, during the drought two thousand and two, 2849 02:23:19,840 --> 02:23:22,120 Speaker 1: the season he had there, there's a lot of a 2850 02:23:22,240 --> 02:23:25,560 Speaker 1: lot of great individual seasons that were at least entertaining 2851 02:23:25,640 --> 02:23:29,680 Speaker 1: for Bills fans when the wins weren't there. Thanks for 2852 02:23:29,760 --> 02:23:32,200 Speaker 1: being with us on one Bills Live Production Assistance today. 2853 02:23:32,240 --> 02:23:36,240 Speaker 1: George Bloss, Jeff Colteneck Thomas Hollander, Kelly Rude, JJ Treto, producer, 2854 02:23:36,360 --> 02:23:39,920 Speaker 1: Jay Harris, also Kevin Krgis and James Robol. Thanks for 2855 02:23:40,040 --> 02:23:42,320 Speaker 1: joining us on one Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. 2856 02:23:42,440 --> 02:23:46,199 Speaker 1: I'm Steve Tasker. Tomorrow Joe Baskagler will be co hosting 2857 02:23:46,240 --> 02:23:49,440 Speaker 1: with me, and we're gonna have NFL former NFL Vice 2858 02:23:49,480 --> 02:23:52,280 Speaker 1: President of Officiating Dean Blandno on at two o'clock, so 2859 02:23:52,440 --> 02:23:54,440 Speaker 1: stay with us. Thanks for joining us, everybody. This has 2860 02:23:54,480 --> 02:23:57,680 Speaker 1: been One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo 2861 02:23:57,840 --> 02:24:04,000 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio is remained as