1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: look at things to Doherty and John Harris have their 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: lab coats and goggles on and the Bunsen burners burning. 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Here's Drew. 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: What's going on friends, Happy Demico Day. I'll get into 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 2: that in a second. This is Drew Doherty. But before 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: we do, please subscribe to this podcast. 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 3: Do me a favor. 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: Just hit follow if you're on an iPhone to make 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: sure that you get this on a regular basis. Okay, 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: now that that's out of the way, here's what we 12 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: got on today's show. For the first time ever, we're 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: going to Mobile for an in the Lab, or at 14 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: least the first time I can remember. So I'm gonna 15 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: go to John Harris, gonna talk with him a little 16 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: bit about Debkolle, Ryan's and a lot about what he's 17 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: seeing one two days in to Senior Bowl practices in Mobile. 18 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 2: Then we had some cutlets that I got, which are 19 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: basically like minute to three minute long interviews in the 20 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: locker room with players. We'll hear from defensive lineman Malik Collins, 21 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: who's been here since twenty twenty one, so he's seen 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: some lean times and it was really nice to see 23 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: him be a big part of the success and the 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: fun of twenty twenty three. Plus, we'll talk with case Keenum. 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: Case has some very high praise for CJ. 26 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: Stroud. 27 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: He's got high hopes for the future, and it was 28 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: really cool hearing about his twenty twenty three experience returning 29 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: to the Houston Texans. And we'll wrap things up with 30 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: a guy who is very intriguing, still tight end Teague 31 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: in Quittorriano. He missed most of the season with injury. 32 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: Second year player. He'll be going into year three with 33 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: the Texans as a tight end and he's somebody that 34 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: flashed as a rookie and showed some things. So what's 35 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 2: next for him. We'll hear in his words, what he's 36 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: got planned, what he thought of, what he saw, and. 37 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: A whole lot more. All right, But without further. 38 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: Ado, it's time to go to Mobile and talk with 39 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: our guy. 40 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: John Harris. This is the first time. 41 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: We've ever done it in the Lab, and John Harris 42 00:01:54,680 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: has been outside. John is in Mobile, Alabama. And I 43 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: was about to say at lad People's Stadium in Mobile, Alabama, 44 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: because I'm old, You're older, and all I remember is 45 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: lad People stadium, but it's not lad People's Stadium. 46 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: It looks like a nice, shiny new setup for you. 47 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: How are you, man? 48 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what people can see as I 49 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 4: kind of just roll around here, but this is Hancock 50 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: Whitney Stadium. This actually opened. I think the first year 51 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 4: that we were here was the COVID year of twenty 52 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 4: twenty one. That that was the Nico Collins year, and 53 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 4: so I was here, you know, checking prospects out because 54 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 4: it was COVID, there was hardly anybody here, so I 55 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 4: mean I was able to sit in the stands and 56 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 4: it was like fifty people you had to be, you know, 57 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 4: whole COVID testing thing and all that kind of stuff. 58 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 4: And so that was the first year here. That was 59 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, So that was Nico's year, and then 60 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 4: the next year was Jaylen Petrie. Then last year was 61 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 4: Tanked Ell and I'm sure I've missed some of those 62 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 4: are the ones that I remember off the top of 63 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 4: my head that were here. So Jim Naggie's going to 64 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 4: hell of a job with this event. It's just it's 65 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 4: been incredible. So this is Wednesday's practice. Their guys are 66 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 4: getting on the field and they're in full pads. They 67 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 4: were in shoulder pads, so they hit yesterday, but they're 68 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 4: in full paths today, which I don't know saying a 69 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 4: whole lot because you look at the wide Streavers dbs 70 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 4: on the field. Their pants are just like bicycle shorts, 71 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 4: so you know, you don't really wearing pads is a 72 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 4: little different. But it's good intensity, some good things from 73 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,839 Speaker 4: N's practice and a lot of fun. Got a chance 74 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: to see all the all the Texans luminaries from the 75 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 4: Scotty department. You saw Nick and James Lipfort and saw 76 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: James Richer and a few others. So it's good. It's 77 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 4: a good day. It's a good day. Hope for a 78 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 4: better day and day two. 79 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna get into that in a little bit. 80 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: I had to set the scene just to let people 81 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: know where you were, but I kind of bury the 82 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: lead because hey, dude, happy to Miko day. One year 83 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: ago today, the Texans hired Demiko Ryans. And this is 84 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: not an over exaggeration. The franchise was turned on its 85 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: ear in a positive way, as it seems like everything 86 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: that's happened since has happened with a midas touch in 87 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: regards to Miko Ryans and his coaching staff and the 88 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: draft picks, and Nick Cassario deserves a hell of a 89 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: lot of credit and the mcnairs deserve a hell of 90 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: a lot of credit. But everything changed, Everything was almost 91 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,559 Speaker 2: washed away positively when Demico hires. Demico Ryans was hired 92 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: one year ago today, and I knew you were there 93 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 2: when that happened. 94 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 4: I was here, Yeah, you know, it's interesting, it was. 95 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 4: It kind of that was one of the only reasons 96 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 4: why I kind of stunk, you know, the last last year, 97 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: was not being there when Demiko was in the building 98 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: and saying hey to everybody, is it's just kind of 99 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 4: stunk not being there. But I was standing like right 100 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 4: over there around the five yard line. We're watching oh 101 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 4: of d line. I had a couple of scallots walk 102 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: up from just to the teams, and you know that 103 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: I knew, like, hey man, Demico, and I was like, no, no, 104 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: it's it's not done yet, not till it's science field 105 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 4: and delivered. And literally like twenty minutes later, it was 106 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 4: like it was science sealed and delivered, and it was 107 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 4: just interesting, you know, I kind of, you know, I 108 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: equate the Senior Mold with a lot of different thing. 109 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 4: It was the first time I saw Aaron Donald up 110 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 4: close in twenty fourteen, which was real cool. Yeah, you're 111 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: with me. 112 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 3: You were like looking down at him. He's not a 113 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: tall guy. 114 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 4: He's with me. So it was pretty incredible. So, you know, 115 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 4: there are a lot of other things here quite you know, 116 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: here with the with the Senior Bowl, but that's one 117 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 4: of them. And then you know, yesterday we got the 118 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: news that that Bobby and Girod had signed extensions and 119 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 4: they were going to be here for a while so 120 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: or at least a year. So that's good. So I 121 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 4: was excited about that. But you know, I tweeted last 122 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 4: night like man, last year to meet goos signs this year, 123 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 4: you know, Bobby and and Girod signed extensions, Like man, 124 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 4: I love mobile now I love mobile for a lot 125 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 4: of reasons, a lot of reasons. But that was that 126 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 4: was a that was a really good one, to be 127 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: honest with you. Three good ones. And it's interesting, you know, 128 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 4: I tell the story. I tell the story a lot, 129 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 4: and uh what I I think it was twenty one, 130 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 4: the first year that we came in here. I was 131 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 4: walking in and somebody saw me. I've always won my 132 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 4: Texans gear, and I saw me and they said, uh Texas, 133 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 4: Like I could hear him behind me and saying some things, 134 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 4: and I was just like, man, this is ridiculous. You know, 135 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 4: they're just kind of you know, they're you know, uh 136 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 4: chiding me and just kind of behind my back. And 137 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 4: I just was like, you know, one day it's you know, 138 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,559 Speaker 4: it's going to turn back around. And it turned back around, 139 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: and hopefully it continues to turn back around. It'll be 140 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 4: fun to have this thing going in the right direction. 141 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 4: And you know this is a place right here where 142 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 4: you know, that's a beautiful day too. You're just going 143 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 4: to see a bunch of prospects that you have an opportunity, 144 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 4: and you know it's interesting. You know, as I watched 145 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 4: those guys, I'm like, okay, I can like that guy. 146 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 4: And then there's like fifty guys that end up liking 147 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 4: on both teams in total, and I'm like, man, these 148 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 4: guys could all I could all end up with us. 149 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 4: You know. Just a little while ago, a guy like 150 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: Malachi Courtly just went by me and I was like, hey, man, 151 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 4: come over here, talk to Houston people. You know, But 152 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 4: you know, because there's so many guys that get excited 153 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 4: about but you know, it's a great event, and you know, 154 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: the one year anniversary is such a cool thing. In fact, 155 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 4: right as I was doing this, Nick Cassaria just walked 156 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 4: on the other side of the phone. But yeah, he 157 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: didn't want to jump on the zoom. You know, he's 158 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 4: you know, you know how he is. I joke with 159 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 4: him because yesterday I was actually I was actually talking 160 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 4: to James put on the sideline. You're a director. I 161 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 4: don't know what his efficient title is, but he handles 162 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: kind of the college scouting and I'm talking to Lick 163 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 4: and Nick walks up. He's got a smile his face. 164 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 4: He's like, don't tell him anything meeting me, And I 165 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 4: was like, I was like, man, I knew it. I 166 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: knew I was gonna I knew I was going to 167 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 4: catch some hat for that. But you know, but it's good. 168 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 4: It's good to be you know. Let me think about 169 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: it from from next standpoint, it's the first year he's 170 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 4: been able to be here's the gym of the Texas 171 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 4: because he's had the three of coaching searches in his 172 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 4: first three years. So he was able to be here, 173 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 4: and I know that tugs of his heartstrings, you know, 174 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 4: being the you know, the scout and the personnel guys 175 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 4: that he is. So so I know it's probably excited 176 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 4: for him to be here. And so these guys are 177 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 4: close as as I've been able to and uh, and 178 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 4: that's been that's been really really cool. 179 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny you bring that up. So I want 180 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: to get into that Nick Cassario scout part and just sect. 181 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: But I was I'm shooting this on a zoom with 182 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: you on a zoom, and I'm about ten feet from 183 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: my desk in the offices, and I was at my 184 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: desk that day a year ago, and I did not 185 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,559 Speaker 2: believe any of this Tamiko Ryan's stuff. 186 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: I was like, chance, I'm really, I'm not joking. I 187 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: was like, there's no chance he's coming here. 188 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: He's he's he's not gonna because of everything that had 189 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: gone on around here, No freaking way. And I kind 190 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: of was like dug in. I had my arms crossed, 191 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 2: like an old man who was like Nick, not him. 192 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: And on the other side of the building, we heard 193 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: a roar from our friends in like corporate development and 194 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: marketing and operations and everything and it was at that 195 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: moment that I saw a tweet from somebody, you know, 196 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: some national writers saying Demiko Ryans has signed his deal 197 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: to be the new Texans head coach. 198 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: And it was it was amazing. 199 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: And then about five minutes later, I hear the glass 200 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: door open and there's a pillar that blocks the sight 201 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: of that. 202 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: I can't see it behind me. 203 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I could hear him and he walks even 204 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: with the desk and he's like Drew and uh, you know, 205 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: he says hey to me and Vander Mary were all excited, 206 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: and you know, Mike, our guy, Zach Tarrant got a 207 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: nice photo of shaking hands with Demiko and it was 208 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: such a wonderful moment and everything since then, everything has 209 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 2: been awesome. Now, he didn't win in Baltimore, he had 210 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: some losses, but everything was just tremendous and thank. 211 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 3: Goodness that it happened. 212 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 2: Okay, talking about Nick Casserio, Dimiko doesn't get hired if 213 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: it doesn't happen with it. It doesn't happen without Nick Assio's 214 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: involvement there. But the first time I became aware of 215 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: Nick Casserio, I think you were what you had to 216 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: have been with me. But it was twenty fourteen. It 217 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: was at the first of two Texas A and M 218 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: pro days. This was like the B Squad prode. It 219 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: was not the Johnny Manzell Mike Evans pro Day. There 220 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: was one before that for a lot of other prospects 221 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: that were trying to make it, and uh, Nick Casserio 222 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: was throwing past to the receivers. Travis Lablar was one 223 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 2: of those receivers. I was catching them. But Cassio, a 224 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: college quarterback at John Carroll, a very good college quarterback. 225 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: Mind you, was throwing passes. And I remember your pal 226 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: Lancer Line, our friend Lancer Line, saying, hey, keep your 227 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: eye on him. He's going to be a GM someday. 228 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: That's Nick Cassario with the Patriots. And so it's funny 229 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: how life works. You know, that was ten years ago. 230 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: If you can believe that, John, it's twenty twenty four. 231 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: That was in twenty fourteen, in the run up to 232 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: the draft. 233 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 4: You know, it's funny. I bought that up with him 234 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 4: and he kind of sluffs it off. But one of 235 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 4: the things about that day, I remember the Patriots ended 236 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 4: up signing somebody that day, and I remember him throwing passes, 237 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 4: and after he was done throwing passes, he ended up 238 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 4: stepping over the side to phone call. So he's moving 239 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 4: bags and he's moving, you know, like the bags and 240 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 4: players go over. I don't know if you can see 241 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 4: you back behind me, like these bags back over here, 242 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 4: the defensive lineman of my shoulder. 243 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 3: Like the blocking dummies and taching them. 244 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 4: He was blocking them. So he's moving those to put 245 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: them in position for or some of their drilling. He's 246 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 4: got his phone up to his ear. And I remember 247 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:09,359 Speaker 4: driving home, which was about an hour hour later, and 248 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: and I see the Patriots to sign a particular player. 249 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 4: I can't remember who it was. I was like, he sorry, 250 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 4: that's sort of the gun was doing this, you know, 251 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 4: doing these drills at the same time that he's signing. 252 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 4: It's like, that's that's nuts. And lo and behold he 253 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 4: ends up becoming our general manager. You know. I just 254 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 4: I've said this, you know a few times now, Drew. 255 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 4: I think we've got you know, and I might be 256 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: I might be low on this. I'm trying not to be, 257 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 4: you know, so over the top homers, but I feel 258 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 4: like we've got a top five GM head coaching quarterback 259 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 4: and I think that's where you've got to start. And 260 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 4: I think we've got a top five in the league 261 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 4: at those three spots. 262 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: You might be you might be concerned. 263 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 4: I know, I feel like I am conservative with that. 264 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 4: It's just interesting as I've kind of walked around and 265 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: I've seen people that I've that you know that I know, 266 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 4: and you know, I've known Ballad for a long time. 267 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 4: So I ran in a Ballad yesterday and as soon 268 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 4: as I walked up, he's like, God, dang it, man, 269 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 4: we go seventy five yards like is that you know? 270 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 4: So it's just it's just interesting that now there's you 271 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 4: know that you know we're coming in with a hammer. 272 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 4: Now you know, we're not walking in with a you know, uh, 273 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 4: you know, a small weapon. We're walking in with the 274 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 4: big old hammer and axe, and and you know, keeping 275 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 4: Bobby and Drodd in the fold was great, and hopefully 276 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 4: they'll continue to be in the Fold for as long 277 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 4: as they possibly can before they end up getting a 278 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 4: head perfume jobs off its coordinator jobs, whatever it's going 279 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 4: to be. But to keep that that I have written together, 280 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 4: I think it's going to be great for this team. 281 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 4: And you know, look now the schedule is gonna get 282 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 4: a change, it's gonna get an offer. But you can 283 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 4: also add, you know, players, especially players that would be 284 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 4: hid me. I don't know. If you guys saw a 285 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 4: lot of Michael PENNOCKX quarterback in Washington, buy me, go Nicks, 286 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 4: buy me a little while ago. As this guy's been 287 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 4: ready for practice, so you can see, Oh, this is 288 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 4: one of my favorite Right here in the end zone, 289 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 4: I'm gona I'm gonna see if I don't know, I 290 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: can't sue the end I don't know how to do that. 291 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 4: But in the end zone, you've seem right there, I 292 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: don't know, right by the goal post, some guys in 293 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: front of number fifteen. That's why I got to a 294 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 4: lot to. 295 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 3: From yourself from UCLA. 296 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, the pass rusher, Yeah, it was a freak zoid. 297 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 4: I'm telling you. If you put him on the field 298 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 4: or Anderson, it would be old. Oh this guy is fun, 299 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 4: fun to watch. I just didn't he's not gonna get 300 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 4: us at twenty three, not after what I saw yesterday. 301 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 4: It's good to see a guy like him here. There's 302 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 4: a top ten pick worst he's definitely gonna be there. 303 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: So there are a lot of other guys that are fun. 304 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 4: So Malach go by a lot of guys. I really 305 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 4: liked the Western will talking wide receiver and just all 306 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 4: kinds of guys. You know, here's a former teammates and they're. 307 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 5: Out coming here. 308 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 4: Michael Hall, it was gonna be walking by me. Was 309 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 4: work there, big old dude. See a lot of twitch. 310 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 4: So just a fun day to kind of to see 311 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 4: these guys, as you know, get after a little bit 312 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 4: and do their thing. 313 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: All right, let's wrap it up. Twitter Question of the day. 314 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: The guy who has impressed me the most at the 315 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: Senior Bowl just through one day of practice as a 316 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: pass catcher is who was a pass catcher? 317 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 4: I think I think the most impressive player overall yesterday 318 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 4: was Quinnon Mitchell from Toledo to the cornerback. He's tremendous, tremendous. 319 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: So you're saying he was catching interceptions, wasn't. 320 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 4: Really catching interceptions. They just couldn't complete the passes on him. 321 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 4: I mean at all. I mean he put deeper players 322 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 4: on lockdown. I mean he was he was incredibly yesterday. 323 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 4: The pass catcher, well, there were a couple of them. 324 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 4: I mentioned Malachi Corley, but to me, I think the 325 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 4: most impressive one was Will Fuller Junior. That being Roman 326 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 4: Wilson brought a Michigan. He smoked everybody. I mean, just 327 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 4: an easy acceleration, you know how will you should just 328 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 4: accelerate away from a deer? Yes, Ryan, that's kind of 329 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 4: the way. Roman Wilson is is Hawaiian who ended up 330 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 4: in Michigan. Had a really good twenty twenty three deep ball, 331 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 4: tough guy made a number of catches yesterday. In fact, 332 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: quarterbacks are really looking him up. Michael Panicks looked him 333 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 4: up on a deep over oute post route. Sam Hartman 334 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 4: found him. To me, I think Roman Wilson was probably 335 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 4: the most impressive amount of Michigan. But there there are 336 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 4: some impressive pass catchers here for sure. I thought Theo 337 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 4: Johnson has a tight end. It was really really good 338 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 4: out of Penn State. Thought he had a good day 339 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 4: Jared Wiley for my DCU. But as far as past 340 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 4: catchers go, I would probably say Roman Wilson from Michigan's 341 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: pretty out good. 342 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: Awesome John. I know you're in your element. I wish 343 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: I was there with you some what's that what's. 344 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 4: That seafood place that they oh winchells. 345 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, get some wins with you sometime soon. Yeah too, 346 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: can't wait to crack it up with you next week 347 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: when you're back in the building, back in town. But 348 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: have good have good time, get some more info. 349 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 3: I know you will. 350 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: And happy to meet goday, my dear friend, Hope's one 351 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: for you. 352 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 4: Happy to meet Godate to you as well through and 353 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 4: for my observations. Make sure checking out the website. It's 354 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 4: supposed to be post today Houston Texas dot com, so 355 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 4: they shouldn't get there. So hopefully I sent him in Lakes. 356 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: It takes me a long time to do him after practices, 357 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 4: but got some good stuff there to make sure to 358 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 4: check it out. 359 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: You sent him in late because you're very thorough and 360 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: you didn't want to leave anything out. So that's why John, 361 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: take care of my friend. Good stuff there from John. 362 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: We'll be back again next week to talk a little 363 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: bit more and hear his thoughts completely on the Senior 364 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: Bowl prospects that might have a nice shot at becoming 365 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: Texans moving ahead. Defensive lineman Malik Collins fitting very nicely 366 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: into this Dimico Ryan's defense. He's played in a lot 367 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: of different spots. Think about it. He's been in Dallas, 368 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: he's been with the Raiders. Now he's in Houston, Texan, 369 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: and he's just played for his third different coach after 370 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: spending the first two years under defensive coordinator to Lovey Smith, 371 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: then head coach Lovey Smith. Now he's with Demiko Ryans 372 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: and like the switch and really is excited about the future. 373 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: So here is a quick one on one I had 374 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 2: with Malik Collins the day after the season ended in Baltimore. Malik, 375 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: when you look back on the season, what's one of 376 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: the first things that's gonna stand out to you? 377 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 5: Uh, we exceeded most people's expectations. Obviously not where we 378 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 5: wanted to be at, but I mean a lot of 379 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 5: people were shocked about our success this year. I think 380 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 5: it was the hell of a year. Definitely a building block, 381 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 5: a stepping stone in the right direction. 382 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: See the most people's expectations. 383 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: What were your expectations, say, mid July before you start 384 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: training camp. 385 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 5: Well, that's always the expectations. Why not shock the world? 386 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 5: I mean, it's the same thing every year. Why not us? 387 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 5: You see how the Troit turned every thing around? You 388 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 5: see it happen all the time, And I feel like 389 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 5: this year was a stepping stone in the right direction, 390 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 5: and we're gonna continue to strive for that. 391 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, stepping stone to what possibly? What does the next 392 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 3: year hold? 393 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: Obviously gonna be a lot of different faces both sides 394 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 2: of the ball. 395 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 3: But what's possible. 396 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 5: Everything is possible, everything's out there. Russell Westbrook said, why 397 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 5: not us? 398 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 4: Why not? 399 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 5: As that's what we're striving to do. 400 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: On a personal level, what was it like for you? 401 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: How much did you enjoy playing in this defense? 402 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 5: I loved it. Like I said a while back, it 403 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 5: was a definitely adjustment, adjusting the plan two techniques, something 404 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 5: I've never did before. But I think it was beneficial 405 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 5: for me. I think I made some plays in it. 406 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 5: It got off a little rocky for me, but I 407 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 5: feel like I finished room. 408 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 3: So what's next for you? 409 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: How much time you can take off before you're back 410 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: in the boxing ring getting ready? 411 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 5: It just depends, man, It just depends on how long 412 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 5: it takes everything on my body to hell up and 413 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 5: get back fresh again. I usually take a little bit 414 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 5: of time off, but I do a lot of actor recovery. 415 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 3: Malik, best of luck. I can't wait to see next. 416 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 4: Year for sure, man. 417 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. 418 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 2: Thanks always cool to talk with Malik. And you heard 419 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,479 Speaker 2: that little chit chat about the boxing there at the end. 420 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: If you've not seen it, go to YouTube and type 421 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: in Malik Collins boxing in the search area and you'll 422 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: see what I'm talking about. 423 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 4: It. 424 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: It's a fun story that we did with him last 425 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: spring at boxing gym for Parkinson's patience. Yes, if that 426 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: sounds confusing, I understand, but just go watch the video 427 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: and you'll see what I'm talking about. 428 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: Thanks to Malik for the time. Okay. 429 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 2: We also had a chance on that day after the 430 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 2: season to talk with quarterback case Keenum. He and I 431 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: went basically one on one and I heard his thoughts 432 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 2: about what just went down in twenty twenty three and 433 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: what's ahead for CJ. Stroud and the rest of this franchise. 434 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 2: A case on an individual level, how much fun was 435 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 2: this year for you? 436 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 6: It's too much fun, man, It was a blast. 437 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 4: I had so much fun. 438 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 6: There's so many different memories, so many different times, different 439 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 6: guys that I have incredible bonds with. Now. I love 440 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 6: this game of football, and to be able to do 441 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 6: it here in Houston, in my hometown that this group 442 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 6: of guys was very special to have some really big 443 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 6: games that mattered. Here was awesome to play in. Some 444 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 6: was even icing on the cake man, and to do 445 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 6: that was was really fun. 446 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: You're an optimistic guy. How was your level of optimism 447 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 2: in me be mid July comparable to what it was 448 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: in November. What'd you think of that team before everything 449 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: started versus hey, we're into this now and we could 450 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: do some things. 451 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 4: I think we all had confidence. 452 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 6: It's just the combination of guys who hadn't played together 453 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 6: or were young guys. It was just hard to know 454 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 6: in July and camp you know what we were going 455 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 6: to be like. I mean, you saw flashes of it, 456 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 6: but in this league everybody's good and can flash. But 457 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 6: it's about sustaining that and putting together those type of 458 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 6: plays when. 459 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 4: It really mattered. 460 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: And this team did down the. 461 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 6: Stretch to make the playoffs, to win a playoff game, 462 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 6: and you know, to win a division, to do what 463 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 6: Dimico did, to do what CJ did, all these guys 464 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 6: in their first year. That's impressive. 465 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: You haven't shied away from talking about what's possible with 466 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: CJ Stroud. What's most important though, in between now and 467 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: maybe the start off season, conditioning for a guy like that. 468 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 4: Oh, there's a lot of things. 469 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you got to do what's best 470 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 6: for yourself because there's a lot of different ways you 471 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 6: can when you get away from here and train and stuff. 472 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 6: So yeah, I think you'll you'll get away. You can 473 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 6: probably ask him, we'll get away from it for a 474 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 6: little bit recharge. Your rookie year is really really tough 475 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 6: because coming from that off season workout for me it 476 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 6: was at Houston, but as him for Ohio State before 477 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 6: your senior season or your last season, to going through 478 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 6: that year, obviously the ups and downs, big season for him, 479 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 6: it was a big season for me, and then you 480 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 6: get really straight into training for the Combine, then train 481 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 6: for your pro day. Then your draft comes and it's 482 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 6: like okay, here's this playbook and it's massive. You're like, 483 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 6: oh my gosh, so you have to learn all that. 484 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 6: OTA's rookie mini camp. You get like a couple weeks 485 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 6: in the summer, and then it's the longest season of 486 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 6: your life and to go in the playoffs and do 487 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 6: what he did and it's impressive. So to unwind a 488 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 6: little bit, get your body back, mind back is very important. 489 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 3: Case. 490 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: Keenum is an absolute treasure. He was integral to the 491 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 2: success of this franchise this season and can't wait to 492 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 2: see what he does in twenty twenty four. Okay, we 493 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: also talked with ten Quatriano, as you heard off the 494 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 2: top the tight End going into year three. He missed 495 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 2: most of year two with an injury, but he's somebody 496 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: that's got some skills. We saw some of it last 497 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: year as a rookie, so TQ went one on one 498 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 2: with me and shared a little bit about what it's 499 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: ahead for him and what he thought of what he 500 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 2: saw in twenty twenty three. That's all the time we 501 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: got for today. We appreciate you checking us out. Please remember, 502 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: go subscribe, go follow this podcast so you get it 503 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 2: on a regular basis and it's always hitting your inbox. 504 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 3: On a Wednesday. 505 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: So for John and those players that we talked with, 506 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 2: I really appreciate it, and I appreciate you gentle listener, 507 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: for checking us out and having so much fun with 508 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 2: us and making us a part of your day or night. 509 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 2: Until next time, this has been in the lab