WEBVTT - Army of the Unvaccinated 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.560 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA f Daily with 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:21.280 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording live from my Brooklyn Cilarium. 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:26.320 Dear friends, you know, I want to say that yesterday 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:32.479 I was pissed and I still remain pissed about the 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:39.720 world's reactions to South African scientists discovering the omnicron omicron 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:44.440 omicron amarion. The fucking O variant is what I'm going 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:49.440 to start referring to it as um. You know, I 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:51.879 will have a discussion in a little bit with our 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:55.720 friend doctor Jonathan Metzel, and we have a posing views 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:59.080 on the travel band that was instituted by the United 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.440 States and many of their nations with regard to blocking 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:06.120 South Africa and the surrounding countries from being able to 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:10.399 enter into their country. And I say this that we 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:16.200 cannot divorce ourselves from the reality of colonization, white supremacy, 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:21.520 and manifest destiny, right. We cannot divorce ourselves and suspend 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:29.040 reality in the way to make space for what is unrealistic, right, 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:32.840 which is the fact that, oh, the travel bands were 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:37.080 instituted because you know, we want to do the right thing. 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.160 We want to prevent the spread we want to do 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.000 all of this stuff. Well, yeah, that's all great and fine, 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:47.480 except at the same time that the omnicron variant was 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:53.280 discovered in South Africa, it had already been discovered in Belgium, 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:55.920 it had already made its way to the Netherlands, it 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.920 had already shown up in other parts of the world. 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:03.720 And yet yet those that discovered it and chose to 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:09.040 be transparent about that information were then economically hindered and shunned. 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:18.880 You know, you had Secretary blinkin say and refer to 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:27.080 what the South African scientists have done as being extraordinarily transparent, 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:31.200 And I said, so, is this how we reward transparency? 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:35.440 And how is it that not one fucking reporter as 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:40.200 of yet has still asked the question, why when the 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:45.359 variant was discovered in other places, was it that only 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:51.280 African nations were banned? Right? Like, that's the question. And 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:55.320 I just don't understand why we make shit that is easy, 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:59.880 super fucking complicated, right, And I'm saying, put people on 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.320 the defense, make them have to give you the reason 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:08.720 outside of racism, outside of xenophobia, as to why when 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.920 it comes to things being discovered in black and brown 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:16.120 nations that there's a rush for quote unquote isolation. But 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:20.720 when it's discovered in your white countries, right, or wider 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:27.440 countries demographically, that then it's oh, our neighbors, our colleagues, 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.360 and these are the things that we're going to be doing. 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.880 I'm just saying, call a fucking spade a spade, And 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.160 right now I'm calling bullshit on the Biden administration. I'm 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:39.960 calling bullshit on the UK, I'm calling bullshit on Switzerland, 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:44.560 I'm calling bullshit on Germany because those countries right outside 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:47.840 of the United States that gave their tepid endorsement for 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:54.520 ending trips, right, for ending right the inability for poorer, 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:58.400 lower incominations to be able to create their own vaccines 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:03.160 by lifting the fucking patents, by lifting the intellectual property 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:08.240 guards on the vaccine, so that everyone in the world 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:12.960 can get fucking vaccinated. Right, Like, folks, when you start 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:17.000 to pull back the veil, the ship is not that deep. Right, 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.800 It comes back to two things. It comes back to 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:24.480 racism and capitalism, the things that have us all collectively 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:30.080 going to fucking die of whiteness. Right. And I'm just like, 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:35.840 I'm exhausted with trying to twist myself into different states 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:39.000 of being to say the same things over and over 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:44.480 and over again. You know, I also want to talk 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:51.279 about the mainstream media's inability to fucking call out racists 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.560 and just say the fucking word, just in the same 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:59.120 way that abortion advocates are looking for this administration to 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:05.279 stop you using things statements like safe and a safe 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:09.120 and limited you know, in terms of in terms of abortion, 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.560 are safe and rarely used in terms of abortion. It's 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:16.120 like we want abortions to be safe and used whenever 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:20.960 the fuck they are needed, right, not rare, right, not abundant, 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:24.400 when they are needed, period, full stop. So, just like 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:28.320 abortion activists are waiting for the Biden administration to get 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:32.359 their shit together and pull their narrative away from the 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:37.120 nineteen nineties and into the twenty first century, I too, 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.760 am waiting for mainstream media to actually refer to the 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:45.200 Republican Party as the white supremacist terrorists party. I am 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:49.320 waiting for them to fucking call out the Lauren Boubert's 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:53.200 and the fucking Marjorie Taylor Greens, and the Josh Hally's right, 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:57.560 and the Ted Cruises and the Lindsay Grahams right and 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:02.520 call them out for their fucking racism. If you have 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:06.680 an entire party filled with Lauren Baubert's and Marjorie Taylor 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.920 Greens and every single other day out of their fucking 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:16.599 stupid mouths, right, is some hot racist, anti Muslim, xenophobic 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:22.560 shit and you can't even muster muster a response, muster 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:27.480 a condemnation, right, even pretend that this isn't who your 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.600 fucking party is. Then they are showing you who the 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.479 fuck they are. So why are you making it up 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:38.000 that you don't know where their hearts and souls lie? 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.160 Why are you making it up? Does somebody need to 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:44.360 say the N word on television right, holding a fucking 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:47.200 news in one hand and the fucking hood and the 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:51.160 other for people to recognize that racism is a rampant 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:53.880 and white supremacy is on the rise, and it has 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:58.839 a leading force in an entire political party. That is 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:02.599 our barometer, dear friends, And just wait a couple of weeks, 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:06.040 because I'm sure that that's where Lauren Brobert is going 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:11.960 with her bullshit call to Congresswoman il Han Omar. Where 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:16.280 she's on the other line Representative Omar, waiting for the 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.520 fucking apology or at least the offer of a public 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:25.400 apology for your hot fucking anti Muslim shit, and then 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:29.679 you want to turn around and screech and call names 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:33.280 and then have a whole press conference about how you're 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:38.280 the victim. Karen, sit the fuck down, right, like I am, 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:42.640 just exhausted by them as a whole. You don't know 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:47.800 how government works. You're not interested in governing for the people, 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.720 for the stupid motherfuckers that voted you into office in 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:55.440 the goddamn place, right, Like I cannot believe every single 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:59.560 day I tell you, because I tell the story about 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.960 how how excited and proud I was to work on 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.320 Capitol Hill in every fucking day that I got to 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:10.520 talk about Lauren Bobert or Marjorie Taylor Green or whatever 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:15.240 other dumb fuck shit from the Republican Party makes my 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:19.880 blood boil. It makes me fucking sick to my stomach. 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:24.760 That these people are wearing a congressional pin right, that 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:29.840 Marjorie Taylor Green is working overtime to get Kyle Rittenhouse 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:35.240 a congressional Gold Medal of freedom for being a fucking murderer. 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.400 That this is the state of where we are. But 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:42.200 remember that before his fucking death, which should have been 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:46.720 a long time coming. Rush Limbaugh also received the highest 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.679 medal in the land from Donald Trump. So we already 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:55.040 know that these medals now are tarnished right for decades 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:58.520 decades to come if this is what you're gonna fucking do. 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:03.320 But let me say this on the Rittenhouse front. My god, 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:09.280 do I want to applaud the young college folks at 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:14.400 Arizona State University. So apparently it was said that, you know, 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:19.160 Kyle Rittenhouse, after being acquitted for killing two people and 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:23.760 wounding another one, was going to re enroll or enroll 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:29.080 for the first time who the fuck knows at Arizona State. Well, 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:33.920 as it turns out, these other college kids don't want 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:37.520 to go to school with a fucking murderer, and so 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:42.480 they staged protests, wrote demands, and now it is being 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:47.320 reported that Kyle Rittenhouse is no longer enrolled at said 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:51.520 school and that he is taking a pause, yeah, pause, 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:56.000 and recognize that outside of the fucking magabubble, the world 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:59.360 knows that you're a murderer, you piece of shit, right 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:03.320 that outside of your little Marilago tour that you got 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.280 with Donald Trump, that your name is going to be 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:11.560 synonymous with murderer. So when you are looking to go 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:15.160 to school to get a job, maybe just stay within 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:18.360 that Maga path because that's the only ship that's going 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.440 to work for you, right. And I want this to 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.320 be a lesson to any other university that he is 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:28.080 thinking about attending that is not Liberty University or maybe 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:32.000 you know, Trump University will be back again, right, because 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:36.120 what is old is always new again. That I want 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.600 him to have nowhere to go to, have no job. 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:43.960 I don't want Kyle Rittenhouse ever casually sitting down anywhere 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:48.160 enjoying himself because you know what, the two families that 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:52.960 he ruined, right, the people's lives that he took, will 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:57.599 never see normalcy ever or fucking again, and neither should he. 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:01.360 He should be made to feel uncomfortable, to feel fucking sick. 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.480 I want to hear from years down the road that 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.160 he is a fucking shut in. That's what I want. 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:11.320 And people can say, oh, Danielle, that's too much blah 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:16.880 blah blah, No, do you know what's too much? Rage 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:26.400 filled white men with guns being able to turn our 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:31.080 society into their fucking playground, into the wild wild West, 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.160 where they can go out and they can call citizens, 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:37.480 arrest or they can decide that somebody shouldn't belong and 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.920 that a black person needs to show their papers, and 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.199 that they're going to go and protect property and do 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.520 what other people wouldn't do. Right, That's what is said 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:50.360 about Kyle Rittenhouse. So I want the rest of us, 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:55.800 the majority right of us, to make it so fucking 0:11:55.880 --> 0:12:00.280 uncomfortable for him to exist. That's what I want. That's 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.720 what I want his future to look like, because he 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:08.360 robbed two people, two families of their future with their 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:13.600 loved one, and he will never face the consequences for it. 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:18.319 And so, you know, to put white people on notice too, 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.760 because the people that he murdered were not black and 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:25.240 brown people, right, because that would have just been a 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.160 given that he was going to go to jail, that 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.480 he wasn't going to go to jail, right, because that's 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.960 what we do here in America. But it puts other 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.080 white folks on notice and saying, wait a minute. So 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:40.920 by me going out and supporting, you know, a protest 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:44.360 and airing my First Amendment rights, that I could be 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.480 taken down. This is unjust, this is not right. Well, 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.760 this is the norm for black and brown people in 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:53.560 this country that I hope that white folks are waking 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:58.520 up too, because what you are seeing as the tide 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:02.680 continues to turn and the tempest continues to churn in 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:07.280 this country is that you are not safe either, that 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:11.640 you will no longer be afforded the protection of your whiteness. 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:15.800 And so what does that mean? It is clear and 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:20.600 evident that the battle lines in this country have been drawn. Right, 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:24.560 you have people asking, well, how many elections do we 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.000 got to keep doing before I get to use my guns? 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:31.120 That was a real question that was recorded and asked 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:37.800 at a right wing rally. They are geared up and ready, folks. 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:44.200 The Written House decision, Lauren Bobert's actions right, they are 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:48.280 all just adding consistent fuel to the fire that continues 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:53.200 to rage and go on. Checked. And when we pretend right, 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:58.359 when we pretend that a guilty verdict in the McMichael's 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:02.200 case somehow nullified the not guilty verdict in the Written 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:06.040 House case, we are being intellectually dishonest about where we 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:11.520 are in America, where we are in the world. You 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.319 shouldn't have to get down on both knees, hope and 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:18.120 pray to whatever God you believe in or don't that 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.400 the criminal justice system is going to function in the 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.560 way that it was created to function, which was to 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:30.440 be quote unquote non seeing right. But it sees everything. 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:34.160 It sees color, it sees class, it sees creed right, 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:44.000 and bases its judgments on all of those things. I'm 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.960 just so tired of it all because what I realize 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:52.760 there's just nowhere to look where you can say, oh, 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:57.400 that's not about racism. Oh that's not about capitalism, right, Like, 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:02.680 oh it's about something else it isn't. And the sooner 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:07.200 that we recognize that and make people accountable to that truth, 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:11.560 the better off we will all be. Coming up next, friends, 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:16.000 is my conversation with our woke Wednesday good doctor, doctor 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:20.359 Jonathan Metzel, talking about a recent piece in the Washington 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:28.000 Post about Republicans, you know, willing to kill their constituency. Folks, 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.040 you know that when it is a Wednesday, we are 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.720 lucky to be joined by our in house doctor, doctor 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.960 Jonathan Metzel, the author of Dying of a Whiteness, who 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.320 runs us through how this country and possibly the entire globe, 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:44.360 is in fact going to die of whiteness Jonathan. This 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:48.240 week in The Washington Post, Jennifer Rubin wrote a piece 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:50.760 that I swear to God, if she had read your book, 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.160 she wouldn't have needed to write the piece. But it 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:57.400 was entitled the GOP doesn't care about the suffering it causes, 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.600 even among its own base, And in it, she goes 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:06.760 on to report about how Florida, Iowa, Kansas, and Tennessee 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:11.560 have just recently changed their unemployment insurance rules to allow 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.440 workers who are fired to quit over vaccine mandates to 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:19.320 get benefits. She pointed to the fact that former White 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:26.840 House physician now Representative Ronnie Jackson, Republican from Texas, known 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:31.400 for his, as she writes here, unintentionally comedic flattery of 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:35.000 the former president and for describing the Biden administration's vaccine 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:39.880 program as socialist communist Marxists, has piped up with an 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:43.920 insane conspiracy theory that he says that he believes that 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.600 they're going to Democrats are going to come up with 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:52.160 MV the midterm election variant, because apparently Ronnie Jackson thinks 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:55.720 that the entire world that is suffering from a global 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.880 health pandemic is just doing so to fuck with Republicans, 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:04.320 you know. In this piece, Jennifer runs through the ways 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:08.160 in which particularly let me read you this part. Florida 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:12.639 has now seen more than sixty one thousand coronavirus deaths, 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.800 about two hundred and eighty four for every one hundred 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:20.840 thousand residents. New York, by comparison, has seen fifty six thousand, 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:24.320 six hundred and forty five deaths two hundred and eighty 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:29.040 per one hundred thousand residents. One year ago, before the vaccines, 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:33.679 New York's per capita toll was nearly twice Florida's. What 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.280 does this tell you where we are right now? Well, 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.040 I like that piece by Jennifer. I think she did 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:42.520 a good job. She has my book because I hand 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:44.800 delivered it to her. I gave it to her at 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:48.399 Politicon two years ago. But I don't I don't have 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:52.119 any ownership of this issue. I mean, really, honestly, everybody's 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.160 kind of alarmed with this. We just had a big 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:56.360 piece in Tennessee and the Tennessee and is doing great 0:17:56.400 --> 0:18:01.080 reporting where they found over seventeen thousand rural Red state 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.520 people died from COVID who were unvaccinated, but there was 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.639 no data that they actually stopped calling the data, so 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:09.720 nobody knew about it. I think it was like ninety 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:12.600 percent of the people who were dying were unvaccinated. But 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.040 just like the gun debate, I mean, that's the issue 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:16.639 for me. I've been studying the gun debate for a 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:21.160 decade before all this pandemic crap, and I've just seen, 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.760 you know, it just it feels like deja voo. But 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:27.200 if there's a deja vu that's also like fifty thousand 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.440 times more amplified, That's kind of what it is right now, 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.880 because what they learned from the gun debate is if 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:36.159 you couch something as a front to your liberty or 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:38.919 your freedom, it's a great way to get people to 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:42.080 act against their own biological self interest, against their own 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.760 public health self interest, by telling them we're going to 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:47.399 take power, and you're going to be part of the 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.720 winning team. You're going to be taking power over the 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:56.000 minority groups or liberals or traitors, any evenything like that. 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.840 And so in a way, the republic I just I mean, 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.400 I think the issue for me, I'm kind of saying 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.680 nine things at one time because I'm so charged by 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.960 this right now, is that people shouldn't think of the 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:09.800 Republican Party as a as a governing party that looks 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:13.640 out for the interests of its people. It's a it's 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:15.680 a theory of power. It's a theory of how to 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:18.800 get an own power. And just like any army that 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.639 takes power, there are people at the top and there 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.320 are people at the bottom who are disposable, and so 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:26.800 in a way, everybody is kind of signing up for 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.000 this army. But I don't think we should think, oh 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:31.560 my god, these guys, aren't you know, they're voting for 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.879 their self interest. Self interest is power and white supremacy. 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:37.800 It's not public health. It's not commune of public health. 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:40.119 And so I just I don't think there's almost anything 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.520 surprising about it anymore, even though we do need to 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:45.320 keep pointing it out number one and the number two, 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:48.320 try to think about ways we can unhook this system. 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:50.760 I think it's actually easier to think about how to 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:53.000 address the Republican Party if we don't think of it 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:54.720 as a governing party. We think of it as just 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:58.840 a power scheme kind of which is what it is. 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.040 But I just think this shock of like, oh my god, people, 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.600 I mean, there's there's no thing like I've studied gun 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:09.240 violence for ten years. People in Red States were dying 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:12.320 of guns, suicide, the effects of guns on their own 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:16.000 kids schools was never more clear. But because this was 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.639 being coded as like individual choice, freedom, liberty against all 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.320 the encroaching, you know, evil liberals and all that kind 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:24.440 of stuff, people would just kept signing up for it. 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:26.960 And the other part about the gun debate is that 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.600 not only did they train people to hate public health, 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:35.560 to resist public health, they also trained people not to 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:37.639 have access to the data. I mean that there was 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:41.080 ten years of squelching all the data and so there 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:44.320 was no there there was no public health infrastructure. So 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:47.000 in a way, this I just it's just crazy to 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.879 me that we've seen all this before on a smaller scale. 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:53.480 They're basically just nationalizing the exact same playbook they've done 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:56.600 with guns for the past, you know, thirty years. This 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:59.800 is one of the things that Rubens says in her 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:04.280 piece as well. Their coronavirus death cult maybe the most 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:09.680 egregious example of Republicans destructive oppositional behavior, but it is 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:13.439 hardly the only one. MAGA hardliners still want to punish 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:17.080 the thirteen House Republicans who had the temerity to vote 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:19.520 for the infrastructure bill on the grounds that it would 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:23.840 help their constituents they'll countenance for that, she says. Likewise, 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:27.679 Republicans voted unanimously against the American Rescue Plan, but then 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:31.720 touted its benefits, including the bill's programs to help struggling restaurants. 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:35.320 And while Republicans have been ranting about inflation, they also 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:38.520 voted unanimously in the House against the Build Back Better Plan, 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:42.520 which would, among other things, have reduced the cost of childcare, housing, 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:46.919 Affordable Care Act premiums, and prescription drugs for millions of people. 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:52.280 She said, it's almost as though Republicans are rooting for 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:59.879 inflation to devastate Americans. I mean, Jonathan, like we've reached 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:05.960 I feel like a psychotic moment, right for the Republican Party, 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:10.680 but also for this country where to your point, I mean, 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:13.280 I've been saying it forever, we don't have a two 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:17.320 party system, right, because a two party functional democracy would 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.720 have two parties that work on behalf of their ideologies 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:24.159 to come to a place of compromise to do what 0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:28.600 is best for their citizens. Right, That's not where we are. 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:32.840 We see time and time again, just recently this week, 0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:36.280 of simple legislation that could be passed so that we 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:39.800 can get to the Build Back Better Act being passed 0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:44.800 in the Senate being thwarted by Republicans. It doesn't seem 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:48.840 to matter, though, if our rebuttal is to tell the 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:53.040 American public the truth about, for instance, what is inside 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:57.200 of the Infrastructure Bill, or the truth about how Republicans 0:22:57.240 --> 0:23:01.240 are actively trying to kill them and are successfully doing so. 0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:05.760 Because to your point, the truth doesn't matter and hasn't 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:09.040 mattered in such a long time. And so, you know, 0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:12.000 as you continue to go across the country, go around 0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:15.359 the country into these very red states to talk with 0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:21.439 white folks, rural folks there, you know, at this point, 0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:24.520 is there an end, is there a way to sway 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:27.399 or are we just at a point where we need 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:30.879 to recognize that twenty five percent of the population, the 0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:34.119 seventy plus million people or sixty five million depending on 0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:37.640 who you ask, that voted for Donald Trump and our 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:40.760 you know, gung hope with the Republican Party are just 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:43.040 going to be just that and we need to focus 0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:48.160 instead on the seventy five percent that is sane. Well, again, 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:50.600 I do think we've talked about this a bunch or 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:52.119 two things we've talked about a much. One is that 0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:54.760 I do think that we need to have better strategies 0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:59.000 for we need to have better strategies for addressing the 0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:01.280 seventy five percent. In other words, I do think that 0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:02.600 there is a time if we're going to build a 0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:05.400 party of seventy five we really need to think about 0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:06.920 what does that mean? How do you do that? But 0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:10.320 I also think it's super important just to recognize that 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:13.399 just highlighting the I mean, let me just tell you 0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:15.960 how crazy it is. I'm in Tennessee right now, and 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:19.280 they're paying people to not get the vaccine here basically, 0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:23.320 I mean, basically, the state pass to bill that if 0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:26.119 you are if you if there's a vaccine mandate at 0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:28.600 your work, and you lose your job because you refuse 0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:33.879 to get the vaccine, then the state will pay you 0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:38.199 your unemployment insurance. And these are the same people who 0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:40.880 are critiquing the stimulus, right, think of the same guys 0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:42.920 who were saying, oh, it's crazy, But now they're creating 0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:47.119 people who are monetized for losing their jobs for not 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:49.119 getting the vaccine, and the state's paying for them. So 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:52.640 consistency is not the strong suit here. But if if 0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:57.160 the goal is to take power to create an army 0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:00.480 of the unvaccinated, which I do think is what Republicans 0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:02.160 are trying to do right now to create a kind 0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:06.399 of orc army of people who are basically martyrs in 0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:08.160 a certain kind of way, that they're willing to throw 0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:10.760 their health out the window in pursuit of this larger goal. 0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:14.399 And the question is what's your response to that? And 0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:18.200 I don't see I don't see the Democrats having that 0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:20.720 in their arsenal right now? How to respond to that? 0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:24.800 I mean to be fair, Jonathan, because I critique Democrats 0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:28.560 all the time, you know, is there a response to 0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:34.800 people that literally change the rules of every game whenever 0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:39.600 they get the ball. So, for instance, it was largely panned, right, 0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:44.040 and we rescinded unemployment benefits because we were told by 0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:47.639 CEOs and shareholders and Republicans who are in their pocket 0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:50.840 that people are just being paid to stay home, and 0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:53.919 we got to save the economy, open up the economy, right, 0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:56.480 And so a way to do that was to then 0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:59.760 punish those people that had lost their jobs, couldn't afford 0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:02.320 to food on the table, are now back in lines 0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:05.920 at food pantries to do so, and we cut off 0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:09.840 their unemployment benefits. Now Republicans are saying no, no, no, 0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:14.720 we're going to use our tax dollars in our states 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.280 to now fund people to sit at home and spread 0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:22.400 a virus like they're literally paying COVID at this point. 0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:26.040 And so that is if that's what they're doing, and 0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:29.440