1 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA f Daily with 2 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording live from my Brooklyn Cilarium. 3 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: Dear friends, you know, I want to say that yesterday 4 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: I was pissed and I still remain pissed about the 5 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: world's reactions to South African scientists discovering the omnicron omicron 6 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: omicron amarion. The fucking O variant is what I'm going 7 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: to start referring to it as um. You know, I 8 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: will have a discussion in a little bit with our 9 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: friend doctor Jonathan Metzel, and we have a posing views 10 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: on the travel band that was instituted by the United 11 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: States and many of their nations with regard to blocking 12 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: South Africa and the surrounding countries from being able to 13 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: enter into their country. And I say this that we 14 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: cannot divorce ourselves from the reality of colonization, white supremacy, 15 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: and manifest destiny, right. We cannot divorce ourselves and suspend 16 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: reality in the way to make space for what is unrealistic, right, 17 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: which is the fact that, oh, the travel bands were 18 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: instituted because you know, we want to do the right thing. 19 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: We want to prevent the spread we want to do 20 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: all of this stuff. Well, yeah, that's all great and fine, 21 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: except at the same time that the omnicron variant was 22 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: discovered in South Africa, it had already been discovered in Belgium, 23 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: it had already made its way to the Netherlands, it 24 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: had already shown up in other parts of the world. 25 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: And yet yet those that discovered it and chose to 26 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: be transparent about that information were then economically hindered and shunned. 27 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: You know, you had Secretary blinkin say and refer to 28 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: what the South African scientists have done as being extraordinarily transparent, 29 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: And I said, so, is this how we reward transparency? 30 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: And how is it that not one fucking reporter as 31 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: of yet has still asked the question, why when the 32 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: variant was discovered in other places, was it that only 33 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: African nations were banned? Right? Like, that's the question. And 34 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: I just don't understand why we make shit that is easy, 35 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: super fucking complicated, right, And I'm saying, put people on 36 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: the defense, make them have to give you the reason 37 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: outside of racism, outside of xenophobia, as to why when 38 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: it comes to things being discovered in black and brown 39 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: nations that there's a rush for quote unquote isolation. But 40 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: when it's discovered in your white countries, right, or wider 41 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: countries demographically, that then it's oh, our neighbors, our colleagues, 42 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: and these are the things that we're going to be doing. 43 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, call a fucking spade a spade, And 44 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: right now I'm calling bullshit on the Biden administration. I'm 45 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: calling bullshit on the UK, I'm calling bullshit on Switzerland, 46 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm calling bullshit on Germany because those countries right outside 47 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: of the United States that gave their tepid endorsement for 48 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: ending trips, right, for ending right the inability for poorer, 49 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: lower incominations to be able to create their own vaccines 50 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: by lifting the fucking patents, by lifting the intellectual property 51 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: guards on the vaccine, so that everyone in the world 52 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: can get fucking vaccinated. Right, Like, folks, when you start 53 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: to pull back the veil, the ship is not that deep. Right, 54 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: It comes back to two things. It comes back to 55 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: racism and capitalism, the things that have us all collectively 56 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: going to fucking die of whiteness. Right. And I'm just like, 57 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm exhausted with trying to twist myself into different states 58 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: of being to say the same things over and over 59 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: and over again. You know, I also want to talk 60 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: about the mainstream media's inability to fucking call out racists 61 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: and just say the fucking word, just in the same 62 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: way that abortion advocates are looking for this administration to 63 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: stop you using things statements like safe and a safe 64 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: and limited you know, in terms of in terms of abortion, 65 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: are safe and rarely used in terms of abortion. It's 66 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: like we want abortions to be safe and used whenever 67 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: the fuck they are needed, right, not rare, right, not abundant, 68 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: when they are needed, period, full stop. So, just like 69 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: abortion activists are waiting for the Biden administration to get 70 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: their shit together and pull their narrative away from the 71 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: nineteen nineties and into the twenty first century, I too, 72 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: am waiting for mainstream media to actually refer to the 73 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: Republican Party as the white supremacist terrorists party. I am 74 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: waiting for them to fucking call out the Lauren Boubert's 75 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: and the fucking Marjorie Taylor Greens, and the Josh Hally's right, 76 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: and the Ted Cruises and the Lindsay Grahams right and 77 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: call them out for their fucking racism. If you have 78 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: an entire party filled with Lauren Baubert's and Marjorie Taylor 79 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: Greens and every single other day out of their fucking 80 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: stupid mouths, right, is some hot racist, anti Muslim, xenophobic 81 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: shit and you can't even muster muster a response, muster 82 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: a condemnation, right, even pretend that this isn't who your 83 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: fucking party is. Then they are showing you who the 84 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: fuck they are. So why are you making it up 85 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: that you don't know where their hearts and souls lie? 86 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: Why are you making it up? Does somebody need to 87 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: say the N word on television right, holding a fucking 88 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: news in one hand and the fucking hood and the 89 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: other for people to recognize that racism is a rampant 90 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: and white supremacy is on the rise, and it has 91 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: a leading force in an entire political party. That is 92 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: our barometer, dear friends, And just wait a couple of weeks, 93 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: because I'm sure that that's where Lauren Brobert is going 94 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: with her bullshit call to Congresswoman il Han Omar. Where 95 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: she's on the other line Representative Omar, waiting for the 96 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: fucking apology or at least the offer of a public 97 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: apology for your hot fucking anti Muslim shit, and then 98 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 1: you want to turn around and screech and call names 99 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: and then have a whole press conference about how you're 100 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: the victim. Karen, sit the fuck down, right, like I am, 101 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: just exhausted by them as a whole. You don't know 102 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: how government works. You're not interested in governing for the people, 103 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: for the stupid motherfuckers that voted you into office in 104 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: the goddamn place, right, Like I cannot believe every single 105 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: day I tell you, because I tell the story about 106 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: how how excited and proud I was to work on 107 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill in every fucking day that I got to 108 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: talk about Lauren Bobert or Marjorie Taylor Green or whatever 109 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: other dumb fuck shit from the Republican Party makes my 110 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: blood boil. It makes me fucking sick to my stomach. 111 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: That these people are wearing a congressional pin right, that 112 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green is working overtime to get Kyle Rittenhouse 113 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: a congressional Gold Medal of freedom for being a fucking murderer. 114 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: That this is the state of where we are. But 115 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: remember that before his fucking death, which should have been 116 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: a long time coming. Rush Limbaugh also received the highest 117 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: medal in the land from Donald Trump. So we already 118 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: know that these medals now are tarnished right for decades 119 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: decades to come if this is what you're gonna fucking do. 120 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: But let me say this on the Rittenhouse front. My god, 121 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: do I want to applaud the young college folks at 122 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: Arizona State University. So apparently it was said that, you know, 123 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse, after being acquitted for killing two people and 124 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: wounding another one, was going to re enroll or enroll 125 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: for the first time who the fuck knows at Arizona State. Well, 126 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: as it turns out, these other college kids don't want 127 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: to go to school with a fucking murderer, and so 128 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: they staged protests, wrote demands, and now it is being 129 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: reported that Kyle Rittenhouse is no longer enrolled at said 130 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: school and that he is taking a pause, yeah, pause, 131 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: and recognize that outside of the fucking magabubble, the world 132 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: knows that you're a murderer, you piece of shit, right 133 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: that outside of your little Marilago tour that you got 134 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: with Donald Trump, that your name is going to be 135 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: synonymous with murderer. So when you are looking to go 136 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: to school to get a job, maybe just stay within 137 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: that Maga path because that's the only ship that's going 138 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: to work for you, right. And I want this to 139 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: be a lesson to any other university that he is 140 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: thinking about attending that is not Liberty University or maybe 141 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, Trump University will be back again, right, because 142 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: what is old is always new again. That I want 143 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: him to have nowhere to go to, have no job. 144 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: I don't want Kyle Rittenhouse ever casually sitting down anywhere 145 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: enjoying himself because you know what, the two families that 146 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: he ruined, right, the people's lives that he took, will 147 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 1: never see normalcy ever or fucking again, and neither should he. 148 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: He should be made to feel uncomfortable, to feel fucking sick. 149 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: I want to hear from years down the road that 150 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: he is a fucking shut in. That's what I want. 151 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: And people can say, oh, Danielle, that's too much blah 152 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: blah blah, No, do you know what's too much? Rage 153 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: filled white men with guns being able to turn our 154 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: society into their fucking playground, into the wild wild West, 155 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: where they can go out and they can call citizens, 156 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: arrest or they can decide that somebody shouldn't belong and 157 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: that a black person needs to show their papers, and 158 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: that they're going to go and protect property and do 159 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: what other people wouldn't do. Right, That's what is said 160 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: about Kyle Rittenhouse. So I want the rest of us, 161 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: the majority right of us, to make it so fucking 162 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: uncomfortable for him to exist. That's what I want. That's 163 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: what I want his future to look like, because he 164 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: robbed two people, two families of their future with their 165 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: loved one, and he will never face the consequences for it. 166 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: And so, you know, to put white people on notice too, 167 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: because the people that he murdered were not black and 168 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: brown people, right, because that would have just been a 169 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: given that he was going to go to jail, that 170 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: he wasn't going to go to jail, right, because that's 171 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: what we do here in America. But it puts other 172 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: white folks on notice and saying, wait a minute. So 173 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: by me going out and supporting, you know, a protest 174 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: and airing my First Amendment rights, that I could be 175 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: taken down. This is unjust, this is not right. Well, 176 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: this is the norm for black and brown people in 177 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: this country that I hope that white folks are waking 178 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: up too, because what you are seeing as the tide 179 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: continues to turn and the tempest continues to churn in 180 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: this country is that you are not safe either, that 181 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: you will no longer be afforded the protection of your whiteness. 182 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: And so what does that mean? It is clear and 183 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: evident that the battle lines in this country have been drawn. Right, 184 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: you have people asking, well, how many elections do we 185 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: got to keep doing before I get to use my guns? 186 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: That was a real question that was recorded and asked 187 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: at a right wing rally. They are geared up and ready, folks. 188 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: The Written House decision, Lauren Bobert's actions right, they are 189 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: all just adding consistent fuel to the fire that continues 190 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: to rage and go on. Checked. And when we pretend right, 191 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:58,359 Speaker 1: when we pretend that a guilty verdict in the McMichael's 192 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: case somehow nullified the not guilty verdict in the Written 193 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: House case, we are being intellectually dishonest about where we 194 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: are in America, where we are in the world. You 195 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: shouldn't have to get down on both knees, hope and 196 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: pray to whatever God you believe in or don't that 197 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: the criminal justice system is going to function in the 198 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: way that it was created to function, which was to 199 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: be quote unquote non seeing right. But it sees everything. 200 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: It sees color, it sees class, it sees creed right, 201 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: and bases its judgments on all of those things. I'm 202 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: just so tired of it all because what I realize 203 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: there's just nowhere to look where you can say, oh, 204 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: that's not about racism. Oh that's not about capitalism, right, Like, 205 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: oh it's about something else it isn't. And the sooner 206 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: that we recognize that and make people accountable to that truth, 207 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: the better off we will all be. Coming up next, friends, 208 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: is my conversation with our woke Wednesday good doctor, doctor 209 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:20,359 Speaker 1: Jonathan Metzel, talking about a recent piece in the Washington 210 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: Post about Republicans, you know, willing to kill their constituency. Folks, 211 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: you know that when it is a Wednesday, we are 212 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: lucky to be joined by our in house doctor, doctor 213 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: Jonathan Metzel, the author of Dying of a Whiteness, who 214 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: runs us through how this country and possibly the entire globe, 215 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: is in fact going to die of whiteness Jonathan. This 216 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: week in The Washington Post, Jennifer Rubin wrote a piece 217 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: that I swear to God, if she had read your book, 218 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: she wouldn't have needed to write the piece. But it 219 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: was entitled the GOP doesn't care about the suffering it causes, 220 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: even among its own base, And in it, she goes 221 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: on to report about how Florida, Iowa, Kansas, and Tennessee 222 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: have just recently changed their unemployment insurance rules to allow 223 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: workers who are fired to quit over vaccine mandates to 224 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: get benefits. She pointed to the fact that former White 225 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: House physician now Representative Ronnie Jackson, Republican from Texas, known 226 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: for his, as she writes here, unintentionally comedic flattery of 227 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: the former president and for describing the Biden administration's vaccine 228 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: program as socialist communist Marxists, has piped up with an 229 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: insane conspiracy theory that he says that he believes that 230 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: they're going to Democrats are going to come up with 231 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: MV the midterm election variant, because apparently Ronnie Jackson thinks 232 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: that the entire world that is suffering from a global 233 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: health pandemic is just doing so to fuck with Republicans, 234 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: you know. In this piece, Jennifer runs through the ways 235 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: in which particularly let me read you this part. Florida 236 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: has now seen more than sixty one thousand coronavirus deaths, 237 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: about two hundred and eighty four for every one hundred 238 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: thousand residents. New York, by comparison, has seen fifty six thousand, 239 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: six hundred and forty five deaths two hundred and eighty 240 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: per one hundred thousand residents. One year ago, before the vaccines, 241 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: New York's per capita toll was nearly twice Florida's. What 242 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: does this tell you where we are right now? Well, 243 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: I like that piece by Jennifer. I think she did 244 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: a good job. She has my book because I hand 245 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: delivered it to her. I gave it to her at 246 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: Politicon two years ago. But I don't I don't have 247 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: any ownership of this issue. I mean, really, honestly, everybody's 248 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: kind of alarmed with this. We just had a big 249 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: piece in Tennessee and the Tennessee and is doing great 250 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: reporting where they found over seventeen thousand rural Red state 251 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: people died from COVID who were unvaccinated, but there was 252 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: no data that they actually stopped calling the data, so 253 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: nobody knew about it. I think it was like ninety 254 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: percent of the people who were dying were unvaccinated. But 255 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: just like the gun debate, I mean, that's the issue 256 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: for me. I've been studying the gun debate for a 257 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: decade before all this pandemic crap, and I've just seen, 258 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, it just it feels like deja voo. But 259 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: if there's a deja vu that's also like fifty thousand 260 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: times more amplified, That's kind of what it is right now, 261 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: because what they learned from the gun debate is if 262 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: you couch something as a front to your liberty or 263 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: your freedom, it's a great way to get people to 264 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: act against their own biological self interest, against their own 265 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: public health self interest, by telling them we're going to 266 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: take power, and you're going to be part of the 267 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: winning team. You're going to be taking power over the 268 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: minority groups or liberals or traitors, any evenything like that. 269 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: And so in a way, the republic I just I mean, 270 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: I think the issue for me, I'm kind of saying 271 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: nine things at one time because I'm so charged by 272 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: this right now, is that people shouldn't think of the 273 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: Republican Party as a as a governing party that looks 274 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: out for the interests of its people. It's a it's 275 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: a theory of power. It's a theory of how to 276 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: get an own power. And just like any army that 277 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: takes power, there are people at the top and there 278 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: are people at the bottom who are disposable, and so 279 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: in a way, everybody is kind of signing up for 280 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: this army. But I don't think we should think, oh 281 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: my god, these guys, aren't you know, they're voting for 282 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: their self interest. Self interest is power and white supremacy. 283 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: It's not public health. It's not commune of public health. 284 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: And so I just I don't think there's almost anything 285 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: surprising about it anymore, even though we do need to 286 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: keep pointing it out number one and the number two, 287 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: try to think about ways we can unhook this system. 288 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: I think it's actually easier to think about how to 289 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: address the Republican Party if we don't think of it 290 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: as a governing party. We think of it as just 291 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: a power scheme kind of which is what it is. 292 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: But I just think this shock of like, oh my god, people, 293 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's no thing like I've studied gun 294 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: violence for ten years. People in Red States were dying 295 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: of guns, suicide, the effects of guns on their own 296 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: kids schools was never more clear. But because this was 297 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: being coded as like individual choice, freedom, liberty against all 298 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: the encroaching, you know, evil liberals and all that kind 299 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: of stuff, people would just kept signing up for it. 300 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: And the other part about the gun debate is that 301 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: not only did they train people to hate public health, 302 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: to resist public health, they also trained people not to 303 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: have access to the data. I mean that there was 304 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: ten years of squelching all the data and so there 305 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: was no there there was no public health infrastructure. So 306 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: in a way, this I just it's just crazy to 307 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: me that we've seen all this before on a smaller scale. 308 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: They're basically just nationalizing the exact same playbook they've done 309 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: with guns for the past, you know, thirty years. This 310 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: is one of the things that Rubens says in her 311 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: piece as well. Their coronavirus death cult maybe the most 312 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: egregious example of Republicans destructive oppositional behavior, but it is 313 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: hardly the only one. MAGA hardliners still want to punish 314 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: the thirteen House Republicans who had the temerity to vote 315 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: for the infrastructure bill on the grounds that it would 316 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: help their constituents they'll countenance for that, she says. Likewise, 317 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: Republicans voted unanimously against the American Rescue Plan, but then 318 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: touted its benefits, including the bill's programs to help struggling restaurants. 319 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: And while Republicans have been ranting about inflation, they also 320 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: voted unanimously in the House against the Build Back Better Plan, 321 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: which would, among other things, have reduced the cost of childcare, housing, 322 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: Affordable Care Act premiums, and prescription drugs for millions of people. 323 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: She said, it's almost as though Republicans are rooting for 324 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: inflation to devastate Americans. I mean, Jonathan, like we've reached 325 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: I feel like a psychotic moment, right for the Republican Party, 326 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: but also for this country where to your point, I mean, 327 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: I've been saying it forever, we don't have a two 328 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: party system, right, because a two party functional democracy would 329 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: have two parties that work on behalf of their ideologies 330 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: to come to a place of compromise to do what 331 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: is best for their citizens. Right, That's not where we are. 332 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: We see time and time again, just recently this week, 333 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: of simple legislation that could be passed so that we 334 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: can get to the Build Back Better Act being passed 335 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: in the Senate being thwarted by Republicans. It doesn't seem 336 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: to matter, though, if our rebuttal is to tell the 337 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: American public the truth about, for instance, what is inside 338 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: of the Infrastructure Bill, or the truth about how Republicans 339 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: are actively trying to kill them and are successfully doing so. 340 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: Because to your point, the truth doesn't matter and hasn't 341 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: mattered in such a long time. And so, you know, 342 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: as you continue to go across the country, go around 343 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: the country into these very red states to talk with 344 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: white folks, rural folks there, you know, at this point, 345 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: is there an end, is there a way to sway 346 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: or are we just at a point where we need 347 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: to recognize that twenty five percent of the population, the 348 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: seventy plus million people or sixty five million depending on 349 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: who you ask, that voted for Donald Trump and our 350 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, gung hope with the Republican Party are just 351 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: going to be just that and we need to focus 352 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: instead on the seventy five percent that is sane. Well, again, 353 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: I do think we've talked about this a bunch or 354 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: two things we've talked about a much. One is that 355 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: I do think that we need to have better strategies 356 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: for we need to have better strategies for addressing the 357 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: seventy five percent. In other words, I do think that 358 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: there is a time if we're going to build a 359 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: party of seventy five we really need to think about 360 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: what does that mean? How do you do that? But 361 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: I also think it's super important just to recognize that 362 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: just highlighting the I mean, let me just tell you 363 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: how crazy it is. I'm in Tennessee right now, and 364 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: they're paying people to not get the vaccine here basically, 365 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: I mean, basically, the state pass to bill that if 366 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: you are if you if there's a vaccine mandate at 367 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: your work, and you lose your job because you refuse 368 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: to get the vaccine, then the state will pay you 369 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: your unemployment insurance. And these are the same people who 370 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: are critiquing the stimulus, right, think of the same guys 371 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: who were saying, oh, it's crazy, But now they're creating 372 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: people who are monetized for losing their jobs for not 373 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: getting the vaccine, and the state's paying for them. So 374 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: consistency is not the strong suit here. But if if 375 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: the goal is to take power to create an army 376 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: of the unvaccinated, which I do think is what Republicans 377 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: are trying to do right now to create a kind 378 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: of orc army of people who are basically martyrs in 379 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: a certain kind of way, that they're willing to throw 380 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: their health out the window in pursuit of this larger goal. 381 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: And the question is what's your response to that? And 382 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: I don't see I don't see the Democrats having that 383 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: in their arsenal right now? How to respond to that? 384 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: I mean to be fair, Jonathan, because I critique Democrats 385 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: all the time, you know, is there a response to 386 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: people that literally change the rules of every game whenever 387 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: they get the ball. So, for instance, it was largely panned, right, 388 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: and we rescinded unemployment benefits because we were told by 389 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: CEOs and shareholders and Republicans who are in their pocket 390 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: that people are just being paid to stay home, and 391 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: we got to save the economy, open up the economy, right, 392 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: And so a way to do that was to then 393 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: punish those people that had lost their jobs, couldn't afford 394 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: to food on the table, are now back in lines 395 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: at food pantries to do so, and we cut off 396 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: their unemployment benefits. Now Republicans are saying no, no, no, 397 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: we're going to use our tax dollars in our states 398 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: to now fund people to sit at home and spread 399 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: a virus like they're literally paying COVID at this point. 400 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: And so that is if that's what they're doing, and 401 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if we point out their hypocrisy, we 402 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: point out them speaking out of both sides of their mouth. 403 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: I just am confused about what the alternative is. Well, 404 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: there's no answer right now, right we're paying defense all 405 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: the time. I mean, I've been saying for two years 406 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: and I don't have any more insight into this than 407 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: anybody else. Well, maybe I have a little bit more. 408 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: Is we need to put the Republicans on the defense 409 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: of with their base. In other words, as an addition 410 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: to building our base. We passed multiple chances where we 411 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: could really target make make Republicans answer to their base, 412 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: which means actually understanding what motivates their base and trying 413 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: to circumvent that narrative. And so, in addition to paying 414 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: attention to ourselves and pay attention to seventy five percent 415 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: of people who on my flight just now, we're wearing 416 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: masks and we're afraid of the twenty five percent of 417 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: the people who refuse to wear masks. But you also 418 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: have to figure out a way to put Republicans make 419 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: them pay the price for their for their policies with 420 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: their base, which means having ways to talk to their 421 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: base in ways that are not the usual democratic ways. 422 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: Now I realize it's just easy for me, some random 423 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: guide to say that. And I know the Lincoln Project is, 424 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: you know, on the outs and all that kind of 425 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: stuff right now. But at least they were the one 426 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: time where it's like, oh, yeah, we're speaking their language 427 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: in a way. And I think there are multiple times. 428 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm watching the infrastructure right now. What messaging 429 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: are we doing around this great infrastructure bill that we're 430 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,239 Speaker 1: that we already passed. It's going to shape the narrative right, 431 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: And so in a way, it's just I mean, again, 432 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: I think we've just given up on people and say, oh, 433 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: they're too far gone. But I don't think that's the goal. 434 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: The goal is make make Republicans have to answer to 435 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: their base. You know, what's wrong with you that your 436 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: leader didn't give you healthcare? Or Trump lost the election. 437 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: Trump's a loser, asked Trump why he's a loser. Losers 438 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: lose elections, you know, stuff like that, like we never 439 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: we never make we never put them on the defensive 440 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: with their own people. And so I think until we 441 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: start doing that, and maybe it's too late now, but 442 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: even with the Affordable Care Act and all these kind 443 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: of things, and again it's not like they're all listening 444 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: to MSNBC and stuff like that. But I just think 445 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: we've we've we've let ourselves become too isolated in our 446 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: own messaging and who we talk to and stuff like that. 447 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: And so my sense is just people aren't crazy, they're 448 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: at They're not like pants on fire crazy. But I 449 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: do think that there's a vacuum where there's no counter 450 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: message to all this crazy stuff, and I think we've 451 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: kind of given up on that. That's that's my critique 452 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: of this stuff is at the earlier time, maybe it's 453 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: too late now, but at the earlier time, when vaccines 454 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: first came out, when we had a chance to expand 455 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: the Affordable Care Act, during the beginning parts of the pandemic, 456 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: when people were getting money from the government, when the 457 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: infrastructure bills passed, there's a chance to shape that narrative. 458 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: Not just for people who already agree with us, but 459 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: to put Republicans on the defensive from you shape the 460 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: narrative to people who don't agree with you, right and 461 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: force them to answer that. And I don't know, it's funny. 462 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: You and I have talked about this, I Jonathan kay Parton, 463 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: I had a good conversation about this kind of stuff. 464 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: But it's just that's not the kind of messaging we do. 465 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: It's kind of like, oh, you don't see the benefit 466 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: of stimulus, what's wrong with you? Or something like that. 467 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: And so I don't know, we're really good at the diagnosis, 468 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: and this is a horrible diagnosis. Right. They are literally, 469 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: I can just tell you. I'm living down to Tennessee. 470 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: They are literally creating an army of people who will 471 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: who are who? They're creating an army of the unvaccinated. 472 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it feels like. And so the 473 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: question is how do you circumvent that. You build your enforces, 474 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: but you also shape the narrative in ways that make 475 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: them play defense, and we never make them play you know. 476 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: I agree on the defense part, and I honestly think 477 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: that it is And I blame the mainstream media a 478 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: lot for this because they also benefit They benefit from 479 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: the back and forth. They benefit from those ratings, and 480 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: there is an opportunity that you know, during the entire 481 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: Trump administration, I watched the questions or non questions that 482 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: were asked, and I listen to them interview Kevin McCarthy 483 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: and Mitch McConnell and don't ever ask them like, why 484 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: is it that you don't care about your base dying 485 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: of COVID? Why is it that you are couchelling to 486 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: people that are egregiously bigots, right and racist? And I 487 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: want to zoom out for a moment on our collective 488 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: worry around COVID nineteen and how we're dealing with it 489 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: or not dealing with it in the States in terms 490 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: of the twenty five percent that just ain't going to 491 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: get fucking vaccinated. And I want to turn attention for 492 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: a moment to what happened over the holiday with regard 493 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: to the announcement of a new variant that was identified 494 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: in South Africa amikron. And you know, I have been 495 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: really outraged and expressing those views on Twitter around the 496 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: knee jerk reaction to ban uh severn African nations, when 497 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: in fact, at the same time that it was announced 498 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: through South African doctors and scientists that the new variant 499 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: was discovered. It was also found to be in parts 500 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: of Europe, and now it's all over Europe. Right as 501 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 1: of this recording, there are over two hundred and twenty 502 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: roughly two hundred and twenty four. I think doctor Faucci 503 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: had said known cases of amikron version of COVID. What 504 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: is your reaction to what are your thoughts about how 505 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: the United States, how the abiden and administration handled the 506 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: transparency out of South Africa and then turned around and 507 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: economically punished in and those are my words, economically punished 508 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: this seven countries around South Africa, including South Africa. The 509 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: question I've been asking myself is would they Would they 510 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: have had the same response if it was coming from 511 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: somewhere else, And I'm going to have you a counterintuitive 512 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: example answer. I think they would have. And the reason 513 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: is I know that there's a lot of racism, colonial history, 514 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: all these factors at play here, but I think beneath 515 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: all of this, and of course that shape part of it, 516 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: but I think beneath all of this, the most important 517 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: point about what's happened is that the virus has mutated 518 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: in a way that in their wildest dreams scientists could 519 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: not have anticipated. So I think when people saw these 520 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: mutations on the spike protein, the scariest part about all this, 521 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: it was just like a kicking the scrow to a 522 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: moment for scientists around the country, around the world, because 523 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: I don't think they thought that a virus could mutate 524 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: as quickly as this. It just came totally out of 525 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: the blue, and so there was a panic moment, I think, 526 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: And I think the response of that panic moment in 527 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: the first moment was just give us some more time 528 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: to just catch our breath and figure out what happened here. 529 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: And so I think that the panic was of the thing. Now, 530 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: certainly they responded the wrong way there. They had a 531 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: bad week, no doubt about that kind of stuff. But 532 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: I do think that the impulse of let's just protect ourselves, 533 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: will we figure out what we're facing, because what we're 534 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: facing is so incredibly unexpected that I would iould, I 535 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: would think, and I don't know that if you under 536 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: a microscope saw this level of mutation, it's three years 537 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: too soon for this virus to be mutating this way. 538 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's it's unheard of and viruses 539 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: don't act this way, and so all of a sudden 540 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: people got terrified they had PTSD from you know, what 541 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: happened before, and they acted irrationally. There's no doubt about that. 542 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: But I also, I mean, if they would have said, 543 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: here's this horrible, this kind of variation and we're not 544 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: going to do any kind of travel change or anything 545 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: like that, I think that there would have been a 546 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: different kind of backlash and stuff like that. Now I 547 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: think this is going to get righted. But again, I 548 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: think that the most important point to remember here is 549 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: that the virus itself was completely unexpected. Completely We're just 550 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: we're never prepared for that. But is it is it 551 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: so unexpected when we the delta variant quickly took over 552 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 1: the og COVID variant, right Like I mean, I'm saying 553 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: the amount of mutations is unexpected, but it mutating is 554 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 1: not unexpected because it happened damn near ten months after 555 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: it was discovered. Well, no, there's no doubt that. I mean, 556 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: this kind of mutation. I mean, somebody think was always 557 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: going to compete with Delta. There's no doubt, and we 558 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: knew that, and and we should have certainly been while 559 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we got a lot of problems here, um, 560 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: but certainly getting I'm saying. I'm just saying, like the 561 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: fact that I mean, I wish that we would have 562 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: vaccinated the entire world. I wish that we would have 563 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: vaccinated everywhere, But also I don't know, we got a 564 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: lot of problems and so we're not the most functional 565 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: group right now, and so it's just everything's pretty dysfunctional. 566 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: So um. But the other thing is, even if you 567 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: would have vaccinated half of Africa and there still would 568 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 1: have been this vaccine, this variant, excuse me, I still 569 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: think it would have been a holy shit moment for 570 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: the world because the world looked under that microscope and 571 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: saw these kind of variations and that it was just 572 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, mutation was expected. Yes, mutation from Africa 573 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: was terrified and feared, and people were warning about it. Yes, 574 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: the possibility of a mutation coming either from an animal 575 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 1: source or an immunocompromised person was so all these things 576 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: were things people were talking about. But then to have 577 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: this level of mutation, and I guess the reason it's 578 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: scary because no one knows what it means. Either it 579 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: could mean, and no big deal thing, or it could 580 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: mean an extinction event, like nobody really knows what this 581 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 1: kind of various because we've never seen a virus mutate 582 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: this way and so and so. Part of the issue 583 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: is I'm sure very well trained scientists acted like racist 584 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: third graders. That's probably what happened for at and because 585 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: I just want to go back to that point, because again, 586 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: when this was identified, it was simultaneously identified having already 587 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: made it to Belgium, to the Netherlands, you know, two 588 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: other places at the same time that it was discovered 589 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: in South Africa. And I think that what I'm what 590 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: worries me is that we are don't seem to be 591 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: actively learning from our past transgressions, meaning that travel bands 592 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: don't work. You cannot ban the virus. You can create 593 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: quarantine mitigations for people that are coming from outside of 594 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: the country, you can create vaccine mandates for airlines. You 595 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: can do those things that make sense. But putting up 596 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: a travel ban and then saying that, oh, but foreign 597 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: nationals can't come into the United States, but if you're 598 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: a United States citizen or permanent resident you can come in. 599 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: It's like, what are you doing, right? It's just it 600 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: once again, it feels to me like politics making the 601 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: you know, making the coin tosses and not and not 602 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 1: health and science. Am I wrong? Well? I think you're wrong. 603 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: I mean I do. I mean, I'm sure personally, I'm 604 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: sure you're personally right. I'm sure you're personally right. I 605 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 1: do think you're partially right in terms of if this 606 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: would have come from Amsterdam, if this would have come 607 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,919 Speaker 1: from you know, the Playboy mansion in California, where wherever 608 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: it is, where they have isolated. But I will say so, 609 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: certainly the fact that it was coming from Africa led 610 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: to a ban on all of Africa. Certainly that is 611 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: something that it was not right. Absolutely, But I would 612 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: say that the two things I would push back about 613 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: our Number one, if you're a public health expert, how 614 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: are you trained. You're trained to isolate the source of 615 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 1: the outbreak? Right, That's how public health has been trained 616 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 1: for centuries, Right, typhoid Mary, shut down that neighborhood or 617 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: color outbreak, you know, shut down the neighbors. Let's isolate it, 618 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: let's figure out how to treat it. But let's also 619 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: not let people out of where the thing is. And 620 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: that's every contagion movie you know that, remember that one 621 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: with Outbreak. I literally put it on the other day. 622 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: I don't know why, and then I shut it off 623 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: within like ten minutes. I was like, I'm not watching. Well, 624 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: the thing is like they had it much better than 625 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: we do. We gotta way worse than World War Z. 626 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: We've I mean word rosibate that half the people would 627 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 1: want to be zobvious. You know that that wasn't part 628 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 1: of the spect I'm saying, when you're a public health expert, 629 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: you're trained to isolate and then figure out a strategy, 630 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 1: and so I think they went into unconscious public health 631 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: mode with about a lot of implicit bias. I'm not 632 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 1: denying that, but I would say that right now. It's 633 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: also like the wrong impulse, right because virus is a 634 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 1: global problem, which I think we're realizing, Um, did it 635 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: slow the spread? Well, I don't think the US has 636 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: a pot to piss in. But I would say, let's say, 637 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: live in Israel where they totally shut down everybody coming in. 638 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: They now, I mean, they're gonna everybody's going to get 639 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: hit with this, but they have you know, if Israel 640 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: would have kept their borders open, a smaller country where 641 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: they can control the borders, that kind of stuff. So 642 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just saying I think public health 643 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: experts acted like public health experts. And also there's this 644 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 1: history we didn't learn from and hopefully this turns out 645 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: to be a bunch of hype and if not, then 646 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: were totally fucked. Those are my that's my son. I mean, 647 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: you know, I the last thing that I will say 648 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: on this is, you know, doctor Fauci announced, you know 649 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: that there were fifty different mutations right that they are 650 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: seeing that we will not know for probably two to 651 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: four weeks what this actually means, And I think that 652 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: that is terrifying, right, And I get the fact that 653 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: you want to create policy or find a way to 654 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: alleviate the fear that has spread that is spreading all 655 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: over you know, all over Wall Street. That's the fear 656 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: that's you know, spreading around the country right now. Where 657 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: people were anticipating being able to go back to normal 658 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: at the beginning of twenty twenty two, and now there's 659 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: a whole new fucking variant that no one knows what 660 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: it can do, what it will do, if it's worse, 661 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: if it's faster and transmission, or what have you. But 662 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: I feel like we can't ignore and just kind of 663 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: shrug our shoulders at one of the guiding principles that 664 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: led to, you know, all of these countries being colonized, 665 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: which is white supremacy. And the fact is is that 666 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: India and South Africa asked for a waiver to be 667 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: able to create their own vaccines that they could manufacture 668 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: in country. And because the Madernas and the Fisers and 669 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: the Johnson and Johnson's and wherever the countries that they 670 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,439 Speaker 1: are headquartered in want to rake in billions, they said, yeah, 671 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: maybe we'll take that up at a later time. And 672 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: so I just can't be lost on us that these 673 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: lower income countries are going to pay the brunt of 674 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: the purposeful negligence that I see by higher income countries, 675 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: and then the admonishment of them as if they're the problem, 676 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: when it's really the high the high wealth nations, largely 677 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: white nations, that are to blame. Well, again, all those 678 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: things are true. I don't know if they're all roomated though. 679 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: In other words, I mean, I don't know, we don't 680 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: know yet. So we could have everybody in Africa could 681 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: have been vaccinated, and we still could have had this variant. 682 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,760 Speaker 1: The vaccines may or may not be protective against this variant, 683 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: in which case we're starting over. In which case, um, 684 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 1: In which case you know, I don't even want I 685 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 1: don't I don't even know. I don't want to say. 686 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: I want to say nothing. In your which case, I 687 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: like the part of my brain that like is fighter, 688 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: like literally just shut off. In which case I just 689 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: I mean certain, yeah, I mean, absolutely we need to 690 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 1: vaccinate the world. Absolutely need a vaccine that works to 691 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: vaccinate the world. Absolutely we screwed up before. But I 692 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: don't know the connection between all those things. I don't know. 693 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, and so so you know, it's we're 694 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: going to be you know, I mean maybe this thing 695 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: will be nothing. I mean, I'm I'm waiting, Like, where's 696 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: the like pleasure variant? You know, there is not. There 697 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: is not. It's called that's the fucking like it's called 698 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: alcohol mut mutate in a way that like makes you giggling. No, 699 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 1: you have like three orgasms or something like that. Like, 700 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 1: I you know, I want a pleasure variant. Every variant 701 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: is so bad, Like let's make friends with the this 702 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,320 Speaker 1: is uh, there is nothing about the last two years. 703 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: That is leading me to believe that this one is 704 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: going to be you know what, that's the good one. 705 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: We are moving We are moving down, chomping at the 706 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: Greek alphabet right now, and something tells me that when 707 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: we get to the end, it's not going to be 708 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: a pot of fucking gold. Uh. Maybe we'll end up 709 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: with like sneezy or droopy or one of the I 710 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 1: don't know, like Nope. As always, doctor Jack and Metzel, 711 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: thank you for making time to join us on woke 712 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: F and walk us through how we are all inevitably 713 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: going to be dying of whiteness. Appreciate you well and 714 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: the other The other thing I want to say is 715 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: if this ship gets really bad, I still have a 716 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: bunch of Formula forty nine and toilet paper from the 717 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: last one. You should not announce that good people as 718 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: sitting outside of your Brooklyn apartment waiting upon your return. 719 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: I'd come on over take care. That is it for 720 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 1: me today on woke F Daily, as always, Power to 721 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: the people and to all the people. Power, get woke 722 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,479 Speaker 1: and stay woke as fuck.