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All right, guys, 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: major celebrity book events which you know we're on the 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: pulse of book events on this show. Naperville Anderson's Bookshop, 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: Bobby Brown, the Bobby Brown, the world famous Bobby Brown. 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: Bobby do you know that you and Steve Jobs are 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: the same person? Basically? Do you know that I do 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: like wearing a wardrobe? Oh Yo, that's the thing. If 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: you just were all black all the time? How easy 18 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: with that me? Don't you know what are you weren't 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: on the cover of this book. I don't have any 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: front of me. You weren't basically all black? 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: Maybe then I know, maybe I kind of softened my 22 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: black to maybe it's much more flattering. 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: Okay, that's good to know. See Bobby Brown already giving 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: me advice. And I gotta say I used to I 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: used to be a Bobby Brown Cosmetics guy, but then 26 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: you sold it. And the comparison to Steve Jobs is 27 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: then they fired you from your own company. So now 28 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: you know me Jones Road all day. That's the only 29 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: thing I wear. How you get fired from your own company. 30 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: I know it's in the book, but. 31 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 2: How it is definitely in the book, and it was 32 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: a definite. First of all, when they bought Bobby Brown, 33 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: I stayed twenty two years as an employee. So for 34 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: many of the years it was great, and then at 35 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: the end it wasn't just like you know, many people's situation, 36 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: and we did not see. 37 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: Eye to eye on most things. 38 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: And they canceled my work contract one day unexpectedly, and 39 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: you know, honestly gave me an opportunity to stay around 40 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: but keep my mouth shut, and that really didn't work 41 00:01:58,720 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: for me. 42 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tikiki, I know you, you know you, Paulina. We 43 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: have some women in here, you know, business moguls in 44 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: Chicago and surrounding. You got to watch out. You can 45 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: get fired from your own named business. This is not 46 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: a good thing, listen, how you know? 47 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it wasn't my business. 48 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: They bought me, so you know, they own they owned 49 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: the company, and they could do whatever they want. And honestly, 50 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: I'm not the only one that's been through things that happen. 51 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: But the book really talks about what you do with 52 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: this stuff when it's handed to you, Like, so what now? 53 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: What? 54 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: All? 55 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: Right? 56 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: Now? What am I going to do? 57 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: I had four and a half years left on a 58 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: noncompete when I left, and I'm like, oh my god, 59 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: I was fifty nine years old. 60 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: What was I going to do? 61 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: You were going to be rich, Bobby, is what you 62 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: were going to do? But that you know, I understand what. 63 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: You mean, you know, But it's honestly, yeah, I've been 64 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: very successful. I've worked really hard for it. I've had 65 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: people on my team, my husband, you know, now my 66 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: son runs our company. But you know, when you're someone 67 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: that has worked your whole life in addition to raising 68 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: three kids and you know, a long term marriage, it's like, 69 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: now what do I do? 70 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: Like I wasn't about to go play pick a. 71 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 2: Ball, right, that's just not me right, right, So I 72 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: had to figure stuff out. 73 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: And you've done so much Bobby Brown Cosmetics. Of course, 74 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: you've been recognized by every major publication. Then you've gone 75 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: on to build another huge company, Jones Road, and you've 76 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: written nine books. This is the tenth. Will be at 77 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: Anderson's Bookshop in Ahborville tonight from seven to eight. But yes, 78 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: we do have a lot of women who listen to 79 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: the show in business, A couple in the room. What 80 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: would be and I know it's probably hard to narrow 81 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: it down, what would be a main sort of piece 82 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: of advice that you would give to really anybody, but 83 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: maybe especially a woman who's, you know, building a brand 84 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: and trying to start a business. 85 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: Well, first of. 86 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: All, your life is more important than your work. Your 87 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: health is the most important thing. If you don't feel 88 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: good and you don't eat right, and you don't exercise, 89 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: how are you going to have the stamina to do 90 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: all the things that. 91 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: Needs to get done. 92 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: Because you can't ignore anything, you have to kind of 93 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: be over all of it. And for women particularly, I 94 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: really do believe women we are the ultimate multitaskers, so 95 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: we can do all these things if we're creative and 96 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: organized and just figure stuff out. 97 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: I had to do it kind of on the run, 98 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: and so I've added. 99 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: A whole bunch of hacks in my book for working moms, 100 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: like how you get how you do this, and mostly 101 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: like the real story about it's not all perfect. Sometimes 102 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 2: it's a big old mess and you just got to 103 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 2: get on with it. 104 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: That's great advice. What is the worst advice anyone has 105 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: ever given you in all the different ventures that you've 106 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: been involved with. 107 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 3: No one wants to take advice from a soccer mom. 108 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: I've had so many like dumb advices. Someone once told 109 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: me that I was very demure. I'm five foot tall, 110 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: and I need something so people notice me when I 111 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 2: walk in a room. 112 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: Perhaps I get a hat with a feather in it. 113 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 3: Like great advice, great advice. Yeah, can you imagine me 114 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 3: walking into a hat and a feather, you know? 115 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: So, yeah, some sort of signature. And that was. 116 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: Huh, you do you do? 117 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: But you know what, I didn't come to this, you know, 118 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: confidence when I was young. I mean, it really took 119 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: me a long time to realize. You know, guys, I 120 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: don't need to be what you are telling me to be. 121 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: I just need to be myself and that's really, you know, 122 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: the secret to being confident. So I do tell all 123 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: these all these stories in the book that somehow you 124 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: know I still remember, thank goodness, because there's a. 125 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 3: Lot of them. 126 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Bobby Brown, It's still Bobby. That's the book tonight. 127 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: Naperville Anderson's bookshelp. You'll be there from seven to eight. 128 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: And we also have a lot of young women who 129 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: listen to us. What would you tell yourself all these 130 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: years ago before you started down this road. 131 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: To learn how to chill? 132 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: I have not done that, by the way, That's the 133 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: thing I'm most unsuccessful. 134 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 3: How to chill and. 135 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: How to you know, like lower my cortisol and you know, 136 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 2: calm down. It doesn't mean I can't do everything I 137 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: want to do. 138 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: So that's my biggest advice. 139 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: And just to honestly just know there are so many 140 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: possibilities out there and you could really like create your 141 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: own story. You just have to be comfortable that you 142 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: know that you're able to do this, and also you 143 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: don't know everything. 144 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: Be a sponge and learn. I'm still learning. 145 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: I learned so much in the last five minutes. It's 146 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: and I don't mean to say, but navy being more 147 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: flattering than black is the main takeaway. 148 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: And then I get to wear blue jeans, and then you. 149 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: Get to wear blue jeans all the time, and I 150 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: don't have to spend money dry cleaning my black pants. 151 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: So you know this is I'm going to go read 152 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: the book. I'm sure I'm going to be inspired. But 153 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: this changed things for me right now because I thought 154 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: black was the way to get away with it. But 155 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: night now Bobby Brown's telling me it's navy, So navy 156 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: it is. 157 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you could do navy and black if you're 158 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: not quite all navy yet. 159 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's a little That's what Mett's getting 160 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: risky for me because I'm not. But go see Bobby 161 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: Brown tonight. Buy everyone, buy the book wherever you are, 162 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: but then Anderson's Bookshop in Aprilville from seven to eight. 163 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: You'll be there.