1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: You're listening to Waiting on reparations production of my heart 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: radio check it. Yo, every time I think of Dila, 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: make me think of my pops. So I'm sitting here 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: with the slicker. Take a sip of the scotch. Yeah, 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: it always kind of things. Never see since of stops. 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: So I'm clutching both of the legacies. Don't think I 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: forgot now. These politicians want to kill your welfare check. 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: The cops come, you get killed on the welfare check? 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Kind of tied? Do I really need some healthcare? Yes? 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: Fucking whack. I'm sitting right in healthy is stress. What's 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: the trend? I got my own ship dog. I've always 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: been the Loana dealers and the my Condolas with a 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: pendless and the donuts with a bird. And I'm cracking jokes, 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: punch lines, packing dope. I trined Jack and Coke, becausing 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: like a mac and Roth. Even though I'm stone, still 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: controlling the flow, best rapping that you know that nobody knows. 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Don't play with me unsavory, especially when I don't get 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: my reparations for that one slavery dope, dope, dope, dope, Hey, 19 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: what's up? What's up this is dope, knife franca and 20 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: we are waiting on recretion. So how you doing? Could ask? 21 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm good, tired, you know, long commission meeting. Life, Life 22 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: is just long snow running. What was the commission meeting 23 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: about tonight? Oh? You know, just a horrible housing stuff? 24 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: Um um, there's something like big that you're working on 25 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: right now, isn't there. Yeah, I mean I've been working 26 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: on the negotiations with these developers to try to get 27 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: some horrible housing in this gigantic complex that they have 28 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: proposed for my district, and so trying to use the 29 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: opportunity's leverage to get stuff for working folks. And it passed. 30 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: It passed this evening, So it's gonna be sixty six 31 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: apartments were just like working class people at minimum potentially 32 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: dred twenty if the local government decides to like shell 33 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: in a little bit, which, like, you know, do you 34 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: think they will? Yeah? I think so. I mean it's 35 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: pending like a community approval. Do we have these advisory 36 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: boards that are signed off on use of these special funds? 37 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: And so I think people will be like hell, yeah, 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean more places for like working class people to live. Sure, 39 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 1: you know, let's do it. So it should be. I mean, 40 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: like it's just funny because like working within the system 41 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: just sucks so bad that like when you even when 42 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: you win, it just feels growth. Like I would prefer 43 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: it would so much prefer to just like seize all 44 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: the people as homes and put people in them like 45 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: like a dictator, you know, and just like, uh, we 46 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: gotta just work within the capitalism, so and think what 47 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: I gotta do, But yeah, what you gotta going. I'm 48 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: in the or racking process of putting out music independently, 49 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: so I feel like I'm about to have a panic attack. 50 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: Yeah again, shameless promotion. I'm dropping a new song tomorrow 51 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: because you guys listened to this on Thursday, right, Yeah, 52 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: so I'm dropping a new song tomorrow. It's tedious, you know, 53 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: write my own press releases and sending out dozens and 54 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: dozens of emails and ship and you know, it's it's 55 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: one of those things you got you gotta go through, 56 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: but it's all worth it in the end, after you 57 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: put the music out. I did stumble across this article 58 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: that I did want to run past you, even though 59 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: it's not about what we're talking about today, Because today 60 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: we are talking about legendary hip hop producer J Dilla. Yeah, 61 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: J Dilla's anniversary or it was a fifteen the anniversary 62 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: of Donuts on Sunday? Um, and was it? Yeah? No, 63 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm confused. Okay, it was a few days ago, a 64 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: couple of days ago. Yeah, everybody was posting their diala stuff. 65 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: You know, I get confused. I get I'm confused because 66 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: Sunday was the fifteenth anniversary of Donuts. Sunday was also 67 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: my mom's birthday. It's not going to maxed up because 68 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: Dila's birthday, No, that it is correct. Yeah, so my 69 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: mom and Jay Dilla have the same birthday. Yeah, they 70 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: have the same birthday. And they also you know, suffered 71 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: from the same chronic illness lupus, and so like, you know, 72 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: this was like, Paul, I'm seeing a lot of people's 73 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: reflections on Ja Della this week. I was like, und 74 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: touch because they have a similar struggle, similar birthday, the 75 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: exact same birthday, and so I was excited to talk 76 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: about him as we both his musical legacy and like 77 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: some of his struggles. For the listeners who don't know, um, Donuts, 78 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,239 Speaker 1: when we say that Donuts is like the seminal last 79 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: album of Jay Dilla, So we're gonna be delving into that, 80 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: some of j Delah's life, some of his music, and 81 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: also you know, talking about how his struggles with America's 82 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: health care system relate to what's going on today, right, yeah, 83 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: still are still impacting his family, despite you know, that's 84 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago. So well, before we get into that, 85 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you about this article that I 86 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: just just read, right, So it's um, it's about that 87 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: movie Judas and the Black Messiah. Have you heard of it, 88 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: the one the Fred Hampton one. I heard, you know, 89 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: they stripped Fred Hampton's politics out of the film. That's 90 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: what I was just about to mention. I didn't see it, though, 91 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: so I read an article about how No Name didn't 92 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: want to be on the soundtrack because of that that 93 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: very issue. I wanted to know what your thoughts were 94 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: about that, because that's great, I mean, at the same time, 95 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: it's sort of like fucked up that folks. Bred Hampton 96 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: would have definitely hated or on the soundtrack instead, like 97 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: it would have been lit if like you know, he's 98 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: like all right, you know, like let's say they brought 99 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: him back from the dead. They're like, all right, we're 100 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: gonna make a movie about you. He's like okay, and 101 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: but but we're not gonna put your politics in it. Well, 102 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna have like a modern day black revolutionary and 103 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: like communist beyond the soundtrack, it might be like, oh okay, 104 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: you know, like cut of down, but that it's like, 105 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna take your politics out of the film, and 106 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a bunch of like black capitalist neo 107 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: liberals like on the soundtrack, Like that's just a couple 108 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: of sorts in the back. Oh No, I think it's 109 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: a bit overblown. I mean, there's there's nothing that I've 110 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: seen in any of the previews or any clips or 111 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: even just like the title of the movie, there's nothing 112 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: I've seen that suggests that this was supposed to be 113 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: about Fred Hampton. I mean, it seems like it's about 114 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: the informant guy. It seems like it's about a whole 115 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: other dude. I mean, the movie is called Judas and 116 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: the Black Messiah, not the life and philosophy of Fred Hampton. 117 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. It seems like he's a character in it, 118 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: but not the main character. So I don't know to 119 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: frame it like they stripped him of his politics in 120 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: the movie when that's not even necessarily the point of 121 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: the movie. Althought. You know, I haven't seen it, so 122 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: I gotta wait till I see it first. Yeah, I 123 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: don't think that's what it's about. And perhaps we'll talk 124 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: about it talk next week or something. Right, do you 125 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: remember that movie with Brad Pitt, the assassination of Jesse 126 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: James by the coward Robert Ford. I mean, yeah, vaal, yeah, 127 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: it's like, if you're with you hear the title of 128 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: the movie, it's got like another dude's name of the 129 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: title in the movies about him. So somebody went and 130 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: saw it and they're like, man, this is fucked up. 131 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: How this movie wasn't about Jesse James. Like, yo, it's 132 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: not about Jesse James. I don't know, Like this is 133 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: like in the film, like it looks like and somehow 134 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't only get into at all, like the shitty 135 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: is about It's not unprecedented. There was a movie with 136 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: Don Cheetle playing Miles Davis that it wasn't a biopic 137 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: at all. It's like a private investigator detective thriller with 138 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: Miles Davis in it. I mean, it all depends on 139 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: the way the movies made. If they're trying to make 140 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: Malcolm X style of movie but they stripped fred Hampton 141 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: involves politics, then yeah that's fishy. But it seems like 142 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: they're trying to make Deep Cover but set in the 143 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: backdrop of what fred Hampton was doing. So I don't 144 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, so many questions. 145 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: I guess I gotta see the film. Yeah, yeah, does 146 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: look it does look cool though, like and she did 147 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: give it props. I'm saying that the cinematography is also 148 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: acting is dope. So you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 149 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: Well took that out next week and weren talk to 150 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: something about it. All right, We're gonna get into this 151 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: J dillas stuff after the job. Sunday mark the fifteenth 152 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: anniversary of Jay Diller's second studio album, an inaugural masterpiece, Donuts. 153 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: It was released on his thirty second birthday, three days 154 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: before his death after years long struggle with blood disease 155 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: and lupus. So this week we're going to look back 156 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: on the iconic album and its impact on hip hop 157 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: culture and discuss J dilla's medical struggles leading up to 158 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: his premature death. What they tell us about the health 159 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: care system in the United States, And that's the thing 160 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: I mentioned a little bit um like at the top. 161 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: You know, Sunday is also my mom's birthday. She is 162 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: recovering from having COVID, which was a terrifying or deal 163 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: for our family because she also suffers like from lupa's 164 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: like Jay Diller did, and complications to los it from 165 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: u comprelations of lupus have caused have severe long problem. 166 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: She's like on a breathing machine most of the time. 167 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: So we we're fucking like that. We're all like, oh, shoot, 168 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: mom is dead. I mean she's she's like better, but 169 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: like the remains to be seen the the long the 170 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: long lasting impacts of her having had COVID until well 171 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: see what happens with it. But I'm glad she's doing okay. 172 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: But the coincidence of their shared birthday and their struggle 173 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: and what health care access means for people like her 174 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: and you know, people in the United States and people 175 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: within the hip hop culture make this episode a special 176 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: one for me personally. It's so very excited to talk 177 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, J Dilla's death kind of hits close 178 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: to home too. When he around when he died is 179 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: around when my father started getting sick. So my dad 180 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: passed away two years after Dillah did. And I just 181 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: have this real vivid memory of me and a bunch 182 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: of my you know, hip hop rapped friends, and we 183 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: were watching something. It was like a live show. I 184 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: want to say. I want to say it was like 185 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: rock the Bells or something like that, but I don't 186 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: want to say the wrong thing, so I'll strike that. 187 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: But we were watching some tape of like a live 188 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: performance and Dila came out at the end. It might 189 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: have been like Slum Village playing or something like that, 190 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: but Dila came out at the end to do like 191 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: a you know, surprise versus. The crowd went crazy and everything. 192 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: And it was around when I first started getting into Dila, 193 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: So I didn't even really know what Dila looked like 194 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: like that. I just knew him for like, you know, 195 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: as credits on a on an album liner in the beats. 196 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: So I saw him and I'm like, oh, it's dope. 197 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: And all of my friends were like shocked because they're like, man, 198 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: he looks really skinny, you know, And I just I'll 199 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: never forget, like how like all shocked they were to 200 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: see him looking different than they, you know, had seen 201 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: him before. And then it was like shortly after that 202 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: I had went home after not being there for a while, 203 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: when my dad's already getting sick, and when I saw 204 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: my dad again, he was in the same sort of 205 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: skinny state because he he was like a really big, 206 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, big guy, and I saw him and he 207 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: was he was small, and and just that that connection 208 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: of like jay Dilla passing and how sad that made everybody, 209 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: and then me discovering his music a bit later and 210 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: not really getting the chance to really like dig into 211 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: it while it was happening in the correlation with like 212 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: my dad when he started getting sick. That's just that's 213 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: just oh way, It's hard for me to even hear 214 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: Dillah without thinking about my father instantly. So this episode 215 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: definitely hits close to home too. Oh man, are we am? 216 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: I gonna cry? Are you gonna cry? We're gonna be okay, 217 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: But let's go ahead and get into the album right 218 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: um so. On Metacritic, Donuts received universal acclaim from critics, 219 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: based on an aggregate score of eighty four out of 220 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: our hundred from game reviews. Pitchfork put the album at 221 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: number thirty eight on their list of top fifty albums 222 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: with two six and number sixty six on their list 223 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: of top two hundred albums. From the two thousand's Rolling 224 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: Stone write the album six out of their greatest albums 225 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: of all time now. Structurally Donuts is a thirty one 226 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: track instrumental hip hop album. The only lyrics are the 227 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: short phrases and samples that are snagged from other records. 228 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: Most of the songs are quite short um as far 229 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: as like. The length goes about a minute minute and 230 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: a half for each one, and they vary in style 231 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: and tone. The album's original press release compared its sound 232 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: to scanning radio stations for in an unfamiliar city. The 233 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: track order is also kind of unusual, so the album 234 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: begins with an outro and then ends with the intro, 235 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: and then the ending of the final track flows right 236 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: into the beginning of the first one, forming Some might say, uh, 237 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: the circular shape of a doughnuts infinite loop if you 238 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: would yo when that ship came out. I mean I 239 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: have wrapped over those beats so many times because we 240 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: just used to have that on like an infinite loop. 241 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: And just like you know, just get a little quick 242 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: little sessions in all the time, Like whenever before we 243 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: would go out, heads would spin it, you know, caps 244 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: would be smoking and freestyle and over that ship. And 245 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: then eventually once like the hip hop Nights and stuff 246 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: all over the country started getting that into their rotation. 247 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: When dudes would go cipher, you know, they would always 248 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: be spinning Doughnuts stuff. So I feel like I've wrapped 249 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: like four albums over those beats at this point. I 250 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: will always think like Doughnuts is well always when we 251 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: think of like sneaking and watching like Adult Swim as 252 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: like a child, Like I was pretty young in like 253 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: two thousand six or whatever. Yeah, I guess it wasn't 254 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:04,479 Speaker 1: like a child per se, but like were you in six, um, 255 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: I was fifty fifteen and two done? Yeah, But like 256 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: so like watching like Adult Swim late at night and 257 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: like just like them, like the kind of hip hop 258 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: like they would play. It's like the bumper music during 259 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: like the Adult Swim programming block. Like I didn't learn 260 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: until later that they had a partnership with Stone Star Records, UM, 261 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: and like actually like collaborated on having a lot of 262 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: Stone Stow artists like make the music for like that 263 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: time of night on Cartoon Network, but like like waking 264 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: up like bleary eyed in the night and what is 265 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: like you know this sounds cool, but then like kind 266 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: of just having this ambiance in the background of of 267 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: ship of like ship like Jay Della, and it wasn't 268 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: until like an adult and it's this is true of 269 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: me with a lot of well, I feel like I'm 270 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: a latecomer to a lot of like of hip hop 271 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: up his era, just because like I was like a 272 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: weird age to like access it when it came out, 273 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: um like as an adult like sort of purposefully, like 274 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: in the way that like you go to like a 275 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: dojo and like learn all of the fucking moves from 276 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: the sense like going back through the discographies of artists 277 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: like Della to like learn about you are, like our 278 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: history as a people, to gain like a like a 279 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: conscious sense of what like this music means and is, 280 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: um And so I'm just like deeply appreciative now. Whereas 281 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: as a younger person, um he like I kind of 282 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: remember like having it on in the background or like 283 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: hearing snippets here and there and were like let's nope, 284 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: I don't have to come back to that. I'm gonna 285 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: have to cycle back to that one. And just to 286 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: give some of our listeners who aren't familiar with J 287 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: Dilla a little bit more context, Just to give you 288 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: a sense of some of the artists that J. Dillah 289 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: has worked on. I'll try to say something that are 290 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: pretty popular. We've got a tribe called Quests Far Side. 291 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: He's made Beats for Day Last, soul Buster Rhymes, Keith Murray, 292 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: Um Mad Skills. He's known for working heavily with Slum Village, 293 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: which has els I in it and els Eyes. One 294 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: of the greatest um he's worked at. Janet Jackson, Ericapat 295 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: do Q, Tipped the Roots. The list goes on. Dealer 296 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: realized there was something not quite right with his health 297 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: back in early two thousand two, fresh home from Europe 298 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: but sick to the stomach. When feverish, he thought he 299 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 1: might have a bad flu, but his mother took him 300 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: to an emergency room in suburban Gross Point, Michigan, and 301 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: his blood plate lit AC count should have been above 302 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: one fifty, but it was below ten. Doctors told his 303 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: mother they were surprised he was still walking around, and 304 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: so J d was diagnosed with drombotic romocytopenic purpora tt 305 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: P and incurable disease of the blood that results in 306 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: low plately count, low red blood cell count, and often kidney, 307 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: heart and brain. This function this is what it was 308 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: also battling lupus, but she had been diagnosed with the 309 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: previous year. J Dill's illness and medication caused dramatic weight 310 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: loss in two thousand three onwards, forcing him to publicly 311 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: confirm speculation about his health. In two thousand four, two 312 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: five Data underwent treatment at Cedars Sinai Medical Centator for 313 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: complications brought on by a c TTP and lupus. Put 314 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: tracks from donuts recorded in the hospital during this time 315 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: using a Boss SP three or three sampler and a 316 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: small forty five record player that his friends by him. 317 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: That's fucking amazing, Yeah, because like I can't even like 318 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: it's so easy for me to get taken out of 319 00:18:54,920 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: my artistic zone, you know, I know, like, oh my 320 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: could be mood not today, Like I could be like 321 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: typing some ship, you know, and like type like four 322 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: lines and then forget to save it and those lines 323 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: go away. It's like, oh yeah, I wasn't supposed to 324 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: write today, I'm just gonna drop this, you know what 325 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean. I can get in a bad mood and 326 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: not feel like being creative, So that's I mean, I'm 327 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: not even sure if that's dedication. That sounds like it's 328 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: just like a natural extension of his body, you know 329 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like, Yo, I'm in the hospital, son, 330 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: break my MPC. I mean, I wonder if like a 331 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: sense of his own mortality pushed him to like bring 332 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: the most you know, artistry he could out of what 333 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: must have known We're going to be some of his 334 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: last days. Yeah, I wonder. Yeah. So. Jay Diller's mother, 335 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: Maureen Yancy, herself a former opera singer, spoke of watching 336 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: her son's daily routine during the creation of Donuts and Two. 337 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: In a two thousand and six issue of Fader. She 338 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: recounts him being in the hospital trying to go over 339 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: each beat and make sure that it was something different, 340 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: make sure that there was nothing he wanted to change. 341 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: She said, I got a glimpse of the music during 342 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: one of the one of the hospital stays around his 343 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: thirty first birthday, when friend and producer House Shoes came 344 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: out from Detroit to visit him. She told The Fader, 345 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: I would sneak in and listen to the work in 346 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: progress while he was in dialysis. He got furious when 347 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: he found out I was listening to his music. He 348 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: didn't want me to listen to anything until it wasn't 349 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: finished product. I know that feeling. Throughout the Throughout the year, 350 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: his medical condition worsened. His legs started to swell up, 351 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: making it difficult for him to walk, so at times 352 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: he'd wake up his mother in the middle of the 353 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: night and ask her to move him from his bed 354 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: to his instruments. At times, his hands swelled up so 355 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: much he could barely move them. As well, his mother 356 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: would massage them smooth the pain so he can continue 357 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 1: working on his album. According to Kelly el Carter at 358 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: Detroit of the Detroit Free Press, J Dilla told his 359 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: doctor he was proud of the work and that all 360 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: he wanted to do was finish that album. And he 361 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: did finish it um three days before he died of 362 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: cardiac ars and his death dealt a heavy blow to 363 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: the hip hop community, especially Detroit's hip hop community. But sadly, 364 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: you know, though, I remember I think his mother was 365 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: quoted as saying she was so glad that he wasn't 366 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: suffering any more the troubles in there for Della's family, unfortunately. 367 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: In an interview with The l A Weekly, Arthur Urk, 368 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: the executor at Dilla's estate, described how difficult it was 369 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: for the estate to protect his legacy due to bootlegs 370 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: and unofficial mix tapes. Dilah's just kind of gave out 371 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: CDs of his works to rappers to wrap over them 372 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And that's actually like like a 373 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: known story, like Dillo would make these Dila beat tapes, 374 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: and I mean, if you if you watch certain interviews 375 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: with certain rappers, like everybody had a fucking dilabeat tape. 376 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: And I think they were like all different too, but 377 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: just everybody had these beats and they were just like 378 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm not even necessarily sure if they would pass him around, 379 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: because I'm pretty sure they would respect like the craft. 380 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: But there was just a lot of them around there 381 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: because Dillah was so prolific and he worked with so 382 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: many heads that there were so many of these beat 383 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: tapes around. Yeah, so his beats were just kind of everywhere, 384 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: and it was hard to get money out of people 385 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: for their use or expressed the importance for the estate 386 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: to gather all possible income related to Dala's name. Since 387 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: between the taxes, video, the i R s, and being 388 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: uninsured in the hospital, dealer racked up six figures in 389 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: depths toward the end of his life. And I mean, 390 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: this isn't surprising really, given that the United States has 391 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: the highest overall healthcare costs in the developed world. As 392 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: an example, one year is of one year of Dela's 393 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: dialysis probably costs between fifty three or seventy thousand dollars, 394 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: and that was just from one part of this treatment. 395 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: Imagine how much it must have cost for him to 396 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: be in the hospital for months and months at a time. 397 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: About a hundred and thirty seven million Americans struggle with 398 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: medical debt. In two thousand nineteen, to study down that 399 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,719 Speaker 1: sixty six point five percent of all personal bankruptcies are 400 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: tied to medical issues. About a third of the money 401 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: raised on go fund me in seventeen was for medical expenses. Ensure. 402 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: You know, the Affordable Care Act had been passed since 403 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: Dilla's death, but it still leaves so many millions of 404 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: people uninsured and so many others left out in the 405 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: cold by the barriers of bureaucracy. Um. You know, just 406 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: trying to navigate the marketplace and figure out how to 407 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: get health insurance isn't enough for some people to just 408 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: say fuck it, I will take my chances. Particularly, you know, 409 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: young people that don't think. You know, young people of 410 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: Villa's age are younger that start off life thinking that 411 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: they're invincible. They're gonna be fine. But then, on top 412 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: of that, since two thousand eight, health insurance adoptables have 413 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: increased eight times quickly as wages, So the situation isn't 414 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: really improving. Over the past year of Americans say they've 415 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: steered clear some sort of medical care, including doctor visits, 416 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: medications and nations, annual exams, screenings, vision checks, and even 417 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: routine blood work because of the expense. So a blurry 418 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: eye goes blind. Blood sugar roller coaster, A blood sugar 419 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: roller coaster gives way to amputation and fatigue you think 420 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: is a bad cold to actually lupus and if untreated, 421 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: will kill you. Um. With the way the system works, 422 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: even if you're fortunate enough to have insurance, it can 423 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: still be difficult to understand what you're being built for 424 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: and how much you really owe, so you can have insurance, 425 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: but even then be too scared of surprise bills co 426 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: pays or deductibles and to actually use it even if 427 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: you do have the money for it. Yeah, Like I 428 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: have insurance through my job, but i only use it 429 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: for like therapy, because I'm like, it's just so distrust 430 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: doctors showing up for an appointment and my co pays this, 431 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: but actually my deductible is this, But actually I get 432 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: a bill six weeks later saying I owe them that. Like, 433 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: I just rather just take my chances and maybe die 434 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: than deal with this bullshit sometimes should. I sprained my 435 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: wrists like a while back and ended up going to 436 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: the doctor and literally just saw the doctor for fifteen minutes. 437 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: He told me that it was a gangly insist that 438 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: it might go away on its own or I get 439 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: it drained or whatever. I was like, okay, words, so 440 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: I could go and think about it. Left, and they 441 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: ended up hitting me with a bill for a lot, 442 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: just a lot more more than a visit warranted that 443 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: I know, all you need, all you need, this had 444 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,959 Speaker 1: to happen once, and you know, just terrified I've ever 445 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: going to doctor again. And then you start to get 446 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: sit like, oh, my back's hurt, and I don't know 447 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: what that's about, but like I don't want to get 448 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: billed to g again. Yeah, exactly out of the cries 449 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: you have, like spinal cancer or something terrible that you 450 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: could have survived, but you didn't get checked out the doctor. 451 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: So it doesn't have to be like this. And I 452 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: think it's interesting to take a look briefly at how 453 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: the number one healthcare system in the world works just 454 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: a few thousand miles or north in good old Canada. 455 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,239 Speaker 1: A you know, I used to live in Toronto? Did 456 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: he really? I don't know, of course you did. I 457 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: assume you lived everywhere, so like a surprised for a second, 458 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: and then I was like, oh wait, I knew that, 459 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: but actually did I know that? Or did about? Just 460 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: assuming of course he did. I've lived in more places 461 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: over the world than I have in places in America. 462 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: Fun fact of the week. All right, so what's tell 463 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: us about Canada? Bit? In Canada, doctors in private practice 464 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: are generally paid through fee for service schedules that itemize 465 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: each service that you received, and then they pay a 466 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: fee to the doctor for each service rendered. So you know, 467 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: you go in for your gangle and sist or whatever 468 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: the fun they got like a you know, fee for 469 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: service schedule that tells you how much that's gonna cost. 470 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: That's how much the doctor gets paid for that. And 471 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: these fee for service schedules are negotiated between each provincial 472 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: and territorial government and the medical professions in their respective jurisdictions. 473 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: Nurses and other healthcare professionals are generally paid um salaries 474 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: that are negotiated between their unions and their employers. So 475 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: that's how kind of everybody's paid is worked out on 476 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: that end. Then hospitals are generally funded through annual global 477 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: budgets that set overall expenditure targets to limits, as opposed 478 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: to these fee for service arrangements. So they're gonna say, like, 479 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: all right, in two thousand and twenty two, this is 480 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: what we think we're gonna you know, that we think 481 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: healthcare is going to cause for this hospital, and then 482 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: that's negotiated between the hospital and the provincial or territorial 483 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: ministry of health or with the regional health authority or board. Um. Again, 484 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: all paid for by like these I guess akin to 485 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: like states, the states, you know, negotiating with either the 486 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: private health care providers to the hospitals. Right. So, for 487 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: long term care, let's say you're in some a position 488 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: like villa health care. Services provided in long care long 489 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: term care facilities are paid for by provincial and territorial governments, um. 490 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: But then room and board costs are paid for by 491 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: the individual. Usually in some cases, payments for room and 492 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: board are also subsidized by the provincial territorial government. So 493 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: not only is it like all right, we all baby 494 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: like medical costs like also, it's very expensive for you 495 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: to literally stay here and sleep here every day, so 496 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 1: we're gonna cover that too, fucking pig uh. And then 497 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: I mean, but the kicker, the catch, if you could 498 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: call it that, is it supplementary health benefits like prescription 499 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: drugs outside of hospital, central care, vision care, medical equipment 500 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: appliances like per THESS or wheelchairs, um, and you know, 501 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: other health professional services like this's your therapist aren't usually 502 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: covered unless your kids are very old. So people who 503 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: don't qualify for the supplementary benefits pretty much like if 504 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: you are a normal age or whatever, um, you need 505 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: to pay for these services out of pocket or through 506 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: private health insurance plans like in America, and like America, 507 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: many Canadians either to their employers, are on their own 508 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: are covered by private health insurance that helps, you know, 509 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: cover the cost of these supplemental forms of care for 510 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: your doctor, for your dental appointment, for your glasses whatever, whatever. 511 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: So super cool. So, I mean, fans of Medicare for 512 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: all probably know all this already. But here's a few 513 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: things that I think are superior. Number One, usually, I 514 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: mean most obviously, you usually don't even see a bill, 515 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: and even if you did, it wouldn't be nearly as 516 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: high as a bill that you see here. Because in 517 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: Canada costs your control. Canada pays ten percent of his 518 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: GDP for its health care system, and boom, everybody's covered. Plus, 519 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: the tax payments that fund the health care system are progressive, 520 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: so if you are the lowest twenty percent of income earners, 521 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: you pay six percent of your income into the system, 522 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: while the twenty highest of income earners pay about eight 523 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: percent of their income into the system. Another plus, the 524 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: simplicity of the system leads to major savings and administrative 525 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: costs and overhead, so you don't have to like hire someone, 526 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: so you don't have like your own your insurance company 527 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: like that, but you have to pay to like hire 528 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: the person that goes through and try to figure out 529 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: why they're going to deny you care for some reason, 530 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: and like pay that person's salary. Like all that extra 531 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: ship gets cut out, and then you can really choose 532 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: your doctors and hospitals and keep them in Canada. There's 533 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: no like list of in network vendors and no extra 534 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: hidden charges for going out of network or anything like that. 535 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: And then there's the outcomes as well, So Canadians have 536 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: longer life expectancies and were infant mortality rates then do 537 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: US residents, So it actually like turns out better for 538 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: people that would come in super clutch right now, yo, 539 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: Like I mean, I feel like Medicare for all or 540 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: like you know, single care of universal health care is 541 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: like maybe my second favorite like policy, and it's because everybody, 542 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: like hell, everybody has health. Like if you eat, maybe 543 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: you don't want free college or maybe like this or that, 544 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: but like we all are mortals that are gonna fucking 545 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,479 Speaker 1: die if we don't go see a doctor. So literally 546 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: everybody is impacted by this, and just like thinking about 547 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: like the sigh of relief like that just ease on 548 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: your chest of just saying like I don't feel good, 549 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see a doctor. And to have that 550 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: kind of agency, Yeah, to just be able to go 551 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: do it and not feel that it's going to be 552 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: like a like crippling, serious financial blow or somebody. All 553 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: you need to worry. All you gotta worry about is 554 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: if your hands broken. Yeah, there's just one thing, Like 555 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: my hand hurts a lot. I think it's broken at 556 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: all you gotta focus on right now, is they in 557 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: my hands broken? And not like it's just especially now 558 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: in the age of pandemic. You know, it's like a 559 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: you don't know, you don't know what the long term 560 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: effects of COVID are actually going to be down the line. 561 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: And it's just like the more people that have that 562 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: sort of flexibility to get themselves taken care of and 563 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: still like live like a life is a real crew. Yeah. Now, 564 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: I can't know for sure if affordable health care would 565 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: have meant that Dilah would have gotten treatment sooner or 566 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: have been able to afford higher quality of treatment, either 567 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: of which could have prolonged or saved his life. Lucas 568 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: and T. T. P. R killers, So perhaps the conclusion 569 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: was foregone. But I do think about the number of 570 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: Dilla's out there that end up selling their MPC to 571 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: pay their for their treatment, or never get a chance 572 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: to make their masterpiece in the first place, or who 573 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: who can't muster the strength to create dig in the 574 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: record store because they can't afford treatments that they need 575 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,479 Speaker 1: to feel well. And in his personal case, I consider 576 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: the fact that his medical debts kept his family from 577 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: enjoying the royalties of his music after all these years. 578 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, we can't know what, how the 579 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: how a different health care system in America would have 580 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: changed the trajectory of Dilla's life, but we can't imagine 581 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: the impacts that does have on creators or would be 582 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: creators that do live here now and do see their 583 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: potential is constrained by the you know, hurdles of bureaucracy, 584 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: the expense, and then the very real cost of life 585 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: that comes with m delaying treatment or not being able 586 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,239 Speaker 1: to afford the kind of quality treatment. And I'll give 587 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: you a high quality of life, the longer life. And 588 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: also another thing to make it hit home is just 589 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: consider that it's like I mean, I don't know what 590 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: Jay Diller's finances are like, but we just read a 591 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: whole laundry list of famous rappers that Jay dill has 592 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: made songs with. So, you know, if you haven't experienced 593 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: the America's health care system personally, then just consider that 594 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: the dude who had all those songs had financial troubles 595 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: dealing with the ship once he got sick. So what 596 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: are regular people who don't have hit records? I know, Yeah, 597 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: that's crazy. Yeah, So let's take a little break real quick, 598 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: and when we come back, let's do a little discussion 599 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: of the impact of Donuts and Jay Dilla on um 600 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: hip hop a process spectrum ever since. Alrighty, so we're 601 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: about to dig into some Jay Dillers songs, uh, some 602 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: some joints that are off of Don't Nuts and kind 603 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: of go into some of the rappers that decided to 604 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: rap on them too. So up first, we've got one 605 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: of my personal favorites out of this crop and crew favorites. Uh. 606 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 1: It's the track one for Ghosts, which ghost Face Killer 607 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: ended up using on his album Fish Scales under the 608 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: name Whip You with the Strap. Pretty much ghost Face 609 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: flipped it to make it a joint about his mom 610 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: be acting out as a kid. That's so funny that 611 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: he like so j Dela finds these little samples and 612 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: just throws them as like a little adornments on his 613 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: minute long songs. And then you see it further being 614 00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: like copy and pasted and stretched a new direct and 615 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: where it's like the little sample like when I was bad, 616 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: Like he's like, you know, you can see ghost Face 617 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: like musing on that and then having the whole story 618 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: in his head about getting his ask meat by his moms. 619 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: I love it when cats do that with especially for 620 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: songs that have the vocal samples in them, you know, 621 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: like when somebody writes around with the vocal sample is 622 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: because sometimes sometimes cats are just rap over it, you 623 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like, oh that that vocal 624 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: sample is just like another instrument in the beat, So 625 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna wrap over it. It's just part of 626 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: the beat. But I love it what cats are like, Nah, 627 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 1: I'm like pause, so the vocal sample can just play 628 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: by itself, or I would even make the whole song 629 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: about what the sample is. Like. I wonder if Ghost 630 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: Face told him yo, I have an idea of for 631 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: a song about getting beat by my mom's and so 632 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: Jay Della found the sample or did jay Deal find 633 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: the sample, and ghost Face heard it and then wrote 634 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 1: the song It's crazy, and then the whole narrative like 635 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: actually when he's describing like himself doing as like this 636 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,959 Speaker 1: bad as whole kid in cussing and stop at yeah, 637 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: pick the peas off my plate, poured juice in the nickafus, 638 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: just being a little like god like little minutes. It's 639 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: just really adorable. Yeah, I love that song. I love 640 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 1: that now. That's great. Yeah, Oh, not to go too 641 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: far off topic. It probably is far off topic. But 642 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: there's another song on that album called It's about like 643 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: the difference between a Kilo and a Graham or something 644 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: like that. Remember, yeah, that album is so good fish sales, 645 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, So up next from the Donuts, we're 646 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: gonna check out the track the Last Donut, which Buster 647 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: Rhymes and Raw Digga ended up using for their track 648 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 1: the Best That Ever Did It. We're just gonna listen 649 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: to the Best that Ever did It and you'll you'll 650 00:37:54,840 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: hear the instrumental on this. Yeah, what a little bit 651 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: of play. That's a fucking classic banger right there. Rod 652 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 1: Digga is so dope. Yeah, classic and classy. It just 653 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: like makes me want to sip some fucking cavernet on 654 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: a goddamn like balcony overlooking a Parisian canal. That's another 655 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: one of those joints that you know, you go to 656 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: any hip hop knight in the country, any hip hop 657 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: knight in the country, if there's a cipher going on, 658 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: they're probably going to spend that beat for people to 659 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: wrap over. Yeah, like I was saying, Rod Digga doesn't 660 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: get her, Rod Digga is not do. If you guys 661 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: don't know who row Digga is, highly recommend you go 662 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: listen to some raw Digga. She's insanely dope. Don't come 663 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: back until you Yeah, I'm like, you're not allowed to 664 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: listen to the show anymore until you listen to Until 665 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: you don't listen to Rode Like for real, this next one, 666 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to get two out of 667 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 1: pocket and say that This is possibly the most popular, 668 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:19,240 Speaker 1: or at least most recognizable joint off of the Dilla Donuts, 669 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: because Dave Chappelle ended up using this as a theme 670 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: to his Netflix specials recently. A couple of years ago, 671 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: this is the track working on it Um. It was 672 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: used by the Roots for a collaboration with Saigon for 673 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: the album Game Theory. The verse from Saigon can be 674 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: heard in the mixtape Return of the Yard Father. Let's 675 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: check that up, Catching Yo. I just get sucking hype 676 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: every time the ship comes on. I'm just like I'm 677 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: in a spaceship, or I'm in a taxi cab flying 678 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: through Detroit, or am a toime machine going back to 679 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: nine seventy. I don't know it's happened in me, but 680 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,720 Speaker 1: I love it. We're getting it, like I just fucking 681 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about that track. So 682 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: it's so inspiring, you know. I recently found out that, 683 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people think that Diligenous used 684 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: to you know a lot of people think that dill 685 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: It was just like a master at like chopping the 686 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: loops and stuff. But I recently found out that he actually, 687 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: towards the end there he was replaying a lot of 688 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: those samples. So he would like sample the track and 689 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: make the ship, and then he would go back himself 690 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,919 Speaker 1: and like play the keys in the MPC baselines over 691 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 1: the stuff to re like replace the samples. I don't 692 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 1: even know if it was necessarily, you know, to not 693 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: use samples, but I just think he started going more 694 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: towards that direction in his production style. That's just like 695 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: inspiring because like I I didn't even know that he 696 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: did that, but that's like something that I try to 697 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: do when I'm making joints because I I sample for 698 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 1: my beach too. But it's like I'll actually get friends 699 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: of mine who are musicians to replay stuff and then 700 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: you know, letardly the other day, this dude is just 701 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: doing that ship himself. Is like, fucking musician. I'm the musician. 702 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,439 Speaker 1: Let me sit here and figure this out real quick. 703 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: The next five, Nfdom and Guilty Simpson wrapped over the 704 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: track mash Um, which they then called Matches Revenge, which 705 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: appeared on a Stone Slope Camp compilation called Feeballs Don't 706 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 1: Be Worn Because Jealous Van came to the back with 707 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: blankets along with two of the bassest brought back stacked 708 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 1: with black spits. Jesus Christo, you were You were such 709 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: a crazy motherfucker too. You're talking about okay, Uh what 710 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: does he say? Uh? Dyla raised the beat like an 711 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: anchor banker. Overstand the shooter and plays the heat and 712 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 1: Shanka anchor and then he's like, guess what, chicken head Bucks. 713 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: He's just saying, crazy ship. Yes, somebody should have made 714 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: and I don't know if somebody has already done it, 715 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: but somebody should have made like one of those uh 716 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: mashup joints with like just m F Doom and donuts. Oh, 717 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: it's got to be out there. So I mean, it's 718 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: just like that. That just seems like somebody, you know, 719 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about a track or two. I mean 720 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,959 Speaker 1: like just take all the best m F Doom joints 721 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: and just put the acapellas over donuts, like I want 722 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: to hear it. Hold on, wait a second d J 723 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: producer out there? If it doesn't exist, okay, No, I 724 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: got excited and I was like, wait found it. Yeah no, 725 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: it's just a couple. So they got like, uh this 726 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 1: the Dan Ghost, Doom the NiFe really and I knew 727 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: about that. And then the light works Yeah I knew 728 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: about that, but it's not like a whole thing. Yeah, 729 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: now I want to hear like a whole out there. 730 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:53,760 Speaker 1: You know, Doom definitely has enough songs and enough verses 731 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: that you could do it. So yeah, Okay, So for 732 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: the last one, let's let's make it a bit more temporary. 733 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: Let's check out a contemporary rapper like Big Sean paying 734 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: some tribute to Ja Della. He raps over the instrumental 735 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: for the song only two can win, Only two can win, 736 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: and that's worth more than another flower. Sometimes being yours 737 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 1: worn't more than promote. The only problem with it, it's 738 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: not even Big Sean's fault. It's just like listening to 739 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: a Big Sean verse directly after you listen to MF 740 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: Doom verse. It's like that's cue. It's like if you read. 741 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: It's like if you read a novel and then you 742 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: read something that's written in crown and it's like, okay, yeah, 743 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: you just finished. You just finished, like the Simarillion, and 744 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: then you scroll Twitter for an hour. Big that's not 745 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: Big Shots responsibility. He didn't tell us to listen that 746 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: that was dope. That was dope, but draw our attention 747 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 1: because likely to like how different all these beats sound, 748 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: And so I totally get the comparison that they like 749 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: us in the original press that release for Doughnuts, that like, 750 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 1: I do feel like I'm scroll like I'm scanning the 751 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,320 Speaker 1: radio in a city I've never been to before. But 752 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 1: like it's not completely random or it's like it's still 753 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:21,320 Speaker 1: all in the same time period. It's still like but 754 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 1: like it's still like popping back and forth between the 755 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: rock station and like the conservative talk radio and the 756 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,879 Speaker 1: jazz and the you know it just it does sound 757 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: like two different you know, two different producers at war 758 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: with each other. For we never heard it. I've never 759 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: heard it describe that way. Um, as far as like 760 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 1: the whole concept behind it being like you're scanning the 761 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: radio stations and it's like when to hear that that 762 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: is the actual direction. Now I can kind of hear it, 763 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: and now I want to go back and listen to 764 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 1: the album against I can like, you know, listen to 765 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: it with that set of ears, knowing that that was 766 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: the direction that they wanted to take with it. Well, 767 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: I think that is going to do it for us 768 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: this week. If you guys haven't listened to jay Dilla, 769 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: you should listen to some jay Dilla and check out 770 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: the description of this episode because we'll have a list 771 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 1: of the songs that we're playing in it. Um, I 772 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 1: have a new song dropping tomorrow to go check that out. 773 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: It's on all of the the I'll you know the thing, 774 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: I really wish that we had it like that, that 775 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 1: we had what do the kids saying? The kids say cloud, right, 776 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 1: I wish that we had the cloud that we could 777 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 1: spend our favorite j dillaby and start wrapping over it 778 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: like that. So you know, soon maybe maybe with you'll 779 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: support if y'all keep subscribing and listening, and you know, 780 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:55,959 Speaker 1: I'm saying that maybe they'll let motherfucker's used to beat Joel. 781 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 1: It's gonna beat. I probably should have thought about what 782 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: I was gonna wrap work. He started to beat, Yo 783 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 1: yo yeo. Yeah, reparations, dope knife, you know, the sun pillage, 784 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: the illess love tainted free like the slum village. Got 785 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: the dutch cracked open. Someone come fill it, roll it 786 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: real tight round the back now, the sum spillage. I'll 787 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: be lying if I said I ain't rambling. I was 788 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: trying to stay focused, not to go on the tangent. 789 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 1: I came in there with a plan. I don't know 790 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,319 Speaker 1: where I landed. Now I'm sitting here and wrapping about 791 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: weed and I'm stranded. I closed better next week, get 792 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,800 Speaker 1: a technique. So when I go in wreck beats and 793 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,479 Speaker 1: make you shake your flesh cheeks. Dope Knife linga frank 794 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: dogs like a ten piece with a side of grits, 795 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: make you want to get the recipe to my homie dealer, 796 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,760 Speaker 1: Say your prayer may rest in peace. Nan Nigger Cheva 797 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: go down his expertise so you better see though they 798 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,720 Speaker 1: come in again. I'm lingle frank back and I'm Dope Knife. 799 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: We are waiting on oparations. 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