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Speaker 1: You found it the Second Date Update Podcast. It's Brook

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Speaker 1: and Jeffrey in the morning. Thanks for being here, especially

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Speaker 1: on a Sunday, you know, and Sunday we've really been

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Speaker 1: using to introduce you to all sorts of new relationship

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Speaker 1: drama segments that we do on the show. And today

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Speaker 1: I think it's the first one we've done on the

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Speaker 1: Second Date Update Podcast. We're gonna do a closure call. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean sometimes, yeah, they really are.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's probably the most serious thing that we do on

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Speaker 1: the show. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It is good serious, yeah, good serious.

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Speaker 1: And just emotional maybe is a better word than serious

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Speaker 1: intense maybe, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't laugh at all.

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Speaker 3: Cry, grab your tissues, get ready.

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Speaker 1: A closure call is where we have our producer work

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Speaker 1: with one of our listeners to get in touch with

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Speaker 1: somebody from their past. It could be like a family member,

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Speaker 1: a lot of exesmate that just disappeared once. Yeah, which

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Speaker 1: is a hint for what today's is, by the way. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: they come up with questions to ask this person that

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Speaker 1: has broken off contact with them, sometimes like years and

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Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah yeah, and then we read the responses

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Speaker 1: live on air and hopefully at the end, you know,

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Speaker 1: give them a chance to move forward.

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Speaker 5: You know, because they don't know they're going to hear this.

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Speaker 6: It's not the goal. It's not the goal, but sometimes

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Speaker 6: it does happen. So now you understand what it is.

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Speaker 6: Hopefully you enjoy it definitely. Let us know in the comments.

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Speaker 6: We love reading your comments.

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Speaker 1: We got some today.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I saw one from So Original. Yes, I'm many

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Speaker 3: o's okay, Yes, who said? My favorite moments are when

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey's genuine laugh sneaks out. It's hilariously adorable.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he tries to suppress it.

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Speaker 1: I swear he has to. He works with us because

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Speaker 1: off air jeff laughs so much.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, he's those people that makes me

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Speaker 3: feel really good about myself because he laughs at everything

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Speaker 3: you say.

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Speaker 1: No, sometimes when we'll go out to drinks, will be

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Speaker 1: like on the first drink and like, are you are

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Speaker 1: you drunk?

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Speaker 4: Always look, I don't think he's an alcoholic, but no,

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Speaker 4: he's got.

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Speaker 5: One beer in front of him and some good food.

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Speaker 1: Happy. Yeah, I know. All right, listen to the closure call.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being here. We got a brand new show

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Speaker 1: tomorrow of course too, so come back. But hope you enjoyed.

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Speaker 7: Who knows you better than anyone else. You may think

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Speaker 7: your mom, or your sibling, or your spouse, but now

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Speaker 7: the truth is, nobody sees you like a roommate sees you.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, you're right, you're my old roommate.

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Speaker 5: Probably knows more about me.

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Speaker 2: Than my family.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they know all your annoying little habits, your lazy tendencies,

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Speaker 7: and what your soapy silhouette looks like through that shower curtain.

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Speaker 5: Wait, what they've seen.

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Speaker 7: That's why one of our listeners is so distraught because

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Speaker 7: he and his roommate became real close friends till everything

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Speaker 7: on that day.

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Speaker 5: That's why he's.

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Speaker 7: Enlisted our help for a brand new closure call. We're

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Speaker 7: gonna get some answers coming up right after this. Who

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Speaker 7: knows you better than anyone else. You may think your mom,

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Speaker 7: or your sibling, or your spouse, But now the truth is,

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, you're right, you're my old roommate.

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Speaker 5: Probably knows more about me than my family.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they know all your annoying little habits, your lazy

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Speaker 5: Wait, what they've seen.

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Speaker 7: That's why one of our listeners is so distraught because

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Speaker 7: he and his roommate became real close friends till everything

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Speaker 7: on that day. That's why he's enlisted our help for

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Speaker 7: coming up right after this. We've been doing closure calls

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Speaker 7: for a while now, and most of the time when

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Speaker 5: We're a little confusing.

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Speaker 7: But today today is interesting because I'd say not a

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Speaker 1: Oh I could see that.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I mean I try to avoid most of mine.

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Speaker 7: But apparently that's what our listener, Adam is looking for today,

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Speaker 7: closure with one of his past roommates. So, Adam, welcome

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Speaker 4: Hey, oh thank you.

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Speaker 1: Is this person just a roommate, because usually roommates are

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Speaker 1: also your best friends and people that you love, you know,

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: He was just a roommate and then we became really

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Speaker 4: close buddies. God, I moved into.

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Speaker 7: A house where I literally found it on craigslist, didn't

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Speaker 7: know anyone, and then we became best friends.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's the easiest way to be friends

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Speaker 1: with somebody and you know everything about them immediately, you know.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean that's how it was with him.

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Speaker 4: We became great friends really quickly.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, But some friends you can't live with.

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Speaker 3: It's different.

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Speaker 7: And because this is a closure call, how long has

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Speaker 7: it been since you were roommates with this guy?

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Speaker 1: Like, he's not in the next room right now, is he?

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Speaker 4: No? I wish he's not here. He has been gone

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Speaker 4: for four years now.

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Speaker 5: Oh wows.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wait did he move out of your guys's place?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So the way it all went down was things were cool,

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Speaker 4: and all of a sudden he just wasn't there.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean, like in the middle of the

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Speaker 4: I would get home from work. I worked really early

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Speaker 4: And he was there, always there every single day, showed

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Speaker 4: up at home. The door's wide open, there's no note

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: It kind of freaked me out. Kat was still there.

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Speaker 1: Wait, his cat? Your cat? Whose cat?

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Speaker 4: His cat? I mean, I love the cat. You know,

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Speaker 4: I was a cool roommate. I fed the cat, played

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Speaker 1: Was your roommate kidnapped and you never filed a report?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because he's like I just heard help, help, help

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Speaker 7: from down the street.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I thought. I was freaking out, and

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Speaker 4: I didn't call authorities or anything, and I waited a

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Speaker 4: friends and families, and they were told from him that

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Speaker 4: he just didn't want to be my roommate anymore.

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Speaker 7: What I thought you said that you guys were like

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Speaker 4: We were great buddies. We had movie night.

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Speaker 7: Oh man, I can't a movie night anymore.

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Speaker 5: This is a tragedy.

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Speaker 1: I can't get over him leaving the cat. Did he

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Speaker 1: take his stuff when he left?

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Speaker 4: He took some stuff he took like some of his clothes,

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Speaker 4: But he left PlayStation.

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Speaker 2: He left like essentials.

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's upset about the PlayStation more than the

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Speaker 7: cat got to give up.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it sounds for a weekend trip, and

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Speaker 1: it was like, actually this is nicer. I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I know that I wasn't perfect. There

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Speaker 4: were things that kicked them off. I would eat his

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Speaker 7: Well did he label it food?

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Speaker 2: Not allowed to do that, guy, there is no labels.

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Speaker 5: Well there you go.

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Speaker 1: You got there's only two of you living there. You

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Speaker 1: don't have to label it.

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Speaker 7: If it's not yours, then if you didn't want me

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Speaker 7: to eat it, don't put it.

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Speaker 5: In our fridge. It's a shared space. What you're going

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Speaker 1: Now, remind me never to be a roommate with Jeffrey.

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Speaker 1: So wait, do you think he was mad at you?

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Speaker 1: Because that's what you're kind of.

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Speaker 4: Implying, I mean me eating some of his food every

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Speaker 4: I hardly ever did dishes.

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Speaker 1: You didn't do your own dishes and you ate his food.

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Speaker 2: Move.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not that dramatic.

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Speaker 4: You know. I cleaned the cat's litter and I held

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Speaker 1: But he never talked to you about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't have just been about silly little things

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Speaker 4: like that. And I know it's kind of weird because

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Speaker 4: he was just my roommate and I know it was

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Speaker 4: four years ago, but still it is haunting me that

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Speaker 4: this person would just up and go. And I really

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Speaker 2: I would love to know what I did.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, yeah, So if our audience doesn't know or

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Speaker 7: remember how the segment works, Adam does.

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Speaker 5: Obviously.

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Speaker 7: Our producers have been working with him to track down

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Speaker 7: his roommate, Roy, and we went to Roy's Instagram. Actually,

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Speaker 7: our producer has been sending him a lot of messaging

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Speaker 7: is and Roy finally responded. We asked him if we

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Speaker 7: could send him four questions from Adam.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and these are questions that Adam came up with

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Speaker 1: with our producer.

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Speaker 5: Yes, with help.

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Speaker 6: When you ask him that, do you say this doesn't

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Speaker 6: count as one of the questions.

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Speaker 7: Because he did agree to answer four brand new questions

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Speaker 7: and we got his responses ready Right now, this could

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Speaker 7: get a little bit intense for you.

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Speaker 5: Adam, Are you ready for it?

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Speaker 4: Did you already read him? Do you already know what

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Speaker 4: he should?

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Speaker 5: I haven't read them?

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Speaker 1: Now, do you know they're intense.

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Speaker 5: Well I'm just guessing, all right, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: We're all going to read them together and find out

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Speaker 7: what happened to your old roommate Roy, hopefully give you

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Speaker 7: a little bit of finality on it when we do, what.

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Speaker 1: Brook, Can I just ask, where's the cat down? I

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Speaker 1: was wondering that to you.

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Speaker 7: If that's not in the questions that was asked, then

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Speaker 7: we don't have anywers the cat.

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Speaker 2: The cat is sitting by my feet right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, needed to get animals.

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Speaker 4: We're on speaker phone. So if it's anything that would

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Speaker 4: really hurt the cat's feeling, okay, well.

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Speaker 7: Maybe that cat when we come back and do the

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Speaker 7: rest of your closure call right after this.

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Speaker 5: If you're just joining us.

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Speaker 7: We're in the middle of a closure call with Adam, who,

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Speaker 7: just to recap, had a roommate named Roy, and four

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Speaker 7: years ago Adam came home to find Roy was gone, Yes,

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Speaker 7: along with most of his belongings, left behind his cat

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Speaker 1: They were friends. Like, it's so crazy, I am so

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Speaker 7: No no orientication as to where Roy went. So Adam

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Speaker 7: has been wondering for years where did my buddy go?

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Speaker 5: And who's going to do my dishes now?

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Speaker 7: Because Adam, you admitted there were certain things you did

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Speaker 7: as a roommate that were not so good. Certain things

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Speaker 7: were really good. But what was the overall dynamic between

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Speaker 4: If I were to paint a picture, we were jokesters.

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Speaker 4: To guess there was a lot of laughter going on.

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Speaker 1: That's a good sign. Well, it's so weird because the

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Speaker 1: he didn't want to be roommates. Yeah, so it was

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Speaker 1: obviously planned a little bit exactly.

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Speaker 7: And before we get to these questions, that's the reason

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Speaker 7: because hearing stuff like that must hurt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody said the same thing.

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't even want to accept that that

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, say that you're hut.

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Speaker 7: All right, Well, let's get right to it, because we

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Speaker 7: have the four questions that you sent to Roy.

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Speaker 5: He has answered all four of them. Let's get some question.

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Speaker 5: Number one.

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Speaker 7: You said, hey man, it's been almost four years. I

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Speaker 7: still don't know why you moved out without telling me

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Speaker 5: Not much of a question, that's more of a statement there.

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Speaker 5: But you know, I'm not going to critique you.

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Speaker 1: That was the end.

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Speaker 2: There's no okay, Yeah, there.

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Speaker 5: Was no question. It's like, can you explain?

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Speaker 7: So Roy responded, he wrote, really you have no idea?

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Speaker 5: Adam?

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Speaker 1: What? Adam?

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Speaker 5: Okay? For starters? You stole my cat.

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Speaker 1: I what are you talking about? Yeah? You said that

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Speaker 1: Roy left the cat. Is that not true?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: He left the cat.

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Speaker 5: Here what he says.

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Speaker 7: I was the one who brought the cat into the

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Speaker 1: That's kind of weird.

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Speaker 4: First of all, much better name.

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Speaker 2: Is a and the cat liked it.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I think Paul is actually pretty funny. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna I just can't believe you changed. You're starting

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Speaker 4: I can't believe that he would be holding a grudge

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Speaker 4: for four years over the cat.

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Speaker 2: HA been an extra little puzza.

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Speaker 7: Well, well, there's there's more to his first answer. He

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Speaker 7: also said you would keep him in your room at

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Speaker 7: when I wanted to see Paul. So that's one example

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Speaker 7: of your incredibly toxic behavior right there.

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Speaker 1: Toxic. He dropped the word on you.

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Speaker 2: The cat wanted to sleep with me.

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Speaker 4: Okay, if you want the cat and everyone locks their

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Speaker 1: Listen, Yeah, we're not trying to attack you, but it

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Speaker 1: sounds like you need to take a moment to take

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Speaker 7: The only person who could honestly answer that is his cat,

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Speaker 7: And so we don't have time to do a whole

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Speaker 5: We have to stick with the questions to Roy.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 7: Let's go to number two. It says, I know I

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Speaker 7: wasn't the perfect roommate.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's good. That's admitting some guilt, therefire responsibility.

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Speaker 7: If it was something I did when I lived with you,

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Speaker 7: Could you please give me a specific example that I

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Speaker 3: Did I get it?

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Speaker 1: More?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 7: But remember when we write these, we don't have the

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Speaker 7: in one mass email.

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Speaker 1: Adam, are you ready to hear this? Because it didn't

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Speaker 2: Now this situation, I will accept it.

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Speaker 4: The cat threw me off. That threw me off.

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Speaker 7: I feel optimistic about where this is going. So his

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Speaker 7: response was, Okay, you want more about Netflix Sundays. When

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Speaker 7: and then once.

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Speaker 5: We were a half hour in, you'd pause.

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Speaker 7: The film and tell me the ending what you thought

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Speaker 7: it was hilarious, and did that ten times until I

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Speaker 5: Maybe once made.

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Speaker 1: Funny.

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Speaker 7: Well, sometimes sometimes it's better to spoil the ending so

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Speaker 7: you don't suffer a bad movie.

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Speaker 1: He did it before the movie started. You let the

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, I will say, and I'll say calmly,

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Speaker 4: that is fair. It's not worth losing a friendship over. Okay.

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Speaker 4: I may have told him the ending of Breaking Bad,

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Speaker 4: but it was very funny.

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Speaker 5: I still the ending of that.

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Speaker 1: Actually, how many seasons into Breaking Bad were you before

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Speaker 1: you ruin the end?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 7: I mean, brook is really offended over the spoiling of movies.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'll tell you there was one time when

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Speaker 4: I was invested in, hystericle.

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Speaker 1: It's a sa.

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Speaker 5: Maybe if you need a new roommate, Brooks husband could

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Speaker 5: be it.

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Speaker 1: But did Roy ever tell Did Roy ever tell you

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: He did, Brook.

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Speaker 7: This is not a closure call for you and watching

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Speaker 1: It's not going well. That's the next question, Jeff.

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Speaker 5: He's a question question number three that we sent Joy.

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Speaker 4: If I need to hear anymore, well, Brook needs.

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Speaker 7: To hear.

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Speaker 5: We sent.

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Speaker 7: I know it's been a long time, but it would

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Speaker 7: really mean a lot to me if you came to

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Speaker 7: my birthday party next.

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Speaker 5: I would love to see you.

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Speaker 1: That's really sweet.

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Speaker 2: I'd like him there. It's my birthday.

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Speaker 5: It's a big pew.

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Speaker 7: So Roy responded back, saying, are you trolling me with this?

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Speaker 7: Don't you remember the great birthday disaster? You threw me

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Speaker 7: that surprise birthday party but forgot to invite me or

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Speaker 7: did you do it on purpose?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 7: I came home and the party was done, all my

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Speaker 5: What happened there?

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Speaker 4: Adam, that's just okay. I did a lot of work

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Speaker 4: and I did all the secret invites, shut.

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Speaker 2: Up the whole party. And it was an honest mistake.

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Speaker 4: I just forgot the one thing.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, I forgot Text him in the middle of

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Speaker 2: We were having fun.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure you left him a slice of cake for

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Speaker 5: when he got home, right.

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Speaker 7: Roy, What were we talking about?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Roy's birthday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally did not do it on purpose. I

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Speaker 1: And how that stuff that all of his friends didn't stay.

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Speaker 5: It was a really good party that he's through. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: it sounds.

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Speaker 1: Like Roy's not coming to Adams.

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Speaker 7: Bird hold on, we have time for one more question here.

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Speaker 7: This could salvage the entire friendship and maybe even have

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Speaker 1: I hope you're learning something from this.

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Speaker 7: Adam wrote, no matter what I did, do you think

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Speaker 2: Statement?

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Speaker 5: Brook doesn't forgive you, But there.

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Speaker 4: You know so well. The subtext is there's a question

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Speaker 4: there of do you forgive me? Will you come back

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Speaker 4: to me and the cat.

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Speaker 7: The cat you kind of stole and renamed and locked

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Speaker 7: You're way too immature, and life's a big joke to you,

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Speaker 7: Like every time you'd ask me to stop at the

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Speaker 7: then you'd call ahead and tell the workers I was

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Speaker 7: a missing person.

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Speaker 5: It got old.

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Speaker 4: Found that was funny though it was created.

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Speaker 7: Even Brooks laughing at that one.

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Speaker 5: Every twenty to be actually good.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Adam, You've got to balance all this

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Speaker 2: I'd think it was balanced, though.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you just made his life living hell.

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Speaker 2: I'm willing to accept that he doesn't want to come back.

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Speaker 4: I'll have to break it to the cat, and I

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 7: At the end of the day, the goal was to

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Speaker 7: your roommate.

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Speaker 5: Do you feel like you got it?

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Speaker 4: You know what I did get closure. Life is a

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Speaker 4: but apparently he's taken it all serious.

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Speaker 5: To find the middle ground there anyway, go ahead at him.

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Speaker 7: Feel free to hop on Craigslist and get yourself a

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Speaker 1: Hopefully none of them listen to this.

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Speaker 5: And happy belated birthday to Roy by.

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Speaker 4: The way, if you're listening, I don't wish him happy birthday.

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Speaker 2: He's not going to be there.

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Speaker 5: It's my birthday.