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Speaker 1: Hey, ba fan, Mandy here or Mandra, you can call

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Speaker 1: me Mandra, that's fine. I have a simple request for you, guys.

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Speaker 2: Hey hey, hey, I always forget this is not the budget, Like, wait,

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Speaker 2: we're back, We're blacken arownd.

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Speaker 1: Hey Mandra, Hey, I feel weird that I was just like.

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Speaker 2: Dude, I know, Mandra came to my house and you

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Speaker 2: got to meet my Niecy Pooh and my nephew, my

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Speaker 1: I did well. First of all, it was so good

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Speaker 1: to see you in person, it really was. And even

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Speaker 1: with your gimpy shoulder. I you know, I forgot about

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Speaker 1: your gimpy shoulder, but I was like even before that,

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Speaker 1: I was like, don't squeeze her too hard. But it

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Speaker 1: was really really good to see you. It fed my

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Speaker 1: soul to see and you guys will see that what

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Speaker 1: we were up to. It's been almost six years and

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Speaker 1: we have not had a fresh new luke, as they say,

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Speaker 1: in almost six years for the podcast. So we were

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Speaker 1: getting some new picks taken.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and honestly they were. They look fire.

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Speaker 2: I'm just really excited because no, they do. Because well,

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Speaker 2: one I brought in my makeup artist, Leela Nima. Shout

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Speaker 2: out to you, Mala, She's l I.

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Speaker 3: L I l A n E E M A on.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, she's great because she's fast, she's professional and like,

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Speaker 2: you know, Mandy and I could not look more different,

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Speaker 2: and yet the sleigh was was available and attainable for

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Speaker 1: Know, and I trusted her fully. I was like, because

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Speaker 1: I had to go, you know, I was. I live

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Speaker 1: will trust you. Ever has been doing her face, So

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Speaker 1: Leila did it, and she's she's a true artist. And

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Speaker 1: I don't take makeup artists for granted, but she yeah,

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Speaker 1: for that medium. And yeah, six years ago, I did

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Speaker 1: I had my sad little drug store makeup and make

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Speaker 2: And I looked at I looked at the picture because

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Speaker 2: I know. I was like that I noticed me. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: neither one of us had professional makeup. And honestly, what

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Speaker 1: So yeah, black girl magic all the way up down,

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Speaker 2: Yes, speaking of minds and my mindset, so literally I

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Speaker 2: you're like yah, yeah, yeah, YadA YadA yadasmaa, right, because

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Speaker 2: that's usually what I think. And I'm like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'll have a Zion who's my executive business coach. But

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Speaker 2: I also have doctor Green who's who's my professional coach,

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Speaker 2: Som hm. So we have a year contract. So it's

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Speaker 2: up in November. If we decide to move forward, then

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Speaker 2: having the hard conversations and me, I've been making progress

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Speaker 2: Remember that level of joy that they just exuded, and

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Speaker 2: money is not hard to manage or make. It sounds

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, that's not true, Tiffany. If jay

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Speaker 2: likely just pick up a call and do some sort

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Speaker 2: of partnership and it would be worth a million dollars

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Speaker 2: or more. Money With the right foundation, is not hard

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Speaker 2: I remember one time, like this is maybe like four

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Speaker 2: want you to dream without hesitation or limitation, meaning like

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Speaker 2: I want to have a house to side with Oprah.

433
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 2: I want to have, you know, I want to have

434
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Speaker 2: twenty million dollars in my vacaccount. Like like what it

435
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 2: reminded me of is this weekend. I had my niece

436
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 2: and my nephew, Rooman and Amelia, and I asked Amelia,

437
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,159
Speaker 2: I said, what do you want to do this weekend?

438
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 2: And she said, I want to go to the farm.

439
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,439
Speaker 2: I want to go to the zoo. My friend Rihanna

440
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 2: has like three cats and the dog. She said, I

441
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 2: want to go to aunt Rihanna's house to pet the

442
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 2: cats and to see the dog. And then she said

443
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 2: something that seems so crazy. She said, I want to

444
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 2: go to outer space and I was like what She said, yes, Mars.

445
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, Mars.

446
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 2: She said yes because it's red, because clearly she must

447
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 2: have watched whatever on some show and she just decided, ooh,

448
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 2: that looks cute.

449
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 3: I want to be on this red planet.

450
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 2: And I was just like okay, and she said I

451
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 2: want to take a bubble bath and I want to

452
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 2: do a picnic. And I was just like, so Amelia

453
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 2: is well, she have three she's four, but really verbal.

454
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 2: But I just remember thinking to myself, like that's the

455
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,199
Speaker 2: kind that's when you're doing this exercise, do it with

456
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 2: like with a million energy. You want to go to

457
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 2: the park, pet the dog, you know, have a picnic,

458
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 2: bubble bath, Mars. Everything without hesitation, without limitation. Just let

459
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 2: your act as if your your your little self, your

460
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 2: preschool or self that didn't have any limitation. Write it down,

461
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 2: speak it if that's what works for best for you,

462
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,199
Speaker 2: because we have.

463
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,919
Speaker 3: Forgotten how to dream.

464
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 2: Dame Dash has his videos that just came up Mandy

465
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 2: that said sorry. It was like Dame Dash, you know

466
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: jay Z's ex manager. He was like, yo, I'll be

467
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 2: out here dreaming cheap as a dream costs money, he said, Yo.

468
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 3: Dreams are free.

469
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 2: You know that, right, That ten million dollars dream costs

470
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 2: you the same amount of money to have that one

471
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars dream. So like, why are you going

472
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 2: cheap on your dream when it's absolutely free? And that's

473
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 2: what I want. And so that's one of the ways

474
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 2: to start that, to open up that feeling inside you,

475
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 2: you know that, like, let me dream big and huge.

476
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 2: It's not about whether you're gonna get it or out.

477
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 2: You're just going to say the thing. Because if you

478
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 2: can't dream the thing, you certainly cannot have the thing.

479
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 2: It's very difficult to have a thing that you that

480
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 2: you have not you know, at least thought about. So

481
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: it starts really from there, and it's just such a

482
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 2: powerful lesson and tool, right because it's just I promise you,

483
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 2: if you dream small, you live small, because one of

484
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 2: the things you will start to realize. I was talking

485
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: to a young woman today who asked me to be

486
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Speaker 2: her mentor, and she was was she asking me, She

487
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 2: was saying, you know, like, well, I don't know if

488
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Speaker 2: I can have that, And I said, you know, has

489
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: anybody else ever gotten that, And she said yes, And

490
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna cause she was Nigeriana, Nigeria's well and

491
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 2: actually her name was She's the only other adochi As

492
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: I've ever met. My African name is Adoci and her

493
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 2: African name's Adoche as well. And she was like, I said,

494
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 2: you already know, Like what what would a Nigerian tell you?

495
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 2: She would be like, well, do they have two heads?

496
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 2: My dad would say that, like if I came home

497
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: with a B and I was happy about it, like

498
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 2: you're happy about this bee? Did anybody get a? I'm like, oh,

499
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 2: Mandy got a? Oh Mendy got an a? Does Mandy

500
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 2: have two hits? Because the implication there is unless Mandy

501
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 2: has two brains, why sho out here gay a's and

502
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: you ain't? Meaning aids were being given, sis go get

503
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 2: you one, so meaning that like people are making million, sis.

504
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: Go make you some Where's the line though, because we

505
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: I think we I mean, just to be Devil's advocate,

506
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: you can it can backfire in the sense of, you know,

507
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: looking at other people and comparing yourself constantly and never

508
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 1: being happy with what you've got. And I think the

509
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: the pessimist that I was that you know, not nature walk.

510
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: When I was trying to sell this book idea about mediocrity.

511
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: I think also there's a bit of there's a bit

512
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: of a lesson there in that sometimes it's like you

513
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: want to dream big, but you also have to dream

514
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 1: dream from a place of like a positive mindset that

515
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: you're happy with what you have, like you're you're it's

516
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: almost like you're you're comfortable and you are content, but

517
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 1: you're and you're not dreaming because you're not content with

518
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: the core what really matters, like your core, you know

519
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: your core self, like you know who you are, You

520
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: have your family, you have friends, you have a good

521
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: support system. You know what I'm saying, Like we're.

522
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 3: Not telling dreams are not like that.

523
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Speaker 2: When I said, amiliar, what do you want to do

524
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 2: this weekend? She didn't say unlike like, well, like my

525
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 2: my friend from preschool. I know, she's just pulling from

526
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 2: the experiences she she saw out of Space on whatever

527
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 2: Netflix things she was watching, was like, that seems cool,

528
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 2: want to try that? So she she knew that Rihanna

529
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: had a dog and that we've been talking about it.

530
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: That seems cool, want to try that? I think so

531
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 2: the key with dreaming. It's not that you're looking at

532
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 2: what Mandy has to say I want it because Mandy

533
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: has it. What you're looking at what Mandy has is

534
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: the evidence that it exists. You see what I mean

535
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: meaning that, wait, there are people that have accomplished this

536
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: that fills me with hope and joy. It's doable, it's doable.

537
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: Or if not that specific thing is doable, something as

538
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: big or your own version, your own version of that,

539
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: Like you're not trying to go move to Portugal, No,

540
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: not at all and have the one anchor garden like

541
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: Christina Aman. Yeah, but you're you're on your own journey

542
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: toward because of what it looks.

543
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: Like to me is I didn't like, I'm not interested

544
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: in moving to Portugal at all. But what I looked

545
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: at Iman and Christina from our rich journey is what

546
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 2: it made me realize is that it is possible to

547
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: find that level of joy and have done the work

548
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: and to leave it like Tiffy, you don't got to

549
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: keep going if you don't want to, like, joy can

550
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: be found, and I just so it was I looked

551
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: at them as the possibility of living in joy like that,

552
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: not that I wanted like their life, not at all,

553
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 2: but I wanted to, like they gave me hope, Like

554
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: this level of joy is possible in this crazy you know,

555
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 2: just like topsy Turvy world, we're overworking, you get a

556
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: badge for doing the most. Here are people who are

557
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: doing exactly what they wanted to do. They're not doing

558
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: the least, they're not doing the most, They're doing there

559
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 2: just right and are happy with it. So yeah, so

560
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: I want, yes to Mandy to your point, you're not

561
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: using other people to make yourself feel bad. It's more

562
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 2: so to give you the in the absence of hope,

563
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 2: looking to say that there is a version of that

564
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: life out there. Here's proof. Wow, it's accessible to.

565
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 3: Me as well.

566
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah.

567
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 2: So it's just like I just you know, wanting that

568
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: for us because I just honestly, I'm more excited because, honestly, Mandy,

569
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 2: up until now, even though it doesn't seem like it,

570
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: because so much has happened, I really pulled back a lot,

571
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: like meaning that I could, I could have accomplished much more,

572
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: but I purposefully do less because I've attached with accomplishing

573
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: more to working more. So I'm like, no, I'm i

574
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 2: gonna do a left.

575
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 3: No, no, no, and even more so now smarter, not harder.

576
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: Exactly, I want to do go deep instead of wide, Like, Tiffany,

577
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: how do I do accomplish more while doing less?

578
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 3: It is more than possible.

579
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 2: And now that I've opened up my mindset, all of

580
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: a sudden, many like literally, there are things that have

581
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: been there. I know Taylor eight years. I'm just now

582
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: thinking of her, you know, like, wait, all these solutions

583
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: have been here that I'm just now because I'm shifting

584
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 2: my mindset. I'm tapping into already existing solutions.

585
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 3: Like almost all.

586
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: That you're wanting is right there in front of you,

587
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: but because of the state of your mindset, you can't

588
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: see them. Not because they don't exist, not because you

589
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 2: have to stretch extra far and wide. It's your mindset

590
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 2: has blinded you to the solutions that are right in

591
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: front of you. And so I'm excited because I don't

592
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: have to do much more, just tap into what's already there.

593
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my goodness, Tiffany, this has been

594
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: here all this time, all this time.

595
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: I'm kind of smiling because I kind of want to

596
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: break into this one song on Sesame Street that comes

597
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: on all the time, and it's so simple. But I'm

598
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: saying I think Sesame Street is having a very good

599
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: impact on mye. I love that show. I never watched

600
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: it as a kid. I was more into like Barney

601
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: and I don't know Arthur, Power Rangers, whatever, but it

602
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: those messages hit okay, And this one song is it's

603
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: very simple. The lyric it's, God, am I really going

604
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: to sing this? Okay? Fine, I'm that parent, Now do it.

605
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,719
Speaker 1: It's I'm not gonna sing it. But the lyric is

606
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: I wonder what if let's try? That's the hook and

607
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,239
Speaker 1: the messages when you have a problem to solve, what

608
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: do you say? You wonder? I wonder what if let's try?

609
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: And always it's a it's it's a frustrating problem. But

610
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: a lot of people and I think this was in

611
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: your book too. I'm not that you know I read it,

612
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: just you know most of it. So the piece of

613
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: it is like people can get stuck in the in

614
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: the mess, you know, or the problem or the challenge.

615
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: And I think the anecdote is about your mom being

616
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: a paper towel person, like, yeah, there's a mess, but

617
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: let's actually do something. And that message in Sesame Street

618
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: song too, is just it's such a simple message. And

619
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure if you had asked someone like an adult,

620
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: what do you do when you have a problem, they'd

621
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, you'd figure out how to fix it.

622
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: But in the moment, I think, I think the difference

623
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: between people who are successful and then think big and

624
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: achieve big things is that they don't let themselves get

625
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: lost in that misery stew Whenever you know, when there's

626
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: a problem, where there's a challenge, or it seems like

627
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: the stakes are against you, I mean, you've got to

628
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: be You've got to build that mental resilience. You've got

629
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: to And when I say like, I have had some

630
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: of the biggest knocks in my life the past couple

631
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: of years, but I have bounced back like lightning, And

632
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: I look around and I'm like, that's because I have

633
00:29:54,920 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: been building the infrastructure of mental, physical, and and emotional

634
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: well being and resilience, and through therapy, through focusing on

635
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: my sleep, through physical activity like getting back really into

636
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: good physical shape, through having joy, like spending time getting

637
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: really clear on what I value and spending time doing

638
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: those things, being outside gardening, playing like I play like

639
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: an eight year old child every day because of my kid. Like,

640
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: I know, I was late to the podcast. I was

641
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: walking in the woods, digging in the dirt with my son.

642
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: You're like, I'm in the woods.

643
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, this funny, the street lights aren't on yet,

644
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: the where elside playing.

645
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 5: You know.

646
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Speaker 1: I'm I just and I think that that was and

647
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: thank god. But I'm like, no matter what, I genuinely

648
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 1: can feel that now the worst thing can happen and

649
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: it will be terrible, but I will overcome it. And

650
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,719
Speaker 1: that knowledge makes me braver. And I think the choices

651
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: that I've made have gotten bigger and scarier. But I'm

652
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: I know, I'm I know, I have a soft place

653
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: to land because I've got like my you know, I've

654
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: got my survival kit. And it's not money and it's

655
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: not canned food. I mean, those things are nice. Okay, fine,

656
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: that's a lie. I do have my emergency fund, which

657
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: is very very very very nice and important. But I

658
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: also have my husband who gets on my nerves but

659
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: he's always there for me when I'm really down, and

660
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: my my baby, and I have my you know, good

661
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: relationships with my siblings and very quality friendships and of

662
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: course my partnerships like Tiffany. I mean you're also a friend,

663
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: but you're a partner and someone I can you know,

664
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Speaker 1: lean on. And I know that you talk about financial

665
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: wholeness in your book, but that's kind of the message too.

666
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: You know what's in your how how are you becoming

667
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: more resilient to challenges so that when you're facing with

668
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: those challenges and maybe when you're in like a negative

669
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: thought spiral and your mindset's not right, who is it

670
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: that's around you to help you, you know, snap out

671
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: of it and get back to your your place of

672
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: positivity so you can really hit your you know, reach

673
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Speaker 1: your full potential.

674
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Speaker 2: One of the best guests I ever gave to myself. Like,

675
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: so I'm forty one now, but right before my fortieth birthday,

676
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: I said, timpany enough already, and I got rid of

677
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: the very last of my bully friends.

678
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: Remember we talked about that early, you know, MILLI friends.

679
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: That's like you know people who you're like, that's my friend,

680
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: but you're like, they kind of don't treat me that great,

681
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: and you're like, wait, what are they here? I didn't

682
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: know how to stand up for myself. I didn't know

683
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: how to say hey, don't say that to me, don't

684
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: treat me that way. And so I had always since

685
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: elementary school. Not most of all my friends would be great,

686
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: but I always had one friend that I allowed to

687
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: bully me, and it would get worse year after year.

688
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 3: And finally at forty.

689
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, you're the last of the Mooheicans

690
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: and you have to go. And it was not easy,

691
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: but it was so liberating. And when I tell you,

692
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: instantly like I felt lighter. I remember I was so

693
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: afraid of like, what's gonna happen? And am I gonna

694
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: miss this person? And I can honestly say I don't like,

695
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,239
Speaker 2: I don't, not even a little bit. Maybe a key

696
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: key here and there, but no, you know, they took way.

697
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: More than they gave.

698
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: It was it was, you know, and I but I

699
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: added to that, you know, unfortunate relationship because I allowed it.

700
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 3: And so I'm just.

701
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: So so what I have around me now that safe

702
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: space slent every friend, I look like, it's just this

703
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: beautiful soul. I look at my friend Rihanna, the one

704
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 2: who designed my home. She's just the kindest person heart

705
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: her husband Jermaine, they're like me and my husband's first

706
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: couple friend. You know, we're like the guy actually likes

707
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: a guy, the girl likes a girl, and the guy

708
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: likes a girl. Like literally like all around, we're like

709
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: we love each other. So the first full fledged couple friends.

710
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: And they're amazing and kind and giving. Well, my husband

711
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: you are, you know, it's awesome. Like Mandy got to

712
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: see him and his super tall selle.

713
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 3: I forgot how Tlly was and he was so happy to.

714
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: See Mandy, like, oh, it's Mandy and so.

715
00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: Me and the kid's just following us around.

716
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: That's really and just like but you know, just kind

717
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: and generous and and my friend Cabral same thing. When

718
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: I really look at the reflections of myself that I

719
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: see out there, it's I have the kindest, most generous friends.

720
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: I've always had good relationships with my sisters, thank goodness.

721
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,959
Speaker 2: So that's always been there. But even like probably better

722
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: and tighter now, my parents were in a really.

723
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 3: Good space and place.

724
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: We didn't always have like the greatest relationships because you know,

725
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: teenage years, woof, it was a lot, if I do

726
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: say so myself, and I do say so myself, and

727
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: even into my twenties it was a lot. And plus

728
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: they were so strict. So but now you know as adults,

729
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: as an adult, you know, I've come to really appreciate

730
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,959
Speaker 2: them and understand some of that strictness and understand why.

731
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: But we have such a great relationship now and so

732
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: myself saved my place to land. Definitely my relationships and

733
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: just how amazing they are. But what I really learned,

734
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: and I had to remember this because I had to

735
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: downpat that I lost them, Like when I first started

736
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: the budgeteast them and did a lot of reading, and

737
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: I was reading some random article about the mindset shift

738
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 2: from becoming a millionaire to a billionaire.

739
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: Don't ask me how I found this article.

740
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: But I remember being really curious because they found that

741
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: they had interviewed all these billionaires, and they had interviewed

742
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: all these millionaires, and they found that the way billionaires

743
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: dealt with challenges was completely different. They welcomed them and

744
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: were almost joyful by them, like joy filled literally by them.

745
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: And I thought, huh, and I remember actively practicing that.

746
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: And here's why. Because the billionaire saw the challenge as

747
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: a clear indication that they were moving from one place

748
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: to the next, that it wasn't the challenge itself, like dang,

749
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: this really sucks. It was like, wait, am I growing? Yes,

750
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: I'm finally leveling up to the next level, because this

751
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: challenge is an indication of that. And I just remember

752
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: that I used to actively practice that Mandy that like

753
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: the website is down, Yes, that means we have so

754
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: much traffic. We need to level up. You know, we

755
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 2: need a new email list. Yes, that means we have

756
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: so many people on the email list.

757
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: This no longer works. So I used to it in

758
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 3: the beginning.

759
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 2: With a budgetista. I was really good at making that

760
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 2: connection that, like, you know, a challenge happens, it's a

761
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 2: good thing because it meant growth. And then somewhere along

762
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: the way I forgot and I started to look at

763
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: every challenge like I normally look at challenges as.

764
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: My life, you know.

765
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: So that's what I would say that I am rediscovering

766
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 2: that back again to look at challenges as a clear

767
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: marker that you're shifting from where you said, where you

768
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: said that you are to where you're wanting to be,

769
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: and that this is just the challenge, is just this

770
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: little rough patch that's the line of demarcation for growth.

771
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: I was here and now I am here. This is

772
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: super exciting and so like, yeah, those are the things

773
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: that that you know, kind of put a little pep

774
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: in my step.

775
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: I love this conversation and it's an important one to have,

776
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: but also gives me a pep in my stuff these days,

777
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: is that I got my second dose of the vaccine

778
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: and it feels like this pandemonium is finally over. And

779
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: if nothing else, you guys can like build resilience by

780
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: knowing y'all made it almost almost through a pandemic. We

781
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: have all at least got that on our resumes now survived,

782
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: was resilient enough to survive, and you know, make it

783
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: through a pandemic, and that was a huge, huge challenge

784
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: for so many people. So whether you wanted to or not,

785
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: you were challenged this year, and you know, celebrate that

786
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: and get strength from that knowledge because even if you

787
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: didn't quote unquote win the pandemic, you know, by losing

788
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: the thirty pounds and getting whatever, you know, learning your

789
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: languages or you know, knill, learning how to knit or

790
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: whatever activity you were supposed to you know, become a

791
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: cook or baked bread. You know, just making it through

792
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: you have become more resilient and even just trying to

793
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: see the Yeah, flip the mindset. Flip the mindset. It's

794
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: a positive thing. It's not always easy, it's not always easy,

795
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: but the people around you, they will help you get

796
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: there when you are in that negative thought spiral. And

797
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: I will tell you if there are negative people around you,

798
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: they will thrive on that. They will thrive on it,

799
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: and they won't help lift you out of it. So

800
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 1: really look a look at yes, people around you, also

801
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: the you know, the thoughts in your own head and

802
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: how they may be holding you back. And and just

803
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: know that it's an ongoing process, right, It's not like

804
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: you know when there's a when there is another you know,

805
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: when I lose my confidence, which will probably happen at

806
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: some point you know down the road, I will be

807
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: able to lean on my support team, you know, support

808
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: system to build me back up. So you have to

809
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: you just just anticipate the life rainy day that it's

810
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: going to happen, you know, and really try to make

811
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: yourself ready for that moment.

812
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh this is great.

813
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: This is a little boost, a little booty boosts, a

814
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: little boost to boost.

815
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, second vaccine dose and I feel okay, I'm I'm,

816
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: I'm pretending like I didn't get it because I just

817
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: don't want to feel I know, you can feel really

818
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: fatigued and like some people get really actually they feel sick.

819
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: But I'm just like just keep going, going, going, go

820
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: to the park, play pretend like when thing's wrong. But

821
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: I'm really I feel so relieved. Yeah, it feels really good.

822
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: It feels like the start of a new a new year.

823
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: If you got to get help.

824
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: Some other people feel good and take some questions.

825
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, I was just about to tell you to

826
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: get your vaccine.

827
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 3: I know, I am going to get my vaccine.

828
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: You're like, no, I am, because I will tell y'all

829
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 2: like I'm started back with IVF and I just called

830
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: my doctor and I was like, should I get it before?

831
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 3: She's like, yes, girl, So I oh I do. Yeah.

832
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: So I'm going to get it in the next couple

833
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: of weeks.

834
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: Because how long do you have to wait between many.

835
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: Like a few weeks. I got mine April fifth, and

836
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: today is April twenty four.

837
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 2: Nobody's there like a minimum amount of time that you

838
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: wait between vas.

839
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's three weeks. I think twenty one days or

840
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: something like that.

841
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: Oh.

842
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: Then I got to hurry up because okay, yeah, so if.

843
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: You're if you're planning like a vacation or something, you

844
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: definitely want to be in the same place for at

845
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: least a few weeks.

846
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: There's something ye yes, no, because I like with like

847
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: it like with like I'm going to cycle right now,

848
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: and like tentatively speaking, there might be implantation like like

849
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: June sixth, So I'm like, I need to get on

850
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 2: it now because I want to have the vaccine.

851
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: Before, you know, before that all goes down.

852
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: Yes, hm, because I don't you know, I won't be

853
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: able to Okay, well, good to know. So I'm like, okay,

854
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna call tomorrow.

855
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: There's a bunch of places in Newark. I think they

856
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 3: even just like have you.

857
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 4: Just go.

858
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: Like it's really easy to get an appointment now, Yes,

859
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: that's what I've heard from different body.

860
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I'm gonna get my first backs latest next

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Speaker 1: I just started listening to your podcast and I love

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Speaker 1: all the content. Thank you. I want to submit a

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Speaker 1: question and hope of getting your input. My fiance and

896
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Speaker 1: I have paid off over sixty thousand dollars of debt

897
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Speaker 1: and have forty thousand dollars left. That's about thirteen thousand,

898
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Speaker 1: seven hundred dollars of student loans and thirty thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: that we have for a truck loan. We want to

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Speaker 1: buy a house in about a year, but we haven't

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Speaker 1: started the saving process since we've been so focused on

902
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Speaker 1: paying off debt. Do y'all think we should continue to

903
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Speaker 1: get our debt total down before saving or just go

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Speaker 1: full on into saving mode? So that's first of all, amazing,

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Speaker 1: sixty thousand dollars of debt down doesn't mention having any

906
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Speaker 1: savings at all, so we don't know if there's like

907
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Speaker 1: if they're building on top of a cash cushion. But

908
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Speaker 1: we can make some assumptions, like let's assume they don't

909
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Speaker 1: have anything saved and are wanting to start from scratch,

910
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: saving from a house. But they have two types of

911
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: debt left thirteen K student loans and thirty k for

912
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Speaker 1: a truck loan with an undisclosed APR.

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Speaker 3: Gonna say, what's the interest rate? I'm assuming the student loans.

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Speaker 2: Let's make the assumption that your student loans are federal,

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Speaker 2: so the interest rate is, like, you know.

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Speaker 1: Relatively now until September, you don't have to pay Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to pay student loans. You don't have

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Speaker 1: to pay federal student loans or an interest stopped has

919
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Speaker 1: stopped accruing thanks to the Cares Act through the end

920
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Speaker 1: of September, so really no one has to pay loans.

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Speaker 1: Let's yeah, we pretend that those are gone. Then it's

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Speaker 1: the thirty k for a truck loan.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, you know, you know how it

924
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Speaker 2: is with trucks, I mean, with them car loans. It

925
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Speaker 2: could go either way. She could be double digits, she

926
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Speaker 2: could be three percent.

927
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Speaker 1: Yeah, sod, no, you got.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

929
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Speaker 2: My stance on debt versus savings. It's never debt versus savings.

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Speaker 2: I feel like me and manny Al was like debt

931
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: and savings, you know, because saving especially because it doesn't

932
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Speaker 2: I mean, we don't know what the APR for the

933
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Speaker 2: for the truck loaners APR your annual percentage, your annual

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Speaker 2: percentage right sentence read.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm like, this are basically the interest rate that

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Speaker 3: you're paying on that truck.

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Speaker 2: My assumption is because you don't have a credit card debt,

938
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Speaker 2: which is great, So I'm assuming you don't have crazy

939
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Speaker 2: interest rates. And even if you did, saving, to me

940
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Speaker 2: is your first line of defense. It's like the lock

941
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Speaker 2: on the door, you know, on the screen door at

942
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 2: that so someone has to bust through the screen door,

943
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: then get to the regular door, then get to the

944
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: chain lock, you know what I mean. And so I

945
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Speaker 2: really I'm a big proponent of having some savings and

946
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: not sacrifice savings just for to get towards that freedom

947
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Speaker 2: that it can happen and should happen at the same time. Now,

948
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Speaker 2: if you're saying that you're wanting to save for paying

949
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 2: down a house to buy a house, now that's different

950
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: because they're saving for like, you know, like emergencies and

951
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 2: saving for goal.

952
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: Because here's my worry.

953
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Speaker 2: Let's just say you're like, oh, hey, I'm gonna save

954
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Speaker 2: as we pay down our loan, and then we also

955
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Speaker 2: save for a house and you're able to get a

956
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Speaker 2: you know, a decent loan for the house. So then

957
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: you use your your savings to buy the house. So

958
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Speaker 2: now you're back at no savings again. So that's a

959
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Speaker 2: concern that you should be like set the house to

960
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Speaker 2: the side for a moment. And if you are going

961
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Speaker 2: to save, I want you to concentrate that you're saving

962
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Speaker 2: for emergencies while also paying down your debt. Now anything,

963
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Speaker 2: you know, anything above and beyond that. You can also

964
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Speaker 2: save two for buying a house. But you shouldn't be

965
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Speaker 2: looking at the savings that you're setting aside just for

966
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Speaker 2: the house. You should also have an emergency fund stashed away,

967
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Speaker 2: especially if you get a house. I mean, Maddy and

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Speaker 2: I will tell you in a minute how things just

969
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Speaker 2: be going haywy are.

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Speaker 3: Like, wait, what do you mean the plumbing? Wait, what

971
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Speaker 3: do you mean?

972
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Speaker 1: Why did you say plumbing? Because that's that's always what

973
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Speaker 1: it is, and it's always before you have a bunch

974
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Speaker 1: of guests over the toilet overflows like it did for

975
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: us that fourth of July last year, the year before that,

976
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars to get someone to unclog it emergency

977
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Speaker 1: on a holiday. Okay, sorry, go ahead.

978
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: No, no, go ahead, no, because you know what I mean. So,

979
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Speaker 2: like I think a lot of people forget that there

980
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: are levels to savings. It's not just savings to eventually

981
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 2: that's like almost like that kind of savings. To me,

982
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: I call it delayed spending. So you save, save, safe, save,

983
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 2: then you use it all for a thing. Well, you've

984
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: just delayed the spending. You also have to save for

985
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: savings sake, meaning save for This is my first line

986
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: of defense. This is a lock on the screen door

987
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: that someone has to get through before the next door

988
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: can be can be breached and the next thing can

989
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: be breached. Like not enough people have enough money set

990
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 2: aside for that. And if twenty twenties panting commercial Pandemonium

991
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: taught us nothing is the value of having like that

992
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 2: first line of defense lined up, No matter how little

993
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: that is, it can give you a little bit of room.

994
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: Panting Commercial that's the name one haven't heard. I was

995
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: gonna say that. You know, if you're not paying your

996
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: student loans anymore, you could divert that payment to savings.

997
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: You know, call it your emergency fund that you're building

998
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: up while you don't have to, while you don't have

999
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: the obligation of paying off your student loans. There's really

1000
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: no incentive right now to make payments on federal student loans.

1001
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: You're not saving any money on interest because there is none,

1002
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: and you don't have to like there's no there's no

1003
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: there's actually a cons to paying them. And the con

1004
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: is that you know, you could potentially be earning more

1005
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: by putting your money elsewhere. Even if it's in a

1006
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: really you know, a regular savings account that has very

1007
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: little interest, it's still more than zero. And also it's

1008
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: giving you that added protection. So if you're going to

1009
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: be putting money toward loans that you don't have to,

1010
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: that you're not paying interest on and not putting it

1011
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: towards savings, that could potentially save you if you, you know,

1012
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: have a financial challenge that pops up, it's just smarter

1013
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: to put it away in savings. It's going to protect you.

1014
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: So you could do that, just divert what you would

1015
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: have been paying towards your student loans to savings. And

1016
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: I would also point out, you know, if you're thinking

1017
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: about taking out a mortgage for your future home and

1018
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: you're talking about saving just for the down payment, they're

1019
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: not going to want to see that this down payment's

1020
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: going to bankrupt you. And they're also going to give

1021
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: you a better rate if you have lower debt to

1022
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: income ratio, which is, you know, how much your monthly

1023
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: debt payments are versus your monthly expenses. So it behooves you,

1024
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: sat word, it behooves you to try to pay, you know,

1025
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: down some debt. And also we have some cash left behind,

1026
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: liquid cash, so that lenders are willing to, you know,

1027
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: let you borrow money at all, or even at a

1028
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: more affordable rate than others. Something to consider. But it's

1029
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: definitely attainable to buy a house, and it sounds like

1030
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: you guys are really good at budgeting. I would just say,

1031
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: less money throwing it away at debt, and more towards

1032
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: that savings fund. Okay, how about this one. We've been

1033
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: getting more and more questions about financial advisors, but this

1034
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: listener says, do you have any recommendations for financial advisors.

1035
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: I started with d R. If you don't know who

1036
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: that is, then well whatever, you don't need to know,

1037
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: forget about it. For if I financial education but realized

1038
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: it helps, but I'm looking for something better. I'm currently

1039
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: working with a quote smart vestor pro quote, which is

1040
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: basically an advisor that follows DR's principles. Any advice or

1041
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: info smart vestor pro.

1042
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: Okay, So I think we both liked did where'd you

1043
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: find Helen? Did you find here?

1044
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: The XY Planning network?

1045
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: Is that where you found oh Helen? Yeah, that was

1046
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 1: years ago. I feel like XY Planning is still around.

1047
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 1: At the time, it was very focused on literally generation

1048
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: X and Y, and it's a network of fee based

1049
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: or it was at the time. Yeah, I'm looking at

1050
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: the Yeah. So all the advisors on their network are fiduciaries,

1051
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: which means they have to work at your best interest,

1052
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: offer virtual services, no commissions. They're not focusing on selling

1053
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: you products like insurance. They have a CFP license. So yeah,

1054
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: it's still around, and that's where I found Helen. But

1055
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: I actually interviewed I think three My husband and I

1056
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 1: reviewed three different people, and we settled on Helen after

1057
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: doing those interviews. But yep, thanks Ye Planning.

1058
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: And there's also one called the National Association of Personal

1059
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: Financial Advisors. It's like NAPFA. And then there's also this

1060
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: fee only network. So if you go this is a

1061
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: slight book plug but not really. But if you go

1062
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 2: to a gigao money dot com, there's this a little

1063
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: button that says GGWM toolkit. So because inside like chapter ten,

1064
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: I talk about picking your money team and how I

1065
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 2: found my financial advisor, So definitely go to xy Planning Network.

1066
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: I put that link there the National Association of Personal

1067
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: Financial Advisors, and there's also the Fee Only Network, but

1068
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: that's not why I want you to go there, because

1069
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 2: you could just go to those websites. I want you

1070
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 2: to go there to click that button because I created

1071
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: this work she called the my soul called financial life template,

1072
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: and I use the template to create like so how

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Speaker 2: I find my financial advisor? Angelin is. I created kind

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00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: of like this template of like my myself, my husband,

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00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: like what our financial life looked like because I found

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00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: myself when I was interviewing people forgetting like oh I

1077
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: forgot to tell them this, and I forgot to tell

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00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: them that. But then once I created this kind of

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00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 2: template for myself. I was able to email it to

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00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: them before we had our talk, so I would not

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00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: forget to say like, oh, by the way, these are

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00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: our goals, this is how much we have saved. It's

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00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: just it was just like such a great like resource.

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00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 2: So yes, go ahead, And meanwhile, I'm clicking it now

1085
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: and I'm like, is it not going Let me just

1086
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 2: tell they no, But.

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00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: That's like a good challenge that you cannot overcome to know.

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00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 3: But no, but I think that that is Yeah.

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00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: I just I think that it's really it's important to

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00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: have some sort of like I don't know, like I

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00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: wanted to have something in front of me so as

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00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: I interviewed them, they could see one.

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00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 3: Because it was like twenty.

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00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 2: People that I reached out to and I gave them

1095
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: kind of like that document so they could disqualify themselves

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00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 2: if I wasn't going to be a fit. And then

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00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 2: other like twenty people I sent it to, like I

1098
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 2: think like maybe like twelve, we're like, oh yes, And

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00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: then I ended up whittling it down to Angeli. But

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00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: she had so much of the information that she that

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00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: she normally would ask was in that doc and it

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00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 2: just was so helpful so I suggest that that, yes,

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Speaker 2: my soul called financial life it is. It was such

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00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 2: a like like I said that Doc really.

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00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 3: Just was everything.

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Speaker 1: So check that out. We'll put that link in our

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Speaker 1: show notes. Cool. All right, well, thank y'all so much

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Speaker 1: for your questions. Hit us up Brandnambission Podcast at gmail

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00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: dot com and you can find us all up in

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00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: the socials, but especially on Instagram these days. Brand Ambisson

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Speaker 1: Podcast on ig No.

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Speaker 4: But okay, and now it's time to boost break or

1113
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 4: boost a break or booze.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me look at my little blacumen to

1115
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: see what do I have hair? So I wanted to

1116
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: did we ever talk about Patriese colors and like the

1117
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 2: trouble that she was having with them? No, we have not,

1118
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 2: So I want to boost for Chese colors. Anyway, She's

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00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 2: one of the co founders of Black Lives Matter, and

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00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: unfortunately a lot of news outlets, including unfortunately black news outlets,

1121
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 2: were dragging her for having the audacity to earn an income.

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00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: It was truly asine.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so I mean, and I mean I'm trying to

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00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: separate because I know Patrice and I have like I

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00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: remember or like a Black Lives Matters had been awarded

1126
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: with the Sydney Peace Prize, which is super prestigious peace prize,

1127
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 2: and I went to Australia and I went with her

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00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: to Australia when she was she was accepting it on

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00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 2: behalf of Black Lives Matter. And when I tell you

1130
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: the I don't know that I know anybody that is

1131
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 2: more passionate about black lives, you know than Patrice and

1132
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 2: how she is dedicated literally her life and puts her

1133
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 2: life on the line. Like the number of like death

1134
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 2: threats and the number of just like it's crazy how

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00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 2: they come for that woman. And so people were mad

1136
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 2: because they're like, what, you have a house in California. Meanwhile,

1137
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: that's worth I don't remember what it was like, you know,

1138
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 2: five hundred thousand dollars or one point two million dollars.

1139
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 2: I don't think people understand if you don't live on

1140
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 2: the coast, My little rinky dink house in Newark, New

1141
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 2: Jersey is worth about four point fifty.

1142
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Speaker 3: It's not something special.

1143
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: I mean it's a nice que house, but meaning that

1144
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 2: on the coast, what's one point two million dollars in

1145
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 2: California looks like a regular house. Like I saw that

1146
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,479
Speaker 2: house I was like, this is what y'all mad at.

1147
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: It's because of where, because of coastal living is.

1148
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 3: Way more expensive.

1149
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 2: You're like, do you understand, Like there are people in

1150
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: New York who's literal, you know, one bedroom, two bedroom

1151
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: apartment might be six thousand dollars and it doesn't look

1152
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 2: like it looks like a college dorm room. Like, so

1153
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 2: what is relatively expensive to like, you know, in the

1154
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 2: Midwest is not expensive. I mean it is expensive, but

1155
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 2: that you're just not going to get anything less than that,

1156
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 2: especially in California. I mean New York, New Jersey's already bad,

1157
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: but California is literally insane. And Patrese is an author.

1158
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 2: Her book I remember when we were because I had

1159
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 2: met her at Essence Fest at first, and I remember

1160
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 2: she had just written a book, When They Call You

1161
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 2: a Terrorist, a New York Times bestseller. It sold tons

1162
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: of copies. I can tell you someone who got a

1163
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 2: book deal. I promise you her book there was bigger

1164
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 2: than mine, and mine was just under seven figures me

1165
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 2: with my first like and so Patrice who was huge.

1166
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: I mean, she's still huge, but at that time, so

1167
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 2: I can only imagine what her book deal was.

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00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 3: So let's get that clear too.

1169
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: Like Patrese is an artist, she has she's had all

1170
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 2: of these other ways to bring an income for herself,

1171
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: we cannot ask the people who serve us to also

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00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: be a martyr for brokeness. Like you already y'all already

1173
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: know I'm not with it, Like I'm here to be

1174
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 2: the budgetista to serve my community assists wants to be

1175
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: wealthy as well, because like I don't.

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00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 3: I just like I'm done with that.

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00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: Like when I first started my business, I thought that

1178
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I don't want to charge and I

1179
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 2: don't want this because I ought not to have because

1180
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: if I'm going to be of service, that's garbage. The

1181
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: more that I have, I pour from my overflow, the

1182
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 2: more resources that I have, the better I show up

1183
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: for y'all.

1184
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 3: Because I'm not broke.

1185
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: Is why I'm able to do so much for free,

1186
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: because I'm not worried about money, and so I just

1187
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 2: wanted that to be It's almost like a boosty breaky

1188
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 2: a boost for Patrese, but a break for y'all. Tried it,

1189
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: not y'all, but y'all, that like asking our leaders to

1190
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: suffer in brokeness and then you know some of these

1191
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 2: very outlets putting her address online. I mean she already

1192
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 2: was receiving death threats, putting her life in her family

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00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: at risk. I just when she has already put her

1194
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: life on the line in response to Black Lives Matter

1195
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: one like, so if you like, there's this great. His

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00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: name is Matt McGrory m A T T mc g

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00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 2: o O r Y on Instagram, and I love it

1198
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 2: because he posted this letter a statement on false and

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00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: dangerous stories, right so, he he said. The following statement

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00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 2: is issued by Black Lives Matter Global the Foundation in

1201
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 2: response to the false and defamatory thefamatory the famatory article

1202
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: being amplified by right wing media. Patrise Culors is the

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00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: executive director of Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation. She

1204
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: serves in this role in a volunteer capacity. This is

1205
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 2: from Global Black Lives Matter does not receive a salary

1206
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 2: or benefits. Patrese has received a total of one hundred

1207
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: and twenty thousand dollars since the organization's inception in twenty

1208
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 2: thirteen is now twenty twenty one. He wrote this April twelve,

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00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. How many years is that, Mandy?

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00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: That is, when was it founded? Just twenty thirteen seven,

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00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: eight years, eight years.

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00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 2: So what is one hundred twenty thousand dollars divided by

1213
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: eight years?

1214
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 3: Let me let's do to that.

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00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: It's not very much. It's less than ten thousand dollars

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00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: a year.

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00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 2: I mean. And so if this says for duties such

1218
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 2: as serving as a spokesperson and engaging in political education work,

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00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: Patrese did not receive any compensation after twenty nineteen, stop

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00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 2: to be abundantly clear, it says as a register of

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00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 2: four oh one ced three that this organization cannot and

1222
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 2: did not commit any organizational resources towards the purchase of

1223
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 2: personal property by any employer volunteer. I mean, I just

1224
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 2: And he goes on to say Patresa's work for black

1225
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: people over the years has made her and others who

1226
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 2: are aligned with the Fight for Black Liberation targets for

1227
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 2: racist violence. So it's just really really because I can

1228
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 2: see in her face because for terrees, honestly, if you

1229
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 2: despite all the bs, she is funny and joyful and lighthearted,

1230
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: I mean, she is silly. And to see her like

1231
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: fighting for her life on insu like I've messaged her

1232
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 2: several times and just make sure she's okay, but to

1233
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: see I can see the fear in her face, and

1234
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 2: I see a little bit of the light dim because

1235
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 2: she's expecting us from the right wing, but from her

1236
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 2: own people coming for her. It's unconscionable and I just

1237
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 2: can't imagine putting my life on the line for the

1238
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: very folks who are now putting my life in danger

1239
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: because of lies. And so I just wanted to give

1240
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 2: her an extra If you want to read it for yourself,

1241
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 2: I encourage you to do so. Matt m at t

1242
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 2: mc g O r R Y on his Insta It

1243
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 2: was posted on like I think, like I don't know,

1244
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 2: like in April some time, but you can go and

1245
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 2: read that letter. I think it's important for everybody to

1246
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 2: see it, to read it. And yeah, she is just

1247
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 2: an incredible woman who despite all of this still stands

1248
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 2: in service to black people.

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01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: So this story, I mean, I texted you tip when

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01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: I saw it, I was like, what the absolute like

1251
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: what it was?

1252
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 4: It was.

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01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm still so angry on her behalf, because there is

1254
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: this expectation, especially if you're a black woman, that you're

1255
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: not that you're supposed to give everything but not get anything.

1256
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: That the image of you. They want to see is

1257
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: someone who is on their knees crying because their son

1258
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: or brother or husband or nephew was killed, or you know,

1259
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: or with a handout, you know, looking for something they

1260
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: don't want to see you succeed. And it is really

1261
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: sad proof that there is still a lot of audience

1262
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: out there who wants to proliferate this image of black women,

1263
01:01:56,040 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: black people, you know, suffering but not thriving, and especially

1264
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: for someone who's given so much. I was. I don't

1265
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: even know Patrice, but I was offended on her behalf.

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01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: And so I'm glad you. I'm really glad you brought

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01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: this up. And as a former journalist, I will tell

1268
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: you it was the It was the wackiest, thinnest piece

1269
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: of internet crap I've like garbage. And as a as

1270
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: a as anyone who even has a moticum of journalism

1271
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: education would never have published that story. And I'm really

1272
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: sad for a black journalists because you know, as any

1273
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: black professional, when you're out there in the world, you're

1274
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: you have such a razor thin margin margin for error.

1275
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: So when one of us, as a black journalist, as

1276
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: a black journalist out there posting filth like that and

1277
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: nonsense with terrible sourcing or lack of sourcing and no

1278
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: story at all, like even a tiny bit of fact

1279
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: checking could have found there was no truth to this.

1280
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: When you publish that, you you know you're making it

1281
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: harder for other black journalists to be taken seriously. And

1282
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: so that is what I'm offended by. She made me

1283
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: want to like do a talk at the next National

1284
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: Association and Black Journalist conference, like we got to do

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Speaker 1: better out here, and yeah, it was pure, pure garbage.

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Speaker 1: And I hope that a lot of people out there

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Speaker 1: are are smart enough to look at where stories like

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01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: that come from on the internet and question it and

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01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: and be critical and think critically about stories that we

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Speaker 1: hear about our leadership, because they they when you succeed

1291
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: as a black woman, that's when they're most fearful of you,

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01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: and that is when they start putting out lies to

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Speaker 1: bring you down. And even though I don't know her,

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01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: I feel like that could be me. That could be

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01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure it has been Tiffany. People don't want to

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01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: see Tiffany do well, you know they want they they like,

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Speaker 1: especially when it's your peers. I'm sure there's there's people

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01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: who who you know we're talking about earlier, would rather

1299
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: see you struggle to make themselves feel better. And anyway,

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01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: I my heart goes out to Patrice. I hope she's okay.

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01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: She has done such good work, and go and get

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01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: your house's girl, get all the houses you every right

1303
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: to get your house is how many billionaires? Like do

1304
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: you want to talk about? How many billionaires give away

1305
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: money to nonprofits and all their philanthropic good deeds and

1306
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: then turn around and you know, drive gas guzzling cars

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01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: and have the audacity to go shopping for expensive things

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01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: and have watches and jets and stuff like. Get out

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01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: of here. Like it's just complete and utter nonsense. And

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01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: she did not deserve it for a minute. And I

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01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: hope that she I hope that the light has not

1312
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: dimmed for too long because she has done so much

1313
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: good work and she needs all the support that she deserves.

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01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: Right now, what was my booth going to be?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: I know, hold on my computer just died. I went

1317
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: away well really quick, because that was I joined in

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01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: on that one. But I wanted to shout out things.

1319
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to shout out this young woman, and I

1320
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: wanted to shout this out, Tiffany, because I can't stop

1321
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: thinking about your nephew Roman and how he just has

1322
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: this big kid genius energy, big like I mean, he

1323
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: was just fascinating to watch. I could have just I

1324
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: didn't want to be weird, but I was just like

1325
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: really wanting to observe him. He's a mathematical genius. And

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01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: I saw this story about a young girl who's twelve

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01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: and how she's attending college this year. Her name's Elena Wicker,

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01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: and she's soon to be college student, and she wants

1329
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: to be the youngest black woman to ever work for NASA,

1330
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: and she was recently featured in People magazine, and I

1331
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: just wanted to share this little, this little bit of

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01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: black excellence. And her mother, Diane mccordter, said one of

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01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: the signs that her child was gifted was she would

1334
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: always organize legos by color and by size and very strategic,

1335
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: and if you took one of her legos out of

1336
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: the set, she knew one of them was missing. But

1337
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: that she's still goofy and she's always you know, she's

1338
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: had a sense of humor, but would like build these

1339
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: crazy you know, like the millennium falcon out of legos

1340
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: and like all these things. So shout out to Elena

1341
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: and Black Girl Excellence, and also shout out to Roman

1342
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: because I feel like he might be like people dot

1343
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: com Black excellent story one day.

1344
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: I always like I used to because you know, teaching

1345
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: for so long, I used to always like the joke

1346
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 2: was that ain't no regular baby. That's what I would

1347
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 2: always say him like he was one and a half

1348
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 2: talk about octagon oval. I'm like what I used to

1349
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 2: tell her. I'm like, mm, sis, I ain't no regular baby,

1350
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 2: because you know that was her first and she's like,

1351
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, don't want in a half year olds

1352
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 2: name all the shapes. I'm like, no, and if they do,

1353
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 2: they certainly don't know octagons from hexagons.

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Speaker 3: Sis.

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01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 2: No, And like even now, like you know, Roman is

1356
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 2: telling time. I didn't not have to tell time until

1357
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 2: I was like in fifth or sixth grade.

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01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:41,439
Speaker 3: He's five. Yeah, he's telling time.

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01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 2: He's doing multiplication and addition reading like all these like

1360
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 2: signs like we wu walk down the street. I was like,

1361
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like he's gonna read the first two lines.

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01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 2: It was like no, it said something like it was

1363
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 2: like a parking site. No, parking police. Try this boy,

1364
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 2: no parking police towing. I'm like, cause he never heard

1365
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 2: of towing. But he's like, I can sound it out

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01:06:59,080 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 2: at five.

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01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

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01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 2: So I always tell her I adn't no regular baby

1369
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 2: because she was worried. Because for you parents, if you

1370
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 2: are not up on number blocks and alpha blocks on Netflix,

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01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 2: cis you late? It is as a teacher, I'm telling

1372
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 2: you want.

1373
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:19,439
Speaker 1: To feel attacked because I'm still on Sesame Street again

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Speaker 1: one more time.

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01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 2: Number number of blocks and alpha blocks. So it is

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01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 2: they whoever made it. They are educational geniuses because what

1377
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: this show is like so basically they have turned letters

1378
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 2: and numbers into superheroes. You so kids feel like they're

1379
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 2: watching one of these superhero shows, but really they are.

1380
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 2: They are showing you how to count attract. So it

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01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 2: gets with every episode, it gets more complex. In the beginning,

1382
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 2: you're just doing letters, and then sounds and then words

1383
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 2: and then sentences. So each episode gets more and more complex.

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01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 2: But they do it in such a way that you

1385
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: feel like you're watching like, you know, like Power Rangers,

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01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 2: because the actual numbers and the letters. So there's two

1387
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 2: separate shows number blocks and then there's an Alpha blocks

1388
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 2: that they they take on the persona of like different

1389
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: like I said, superheroes, but it's so well done. And

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Speaker 2: the repetitiveness, I mean, I like, I'm I'm picking up

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01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 2: everything they're putting down. I'm like, ooh, like a million

1392
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: when she was three, just like a few months ago.

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01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 2: Do you know how hard a concept it is for

1394
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 2: a kid to understand zero? Like, think about that many

1395
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 2: Like how do you explain zero to a two year

1396
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 2: old or a three year old?

1397
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 1: And so it's me straight they show you that cookie

1398
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: has no cookies.

1399
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 2: I can tell you, and that's so, but it's still

1400
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 2: really harder of a concept because kids understand numbers. And

1401
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 2: so the other day I was saying something and then

1402
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: he was like, I'm sad there's zero.

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01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 3: There's zero left.

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01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 2: I looked at her, like my sister was like, girl,

1405
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 2: damn alpha black, those damn number blocks. But I just

1406
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 2: I share that that because it's been such a great

1407
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 2: you know, in the world wherever I get it, Like

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01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: my sister used to be really big on like you know,

1409
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 2: not too much screen time a girl pandemic. It was like,

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01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 2: where are your number blocks?

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01:08:58,680 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: Yep?

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01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 5: Yes, So I was like, you know, tell her to

1413
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 5: check out the guy on YouTube who excavates for a living,

1414
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 5: which is where you just dig up dirt and move

1415
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 5: it to other places hypnotizes my child send me.

1416
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 3: A lake because I will.

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01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 1: I don't know who it is. I used to roll

1418
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 1: my eyes, but I will walk in the living room

1419
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 1: and my husband always watches this guy and he and

1420
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: Rio are on the couch just dead staring watching the

1421
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: sky dig up gravel and it goes a full hour.

1422
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 1: My toddler did not move. I don't know if he's

1423
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 1: learning anything, but he likes to. He screams at equipment

1424
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: now when he sees it on the side.

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01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 3: Of the d but that means he's recognizing it.

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01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No.

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01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 2: I just think that, like, there's are some shows that

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01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 2: are so well done and that is number of blocks

1429
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 2: and alpha blocks there. Like I started following them on

1430
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 2: Insta just to be like, thank you so much all

1431
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 2: that you've taught my niece and nephew. It's just great programming.

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01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 2: But no, who like.

1433
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: It's protect that one. The force is strong with him.

1434
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 2: I tell my sister, my girl, we will all be

1435
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,839
Speaker 2: working for his whatever company.

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01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: But Mimi keeps it spicy. She keeps it like you know,

1437
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: She's like, dude.

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01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 2: That's what we call a millia mamie. She keeps it

1439
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 2: allways spicy like girls. She feel like Roman, we're here

1440
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 2: to have fun you and this. She does like Alpha

1441
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 2: blocks too, but she definitely is the He's the Chucky

1442
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 2: and she's the Tommy of a rug Rats, like you know, exploratory,

1443
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,879
Speaker 2: having a good time. And Roman's like, oh, I guess,

1444
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 2: and like literally he'll build a thing and she will

1445
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 2: just be like, I'm gonna tip it over, okay.

1446
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 3: Roman, He's like dupe.

1447
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, exactly, no, But I'm just I'm just honestly,

1448
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 2: it was nice to have like you like here in

1449
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 2: my space. I'm like, oh, just fit right in. It

1450
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 2: was just like nice just to like hang out. I'm

1451
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 2: like on the couch just talking like adults and having

1452
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 2: a good time.

1453
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: It was a very warm and beautiful homie. You know,

1454
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 1: I loved it. I feel like, you know, it was

1455
01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: it filled my cup as they say, filled my cup up.

1456
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: And I was really low that day. So thank you,

1457
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 1: Thank you again, and to your sister Tracy and just Superman.

1458
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: I hope his movie Theater in the Basement is coming

1459
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: along well. Excited to hit him up at the twin

1460
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,799
Speaker 1: Is that what the speakeasy is called. Yeah, twins place,

1461
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: Twins place, Okay, twins place the speak that's gonna be fun.

1462
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I hope we can do. I'm like,

1463
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 1: what am I gonna see whatever? You guys will see

1464
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 1: the pictures, So I guess I'll see you get in

1465
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 1: six years, Tiffany update another time. All right, y'all, we'll

1466
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:38,600
Speaker 1: take care. Have a good week. Check us out on

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01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,879
Speaker 1: Thursday with the nineteenth hit up our show notes to register,

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01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: It's free, so show up and show out for BA.

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Speaker 3: Yes,