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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to my favorite murder. The minisodes read.

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Speaker 2: You your stuff. You send us emails, so we got

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Speaker 2: to read them.

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Speaker 1: You just keep doing it. Okay, you want to go first?

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Speaker 2: Yeat? Okay, all right, this one's called request for Items

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Speaker 2: Found in the Wall, and I have to show you

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Speaker 2: a photo halfway through. Okay, Hey, Karen and Georgia, you

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Speaker 2: guys asked for what did you find in the walls

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Speaker 2: on the rewind episode of ninety seven, and I immediately

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Speaker 2: knew I had one. A few years ago, I bought

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Speaker 2: a house built in nineteen twenty one just south of Dallas, Texas.

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Speaker 2: The man who owned it before me, Burrel the hell

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Speaker 2: Sacha great name, was basically a local legend. He started

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Speaker 2: the neighborhood association and had lived in the house forever

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Speaker 2: when he and his wife so to me, he was

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Speaker 2: ninety nine and she was ninety three, and they were

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Speaker 2: still walking up and down the stairs every day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm convinced the Fountain of Youth is hidden somewhere

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Speaker 2: in that house.

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Speaker 1: It's on those stairs, yet stairs, get the stairs going

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Speaker 1: on every day.

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Speaker 2: The property itself is kind of wild. When the house

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Speaker 2: was originally sold in the nineteen twenties. It came with

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty acres. Now it's surrounded by neighborhoods,

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Speaker 2: but it still feels like this tiny, surviving piece of

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Speaker 2: old South Dallas history. People would randomly stop by because

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Speaker 2: Burle had lived there for so long. I'd be outside

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Speaker 2: watering the plants or hauling construction debris, and people would

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Speaker 2: look at me and go, you're not Burl. Anyway. I

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Speaker 2: started renovating the house while also working on a construction

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Speaker 2: job with insane hours. The entire place was torn apart,

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Speaker 2: plaster dust everywhere, walls open, exposed framing, so I was

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Speaker 2: basically living in a haunted construction zone. One night, I

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Speaker 2: came home super late and noticed something sitting on the

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Speaker 2: top shelf of my shoe rack. It was a doll,

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Speaker 2: a baby doll with wild hair, one eye half open,

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Speaker 2: absolutely no pants. Apparently my electrician had found her inside

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Speaker 2: the walls earlier that day. We affectually named her Tricksy.

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Speaker 2: Now I can't just read the rest of this she

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Speaker 2: because it sounds so normal. You have to see what

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Speaker 2: this fucking doll looks like, okay, so here's the picture

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Speaker 2: of the doll. Oh no, it is like no arms.

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Speaker 2: Its face is just burnt to a crisp. It's just

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Speaker 2: it looks sacrificial. Yeah right, yeah, it's not a chill

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Speaker 2: little baby doll.

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Speaker 1: It is like, well, els, it's a baby doll wearing

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Speaker 1: no clothes in no arms is a bad combination.

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Speaker 2: Really, And it's someone cut all the hair off and

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Speaker 2: burned her face.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's which is pretty typical for leg dolls and

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Speaker 1: children whatever. But yeah, to if I were the person

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Speaker 1: and the electrician did that funny joke and put that

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Speaker 1: in this town again.

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Speaker 2: Well. Oh, from that point on, Trixie became part of

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Speaker 2: the construction crew. Every day somebody moved her to a

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Speaker 2: somewhere before leaving for work. Nathan, the electrician would move

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Speaker 2: her again. Later you'd open a cabinet and Trixie would

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Speaker 2: be there and see, this isn't as scary without knowing

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Speaker 2: what the fucking doll looks like. Right right, turn around

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Speaker 2: in a dark hallway, Tricksy sitting in a wheelbarrow, tricksy.

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Speaker 2: Multiple contractors assured me the house was not cursed and

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Speaker 2: that the spirits were happy here, which honestly felt like

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Speaker 2: a very specific thing to hear from grown men covered

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Speaker 2: in plaster dust, Like why do you have to say,

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Speaker 2: how do you know about the spirits? Totally?

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Speaker 1: Is this the thing you do all the time.

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Speaker 2: At the very end of the renovation, we built out

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Speaker 2: a new master bedroom. One day I realized I hadn't

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Speaker 2: seen Trixy for a while. Turns out one of us

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Speaker 2: had left her sitting on some framing lumber, and the

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Speaker 2: framers unknowingly sealed her directly back into the walls of

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Speaker 2: the house, back where she fucking came from. So somewhere

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Speaker 2: inside my beautiful, restored nineteen twenty one home, Trixie is

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Speaker 2: still there, waiting patiently to absolutely terrorize another homeowner sixty

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Speaker 2: or seventy years from now when they decide to renovate,

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Speaker 2: Stay Sexy, don't get murdered by the old house and

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Speaker 2: spend way too much money restoring it, Laurel.

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Speaker 1: I mean, those framers need a good talking too, because

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Speaker 1: but that's a major decision to be like, we're putting

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but just the knowledge that she's there for the

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Speaker 2: rest of your time. You go to bed, good night, tricksy.

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Speaker 1: But like, if everyone is insisting that the vibes were

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Speaker 2: If the vibes the construction workers will tell you that

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Speaker 2: shit where chit keeps happening? For sure? Right? Yes, so

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Speaker 1: You would feel like they would be there, going.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, we were working a lot of houses. This

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Speaker 2: one we're not coming back.

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Speaker 1: Never seen a ladder fall like that before, so creepy. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: it's tis the season, so I'm going to read you

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Speaker 1: a graduation party story. Dad's ingrats on all month long.

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Speaker 1: The subject line of this email is an unforgettable graduation

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Speaker 1: party and it says, hello, all this story has everything snakes,

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Speaker 1: things and walls and drunk kids. Sorry, it's all our stuff.

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Speaker 1: To set the scene, my family went to a family

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Speaker 1: friend's high school graduation party in two thousand and six.

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Speaker 1: We were some of the first people to arrive, only

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Speaker 1: to find the mom pretty frantic, but not in the

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Speaker 1: I'm not quite ready to host this party type of way.

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Speaker 1: You mean every single time I host parties? Why was

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Speaker 1: she frantic, you ask because the family's pet snake, Missus Alligator,

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Speaker 2: Missus Alligator such a good name.

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Speaker 1: And then the next paragraph starts, Yes, the snake was

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Speaker 1: named Missus Alligator's so good. That's what happens when you

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Speaker 1: let an eight to ten year old boy get a

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Speaker 1: snake and name it. Oh so funny. It was unknown

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Speaker 1: how long Missus Alligator had been missing, but the lid

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Speaker 1: was off her tank and she was nowhere to be seen. No,

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Speaker 1: we were told not to spread this news.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: So good. It's the perfect little yeah variable to mix

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Speaker 1: in before this party.

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Speaker 2: Here's how it starts.

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Speaker 1: Is the snake in the punch bowl. Let's find out.

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Speaker 2: Snake in the toilet.

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Speaker 1: I told I know, I've told you this, But we

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Speaker 1: and I had to stop because you know, there's nothing

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Speaker 1: and I do use one of those porta potties that

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Speaker 1: so I went in. I was like, oh, this is

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Speaker 1: I've never forgiven him.

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Speaker 2: I would have fucking squatted in the field.

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Speaker 1: I mean, or just right out of the parking lot. Sure, okay,

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Speaker 1: so snake variable worst case scenario. Don't spread it around,

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Speaker 1: so she didn't leave the house, is what they were

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Speaker 1: going to pick her up or go near her. Since

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Speaker 1: the party was catered by a Mexican restaurant, there was

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Speaker 1: also a frozen margerita machine set up for the adults.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is awesome. Well, my dad decided

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm buzz kill.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say it's a good thing my dad isn't

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Speaker 1: dad got so drunk and on the way home my

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Speaker 1: mom had to pull over on the interstate twice for

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Speaker 1: him to be sick.

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Speaker 2: Oh God.

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Speaker 1: So he was just like glug glug Jimmy, buffetting as

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Speaker 1: he got his.

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Speaker 2: Arms, singing along with the margarita.

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Speaker 1: He passed his test so good. And I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what congratuate relations. Yeah, you know how you get in

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Speaker 1: here with me? Sneaky sneaks because everyone loves a happy ending.

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Speaker 2: Missus.

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Speaker 1: Alligator was found a day or two after the party

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Speaker 1: drum roll please in the wall in the wall meeting

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Speaker 1: with Trixy. Technically she was curled up in an air

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Speaker 1: conditioning duct, but those are in walls. And then it's

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Speaker 1: this little winky emoticon. Stay sexy and just let the

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Speaker 1: kids get drunk, Jenny.

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Speaker 2: I have so many questions, like what kind of snake

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Speaker 2: was it? Could it have hurt someone at the party.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that they let like eight

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Speaker 1: to ten year old boys keep poisonous snakes. Fair enough,

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Speaker 1: that's for college guys that love metal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's true, don't you think? Yes? But like I

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Speaker 2: can imagine Vince had a party like he would have

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Speaker 2: screamed and ran. It's oh same, like if a spider

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Speaker 2: got out, I'd be like, I'm not coming to your

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Speaker 2: house again. Bye, good fuck good fuck yourself, goodbye and good.

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Speaker 1: Goodbye and good fuck yourself.

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Speaker 2: Pay stop. Okay, that's what's called. It's me. I'm the

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Speaker 2: Vatican City listener.

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Speaker 1: Hi. Oh my god, when say it? Whenna?

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Speaker 2: When it's not? Chick?

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Speaker 1: No, no, look Spanish, I told you we needed to

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Speaker 1: Be the pope. What if this is from the postozy squozy.

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Speaker 2: City Listener, or at least one of them, and I'm

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Speaker 1: of my mom Karen's birthday, Karen with a sea I

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Speaker 1: never see that. I'm writing to tell you about the

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Speaker 1: time my grandma Eva saved her family from a fire

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Speaker 1: in the winter of nineteen thirty nine. My great grandparents

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Speaker 1: Oh we lost Eva and my three other grandparents before

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Speaker 1: It's so so older sister, I love it. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for all you do. And happy birthday, mom, Stay sexy

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Speaker 2: Kelsey, Oh my god, what a like that story could

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Speaker 1: I could have sworn there was a box of clean

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Like, sorry, talk so much shit on big sisters.

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Speaker 1: I know you're pretty good sometimes.

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Speaker 2: So I'm sure my sister's saved my life a couple

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, it's also Pride Month. Oh so it says

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Speaker 2: I can't be the only one a Pride Month story? Yes, okay, hello, ladies,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go ahead and put a couch in this kitchen.

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Speaker 2: Oh nice.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the idea. It's just like, help as many

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Speaker 2: Right, But to also do it because you're a nice person,

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, just almost like you could be a nice

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Speaker 2: I would often find myself walking past a woman walking alone.

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Speaker 2: mean you no harm message, because who would ever hurt

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Speaker 2: this is common gay knowledge. I love you guys in

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Speaker 2: and do the Naomi Campbell walk, happy pride. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: I love that, just to be like it's like, I'm

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: I saw someone say somewhere on social media someone said

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Speaker 2: I soon the one that were like they're like, hey,

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Speaker 2: I love your dress, and the girls like fuck you,

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Speaker 1: That's so nice. Oh that's so funny. It must be

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Speaker 1: Hello Karen, Georgia and pets. Every Thanksgiving, my family would

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Speaker 1: He would always leave Wednesday in the middle of the

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Speaker 1: looked exactly the same, so when we pulled into the

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Speaker 1: We knew the routine after years of making the drive

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Speaker 1: Top carrier. I remember thinking Grandpa looks taller, but continued

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Speaker 1: dad at two in the morning. He looked identical to

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Speaker 1: my grandpa except for height, down to the way he stood,

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Speaker 1: his sleepy expression, mustache, balding gray hair, big belly, and

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Speaker 1: even that thick Southern accent. Oh my god, my sister

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Speaker 1: whispered to my mom. Brett went inside so good. My

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Speaker 1: mom almost became a trash parent and told her to

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Speaker 1: walked up to the man, quickly explained and went into

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Speaker 2: Like standing down everything, like what the this is weird?

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Speaker 1: Itmells weird down here. We didn't even bother to buckle

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Speaker 1: up as we backed out and drove our and drove

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Speaker 1: over two doors to my grandma. We laughed about it

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Speaker 1: all Thanksgiving break. My grandparents told us later that those

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Speaker 1: people were also expecting their family late that same night

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Speaker 1: and had just moved in a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow.

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Speaker 1: We never talked to the people during the years we

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Speaker 1: went to Kentucky for Thanksgiving until summer of twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: when my grandpa passed away. We were at the entrance

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Speaker 1: elderly gentleman introduced himself and his wife to us. We

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Speaker 1: quickly learned that it was my grandpa's doppelganger. We exchanged

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Speaker 1: the story from our different perspectives and learned that they too,

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Speaker 1: tell this story all the time. My best friend Katrina

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Speaker 1: and I saw you at the second show in Chicago

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Speaker 1: in November. We had an amazing time. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: never failing to make us laugh SSDGM Sarah.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: That is such a great legendary family story of like

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Speaker 1: such a great example and it's both directions exactly.

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Speaker 2: That's like the best part is, like how do they

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Speaker 2: tell the story?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so good, so good.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a story from your perspective, send it

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Speaker 2: to us at my Favorite Murder at gmail. But thanks

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Speaker 2: for listening. And happy pride and happy grads and dads.

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Speaker 1: Happy pride, gay power. Yeah, stay sexy.

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Speaker 2: And don't get murdered.

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Speaker 2: is Tessa Hughes.

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