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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 2: This episode of the Real Housewives of Orange County gave

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Speaker 2: me all the fields, good, bad, and different. I'm confused,

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Speaker 2: I'm lost.

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Speaker 1: I'm dazed, but I'm not naked, and I'm here with

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Speaker 1: my girl, Alexis Ballino.

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Speaker 2: Hello, how are you gorgeous? I'm good.

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Speaker 3: I think this is the first time I've ever podcasted

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Speaker 3: with you when you didn't have glasses on.

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Speaker 4: Jackson, you know.

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Speaker 2: You know what's my buddy.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that you and the ray

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Speaker 1: jobs who are watching this on YouTube get to see

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Speaker 1: my eyes because.

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Speaker 2: These are the I don't have a live detective.

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Speaker 1: Test, hey, Emily, but what I do have are my

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Speaker 1: eyes to tell you my truth serum perfect.

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Speaker 4: Okay, now I know what.

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Speaker 1: Oh so let's just get right into this crazy ass episode.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Alexis. We have to talk about the scene

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Speaker 1: that pretty much popened up the episode, which is the

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Speaker 1: eighth housewife who finally made her debut on the Real

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Speaker 1: house Watch Sports County after being mentioned in every single

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Speaker 1: episode since episode one. Gretchen and Gina sent her down

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Speaker 1: and immediately they.

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Speaker 2: Talked to her about what Katie has alleged since the

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Speaker 2: start of the season, which is the fact that.

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Speaker 1: Katie allegedly told Keiki Monique thinks about Gretchen things that

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Speaker 1: we found out on this episode about Gina that we

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Speaker 1: have to get into. But first that Gretchen did tell

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Speaker 1: Keiki Monique that after naked Wasted seventeen eighteen years ago,

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Speaker 1: that she went to the hospital and Kikimo Nique said,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what she was told. Are you surprised that

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Speaker 1: Katie has been found out to be a liar once

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Speaker 1: again and again and again and again.

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Speaker 3: Well no, because I mean, obviously I didn't realize the

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Speaker 3: and she's still carrying that story on.

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Speaker 1: But does she Alexis is, so after you debunked it

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Speaker 4: On this on this episode?

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Speaker 5: She did.

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Speaker 3: She took the light of test on this episode about

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Speaker 3: it and said, you know, the person the examiner asked,

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Speaker 4: And maybe she said no because she didn't send it

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's how she got out, or no, she did

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Speaker 3: lie about it. It was found to be a lie. Actually,

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Speaker 3: But I mean, I'm wondering Katie's mind if she thinks

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Speaker 3: don't know either way we.

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Speaker 4: Got anyway we talk about it. It's like Katie keeps.

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Speaker 3: Getting caught, and I just wonder if she, after she

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Speaker 3: I need to do something about this, you know, episode

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Speaker 3: Yeah that Katie. That did tell Katie that she was

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Speaker 4: Thought she got roofed. I do think that happened. What

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Speaker 1: So you okay, so rain jobs. You know how we

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Speaker 1: recap episodes. We're not going to go see by thing

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Speaker 1: because who gives a ship. Let's just have an overall conversation.

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Speaker 2: About this episode.

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Speaker 1: Right last week, you and I converse and I said, look,

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Speaker 1: I love Gretchen my gut and base from what I'm watching,

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Speaker 1: I do believe Gretchen told Katie this information.

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Speaker 1: Tess happened, and if interestings, I'm gonna be very honest,

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Speaker 1: and I love all the girls, but I gotta be

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Speaker 2: I was not surprised. So with that being said, when

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Speaker 2: Gretchen passed the like.

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Speaker 2: So the fact that Gretchen path of blind colors, I'm like, alexis,

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Speaker 2: What do we make of this? I'm confused here.

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Speaker 4: There's two things to this. First, First of all, I'm

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Speaker 4: a Dateline kind of sewer.

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Speaker 3: Okay, like I don't want it now because I don't

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Speaker 3: have time, but especially over COVID, Oh honey, I went

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Speaker 4: Anyway, there is a known.

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Speaker 3: Fact on Dateline, and I'm not a detective, but they

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Speaker 3: do say that a sociopath is the only person that

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Speaker 3: can pass with flying colors of any of any light

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Speaker 3: detector test. Okay, because even the most honest person still

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Speaker 3: flubs up and their heart races the little or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Only those of your paths. So take that information with

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Speaker 4: what you want, and thank you Dateline for you know,

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Speaker 4: informing us and educating.

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Speaker 3: The second part is the lie detector. People ask the

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Speaker 3: wrong question. They should have asked, Gretchen, did you lie

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Did you lie in the back of the car about

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Speaker 4: Were with Shannon and Tamra.

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Speaker 3: That's what they should have asked her, because then she

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Speaker 3: in the other part, why didn't Gretchen or why didn't

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Speaker 3: here's the deal, they were sitting there when Gretchen said,

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Speaker 4: I felt really I was really sick.

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Speaker 3: Why wouldn't they have just said, right in front of everybody,

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Speaker 3: with the light detector woman there too. Well, we heard

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Speaker 3: you were lying then, you know, so the other way.

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Speaker 2: I'm just confused by that.

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Speaker 1: So I want to say this, I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I thought the same thing. And then I thought one thing.

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Speaker 2: Because you're very honest. You've always been honest.

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Speaker 1: I thought, at that moment, if they remembered that conversation

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they remember, because my thing is this,

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Speaker 3: I didn't because it was I remembered that she was

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Speaker 3: also maybe Tam and Shannon didn't remember that happening either

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Speaker 3: put on the producer's hat, maybe you're right about that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Because what I want the audience to understand is this,

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Speaker 1: when you watch their confessionals, those are taped weeks and

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Speaker 1: watch the confessionals is because the producers already edited the

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Speaker 2: Oh, well, we actually found a moment where she did

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Speaker 1: don't you remember when Gretchen said this to you?

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Speaker 1: So I do believe that's what happened based on my

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Speaker 1: but it leads me to this. I love me some Jen.

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Speaker 1: I think Jen is a good girl. I think she's great,

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Speaker 1: I think she's funny. Is Jen capable of choosing Gretchen's

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Speaker 2: What did you make of it?

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Speaker 1: Because if we're saying that Gretchen did say it, why

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Speaker 4: That's a really good question.

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Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what this show does do to

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Speaker 3: And the conversations you have off camera with some of

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Speaker 4: My feelings too. You know. I know I've hurt your

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Speaker 4: It backfired on Katie.

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Speaker 3: Like I said earlier, you know, it's it didn't work

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Speaker 3: Twitter likes it, but you know, and it is not

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Speaker 1: with that? The fact that she Heather, I know you

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00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 1: think I hate you. I don't hate anybody. I'm just

444
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: I just don't kiss your ass, but I love you.

445
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 1: I think you're a great house life, but I'm not

446
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: kissing your ass like the others do. One thing I

447
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: will say, though, is a blind man can see that

448
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: heathern de Bro wants to be on.

449
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 2: The real housebo to Billy Hills.

450
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: Guess one, alexis I if I had a choice of

451
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 1: all the housewives, I would be on Beverley Hill all

452
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: it because I like the lifestyle.

453
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 2: I like the accent. I would love to go to

454
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 2: a Kathy Hills a Christmas party.

455
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: I actually loved that lifestyle, that is Heaven's lifestyle. But

456
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: the fact that she was like I only said yes

457
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 1: because of the distance.

458
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 2: Heather.

459
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: That's why I can't stand you the way I want to,

460
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 1: because I wish you would have saient if all of

461
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 1: us had a fucking choice in this room, we all

462
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: would choose that show.

463
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 2: Get out of right much should have just owned it

464
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 2: Like this, I'm going to.

465
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: Ask you directly, would you prefer to be a housewife

466
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 1: of Orange County or a housewife of Beverly Hills.

467
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 4: Probably neither at the more. But here's I mean.

468
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 3: I love my life so much here and I am

469
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 3: more of like a homebody. I think for myself personally,

470
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: the lifestyle of Beverly Hills in LA and all that

471
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 3: is too much for me. I know, it's great and gland,

472
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 3: grandiose and glamour and all that. I feel like I

473
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: have enough of that right here in my little OC bubble.

474
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a Missouri girl, so maybe that's some

475
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: of my farm girl roots coming out in me.

476
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 4: But I yeah, I'm I'm pretty content here.

477
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 3: But I can see where ninety nine percent of women

478
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 3: would want to be in that. But it is, it's

479
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 3: a faster pace, it's too much. It's just it's over

480
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 3: the top.

481
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:00,479
Speaker 5: You know.

482
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 4: I love like you.

483
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 3: I mean we see each other at Calthy Hilton's party.

484
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 3: I love being a part of it here and there,

485
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: you know. But but to actually live it every day,

486
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 3: I mean it's perfect for Heather.

487
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 4: She's already living, like she said, she's there, she.

488
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,479
Speaker 2: Lives there, so yeah, yeah, yeah.

489
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: And I like the fact that she has this viber

490
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: who takes her ninety minutes, which with the Heather, I

491
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: will give you that, the commitment of a ninety minute

492
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: commute from Beverly Hills to OC is nothing to sneeze that, sister.

493
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 2: So but I will say, your.

494
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 4: Day so long, it makes it sense so long. I

495
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 4: do it for longer than normal, just for the traffic.

496
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: I couldn't do it.

497
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it, So I appreciate her commitment to

498
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: OC and listen, this is my opinion. I think Heaven

499
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: the Bro is a great reality star. I don't see

500
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: her on Beverly Hills with those women. I think she's

501
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: perfect for OC. I think I think Heather is perfect

502
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: for this show. And Heather, I don't want you to leave. Okay,

503
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: my sister. Now, I think she's great. Ol see I

504
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: believe do Okay.

505
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 2: So with that being said, Gina was asked.

506
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: If she is using her ARE for her real estate connections.

507
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: She said no, she passed that test. Were you surprised

508
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: by that, Alexis no, because.

509
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 4: I don't think Gina was.

510
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 3: I think that was I was sitting at that lunch

511
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 3: when that came out. That was when we were in

512
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: where were we going that time? I think it was

513
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 3: so Noma Orce.

514
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 4: I don't remember. It was last year when we were filming.

515
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 3: I was at that lunch and when that got called out,

516
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 3: I was just like, that's so not true.

517
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 4: I didn't believe it at all for that.

518
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 3: But but it could be too true. It could be possible,

519
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 3: you know. But I'm glad that Heather also said, I

520
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 3: wouldn't have believed it. Even if you would have failed,

521
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have believed it.

522
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: So that's good.

523
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think Gina was using anyone for connections.

524
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 3: And she's doing you know, she's kicking butt on her own.

525
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: She's doing a great job.

526
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: Yes, I think Listen, I love Gina so much because

527
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: I think Gina is who she is off camera on camp.

528
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: I think Gina is just who she is. I also

529
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: don't believe she's using Heather for connection. I think Gina

530
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: is doing.

531
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 2: A great job.

532
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: And she also had a speaking engagement last week that

533
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: she posted, and she has so much confidence on stage.

534
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: So I think Gina's confidence on.

535
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: Stage in front of a million of people indicates that

536
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: she has enough confidence to secure her own deals. Now,

537
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: one thing that shocked me and I felt like, unfortunately,

538
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: they did not spend enough time on this. Jen was

539
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: asked if she was worried about marrying Ryan.

540
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 4: Oh go go girls react though. The girls were like,

541
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 4: they couldn't believe that she failed that one.

542
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: She failed it and she looks shocked. The girls were gagging.

543
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: I was gagging. A let says, were you gagging too?

544
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 3: I was not because here's why I've heard. I've heard

545
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 3: through the grape vine that it is is pretty like

546
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what's true or not.

547
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 3: So I am giving, he says, she say stuff right now.

548
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 3: But I do live in OC so there's always chatter

549
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 3: in my ear and everyone stops me all the you know,

550
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: and I don't know. So I do hear some things,

551
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 3: and I did hear that it is they're they're putting

552
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: a pause or or taking a step back from all

553
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 3: of that, and so we'll see, we'll see how it

554
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 3: airs or you know, what comes out. But yeah, so

555
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 3: I wasn't that shocked when she got caught. I think

556
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 3: I think when she said in her confessional, she goes

557
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: how she say it, she goes, I don't want to

558
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: go back through another divorce like I did before.

559
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 4: I can see.

560
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: How that would be in the back of your mind

561
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: when you're doing a liight detector test. So I can't

562
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 3: understand how she would fail that And still mean, no,

563
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 3: I do want to marry him, but just to have

564
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: that because even me, I mean, this is my third marriage,

565
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 3: like like you know, I say too, because my first

566
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 3: one didn't count. I was so young and we were

567
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: married for a year, and you know, I never should

568
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 3: have I never should have said yes anyway, however, so

569
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: that I feel like I could.

570
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 4: Have got that in all that's a wash.

571
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 3: But now it's my second real marriort, like big time marriage,

572
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: and I'm I feel scared sometimes too.

573
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 4: You don't want to go through another divorce.

574
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: So I get where she could fail that because on

575
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 3: the light detector tests. Keep in mind, Carlos, like they said,

576
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 3: it's it's your it's your pulse, your sweat, amount, your heartbreaking,

577
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 3: all these things, so you a lot of emotions can

578
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: get into it. That's why I do think that light

579
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 3: detector tests aren't necessarily good, you know.

580
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 4: I think that a lot of people can fail them

581
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 4: or pass them.

582
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, when they're pass them, even when they're not telling

583
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 3: the truth.

584
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, and listen, I want to go and

585
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: right there saying this, there's not enough money in the

586
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: world to get me to take a lot of tic

587
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: to test. Only because of alex Is, only because of

588
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: those reasons, not because I'm trying to hide something. I

589
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: think it's because I think nothing is one hundred percent

590
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: full truth of error. So if it's listed, I create

591
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: my own high blood pressure at times when I'm nervous

592
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: about something, do you know what I mean? Like, because

593
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: your mind controls that, your your palls, your blood pressure

594
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: and all those things. So's a not the fact that

595
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm lying the fact that I'm a nervous nelly as

596
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: a human being. So everything makes me nervous. My heart's

597
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: beating right now, like and I'm comfortable around you. It's

598
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: just it's just crazy because I wouldn't have done it.

599
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: So I'll give all the growth posts for saying yes to.

600
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: This year, and it's still kind of fun to do it.

601
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 3: Like on marriage boot Camp when I did it, I

602
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: was nervous as heck. I was shaking, and I'm like,

603
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: I'm not going to pass anything, just because I was.

604
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 4: When they're putting you in all those words.

605
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 3: And they talk so seriously, it's all so dead, just

606
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: monotone and du and it just makes you feel like,

607
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I'm in trouble when I didn't do anything.

608
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: But let me ask you this about jen see, because

609
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: I know some of what I think is about to unfold,

610
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: or just from being living here and knowing certain people

611
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 3: that know.

612
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 4: Her, et cetera.

613
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: I think the viewers were shocked to hear that because

614
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: I think things are about to unfold later. I think

615
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: I don't know, and I could totally put my foot

616
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: in my mouth and be wrong about that, but you know,

617
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you haven't heard about.

618
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 4: Him getting married yet.

619
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: So that's one thing, because if they would have got married,

620
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 3: even on the show, we'd still know they're married, and

621
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: it was going to be shown on the show, right

622
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,959
Speaker 3: So but I think so you were shocked because it's

623
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: the first time you've felt there's any kind of a whoa, wait,

624
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 3: you're not excited to just go jump down the aisle

625
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: with them? Is that that was what was going through

626
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: your mind?

627
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: Huh? One hundred percent.

628
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: Only because I am strictly a viewer of the show

629
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: base on what I've been watching. Along with the rain drops,

630
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: I see nothing that I'm shown but the fact that

631
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: they love each other. Ryan has moved Jen and her

632
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: children to his home. Ryan was going through a scandal,

633
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: and Jim stood by her. Mam Like Tammy Whynett, do

634
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: wiut all of this?

635
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: They are a sexy couple.

636
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: They love to be have naked on a beach and

637
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: a gym, and they they have this solidarity that.

638
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: We are together and we are one.

639
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: So the fact that the only indication that there could

640
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: be possible trouble in Paradise allegedly.

641
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: Is the fact that she failed.

642
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: And they and I don't want to misquote, but based

643
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: on what I saw in my notes, they said you

644
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: failed significantly when I asked that question about marrying Ryan,

645
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: which now you're saying, listen, in the waters of the OC,

646
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: there's rumors that you know, the wedding may not happen

647
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: and that it may.

648
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: Allegedly be put on palls.

649
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: So now I'm thinking to myself as this and I

650
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: would love to get your thoughts on it. And I'm

651
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: hoping that we spend more time on Thissiness season because

652
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: the Katie shit.

653
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: I'm over it, but I'm over it.

654
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 1: I now wonder this one of the things that I

655
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: can't guess if.

656
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: If if Jen and Ryan are putting their wedding on Pauls,

657
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: it has to be because of money.

658
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: And when I say that, there has to be something

659
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: about assets being protected, the things needing to be you know,

660
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: done properly, information coming out that maybe they didn't know.

661
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: Those were the things running through my mind.

662
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: Is that something that you're hearing too, or are you

663
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: hearing something completely different?

664
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: No, and I'm not really.

665
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 3: That's the funny thing is the chatter is not really

666
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: talking about why. It's just everyone's kind of going hmm.

667
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: You know, they were engaged, they were supposed to get married,

668
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: you know, a X, Y and Z and the Bahamas

669
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 3: and this, and then there was no.

670
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 4: Wedding because, like I said, we'd still hear about it.

671
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: Even if even they wouldn't, they wouldn't show anything or

672
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: post anything and talk for the show aired, we still

673
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: know the married. So yeah, I just think that might

674
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: be where it's coming from. But you're absolutely right. I

675
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: mean that could both of those things could be true

676
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: about what you're saying. It could be the money, or

677
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 3: it could be the assets, or it could be the

678
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: you know. I mean the fact that he already moved

679
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: the kids in shows you that he's committed and loves

680
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: her and wants to. I mean, that's just such a

681
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: heroic thing to do. And he does love those He's

682
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 3: very good to her and the kids. So yeah, yeah,

683
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: you know, I feel also like I think Gina and

684
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 3: Emily just wanted to get this out. But I feel

685
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: like Gina and Emily are such mean girls this season, though,

686
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: I feel like what they did and kicking Katie out

687
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 3: and doing all that, I feel like that was mean girl.

688
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 4: I know I'm jumping a topic right now.

689
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: Sometimes in my heart, I even wanted to text Katie,

690
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: but where I'm still kind of so mad at her

691
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 3: for lying about it, but I even wanted to text

692
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: her and just be like, girlfriend, that is not cool.

693
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 4: It was not cool.

694
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: No, no, no, two things can be true. Katie can

695
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: be a liar, and I believe she is. However, who

696
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: the fuck are you to kick someone out.

697
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 4: Like that mean and that mean of a way.

698
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: Just simply take her outside or pull her aside and

699
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: talk to her like, don't it's so high school mean girl?

700
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 2: Just you know.

701
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: And I saw the brunch of it last year. They

702
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: were both mean girls to me, so I know that

703
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 3: they have that spirit in them, but it really made

704
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: me mad the way that they handled Like Katie's not

705
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: sitting there taking enough. She just significantly failed the light

706
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: detect her test. She's going to be humiliated knowing that

707
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: it's going to air, and then and then you still

708
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 3: tell her she should leave. I just it really bothered me.

709
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, So now let's talk about it, because again, there's

710
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 1: no rules about.

711
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: You know, how we construct this episode.

712
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: So let's just get right into that too, and I'll

713
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: go back to some other stuff I want to talk

714
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: about that happen prior to that moment. It discussed me

715
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: to see Emily tell Katie to leave. You're not the

716
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: boss of anybody?

717
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: Who are you?

718
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: And I like Emily a lot. That was fucked up.

719
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: It literally disgusted me seeing that happen.

720
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: Who are you?

721
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: It reminded me, honestly, Uh, if I'm being completely honest,

722
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: then I'm always now.

723
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: When having de Bro tell Kelly Dodd to leave? Who

724
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: who you like?

725
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: Who the fuck are you to tell somebody who's on

726
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: the same show as you, who's holding an orange as you.

727
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: That they need to leave?

728
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: And that's why I will always laugh and love when

729
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: Kelly Dodd said to Heather.

730
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: Who are you? You're not my balls?

731
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: I thought that was like, to me, that's funny, And yeah,

732
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: Kelly Doll has said some problematic shit, but we're not

733
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm not.

734
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: I'm not here to talk about that right now. I'm

735
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 2: going to talk about the correlation. Go ahead, Alexis.

736
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 4: I just had a thought. Cameron judge, he's one of

737
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 4: my closest friends. Kicked me out of her gym. She goes,

738
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: get the fuck down here. I'm sorry, I'm I'm trying

739
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 4: not to cuse. Just bleep that up.

740
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: But anyway, okay, talking like, wait a minute, I feel

741
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: like I've been kicked out.

742
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 4: What was fine?

743
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but listen, guess what if Tama's the fifth

744
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: you were on her property?

745
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 4: Well it hold on? Hold on, Emily was where this

746
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 4: is that?

747
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: So Katie was at Eily's property?

748
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: Oh? Hold on?

749
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 4: And wasn't Kelly at Heather's house?

750
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: Was restaurant? That's the restaurant, okay, the.

751
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 4: Only one that Hey, that's the only one. We're correct

752
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 4: about that. We got to just erace everything else.

753
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't like that.

754
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 6: And I also said too that I detested when Shannon

755
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 6: told when Shannon yelled at Katie a few episodes all

756
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 6: go so listen.

757
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 2: I know that when it comes to Katie, listen. I

758
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: like Katie.

759
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: Katie's gorgeous, but I listen when it comes to the

760
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: people we love. It's also okay to say, in this instance,

761
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: I think you're wrong. I think Katie is a liar. Sorry,

762
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: I think she is, but that doesn't mean that she

763
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: does serves to be yelled at by Shanning, and it

764
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that she deserves to be kicked out in

765
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: that way.

766
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: And Jen, I love Jen, I love you.

767
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: Two pieces the fact that, out of anybody on that show,

768
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: you're the closest to her, and I think as a

769
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: human being, I expected jan to get up and just

770
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: go outside and say, Katie, look, although I think what

771
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: you did was whatever, I just want.

772
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: To make sure you're okay because I agree to to

773
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: to to be to be alone in that moment.

774
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: And again, it's okay to know that she felt something miserably,

775
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean that this woman deserved to be.

776
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: Yelled at kicked out.

777
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: And the fact that not one person went outside to

778
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: say I want to make sure you're okay.

779
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 4: I agree with you.

780
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I.

781
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: Want to talk about the fact that two things were

782
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: caught in live Tamra saying that she's on the spectrum,

783
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: she felt that she was surprised, she felt it.

784
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 2: They then flashed back to the therapists pretty much confirming

785
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: that that was talked about. What did you make of that?

786
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: Because I thought that was luck And I'm like, well,

787
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: we kind of saw on camera that that was a conversation,

788
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: So how does she fail that?

789
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: And it made me think about the validity of this test.

790
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right, And that's what I'm trying to say,

791
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: is that it's like, even though Gretchen passed it all

792
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 3: with flying colors and Katie failed it all miserably, it

793
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 3: shows you right there with Tameras that the test isn't

794
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 3: all accurate all the time, because it shows that Tamra

795
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: had that conversation with her therapist.

796
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 4: So she's not lying about it her thing.

797
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 3: Maybe she worded it improperly or or claimed it too

798
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 3: much of it like that she is, but her therapist

799
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: in her had the conversation on camera that Tamra should

800
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: get tested for being on the spectrum, so because her

801
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: therapist thinks she is. So yeah, the test isn't always accurate.

802
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 3: I love that they showed that because then it's like,

803
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 3: because then you have one character on the show passing

804
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: with flying colors, one character failing it all miserably, and

805
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: so and then you have one that they prove that

806
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 3: the test is in accurate.

807
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: So but one thing that I want to make clear,

808
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: and this is why I love having my assistant Lizzie

809
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: on because Lizzie watched it with us, and Liza's gonna

810
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: keep us honest. Lizzy is texting me saying that the

811
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 1: therapist and Lizzie tell me if I got this Rian

812
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: as I'm reading your notes, if they're sending me in real.

813
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: Time, I fall loving show. Okay.

814
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: Lizzy is saying to me that the therapist said she

815
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: should get tested for being on the spectrum, but not

816
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: necessarily saying she was on the spectrum.

817
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 2: Lizzy is saying to me, no.

818
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: Onah confirmed that a doctor told her she was on

819
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: the spectrum, which is why she turned them around and

820
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: apologized on social media.

821
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the difference.

822
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 3: Now, now, thank you for keeping us accurate.

823
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: Always listen to Rialna Tevamiking from the actor reporting I

824
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: love Love Love love us. Okay, So that was that

825
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: one not not so so now we know why she

826
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: failed it because to your point, it was the wrong

827
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: question being asked.

828
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: Yes, there we go, debait. They should have said do

829
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: you think you're on the spectrum? Not has a doctor

830
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: said you're on the spectrum?

831
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the doctor said you should get tested for it?

832
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 4: Right there you go?

833
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 2: Okay, Heather failed, not the one Heather.

834
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: I like you, Jesus, I'm recapping the show Heather failed

835
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: with acts.

836
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: If she called the paparazzi on herself, I know no

837
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 2: in Alexis tell me.

838
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: I guess by your laughing and your reaction and what

839
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: I'm looking watching you do right now, you do.

840
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 4: Believe she called the paparazzis.

841
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: I think this. I think this, I think this, I

842
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 2: think this. I think this. Now. I will say this.

843
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: I don't think a mother would swear on their children

844
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: if they're telling I mean, if they're lying.

845
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: I just.

846
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't know a mother in my life who would

847
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: lie on their kids for something as minuscule as a paparazzi.

848
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: I think that's silly. So I will say this. I

849
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 2: watched the show. Heather Debro loves her children to pieces.

850
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: She's a great mother.

851
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: If she's saying I did not call them and I

852
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: swear my kids, I do believe her. So I do

853
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: believe her now with that being said. With that being said,

854
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: it's all a game of semantics.

855
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 5: To me, because my my my true crime reporter alexibl

856
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 5: know who should be a producer on Daylight NBC and

857
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 5: day Light NBC, if.

858
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: You're hiring hire lessis Billina to give us a recording? Now,

859
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: I believe that somebody in Heather's camp.

860
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 4: Ah, I was gonna go there.

861
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: I'm semantic. Did it have the pick up the fall

862
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: and call Harvey Labin from TMZ. Absolutely not.

863
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: Now the Heavis assistant publishist, manager, real estate agent friend

864
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 1: called the fabarazzi on her and and uh and Terry.

865
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

866
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 4: I I was gonna. I was gonna mention that if

867
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 4: you didn't bring it up. I was, because it's in

868
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 4: my mind, I'm.

869
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: Like, she could totally have failed it because yeah, she

870
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: didn't specifically pick up the phone, but she knows in

871
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 3: her heart that somebody did that that is connected to her,

872
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: you know.

873
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, I was yeah, very very good catch there, Carlos.

874
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: We're okay.

875
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: So maybe we both need to go to dateline and

876
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: produce that okay, because we are just I'm just so

877
00:42:59,160 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 3: proud of our skills.

878
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: Damn. I would love it. That's why are recapt our head,

879
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: because people just love us.

880
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: And once again, people haven't seen your praise and so

881
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: I won't let you know that another week. You've been

882
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: in the pressed, girlfriend, So I can't thank you enough

883
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: for hopping on this. Okay, wait, I have a look,

884
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Speaker 1: I have a Lizzy note, not a legal note, a

885
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: Lizzy note.

886
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,479
Speaker 2: So Lizzy said, I just rewatched it for us. The

887
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: therapist sent, it's hard to say until you get an assessment.

888
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: So yes, we are right about the fact that she

889
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: said you should get tested.

890
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: Okay, now, so ig, what camera would think?

891
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 3: I can see why Tamper would think that. The therapist

892
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: thought that. Then, Okay, it's not like camera's trying to

893
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: lie about it. Like, no one's going to go out

894
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 3: there and lie and say that they they're on the

895
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 3: spectrum when they're not. That's why it was in Tamra's

896
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: mind obviously from that what the therapist said, thank you, Lizzie.

897
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred percent agreed.

898
00:43:51,920 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 7: Now, Gretchen, you before I go back to what she said,

899
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 7: Gretchen passed the test with flying collars.

900
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: Gretchen said she never told Katie that she.

901
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: Went to the hospital, got rufeed she and she passed that.

902
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: She passed the fact that I've got the other questions.

903
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: But long story stores she passed every question and they

904
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: said you low key passed with flying collars.

905
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 4: No, they said you passed I think Lizzie will keep

906
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 4: us on this.

907
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 3: I think that I remember, I think that the lady said,

908
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 3: the woman examiner said, you actually passed the entire test,

909
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 3: So that's why. And my dateline mind went off because

910
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 3: of what I'm like, Okay, well that's kind of scary, actually, like,

911
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 3: that's not that means you can rely really good, because

912
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 3: there's no way you're going to pass every single one

913
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: of them.

914
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 4: I mean unless what.

915
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 2: Unless you really are a onl Arietta.

916
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 3: But we know she's We know she's not because we

917
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: have the footage of her the back of the car

918
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 3: saying she did go to the hospital, so she lied.

919
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 4: There, So she's not true, not honest.

920
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 3: Honest, Harry or you know whatever, Henriette. I mean, maybe

921
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: up if she hadn't slipped up and done that in

922
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 3: the back of the car, then maybe we could all

923
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 3: be going, yeah, she must.

924
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 4: Be really honest.

925
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, she's so she lined one episode ago

926
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: to everybody, so don't don't don't don't sing her praises

927
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 3: on that just because she can pass the light detector

928
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 3: test with flying colors.

929
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 1: But Alex says, it just hit me what My producer

930
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: brain went off again. The fact that the producers are

931
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: showing us flashbacks to come back the failure and the

932
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: passing of some of these women. I believe they're low

933
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: key telling us without telling us, perhaps this live this

934
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: live detector test results is not as accurate as it

935
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: should be because to your point, but Tamra thing we

936
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: saw Booth, the Gretcha thing.

937
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: We saw that she did tell Tamara and Shannon that

938
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 2: she did go to the hospital.

939
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: She sent the live detective tests, she did not go

940
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: to the hospital, and she passed. Maybe the producers are

941
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: saying to us, this is our way of not getting

942
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 1: into the weeds of it, but we can only allow

943
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: you guys to see the full picture that maybe this

944
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: live detective test isn't as accurate as it may appear.

945
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: If that's the case, are we now being told that

946
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: maybe Katie told the truth and some of these things,

947
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: or do you believe that Katie filled significantly because she

948
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 1: lied about every by significantly.

949
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: Well, I can't remember all of her questions now, but

950
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 3: I definitely don't think she's going to fail the entire

951
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 3: test unless it's because remember when she sat down in

952
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 3: the chair, She's just.

953
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 4: Like, I'm so anxious I'm so anxious. I'm so anxious.

954
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 3: So maybe she kind of psyites herself out to where

955
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 3: her body was just reacting in every certain.

956
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 4: Way for all the questions.

957
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: If they said, even if they said, are you know,

958
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: are you forty two? And she has forty two, I

959
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 3: don't know what her age is, but I'm just saying, you.

960
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 4: Know, I asked her question like that that really is

961
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 4: she is honestly saying.

962
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 3: I think she might have still even failed it because

963
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: I think she was so just so worked up. But

964
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 3: by the way, Carlos, I think the producers also are

965
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 3: are setting us up for a couple episodes coming up

966
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 3: that they're going that they're they're going to keep using

967
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: this light detector test and show that there are more

968
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 3: lies that are still being told. I believe that we're

969
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 3: still going to see more lies.

970
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 4: I don't know why.

971
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 3: I think that they the light detector test was just

972
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 3: one way of like saying that they're not legit, but

973
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 3: also to add some fun and some you know, it

974
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: was kind of interesting to watch it, right, But I

975
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: believe that we're still going to see more lies coming out.

976
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: I did too. I do too.

977
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 3: Flash back back to the light detector test too, so

978
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: it was just interesting.

979
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 4: I'm glad they did it.

980
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 3: I know America is not loving it and thinks it

981
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: was really bad, bad, but I I love it.

982
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 4: I think it was I think it was fun.

983
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: Look, this was the best episode of the season, and

984
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: all the episodes to me have been great, So I

985
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, I can predict

986
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: that this episode will probably be the highest rated of

987
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: the season so far. Because of what you said, Alexit,

988
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: It's one of those things that I had an emotional

989
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 1: reaction watching it, and it's because I've never seen anything

990
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: like this on a housewives show, where everybody is called

991
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: to the carpet and being forced honestly, you know, with

992
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: the machine strapped to you to be honest. And look,

993
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: if Katie is a liar, this is what I will.

994
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I do think she is one, but I

995
00:48:59,040 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 2: want to.

996
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: Go on record saying I don't think Katie is the

997
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: own liar, right, and I don't think. I don't think

998
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 1: Katie's lies is bigger than other housewives who have lied

999
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: that are still on the show.

1000
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 3: Agree That's how I feel, And I don't think Katie's.

1001
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 4: A liar about everything either. I want to clear that.

1002
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 3: I don't think she lies about every single thing. I

1003
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 3: think she's just she's just got caught in so many

1004
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 3: that you know that that now it's hard to believe

1005
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 3: any of what she says. But I don't think she's

1006
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 3: she I don't think she failed that test all the

1007
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 3: way and lied about every single one of them.

1008
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 4: I don't think.

1009
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 2: So. Yeah, and I'm also.

1010
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 3: Over I'm also over the Katie stuff. Like I'm ready

1011
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 3: for the show to move. It's like, it's like, put

1012
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 3: that to rest and let's move the show forward. So

1013
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: I'm hoping, you know, like next episode it's going to

1014
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 3: be to be continued because we saw Katie, you know,

1015
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 3: leave and is so upset, and it's like, okay, can

1016
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 3: we just now can we take the point of moving

1017
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: over this and go on to fast forward the show

1018
00:49:58,760 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 3: in another direction?

1019
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: I I drew with you.

1020
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: So it looks like Katie may have been sirt her

1021
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: walking papers. Katie did an interview recently where she said

1022
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 1: that she was not invited to I believe the cast

1023
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: trip she asks to go.

1024
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: That's allegedly what happened. Who knows.

1025
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: But my last question for you, alexis is this based

1026
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: on what you've seen. Do you think Gretchen is being

1027
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: set up by the producers to come back to the

1028
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: show next season as a full time housewife.

1029
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know.

1030
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I think there's just so many more episodes

1031
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 3: to see. And there was one on the trailer where

1032
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 3: she's really really oh on the cast trip, it looked

1033
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 3: like that she was screaming into the van. Make it

1034
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 3: make sense. So I don't know, I don't know. I

1035
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 3: think there's a lot to buy, a lot that we're going.

1036
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 4: To get to see.

1037
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you want her to.

1038
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 4: Come back full time? What is your take on that?

1039
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: Look, I'm a big Regipan, and I think Gretchen and

1040
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: Tama to me, reminds me a lot of Portia Kenya.

1041
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: Reminds me a lot of just like when you have

1042
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: two women who are very strong and opinionated have a conflict.

1043
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 2: I think they're both great at it.

1044
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: So looks as of now, I would love to see

1045
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: Gretchen back full time. I want to see Alexis Belino

1046
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: back full time. You know, I would like to see

1047
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: Shannaby a friend up to the show in my opinion,

1048
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 1: And look, I think the rest of the cast should

1049
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: stay and I think Katie just isn't built for reality television.

1050
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 2: I think Katie.

1051
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: I think Katie should just go back to like what

1052
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: she was doing before the show and live a very

1053
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: peaceful life with her amazing husband.

1054
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: I think Matt is a great guy. So that's that's

1055
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: what Carlos Kimbral likes to see.

1056
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 3: Okay, well you heard it here, and so we will

1057
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 3: see if your prediction is right. We can we can

1058
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 3: flash back to this in a year.

1059
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 4: Or two say you're wrong, Yes we can't.

1060
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: Electavely no.

1061
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, my sister for another great episode,

1062
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: and I'll see you next week.

1063
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: Bye, doll.

1064
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

1065
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.

1066
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 2: With The Lack Effect Network.

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00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at

1068
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: the Carlos King Underscore