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Speaker 2: Touchdown Trey McBride. Heck of a play by the all

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Speaker 2: world tight end Tray McBride. Oh that was nasty right there,

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Speaker 2: right slam the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: You know, all of a sudden things got really quiet.

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Speaker 2: Here reminded me of this college class I took it

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Speaker 2: with stats. The professor wasn't just type A, he was

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Speaker 2: type triple A. He would look up at the clock

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Speaker 2: on the wall, and that's when silence would rain as

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Speaker 2: he waited for the second hand to strike midnight, and

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Speaker 2: he would start the class the lecture right on the

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Speaker 2: very second, at the top of the hour.

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Speaker 4: I don't have a problem without Paul.

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Speaker 2: So this digital age, there's no such thing as a

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Speaker 2: clock on the wall anymore, much less secondhand. And it

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Speaker 2: doesn't really matter what time we start as long as

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Speaker 2: Office Automation. Just the TRT total run time is what

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Speaker 2: ultimately matters.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but but bigger picture, Paulie, you you call a meeting.

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Speaker 4: How do you feel about when that starts?

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Speaker 2: Well, meetings different I mean record time though, right, I

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Speaker 2: mean meeting you know, goes on, you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: but ever since the old uh you know, COVID in

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Speaker 2: the zoom and the whole thing, and I don't know,

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Speaker 2: it's uh, you know, attendance in a lot of ways

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Speaker 2: in life these days. I don't want to pontificate here

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Speaker 2: and get too philosophical, but I mean, it's more voluntary

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Speaker 2: than ever, isn't it. Don't you sort of get that sense?

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Speaker 2: Where is that more voluntary than just attendance in general?

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Speaker 4: But it sure feels like it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, by the way, I I know you're supposed to

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Speaker 5: take it one week at a time, Danny, But I'm

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Speaker 5: already looking ahead to Cincinnati after they had a high

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Speaker 5: of nine and mine is six below.

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Speaker 4: You're onto Cincinnati mentally, Okay, mentally I am a little

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Speaker 4: bit a little bit good one, Darren.

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Speaker 2: Darren's on his game. We're gonna have to match Darren's

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Speaker 2: energy here.

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Speaker 4: I barely had any coffee.

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Speaker 2: You sure you have a performance enhancer that's off camera?

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Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying, Darren?

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Speaker 4: Okay, look, it's not chat ept, but I do the

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Speaker 4: best I can.

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Speaker 2: That'll come a little bit later. That's calling a shot

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Speaker 2: right there.

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to keep up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just uh so, no jacket, no jacket till Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: That's how that's how this is gonna work. Is that

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Speaker 2: a kind myself?

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Speaker 4: Are you? Is that a concern? There are certain people

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Speaker 4: that are around this podcast right now might be on

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Speaker 4: the other side of the window that tried to say

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Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago that Cincinnati that time of

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Speaker 4: year is more like the fifties? Is there concern that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'd love to see Cincinnati jump forty degrees

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Speaker 3: in fourteen days.

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Speaker 2: First off, I'm not gonna let Omo and Cody play

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Speaker 2: mind games with yours truly. Okay, I'm not don't give

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Speaker 2: him that credit. Where where I got mentally sideways? As

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Speaker 2: I looked up at an NFL network and they're jump

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Speaker 2: around from game to game last Sunday, and then they

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Speaker 2: had the little weather bug the graphic and the bottom right,

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Speaker 2: and it gave you the high tempts single digits, enough

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Speaker 2: wind show blow zero. So hopefully two weeks is enough

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Speaker 2: for the weather for the cold front to move out

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Speaker 2: of town. But again, no sleep till Brooklyn, no jacket

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Speaker 4: I do know that in certain corners of this organization.

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Speaker 4: You may not know this, Paul, but you are known

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Speaker 4: as the Miami Dolphins of sideline reporters.

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Speaker 2: Really, you know what, I want names on that one.

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Speaker 2: I want to know who's saying that that ends today.

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Speaker 4: It's not going to be helped by all this talk

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Speaker 2: What if in Cincinnati? What if in Cincinnati all the

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Speaker 2: old linemen came out without sleeves and then yours truly

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Speaker 2: came out like John Lott back in the day, I

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Speaker 2: want to come out be the New England game or

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Speaker 2: the New England game. And he came out and he

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Speaker 2: had everything except like a tank top strength coach, the

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Speaker 2: old strength coach. And then at halftime, oh he got

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Speaker 2: he got religion at halftime, and he came out in

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Speaker 2: the second half. He had like four layers on. He

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Speaker 2: looked like Stave Puff.

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Speaker 4: Marshal funny until you get frostbite.

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Speaker 2: That's right, all right, where are we starting here? Danny?

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Speaker 2: How are you doing? You get over there?

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to put myself in these situations and

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Speaker 3: these memories that I was not around for that you

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Speaker 3: guys are bonding over. It's real fun for me.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say.

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Speaker 4: It reminds me every time I go out with my

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Speaker 4: childhood friend.

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Speaker 2: And so Darren keeps going childhood friend.

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Speaker 4: My wife gets mad later, like I don't know anything

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Speaker 4: you guys are talking about.

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Speaker 3: You let me know when you want to loop me in.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what Tray McBride, what because that's what the

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Speaker 2: sitting there at a dinner table and everyone's on their phone.

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Speaker 2: You don't need an each other anymore, right, Yes, Trey McBride, Okay,

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Speaker 2: those is an honest question. Speaking of phone. I looked down.

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Speaker 2: I did not realize, did he make Angry Runs again.

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Speaker 3: He didn't win. He was a finalist this week, correct

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Speaker 3: it this week it went Tosh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I know that.

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Speaker 2: I know that.

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Speaker 4: Kyle Brandt just also wanted to just talk about how

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Speaker 4: awesome Trey is because he loves Trey McBride only all.

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Speaker 2: And I just went through Kyle Brandt's timeline there and

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Speaker 2: he retweeted the field level video of the Caleb Williams

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Speaker 2: roll out touchdown pass through traffic to DJ Moore, which

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Speaker 2: is just a crazy angle to see that ball come

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Speaker 2: through traffic and then DJ Moore come across and snag

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Speaker 2: that And honestly, if you saw the low angle, I

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Speaker 2: think of it was from Channel three Channel five because

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Speaker 2: they were in the end zone of the Trey McBride's

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Speaker 2: second touchdown catch where in traffic across the middle hands out,

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Speaker 2: you know, snatches it makes it look so easy. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that is an absolute bullet a laser from Chacobi Wes said,

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Speaker 2: fitting it into a very tight window, snags it, braces

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Speaker 2: for a hit from three guys and gets into the

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Speaker 2: end zone. So I don't know if that was the

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Speaker 2: Angry run, even though it was run after catch.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, it was maybe on the first drive.

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Speaker 3: Actually it was when McBride shook a defender, shook a

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Speaker 3: second defender and it took three of them to bring

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Speaker 3: him to stop moving forward.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha?

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Speaker 4: At what point? And Paul, you and I were fortunate

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Speaker 4: enough to be around for Fitz's career and Danny having

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Speaker 4: your career, especially in Dallas, you saw some pretty high

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Speaker 4: profile players. At what point do you start talking about

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Speaker 4: a guy and a career trajectory that could be, for

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Speaker 4: lack of a better term, legendary, Like are we seeing

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Speaker 4: that with Trey McBride, Is it's still too early? It

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Speaker 4: was funny. I was looking at Travis Kelcey's years because

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Speaker 4: obviously Trey has broken a couple of Kelsey's records and

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Speaker 4: looking at some of the thing and it is. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Travis Kelsey had a streak of seven straight thousand yard seasons,

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Speaker 4: which is hard to do for a tight end. Like

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Speaker 4: we'll see if Trey McBride can do something like that.

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Speaker 4: But man, he is playing at a high level right now.

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Speaker 3: I don't like putting expectations on players like that. It

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Speaker 3: feels unfair. Yes, it's very clear that he is on

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Speaker 3: a tear right now, and not just this year, but

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Speaker 3: the trajectory in the way he has ascended from his

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Speaker 3: rookie year where he was hardly playing, hardly saw the field.

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Speaker 3: His second year he was still playing behind Zach Ertz,

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Speaker 3: so limited reps for a year and a half. And

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Speaker 3: to put up the numbers he has with multiple different quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: multiple quarterbacks who were backups. Not to say they weren't

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Speaker 3: good per se, but this isn't a situation where the

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Speaker 3: team has had multiple quote unquote franchise quarterbacks. He's had

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Speaker 3: to carry the load quite a bit. I would need

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Speaker 3: a few more years before I could fully commit and

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Speaker 3: say this is absolutely legendary because part of the reason

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Speaker 3: we call them legends is consistency, and McBride has been consistent. Yes,

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Speaker 3: through this point in his career. He's earned every penny

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Speaker 3: in my eyes, before we're talking about if you're going

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Speaker 3: to compare it to Larry Fitzgerald, then a Hall of

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Speaker 4: Fair, I'm not trying to say he's going to have

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Speaker 4: a Larry career. I was bringing that up is because

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Speaker 4: that's a touch point. I mean, you actually have a

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Speaker 4: Jason Witten, who's a tight end. Now, Jason Witten had

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Speaker 4: some really good years. He was never as prolific receiving

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Speaker 4: that's kind of where I am not necessarily Hall of

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Speaker 4: Fame from Trey McBride. He's way too early for that.

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Speaker 4: But again, in football, it's a little bit different than

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Speaker 4: do it for like twelve fifteen years, Like you can

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Speaker 4: have a great five. If you have a great great

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Speaker 3: If we see another two years of what we've seen

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Speaker 3: from McBride this season, absolutely, I mean I'm talking about

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Speaker 3: consistency on a larger scale many years in the career,

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Speaker 3: especially when you're talking about you know, Travis Keltz having

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Speaker 3: one thousand receiving yards in seven seasons. We have seen

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Speaker 3: consistency from McBride this year, though, and that's been a

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Speaker 3: crucial reason as to why the Cardinals have stayed in

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Speaker 3: as many games as they have this year is because

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Speaker 3: McBride has put the offense on his shoulders. He continues

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Speaker 3: to set records, and some of the latest were after

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Speaker 3: the game in Houston. He has the longest streak by

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Speaker 3: any tight end in NFL history with five or more

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Speaker 3: catches in a game for now sixteen straight games. So

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Speaker 3: he broke Kelsey's record of fifteen. And McBride is now

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Speaker 3: the first tight end ever to have back to back

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Speaker 3: seasons with one hundred or more catches. And here in

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Speaker 3: Kelsey hit one thousand yards seven times. He did that

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Speaker 3: without even having one hundred catches, which is impressive. But

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Speaker 3: to have a hundred catches and back to back years

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Speaker 3: really tells you the role that McBride is playing on

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Speaker 2: Here's the one Fitz stat that he did post. In

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Speaker 2: with ten receiving touchdowns since Larry in twenty thirteen. So

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Speaker 4: some things. If Trey McBride has six fabulous years for

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Speaker 4: And again here is our disclaimer. And I'm doing this

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Speaker 4: not here sitting there saying Trey McBride belongs in Canton.

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Speaker 3: And also not saying he's not on the trajectory to

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Speaker 3: absolutely that that's a different story. Though we're talking about

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Speaker 2: We're having this conversation because Darren has had too much caffeine.

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Speaker 2: That's why we're having this conversation. But it's good, it's

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Speaker 2: it's viable, it's valid. And then getting back full circle

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Speaker 2: on Trey McBride ninety seven of his one hundred and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna take that play Moniker, and we're gonna put

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Speaker 3: Some What I love about some of those tight end

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Speaker 3: calling them screens, But they're not really screens. It's just

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Speaker 3: kind of like the three Ducklings, right, and mcmcbride is.

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Speaker 2: Leading the chart blockers. He's actually he's stinking blockers.

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Speaker 4: He's got the ball and he's actually clearing the way

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So here's the thing. If he needs some motivation, right,

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Speaker 2: easy for Trey McBride and he's posting on he's insane numbers, well,

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Speaker 2: guess what. Guess what? Look over the block wall onto

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say this about Kyle Pitts. For as consistently

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Speaker 4: I also think that game might have been a confluence

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think you got to be worried, Danny,

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Speaker 3: Describing bits that way is a microcosm of describing the Falcons.

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Speaker 3: You've seen good things, but it's not consistent at all.

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Speaker 3: good tight end. Nowhere in near the discussion of what

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Speaker 4: One last quick thing about Trey when we talk about

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Speaker 4: So obviously you would be shocked if he didn't break

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Speaker 4: I I'm gonna say this even if Marvin Harrison returns.

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Speaker 4: There also true he went into that game in LA

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Speaker 3: I love that, I will say though, and maybe it

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Speaker 2: So Saturday night in Houston, I get back to them

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Speaker 2: dub it the tight End Bowl. Not hosted by stinking Gronk.

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Speaker 2: It's hosted by Trey McBride and Kyle Pitts. How about that.

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Speaker 4: I'm okay, I'm looking for any good storylines at this

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Speaker 2: Paul, here's my other thing, and then we'll move off.

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Speaker 2: Trey McBride, Michael Wilson, Marvin Arrison Junior, Trey McBride, when's

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Speaker 3: Well, first, if you're saying last time a team had

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Speaker 3: I mean, not necessarily maybe the level of Trey McBride,

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Speaker 3: And that that a lot a lot can happen between now,

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Speaker 3: Doesn't necessarily mean it's the strength, but I think you're

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Speaker 2: lineman after watching the film, according to Rob Frederickson, and

435
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Speaker 2: that was corroborated by a. Q. Shipley that John Gaines

436
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Speaker 2: at his best game of the year and really did

437
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Speaker 2: look legit against Houston's front.

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Speaker 4: I will say that you couldn't have gotten a better

439
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 4: test for these inexperienced linemen offensive lineman than that Houston defense.

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Speaker 4: And the game did not go the way the Cardinals wanted,

441
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 4: But offensively they weren't. They weren't bad. I mean defensively,

442
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 4: you needed to keep the game closer. But offensively, yeah,

443
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 4: you want to get more points. I get all that.

444
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 4: Can't have an interception in the end zone. But they

445
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Speaker 4: did some things offensively, both running the ball a little

446
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Speaker 4: bit and passing.

447
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Speaker 3: Houston's got the number one defense in the league, daneel

448
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Speaker 3: Hunter and Will Anderson Junior. Not a lot of teams

449
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Speaker 3: have a dynamic duo of coming off the edge like

450
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Speaker 3: those two. And the Cardinals allowed just two sacks, only

451
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Speaker 3: one between those two players, and not a lot of

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Speaker 3: pressure generated by Houston's front. So that was a nice

453
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Speaker 3: outing by a pretty banged up offensive line that was

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Speaker 3: also using rotation on the left side.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Michael Carter told us after the game, there's

456
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Speaker 2: no doubt that the game plan was to run straight up.

457
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Speaker 2: The gut was to target the interior defensive line for Houston,

458
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Speaker 2: considering the premier edge guys they have, you know, it's

459
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Speaker 2: not good. Also is when I had to fact check

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Speaker 2: Craig Grielu during his own show, Red Sea Report when

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Speaker 2: he said the Atlanta Falcons are number two in sacks

462
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Speaker 2: as a team, and I didn't buy it because three

463
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Speaker 2: of the last four years they've been bottom two in sacks,

464
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Speaker 2: and then I looked it up only to realize that

465
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Speaker 2: graylu was correct and they are second to the Denver

466
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Speaker 2: Broncos in sacks. So in terms of all there's.

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Speaker 4: Another test, is that what you're trying to say, what.

468
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Speaker 2: I'm saying is, you know he did pass Every once

469
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Speaker 2: in a while, we got a fact check Greed, just

470
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Speaker 2: to be sure, because that seemed a little, I don't know, unrealistic.

471
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Speaker 2: But man, if they turned around in one year and

472
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Speaker 2: they did invest that first round pick to the Rams,

473
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Speaker 2: who might end up with a top ten pick because

474
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Speaker 2: they traded with the Atlanta Falcons. But James Pierce Junior,

475
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,719
Speaker 2: the kid they took out of Tennessee, leads all rookies

476
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Speaker 2: in sacks, and he's the first rookie to have a

477
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Speaker 2: sack in six straight games since Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 4: Look, you can, you can rip Robert as much as

479
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 4: you want, but he knows his facts. Greed knows his facts.

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Speaker 2: Robert, Yeah, got an inside joke there.

481
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Speaker 4: You should ask him.

482
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: Sometimes I hesitate with this be speaking of asking and questions.

483
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Speaker 4: He'll be mad at me, not you.

484
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: I say, okay, Danny should ask you for an addition

485
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 2: of getting cultured. What about that?

486
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Speaker 3: Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Danny will segue.

488
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Speaker 3: To you getting cultured. With Danny, it is not just

489
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Speaker 3: directed at.

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Speaker 2: Paul am I the default uncultured philistine around here.

491
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Speaker 4: Yes, you got me very excited. Now.

492
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Speaker 3: I am on social media and consume more at pop

493
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Speaker 3: culture than both of you combined.

494
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 2: I think I'm being unfairly profiled. But go ahead, let's go.

495
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: You know who's being profiled. Gen Z by in and Out.

496
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 3: In and Out has officially banned sixty seven from their

497
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: ordering system aka six seven, after the viral video of

498
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Speaker 3: everyone in the video erupting when that order was announced.

499
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Speaker 2: I mean that was like so two months ago, though,

500
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Speaker 2: wasn't it. I mean that's still going on our kids.

501
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 2: There's a a lot of a lot of.

502
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 3: Illegal, illegal issues you gotta work through.

503
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 4: For conmery talking about sixty seven. It hasn't died yet. Hey,

504
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 4: we've got we got winning behavior later.

505
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

506
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Speaker 3: History has been made, though. A world record for most

507
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 3: Golden retrievers assembled in one place has been Don't tell

508
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 3: my wife. A park in Argentina had two thousand, three

509
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety seven goldens all hanging out together.

510
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Speaker 4: Quick question, My wife and I are talking about taking

511
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Speaker 4: a vacation this summer and driving around the northeast, like

512
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 4: the main in New Hampshire, that whole thing. One of

513
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Speaker 4: the things she wants to do is go to this

514
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Speaker 4: Golden retriever's farm and you like, spend an hour just

515
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 4: hanging out with all these dogs. The problem I have

516
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 4: is it's like fifty bucks a person. They're charging you

517
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Speaker 4: to hang and pet dog for an hour. I see,

518
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 4: and people will pay it because they do. Apparent that's America.

519
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Speaker 3: How do you just get a Golden Retriever?

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Speaker 4: It's a hard no Danny I had.

521
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Speaker 3: They're the best dogs.

522
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure they are, but hard not on any

523
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Speaker 4: dog right now, no pets.

524
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Speaker 2: So two days ago, actually what it was the weekend

525
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: and my daughter said something about going somewhere to take

526
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Speaker 2: a picture with Santa. I said, what are you talking about?

527
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 2: I said, oh, no, I.

528
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Speaker 4: Have two teenagers, not Cheeto.

529
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Speaker 2: My wife was taking Cheeto to go get a picture

530
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Speaker 2: with Santa. I love it, thereby proving yet again that

531
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: anything you offer to humans, you can offer two said owners,

532
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: and they'll treat their dog Paul like their kid. I

533
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: where is my billion dollar idea?

534
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 4: I was going to say when Paul started saying, proving

535
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 4: one again once again that Paul has lost control of

536
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Speaker 4: his household.

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Speaker 3: You know, facts one in the same Some news for

538
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 3: the Wags, wives and girlfriends around the NFL. Hailey Steinfeld

539
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 3: and Josh Allen with the Buffalo Bells are expecting their

540
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Speaker 3: first child, and Taylor Swift future missus. Travis Kelsey put

541
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Speaker 3: out of dockuseriies of behind the scenes footage of her

542
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Speaker 3: AARs tour and supposedly I say supposedly because from the

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Speaker 3: clips I saw online this part was bleeped out of

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00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: the docuseries. But she gives handwritten notes to the dancers,

545
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: the crew, the truck drivers around the holidays and to

546
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 3: wrap up the European leg tour, she gives them a

547
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: bonus in addition to their salary, and it's bleeped out

548
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: when someone reads the card of how much she's giving

549
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 3: each individual and reportedly seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars

550
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Speaker 3: to a person.

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Speaker 4: Which there were saying I don't think she says a

552
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 4: lot of.

553
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Speaker 3: Heat online from being shown at her fiance's football games,

554
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Speaker 3: but you got to give props to giving life changing

555
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 3: money to every person involved in your tour?

556
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Speaker 4: I did, I did read. I think it was like

557
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 4: like I think her the backup dancers got like seven

558
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 4: to fifty like some of the truck drivers got like

559
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Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: It was totally like almost two hundred million dollars from

561
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Speaker 3: bonus in addition to the salary.

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Speaker 4: Right, she made what two and a half billion from

563
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Speaker 4: that two?

564
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Speaker 3: Then crazy?

565
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Speaker 2: Is she hiring? Is Taylor Swift Incorporated? Hiring as someone

566
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: who's never listened to an entire Taylor Swift song from

567
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 2: start to finish, not even a song? Can I can

568
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Speaker 2: I apply to be a roadie? Anything? I mean and

569
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 2: do not mean, can I anything?

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Speaker 3: And this last note was written by hand after our

571
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 3: point of this because I saw online I needed to

572
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 3: give a little love to Craig Greelou and Zach Gershman.

573
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 3: Apparently John Cena retired from the w W ME And

574
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 3: I don't really know what else to say about that.

575
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 3: I don't watch, but I know it means something to

576
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: the two of them, So it means something. It was

577
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: exactly you both have been cultured.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome, Okay, So I'm sorry I was. That last

579
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Speaker 2: one was for Craig Zach or Robert Which one was that?

580
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Speaker 2: All the above? Okay, all right, here we go. Let's

581
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: talk about what positions you are watching most closely. The

582
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: last three games all start Walter Nolan.

583
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Speaker 3: Walter in that position. That's player.

584
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: That's okay, he's so big, he's his own zip code,

585
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: he's his own position group. I'm just gonna go Walter Nolan.

586
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna name is that just.

587
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Speaker 4: Because you want to see him progress or you're just entertained? A?

588
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: Oh, you know what? You're right? Are you not entertained?

589
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: I am entertained watching ninety seven? He needs there needs

590
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: to be the old school picture and picture when the

591
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: Cardinals on our offense, just give me a picture and

592
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: picture subset screen of eighty five of Trey McBride, and

593
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: then on defense, I want to picture and picture bottom

594
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: right of Walter Nolan, number ninety seven. It is entertaining

595
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: to watch. He's walking chaos. He just creates havoc. And

596
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: the reason I cite him, in addition to just the

597
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: entertainment factor, he's only played five games, four and a half,

598
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: and so he's in He's at an instant impact. Right.

599
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: We're not even sure if he knows what he's doing

600
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: at the NFL level. We don't even know that. It

601
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. He's just wreaking havoc. And so if he

602
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: can use these last three games to get a little

603
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: more season, get a little more you know those reps

604
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: and you know, like Kalaius Campbell at age thirty nine,

605
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: I asked him, Mike, I said, how much are you

606
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: winning with your mind versus your athleticism compared to eighteen

607
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: years ago when you're winning with athleticism, but maybe your

608
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,239
Speaker 2: football IQ was really low. So you know, I'd love

609
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: to know Walter Nolan to what degree is he just

610
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: winning with insane athleticism right now?

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Speaker 3: It's a blessing and a curse that Nolan is one

612
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 3: of the most disruptive on this defensive line. A blessing

613
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: because he's your first round pick. That's what you want.

614
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: You want that disruption. I say a curse, which sounds intense,

615
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 3: and maybe I don't mean it that intense. But he's

616
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: only played four and a half games and to already

617
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 3: be one of the most disruptive tells me you need

618
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: more from the supporting cast, from everyone around him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, no training camp, no preseason. I mean he

620
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Speaker 2: just stepped in what October he stepped into the end, right,

621
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Speaker 2: I mean he he went almost a year without playing

622
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: a real football game.

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Speaker 4: I would say for me, Uh, the area that I'm

624
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 4: watching is probably going to be the cornerback room. There's

625
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 4: lots of injuries. Uh, Max Meltin has some things to

626
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 4: say on social media, although he's not playing a lot

627
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 4: of defense right now. I think Will Johnson has had

628
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 4: some rookies rookie ups and downs. Uh, you know, you

629
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 4: don't know how much more Jalen Thompson is going to

630
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 4: get back in there. So how much you know is

631
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 4: Rabbit going to be coming back anytime soon? And but

632
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 4: especially the corners, you know, that's a position that you've

633
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 4: put a lot of draft capital towards and you want

634
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 4: to see it paying off. And I think these last

635
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 4: three games or something, you know you're you're gonna be

636
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,239
Speaker 4: a going I can't. I mean, obviously the Falcons have

637
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins and they have some receivers, but I think

638
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 4: Jon Robbins and is their guy on offense. But the

639
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 4: last game, the last two games, Joe Burrow and Matthew Stafford,

640
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: Let's see what you got.

641
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: In his last two games, going against Nico Collins and

642
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: Puka Nakua DeVante Adams. I mean he's learning that life

643
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: in the NFL can really test you. Will Johnson for

644
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: a guy who had a really auspicious start to his

645
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: NFL career, including game number one where he had the

646
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: huge hit, he had an interception that was negated, was

647
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: an unbelievable play step for step with speedster Rashid Shiheed right,

648
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: who by the way, had one hundred yard return against

649
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: these Atlanta Falcons two games ago for Seattle. So Will Johnson, yeah,

650
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: I would agree he could use a strong finish to

651
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Speaker 2: his rookie season akin to how he started this year.

652
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 3: Cornerbacks room, what do you have? What do you have

653
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: in the secondary? When that group, in particular cornerbacks and safeties,

654
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: you have a combination of players who their contracts are

655
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: going to be up, are they going to be going

656
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: into years where they don't have guarantee money. And also

657
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: remember they've been without two of their starting cornerbacks and

658
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: Sean Murphy, Bunting and Darling Thomas all year because of

659
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: off season injuries. So what do you have right now?

660
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: And that's going to require a lot of assessment in

661
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: that area. My top three positions that came to mind

662
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: when thinking about this defensive line, which Paul touched on,

663
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 3: secondary which Darren touched on, which pretty much leaves the

664
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: offensive line. What do you have right now? Center Yelle

665
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: Defrajold is your last man standing? And so what do

666
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 3: you have in the youth and the depth of everybody

667
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: who's getting reps? John Gaines had a really nice game

668
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 3: at left guard. What do you have from Isaiah Adams

669
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 3: at right guard? Who started was bench when while Hernandez

670
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: came back and then starting again when Hernandez got hurt?

671
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 3: Is who are the players you're going to be able

672
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: to have some sort of foundation for years to come

673
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 3: And what are you learning about? Okay, this might be

674
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: a position we're really gonna have to evaluate in the

675
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 3: off season. And again there's a lot of injury, There's

676
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: a lot of factors coming into play. But I think

677
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: that's a position room as a whole where you can

678
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: get some answers these last few games as players get reps.

679
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 2: The other thing I'll throw in there is inside linebacker

680
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 2: just minus Mack Wilson senior at Nauseum. I've talked about

681
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: how I think that's been a real hurdle for the

682
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 2: Cardinals defense. It's impacted him, I think a lot more

683
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 2: than most people realize. Cody Simon getting three more games

684
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: under his belt as a green dot middle linebacker would

685
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: be key. Now where is he with a knee slash

686
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 2: ankle injury? Don't know? He got banged up early. Bam

687
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: Night got banged up really early, had to be carted off.

688
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: And what was unfortunate about that was Cody Simon had

689
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 2: gone against CJ. Stroud so many reps, so many days

690
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: in practice at Ohio State. He had a real level

691
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 2: of familiarity against CJ. Stroud. Now would that have made

692
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: a difference, We have no idea. But there Cody Simon

693
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 2: is still making the transition to the NFL level being

694
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: able to read and react and be that seek and

695
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: destroy linebacker, and so more reps would benefit him greatly.

696
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 3: You mentioned Bam Knight real quickly. This just came out.

697
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 3: Is he hurt his ankle on the first drive for

698
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: the Cardinals offense in Houston. He went in the move,

699
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: medical tent came out limping, had to be carted off,

700
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: did not return. Cardinals just placed him on IR so

701
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 3: he will not return this year.

702
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: I'm not shocked. He could barely put any weight on

703
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: that thing. That's that's that's too bad. So the running

704
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 2: back room right now decimated because Amri de Mercado did

705
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 2: not get very many snaps. So that's still working, yea working.

706
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: His first came back from an ankle injury.

707
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 2: So Michael Carter someone named Corey Kiner, and and then

708
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: will and I kept calling him and Almo knows this,

709
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: kept calling him Ralph Kiner, the former, uh you know,

710
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: the former, the one time Pittsburgh Pirate Hall of Famer, Right,

711
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: so I kept calling him Ralph Kiner. I don't know one.

712
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: So anyway, I.

713
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 4: Understand the reference. That's where you're at history. That's where

714
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 4: you're at.

715
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 2: You know, when you're when when you're on the sideline

716
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: and there are guys in uniform, you're like, wait a minute,

717
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: who's this guy again? And you're looking up numbers and

718
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 2: you know what. There was a whole series of questions

719
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: about that from the media this week to both the

720
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: head coach and the coordinators. How tough does it make

721
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: to evaluate in the face of injuries? Right? And it

722
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: is difficult. I mean, like I was having this debate

723
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: with an Arizona native and longtime Cardinals fan. His father

724
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: has had season tickets ever since eighty eight. I said,

725
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: all right, you're trying to get an evaluation, an assessment

726
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: of where you stand against the division opponents, most in

727
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 2: particular the Niners and Seahawks, because you played them in

728
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: the first month. Well, guess what you led both teams late.

729
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: You lost both games on walk off field goals, triple

730
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: zeros on the clock. So is that more representative of

731
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: where you might be in terms of competing against the

732
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: Seahawks and Niners versus the rematch? Now, I know Niner

733
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: fans are screaming, are you kidding me? No one's been

734
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: more banged up than our team. I get it, I

735
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: do get it. And that's where depth becomes such an

736
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: asset for any team. And there's no doubt the Seahawks

737
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: have rebuilt and they have incredible depth. Right now, the

738
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: Rams goes unset forty nine. Ers have better depth than

739
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people realize. After you lose

740
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: Fred Warner and Nick Boson, even though the defense is

741
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: struggling and they can't get to the quarterback, they're still

742
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: winning games because of everything they do on offense, You're gonna.

743
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: Have to evaluate the season almost in waves. That's a

744
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 3: good point. The offense was a lot healthier at the

745
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 3: start of the year. You had Kyler Murray playing at

746
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 3: the start of the year, and how does that play

747
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 3: into things now. At the same time, again, the run

748
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 3: game was not where it needed to be, right, So

749
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to look and find where you can

750
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: improve in that aspect. We're looking at the defense. Defense

751
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: was more banged up in the first half of the season,

752
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 3: and now they've been relative healthy with the exception of

753
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: Mac Wilson Senior really as of late. So I think

754
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: you're gonna look at the back half of the season

755
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: when you're evaluating the defense, and there's gonna be a

756
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: lot of questions that are gonna have to be answered,

757
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 3: some tougher than most. That running backs room is a

758
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: great example. What do you have left in James Connor

759
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: coming off a pretty gnarly foot injury. What do you

760
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: have in Trey Benson, who's going to be going into

761
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: year three with very minimum reps but from his first

762
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 3: two years because of injury and playing behind Connor. Right,

763
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 3: those are questions they're gonna have to be answering the

764
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 3: off season. That will be tough based on injuries this year.

765
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: Well, maybe the Cardinals can feed off Darren Urban's will

766
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: to rebound after wait a minute now, after suffering to

767
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: defeat last week and wise guy, but bad defeat. But

768
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: we might drug test after this. Darren's pretty hopped up.

769
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: Has a lot of energy right now. And I'm not

770
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: sure exactly what's in that cup of coffee. My grandfather

771
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 2: used to call a coffee royal when he would pour

772
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: his own wine into his coffee cup. Wine wine, because

773
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 2: you really get like some hard liquor. But I know

774
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 2: it was from his father's, my great grand grandfather's wine barrels,

775
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: and it was basically whiter red. It was red, and yeah,

776
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 2: you did not want to drink it unless it was

777
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 2: in a cup of coffee. Put it that way. Oh,

778
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: let's go a wise guy.

779
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: It's time for the wise Guy, the World's Fastest Growing

780
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: Cardinals Quiz Show. The steaks are low, the winner gets

781
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Here's your hostess with the mostess Denny's.

782
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: Right.

783
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: Well, this is new ladies and gentlemen. Paul as our

784
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 3: reigning champ, gets first speak of the questions, which means

785
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 3: he cannot complain if he gets them wrong.

786
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 2: That is true, gets them w that's true, can't blame me.

787
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: I like the use of the word if instead of

788
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 2: when he gets them wrong. All right, let's go number two.

789
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: I don't know a lot of names in these questions.

790
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest. Chili Tea, bass and Left Eye

791
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 3: form this Atlanta in a bass R and B. We did,

792
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 3: I so Paul's face right, there is reaction form this

793
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 3: Atlanta based R and B and hip hop group. In

794
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety they famously told the world they didn't quote

795
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: want no scrubs and advise against chasing waterfalls, encouraging everyone

796
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 3: to stick to the rivers and lakes were used to.

797
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: All right, so it was what it was? It was

798
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 2: t bone and Ribbi. What was the what was it again?

799
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: Chili te Balls and Left Eye. So pretty close?

800
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty close.

801
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

802
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: As you can tell, I have a real fighting chance

803
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 2: in answering this question correctly. And it's the name of

804
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: this group, that's what we're asking.

805
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: But you actually, I wouldn't know this because I know

806
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: this the song referenced.

807
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 2: All right, So here we go, Backstreet Boys.

808
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 4: You horrible is I can't think of the name of

809
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 4: the group, And now I'm so upset because I know

810
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 4: I should know it, and i know I'm gonna get

811
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 4: mad as soon as you say it. Any guests drawing

812
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 4: a blank.

813
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 3: TLC, which now I'm realizing is just the first letter

814
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: of all their names.

815
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 4: Which is really stupid of me.

816
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: Apparently. I was also known for accidentally burning down the

817
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 3: home of former Falcons wide receiver Andre Risen.

818
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 4: Was also She also died in a car accident after that.

819
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: All right, yeah, I should have known that, And I'm

820
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 4: not happy at all. And after the Matt Liner thing,

821
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 4: I'm maybe getting close to retirement, but I'm gonna go

822
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 4: with number one.

823
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: Please, Okay, I believe in you here, Darren. This former

824
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 3: center was part of the Cardinals pivotal two thousand and

825
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 3: four draft class, which also included Larry Fitzgerald, Carlos Dansby,

826
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: and Darnell Dockett. He spent three seasons in Arizona before

827
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: finishing his career with the Falcons in two thousand and eight.

828
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 3: Who is he?

829
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 4: Alexd Panovich?

830
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: Correct, Daren's in the lead?

831
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: All right?

832
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 4: Did you know that one?

833
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 2: No?

834
00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 4: Just check it.

835
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 2: I mean, I certainly remember Alex Dapanovich. I think I

836
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: even remember where his locker is. I just didn't remember him.

837
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's go here.

838
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:06,959
Speaker 3: He doesn't listen?

839
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll go number one. We'll go number

840
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 2: one here.

841
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 4: Think he doesn't listen.

842
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 3: I Paul doesn't listen because you just chose question number one,

843
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 3: so that's not available. Paul. Do you have three or four?

844
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,959
Speaker 2: Dang it? All right? Oh, I stay away from three.

845
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 2: I'm going four. Stay I learned the hard way three

846
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: weeks in a row not to go with number three.

847
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 4: By the way, the Houston press box announcer called him

848
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 4: for half the game, butta but the baker.

849
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 2: That's good. I'm sorry.

850
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 3: Go ahead, there we go, along with players Dion Sanders

851
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 3: and Andre Rizen. This former Falcons head coach made a

852
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 3: guest appearance in mc hammer's iconic Too Legit to Quit

853
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: music video.

854
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: It can only be Jerry Glanville.

855
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 3: Correct, we're tied.

856
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 2: Good, big personality.

857
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Darren, if you get this right, you win. After

858
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 3: stints with the Jets and Falcons, this former pass rusher

859
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 3: recorded eleven and a half sacks in seventeen games with

860
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 3: the Cardinals in her a Pro Bowl selection in twenty

861
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: thirteen for his performance.

862
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 4: Come on, John Abraham, come.

863
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 3: On, Darren is back in the wind.

864
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: Callum, I should have gone number three. Hang it, okay,

865
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: John Abraham, hmmm, alrighty. By the way, I can't believe

866
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 2: I did no TLC pass rush. Let's talk pass rush

867
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 2: for in honor of John Abraham and coming off the edge.

868
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 2: Mister Josh Sweat, what was the his quote to you

869
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks.

870
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: Ago getting chipped into oblivion?

871
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: There you go.

872
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 4: So it was the way Danny just delivered that which

873
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 4: would have made.

874
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: It so these these last three games, we just cited

875
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: all this other, all these other you know, I mean,

876
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 2: we're making all this checking it twice. T is the season, right,

877
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: what you want for the holidays? What about someone not

878
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: named Josh Sweat getting home against the quarterback? And I'm

879
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 2: talking about off the edge. I'm talking about Baron Brownie,

880
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: Jordan Birch, Zavan Collins, b Joe Jila. Your takeaway from

881
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 2: sideline exchange last week with b Joe Jelari, by the way,

882
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 2: anything if I ask you, okay, what stood out the most?

883
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: What would you say the fact that he is still

884
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: working back to himself. He had a gnarly knee injury.

885
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: He missed the entire season last year, missed majority of

886
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 3: the season. This year, he didn't play football for four

887
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: hundred some days. So he practiced and he played that

888
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: first game, and he's kind of getting his wind back

889
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: underneath him and getting comfortable again, and he's understanding is

890
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,479
Speaker 3: going to take some time. But there are some things

891
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 3: he feels like he's put out on tape, but he

892
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,959
Speaker 3: knows it's going to take time and knows he needs

893
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 3: to perform these last few weeks.

894
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: If you go to the fifty yard run by the

895
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 2: Hamilton running back whose name escapes me because he was

896
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: on the practice squad until this last.

897
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 4: Week, Joe Hard Jordan.

898
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: He so he gets loose for the fifty yard or if.

899
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: You will, I'm sorry, Houston, Houston's you just said Hamilton,

900
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: and I'm think because he went too I didn't know that.

901
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 4: And now he's on Houston on the practice squad and

902
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 4: he had yards again.

903
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 2: He actually was in the he was in the Broadway

904
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: play Hamilton, and so on the fifty.

905
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 3: Yard talking football or something.

906
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: Fifty yard run, there's b Joe Julari given chase and

907
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: you can tell he's still coming back from the injury,

908
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: so AI give him props for you know, as he

909
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: explained to the media, wasn't one, wasn't two. Three different

910
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: ligaments had to be repaired, And so I think I'm

911
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: guessing that he's going to be the classic case where

912
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: he'll be a different player in year two after the

913
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 2: knee injury, hopefully, which.

914
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: Is what this defense will need because next year will

915
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 3: be year four for Jalaari and and that's a position

916
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 3: room we didn't talk about. When what are you keeping

917
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: Rye on? That's that's a great position room. Is what

918
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 3: do you have? You know you haven't Josh Sweatt. I

919
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: mean you've gotten every penny of that splash signing this

920
00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 3: offseason that that was fantastic. You need more from play

921
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 3: around him. You need more players taking advantage of Sweat

922
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 3: winning that way when an offense gives him attention, you're

923
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 3: winning off the back end.

924
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 4: And it's I don't want to deviate off of what

925
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 4: we're talking about here, but it's funny that you talk

926
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 4: about Ojelari needing that next season because like over the weekend,

927
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 4: there were two gigantic ACL injuries that rock the NFL

928
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 4: world with Michael Parsons and Patrick Mahomes, and my first

929
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 4: thought wasn't will they be back next year? My first

930
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 4: thought was they won't be back to where they really

931
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 4: want to be until twenty twenty seven.

932
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: I thought your first thought was that you don't know

933
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 3: a lot of athletes to get ACL surgery the day

934
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 3: after hurting it, Like Patrick.

935
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if yeah, I saw I.

936
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: Darren, what did you step into.

937
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 4: So that I'm the chiefs tweet that Patrick Mahomes had

938
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 4: surgery yesterday Monday. I just tweeted, I quote tweeted it,

939
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 4: and I said, I don't think I've ever heard of

940
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 4: a player getting ACL surgery the day after he gets hurt.

941
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 4: For my long career, most of the time there is

942
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 4: a gap after the injury because of swelling or whatever,

943
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 4: and they certainly don't go on the next day, and

944
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 4: it's usually a week or two at the earliest that

945
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 4: they have the surgery. I was just making comment about myself,

946
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 4: and holy hell, did that unleash all kinds of do

947
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 4: you use.

948
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: Your own Twitter account to speak your mind?

949
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 4: The number of people that I angered by saying that,

950
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 4: which I don't think is that crazy, But like I've

951
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 4: gotten more engagement. There's like fifteen thousand likes on this,

952
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 4: there's like five hundred and fifty bookmarks. Why you would

953
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 4: want to bookmark that and go back to it later.

954
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 4: I have no idea the number of people that think

955
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 4: I'm stupid or they wanted to say, oh, well, the

956
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 4: next time, he'll just ask you when he has to

957
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 4: have a surgery.

958
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: I was just.

959
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 4: Saying, I'm like, I just and and look, I reached

960
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 4: out to.

961
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 2: I have an assistant, I have people who do that

962
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: for me.

963
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 4: I had a couple of I have a couple of

964
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 4: close friends that have been in this business for a

965
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 4: long time, Paul Corral and Ken Summers, and I let

966
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 4: them know about this, and they were both like, yeah,

967
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 4: that is kind of that. I've never heard of somebody

968
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 4: going onder the knife for an ACL the very next

969
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 4: day either. So I'm not I'm not crazy. So but

970
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 4: I just don't know why. I don't know why it

971
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 4: got so much traction. But whatever.

972
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so two thoughts. One, I think you just

973
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: found out what the NFL knows the popularity of Patrick Mahomes.

974
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 2: This is true, Travis Kelcey, Taylor Swift, the whole Chiefs factor, right,

975
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: didn't they have the most watched regular season game ever

976
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving Day? Right?

977
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 4: Probably yep.

978
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: So it was Chiefs and Cowboys. So in three four

979
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: five Park Avenue, you can bet that they shed a

980
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: tear when the Chiefs were officially eliminated from the postseason,

981
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: and all the TV networks they're up in arms over that.

982
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 2: And Darren just found out why I.

983
00:48:55,239 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 3: Saw a tweet poking fun almost at like, Okay, the

984
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 3: the league wanted to try and take over Christmas from

985
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 3: the NBA while the teams are now playing on Christmas.

986
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: A Patrick Mahomes list Chiefs team that's already been eliminated

987
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 3: for the playoffs, a not very good Vikings team, and

988
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 3: the third team which is escaping me. But the point.

989
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 4: Is is the Cowboys playing on Christmas?

990
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 3: Is that? Are you being serious?

991
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no no no. I'm trying to guess,

992
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 4: like eliminated, it is.

993
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: The Cowboys and the Commanders. So it was just kind

994
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 3: of poking from the NFL was trying to take over

995
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 3: Christmas from the NBA and all the teams they scheduled

996
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 3: well not great games.

997
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 4: As a capper on this whole tweet thing, it's one

998
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 4: thing if they're all mad at me and whatever. The

999
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 4: number of people and it's more than one suggesting that

1000
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes didn't really tear his acl and he's getting

1001
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 4: it repaired the next day because he didn't really get hurt.

1002
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 4: And this is they didn't quite say it, but the

1003
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 4: implication was kind of like a Michael Jordan esque thing

1004
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 4: where it's like they just want to get he's not

1005
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 4: making the playoffs, so we're going to move him out

1006
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 4: of the way for the rest.

1007
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: It's just, wow, well, these are the.

1008
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 4: People out there that are voting people.

1009
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 2: Well, Darren, that's that's what you get when you stay

1010
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 2: at whatever hotel it is that you wake up the

1011
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 2: next day as a doctor, you know. Express Yeah, there

1012
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 2: you go. So, uh, you just got to stay in

1013
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: your lane.

1014
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 4: I've been tweeting for all this time. Somebody did say that.

1015
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 4: Somebody actually said.

1016
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: Medical Cardinals media again, maybe you.

1017
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 4: Shouldn't be putting your opinion out there. I'm like, again,

1018
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 4: like it was a thought, It wasn't even.

1019
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 3: A what else are you just to use Twitter for?

1020
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: All? Right? So there, which brings us to the following.

1021
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 2: Jonathan gannontell in the media to start the week that yes,

1022
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: he worries about that week's opponent almost entirely, almost entirely,

1023
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: but he does take notes as to what he will

1024
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 2: address in the off season. And you know, because if

1025
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 2: you keep doing if something isn't working, you keep doing

1026
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: the same thing I'm paraphrasing now loosely from JG. Then

1027
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 2: you know it wouldn't be very wise do not change

1028
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: it up? So okay, and then the follow up question was, well,

1029
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: is anything off the top of your head that you

1030
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: would want to change going forward or at least you're

1031
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: gonna have to look at addressing in the offseason, and

1032
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 2: he cited two things, one health, player health, and then

1033
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: player development. Okay, So, whether it's all these young guys

1034
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: twenty eight draft picks in three years, a bunch of

1035
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 2: other undrafted rookies who have made the final fifty three

1036
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: or have seen playing time, So whether it's bringing those

1037
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 2: players along and getting them, you know, improving them, getting

1038
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: them to the next level in terms of their skill

1039
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 2: set and their production, or something that to me in

1040
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 2: a lot of ways seems out of the realm of

1041
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 2: the head coach, which is player health. But maybe in

1042
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 2: terms of how you're practicing or what you're doing or

1043
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: the preparation, either in camp or what have you to

1044
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 2: get ready for the riggers of a seventeen game regular

1045
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: season soon to be an eighteen game regular season. Then

1046
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: maybe there is something you can do as a head coach.

1047
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 3: I think I think it's fair for a gam and

1048
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 3: to say that when you're looking at the rash of injuries,

1049
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: not necessarily to point fingers. Is there a pattern? What

1050
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 3: can we learn from what is preventable? Right? What can

1051
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 3: we work on to try and eliminate? So your injuries

1052
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 3: are always gonna happen, right, But what can you do

1053
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 3: what can you control to try and limit some of these,

1054
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 3: to prevent some of these? That's what I take when

1055
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 3: I hear the health is kind of how can you

1056
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 3: learn from these injuries and try and prevent some of

1057
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 3: them moving forward?

1058
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: Now, this is just my own observation. I'm gonna I'm

1059
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: gonna pull a Darren all right, I'm gonna get out

1060
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: of my lane. Read this as a sideline reporter. It's

1061
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: not bad. I'll give you the light one. It's not bad.

1062
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 3: You won last week.

1063
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: Here's the theory. I think the number is fourteen. There

1064
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 2: are fourteen teams in the NFL. With natural grass fields.

1065
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: If I'm a free agent and I have two offers

1066
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: in the same neighborhood in terms of money right compensation,

1067
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: and one of them has a natural grass field, I

1068
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: would think that that would be really attractive as opposed

1069
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: to playing at certain fields that have certain reputations for

1070
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 2: not having great turf. But when the Cardinals go up

1071
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: to Seattle and they're playing on that turf and it's

1072
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: sort of a singular turf in a lot of ways,

1073
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: and that guys tend to slide on that turf and

1074
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: then their foot grabs at the last second, you get traction,

1075
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: and you play up there once a year, and a

1076
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: lot of guys are playing up there for the very

1077
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 2: first time. When you have a young team, are they

1078
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 2: unaccustomed to the plane's surface and hence more vulnerable or

1079
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: apt to incur an injury? When you go to Houston

1080
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 2: and there's a rash injuries right off the bat, how

1081
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 2: much of that has to do with all of a sudden,

1082
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 2: now you're on an artificial surface versus you're accustomed to

1083
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 2: practicing and playing unnatural grass fields. That's just me thinking

1084
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: out loud, thought Bubble. It might be a lot of

1085
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: blowback back from people on Twitter. Whether it's legit or

1086
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 2: worthwhile or not, I don't know, but I will say

1087
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 2: I've had that thought more than once.

1088
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 3: Correct me if I'm wrong. I know that I'm not.

1089
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 3: The Cardinals go to MetLife next year to play the Giants.

1090
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 2: Oh they do.

1091
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 3: That's why I.

1092
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 4: Think if I'm wrong.

1093
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: George Kittle for his opinion on the MetLife surface.

1094
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 4: Are you working for the nfl PA now? Just wondering, Well,

1095
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 4: they are. The new agreement, the new CBA is coming around.

1096
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 4: They're going to mandate certain standards for the artificial turf fields,

1097
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 4: and you're only gonna be able to select from like

1098
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 4: a handful of different services.

1099
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 3: Taking that long.

1100
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, it's a fantastic considering how much owners have

1101
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: invested into players and player payrolls, why would you skimp

1102
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: on the plane surface or take any chances with the

1103
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 2: plane surface?

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00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 4: You know, like MetLife it's fair. But at the same time,

1105
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 4: like Patrick Mahone just towards ACL and he was on grass,

1106
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 4: I mean, those things are going to happen.

1107
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 3: So did he did he tear?

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00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: Oh?

1109
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 4: God, that's good.

1110
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 2: Please tell me you're gonna drop that spoken like Danny's

1111
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 2: burner account. All right, So based on all that, what

1112
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 2: do we have left your winning behavior? Winning behavior? Here

1113
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 2: we go? Can you display winning behavior?

1114
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 5: You have to consistently display winning behavior.

1115
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 2: That's winning behavior.

1116
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 3: You've got to define what winning behavior is and hold

1117
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 3: people to that standard.

1118
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: Yes, you can set the second hand of your watch

1119
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: to be consistently missing the queue for winning behavior every week.

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00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 2: I forget about it. You are.

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00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 4: You're pretty close there. You you rest. If I hadn't

1122
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 4: said anything, you would have rescued yourself. I have to

1123
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 4: bring this up because our old friend Tony Jefferson got ejected,

1124
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 4: ejected the other day, and you got it wasn't for this.

1125
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 4: I just thought this was funny. The winning behavior in

1126
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 4: this case is coming from my wife, Chris, who I

1127
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 4: got home from the road trip in Houston, and we

1128
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 4: got home early enough that she was still up. It

1129
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 4: was eight o'clock, seven thirty whatever it was, and she's like,

1130
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 4: did you hear that Tony Jefferson got ejected today? And

1131
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 4: I said, oh, yes, the boy my son's made sure

1132
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 4: in real time that I understand what happened. And she's like,

1133
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,439
Speaker 4: what exactly happened? I said, well, he got, he got

1134
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 4: he hit a guy and then he got I think

1135
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 4: he got ejected for an obscene gesture. And my wife,

1136
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 4: without missing a beat, she said, did he do the

1137
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 4: six seventh thing? Oh? Come on, I thought that was

1138
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 4: very funny. That is winning behavior for my wife to

1139
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 4: go right in. I don't know exactly what gesture Tony did,

1140
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 4: and I'm pretty sure it wasn't for the six seventh thing,

1141
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 4: and I'll be honest, like in the moment when I

1142
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 4: saw the replay, I understand why people had issues with

1143
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 4: the hit. I was kind of on the fence on

1144
00:56:55,239 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 4: whether it was something that should have been ejectable. I'm

1145
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 4: not sure what he exactly got ejected for, but that

1146
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 4: got ugly quickly.

1147
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 3: The NFL might follow suit from In and Out and

1148
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 3: Van six seven.

1149
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 2: All right, Old Man Rivers. Guess what the NFL might

1150
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: have struck out with their Christmas Day matchups now with injuries.

1151
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: But they just hit a home run with putting Old

1152
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: Man Rivers on Monday Night football this week. That's gonna be.

1153
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 4: I was crushed were I'm trying to follow on the plane.

1154
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 4: The internet is spotty in terms of getting streaming. You

1155
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 4: saw on there that the Colts somehow hit the sixty

1156
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 4: yard field goal that take the lead with less than

1157
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 4: a minute left. I'm like, oh my god, now I

1158
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 4: am going to apologize publicly because on our pregame radio show,

1159
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 4: Danny remembers this. I basically said there was only two

1160
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 4: ways the Colts game was gonna go for Philip Rivers,

1161
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 4: which was either bad or all time ugly. And they

1162
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 4: almost won that game. So props to the Colts and

1163
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 4: Philip Rivers, and of course the Seahawks wounded everything.

1164
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: Darren, You've had a lot of apologies this week. I

1165
00:57:58,640 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: mean really, it's a lot of.

1166
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 3: MAY think he just said I'm sorry. I think he

1167
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 3: was just reminding everyone what he said.

1168
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: Okay, all right.

1169
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 4: I think this last one though, is is Danny's special Yeah,

1170
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 4: I mean it's not Houston.

1171
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, so I saw this. So the World Cup

1172
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 3: is playing in Arlington, and the World Cup does not

1173
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 3: allow sponsor names on any of their stadiums. So At

1174
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 3: and T Stadium in Arlington, where the Dallas Cowboys play,

1175
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 3: will be known for the World Cup World Cup as

1176
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 3: the Dallas Stadium. But it's not in Dallas and it's

1177
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 3: not super close to Dallas, which is just ironic on

1178
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 3: all sorts of levels for the Dallas Cowboys playing Arlington

1179
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 3: and now on the world stage it will be the

1180
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 3: Dallas Stadium, even though it's the Arlington DAX payers who

1181
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 3: paid for that.

1182
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 4: So if it'd be like if what if World Cup

1183
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 4: was being played at State Farm Stadium and they decided

1184
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 4: to call it the Tucson Stadium.

1185
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 3: Or the Phoenix Stadium.

1186
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 2: I noticed. So there's disdain between Houston in Dallas. Let's

1187
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 2: get back to that. Okay, So at what let do

1188
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 2: you want to know? Well, I'm trying to think like

1189
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: bring it on, Paul, you know, like Tucson versus Phoenix.

1190
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 2: Like for example, b Jon Robinson is from Tucson, correct,

1191
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: So is he coming to town looking to take it

1192
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: out probably on the erstwhile Phoenix Cardinals? Is that what's

1193
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 2: going on here? We'll see.

1194
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 4: I would like to know as somebody who actually is

1195
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,959
Speaker 4: from Dallas, like are you are you born? Is it?

1196
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 4: Is it nature or nurture in terms of hatreds.

1197
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 3: I think it's nurture. I think you just go to

1198
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 3: Houston and you don't really have great experiences a lot

1199
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 3: of time. I mean it was a middle of December.

1200
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 3: Why was it as humid? As it was. The traffic

1201
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 3: is oh, the traffic other worldly. It's horrible. It's just

1202
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 3: it's not great. It's not great in a lot of

1203
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 3: facilities there there they're baseball team cheats. I don't know

1204
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 3: what you want me to.

1205
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: Say, right, Wow, I should have started with this. Okay,

1206
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 2: all right, I think it's a good mic drop. Okay,

1207
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 2: not bad. Uh yeah. I can't add to that, and

1208
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to do anything to trigger Bjon Robinson.

1209
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 2: There's nothing I want to say bad about Tucson, you know,

1210
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: like like the official city tree is a telephone pole.

1211
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to say anything like that about Tucson.

1212
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 3: I I do want to make note. While I'm not

1213
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 3: great at the picks this year, shocker, I did. I

1214
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 3: did make the playoffs in both of my fantasy football

1215
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 3: leagues and I won both of those games.

1216
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 2: Wow.

1217
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 3: So that's what really matters.

1218
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 4: Well, as long as you bring it up the picks,

1219
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 4: that is, Danny Paul is closing quickly on me.

1220
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 3: Paul can't win. He's a cheater.

1221
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 2: He's like the aspeaking of cheating. Wasn't I two games behind?

1222
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 2: Last week? I pick up a game and I'm still

1223
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 2: two games behind do we have double check the math?

1224
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 3: He can't win, you cheated.

1225
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 4: I'm putting all that in Cody's bucket over there. But

1226
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 4: according to this, I went nine and six, I'm one

1227
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 4: thirty four and seventy five. You went ten and five,

1228
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 4: You're one thirty two and seventy seven. According to this,

1229
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 4: Danny went eight and seven is one twenty five and

1230
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 4: eighty four. I can only hope that Cody isn't lacking

1231
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 4: in his math skills, but I can't say for sure.

1232
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: Cody. Yeah, we're gonna need a double check on that one. Uh,

1233
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 2: you know, we got September baseball right here. We've got

1234
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 2: a playoff push, a pennant chase, and boom.

1235
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Speaker 4: If you are going to the Falcons game, though, all

1236
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 4: almost all merchandise at the team shop will be fifty

1237
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 4: percent off, including rivalry merchandise.

1238
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 2: Nice little holidays.

1239
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 4: Say you want to go Christmas shop a little bit

1240
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 4: at the game Sunday, stop by.

1241
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, about a Michael Wilson jersey, Trey McBride jersey. That's uh, oh, yeah,

1242
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 2: you guys are lucky. See if and I'm gonna this

1243
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: is I'm gonna leave it with this. If Michael Wilson

1244
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: had gone off again. Then I was gonna come with

1245
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: something along the lines of remember Lynn Sanity, Jeremy Lynch.

1246
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 2: I was gonna it's not gonna work something up along

1247
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 2: the lines of will Sanity Michael Wilson. But you're better

1248
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 2: off for me not actually going down there.

1249
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 4: I'm glad.

1250
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not as good as Darren's Twitter account

1251
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 2: and all the blowback. We're just gonna basking the glow

1252
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 2: of Big Darren taking a massive social media beat down.

1253
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 2: How about that? And that'll do it for this edition

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