WEBVTT - Fred Durst vs. The World

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth Dutton Zaren Burnett. So good to see how you see?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good good. Another question for you while you're on

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<v Speaker 2>a roll, m H, do you know it's ridiculous? I

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<v Speaker 2>do I know it's ridiculous? Do you do? You really?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>The start of the year always brings a wave of

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<v Speaker 4>fitness pressure. Don't you think fitness pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>I can recognize from the town.

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<v Speaker 4>But for Natural Light fans, the real frustration isn't the

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<v Speaker 4>gym crowd. I mean, what would do you think would

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<v Speaker 4>be most frustrating for fans of the beard, natural Light.

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<v Speaker 2>Beer, God full employment.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not fitness pressure, is that they are months from

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<v Speaker 4>mowing season. The grass is dormant, the mower is collecting dust,

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<v Speaker 4>and those who swear by a good backyard cutter left

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<v Speaker 4>pacing on rubber treadmills, wondering why no one has invented

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<v Speaker 4>a better option. They really they do, because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>here's the thing, like, if you want to talk stereotypes,

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<v Speaker 4>you got the natty light drinker mowing a lawn.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, Uh, they really don't know their market.

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<v Speaker 4>No, they don't. What they've done in.

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<v Speaker 2>Order to I've never met a Natural Light drinker who

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<v Speaker 2>gave a wink about their lawn.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh see, you didn't live down south.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, I'm including that part. There is definitely that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying I haven't met them. You have you

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<v Speaker 2>just you know.

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<v Speaker 4>You got your John D.

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<v Speaker 2>Rad Moor, Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 4>Or the zero turning radius where you're like, this is

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<v Speaker 4>a circle around, you get a couple of natty lights

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<v Speaker 4>in you you go do that lawn.

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<v Speaker 2>See, I'd like to believe that they drink better beer

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<v Speaker 2>than that. I know in a bunch of them.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't, Okay, they don't.

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<v Speaker 4>And you put it in a koozie. Yeah, son, listen, listen,

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<v Speaker 4>bo you've got to put it into koozy or anyway. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>they've developed something. Natural Light Beer is revealing a first

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<v Speaker 4>of its kind ter treadmill that was engineered to simulate

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<v Speaker 4>the simple joy of mowing the lawn. It's called the treadmower,

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<v Speaker 4>and so it's as the favorite beer brand of grass

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<v Speaker 4>whisperers and garage enthusiasts. It's traditioned for Natural Light fans

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<v Speaker 4>to crack a well earned natty after mowing those beautiful

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<v Speaker 4>green stripes into their lawn with the treadmower. Natural light

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<v Speaker 4>is uniting fans around their favorite pastime, even as the

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<v Speaker 4>temperatures drop, since it's always summer in the garage, not

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<v Speaker 4>my garage. My garage is freezing anyway. Kristin Stowe, who's

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<v Speaker 4>head of marketing at Bush Family and Natural Family Annheuser

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<v Speaker 4>Bush Yes, said quote, there's nothing like the smell of

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<v Speaker 4>fresh cut grass and an ice cold natty in your

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<v Speaker 4>hand after a perfect mow. But winter shuts down the

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<v Speaker 4>lawn and that's where the treadmower comes in. The garage

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<v Speaker 4>is where our fans fell most at home. No fluorescent light,

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<v Speaker 4>it's no crowds, just uninterrupted mowing glory and a cold

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<v Speaker 4>bear with enrage. Some things like a perfect cut and

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<v Speaker 4>a natti shouldn't have a season. She needs to be fired.

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<v Speaker 4>I call for her immediate termination. The thing is, there's

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<v Speaker 4>only one, there's only one tread mow. Where they just

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<v Speaker 4>made one.

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<v Speaker 2>Of them was more like bud light to me.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's more of a bud light thing. You can

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<v Speaker 4>enter to win the tread mower. Why and uh and

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<v Speaker 4>so you have to be twenty one and over. It's

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<v Speaker 4>there's only one. If you win it, you get the

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<v Speaker 4>only one there is. There's a picture of it album.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Zaren, Can I tell you something? I found this

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<v Speaker 4>in time. This came to us from p Aka Teley

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<v Speaker 4>Fox on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello Pey Fox.

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<v Speaker 4>I found it in time, and you know what I

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<v Speaker 4>can tell you. I entered you to win it. Hand

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<v Speaker 4>to God I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Between you and Tely Fox. I'm raising my hand to God.

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<v Speaker 4>How great would that be? If you just, like you

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<v Speaker 4>know how people have like a standing desk, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have like a treadmill or recording situation where you're on there,

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<v Speaker 4>just all chugging back natty lights.

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<v Speaker 2>On and back, trying to forget my life choices. It

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<v Speaker 2>led me to this, Well.

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<v Speaker 4>If you feel a little crazy, maybe like sprinkle crystal

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<v Speaker 4>light in one of them, A little taki for you,

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<v Speaker 4>No for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't drink. I just watch, Yeah, I just watch.

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<v Speaker 2>I know like crystal light.

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<v Speaker 4>Though, so I know I'll lend you one of my little.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you I'll keep you.

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<v Speaker 4>Run a line of crystal light into it, you rail

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<v Speaker 4>rail of crystal into the natty you live in the life?

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<v Speaker 2>Son?

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<v Speaker 4>Why yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>That welcome I have so many questions answered.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, you don't even need Elizabeth. Thank you

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<v Speaker 4>so much for thinking of me and entering me into

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<v Speaker 4>this contest. Oh my god, honey, No, don't worry about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I can get you the number of that marketing lady too.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even want to be mean to her, but like, really,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what you do with your one wildlife.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone you know what, everyone brings their own gift to

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<v Speaker 4>the party.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, yes, this is the worst white elephant party.

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<v Speaker 4>This is what I do.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got some ridiculous for you please, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>very much in the spirit of what you just said.

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<v Speaker 2>It me synergy. Yeah. So the lead singer slash rapper

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<v Speaker 2>for lint Biscuit, Fred Durst.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my, that's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Roll credits is a production. There's actually way more. I've

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<v Speaker 2>got a really fun one for you today, Elizabeth. It's

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<v Speaker 2>Fred Durst Versus the World. I'm gonna need that treadmore

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<v Speaker 2>and the Natye. This is Ridiculous Crime a podcast about

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<v Speaker 2>absurd and outrageous capers, heist and cons. It's always ninety

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<v Speaker 2>nine percent murder free and one hundred percent ridiculous. It's

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<v Speaker 2>ridiculous it's murder.

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<v Speaker 4>Free. Murder is the case that they gave me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, then you got free of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know that. That's where close your eyes my

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<v Speaker 4>eyes are closed comes from. I know that you know

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<v Speaker 4>that snoops, murder is the case my eyes are closed.

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<v Speaker 2>But as you say up top, there's no one big,

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<v Speaker 2>singular crime in this story. Instead, it's a series of crimes.

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<v Speaker 2>Micro crimes, yes, summer traditional crimes involve cops and judges.

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<v Speaker 2>Others are just crimes against good taste.

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<v Speaker 4>I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I need to ask what are your thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>about Fred Durst, like back in the day, did you

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<v Speaker 2>ever see him or worse yet, meet him or has

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<v Speaker 2>your brother ever shared a stage with him?

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<v Speaker 4>I've not met him. I know they were on the

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<v Speaker 4>Warped tour when a bunch of my friends were on it, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>and they weren't fans of Okay, by the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the thing, you know, it was that whole rap rock

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<v Speaker 4>thing I never got into.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, not my bag the no, No, this is more

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<v Speaker 2>like rap metal. But yeah, but they were in rock categories.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not wrong, Okay, rap metal.

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<v Speaker 2>Met to set the stage. I want to have Fred

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<v Speaker 2>Durst speak for himself. Oh no, because credit to him,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not going to actually be on the show, but

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<v Speaker 2>he knows who he is.

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<v Speaker 4>I was so scared. I was like looking at the door, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Bar the doors, Fred, do you want to come into

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<v Speaker 2>the room? For instance. Also, you see this red hat

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<v Speaker 2>bobbing along.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 2>So, he says the character Fred Durst was a monster

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<v Speaker 2>of his own making in an interview.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that's that's a good retcon there, of like

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<v Speaker 4>when you just geeze everybody off and they're like no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>So my character works.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I meant to do that. It's all genius. So

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<v Speaker 2>in an interview with the music outlet Metal Hammer, Durst said,

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<v Speaker 2>and I quote, I always knew the guy in the

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<v Speaker 2>red cap was not me. I'm doctor Frankenstein and that's

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<v Speaker 2>my creature. Being a breakdancer, a graffiti artist, a tattoo

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<v Speaker 2>artist and liking rock and hip hop was too much.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a conscious effort to create Fred Durst, and

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<v Speaker 2>eventually I had to bring that guy out more than

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to. It took on a life of its own.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to check into that character, the gorilla, the thing,

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<v Speaker 2>the red cap guy. It's a painful transformation but I

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<v Speaker 2>do it because that's what I was taught to do

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<v Speaker 2>when you have people pulling at you.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a painful transformation, right from.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Jekyll and mister Hide. It seems to delicate that

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<v Speaker 2>he's pulling.

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<v Speaker 4>But well he's going from absolute delicate and actual too

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<v Speaker 4>man who buys loose cigarettes in the parking lot of

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<v Speaker 4>a gas station.

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<v Speaker 2>It's quite a transformation. So does this that quote make

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<v Speaker 2>you feel for fred Durst now just a little bit?

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<v Speaker 5>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>No, Well, at the moment, fred Durst is currently battling

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<v Speaker 2>a giant trying to get some justice, or rather, he's

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get paid money. He feels he's owed. But

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<v Speaker 2>you may be wondering, Zaren, who is this giant in

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<v Speaker 2>this David vers Goliath story?

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<v Speaker 4>The guy from the succession, the tall guy from succession.

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<v Speaker 2>No good guys, cousin Greg? Yeah, No, it's Universal Music Group.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year, Headlines reported on the feud between Fred Durst

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<v Speaker 2>and his band Limp Biscuit versus Universal Music Group Limp Biscuit.

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<v Speaker 2>They apparently filed a lawsuit against UMG, claiming that the

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<v Speaker 2>music label had cheated them out of like get this,

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<v Speaker 2>about two hundred million dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>Two hundred millions. Yes, I mean I believe the cheating part.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, hello, but like.

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<v Speaker 2>They rowed two hundred million.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess they did. People did like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess right. Tune to two hundred million missing. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not the total amount of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Mad I mean, you've already bought a lot of ski.

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<v Speaker 2>News exactly, so it's a variety report on the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote Ombiscuit originally claimed UMG designed and implemented royalty software

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<v Speaker 2>and systems that were deliberately designed to conceal artists royalties

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<v Speaker 2>and keep those profits for itself. UMG filed its motion

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<v Speaker 2>to dismiss the lawsuit in November, claiming that the lawsuit

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<v Speaker 2>is specifically the alleged concealment of royalties was quote fiction.

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<v Speaker 2>They pulled fiction out on.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're like, you're a fictional character.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what I remember second grade when you learn it

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<v Speaker 2>fiction and nonfiction were you're the other. So, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the latest news on Fred Durst? I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>just the latest news, right, I got way more so

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<v Speaker 2>I think we should go back to the beginning of this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll try to get you on the side of Fred

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<v Speaker 2>Durst now, pointing out that's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, well, it's gonna take a whole lot more than that, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Bet, and that's gonna be Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 4>You may surprise me?

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows? I asked you to consider a simple question.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Fred Durst? Hmmm, you don't have an answer yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm about to give you some inklings of one.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen seventy in Jacksonville, Florida, he was born Frederick

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<v Speaker 2>Allen Maine the third.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, well when he was still My brain is

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<v Speaker 4>processing a couple things here, fred.

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<v Speaker 2>Main, So Fred Main Third. He was still in Florida,

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<v Speaker 2>his parents divorced, and then his mother relocated North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>She meets this new guy. They soon get married. His

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<v Speaker 2>mother renames her baby in honor of his new stepfather,

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<v Speaker 2>a police officer named Bill Durst.

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<v Speaker 4>His stepdad was a car Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the toddler was known as William Frederick Durst drop

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<v Speaker 2>the third. He's like that's out.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, well yeah, he's not Maine anymore. They don't

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<v Speaker 4>remember the Main.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not at all. No glory, no wars will be

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<v Speaker 2>fought for this poet. So his homiestart calling Fred instead

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<v Speaker 2>of William or Bill. As a kid, Fred Durst was

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of an audiball. He said off and that

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<v Speaker 2>he was bullied, and then he was a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a nerd. He one of his heroes was Booger from

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<v Speaker 2>Revenge of the Nerds. He escaped the taunts of Schoolyard

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<v Speaker 2>by throwing himself into music. Common story. He got into

0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.600
<v Speaker 2>hip hop and break dancing, and he would wrap and

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<v Speaker 2>beat box. He also did some DJing, but at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time he was also deep into punk rock and

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<v Speaker 2>heavy metal and death metal in particular, like Dicide. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I would have been one of the bullies. So

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<v Speaker 2>after Fred graduates high school, he joins the navy. He

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<v Speaker 2>goes out, gets out of Jacksonville, he sees the Warbeth

0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.559
<v Speaker 2>bans his horizons. After his stint as a seaman and

0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.720
<v Speaker 2>a sailor, he came home and lived with his father

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<v Speaker 2>back in Jacksonville, Florida, mister Maine. The second while he

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<v Speaker 2>was exactly while, he worked as a tattoo artist and

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<v Speaker 2>the landscaper because you know, the art didn't pay enough.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he was tattoo artist, you know, not mocking.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not anyway either.

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<v Speaker 4>Professions it's the combo job right there.

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<v Speaker 2>So he starts doing his part. You to beautify the

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<v Speaker 2>world and give people skin art, and he also begins

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<v Speaker 2>to kick around the idea another way to beautify the world,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least make noise. Start the band he's dreamed

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<v Speaker 2>about from back when he was in the navy.

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<v Speaker 4>If you win the treadmill or will you give it

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<v Speaker 4>to him, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Share it with him. So Fred decides he wants to

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<v Speaker 2>combine his two great loves metal and rap. How can

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<v Speaker 2>he do this? But at this point it's nineteen ninety four.

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<v Speaker 2>Other people have already done it, so he's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I have ideas. Oh I can party do it in

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<v Speaker 2>a new way. So Fred approaches an old high school friend,

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<v Speaker 2>a drummer, and he goes, hey, you want to start

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<v Speaker 2>a band? And his friend's like, oh, man, I would

0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.520
<v Speaker 2>love to. I'm underemployed. This sounds like a great idea.

0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.880
<v Speaker 2>So he brings in a bassis he knows, and they'll

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<v Speaker 2>start writing songs together, but they're missing something Elizabeth. Soon enough,

0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.040
<v Speaker 2>he sees this guitarist performing and he's like, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>guy we need. Sure, the band approaches Wes Borland and

0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:55.280
<v Speaker 2>it convinces him join our team. They renamed their new

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<v Speaker 2>band now Limp Biscuit, which was Fred's idea cause, oh really,

0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.600
<v Speaker 2>name that was repellent to the fans or possible fans,

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<v Speaker 2>Limp Biscuits. So Limp Biscuit starts to play gigs around Florida.

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<v Speaker 4>That's one of those things like you gotta imagine, like

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<v Speaker 4>I've had friends with unfortunate band names, and then when

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<v Speaker 4>someone says, right, when someone says, oh, you're in a band,

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<v Speaker 4>what's it called gulp Limp Biscuit?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, are you any other bands? First band? Huh yeah, exactly.

0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:28.600
<v Speaker 2>So Limp Biscut is point. They get some attention in

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<v Speaker 2>the underground scene. They're really getting a name known for

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<v Speaker 2>playing covers. They play Paula Abdul songs straight up and

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<v Speaker 2>choose song with with Scat Cat.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, but no, wait, does Scott Cat in the straight up?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I think so is he? I think he's a

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's in the other one.

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<v Speaker 4>One step forward, two steps back, we go together, because opposite's.

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<v Speaker 2>A trap there, it is?

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<v Speaker 4>It is so I'm telling you, it's like sometimes you

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<v Speaker 4>drop the piggy bank and the coins come.

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<v Speaker 2>Out breaks open. So at this point they're also doing

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<v Speaker 2>George Michael's song Faith the later. Yeah, that becomes like

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<v Speaker 2>a staple of the screaming. Yes exactly, they scream where

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<v Speaker 2>George Michael would sing.

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<v Speaker 4>That's offensive into the spirit of Jorge Michelle.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the one comes two bands that we actually like,

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<v Speaker 2>Sick of It All and Corn. Okay only I like Corn.

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<v Speaker 4>You like Corn?

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<v Speaker 2>I like Sick of it All? Yeah, I like them both.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so Sick of it All is opening for

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<v Speaker 2>Corn while they're playing shows, and this is nineteen ninety four. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, Corn is not a big time band.

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<v Speaker 2>They're still playing shows at small clubs. Like I actually

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<v Speaker 2>think I saw them on this tour because I saw

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<v Speaker 2>a Sick of All was opening for Yeah. Yeah, not

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<v Speaker 2>the other way around. You would think the other way

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<v Speaker 2>around you would. Yeah, at a show that I saw

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<v Speaker 2>him at the Cattle Club Sacramento, it.

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<v Speaker 4>Did seeing Sick of it All make you want to

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<v Speaker 4>punch people?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god? Yeah, so good, totally. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>great show. But Fred Durst does something that I never

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<v Speaker 2>thought to do. Back in Sacramento. He invites Corn to

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<v Speaker 2>come back to his house. He's like, you guys should

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<v Speaker 2>come back to my house and we could jam out.

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<v Speaker 2>So apparently they they go with him back to his

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<v Speaker 2>house and while he's there, he plays some Limp Biscuit

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<v Speaker 2>demo songs. His gambit totally works Fieldy the hip hop

0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.400
<v Speaker 2>loving basis for Corn, he's impressed. He's legit like went

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<v Speaker 2>to a random kid's house Jacksonville, Florida and was like,

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<v Speaker 2>that was jam out. I'm telling you this is what

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<v Speaker 2>before they were big, but they were playing small clubs.

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<v Speaker 2>You can all sleep in your place, We'll be there.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any natty?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I guess yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Co Corn now and vice Limp Biscuit, who was not

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<v Speaker 2>signed on any label, not even a small label, to

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<v Speaker 2>come out and open for them on tour. The band

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<v Speaker 2>does well and the first tour goes well, so Corn

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<v Speaker 2>invites Limp Biscuit to join them on a second tour.

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<v Speaker 2>So really, at this point, I think we can say

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<v Speaker 2>that Corn is to blame for Limp Biscuit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I definitely lay it at their feet.

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<v Speaker 2>So Limp Biscuit, though, they also get their final missing

0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.920
<v Speaker 2>piece around the same time. They bring in DJ Lethal

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<v Speaker 2>as their turntablist, so at this time he was the

0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.840
<v Speaker 2>former DJ turntablist for a rap group House of Pain,

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<v Speaker 2>who had broken up.

0:16:55.120 --> 0:17:00.280
<v Speaker 4>Wait I did not know this, Yeah yeah, so wow.

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<v Speaker 2>But ever Last went off to the do like his

0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Whitey Forda. So at this point they're doing really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety six, things are going well for olymp Biscuit. The

0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.760
<v Speaker 2>band's about to become a signed act. But there's trouble

0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:16.320
<v Speaker 2>for the baby band because Fred Durst gets into it

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<v Speaker 2>with the genius guitarist Wes Borland and he quits the band.

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<v Speaker 2>So now it looks like the band will become West

0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.560
<v Speaker 2>quits or the guitarist Wes Borland quits. It's like the

0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:29.040
<v Speaker 2>known genius of the group, like, oh yeah, he's really talented,

0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:31.720
<v Speaker 2>so he's out right he's gonna be a victim of

0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Fred's ego. Somehow, Fred's sweet talks Wes Borland into rejoining

0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.080
<v Speaker 2>the band. He does. He rejoins just in time for

0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:39.639
<v Speaker 2>them to be signed to a label. He may come

0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:41.760
<v Speaker 2>to him like we're to be signed to get back

0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.360
<v Speaker 2>in the band. He does. They joined Flip Records, which

0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:48.000
<v Speaker 2>is a subsidiary of Innerscope, which was Jimmy Iovine's label.

0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:51.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, they were owned by Universal Music Group, which

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<v Speaker 2>is why they're now suing them for two hundred million dollars.

0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Got It At this point goes primarily known as a

0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.719
<v Speaker 2>label for rap. They're like, they have Doctor Dre, they

0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:01.000
<v Speaker 2>have showed Knight's label death Row Records, So then when

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<v Speaker 2>they add Limp Biscuit, it's like why right? The reason

0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.040
<v Speaker 2>is is Jimmy Iovine is some other music industry think

0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.520
<v Speaker 2>that gangster rap is kind of getting passe and getting

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<v Speaker 2>passed by by this new sound known as what Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 2>new metal.

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<v Speaker 4>New metal. Yeah, it's not retal exactly metal.

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<v Speaker 2>So now we both know I like new metal. I will.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a car Deftones Rage against the Machine, I still

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<v Speaker 2>listen to the sound.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even feel like Rage against the Machine transcends

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<v Speaker 4>that I don't put them in the new metal.

0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Because of the actual political content of their songs.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's almost like they feel like more shouty punk

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<v Speaker 4>to me than rap.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could see that they're not like that. His

0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.520
<v Speaker 2>lyrics are pretty good when its amazing I think as

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<v Speaker 2>a rapper, just in particular. Yeah, Also, do you know

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<v Speaker 2>the soundtrack to Judgment Night has all the like rock

0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:57.320
<v Speaker 2>grips going paired with a rapper. Yeah, anyway, since the

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<v Speaker 2>mid to late nineties when New metals blowing up. So

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, I know you're more punk rock than

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<v Speaker 2>I am, So I'm just gonna give you some brief

0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:06.720
<v Speaker 2>overview that you don't really care. So back to fred Durst.

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<v Speaker 2>In ninety seven, they released their first album, three Dollars Bill,

0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:11.760
<v Speaker 2>y'all not a big hit. The audience is like, what

0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:14.840
<v Speaker 2>else you got? So band regroups that get back in

0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:17.480
<v Speaker 2>the studio. In nineteen ninety nine, they released a second album,

0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Significant Other. This is the album that has break Stuff

0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.680
<v Speaker 2>and their track Nookie. It's the one that blows out

0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.639
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden. They become staples on MTV's Total

0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Request Live the TRL. This is the start of their

0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:33.520
<v Speaker 2>rising fame right so, and also it's pretty meteoric because

0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:36.240
<v Speaker 2>that album was nominated for Best Rock Album at the

0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Grammy Awards that year. Nookie gets nominated for the Best

0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Hard Rock Performance with the Grammys.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure the Biscuit, who else was nominated.

0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:46.879
<v Speaker 2>They lost in both categories. They lost to in Best

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<v Speaker 2>Hard Rock Performance to Metallica and they lost Best Rock

0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:52.879
<v Speaker 2>Album to Santana and his album Supernatural.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh No is that all smooth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah at this point ninety six, is that like Saint Anger,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry ninety nine, I'm sorry ninety nine. Yeah, yeah,

0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what album that is. Yeah, So anyway, nine,

0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.560
<v Speaker 2>it's a huge year for Biscuits, Garbage, Metallica at that point. Yeah,

0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:17.240
<v Speaker 2>short Hair Metallica, so exactly anyway, Yeah, so they get

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<v Speaker 2>invited to perform this hugely anticipated concert Woodstock ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 2>which is we've mentioned you were at written about your

0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:26.879
<v Speaker 2>time spent at the superfund waste site. Yes, known as

0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Griffiths Air Force Base. I have to assume that you

0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:31.959
<v Speaker 2>rushed over to check Limp Biscuit set. How was it?

0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:34.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, was that like, what's your third favorite moment?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I was doing during Limp Biscuits set?

0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:41.120
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't running for it? Why?

0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:45.479
<v Speaker 4>That was when all the riots started, Yes, and everyone

0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:48.440
<v Speaker 4>was setting things on fire. And at this point I'm

0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:52.959
<v Speaker 4>with Mother Jones magazine. So I'm surrounded by boxes and

0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:56.720
<v Speaker 4>boxes of magazines which are very flammable. Yes, and I've

0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:02.080
<v Speaker 4>got lots of like sun burned like sun poison drunks

0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:05.440
<v Speaker 4>running around. We can see things starting to like come

0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:10.280
<v Speaker 4>up into flames. And uh, everyone's tearing it stuff and

0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.879
<v Speaker 4>it was like that's when I said to all my people, like,

0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:15.960
<v Speaker 4>load up your bags, we're out of here. And we

0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:19.919
<v Speaker 4>ran from where we were to the media tent to

0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:21.960
<v Speaker 4>the parking lot and then by that time the Chili

0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.000
<v Speaker 4>Peppers were on and we were out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that that is pretty much. Do you remember that?

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<v Speaker 2>You probably didn't because you weren't at the limp biscuit part.

0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:34.440
<v Speaker 2>But AKA Mini Me for the Austin Powers movies, he's

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<v Speaker 2>the one that came out and introduced the limp biscuit.

0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:37.440
<v Speaker 4>Oh sure that makes sense.

0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, And the backstage you would have found, like

0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Davis, a Corn, Jennifer Aniston, kid Rock Diddy, was

0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:45.640
<v Speaker 2>that they're chilling. They're all bumping their heads to limp

0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:49.840
<v Speaker 2>business together. Well, hair, let's pause for a second through

0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:53.440
<v Speaker 2>the madness of Woodstock because I'm having put a pin

0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:55.520
<v Speaker 2>in this and come back because there's way more to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about Woodstock ninety nine. Okay, back in two and two,

0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth Zaron, We're so back. I got way more limp

0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:27.360
<v Speaker 2>biscuit for you. So picking up with Woodstock ninety nine,

0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:30.720
<v Speaker 2>which is a really important moment in the culture, and

0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:34.679
<v Speaker 2>specifically for Limp Biscuit and their whole personal mythos and

0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:37.160
<v Speaker 2>for me and for you as well, and for Elizabeth

0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:39.840
<v Speaker 2>and for Elizabeth. Now when the crowd, it was like

0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:43.800
<v Speaker 2>first respondinglymp Biscuit as like a you know, they begin

0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:46.119
<v Speaker 2>to mosh because that's the thing to do, right, And

0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:49.520
<v Speaker 2>so fred Durst tells the crowd. They want to ask

0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:51.560
<v Speaker 2>us to ask you to mellow out a little bit.

0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:54.439
<v Speaker 2>They say, too many people are getting hurt. Don't let

0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:57.480
<v Speaker 2>anybody get hurt. But I don't think you should mellow out.

0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:01.640
<v Speaker 2>Mellowing out that's what a lot is Morris had you

0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 2>do if someone falls, pick them up. This is his

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:08.760
<v Speaker 2>as you said, things are going crazy, this is his

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<v Speaker 2>advice right before the flames breakout. Is like, hey man,

0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 2>you guys don't need to mellow out. Actually I can't.

0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 4>I can't over like I cannot express enough the atmosphere

0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:28.800
<v Speaker 4>of this place of testosterone and like teen and twenty

0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:34.200
<v Speaker 4>something men slash boys, men man boys who were so

0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:38.840
<v Speaker 4>inebriated and so angry. Yes, and to be a woman

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:43.399
<v Speaker 4>in that environment was terrifying, really absolutely terrifle.

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:45.159
<v Speaker 2>I can imagine, I mean shocked.

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 4>It was like you know, I just think about how

0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:52.879
<v Speaker 4>it had reached a fever pitch by that point. But

0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:56.159
<v Speaker 4>then these kind of roving bands of guys, and you know,

0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 4>I was like in my little protected area with my people,

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:03.880
<v Speaker 4>and but you know there were girls there, women there

0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 4>who really just wanted to have a good time, and

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:09.360
<v Speaker 4>we're getting I would see them getting groped and treated

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:14.199
<v Speaker 4>like subhuman and attacked, and then you think, like, so

0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:17.159
<v Speaker 4>this line of his what's alonis more set wanted, And

0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:19.280
<v Speaker 4>it was just like the whole time, You're sitting there

0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 4>and you're thinking, I know that you have to have

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:24.199
<v Speaker 4>contemporary music for Woodstock ninety nine, but this is so

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:25.919
<v Speaker 4>far from the spirit of Woodstock.

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:27.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it was.

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:31.640
<v Speaker 4>It was. And I've gone to crazy punk shows, I've

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 4>gone to crazy metal shows, and I have never felt

0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 4>that uncomfortable.

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:42.280
<v Speaker 2>And it was it. I blame Fred Durst. The moment

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 2>where everything like the Damn breaks is literally the song

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:48.879
<v Speaker 2>breaks stuff. He he channels the basically as you describe it,

0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 2>the simmering rage of all the concert gars and at

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the breakdown of the song, Fred tells the crowd time

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:57.200
<v Speaker 2>to reach down deep inside and take all that negative energy,

0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:01.320
<v Speaker 2>all that negative energy let that out of your system.

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:05.160
<v Speaker 2>You got girl problems, you got boy problems, you got

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 2>pair problems, you got boss problems, you got job problems,

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:11.399
<v Speaker 2>you got a problem with me, you got a problem

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:13.920
<v Speaker 2>with yourself. It's time to take out all that negative

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:18.080
<v Speaker 2>energy and put it the out. Yeah, that's like the

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 2>biggest recipe, Like if you want to charge some of

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:22.159
<v Speaker 2>them with inciting a.

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:24.919
<v Speaker 4>Ride, right, but more so than you know, if you

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 4>went to like any kind of you go to. Let's

0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 4>say you go to the warp Tour and you yell

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:32.160
<v Speaker 4>that you know it's the people at Woodsuck. The difference

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:35.679
<v Speaker 4>in reaction is that they had been there for three days.

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 4>You couldn't bring your own food and drink in, and

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:43.640
<v Speaker 4>the prices were exorbitant, like even on today's standards, you'd

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:45.880
<v Speaker 4>see it was like five dollars for a bottle of water.

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 4>And then at this point, like halfway through the last day,

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 4>the ATMs all ran out of money. And so you know,

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:56.199
<v Speaker 4>you'd have everyone's getting and that we smuggled all of

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 4>our stuff in because I just refuse, you know, like

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 4>one way or I'll figure it out. But I'd see

0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 4>people who are desperate, they were hungry, they were thirsty.

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 4>They're like, well, I'll just pull out more money. Money

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 4>they probably could ill afford at this point because the

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 4>tickets were so expensive and it's.

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 2>On a really huge slab of cement.

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:17.439
<v Speaker 4>So oppressively hot, so hot, and so muggy, and they

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 4>weren't picking up garbage. Yeah, the porta potties are overflowing.

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:25.440
<v Speaker 4>There's piles of trash everywhere. People are hungry and like

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 4>there now there there's no money in the ATMs, and

0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:31.639
<v Speaker 4>they didn't take cards back then, and so it was

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 4>just like everyone's mad, just so mad. And so either

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:38.640
<v Speaker 4>they were just leaving and saying this isn't worth it,

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 4>or they're listening to this ding dong up on stage

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:43.879
<v Speaker 4>who's like, do you hate everything?

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 2>How mad are you mad? Now, all fifty thousand of

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 2>you here, you can hear my voice. The crowd starts

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:54.880
<v Speaker 2>to tear the place apart, literally, like now they're not washing.

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 2>The fistfights break out, crowd members tear the perimeter fence apart.

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 2>Some folks tried the crowd surfwood. I'm sure you probably

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 2>we could see it.

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 4>And we could see too, like there were the towers

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 4>for the lighting rigs.

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 2>And stuck in a lighting sway.

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 4>Yes, And that was kind of when we were like,

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 4>we got to get out of here, but I.

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Had to be evacuated. Those towers, they had to be evacuated. Yeah,

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 2>so the camera people's sound people, they all fled the scene.

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 4>When we were making a run for it, we ran

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 4>by these two kids who were probably eight ten years

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 4>old or something, and they had like a baby doll

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.880
<v Speaker 4>they'd rip the head off of and they were they

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:30.160
<v Speaker 4>just look like they're out of their minds on something kids.

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, this is this is so bad.

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:35.360
<v Speaker 4>We've got to get out of here immediately, like.

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, after break stuff, that song's over. The concert promoters

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 2>tried to regain control because they actually made the band

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 2>pause while medical staff could clear out the wounded like

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 2>it was a gladiator pit. Nuts right. Fred Durst does

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 2>his part to kind of calm the anger he's unleashed

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 2>because he sees it right, and the band starts to

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:54.160
<v Speaker 2>play their other big hit and Nookie, and Fred tells

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 2>the crowd, we already let out all the negative energy.

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 2>It's time to reach down and bring that positive energy.

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 2>This it's time to let yourself go right now. Because

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:09.400
<v Speaker 2>there are no rules out there. He really just bad at.

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:12.159
<v Speaker 4>The peace and the love or just shining out of

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 4>that one.

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 2>So at this point he climbs aboard one of the

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:18.159
<v Speaker 2>plywood panels and tries to CrowdSurf this writhing crowd, and

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 2>the security is like trying to stop him, like Fred,

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, I gotta be me, man, and he

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 2>just goes out there and crowdsurfing. Right when the band

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 2>finishes their set, police officers approach Fred and they're accompanied

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 2>by the band's manager. They all tell Fred about all

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 2>the damage he's caused. He's nonplus right. In an interview

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 2>after the fact, Fred Durst exculpated himself by saying, I

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't see anybody getting hurt. You don't see that when

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 2>you're looking out on a sea of people in the

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 2>stage is twenty feet in there, and you're performing and

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 2>you're feeling your music. How did you expect us to

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 2>see something bad going on the same scene that you've described.

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 2>He claims that he could not do that.

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 4>Well see it, Well, it's just ignorant nihilism.

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a lie. I think it's a lie.

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:59.719
<v Speaker 2>So now, months after the concert, Trent Reznor, front man

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 2>for zine Inch Nails. He leveled some criticism at fred

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Durst because a lot of people were like a lot

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 2>of people were blaming him, and so even people who

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 2>were at Woodstock ninety nine they're like, no, it was

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 2>like Jonathan Davis of Corn he blamed fred Durst. Yeah,

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Trent Reznor told Rolling Stone his unvarnished opinion of fred Durst.

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 2>He said, fred Durst can serf a piece of plywood

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 2>up mile. Now. Years later, one of Woodstock ninety nine promoters,

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 2>John Sheer, Yeah, you had this to say fred Durst, who,

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 2>if I haven't said in enough times, is a complete

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 2>a moron. He was completely out of his mind.

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 2>So this performance and this all around debacle, this becomes

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 2>like the nadea of Limp Biscuits, like not standing in

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 2>the culture, but like an example of like, this is

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 2>what this band is about. If they spend the rest

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 2>of their careers trying to basically prove that they are

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 2>not this share media is violent.

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 4>They were trying to prove that they were like rebels

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 4>and bad boys, and they didn't have anything lyrically, no,

0:29:58.000 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 4>that was backing that up.

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 2>No or musically.

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 4>They weren't innovators in that it sounded like basically everything

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 4>else that was doing that, and then so here like, oh,

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 4>this is how I'm going to prove that I'm a

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 4>bad boy, but I don't have the stones to stand

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 4>up for it, you know what I mean. And if

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 4>you're a real like rebel or bad boy, or if

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 4>you were a real contrarian, you'd stop it, stop what

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 4>was happening and like call it out.

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 2>As if you were, as he says, a formerly bullied kid,

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 2>you might be a little more sensitive to I mean.

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 4>You think about when the you know, musicians that I've

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 4>I've read interviews are ones that I've even known when

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 4>they talk about like a crowd going south and the

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 4>choices you have, and like, you know, uh, one of

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 4>the ones that I love is the drop Kick Murphy's

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:48.239
<v Speaker 4>that when they really started standing up politically in this

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 4>latest you know, Hellscape, they had some fans who were

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 4>opposed to what they were saying. You know, we're right

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 4>leading fans, and rather than ignoring it or stopping it,

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 4>they just confronted it and we're like, we're not going

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 4>to stand for that. We're not going to stand for

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 4>any kind of like fascist symbolism.

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 2>Or that kind of stuff.

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 4>You know, you gotta you gotta be brave, and Durst

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 4>is not brave, No.

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Not particularly. He's also kind of doing it, you know,

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 2>essentially for the reaction. It's a very adolescent response. Yes,

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 2>so at this point the music community starts to respond

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 2>to him like you have Like he gets into a

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 2>feud with the band of slip slip Knot. I'm not

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 2>sure if you remember Slipknot. They were the new metal

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 2>band that looked like they'd let a classroom of first

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 2>graders make masks of a bunch of stuff. They brought

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 2>it home from home. Yeah, like, oh those pipe cleaners.

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 4>So the story I can't get with that, but I

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 4>at least have more respect for that kind of experimentation.

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, yeah, there's some artistic quality there. Yeah, now

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 2>the story goes. Fred Durst said that Slip Knots fans

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 2>were quote a bunch of fat, ugly kids, which reasonably

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 2>pissed off the front man of Slipknot, This cat named

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Corey Taylor. So the formerly Bullet Good now acting as

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 2>the boy. So Corey Taylor offers a teach bread Durst

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 2>some lessons in civility. In ninety nine, the front man

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 2>of slip Knot went on stage and said, Fred you

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 2>may have a lot of money and being all over

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 2>the world, but when you talk about Slipknot and our fans,

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 2>we will kill you. Who chase there's any mistake about

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 2>his intent. When he was later asked about the band's

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 2>feud with Fred Durst, the frontman of Slipknot, he looked

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 2>at a camera on a different show and as if

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 2>like Free were talking to fred Durst, he screamed, we

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 2>will come there and we will kill you. Oh God.

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, he was like Florida on Florida Violence right.

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 2>As much fun as it may be to picture it,

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 2>the mass musicians of Slipknot never did beat up fred Durst,

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 2>which brings us to our next fred Durst strangeness. Elizabeth,

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 2>see if you can do this. I wanted to try

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 2>to imagine Fred Durst and Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 2>at the House of Blues in La hanging out together,

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 2>getting high in a back room.

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:46.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I wanted to do Okay, I

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 4>can do this.

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 2>This place called the the Foundation Room. I've actually been

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 2>in the Foundation Room. It's this upstairs private club inside

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 2>of the House of Blues, and I didn't get there

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 2>because I was specially I got there because my friend

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 2>was a waiter there. My friend's style was a weight

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 2>at the House of Blues and around this same time,

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 2>actually he'd bring me in and the security would let

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 2>me be in these types of secret spaces and because

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I'd hooked them up with weed or whatever, and it

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 2>was like I was go, was dope. I gotta se

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Johnny Cash perform at the House of Baaloesa and yeah,

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 2>and it was like one of his last public shows. Also,

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 2>my boy style once he stole Rosa Park's fork when

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 2>she came in and ate at their weekly Sunday.

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 4>Brun out of her hand.

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 2>No, no, like when she was done, he like poinked

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 2>it and he kept it as a souvenir like I've

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 2>got Rosa Parks for I lived with that at the time.

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 2>We were so proud we put it on like our

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 2>band toll exactly. So anyway, this story is best told

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 2>by Fred Durst as he told it on his own

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 2>short lived podcast, and I quote, I went to the

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 2>premiere of rock Star. I'm friends with Mark Wahlberg and

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 2>he had this movie coming out, so I'd go to

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 2>the premiere. And at the premiere before the movie, I

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 2>met Jennifer Aniston and somehow ended up telling her I

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 2>was a fan of her husband, Brad Pitt. I think

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 2>it was her husband boyfriend something like that. But she says,

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 2>no way, he's a fan of you and your band.

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 2>You got to meet him, and I said that would

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 2>be awesome. So she says, after the movie, mean set

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 2>the House of Blues at the Foundation Room. We're having

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 2>a private little party. I was like, dope, So there's

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 2>the setup, right, didn't happen? My husband and I saw

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 2>you from across the bar.

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 4>Always a huge fan of yours. Here meet us at

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 4>this fun party.

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:19.720
<v Speaker 2>So Fred Durst. He goes back to Fred and I quote.

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 2>So after the movie, I drove over to the House

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 2>of Blues on sunset and I was kind of late,

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 2>and I went up to the Foundation Room and it

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 2>was empty. Just the bartender was there, and I sat

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 2>there for a little while. I had a couple of

0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:32.880
<v Speaker 2>drinks and I was like, damn, man, they really pulled

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 2>one on me there. So he thinks he's been stood

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:39.239
<v Speaker 2>up by Chen and Brad. Brad and Jen. As much

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:41.280
<v Speaker 2>fun as it is to think that they actually punked

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 2>Fred Durst. It turns out he wasn't getting punked. He

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 2>just didn't know that there was a secret room inside

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:48.840
<v Speaker 2>the private club. Because the House of Blues is supposed

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 2>to be like the speakeasy, like an so it's got

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 2>all these like secret rooms in private clubs. So back

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 2>to Fred Durst and I quote then the secret door

0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 2>open and a bouncer or a bodyguard or somebody said

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 2>are you Fred? And I was like yeah, and he's like,

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 2>they're waiting for you in here. So I went in

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 2>this private, little hidden room, and of course it was

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 2>the after party, very small, really intimate. There was Jennifer

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Aniston and Brad Pitt and some other people, and I

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:16.479
<v Speaker 2>said hello. We were like hanging and laughing and having

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 2>a really cool time. He couldn't have been cooler and

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 2>she couldn't have been cooler. It was very very special

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 2>for me. So at this point though, it goes more

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 2>full on Fred Durst and he finds a way to

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:30.359
<v Speaker 2>ruin the moment. Yes, back to Fred And next thing

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, somebody's passing around to joint and I don't

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 2>smoke weed, but I'm a little buzz and I'm like,

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 2>all right, I'll just go at the flow here and

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:38.799
<v Speaker 2>take a little puff. And I guess I took more

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 2>than a little puff. I guess because I was out

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 2>of my mind all of a sudden, like whoa. And

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 2>all I remember was that after that feel like making

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Love from Bad Company was playing super loud, and me

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 2>having Brad and Jennifer and like a headlock. Jennifer's on

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 2>my left, Brad's on my right. My arms are around

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 2>their heads and jumping up and down, screaming the song

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 2>at the top of my lungs. Sure if they were

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:03.360
<v Speaker 2>singing with me or enjoying it, but I do remember

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:06.959
<v Speaker 2>that I was like, whoa. I was so embarrassed. It's

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 2>this story is wasn't cursed enough. Later on, Fred went

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 2>to the set of Mister and Missus Smith What the

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:16.280
<v Speaker 2>movie where that Brad made with Angelina Joel had destroyed

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 2>his marriage with Jennifer Aniston, and Fred apologizes to Brad

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 2>for being a douchebag. With Brad and Jen back of

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 2>the House of Booze. So apparently, unlike me, who would

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 2>have told him he's the reason why I got divorced

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:31.439
<v Speaker 2>from Jen. Apparently Brad was chill about it. Fred says

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 2>that that he this is what he said to Brad quote.

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 2>I said, hey, I just really want to apologize for

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:39.360
<v Speaker 2>this moment back in the day at the House of Blues,

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 2>and he was like, no way, bro, that was awesome.

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 2>You were killer. We had so much fun. And I

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 2>was like, no, I'm really sorry. I wasn't myself. I'm

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:50.399
<v Speaker 2>sorry I acted that way. So he has Brad Pitt

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:52.799
<v Speaker 2>tell him multiple times how cool he is. He threw

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 2>other people, never himself.

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 4>Happened. He wound up going to this after party. He

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 4>sees them, he puts him in the headlock while screaming.

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 4>Then he somehow I don't even know if he actually

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:08.439
<v Speaker 4>went to the set of the movie, like, no one's

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 4>gonna ask Brad Pitt, can you verify it?

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Can you verify this? Durst?

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I went there and he was all, no, bro,

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 4>you're like my favorite. I loved it. Like, let's say

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 4>he did wind up on the film set. Annie went

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.719
<v Speaker 4>up and apologized. I would put money on Brad Pitt

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 4>having absolutely no idea what he's talking about or who

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 4>he is, and being like, you know, it's cool, man,

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:28.879
<v Speaker 4>you were great.

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Totally, totally cool bro.

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 4>I gotta get going, but you know, oh liar.

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 2>So this brings us to Fred durst feud with Scott Stapp,

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:42.320
<v Speaker 2>the lead singer of Creed.

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh man, the hits just keep coming.

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Totally right, like I hammered to the head. June of

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 2>two thousand, during the era of huge summer concerts. I

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 2>guess Limpbiscuit was invited to join like Ozzie and the

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Deaf Tones and Godsmack at something called Dysfunctional Family Picnic,

0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 2>New York, right, and another band on the bill was Creed,

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:03.800
<v Speaker 2>which just makes for a very weird show. Absolutely Anyway,

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:06.359
<v Speaker 2>when limp Biscuits on stage after showing up an hour late,

0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Fred Durst leans into the mic and tells the crowd,

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I want to dedicate this next song to the lead

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 2>singer of Creed, and the song was their hit break Stuff,

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 2>which everybody knew had the good connotations to Woodstock. Mattis right.

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 2>So before the band starts into the song, Fred goes

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 2>on to say that guy's an ego maniac, he's a

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:28.920
<v Speaker 2>punk and he's backstage right now, acted like Michael Jackson.

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 2>So when Creed he says this on on stage before

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 2>he plays the song. Dedicated to the guy he's running

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 2>down Classic, which obviously he did not mean. But when

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Creed Lynn later takes the stage Scott's stab, he doesn't

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 2>run down Fred Durst, which would have been, you know,

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 2>really easy to do. Instead, he just says it takes

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 2>a lot more guts to say something to somebody than

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:52.239
<v Speaker 2>behind their backs. So he man's up on him. So

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 2>this isn't the end of it because Fred isn't done.

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 2>Later on Fred's on MTV's TRL aka Total Request Live

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 2>and he addresses his new feud with frontman of Creed.

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.839
<v Speaker 2>Fred says to MTV, for one thing, the guy's out

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 2>of his mind. The guy thinks he's better human than everybody.

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:10.239
<v Speaker 2>You walk by his dressing room and his people look

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 2>at you and go. You do not approach the band,

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 2>You do not talk to the band, You do not

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 2>look at the band. Now. I don't know if he

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 2>was jealous of their popularity without having to be Dix

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 2>to everyone all the time, or it just remind him

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 2>of people who bullied him back in high school, or

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 2>like being excluded. I don't know.

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 4>I feel like, you know, I think if Jimmy Creed

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 4>was his.

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Name, he was the singer Scott's Day.

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 4>If I'm him and I go out on stage after

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 4>having fred Durst run his little mouth, you don't say anything.

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:41.279
<v Speaker 4>And then if someone says, oh, why didn't you respond like, oh,

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, I wasn't listening when they were out on stage.

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:45.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't listen to I'm sorry.

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't know anything about that, but it gets what

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 4>I to your question. I do wonder was fred Durst

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:54.719
<v Speaker 4>always the bully not the bullied? No, I think it's

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 4>this is like perpetual bully behavior, though I don't think.

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 2>He understands the limits of it. A bully like how

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 2>to be a tolerated.

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 4>Why pick on the dufices.

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:08.719
<v Speaker 2>And creed it's you kind of called him. The late

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 2>nineties had a lot of agro. This is like, you know,

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 2>an era of like hyper masculinity, but done is like

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm a dick. You see that I got in your face? Right?

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:20.319
<v Speaker 2>So it's really like it's the most toxic of he

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 2>expressed it the most fully, and he was getting a

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 2>lot of money and prestige for it. So he's just

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna go bigger and bigger until the balloon pops.

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:28.439
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's what happened with people I know who

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:31.280
<v Speaker 4>had run ins with him. Is he wanted to start

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 4>fights and there's who are you? I don't even know?

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, well the balloon keeps inflating. He's trying to

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 2>start fights. You know. Creed invited him to fight, like

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:46.239
<v Speaker 2>actually like a boxing match for charity, and then Fred

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:47.279
<v Speaker 2>he did not show up.

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 4>He was like, yeah, wait, so he starts all that

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 4>and doesn't show up.

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:53.880
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I'm on tourcals, I can't do that now.

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:55.840
<v Speaker 2>A few summers later, Fred Durst is back in the

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 2>news after he makes this spectacle at another summer concert,

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 2>the Summer Sanitarium to headlined by Metallica. Knowing that Olympisco

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 2>would be one of the acts of the summer concert.

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 2>This local radio DJA he urged all his listeners in

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 2>the Chicago Land area to let Fred Durst just hear it,

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:13.880
<v Speaker 2>mock him to his face, hackle him, throw stuff at

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 2>him ways on stage for days and days, possibly weeks.

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:19.879
<v Speaker 2>He's telling his listeners just do not give this guy

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:21.800
<v Speaker 2>a nice welcome to Chicago.

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:24.280
<v Speaker 4>They're giving him exactly what he wants. What he wants

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:25.960
<v Speaker 4>the attention. That's what all of this is.

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this two thousand and three, that the era is

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 2>starting to change. Right Limp Biscuit. They take the stage

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 2>in Chicago, the crowd starts chanting Fred Durst, Fred Durst,

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 2>over and over again. Right that does the trick. Is

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes into the set, fred Durst throws down his

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:44.239
<v Speaker 2>mic and he flees the stage in anger. He just

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 2>ran yeah. According to MTV dot COM's account, he continued

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 2>his profanity lace tirade from off stage with shouts about

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:53.360
<v Speaker 2>how the band would be back and boasts that we

0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:56.720
<v Speaker 2>are the greatest band in the world. The abbreviated performance

0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:59.960
<v Speaker 2>caused a ninety minute delay between lymp Biscuit and headliners Metallic.

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:02.759
<v Speaker 2>So he pisses off everybody all the way around. Oh

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 2>my god. Now I found someone who was at the

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 2>show who allegedly at least they wrote a review on

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:09.399
<v Speaker 2>a fan site, and I quote, I always knew Fred

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 2>had an ego problem. At the concert in Chicago, he

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:13.840
<v Speaker 2>had totally lost it. When he came out, the fans

0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 2>were booing him and whipping like the three dollars water

0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 2>bottles and six dollars lemonade bottles at him. He got

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 2>really pissed off, called them, then started calling everyone from Chicago.

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 2>He was telling everyone they could. So this is like

0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 2>his approach to being like the star. There's mark because

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 2>the same fan ended their review with a choice quote

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:37.400
<v Speaker 2>one last thing. In between songs, he went and got

0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 2>a shotgun and was firing it into the air. I

0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 2>don't know if that they were real bullets. I was

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 2>wondering if he shot it at other concerts too. On

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 2>the other hand, Lincoln Park and Metallica rock. So there's

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 2>that now. There was also around the same time the

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Fred Durst in two thousand and five. Two years later,

0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:59.360
<v Speaker 2>was back in the news after a sex tape he

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 2>made was online. In my list of things I'd never

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:05.319
<v Speaker 2>ever ever want to see, I think fred Durst's sex

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 2>tape is definitely high on that list. But I guess

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:09.320
<v Speaker 2>the folks did want to see it, and so it

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 2>showed up on ten different websites. So what is fred

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Durst do? He sues them now. According to Billboard, the lawsuit,

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 2>filed in Los Angeles federal court last week, seeks more

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.960
<v Speaker 2>than seventy million dollars in damages and any profits the

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 2>site operators reaped in recent weeks when the three minute

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 2>clip of Durst and a former girlfriend began appearing on

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 2>the internet, So I don't know which part is funnier

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:32.800
<v Speaker 2>to me though the fact he sued for seventy million

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:35.239
<v Speaker 2>dollars for the fact that his sex tape was three

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 2>minutes long. Now, according to Billboard and the complaint, Durst

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 2>contends the two thousand and three video was never meant

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:44.800
<v Speaker 2>for public viewing. It was stored in Durst's home computer,

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 2>but hackers managed to break in remotely and make a copy.

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 2>According to the lawsuit, hackers, I was hacked. Do you

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 2>believe this? No, not at all.

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 4>Attention boy, he wanted attention.

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:57.800
<v Speaker 2>When news broke of the sex tape. Gocker rep Gocker.

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 2>They published a video from the sex tape that showed

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Fred Durst and a full on shot of his little

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Fred Durst, and the post was removed. But then hours

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 2>even they were like, this is too much, too far.

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:09.800
<v Speaker 2>We may be gawker, but this is crossing a line.

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:12.760
<v Speaker 2>So the damage is done though, so fred Durst lawyers

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:15.240
<v Speaker 2>they joined the ranks of folks who were suing Gawker.

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, yeah, I guess when Fred Durst here's about this,

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:21.280
<v Speaker 2>he reverses his lawyer's action and he according to Gawker. Quote.

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Durst sent Gawker flowers and a note that explained he

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 2>quote never wanted the suit to include you guys.

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:29.520
<v Speaker 4>He's like, I want more attention.

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I couldn't find the verdict on the lawsuit against

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:33.640
<v Speaker 2>the ten websites. Yeah, but I have to assume they

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:35.839
<v Speaker 2>settled out of court. All Gay, you know what time

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:37.719
<v Speaker 2>it is. It's time to take another little break after

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 2>these messages. I'll tell you one of my favorite stories

0:44:40.120 --> 0:45:04.759
<v Speaker 2>about Fred and his legal troubles. No Rebacca, Elizabeth.

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 4>Yes we are.

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Are you ready to hear my absolute favorite Fred Durst

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 2>and Limp Biscuit story? Sure? Good good. In the biography

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Eruption in the Canyon two hundred and twelve Days and

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Nights with the Genius of Eddie van Halen, the books

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 2>author Andrew Bennett, he recounts this gem of a story

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.720
<v Speaker 2>where Eddie Van Halen goes over to Limp Biscuit's rented

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:29.319
<v Speaker 2>mansion and like Beverly Hills to like jam out with

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Fred Durst after the guitarist Wes Borland had quit the

0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:35.799
<v Speaker 2>band once again. Okay, he does this often. He quit,

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.879
<v Speaker 2>comes back, comes back anyway, I guess Fred Durst wanted

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:42.040
<v Speaker 2>to give Andy van Halen an audition to replace stock

0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:45.759
<v Speaker 2>Wes Borland on guitar stop. Can you imagine being Eddie

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 2>van Halen and hearing Limp Biscuit wants to give you

0:45:48.160 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 2>a tryout to join the Why even.

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 4>Go over there? Was? He just like morbid curiosity?

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 2>He does it? I don't know. He goes to Beverly

0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Hill's house, he jams out with Fred Durst and trust

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:00.359
<v Speaker 2>Fred was well aware of the irony of all this.

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:02.879
<v Speaker 2>He told the author with this guy Bennett, that would

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 2>be absolutely hilarious if quote, the greatest guitar player ever

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:10.400
<v Speaker 2>plays with the worst band ever. He's not switches a bit.

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:11.759
<v Speaker 2>Remember before they were the greatest band.

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:12.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:15.840
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, the author Bennett added his take, saying that

0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 2>the jam session with Eddie Van Halen must have quote

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:23.320
<v Speaker 2>been like a scholar amongst kindergarteners. So can you imagine

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:25.919
<v Speaker 2>how that jam session must have played out in real life? No,

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:28.720
<v Speaker 2>because I got three words for you. Close your eyes,

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:36.480
<v Speaker 2>my eyes. I want you to picture it. It's midday

0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 2>and Beverly Hills and you are passed out on a

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 2>couch and the rented mansion of Limp biscuit. You spent

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 2>the last few days here because you are a limp

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:48.160
<v Speaker 2>biscuit groupie can generally make terrible decisions with your life. Anyway.

0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:51.080
<v Speaker 2>You're violently awoken when you hear the band start jamming.

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:53.839
<v Speaker 2>But there's this one sound that doesn't mesh with all

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 2>the other noise you hear coming from down the hallway.

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 2>It's a beautiful guitar fighting against the heavy, chunky, new

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:02.319
<v Speaker 2>metal sound. You know to be nim biscuit. You get

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:04.279
<v Speaker 2>up from the couch and pad down the hallway to

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 2>see what's making this beautiful sound against the racket you

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 2>know and love. The end of the hallway is a

0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 2>converted garage. It's been turned into a home studio. When

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 2>you open the door, you see the source of that

0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 2>beautiful noise. Is that, yes, it is. It's Eddie van

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Halen of the band Van Halen. He's playing his iconic

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:24.880
<v Speaker 2>red guitar with all the white and black ribbon mines

0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 2>all over it, and he seems to be enjoying himself.

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:30.719
<v Speaker 2>As Fred Durst freestyles on the mic, how crazy you

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:32.959
<v Speaker 2>think to yourself? You take a seat on a couch

0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:35.360
<v Speaker 2>in the home studio. Soon enough, the band stops playing

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:37.960
<v Speaker 2>to take a break. They join you on the couches.

0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 2>This whole moment is surreal. Fred Durst ask you for

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:43.400
<v Speaker 2>a lighter. You scrounge one from your jean's pocket and

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:46.160
<v Speaker 2>hand it over. He lights a join and starts to smoke.

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:49.719
<v Speaker 2>But there's soon a problem when Eddie van Halen comes over.

0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 2>He says he's in recovery. He doesn't like to be

0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 2>around drugs. The band thinks he's kidding. He is not

0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 2>soon enough. Eddie van Halen cusses up a storm, then

0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 2>storms out of the jam space, slamming the studio door

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:04.719
<v Speaker 2>behind him. You think that's kind of weird. The next day, Elizabeth,

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:07.240
<v Speaker 2>you're again asleep on a couch and the rented mansion

0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 2>of Lynbiscuit. You hear a phone ring and ring. No

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:12.640
<v Speaker 2>one is answering it, so you do. If the other

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 2>end is Eddie van Halen, and he is still pissed.

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:18.319
<v Speaker 2>He shouts about how he wants to come get his

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:21.319
<v Speaker 2>guitars and his amps from next studio space. You tell

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:23.560
<v Speaker 2>him your gift, Fred the message. You hang up the

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:25.720
<v Speaker 2>phone and you go back to bed on the couch,

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:28.719
<v Speaker 2>and you probably forget all about the call. The next day,

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:30.960
<v Speaker 2>you get again, wake up on the couch in the

0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:35.280
<v Speaker 2>same rented mansion of Lynbiscuit. You hear people shouting about something.

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:38.759
<v Speaker 2>Don't they know you're trying to sleep. Clearly they don't know,

0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:41.320
<v Speaker 2>or they don't care because they have more pressing matters.

0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Eddie van Halen is outside and he's driving up to

0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:47.240
<v Speaker 2>the mansion in a military assault vehicle, one that looks

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:49.920
<v Speaker 2>like he bought it directly from the US Army. He

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 2>pulls up to the house, drives up onto the lawn.

0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:55.399
<v Speaker 2>This thing is a beast. It has a gun mount

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 2>with a machine gun. Clearly, Eddie van Halen means business.

0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:00.920
<v Speaker 2>You go to the window and watch Eddie van Halen

0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 2>hops out of his military assault vehicle, which he leaves

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:06.000
<v Speaker 2>running on the lawn in case he needs like make

0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 2>a speedy exit. Eddie van Halen huffs it puffs as

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:11.240
<v Speaker 2>he walks up to the front door. He's not wearing

0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:14.200
<v Speaker 2>a shirt. His jeans have no belt. Instead, he has

0:49:14.239 --> 0:49:17.320
<v Speaker 2>a rope where a belt should be. He's wearing combat

0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 2>boots fastened together with duct tape, and his hair is

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:24.000
<v Speaker 2>piled atop his head like a Samurai top knot. He

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:26.399
<v Speaker 2>looks a mess. Oh, and he also has a gun

0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:28.680
<v Speaker 2>in his hand. You see Fred Durst go to the

0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 2>door and open it to greet Eddie van Halen. When

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:33.680
<v Speaker 2>the front door swings open, Eddie van Halen lifts his

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:35.919
<v Speaker 2>gun and he aims it right at Fred Durst's red

0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:40.479
<v Speaker 2>hat and he barks at Fred, where's my Fred looks

0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:42.799
<v Speaker 2>at you and says, tell Peter to go get Eddie

0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:46.160
<v Speaker 2>van Halen. You don't know who Peter is, so you

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:49.439
<v Speaker 2>just shake your head. Fred calls out, Peter, get Eddie

0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 2>van Halen's guitars and ams from the studio and bring

0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:55.680
<v Speaker 2>them out here. Satisfied, eddievan Halen lowers the gun, but

0:49:55.880 --> 0:49:58.280
<v Speaker 2>just so he can light a cigarette. Once he screws

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:00.839
<v Speaker 2>that litzig into his waiting face, he raises the gun

0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:03.279
<v Speaker 2>and points it again at Fred Durst. The two men

0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:05.719
<v Speaker 2>stand out front in the Beverly Hills mansion in the

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 2>middle of the day as they wait for Eddie van

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Halen's music gear to be delivered out to them. The

0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:14.799
<v Speaker 2>assault vehicle idols in the background. Neither man talks. Once

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:17.560
<v Speaker 2>the assistant guitar tech Peter comes out with the stuff.

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:20.480
<v Speaker 2>You watch as Eddie van Halen personally calls it to

0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:24.239
<v Speaker 2>his waiting assault vehicle. No one helps her load it.

0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Once he has all his stuff, Eddie van Halen tucks

0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:29.960
<v Speaker 2>his gun into his jeans with the rope belt, climbs

0:50:29.960 --> 0:50:32.720
<v Speaker 2>into his military assault vehicle with the machine gun mount,

0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 2>and he drives away. Is that not the best?

0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:43.360
<v Speaker 4>His outfit is amazed? This just sounds so rad his

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:46.600
<v Speaker 4>hair all up top. Was Valerie Burton Ellie like at

0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:48.480
<v Speaker 4>the catbird seat shooting the gun.

0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:50.680
<v Speaker 2>She's like, yeah, she's in the driver's seat, she's waiting.

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Then she positioned, repositioned in the the mount, she's aiming

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:57.680
<v Speaker 2>the gun. Sixty col. So now, I'm sorry to make

0:50:57.680 --> 0:50:59.680
<v Speaker 2>you a groupie for lymp Biscuits, but I wanted you

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:02.920
<v Speaker 2>to have a front roast scene, low point in their lives.

0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 2>So that one's wild, right, Yeah, I've got a couple more.

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:08.799
<v Speaker 2>This next one is another one of my favorite fred

0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:11.759
<v Speaker 2>Durst stories. Did you know that in twenty fifteen Fred

0:51:11.840 --> 0:51:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Durst was banned from Ukraine?

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:14.680
<v Speaker 4>Band from Ukraine?

0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Why was fred Durst banned from Ukraine? But that's not all, Elizabeth.

0:51:17.880 --> 0:51:20.680
<v Speaker 2>There's a related question. Why was Limp Biscuit and fred

0:51:20.760 --> 0:51:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Durst banned from Estonia in twenty twenty five. What great questions, Elizabeth.

0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:27.200
<v Speaker 2>I know it all comes down to something Fred did

0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:30.160
<v Speaker 2>back in twenty fifteen. You see, Fred Durst decided to

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 2>wade into international relations and share his feelings about Russia

0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:38.040
<v Speaker 2>violently annexing Crimea from Ukraine. So the recent news hook

0:51:38.120 --> 0:51:40.920
<v Speaker 2>is that in November of last year, twenty twenty five,

0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:44.560
<v Speaker 2>the show promoter, Baltic Live Agency, canceled a Limp Biscuit

0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:48.319
<v Speaker 2>show scheduled for May of this year in Talline, Estonia.

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:51.840
<v Speaker 2>According to the Estonian news agency er R, the promoter

0:51:51.920 --> 0:51:54.640
<v Speaker 2>put out this press release stating that quote, we inform

0:51:54.719 --> 0:51:57.480
<v Speaker 2>you that, due to circumstances beyond the organizer's control, the

0:51:57.520 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Limp Biscuit concert plan for May thirty first, twenty two,

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:03.080
<v Speaker 2>twenty six is canceled. Our apologies exclamation point.

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:09.080
<v Speaker 4>They're all on their knees, all across Estonian bruising. Wait,

0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:11.480
<v Speaker 4>what is it? What does it have to do with Ukraine?

0:52:11.680 --> 0:52:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tie it all together for you. So

0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:16.319
<v Speaker 2>that same Estonian news site they clarified that it wasn't

0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:17.920
<v Speaker 2>due to the fact that it wasn't two thousand and

0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:20.399
<v Speaker 2>two anymore, and there was no demand for tickets, but

0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:23.480
<v Speaker 2>rather that the canceled show stemmed from Fred Durst holding

0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 2>up a sign back in twenty fifteen that read quote

0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Crimea equals Russia. Now this was one year after it

0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:34.760
<v Speaker 2>was Russia annex Crimea from Ukraine? Like not like before

0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:35.480
<v Speaker 2>one year?

0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:38.400
<v Speaker 4>Was it like standing with the people of Ukraine.

0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:42.000
<v Speaker 2>No, he was standing with the Russians. Oh, Fred, No, Elizabeth,

0:52:42.080 --> 0:52:45.319
<v Speaker 2>you may be wondering, why would Jacksonville, Florida is fine

0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:48.239
<v Speaker 2>as Fred Durst have strong opinions about international relations in

0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Russia's seizure of crime questions doesn't normally expressed political sentiments

0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:55.839
<v Speaker 2>about the USA. No, Well, from the articles I read,

0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:58.520
<v Speaker 2>the credit for Fred's political awakening dates back to his

0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:02.720
<v Speaker 2>marriage to his third wife, Russian makeup artist Kenitsia Brerozina.

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:05.879
<v Speaker 2>So you see, back in twenty fifteen, the same year

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:08.640
<v Speaker 2>he held up that sign Crimea equals Russia, he also

0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:11.760
<v Speaker 2>publicly expressed his interest in buying a home in Crimea.

0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Not only that, he also publicly expressed his interest in

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:17.480
<v Speaker 2>getting into the Crimean film and TV industry and making

0:53:17.600 --> 0:53:21.799
<v Speaker 2>movies over there. According to Billboard Magazine, which cited this

0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Russian newspaper that reported that Fred quote said, sent a

0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:28.560
<v Speaker 2>leather Crimean authorities in which he said that he was

0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 2>interested in spending half of the year in the region

0:53:31.120 --> 0:53:33.920
<v Speaker 2>producing films and TV series that would take Russia to

0:53:34.000 --> 0:53:36.440
<v Speaker 2>a new level in the industry, also working for a

0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:38.320
<v Speaker 2>great future of Crimea and Russia.

0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:39.960
<v Speaker 4>No I just.

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Once spread durs wants to get his foot in the

0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:48.640
<v Speaker 2>door in the Russian film. He also reportedly told the

0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:52.360
<v Speaker 2>same thing to Spotneck International, another Russian news outlet. He

0:53:52.400 --> 0:53:54.240
<v Speaker 2>added that he was hopefully he could get a Russian

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:57.399
<v Speaker 2>passport and to sway the Russians in his favor. Fred

0:53:57.400 --> 0:54:00.239
<v Speaker 2>apparently wrote a letter to Crimean officials in which he

0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:03.719
<v Speaker 2>lauds Vladimir Putin and referred to him as quote a

0:54:03.760 --> 0:54:06.880
<v Speaker 2>great guy with clear moral principles and a nice person.

0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:11.200
<v Speaker 4>Did he land an ambassadorship this time around?

0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:15.840
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean Jordan cabinet position. W Bush said he

0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:18.719
<v Speaker 2>saw his soul, and he saw his soul or the

0:54:19.160 --> 0:54:21.359
<v Speaker 2>soul of Vladimir Putin in his eyes, right, And so

0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:23.759
<v Speaker 2>I think he's trying to piggyback off that kind of leg.

0:54:23.800 --> 0:54:26.200
<v Speaker 2>But he's just like fifteen years late on this, or

0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:29.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, I guess fourteen yeah, so between the sign

0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:32.400
<v Speaker 2>he held up his comments on Vladimir Putin's fining qualities

0:54:32.400 --> 0:54:34.879
<v Speaker 2>as a human being. The Nation of Ukraine banded Fred

0:54:34.960 --> 0:54:38.319
<v Speaker 2>Durst and Limp Biscuit their music Yeah Right Buddy, which

0:54:38.360 --> 0:54:41.600
<v Speaker 2>brings us to the canceled twenty twenty six show in Estonia.

0:54:41.719 --> 0:54:45.600
<v Speaker 2>After Fred's comments about Putin being a nice guy resurfaced online,

0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:49.719
<v Speaker 2>the Estonian Ministry of Foreign Affairs publicly noted supporters of

0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Putin and his invasion of Ukraine were not welcome in Estonia. Nice.

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:57.000
<v Speaker 2>But that's not all because for those who still followed

0:54:57.040 --> 0:55:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Limp biscuits musical output, there was also a music video

0:55:00.400 --> 0:55:03.120
<v Speaker 2>that muddied the waters as well, because in twenty twenty three,

0:55:03.160 --> 0:55:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Olympis Get put out a music video for their new

0:55:05.440 --> 0:55:09.720
<v Speaker 2>song out of Style just says it all. I assume

0:55:09.719 --> 0:55:11.439
<v Speaker 2>it's a commentary in the fact that over the years

0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:15.280
<v Speaker 2>the band has refused to change in style or sound. Sure, anyway,

0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:17.360
<v Speaker 2>I watched the music video because I know you wouldn't

0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:20.840
<v Speaker 2>the first Woo girl, it is something. The video features

0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:23.040
<v Speaker 2>the reunited band like Westborland is back.

0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:25.680
<v Speaker 4>At the bed, Yeah, Eddie van Halen's Hole.

0:55:26.480 --> 0:55:30.839
<v Speaker 2>They're performing in a suburban garage just starting all over again, right,

0:55:30.880 --> 0:55:31.920
<v Speaker 2>like the garage.

0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:36.960
<v Speaker 4>Jars men, Yes, grown men who have to get prostate exams. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>grown men with sciatica.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's like fifty two to fifty three years old

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<v Speaker 2>at this point. But the band they don't look like themselves, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think they know that they look like people

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<v Speaker 2>who have sciatica and need prostating SAMs. So instead they

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<v Speaker 2>have deep faked faces, right, they have like fake faces

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<v Speaker 2>like the computer enhanced ye every.

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<v Speaker 4>Place, the reverse aging like from the Irishman.

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<v Speaker 2>The fred Durst has made it look like Vladimir Putin.

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<v Speaker 4>No no, no no, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Still wearing his trademark red hat, so it's Putin wearing

0:56:05.200 --> 0:56:07.960
<v Speaker 2>fred Durst like red hat. Quite the look. Then there's

0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:10.360
<v Speaker 2>the guitarist West Borland. He's deep fake to look like

0:56:10.440 --> 0:56:12.799
<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden and he even like falls off a kid's bike,

0:56:12.800 --> 0:56:14.399
<v Speaker 2>which to make fun of the fact Joe Biden fell

0:56:14.400 --> 0:56:16.799
<v Speaker 2>off a bike at the time. Then there's the turntables

0:56:16.880 --> 0:56:20.600
<v Speaker 2>DJ Lethal who looks like Vollitimayer Zelensky right, and the

0:56:20.680 --> 0:56:23.399
<v Speaker 2>drummer he's made to look like Jijinping, which I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even want to get into the whole implication to that

0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:28.440
<v Speaker 2>it's all in hinge, right, it's not kind of un

0:56:28.480 --> 0:56:31.640
<v Speaker 2>it it's all unhinged now, Elizabeth, let me tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>Seeing Vladimir Putin and Fred's distinctive red hat while he's

0:56:35.680 --> 0:56:39.600
<v Speaker 2>air scratching the turntables inside the suburban garage is just

0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:42.400
<v Speaker 2>a wild image to content. I'm good. There's also the

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<v Speaker 2>shot of Vladimir Putin's aka Fred holding up a beer

0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:48.400
<v Speaker 2>bong in the garage while Joe Biden aka Wes Borland

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<v Speaker 2>and DJ lethal Is Zolensky and the drummer Zijongping. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>cheer him on to drink it. Another wild moment in

0:56:54.920 --> 0:56:55.960
<v Speaker 2>my life to consider.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really incisive political commentary that.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets clear, you get the message. This is up

0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:09.800
<v Speaker 2>there with like Genesis and yeah, yeah, but I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>gotten to the lyrics of the song.

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<v Speaker 4>They are cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry. Expecting Time is a production of Fred sings I've

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<v Speaker 2>been asking for something, asking for something. Well, I'm asking

0:57:22.120 --> 0:57:26.240
<v Speaker 2>for nothing. Ask him for nothing. When's it gonna change?

0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Hurts me in a loving kind of way. I'm gonna celebrate. Yeah,

0:57:31.960 --> 0:57:33.920
<v Speaker 2>And then he goes on to wrap It's time to

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<v Speaker 2>rock this because I'm always out of style. Never changed

0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:39.920
<v Speaker 2>my style because my style is kind of fresh. You

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<v Speaker 2>asking for a sound check check one two? You barely

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<v Speaker 2>touch the ground. Yeah, so there you go.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not enough for political insight.

0:57:50.240 --> 0:57:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Totally looks and goes, I wish I had that talent.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I have one more fun fact about that music.

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<v Speaker 2>It was made in twenty two twenty three, which was

0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:03.720
<v Speaker 2>five years after Fred divorced his Russian makeup artist w

0:58:04.160 --> 0:58:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Didncia Bitterzino. They split back in twenty eighteen, so we

0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:10.720
<v Speaker 2>can't blame his wife for his pro putin content. And

0:58:10.760 --> 0:58:12.760
<v Speaker 2>I've really never liked to do like blame the wife

0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:14.560
<v Speaker 2>or blame a woman for what a man does. But

0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:17.400
<v Speaker 2>point of fact, it was Fred all along. So which

0:58:17.400 --> 0:58:21.440
<v Speaker 2>brings us to my last Fred Nurse tuita another personal

0:58:21.480 --> 0:58:24.640
<v Speaker 2>favor because it evolves the band Insane Clown Posse.

0:58:24.760 --> 0:58:25.440
<v Speaker 4>Are You kidding?

0:58:26.240 --> 0:58:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Aka? The other Wheeze?

0:58:27.880 --> 0:58:30.400
<v Speaker 4>Are there Furries? Can we just can we go all in?

0:58:30.800 --> 0:58:33.840
<v Speaker 2>So the story goes back in twenty eighteen when Limp

0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Biscuit was performing in Camden, New Jersey at the Rock

0:58:36.840 --> 0:58:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Allegiance Festival. Their co headliners were The Insane Clown Posse

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<v Speaker 2>featuring rappers Violent Jay and Shaggy two Dope. So they

0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:47.760
<v Speaker 2>were backstage while Limp Biscuit was on stage doing their set.

0:58:48.000 --> 0:58:50.280
<v Speaker 2>The bands are running through their cover of George Michael's

0:58:50.280 --> 0:58:53.760
<v Speaker 2>song Faith m you know, the scream singing affair, and

0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:55.840
<v Speaker 2>I guess Shaggy Too Dope had the same kind of

0:58:55.840 --> 0:58:58.960
<v Speaker 2>reaction you have and it just said had enough? So

0:58:59.000 --> 0:59:02.520
<v Speaker 2>what does he do? Question? Listen. Yes, Shaggy Too Dope

0:59:02.680 --> 0:59:05.040
<v Speaker 2>rocks up the nerve to go out on stage mid

0:59:05.080 --> 0:59:07.320
<v Speaker 2>set and he attempts to do a flying kung fu

0:59:07.440 --> 0:59:08.680
<v Speaker 2>kick at Fred Durst.

0:59:09.040 --> 0:59:10.360
<v Speaker 4>He just couldn't take it anymore.

0:59:10.480 --> 0:59:12.919
<v Speaker 2>No, he's like, I gotta kick him off the stage. Yes,

0:59:13.320 --> 0:59:15.880
<v Speaker 2>I say attempt because his take off with not Queen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I could imagine this estimation.

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<v Speaker 2>Of his kung fu skill was overblown, his desire far

0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:25.160
<v Speaker 2>away his skill. What must have been a great idea

0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:26.720
<v Speaker 2>when his brain came up, when it turned into a

0:59:26.760 --> 0:59:28.480
<v Speaker 2>pathetic attemp in his body execut.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like when children are like, watch this and in

0:59:31.080 --> 0:59:34.120
<v Speaker 4>their mind they're gonna like fly through the air. They're

0:59:34.120 --> 0:59:37.360
<v Speaker 4>gonna be like some sort of anime figures.

0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:40.080
<v Speaker 2>So you know, and then it's just Shaggy too dope.

0:59:40.120 --> 0:59:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Gravity disagrees, another victim of gravity. So Fred is on

0:59:43.800 --> 0:59:46.600
<v Speaker 2>the mic, singing with Shaggy two Dope emergents fight his stage.

0:59:46.600 --> 0:59:48.640
<v Speaker 2>He sort of half runs out on stage, leaves into

0:59:48.640 --> 0:59:51.600
<v Speaker 2>the air sideways to perform his flying kick, and then

0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:54.560
<v Speaker 2>gravity humbles him. He slams at the stage before making

0:59:54.600 --> 0:59:59.520
<v Speaker 2>contact with Fred Durst. So, as music outlet Metal Sucks reported,

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<v Speaker 2>oh and I quote. What's not presently clear is whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not mister two dope sincerely intended to hurt mister Durst.

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<v Speaker 2>One concertgoer, noting that the two have collaborated before, says

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<v Speaker 2>that Durst quote shouted out ICP earlier in the set,

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<v Speaker 2>and two dopes body language is throwing horns, running blacks

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<v Speaker 2>of days, et cetera, does not suggest any earnest aggression.

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<v Speaker 4>So what if I'm him and I meant to kick

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<v Speaker 4>him right in the head and lop his noggin off

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<v Speaker 4>and have it rolled across the stace. I missed two

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<v Speaker 4>three feet, I'd like I meant to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just play acting, man, me, I'm crazy. How

1:00:38.480 --> 1:00:44.040
<v Speaker 2>funny is that insane clown? Posse? So, after his flying

1:00:44.120 --> 1:00:46.760
<v Speaker 2>kick fails. Fred Durst dressed in a by the way

1:00:46.880 --> 1:00:50.439
<v Speaker 2>Bo Jackson raiders Jersey and a wide brand Wow, dare

1:00:50.560 --> 1:00:54.200
<v Speaker 2>you gamo hunting hat? And I don't know dirt bike gloves,

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<v Speaker 2>He proudly says to the crowd. What he couldn't even

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<v Speaker 2>pull it off. And at this point security team drags

1:01:01.080 --> 1:01:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Shaggy Too Dope off stage. I couldn't find any reports

1:01:04.360 --> 1:01:07.560
<v Speaker 2>of any criminal charges filed against mister two dope. And

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<v Speaker 2>after that, Elizabeth is where we will leave it.

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<v Speaker 4>He should then Bo Jackson should have come out on

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<v Speaker 4>the stage and just ended him.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's ridiculous Jackson Jersey?

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<v Speaker 4>Mmm? You know, I thought we were friends, but you.

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<v Speaker 2>Do all these mashups at me. So I had to

1:01:29.360 --> 1:01:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Fred Durst at you.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think I will call it even though,

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<v Speaker 4>So what's yours takeaway?

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<v Speaker 2>I was surprised when I was doing this research that

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<v Speaker 2>he hasn't spent much time behind bars or had very

1:01:45.760 --> 1:01:50.000
<v Speaker 2>serious charges. It's mostly him doing adolescent antics in an

1:01:50.040 --> 1:01:52.640
<v Speaker 2>embarrassing way and then running off to the next place

1:01:52.640 --> 1:01:55.240
<v Speaker 2>he can get attention and then doing it again, wash

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<v Speaker 2>rants repeat. I was just like, you know, and like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pulling for the guy. Honestly, Like, I'm like reading

1:02:00.640 --> 1:02:03.080
<v Speaker 2>these stories, I'm like, I want you to overcome your

1:02:03.080 --> 1:02:06.640
<v Speaker 2>fred durstness, kill the monster that you created fred Durst.

1:02:07.080 --> 1:02:08.040
<v Speaker 2>And he just refuses.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I just keep waiting for him to pop off

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<v Speaker 4>to the wrong person.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's done a good job of picking people

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<v Speaker 2>who cannot find his home address, or if they are,

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<v Speaker 2>and they show up with just the most insane stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and just out.

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<v Speaker 4>Crazy, like you know the Creed dude, Jimmy Creed. He's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you want to fight, well, let's do this for charity

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<v Speaker 4>and we'll wear boxing gloves. Yeah, he's not going to

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<v Speaker 4>go out and actually do it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's not going to like lace up gloves and

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<v Speaker 2>swing those things. Tell you in the mood for a talkback,

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<v Speaker 2>believe I figure you need it desperately. Oh God, I want.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi. This is Anna from Texas and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>tell you about my ridiculous family. In the late eighteen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 5>my Italian immigrant family came to Vicksburg, Mississippi, and started

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<v Speaker 5>a little grocery store there, and they almost completely burned

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<v Speaker 5>down the entire block because they were trying to ripen

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<v Speaker 5>bananas by candlelight in the middle of the night and

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<v Speaker 5>that is just ridiculous. Thanks for the great show.

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<v Speaker 4>the uncle or grandfather who came up with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's like, yes, we get a lot of candles.

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<v Speaker 4>And then they find out you just put them in

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<v Speaker 4>a paper bag.

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<v Speaker 2>What what now? No? I like, we got all these candles.

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<v Speaker 2>We know how hard it was to get all this.

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