Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Dutton Zaren Burnett. So good to see how you see?
Speaker 2: I'm good good. Another question for you while you're on
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Speaker 2: do I know it's ridiculous? Do you do? You really?
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Speaker 4: here's the thing, like, if you want to talk stereotypes,
Speaker 4: you got the natty light drinker mowing a lawn.
Speaker 2: So anyway, Uh, they really don't know their market.
Speaker 4: No, they don't. What they've done in.
Speaker 2: Order to I've never met a Natural Light drinker who
Speaker 2: gave a wink about their lawn.
Speaker 4: Oh see, you didn't live down south.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I'm including that part. There is definitely that.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I haven't met them. You have you
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Speaker 2: See, I'd like to believe that they drink better beer
Speaker 2: than that. I know in a bunch of them.
Speaker 4: They don't.
Speaker 2: They don't, Okay, they don't.
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Speaker 4: my garage. My garage is freezing anyway. Kristin Stowe, who's
Speaker 4: head of marketing at Bush Family and Natural Family Annheuser
Speaker 4: Bush Yes, said quote, there's nothing like the smell of
Speaker 4: fresh cut grass and an ice cold natty in your
Speaker 4: hand after a perfect mow. But winter shuts down the
Speaker 4: lawn and that's where the treadmower comes in. The garage
Speaker 4: is where our fans fell most at home. No fluorescent light,
Speaker 4: it's no crowds, just uninterrupted mowing glory and a cold
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Speaker 4: I call for her immediate termination. The thing is, there's
Speaker 4: only one, there's only one tread mow. Where they just
Speaker 4: made one.
Speaker 2: Of them was more like bud light to me.
Speaker 4: But it's more of a bud light thing. You can
Speaker 4: enter to win the tread mower. Why and uh and
Speaker 4: so you have to be twenty one and over. It's
Speaker 4: there's only one. If you win it, you get the
Speaker 4: only one there is. There's a picture of it album.
Speaker 2: There's just one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Zaren, Can I tell you something? I found this
Speaker 4: in time. This came to us from p Aka Teley
Speaker 4: Fox on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Hello Pey Fox.
Speaker 4: I found it in time, and you know what I
Speaker 4: can tell you. I entered you to win it. Hand
Speaker 4: to God I did.
Speaker 2: Between you and Tely Fox. I'm raising my hand to God.
Speaker 4: How great would that be? If you just, like you
Speaker 4: know how people have like a standing desk, you're gonna
Speaker 4: have like a treadmill or recording situation where you're on there,
Speaker 4: just all chugging back natty lights.
Speaker 2: On and back, trying to forget my life choices. It
Speaker 2: led me to this, Well.
Speaker 4: If you feel a little crazy, maybe like sprinkle crystal
Speaker 4: light in one of them, A little taki for you,
Speaker 4: No for you.
Speaker 2: I don't drink. I just watch, Yeah, I just watch.
Speaker 2: I know like crystal light.
Speaker 4: Though, so I know I'll lend you one of my little.
Speaker 2: Thank you I'll keep you.
Speaker 4: Run a line of crystal light into it, you rail
Speaker 4: rail of crystal into the natty you live in the life?
Speaker 2: Son?
Speaker 4: Why yeah?
Speaker 2: That welcome I have so many questions answered.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, you don't even need Elizabeth. Thank you
Speaker 4: so much for thinking of me and entering me into
Speaker 4: this contest. Oh my god, honey, No, don't worry about it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I can get you the number of that marketing lady too.
Speaker 2: I don't even want to be mean to her, but like, really,
Speaker 2: this is what you do with your one wildlife.
Speaker 4: Everyone you know what, everyone brings their own gift to
Speaker 4: the party.
Speaker 2: Sure, yes, this is the worst white elephant party.
Speaker 4: This is what I do.
Speaker 2: So I got some ridiculous for you please, and it's
Speaker 2: very much in the spirit of what you just said.
Speaker 2: It me synergy. Yeah. So the lead singer slash rapper
Speaker 2: for lint Biscuit, Fred Durst.
Speaker 4: Oh my, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Roll credits is a production. There's actually way more. I've
Speaker 2: got a really fun one for you today, Elizabeth. It's
Speaker 2: Fred Durst Versus the World. I'm gonna need that treadmore
Speaker 2: and the Natye. This is Ridiculous Crime a podcast about
Speaker 2: absurd and outrageous capers, heist and cons. It's always ninety
Speaker 2: nine percent murder free and one hundred percent ridiculous. It's
Speaker 2: ridiculous it's murder.
Speaker 4: Free. Murder is the case that they gave me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then you got free of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that. That's where close your eyes my
Speaker 4: eyes are closed comes from. I know that you know
Speaker 4: that snoops, murder is the case my eyes are closed.
Speaker 2: But as you say up top, there's no one big,
Speaker 2: singular crime in this story. Instead, it's a series of crimes.
Speaker 2: Micro crimes, yes, summer traditional crimes involve cops and judges.
Speaker 2: Others are just crimes against good taste.
Speaker 4: I like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I need to ask what are your thoughts
Speaker 2: about Fred Durst, like back in the day, did you
Speaker 2: ever see him or worse yet, meet him or has
Speaker 2: your brother ever shared a stage with him?
Speaker 4: I've not met him. I know they were on the
Speaker 4: Warped tour when a bunch of my friends were on it, Okay,
Speaker 4: and they weren't fans of Okay, by the end of
Speaker 4: the thing, you know, it was that whole rap rock
Speaker 4: thing I never got into.
Speaker 2: Yes, not my bag the no, No, this is more
Speaker 2: like rap metal. But yeah, but they were in rock categories.
Speaker 4: You're not wrong, Okay, rap metal.
Speaker 2: Met to set the stage. I want to have Fred
Speaker 2: Durst speak for himself. Oh no, because credit to him,
Speaker 2: he's not going to actually be on the show, but
Speaker 2: he knows who he is.
Speaker 4: I was so scared. I was like looking at the door, I'm.
Speaker 2: Bar the doors, Fred, do you want to come into
Speaker 2: the room? For instance. Also, you see this red hat
Speaker 2: bobbing along.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: So, he says the character Fred Durst was a monster
Speaker 2: of his own making in an interview.
Speaker 4: You know that's that's a good retcon there, of like
Speaker 4: when you just geeze everybody off and they're like no, no, no,
Speaker 4: So my character works.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I meant to do that. It's all genius. So
Speaker 2: in an interview with the music outlet Metal Hammer, Durst said,
Speaker 2: and I quote, I always knew the guy in the
Speaker 2: red cap was not me. I'm doctor Frankenstein and that's
Speaker 2: my creature. Being a breakdancer, a graffiti artist, a tattoo
Speaker 2: artist and liking rock and hip hop was too much.
Speaker 2: It was a conscious effort to create Fred Durst, and
Speaker 2: eventually I had to bring that guy out more than
Speaker 2: I wanted to. It took on a life of its own.
Speaker 2: I had to check into that character, the gorilla, the thing,
Speaker 2: the red cap guy. It's a painful transformation but I
Speaker 2: do it because that's what I was taught to do
Speaker 2: when you have people pulling at you.
Speaker 4: This is a painful transformation, right from.
Speaker 2: Doctor Jekyll and mister Hide. It seems to delicate that
Speaker 2: he's pulling.
Speaker 4: But well he's going from absolute delicate and actual too
Speaker 4: man who buys loose cigarettes in the parking lot of
Speaker 4: a gas station.
Speaker 2: It's quite a transformation. So does this that quote make
Speaker 2: you feel for fred Durst now just a little bit?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: No, Well, at the moment, fred Durst is currently battling
Speaker 2: a giant trying to get some justice, or rather, he's
Speaker 2: trying to get paid money. He feels he's owed. But
Speaker 2: you may be wondering, Zaren, who is this giant in
Speaker 2: this David vers Goliath story?
Speaker 4: The guy from the succession, the tall guy from succession.
Speaker 2: No good guys, cousin Greg? Yeah, No, it's Universal Music Group.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Last year, Headlines reported on the feud between Fred Durst
Speaker 2: and his band Limp Biscuit versus Universal Music Group Limp Biscuit.
Speaker 2: They apparently filed a lawsuit against UMG, claiming that the
Speaker 2: music label had cheated them out of like get this,
Speaker 2: about two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 4: Two hundred millions. Yes, I mean I believe the cheating part.
Speaker 4: I mean, hello, but like.
Speaker 2: They rowed two hundred million.
Speaker 4: I guess they did. People did like it.
Speaker 2: I guess right. Tune to two hundred million missing. That's
Speaker 2: not the total amount of the.
Speaker 4: Mad I mean, you've already bought a lot of ski.
Speaker 2: News exactly, so it's a variety report on the story.
Speaker 2: Quote Ombiscuit originally claimed UMG designed and implemented royalty software
Speaker 2: and systems that were deliberately designed to conceal artists royalties
Speaker 2: and keep those profits for itself. UMG filed its motion
Speaker 2: to dismiss the lawsuit in November, claiming that the lawsuit
Speaker 2: is specifically the alleged concealment of royalties was quote fiction.
Speaker 2: They pulled fiction out on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like, you're a fictional character.
Speaker 2: Guess what I remember second grade when you learn it
Speaker 2: fiction and nonfiction were you're the other. So, all right,
Speaker 2: what's the latest news on Fred Durst? I think that's
Speaker 2: just the latest news, right, I got way more so
Speaker 2: I think we should go back to the beginning of this.
Speaker 2: I'll try to get you on the side of Fred
Speaker 2: Durst now, pointing out that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, it's gonna take a whole lot more than that, I.
Speaker 2: Bet, and that's gonna be Do you know what?
Speaker 4: You may surprise me?
Speaker 2: Who knows? I asked you to consider a simple question.
Speaker 2: Is Fred Durst? Hmmm, you don't have an answer yet,
Speaker 2: but I'm about to give you some inklings of one.
Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy in Jacksonville, Florida, he was born Frederick
Speaker 2: Allen Maine the third.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, well when he was still My brain is
Speaker 4: processing a couple things here, fred.
Speaker 2: Main, So Fred Main Third. He was still in Florida,
Speaker 2: his parents divorced, and then his mother relocated North Carolina.
Speaker 2: She meets this new guy. They soon get married. His
Speaker 2: mother renames her baby in honor of his new stepfather,
Speaker 2: a police officer named Bill Durst.
Speaker 4: His stepdad was a car Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Now the toddler was known as William Frederick Durst drop
Speaker 2: the third. He's like that's out.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well yeah, he's not Maine anymore. They don't
Speaker 4: remember the Main.
Speaker 2: No, not at all. No glory, no wars will be
Speaker 2: fought for this poet. So his homiestart calling Fred instead
Speaker 2: of William or Bill. As a kid, Fred Durst was
Speaker 2: a bit of an audiball. He said off and that
Speaker 2: he was bullied, and then he was a bit of
Speaker 2: a nerd. He one of his heroes was Booger from
Speaker 2: Revenge of the Nerds. He escaped the taunts of Schoolyard
Speaker 2: by throwing himself into music. Common story. He got into
Speaker 2: hip hop and break dancing, and he would wrap and
Speaker 2: beat box. He also did some DJing, but at the
Speaker 2: same time he was also deep into punk rock and
Speaker 2: heavy metal and death metal in particular, like Dicide. I
Speaker 2: think I would have been one of the bullies. So
Speaker 2: after Fred graduates high school, he joins the navy. He
Speaker 2: goes out, gets out of Jacksonville, he sees the Warbeth
Speaker 2: bans his horizons. After his stint as a seaman and
Speaker 2: a sailor, he came home and lived with his father
Speaker 2: back in Jacksonville, Florida, mister Maine. The second while he
Speaker 2: was exactly while, he worked as a tattoo artist and
Speaker 2: the landscaper because you know, the art didn't pay enough.
Speaker 4: No, he was tattoo artist, you know, not mocking.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not anyway either.
Speaker 4: Professions it's the combo job right there.
Speaker 2: So he starts doing his part. You to beautify the
Speaker 2: world and give people skin art, and he also begins
Speaker 2: to kick around the idea another way to beautify the world,
Speaker 2: or at least make noise. Start the band he's dreamed
Speaker 2: about from back when he was in the navy.
Speaker 4: If you win the treadmill or will you give it
Speaker 4: to him, you.
Speaker 2: Share it with him. So Fred decides he wants to
Speaker 2: combine his two great loves metal and rap. How can
Speaker 2: he do this? But at this point it's nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 2: Other people have already done it, so he's like, okay,
Speaker 2: I have ideas. Oh I can party do it in
Speaker 2: a new way. So Fred approaches an old high school friend,
Speaker 2: a drummer, and he goes, hey, you want to start
Speaker 2: a band? And his friend's like, oh, man, I would
Speaker 2: love to. I'm underemployed. This sounds like a great idea.
Speaker 2: So he brings in a bassis he knows, and they'll
Speaker 2: start writing songs together, but they're missing something Elizabeth. Soon enough,
Speaker 2: he sees this guitarist performing and he's like, that's the
Speaker 2: guy we need. Sure, the band approaches Wes Borland and
Speaker 2: it convinces him join our team. They renamed their new
Speaker 2: band now Limp Biscuit, which was Fred's idea cause, oh really,
Speaker 2: name that was repellent to the fans or possible fans,
Speaker 2: Limp Biscuits. So Limp Biscuit starts to play gigs around Florida.
Speaker 4: That's one of those things like you gotta imagine, like
Speaker 4: I've had friends with unfortunate band names, and then when
Speaker 4: someone says, right, when someone says, oh, you're in a band,
Speaker 4: what's it called gulp Limp Biscuit?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, are you any other bands? First band? Huh yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: So Limp Biscut is point. They get some attention in
Speaker 2: the underground scene. They're really getting a name known for
Speaker 2: playing covers. They play Paula Abdul songs straight up and
Speaker 2: choose song with with Scat Cat.
Speaker 4: Right, but no, wait, does Scott Cat in the straight up?
Speaker 2: No? I think so is he? I think he's a
Speaker 2: I think it's in the other one.
Speaker 4: One step forward, two steps back, we go together, because opposite's.
Speaker 2: A trap there, it is?
Speaker 4: It is so I'm telling you, it's like sometimes you
Speaker 4: drop the piggy bank and the coins come.
Speaker 2: Out breaks open. So at this point they're also doing
Speaker 2: George Michael's song Faith the later. Yeah, that becomes like
Speaker 2: a staple of the screaming. Yes exactly, they scream where
Speaker 2: George Michael would sing.
Speaker 4: That's offensive into the spirit of Jorge Michelle.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the one comes two bands that we actually like,
Speaker 2: Sick of It All and Corn. Okay only I like Corn.
Speaker 4: You like Corn?
Speaker 2: I like Sick of it All? Yeah, I like them both.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so Sick of it All is opening for
Speaker 2: Corn while they're playing shows, and this is nineteen ninety four. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: at this point, Corn is not a big time band.
Speaker 2: They're still playing shows at small clubs. Like I actually
Speaker 2: think I saw them on this tour because I saw
Speaker 2: a Sick of All was opening for Yeah. Yeah, not
Speaker 2: the other way around. You would think the other way
Speaker 2: around you would. Yeah, at a show that I saw
Speaker 2: him at the Cattle Club Sacramento, it.
Speaker 4: Did seeing Sick of it All make you want to
Speaker 4: punch people?
Speaker 2: Oh my god? Yeah, so good, totally. It was a
Speaker 2: great show. But Fred Durst does something that I never
Speaker 2: thought to do. Back in Sacramento. He invites Corn to
Speaker 2: come back to his house. He's like, you guys should
Speaker 2: come back to my house and we could jam out.
Speaker 2: So apparently they they go with him back to his
Speaker 2: house and while he's there, he plays some Limp Biscuit
Speaker 2: demo songs. His gambit totally works Fieldy the hip hop
Speaker 2: loving basis for Corn, he's impressed. He's legit like went
Speaker 2: to a random kid's house Jacksonville, Florida and was like,
Speaker 2: that was jam out. I'm telling you this is what
Speaker 2: before they were big, but they were playing small clubs.
Speaker 2: You can all sleep in your place, We'll be there.
Speaker 2: Do you have any natty?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Co Corn now and vice Limp Biscuit, who was not
Speaker 2: signed on any label, not even a small label, to
Speaker 2: come out and open for them on tour. The band
Speaker 2: does well and the first tour goes well, so Corn
Speaker 2: invites Limp Biscuit to join them on a second tour.
Speaker 2: So really, at this point, I think we can say
Speaker 2: that Corn is to blame for Limp Biscuit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely lay it at their feet.
Speaker 2: So Limp Biscuit, though, they also get their final missing
Speaker 2: piece around the same time. They bring in DJ Lethal
Speaker 2: as their turntablist, so at this time he was the
Speaker 2: former DJ turntablist for a rap group House of Pain,
Speaker 2: who had broken up.
Speaker 4: Wait I did not know this, Yeah yeah, so wow.
Speaker 2: But ever Last went off to the do like his
Speaker 2: Whitey Forda. So at this point they're doing really good.
Speaker 2: Ninety six, things are going well for olymp Biscuit. The
Speaker 2: band's about to become a signed act. But there's trouble
Speaker 2: for the baby band because Fred Durst gets into it
Speaker 2: with the genius guitarist Wes Borland and he quits the band.
Speaker 2: So now it looks like the band will become West
Speaker 2: quits or the guitarist Wes Borland quits. It's like the
Speaker 2: known genius of the group, like, oh yeah, he's really talented,
Speaker 2: so he's out right he's gonna be a victim of
Speaker 2: Fred's ego. Somehow, Fred's sweet talks Wes Borland into rejoining
Speaker 2: the band. He does. He rejoins just in time for
Speaker 2: them to be signed to a label. He may come
Speaker 2: to him like we're to be signed to get back
Speaker 2: in the band. He does. They joined Flip Records, which
Speaker 2: is a subsidiary of Innerscope, which was Jimmy Iovine's label.
Speaker 2: You know, they were owned by Universal Music Group, which
Speaker 2: is why they're now suing them for two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2: Got It At this point goes primarily known as a
Speaker 2: label for rap. They're like, they have Doctor Dre, they
Speaker 2: have showed Knight's label death Row Records, So then when
Speaker 2: they add Limp Biscuit, it's like why right? The reason
Speaker 2: is is Jimmy Iovine is some other music industry think
Speaker 2: that gangster rap is kind of getting passe and getting
Speaker 2: passed by by this new sound known as what Elizabeth
Speaker 2: new metal.
Speaker 4: New metal. Yeah, it's not retal exactly metal.
Speaker 2: So now we both know I like new metal. I will.
Speaker 2: I'm a car Deftones Rage against the Machine, I still
Speaker 2: listen to the sound.
Speaker 4: I don't even feel like Rage against the Machine transcends
Speaker 4: that I don't put them in the new metal.
Speaker 2: Because of the actual political content of their songs.
Speaker 4: Well, it's almost like they feel like more shouty punk
Speaker 4: to me than rap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that they're not like that. His
Speaker 2: lyrics are pretty good when its amazing I think as
Speaker 2: a rapper, just in particular. Yeah, Also, do you know
Speaker 2: the soundtrack to Judgment Night has all the like rock
Speaker 2: grips going paired with a rapper. Yeah, anyway, since the
Speaker 2: mid to late nineties when New metals blowing up. So
Speaker 2: at this point, I know you're more punk rock than
Speaker 2: I am, So I'm just gonna give you some brief
Speaker 2: overview that you don't really care. So back to fred Durst.
Speaker 2: In ninety seven, they released their first album, three Dollars Bill,
Speaker 2: y'all not a big hit. The audience is like, what
Speaker 2: else you got? So band regroups that get back in
Speaker 2: the studio. In nineteen ninety nine, they released a second album,
Speaker 2: Significant Other. This is the album that has break Stuff
Speaker 2: and their track Nookie. It's the one that blows out
Speaker 2: all of a sudden. They become staples on MTV's Total
Speaker 2: Request Live the TRL. This is the start of their
Speaker 2: rising fame right so, and also it's pretty meteoric because
Speaker 2: that album was nominated for Best Rock Album at the
Speaker 2: Grammy Awards that year. Nookie gets nominated for the Best
Speaker 2: Hard Rock Performance with the Grammys.
Speaker 4: Sure the Biscuit, who else was nominated.
Speaker 2: They lost in both categories. They lost to in Best
Speaker 2: Hard Rock Performance to Metallica and they lost Best Rock
Speaker 2: Album to Santana and his album Supernatural.
Speaker 4: Oh No is that all smooth.
Speaker 2: Yeah at this point ninety six, is that like Saint Anger,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry ninety nine, I'm sorry ninety nine. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know what album that is. Yeah, So anyway, nine,
Speaker 2: it's a huge year for Biscuits, Garbage, Metallica at that point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: short Hair Metallica, so exactly anyway, Yeah, so they get
Speaker 2: invited to perform this hugely anticipated concert Woodstock ninety nine,
Speaker 2: which is we've mentioned you were at written about your
Speaker 2: time spent at the superfund waste site. Yes, known as
Speaker 2: Griffiths Air Force Base. I have to assume that you
Speaker 2: rushed over to check Limp Biscuit set. How was it?
Speaker 2: I mean, like, was that like, what's your third favorite moment?
Speaker 4: You know what I was doing during Limp Biscuits set?
Speaker 2: No, I don't running for it? Why?
Speaker 4: That was when all the riots started, Yes, and everyone
Speaker 4: was setting things on fire. And at this point I'm
Speaker 4: with Mother Jones magazine. So I'm surrounded by boxes and
Speaker 4: boxes of magazines which are very flammable. Yes, and I've
Speaker 4: got lots of like sun burned like sun poison drunks
Speaker 4: running around. We can see things starting to like come
Speaker 4: up into flames. And uh, everyone's tearing it stuff and
Speaker 4: it was like that's when I said to all my people, like,
Speaker 4: load up your bags, we're out of here. And we
Speaker 4: ran from where we were to the media tent to
Speaker 4: the parking lot and then by that time the Chili
Speaker 4: Peppers were on and we were out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that is pretty much. Do you remember that?
Speaker 2: You probably didn't because you weren't at the limp biscuit part.
Speaker 2: But AKA Mini Me for the Austin Powers movies, he's
Speaker 2: the one that came out and introduced the limp biscuit.
Speaker 4: Oh sure that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, And the backstage you would have found, like
Speaker 2: Jonathan Davis, a Corn, Jennifer Aniston, kid Rock Diddy, was
Speaker 2: that they're chilling. They're all bumping their heads to limp
Speaker 2: business together. Well, hair, let's pause for a second through
Speaker 2: the madness of Woodstock because I'm having put a pin
Speaker 2: in this and come back because there's way more to
Speaker 2: talk about Woodstock ninety nine. Okay, back in two and two,
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Zaron, We're so back. I got way more limp
Speaker 2: biscuit for you. So picking up with Woodstock ninety nine,
Speaker 2: which is a really important moment in the culture, and
Speaker 2: specifically for Limp Biscuit and their whole personal mythos and
Speaker 2: for me and for you as well, and for Elizabeth
Speaker 2: and for Elizabeth. Now when the crowd, it was like
Speaker 2: first respondinglymp Biscuit as like a you know, they begin
Speaker 2: to mosh because that's the thing to do, right, And
Speaker 2: so fred Durst tells the crowd. They want to ask
Speaker 2: us to ask you to mellow out a little bit.
Speaker 2: They say, too many people are getting hurt. Don't let
Speaker 2: anybody get hurt. But I don't think you should mellow out.
Speaker 2: Mellowing out that's what a lot is Morris had you
Speaker 2: do if someone falls, pick them up. This is his
Speaker 2: as you said, things are going crazy, this is his
Speaker 2: advice right before the flames breakout. Is like, hey man,
Speaker 2: you guys don't need to mellow out. Actually I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't over like I cannot express enough the atmosphere
Speaker 4: of this place of testosterone and like teen and twenty
Speaker 4: something men slash boys, men man boys who were so
Speaker 4: inebriated and so angry. Yes, and to be a woman
Speaker 4: in that environment was terrifying, really absolutely terrifle.
Speaker 2: I can imagine, I mean shocked.
Speaker 4: It was like you know, I just think about how
Speaker 4: it had reached a fever pitch by that point. But
Speaker 4: then these kind of roving bands of guys, and you know,
Speaker 4: I was like in my little protected area with my people,
Speaker 4: and but you know there were girls there, women there
Speaker 4: who really just wanted to have a good time, and
Speaker 4: we're getting I would see them getting groped and treated
Speaker 4: like subhuman and attacked, and then you think, like, so
Speaker 4: this line of his what's alonis more set wanted, And
Speaker 4: it was just like the whole time, You're sitting there
Speaker 4: and you're thinking, I know that you have to have
Speaker 4: contemporary music for Woodstock ninety nine, but this is so
Speaker 4: far from the spirit of Woodstock.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: It was. And I've gone to crazy punk shows, I've
Speaker 4: gone to crazy metal shows, and I have never felt
Speaker 4: that uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: And it was it. I blame Fred Durst. The moment
Speaker 2: where everything like the Damn breaks is literally the song
Speaker 2: breaks stuff. He he channels the basically as you describe it,
Speaker 2: the simmering rage of all the concert gars and at
Speaker 2: the breakdown of the song, Fred tells the crowd time
Speaker 2: to reach down deep inside and take all that negative energy,
Speaker 2: all that negative energy let that out of your system.
Speaker 2: You got girl problems, you got boy problems, you got
Speaker 2: pair problems, you got boss problems, you got job problems,
Speaker 2: you got a problem with me, you got a problem
Speaker 2: with yourself. It's time to take out all that negative
Speaker 2: energy and put it the out. Yeah, that's like the
Speaker 2: biggest recipe, Like if you want to charge some of
Speaker 2: them with inciting a.
Speaker 4: Ride, right, but more so than you know, if you
Speaker 4: went to like any kind of you go to. Let's
Speaker 4: say you go to the warp Tour and you yell
Speaker 4: that you know it's the people at Woodsuck. The difference
Speaker 4: in reaction is that they had been there for three days.
Speaker 4: You couldn't bring your own food and drink in, and
Speaker 4: the prices were exorbitant, like even on today's standards, you'd
Speaker 4: see it was like five dollars for a bottle of water.
Speaker 4: And then at this point, like halfway through the last day,
Speaker 4: the ATMs all ran out of money. And so you know,
Speaker 4: you'd have everyone's getting and that we smuggled all of
Speaker 4: our stuff in because I just refuse, you know, like
Speaker 4: one way or I'll figure it out. But I'd see
Speaker 4: people who are desperate, they were hungry, they were thirsty.
Speaker 4: They're like, well, I'll just pull out more money. Money
Speaker 4: they probably could ill afford at this point because the
Speaker 4: tickets were so expensive and it's.
Speaker 2: On a really huge slab of cement.
Speaker 4: So oppressively hot, so hot, and so muggy, and they
Speaker 4: weren't picking up garbage. Yeah, the porta potties are overflowing.
Speaker 4: There's piles of trash everywhere. People are hungry and like
Speaker 4: there now there there's no money in the ATMs, and
Speaker 4: they didn't take cards back then, and so it was
Speaker 4: just like everyone's mad, just so mad. And so either
Speaker 4: they were just leaving and saying this isn't worth it,
Speaker 4: or they're listening to this ding dong up on stage
Speaker 4: who's like, do you hate everything?
Speaker 2: How mad are you mad? Now, all fifty thousand of
Speaker 2: you here, you can hear my voice. The crowd starts
Speaker 2: to tear the place apart, literally, like now they're not washing.
Speaker 2: The fistfights break out, crowd members tear the perimeter fence apart.
Speaker 2: Some folks tried the crowd surfwood. I'm sure you probably
Speaker 2: we could see it.
Speaker 4: And we could see too, like there were the towers
Speaker 4: for the lighting rigs.
Speaker 2: And stuck in a lighting sway.
Speaker 4: Yes, And that was kind of when we were like,
Speaker 4: we got to get out of here, but I.
Speaker 2: Had to be evacuated. Those towers, they had to be evacuated. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so the camera people's sound people, they all fled the scene.
Speaker 4: When we were making a run for it, we ran
Speaker 4: by these two kids who were probably eight ten years
Speaker 4: old or something, and they had like a baby doll
Speaker 4: they'd rip the head off of and they were they
Speaker 4: just look like they're out of their minds on something kids.
Speaker 4: And I was like, this is this is so bad.
Speaker 4: We've got to get out of here immediately, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, after break stuff, that song's over. The concert promoters
Speaker 2: tried to regain control because they actually made the band
Speaker 2: pause while medical staff could clear out the wounded like
Speaker 2: it was a gladiator pit. Nuts right. Fred Durst does
Speaker 2: his part to kind of calm the anger he's unleashed
Speaker 2: because he sees it right, and the band starts to
Speaker 2: play their other big hit and Nookie, and Fred tells
Speaker 2: the crowd, we already let out all the negative energy.
Speaker 2: It's time to reach down and bring that positive energy.
Speaker 2: This it's time to let yourself go right now. Because
Speaker 2: there are no rules out there. He really just bad at.
Speaker 4: The peace and the love or just shining out of
Speaker 4: that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So at this point he climbs aboard one of the
Speaker 2: plywood panels and tries to CrowdSurf this writhing crowd, and
Speaker 2: the security is like trying to stop him, like Fred,
Speaker 2: and he's like, I gotta be me, man, and he
Speaker 2: just goes out there and crowdsurfing. Right when the band
Speaker 2: finishes their set, police officers approach Fred and they're accompanied
Speaker 2: by the band's manager. They all tell Fred about all
Speaker 2: the damage he's caused. He's nonplus right. In an interview
Speaker 2: after the fact, Fred Durst exculpated himself by saying, I
Speaker 2: didn't see anybody getting hurt. You don't see that when
Speaker 2: you're looking out on a sea of people in the
Speaker 2: stage is twenty feet in there, and you're performing and
Speaker 2: you're feeling your music. How did you expect us to
Speaker 2: see something bad going on the same scene that you've described.
Speaker 2: He claims that he could not do that.
Speaker 4: Well see it, Well, it's just ignorant nihilism.
Speaker 2: I think it's a lie. I think it's a lie.
Speaker 2: So now, months after the concert, Trent Reznor, front man
Speaker 2: for zine Inch Nails. He leveled some criticism at fred
Speaker 2: Durst because a lot of people were like a lot
Speaker 2: of people were blaming him, and so even people who
Speaker 2: were at Woodstock ninety nine they're like, no, it was
Speaker 2: like Jonathan Davis of Corn he blamed fred Durst. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Trent Reznor told Rolling Stone his unvarnished opinion of fred Durst.
Speaker 2: He said, fred Durst can serf a piece of plywood
Speaker 2: up mile. Now. Years later, one of Woodstock ninety nine promoters,
Speaker 2: John Sheer, Yeah, you had this to say fred Durst, who,
Speaker 2: if I haven't said in enough times, is a complete
Speaker 2: a moron. He was completely out of his mind.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So this performance and this all around debacle, this becomes
Speaker 2: like the nadea of Limp Biscuits, like not standing in
Speaker 2: the culture, but like an example of like, this is
Speaker 2: what this band is about. If they spend the rest
Speaker 2: of their careers trying to basically prove that they are
Speaker 2: not this share media is violent.
Speaker 4: They were trying to prove that they were like rebels
Speaker 4: and bad boys, and they didn't have anything lyrically, no,
Speaker 4: that was backing that up.
Speaker 2: No or musically.
Speaker 4: They weren't innovators in that it sounded like basically everything
Speaker 4: else that was doing that, and then so here like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is how I'm going to prove that I'm a
Speaker 4: bad boy, but I don't have the stones to stand
Speaker 4: up for it, you know what I mean. And if
Speaker 4: you're a real like rebel or bad boy, or if
Speaker 4: you were a real contrarian, you'd stop it, stop what
Speaker 4: was happening and like call it out.
Speaker 2: As if you were, as he says, a formerly bullied kid,
Speaker 2: you might be a little more sensitive to I mean.
Speaker 4: You think about when the you know, musicians that I've
Speaker 4: I've read interviews are ones that I've even known when
Speaker 4: they talk about like a crowd going south and the
Speaker 4: choices you have, and like, you know, uh, one of
Speaker 4: the ones that I love is the drop Kick Murphy's
Speaker 4: that when they really started standing up politically in this
Speaker 4: latest you know, Hellscape, they had some fans who were
Speaker 4: opposed to what they were saying. You know, we're right
Speaker 4: leading fans, and rather than ignoring it or stopping it,
Speaker 4: they just confronted it and we're like, we're not going
Speaker 4: to stand for that. We're not going to stand for
Speaker 4: any kind of like fascist symbolism.
Speaker 2: Or that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: You know, you gotta you gotta be brave, and Durst
Speaker 4: is not brave, No.
Speaker 2: Not particularly. He's also kind of doing it, you know,
Speaker 2: essentially for the reaction. It's a very adolescent response. Yes,
Speaker 2: so at this point the music community starts to respond
Speaker 2: to him like you have Like he gets into a
Speaker 2: feud with the band of slip slip Knot. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure if you remember Slipknot. They were the new metal
Speaker 2: band that looked like they'd let a classroom of first
Speaker 2: graders make masks of a bunch of stuff. They brought
Speaker 2: it home from home. Yeah, like, oh those pipe cleaners.
Speaker 4: So the story I can't get with that, but I
Speaker 4: at least have more respect for that kind of experimentation.
Speaker 2: Oh sure, yeah, there's some artistic quality there. Yeah, now
Speaker 2: the story goes. Fred Durst said that Slip Knots fans
Speaker 2: were quote a bunch of fat, ugly kids, which reasonably
Speaker 2: pissed off the front man of Slipknot, This cat named
Speaker 2: Corey Taylor. So the formerly Bullet Good now acting as
Speaker 2: the boy. So Corey Taylor offers a teach bread Durst
Speaker 2: some lessons in civility. In ninety nine, the front man
Speaker 2: of slip Knot went on stage and said, Fred you
Speaker 2: may have a lot of money and being all over
Speaker 2: the world, but when you talk about Slipknot and our fans,
Speaker 2: we will kill you. Who chase there's any mistake about
Speaker 2: his intent. When he was later asked about the band's
Speaker 2: feud with Fred Durst, the frontman of Slipknot, he looked
Speaker 2: at a camera on a different show and as if
Speaker 2: like Free were talking to fred Durst, he screamed, we
Speaker 2: will come there and we will kill you. Oh God.
Speaker 2: So yeah, he was like Florida on Florida Violence right.
Speaker 2: As much fun as it may be to picture it,
Speaker 2: the mass musicians of Slipknot never did beat up fred Durst,
Speaker 2: which brings us to our next fred Durst strangeness. Elizabeth,
Speaker 2: see if you can do this. I wanted to try
Speaker 2: to imagine Fred Durst and Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt
Speaker 2: at the House of Blues in La hanging out together,
Speaker 2: getting high in a back room.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I wanted to do Okay, I
Speaker 4: can do this.
Speaker 2: This place called the the Foundation Room. I've actually been
Speaker 2: in the Foundation Room. It's this upstairs private club inside
Speaker 2: of the House of Blues, and I didn't get there
Speaker 2: because I was specially I got there because my friend
Speaker 2: was a waiter there. My friend's style was a weight
Speaker 2: at the House of Blues and around this same time,
Speaker 2: actually he'd bring me in and the security would let
Speaker 2: me be in these types of secret spaces and because
Speaker 2: I'd hooked them up with weed or whatever, and it
Speaker 2: was like I was go, was dope. I gotta se
Speaker 2: Johnny Cash perform at the House of Baaloesa and yeah,
Speaker 2: and it was like one of his last public shows. Also,
Speaker 2: my boy style once he stole Rosa Park's fork when
Speaker 2: she came in and ate at their weekly Sunday.
Speaker 4: Brun out of her hand.
Speaker 2: No, no, like when she was done, he like poinked
Speaker 2: it and he kept it as a souvenir like I've
Speaker 2: got Rosa Parks for I lived with that at the time.
Speaker 2: We were so proud we put it on like our
Speaker 2: band toll exactly. So anyway, this story is best told
Speaker 2: by Fred Durst as he told it on his own
Speaker 2: short lived podcast, and I quote, I went to the
Speaker 2: premiere of rock Star. I'm friends with Mark Wahlberg and
Speaker 2: he had this movie coming out, so I'd go to
Speaker 2: the premiere. And at the premiere before the movie, I
Speaker 2: met Jennifer Aniston and somehow ended up telling her I
Speaker 2: was a fan of her husband, Brad Pitt. I think
Speaker 2: it was her husband boyfriend something like that. But she says,
Speaker 2: no way, he's a fan of you and your band.
Speaker 2: You got to meet him, and I said that would
Speaker 2: be awesome. So she says, after the movie, mean set
Speaker 2: the House of Blues at the Foundation Room. We're having
Speaker 2: a private little party. I was like, dope, So there's
Speaker 2: the setup, right, didn't happen? My husband and I saw
Speaker 2: you from across the bar.
Speaker 4: Always a huge fan of yours. Here meet us at
Speaker 4: this fun party.
Speaker 2: So Fred Durst. He goes back to Fred and I quote.
Speaker 2: So after the movie, I drove over to the House
Speaker 2: of Blues on sunset and I was kind of late,
Speaker 2: and I went up to the Foundation Room and it
Speaker 2: was empty. Just the bartender was there, and I sat
Speaker 2: there for a little while. I had a couple of
Speaker 2: drinks and I was like, damn, man, they really pulled
Speaker 2: one on me there. So he thinks he's been stood
Speaker 2: up by Chen and Brad. Brad and Jen. As much
Speaker 2: fun as it is to think that they actually punked
Speaker 2: Fred Durst. It turns out he wasn't getting punked. He
Speaker 2: just didn't know that there was a secret room inside
Speaker 2: the private club. Because the House of Blues is supposed
Speaker 2: to be like the speakeasy, like an so it's got
Speaker 2: all these like secret rooms in private clubs. So back
Speaker 2: to Fred Durst and I quote then the secret door
Speaker 2: open and a bouncer or a bodyguard or somebody said
Speaker 2: are you Fred? And I was like yeah, and he's like,
Speaker 2: they're waiting for you in here. So I went in
Speaker 2: this private, little hidden room, and of course it was
Speaker 2: the after party, very small, really intimate. There was Jennifer
Speaker 2: Aniston and Brad Pitt and some other people, and I
Speaker 2: said hello. We were like hanging and laughing and having
Speaker 2: a really cool time. He couldn't have been cooler and
Speaker 2: she couldn't have been cooler. It was very very special
Speaker 2: for me. So at this point though, it goes more
Speaker 2: full on Fred Durst and he finds a way to
Speaker 2: ruin the moment. Yes, back to Fred And next thing
Speaker 2: you know, somebody's passing around to joint and I don't
Speaker 2: smoke weed, but I'm a little buzz and I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, I'll just go at the flow here and
Speaker 2: take a little puff. And I guess I took more
Speaker 2: than a little puff. I guess because I was out
Speaker 2: of my mind all of a sudden, like whoa. And
Speaker 2: all I remember was that after that feel like making
Speaker 2: Love from Bad Company was playing super loud, and me
Speaker 2: having Brad and Jennifer and like a headlock. Jennifer's on
Speaker 2: my left, Brad's on my right. My arms are around
Speaker 2: their heads and jumping up and down, screaming the song
Speaker 2: at the top of my lungs. Sure if they were
Speaker 2: singing with me or enjoying it, but I do remember
Speaker 2: that I was like, whoa. I was so embarrassed. It's
Speaker 2: this story is wasn't cursed enough. Later on, Fred went
Speaker 2: to the set of Mister and Missus Smith What the
Speaker 2: movie where that Brad made with Angelina Joel had destroyed
Speaker 2: his marriage with Jennifer Aniston, and Fred apologizes to Brad
Speaker 2: for being a douchebag. With Brad and Jen back of
Speaker 2: the House of Booze. So apparently, unlike me, who would
Speaker 2: have told him he's the reason why I got divorced
Speaker 2: from Jen. Apparently Brad was chill about it. Fred says
Speaker 2: that that he this is what he said to Brad quote.
Speaker 2: I said, hey, I just really want to apologize for
Speaker 2: this moment back in the day at the House of Blues,
Speaker 2: and he was like, no way, bro, that was awesome.
Speaker 2: You were killer. We had so much fun. And I
Speaker 2: was like, no, I'm really sorry. I wasn't myself. I'm
Speaker 2: sorry I acted that way. So he has Brad Pitt
Speaker 2: tell him multiple times how cool he is. He threw
Speaker 2: other people, never himself.
Speaker 4: Happened. He wound up going to this after party. He
Speaker 4: sees them, he puts him in the headlock while screaming.
Speaker 4: Then he somehow I don't even know if he actually
Speaker 4: went to the set of the movie, like, no one's
Speaker 4: gonna ask Brad Pitt, can you verify it?
Speaker 2: Can you verify this? Durst?
Speaker 4: So yeah, I went there and he was all, no, bro,
Speaker 4: you're like my favorite. I loved it. Like, let's say
Speaker 4: he did wind up on the film set. Annie went
Speaker 4: up and apologized. I would put money on Brad Pitt
Speaker 4: having absolutely no idea what he's talking about or who
Speaker 4: he is, and being like, you know, it's cool, man,
Speaker 4: you were great.
Speaker 2: Totally, totally cool bro.
Speaker 4: I gotta get going, but you know, oh liar.
Speaker 2: So this brings us to Fred durst feud with Scott Stapp,
Speaker 2: the lead singer of Creed.
Speaker 4: Oh man, the hits just keep coming.
Speaker 2: Totally right, like I hammered to the head. June of
Speaker 2: two thousand, during the era of huge summer concerts. I
Speaker 2: guess Limpbiscuit was invited to join like Ozzie and the
Speaker 2: Deaf Tones and Godsmack at something called Dysfunctional Family Picnic,
Speaker 2: New York, right, and another band on the bill was Creed,
Speaker 2: which just makes for a very weird show. Absolutely Anyway,
Speaker 2: when limp Biscuits on stage after showing up an hour late,
Speaker 2: Fred Durst leans into the mic and tells the crowd,
Speaker 2: I want to dedicate this next song to the lead
Speaker 2: singer of Creed, and the song was their hit break Stuff,
Speaker 2: which everybody knew had the good connotations to Woodstock. Mattis right.
Speaker 2: So before the band starts into the song, Fred goes
Speaker 2: on to say that guy's an ego maniac, he's a
Speaker 2: punk and he's backstage right now, acted like Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2: So when Creed he says this on on stage before
Speaker 2: he plays the song. Dedicated to the guy he's running
Speaker 2: down Classic, which obviously he did not mean. But when
Speaker 2: Creed Lynn later takes the stage Scott's stab, he doesn't
Speaker 2: run down Fred Durst, which would have been, you know,
Speaker 2: really easy to do. Instead, he just says it takes
Speaker 2: a lot more guts to say something to somebody than
Speaker 2: behind their backs. So he man's up on him. So
Speaker 2: this isn't the end of it because Fred isn't done.
Speaker 2: Later on Fred's on MTV's TRL aka Total Request Live
Speaker 2: and he addresses his new feud with frontman of Creed.
Speaker 2: Fred says to MTV, for one thing, the guy's out
Speaker 2: of his mind. The guy thinks he's better human than everybody.
Speaker 2: You walk by his dressing room and his people look
Speaker 2: at you and go. You do not approach the band,
Speaker 2: You do not talk to the band, You do not
Speaker 2: look at the band. Now. I don't know if he
Speaker 2: was jealous of their popularity without having to be Dix
Speaker 2: to everyone all the time, or it just remind him
Speaker 2: of people who bullied him back in high school, or
Speaker 2: like being excluded. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, I think if Jimmy Creed
Speaker 4: was his.
Speaker 2: Name, he was the singer Scott's Day.
Speaker 4: If I'm him and I go out on stage after
Speaker 4: having fred Durst run his little mouth, you don't say anything.
Speaker 4: And then if someone says, oh, why didn't you respond like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I wasn't listening when they were out on stage.
Speaker 2: I don't listen to I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I don't know anything about that, but it gets what
Speaker 4: I to your question. I do wonder was fred Durst
Speaker 4: always the bully not the bullied? No, I think it's
Speaker 4: this is like perpetual bully behavior, though I don't think.
Speaker 2: He understands the limits of it. A bully like how
Speaker 2: to be a tolerated.
Speaker 4: Why pick on the dufices.
Speaker 2: And creed it's you kind of called him. The late
Speaker 2: nineties had a lot of agro. This is like, you know,
Speaker 2: an era of like hyper masculinity, but done is like
Speaker 2: I'm a dick. You see that I got in your face? Right?
Speaker 2: So it's really like it's the most toxic of he
Speaker 2: expressed it the most fully, and he was getting a
Speaker 2: lot of money and prestige for it. So he's just
Speaker 2: gonna go bigger and bigger until the balloon pops.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's what happened with people I know who
Speaker 4: had run ins with him. Is he wanted to start
Speaker 4: fights and there's who are you? I don't even know?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well the balloon keeps inflating. He's trying to
Speaker 2: start fights. You know. Creed invited him to fight, like
Speaker 2: actually like a boxing match for charity, and then Fred
Speaker 2: he did not show up.
Speaker 4: He was like, yeah, wait, so he starts all that
Speaker 4: and doesn't show up.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm on tourcals, I can't do that now.
Speaker 2: A few summers later, Fred Durst is back in the
Speaker 2: news after he makes this spectacle at another summer concert,
Speaker 2: the Summer Sanitarium to headlined by Metallica. Knowing that Olympisco
Speaker 2: would be one of the acts of the summer concert.
Speaker 2: This local radio DJA he urged all his listeners in
Speaker 2: the Chicago Land area to let Fred Durst just hear it,
Speaker 2: mock him to his face, hackle him, throw stuff at
Speaker 2: him ways on stage for days and days, possibly weeks.
Speaker 2: He's telling his listeners just do not give this guy
Speaker 2: a nice welcome to Chicago.
Speaker 4: They're giving him exactly what he wants. What he wants
Speaker 4: the attention. That's what all of this is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this two thousand and three, that the era is
Speaker 2: starting to change. Right Limp Biscuit. They take the stage
Speaker 2: in Chicago, the crowd starts chanting Fred Durst, Fred Durst,
Speaker 2: over and over again. Right that does the trick. Is
Speaker 2: twenty minutes into the set, fred Durst throws down his
Speaker 2: mic and he flees the stage in anger. He just
Speaker 2: ran yeah. According to MTV dot COM's account, he continued
Speaker 2: his profanity lace tirade from off stage with shouts about
Speaker 2: how the band would be back and boasts that we
Speaker 2: are the greatest band in the world. The abbreviated performance
Speaker 2: caused a ninety minute delay between lymp Biscuit and headliners Metallic.
Speaker 2: So he pisses off everybody all the way around. Oh
Speaker 2: my god. Now I found someone who was at the
Speaker 2: show who allegedly at least they wrote a review on
Speaker 2: a fan site, and I quote, I always knew Fred
Speaker 2: had an ego problem. At the concert in Chicago, he
Speaker 2: had totally lost it. When he came out, the fans
Speaker 2: were booing him and whipping like the three dollars water
Speaker 2: bottles and six dollars lemonade bottles at him. He got
Speaker 2: really pissed off, called them, then started calling everyone from Chicago.
Speaker 2: He was telling everyone they could. So this is like
Speaker 2: his approach to being like the star. There's mark because
Speaker 2: the same fan ended their review with a choice quote
Speaker 2: one last thing. In between songs, he went and got
Speaker 2: a shotgun and was firing it into the air. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that they were real bullets. I was
Speaker 2: wondering if he shot it at other concerts too. On
Speaker 2: the other hand, Lincoln Park and Metallica rock. So there's
Speaker 2: that now. There was also around the same time the
Speaker 2: Fred Durst in two thousand and five. Two years later,
Speaker 2: was back in the news after a sex tape he
Speaker 2: made was online. In my list of things I'd never
Speaker 2: ever ever want to see, I think fred Durst's sex
Speaker 2: tape is definitely high on that list. But I guess
Speaker 2: the folks did want to see it, and so it
Speaker 2: showed up on ten different websites. So what is fred
Speaker 2: Durst do? He sues them now. According to Billboard, the lawsuit,
Speaker 2: filed in Los Angeles federal court last week, seeks more
Speaker 2: than seventy million dollars in damages and any profits the
Speaker 2: site operators reaped in recent weeks when the three minute
Speaker 2: clip of Durst and a former girlfriend began appearing on
Speaker 2: the internet, So I don't know which part is funnier
Speaker 2: to me though the fact he sued for seventy million
Speaker 2: dollars for the fact that his sex tape was three
Speaker 2: minutes long. Now, according to Billboard and the complaint, Durst
Speaker 2: contends the two thousand and three video was never meant
Speaker 2: for public viewing. It was stored in Durst's home computer,
Speaker 2: but hackers managed to break in remotely and make a copy.
Speaker 2: According to the lawsuit, hackers, I was hacked. Do you
Speaker 2: believe this? No, not at all.
Speaker 4: Attention boy, he wanted attention.
Speaker 2: When news broke of the sex tape. Gocker rep Gocker.
Speaker 2: They published a video from the sex tape that showed
Speaker 2: Fred Durst and a full on shot of his little
Speaker 2: Fred Durst, and the post was removed. But then hours
Speaker 2: even they were like, this is too much, too far.
Speaker 2: We may be gawker, but this is crossing a line.
Speaker 2: So the damage is done though, so fred Durst lawyers
Speaker 2: they joined the ranks of folks who were suing Gawker.
Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, I guess when Fred Durst here's about this,
Speaker 2: he reverses his lawyer's action and he according to Gawker. Quote.
Speaker 2: Durst sent Gawker flowers and a note that explained he
Speaker 2: quote never wanted the suit to include you guys.
Speaker 4: He's like, I want more attention.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't find the verdict on the lawsuit against
Speaker 2: the ten websites. Yeah, but I have to assume they
Speaker 2: settled out of court. All Gay, you know what time
Speaker 2: it is. It's time to take another little break after
Speaker 2: these messages. I'll tell you one of my favorite stories
Speaker 2: about Fred and his legal troubles. No Rebacca, Elizabeth.
Speaker 4: Yes we are.
Speaker 2: Are you ready to hear my absolute favorite Fred Durst
Speaker 2: and Limp Biscuit story? Sure? Good good. In the biography
Speaker 2: Eruption in the Canyon two hundred and twelve Days and
Speaker 2: Nights with the Genius of Eddie van Halen, the books
Speaker 2: author Andrew Bennett, he recounts this gem of a story
Speaker 2: where Eddie Van Halen goes over to Limp Biscuit's rented
Speaker 2: mansion and like Beverly Hills to like jam out with
Speaker 2: Fred Durst after the guitarist Wes Borland had quit the
Speaker 2: band once again. Okay, he does this often. He quit,
Speaker 2: comes back, comes back anyway, I guess Fred Durst wanted
Speaker 2: to give Andy van Halen an audition to replace stock
Speaker 2: Wes Borland on guitar stop. Can you imagine being Eddie
Speaker 2: van Halen and hearing Limp Biscuit wants to give you
Speaker 2: a tryout to join the Why even.
Speaker 4: Go over there? Was? He just like morbid curiosity?
Speaker 2: He does it? I don't know. He goes to Beverly
Speaker 2: Hill's house, he jams out with Fred Durst and trust
Speaker 2: Fred was well aware of the irony of all this.
Speaker 2: He told the author with this guy Bennett, that would
Speaker 2: be absolutely hilarious if quote, the greatest guitar player ever
Speaker 2: plays with the worst band ever. He's not switches a bit.
Speaker 2: Remember before they were the greatest band.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So anyway, the author Bennett added his take, saying that
Speaker 2: the jam session with Eddie Van Halen must have quote
Speaker 2: been like a scholar amongst kindergarteners. So can you imagine
Speaker 2: how that jam session must have played out in real life? No,
Speaker 2: because I got three words for you. Close your eyes,
Speaker 2: my eyes. I want you to picture it. It's midday
Speaker 2: and Beverly Hills and you are passed out on a
Speaker 2: couch and the rented mansion of Limp biscuit. You spent
Speaker 2: the last few days here because you are a limp
Speaker 2: biscuit groupie can generally make terrible decisions with your life. Anyway.
Speaker 2: You're violently awoken when you hear the band start jamming.
Speaker 2: But there's this one sound that doesn't mesh with all
Speaker 2: the other noise you hear coming from down the hallway.
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful guitar fighting against the heavy, chunky, new
Speaker 2: metal sound. You know to be nim biscuit. You get
Speaker 2: up from the couch and pad down the hallway to
Speaker 2: see what's making this beautiful sound against the racket you
Speaker 2: know and love. The end of the hallway is a
Speaker 2: converted garage. It's been turned into a home studio. When
Speaker 2: you open the door, you see the source of that
Speaker 2: beautiful noise. Is that, yes, it is. It's Eddie van
Speaker 2: Halen of the band Van Halen. He's playing his iconic
Speaker 2: red guitar with all the white and black ribbon mines
Speaker 2: all over it, and he seems to be enjoying himself.
Speaker 2: As Fred Durst freestyles on the mic, how crazy you
Speaker 2: think to yourself? You take a seat on a couch
Speaker 2: in the home studio. Soon enough, the band stops playing
Speaker 2: to take a break. They join you on the couches.
Speaker 2: This whole moment is surreal. Fred Durst ask you for
Speaker 2: a lighter. You scrounge one from your jean's pocket and
Speaker 2: hand it over. He lights a join and starts to smoke.
Speaker 2: But there's soon a problem when Eddie van Halen comes over.
Speaker 2: He says he's in recovery. He doesn't like to be
Speaker 2: around drugs. The band thinks he's kidding. He is not
Speaker 2: soon enough. Eddie van Halen cusses up a storm, then
Speaker 2: storms out of the jam space, slamming the studio door
Speaker 2: behind him. You think that's kind of weird. The next day, Elizabeth,
Speaker 2: you're again asleep on a couch and the rented mansion
Speaker 2: of Lynbiscuit. You hear a phone ring and ring. No
Speaker 2: one is answering it, so you do. If the other
Speaker 2: end is Eddie van Halen, and he is still pissed.
Speaker 2: He shouts about how he wants to come get his
Speaker 2: guitars and his amps from next studio space. You tell
Speaker 2: him your gift, Fred the message. You hang up the
Speaker 2: phone and you go back to bed on the couch,
Speaker 2: and you probably forget all about the call. The next day,
Speaker 2: you get again, wake up on the couch in the
Speaker 2: same rented mansion of Lynbiscuit. You hear people shouting about something.
Speaker 2: Don't they know you're trying to sleep. Clearly they don't know,
Speaker 2: or they don't care because they have more pressing matters.
Speaker 2: Eddie van Halen is outside and he's driving up to
Speaker 2: the mansion in a military assault vehicle, one that looks
Speaker 2: like he bought it directly from the US Army. He
Speaker 2: pulls up to the house, drives up onto the lawn.
Speaker 2: This thing is a beast. It has a gun mount
Speaker 2: with a machine gun. Clearly, Eddie van Halen means business.
Speaker 2: You go to the window and watch Eddie van Halen
Speaker 2: hops out of his military assault vehicle, which he leaves
Speaker 2: running on the lawn in case he needs like make
Speaker 2: a speedy exit. Eddie van Halen huffs it puffs as
Speaker 2: he walks up to the front door. He's not wearing
Speaker 2: a shirt. His jeans have no belt. Instead, he has
Speaker 2: a rope where a belt should be. He's wearing combat
Speaker 2: boots fastened together with duct tape, and his hair is
Speaker 2: piled atop his head like a Samurai top knot. He
Speaker 2: looks a mess. Oh, and he also has a gun
Speaker 2: in his hand. You see Fred Durst go to the
Speaker 2: door and open it to greet Eddie van Halen. When
Speaker 2: the front door swings open, Eddie van Halen lifts his
Speaker 2: gun and he aims it right at Fred Durst's red
Speaker 2: hat and he barks at Fred, where's my Fred looks
Speaker 2: at you and says, tell Peter to go get Eddie
Speaker 2: van Halen. You don't know who Peter is, so you
Speaker 2: just shake your head. Fred calls out, Peter, get Eddie
Speaker 2: van Halen's guitars and ams from the studio and bring
Speaker 2: them out here. Satisfied, eddievan Halen lowers the gun, but
Speaker 2: just so he can light a cigarette. Once he screws
Speaker 2: that litzig into his waiting face, he raises the gun
Speaker 2: and points it again at Fred Durst. The two men
Speaker 2: stand out front in the Beverly Hills mansion in the
Speaker 2: middle of the day as they wait for Eddie van
Speaker 2: Halen's music gear to be delivered out to them. The
Speaker 2: assault vehicle idols in the background. Neither man talks. Once
Speaker 2: the assistant guitar tech Peter comes out with the stuff.
Speaker 2: You watch as Eddie van Halen personally calls it to
Speaker 2: his waiting assault vehicle. No one helps her load it.
Speaker 2: Once he has all his stuff, Eddie van Halen tucks
Speaker 2: his gun into his jeans with the rope belt, climbs
Speaker 2: into his military assault vehicle with the machine gun mount,
Speaker 2: and he drives away. Is that not the best?
Speaker 4: His outfit is amazed? This just sounds so rad his
Speaker 4: hair all up top. Was Valerie Burton Ellie like at
Speaker 4: the catbird seat shooting the gun.
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, she's in the driver's seat, she's waiting.
Speaker 2: Then she positioned, repositioned in the the mount, she's aiming
Speaker 2: the gun. Sixty col. So now, I'm sorry to make
Speaker 2: you a groupie for lymp Biscuits, but I wanted you
Speaker 2: to have a front roast scene, low point in their lives.
Speaker 2: So that one's wild, right, Yeah, I've got a couple more.
Speaker 2: This next one is another one of my favorite fred
Speaker 2: Durst stories. Did you know that in twenty fifteen Fred
Speaker 2: Durst was banned from Ukraine?
Speaker 4: Band from Ukraine?
Speaker 2: Why was fred Durst banned from Ukraine? But that's not all, Elizabeth.
Speaker 2: There's a related question. Why was Limp Biscuit and fred
Speaker 2: Durst banned from Estonia in twenty twenty five. What great questions, Elizabeth.
Speaker 2: I know it all comes down to something Fred did
Speaker 2: back in twenty fifteen. You see, Fred Durst decided to
Speaker 2: wade into international relations and share his feelings about Russia
Speaker 2: violently annexing Crimea from Ukraine. So the recent news hook
Speaker 2: is that in November of last year, twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: the show promoter, Baltic Live Agency, canceled a Limp Biscuit
Speaker 2: show scheduled for May of this year in Talline, Estonia.
Speaker 2: According to the Estonian news agency er R, the promoter
Speaker 2: put out this press release stating that quote, we inform
Speaker 2: you that, due to circumstances beyond the organizer's control, the
Speaker 2: Limp Biscuit concert plan for May thirty first, twenty two,
Speaker 2: twenty six is canceled. Our apologies exclamation point.
Speaker 4: They're all on their knees, all across Estonian bruising. Wait,
Speaker 4: what is it? What does it have to do with Ukraine?
Speaker 2: I'm going to tie it all together for you. So
Speaker 2: that same Estonian news site they clarified that it wasn't
Speaker 2: due to the fact that it wasn't two thousand and
Speaker 2: two anymore, and there was no demand for tickets, but
Speaker 2: rather that the canceled show stemmed from Fred Durst holding
Speaker 2: up a sign back in twenty fifteen that read quote
Speaker 2: Crimea equals Russia. Now this was one year after it
Speaker 2: was Russia annex Crimea from Ukraine? Like not like before
Speaker 2: one year?
Speaker 4: Was it like standing with the people of Ukraine.
Speaker 2: No, he was standing with the Russians. Oh, Fred, No, Elizabeth,
Speaker 2: you may be wondering, why would Jacksonville, Florida is fine
Speaker 2: as Fred Durst have strong opinions about international relations in
Speaker 2: Russia's seizure of crime questions doesn't normally expressed political sentiments
Speaker 2: about the USA. No, Well, from the articles I read,
Speaker 2: the credit for Fred's political awakening dates back to his
Speaker 2: marriage to his third wife, Russian makeup artist Kenitsia Brerozina.
Speaker 2: So you see, back in twenty fifteen, the same year
Speaker 2: he held up that sign Crimea equals Russia, he also
Speaker 2: publicly expressed his interest in buying a home in Crimea.
Speaker 2: Not only that, he also publicly expressed his interest in
Speaker 2: getting into the Crimean film and TV industry and making
Speaker 2: movies over there. According to Billboard Magazine, which cited this
Speaker 2: Russian newspaper that reported that Fred quote said, sent a
Speaker 2: leather Crimean authorities in which he said that he was
Speaker 2: interested in spending half of the year in the region
Speaker 2: producing films and TV series that would take Russia to
Speaker 2: a new level in the industry, also working for a
Speaker 2: great future of Crimea and Russia.
Speaker 4: No I just.
Speaker 2: Once spread durs wants to get his foot in the
Speaker 2: door in the Russian film. He also reportedly told the
Speaker 2: same thing to Spotneck International, another Russian news outlet. He
Speaker 2: added that he was hopefully he could get a Russian
Speaker 2: passport and to sway the Russians in his favor. Fred
Speaker 2: apparently wrote a letter to Crimean officials in which he
Speaker 2: lauds Vladimir Putin and referred to him as quote a
Speaker 2: great guy with clear moral principles and a nice person.
Speaker 4: Did he land an ambassadorship this time around?
Speaker 2: No, I mean Jordan cabinet position. W Bush said he
Speaker 2: saw his soul, and he saw his soul or the
Speaker 2: soul of Vladimir Putin in his eyes, right, And so
Speaker 2: I think he's trying to piggyback off that kind of leg.
Speaker 2: But he's just like fifteen years late on this, or
Speaker 2: you know, I guess fourteen yeah, so between the sign
Speaker 2: he held up his comments on Vladimir Putin's fining qualities
Speaker 2: as a human being. The Nation of Ukraine banded Fred
Speaker 2: Durst and Limp Biscuit their music Yeah Right Buddy, which
Speaker 2: brings us to the canceled twenty twenty six show in Estonia.
Speaker 2: After Fred's comments about Putin being a nice guy resurfaced online,
Speaker 2: the Estonian Ministry of Foreign Affairs publicly noted supporters of
Speaker 2: Putin and his invasion of Ukraine were not welcome in Estonia. Nice.
Speaker 2: But that's not all because for those who still followed
Speaker 2: Limp biscuits musical output, there was also a music video
Speaker 2: that muddied the waters as well, because in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: Olympis Get put out a music video for their new
Speaker 2: song out of Style just says it all. I assume
Speaker 2: it's a commentary in the fact that over the years
Speaker 2: the band has refused to change in style or sound. Sure, anyway,
Speaker 2: I watched the music video because I know you wouldn't
Speaker 2: the first Woo girl, it is something. The video features
Speaker 2: the reunited band like Westborland is back.
Speaker 4: At the bed, Yeah, Eddie van Halen's Hole.
Speaker 2: They're performing in a suburban garage just starting all over again, right,
Speaker 2: like the garage.
Speaker 4: Jars men, Yes, grown men who have to get prostate exams. Yes,
Speaker 4: grown men with sciatica.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like fifty two to fifty three years old
Speaker 2: at this point. But the band they don't look like themselves, right,
Speaker 2: because I think they know that they look like people
Speaker 2: who have sciatica and need prostating SAMs. So instead they
Speaker 2: have deep faked faces, right, they have like fake faces
Speaker 2: like the computer enhanced ye every.
Speaker 4: Place, the reverse aging like from the Irishman.
Speaker 2: The fred Durst has made it look like Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 4: No no, no no, it's.
Speaker 2: Still wearing his trademark red hat, so it's Putin wearing
Speaker 2: fred Durst like red hat. Quite the look. Then there's
Speaker 2: the guitarist West Borland. He's deep fake to look like
Speaker 2: Joe Biden and he even like falls off a kid's bike,
Speaker 2: which to make fun of the fact Joe Biden fell
Speaker 2: off a bike at the time. Then there's the turntables
Speaker 2: DJ Lethal who looks like Vollitimayer Zelensky right, and the
Speaker 2: drummer he's made to look like Jijinping, which I don't
Speaker 2: even want to get into the whole implication to that
Speaker 2: it's all in hinge, right, it's not kind of un
Speaker 2: it it's all unhinged now, Elizabeth, let me tell you.
Speaker 2: Seeing Vladimir Putin and Fred's distinctive red hat while he's
Speaker 2: air scratching the turntables inside the suburban garage is just
Speaker 2: a wild image to content. I'm good. There's also the
Speaker 2: shot of Vladimir Putin's aka Fred holding up a beer
Speaker 2: bong in the garage while Joe Biden aka Wes Borland
Speaker 2: and DJ lethal Is Zolensky and the drummer Zijongping. I'll
Speaker 2: cheer him on to drink it. Another wild moment in
Speaker 2: my life to consider.
Speaker 4: It's really incisive political commentary that.
Speaker 2: He gets clear, you get the message. This is up
Speaker 2: there with like Genesis and yeah, yeah, but I haven't
Speaker 2: gotten to the lyrics of the song.
Speaker 4: They are cool.
Speaker 2: Sorry. Expecting Time is a production of Fred sings I've
Speaker 2: been asking for something, asking for something. Well, I'm asking
Speaker 2: for nothing. Ask him for nothing. When's it gonna change?
Speaker 2: Hurts me in a loving kind of way. I'm gonna celebrate. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And then he goes on to wrap It's time to
Speaker 2: rock this because I'm always out of style. Never changed
Speaker 2: my style because my style is kind of fresh. You
Speaker 2: asking for a sound check check one two? You barely
Speaker 2: touch the ground. Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 4: That's not enough for political insight.
Speaker 2: Totally looks and goes, I wish I had that talent.
Speaker 2: Now I have one more fun fact about that music.
Speaker 2: It was made in twenty two twenty three, which was
Speaker 2: five years after Fred divorced his Russian makeup artist w
Speaker 2: Didncia Bitterzino. They split back in twenty eighteen, so we
Speaker 2: can't blame his wife for his pro putin content. And
Speaker 2: I've really never liked to do like blame the wife
Speaker 2: or blame a woman for what a man does. But
Speaker 2: point of fact, it was Fred all along. So which
Speaker 2: brings us to my last Fred Nurse tuita another personal
Speaker 2: favor because it evolves the band Insane Clown Posse.
Speaker 4: Are You kidding?
Speaker 2: Aka? The other Wheeze?
Speaker 4: Are there Furries? Can we just can we go all in?
Speaker 2: So the story goes back in twenty eighteen when Limp
Speaker 2: Biscuit was performing in Camden, New Jersey at the Rock
Speaker 2: Allegiance Festival. Their co headliners were The Insane Clown Posse
Speaker 2: featuring rappers Violent Jay and Shaggy two Dope. So they
Speaker 2: were backstage while Limp Biscuit was on stage doing their set.
Speaker 2: The bands are running through their cover of George Michael's
Speaker 2: song Faith m you know, the scream singing affair, and
Speaker 2: I guess Shaggy Too Dope had the same kind of
Speaker 2: reaction you have and it just said had enough? So
Speaker 2: what does he do? Question? Listen. Yes, Shaggy Too Dope
Speaker 2: rocks up the nerve to go out on stage mid
Speaker 2: set and he attempts to do a flying kung fu
Speaker 2: kick at Fred Durst.
Speaker 4: He just couldn't take it anymore.
Speaker 2: No, he's like, I gotta kick him off the stage. Yes,
Speaker 2: I say attempt because his take off with not Queen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could imagine this estimation.
Speaker 2: Of his kung fu skill was overblown, his desire far
Speaker 2: away his skill. What must have been a great idea
Speaker 2: when his brain came up, when it turned into a
Speaker 2: pathetic attemp in his body execut.
Speaker 4: It's like when children are like, watch this and in
Speaker 4: their mind they're gonna like fly through the air. They're
Speaker 4: gonna be like some sort of anime figures.
Speaker 2: So you know, and then it's just Shaggy too dope.
Speaker 2: Gravity disagrees, another victim of gravity. So Fred is on
Speaker 2: the mic, singing with Shaggy two Dope emergents fight his stage.
Speaker 2: He sort of half runs out on stage, leaves into
Speaker 2: the air sideways to perform his flying kick, and then
Speaker 2: gravity humbles him. He slams at the stage before making
Speaker 2: contact with Fred Durst. So, as music outlet Metal Sucks reported,
Speaker 2: oh and I quote. What's not presently clear is whether
Speaker 2: or not mister two dope sincerely intended to hurt mister Durst.
Speaker 2: One concertgoer, noting that the two have collaborated before, says
Speaker 2: that Durst quote shouted out ICP earlier in the set,
Speaker 2: and two dopes body language is throwing horns, running blacks
Speaker 2: of days, et cetera, does not suggest any earnest aggression.
Speaker 4: So what if I'm him and I meant to kick
Speaker 4: him right in the head and lop his noggin off
Speaker 4: and have it rolled across the stace. I missed two
Speaker 4: three feet, I'd like I meant to do that.
Speaker 2: I was just play acting, man, me, I'm crazy. How
Speaker 2: funny is that insane clown? Posse? So, after his flying
Speaker 2: kick fails. Fred Durst dressed in a by the way
Speaker 2: Bo Jackson raiders Jersey and a wide brand Wow, dare
Speaker 2: you gamo hunting hat? And I don't know dirt bike gloves,
Speaker 2: He proudly says to the crowd. What he couldn't even
Speaker 2: pull it off. And at this point security team drags
Speaker 2: Shaggy Too Dope off stage. I couldn't find any reports
Speaker 2: of any criminal charges filed against mister two dope. And
Speaker 2: after that, Elizabeth is where we will leave it.
Speaker 4: He should then Bo Jackson should have come out on
Speaker 4: the stage and just ended him.
Speaker 2: So what's ridiculous Jackson Jersey?
Speaker 4: Mmm? You know, I thought we were friends, but you.
Speaker 2: Do all these mashups at me. So I had to
Speaker 2: Fred Durst at you.
Speaker 4: I think I think I will call it even though,
Speaker 4: So what's yours takeaway?
Speaker 2: I was surprised when I was doing this research that
Speaker 2: he hasn't spent much time behind bars or had very
Speaker 2: serious charges. It's mostly him doing adolescent antics in an
Speaker 2: embarrassing way and then running off to the next place
Speaker 2: he can get attention and then doing it again, wash
Speaker 2: rants repeat. I was just like, you know, and like
Speaker 2: I'm pulling for the guy. Honestly, Like, I'm like reading
Speaker 2: these stories, I'm like, I want you to overcome your
Speaker 2: fred durstness, kill the monster that you created fred Durst.
Speaker 2: And he just refuses.
Speaker 4: Can I just keep waiting for him to pop off
Speaker 4: to the wrong person.
Speaker 2: I think he's done a good job of picking people
Speaker 2: who cannot find his home address, or if they are,
Speaker 2: and they show up with just the most insane stuff
Speaker 2: and just out.
Speaker 4: Crazy, like you know the Creed dude, Jimmy Creed. He's like, oh,
Speaker 4: you want to fight, well, let's do this for charity
Speaker 4: and we'll wear boxing gloves. Yeah, he's not going to
Speaker 4: go out and actually do it.
Speaker 2: No, he's not going to like lace up gloves and
Speaker 2: swing those things. Tell you in the mood for a talkback,
Speaker 2: believe I figure you need it desperately. Oh God, I want.
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Speaker 4: Candle Light Banana ripening is so I want to know
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Speaker 2: Everyone's like, yes, we get a lot of candles.
Speaker 4: And then they find out you just put them in
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Speaker 2: What what now? No? I like, we got all these candles.
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