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Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Dutton Zaren Burnett. So good to see how you see?

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Speaker 2: I'm good good. Another question for you while you're on

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Speaker 2: a roll, m H, do you know it's ridiculous? I

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Speaker 2: do I know it's ridiculous? Do you do? You really?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 4: The start of the year always brings a wave of

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Speaker 4: fitness pressure. Don't you think fitness pressure.

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Speaker 2: I can recognize from the town.

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Speaker 4: But for Natural Light fans, the real frustration isn't the

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Speaker 4: gym crowd. I mean, what would do you think would

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Speaker 4: be most frustrating for fans of the beard, natural Light.

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Speaker 2: Beer, God full employment.

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Speaker 4: It's not fitness pressure, is that they are months from

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Speaker 4: mowing season. The grass is dormant, the mower is collecting dust,

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Speaker 4: and those who swear by a good backyard cutter left

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Speaker 4: pacing on rubber treadmills, wondering why no one has invented

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Speaker 4: a better option. They really they do, because you know,

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Speaker 4: here's the thing, like, if you want to talk stereotypes,

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Speaker 4: you got the natty light drinker mowing a lawn.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, Uh, they really don't know their market.

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Speaker 4: No, they don't. What they've done in.

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Speaker 2: Order to I've never met a Natural Light drinker who

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Speaker 2: gave a wink about their lawn.

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Speaker 4: Oh see, you didn't live down south.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, I'm including that part. There is definitely that.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying I haven't met them. You have you

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Speaker 2: just you know.

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Speaker 4: You got your John D.

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Speaker 2: Rad Moor, Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 4: Or the zero turning radius where you're like, this is

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Speaker 4: a circle around, you get a couple of natty lights

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Speaker 4: in you you go do that lawn.

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Speaker 2: See, I'd like to believe that they drink better beer

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Speaker 2: than that. I know in a bunch of them.

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Speaker 4: They don't.

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Speaker 2: They don't, Okay, they don't.

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Speaker 4: And you put it in a koozie. Yeah, son, listen, listen,

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Speaker 4: bo you've got to put it into koozy or anyway. So, uh,

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Speaker 4: they've developed something. Natural Light Beer is revealing a first

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Speaker 4: of its kind ter treadmill that was engineered to simulate

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Speaker 4: the simple joy of mowing the lawn. It's called the treadmower,

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Speaker 4: and so it's as the favorite beer brand of grass

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Speaker 4: whisperers and garage enthusiasts. It's traditioned for Natural Light fans

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Speaker 4: to crack a well earned natty after mowing those beautiful

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Speaker 4: green stripes into their lawn with the treadmower. Natural light

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Speaker 4: is uniting fans around their favorite pastime, even as the

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Speaker 4: temperatures drop, since it's always summer in the garage, not

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Speaker 4: my garage. My garage is freezing anyway. Kristin Stowe, who's

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Speaker 4: head of marketing at Bush Family and Natural Family Annheuser

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Speaker 4: Bush Yes, said quote, there's nothing like the smell of

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Speaker 4: fresh cut grass and an ice cold natty in your

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Speaker 4: hand after a perfect mow. But winter shuts down the

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Speaker 4: lawn and that's where the treadmower comes in. The garage

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Speaker 4: is where our fans fell most at home. No fluorescent light,

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Speaker 4: it's no crowds, just uninterrupted mowing glory and a cold

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Speaker 4: bear with enrage. Some things like a perfect cut and

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Speaker 4: a natti shouldn't have a season. She needs to be fired.

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Speaker 4: I call for her immediate termination. The thing is, there's

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Speaker 4: only one, there's only one tread mow. Where they just

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Speaker 4: made one.

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Speaker 2: Of them was more like bud light to me.

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Speaker 4: But it's more of a bud light thing. You can

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Speaker 4: enter to win the tread mower. Why and uh and

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Speaker 4: so you have to be twenty one and over. It's

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Speaker 4: there's only one. If you win it, you get the

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Speaker 4: only one there is. There's a picture of it album.

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Speaker 2: There's just one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Zaren, Can I tell you something? I found this

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Speaker 4: in time. This came to us from p Aka Teley

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Speaker 4: Fox on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Hello Pey Fox.

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Speaker 4: I found it in time, and you know what I

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Speaker 4: can tell you. I entered you to win it. Hand

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Speaker 4: to God I did.

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Speaker 2: Between you and Tely Fox. I'm raising my hand to God.

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Speaker 4: How great would that be? If you just, like you

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Speaker 4: know how people have like a standing desk, you're gonna

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Speaker 4: have like a treadmill or recording situation where you're on there,

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Speaker 4: just all chugging back natty lights.

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Speaker 2: On and back, trying to forget my life choices. It

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Speaker 2: led me to this, Well.

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Speaker 4: If you feel a little crazy, maybe like sprinkle crystal

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Speaker 4: light in one of them, A little taki for you,

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Speaker 4: No for you.

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Speaker 2: I don't drink. I just watch, Yeah, I just watch.

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Speaker 2: I know like crystal light.

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Speaker 4: Though, so I know I'll lend you one of my little.

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Speaker 2: Thank you I'll keep you.

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Speaker 4: Run a line of crystal light into it, you rail

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Speaker 4: rail of crystal into the natty you live in the life?

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Speaker 2: Son?

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Speaker 4: Why yeah?

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Speaker 2: That welcome I have so many questions answered.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, you don't even need Elizabeth. Thank you

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Speaker 4: so much for thinking of me and entering me into

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Speaker 4: this contest. Oh my god, honey, No, don't worry about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I can get you the number of that marketing lady too.

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Speaker 2: I don't even want to be mean to her, but like, really,

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Speaker 2: this is what you do with your one wildlife.

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Speaker 4: Everyone you know what, everyone brings their own gift to

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Speaker 2: Sure, yes, this is the worst white elephant party.

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Speaker 4: This is what I do.

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Speaker 2: So I got some ridiculous for you please, and it's

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Speaker 2: very much in the spirit of what you just said.

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Speaker 2: It me synergy. Yeah. So the lead singer slash rapper

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Speaker 2: for lint Biscuit, Fred Durst.

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Speaker 4: Oh my, that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Roll credits is a production. There's actually way more. I've

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Speaker 2: got a really fun one for you today, Elizabeth. It's

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Speaker 2: Fred Durst Versus the World. I'm gonna need that treadmore

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Speaker 2: and the Natye. This is Ridiculous Crime a podcast about

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Speaker 2: absurd and outrageous capers, heist and cons. It's always ninety

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Speaker 2: nine percent murder free and one hundred percent ridiculous. It's

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Speaker 2: ridiculous it's murder.

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Speaker 4: Free. Murder is the case that they gave me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, then you got free of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that. That's where close your eyes my

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Speaker 4: eyes are closed comes from. I know that you know

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Speaker 4: that snoops, murder is the case my eyes are closed.

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Speaker 2: But as you say up top, there's no one big,

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Speaker 2: singular crime in this story. Instead, it's a series of crimes.

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Speaker 2: Micro crimes, yes, summer traditional crimes involve cops and judges.

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Speaker 2: Others are just crimes against good taste.

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I need to ask what are your thoughts

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Speaker 2: about Fred Durst, like back in the day, did you

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Speaker 2: ever see him or worse yet, meet him or has

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Speaker 2: your brother ever shared a stage with him?

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Speaker 4: I've not met him. I know they were on the

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Speaker 4: Warped tour when a bunch of my friends were on it, Okay,

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Speaker 4: and they weren't fans of Okay, by the end of

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Speaker 4: the thing, you know, it was that whole rap rock

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Speaker 2: Yes, not my bag the no, No, this is more

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Speaker 2: like rap metal. But yeah, but they were in rock categories.

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Speaker 4: You're not wrong, Okay, rap metal.

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Speaker 2: Met to set the stage. I want to have Fred

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Speaker 2: Durst speak for himself. Oh no, because credit to him,

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Speaker 2: he's not going to actually be on the show, but

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Speaker 2: he knows who he is.

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Speaker 4: I was so scared. I was like looking at the door, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Bar the doors, Fred, do you want to come into

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Speaker 2: the room? For instance. Also, you see this red hat

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: So, he says the character Fred Durst was a monster

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Speaker 4: You know that's that's a good retcon there, of like

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Speaker 4: when you just geeze everybody off and they're like no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: So my character works.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I meant to do that. It's all genius. So

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Speaker 2: in an interview with the music outlet Metal Hammer, Durst said,

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Speaker 2: and I quote, I always knew the guy in the

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Speaker 2: red cap was not me. I'm doctor Frankenstein and that's

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Speaker 2: my creature. Being a breakdancer, a graffiti artist, a tattoo

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Speaker 2: It was a conscious effort to create Fred Durst, and

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Speaker 2: I had to check into that character, the gorilla, the thing,

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Speaker 2: the red cap guy. It's a painful transformation but I

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Speaker 2: when you have people pulling at you.

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Speaker 4: This is a painful transformation, right from.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Jekyll and mister Hide. It seems to delicate that

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Speaker 4: But well he's going from absolute delicate and actual too

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Speaker 2: It's quite a transformation. So does this that quote make

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Speaker 2: you feel for fred Durst now just a little bit?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 2: No, Well, at the moment, fred Durst is currently battling

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Speaker 2: a giant trying to get some justice, or rather, he's

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Speaker 2: trying to get paid money. He feels he's owed. But

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Speaker 2: you may be wondering, Zaren, who is this giant in

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Speaker 4: The guy from the succession, the tall guy from succession.

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Speaker 2: No good guys, cousin Greg? Yeah, No, it's Universal Music Group.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: Last year, Headlines reported on the feud between Fred Durst

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Speaker 2: and his band Limp Biscuit versus Universal Music Group Limp Biscuit.

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Speaker 2: They apparently filed a lawsuit against UMG, claiming that the

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Speaker 2: music label had cheated them out of like get this,

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Speaker 2: about two hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 4: Two hundred millions. Yes, I mean I believe the cheating part.

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Speaker 4: I mean, hello, but like.

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Speaker 2: They rowed two hundred million.

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Speaker 4: I guess they did. People did like it.

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Speaker 2: I guess right. Tune to two hundred million missing. That's

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Speaker 2: not the total amount of the.

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Speaker 4: Mad I mean, you've already bought a lot of ski.

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Speaker 2: News exactly, so it's a variety report on the story.

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Speaker 2: Quote Ombiscuit originally claimed UMG designed and implemented royalty software

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Speaker 2: and keep those profits for itself. UMG filed its motion

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Speaker 2: to dismiss the lawsuit in November, claiming that the lawsuit

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Speaker 2: is specifically the alleged concealment of royalties was quote fiction.

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Speaker 2: They pulled fiction out on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like, you're a fictional character.

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Speaker 2: Guess what I remember second grade when you learn it

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Speaker 2: fiction and nonfiction were you're the other. So, all right,

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Speaker 2: what's the latest news on Fred Durst? I think that's

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Speaker 2: just the latest news, right, I got way more so

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Speaker 2: I think we should go back to the beginning of this.

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Speaker 2: I'll try to get you on the side of Fred

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Speaker 2: Durst now, pointing out that's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, it's gonna take a whole lot more than that, I.

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Speaker 2: Bet, and that's gonna be Do you know what?

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Speaker 4: You may surprise me?

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Speaker 2: Who knows? I asked you to consider a simple question.

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Speaker 2: Is Fred Durst? Hmmm, you don't have an answer yet,

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Speaker 2: but I'm about to give you some inklings of one.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy in Jacksonville, Florida, he was born Frederick

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Speaker 2: Allen Maine the third.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, well when he was still My brain is

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Speaker 4: processing a couple things here, fred.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god? Yeah, so good, totally. It was a

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Speaker 2: to him like we're to be signed to get back

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Speaker 4: I don't even feel like Rage against the Machine transcends

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Speaker 2: Because of the actual political content of their songs.

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Speaker 2: In ninety seven, they released their first album, three Dollars Bill,

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Speaker 4: Sure the Biscuit, who else was nominated.

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Speaker 2: They lost in both categories. They lost to in Best

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Speaker 2: Yeah at this point ninety six, is that like Saint Anger,

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Speaker 2: it's a huge year for Biscuits, Garbage, Metallica at that point. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: You know what I was doing during Limp Biscuits set?

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Speaker 4: That was when all the riots started, Yes, and everyone

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Speaker 4: it was like that's when I said to all my people, like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that that is pretty much. Do you remember that?

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Speaker 2: But AKA Mini Me for the Austin Powers movies, he's

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, And the backstage you would have found, like

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00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 2: Jonathan Davis, a Corn, Jennifer Aniston, kid Rock Diddy, was

435
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 2: that they're chilling. They're all bumping their heads to limp

436
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 2: business together. Well, hair, let's pause for a second through

437
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 2: the madness of Woodstock because I'm having put a pin

438
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 2: in this and come back because there's way more to

439
00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 2: talk about Woodstock ninety nine. Okay, back in two and two,

440
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Zaron, We're so back. I got way more limp

441
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,360
Speaker 2: biscuit for you. So picking up with Woodstock ninety nine,

442
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 2: which is a really important moment in the culture, and

443
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 2: specifically for Limp Biscuit and their whole personal mythos and

444
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 2: for me and for you as well, and for Elizabeth

445
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 2: and for Elizabeth. Now when the crowd, it was like

446
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: first respondinglymp Biscuit as like a you know, they begin

447
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 2: to mosh because that's the thing to do, right, And

448
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 2: so fred Durst tells the crowd. They want to ask

449
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 2: us to ask you to mellow out a little bit.

450
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,439
Speaker 2: They say, too many people are getting hurt. Don't let

451
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 2: anybody get hurt. But I don't think you should mellow out.

452
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 2: Mellowing out that's what a lot is Morris had you

453
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: do if someone falls, pick them up. This is his

454
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: as you said, things are going crazy, this is his

455
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: advice right before the flames breakout. Is like, hey man,

456
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: you guys don't need to mellow out. Actually I can't.

457
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 4: I can't over like I cannot express enough the atmosphere

458
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 4: of this place of testosterone and like teen and twenty

459
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 4: something men slash boys, men man boys who were so

460
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 4: inebriated and so angry. Yes, and to be a woman

461
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 4: in that environment was terrifying, really absolutely terrifle.

462
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 2: I can imagine, I mean shocked.

463
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 4: It was like you know, I just think about how

464
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 4: it had reached a fever pitch by that point. But

465
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 4: then these kind of roving bands of guys, and you know,

466
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 4: I was like in my little protected area with my people,

467
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 4: and but you know there were girls there, women there

468
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 4: who really just wanted to have a good time, and

469
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 4: we're getting I would see them getting groped and treated

470
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 4: like subhuman and attacked, and then you think, like, so

471
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 4: this line of his what's alonis more set wanted, And

472
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 4: it was just like the whole time, You're sitting there

473
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 4: and you're thinking, I know that you have to have

474
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 4: contemporary music for Woodstock ninety nine, but this is so

475
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 4: far from the spirit of Woodstock.

476
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was.

477
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 4: It was. And I've gone to crazy punk shows, I've

478
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 4: gone to crazy metal shows, and I have never felt

479
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 4: that uncomfortable.

480
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: And it was it. I blame Fred Durst. The moment

481
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: where everything like the Damn breaks is literally the song

482
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 2: breaks stuff. He he channels the basically as you describe it,

483
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: the simmering rage of all the concert gars and at

484
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: the breakdown of the song, Fred tells the crowd time

485
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 2: to reach down deep inside and take all that negative energy,

486
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 2: all that negative energy let that out of your system.

487
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 2: You got girl problems, you got boy problems, you got

488
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: pair problems, you got boss problems, you got job problems,

489
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 2: you got a problem with me, you got a problem

490
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 2: with yourself. It's time to take out all that negative

491
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: energy and put it the out. Yeah, that's like the

492
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: biggest recipe, Like if you want to charge some of

493
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 2: them with inciting a.

494
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 4: Ride, right, but more so than you know, if you

495
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 4: went to like any kind of you go to. Let's

496
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 4: say you go to the warp Tour and you yell

497
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 4: that you know it's the people at Woodsuck. The difference

498
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 4: in reaction is that they had been there for three days.

499
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 4: You couldn't bring your own food and drink in, and

500
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 4: the prices were exorbitant, like even on today's standards, you'd

501
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 4: see it was like five dollars for a bottle of water.

502
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 4: And then at this point, like halfway through the last day,

503
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 4: the ATMs all ran out of money. And so you know,

504
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 4: you'd have everyone's getting and that we smuggled all of

505
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 4: our stuff in because I just refuse, you know, like

506
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 4: one way or I'll figure it out. But I'd see

507
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 4: people who are desperate, they were hungry, they were thirsty.

508
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 4: They're like, well, I'll just pull out more money. Money

509
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 4: they probably could ill afford at this point because the

510
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 4: tickets were so expensive and it's.

511
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: On a really huge slab of cement.

512
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 4: So oppressively hot, so hot, and so muggy, and they

513
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 4: weren't picking up garbage. Yeah, the porta potties are overflowing.

514
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 4: There's piles of trash everywhere. People are hungry and like

515
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 4: there now there there's no money in the ATMs, and

516
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 4: they didn't take cards back then, and so it was

517
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 4: just like everyone's mad, just so mad. And so either

518
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 4: they were just leaving and saying this isn't worth it,

519
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 4: or they're listening to this ding dong up on stage

520
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 4: who's like, do you hate everything?

521
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: How mad are you mad? Now, all fifty thousand of

522
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: you here, you can hear my voice. The crowd starts

523
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 2: to tear the place apart, literally, like now they're not washing.

524
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 2: The fistfights break out, crowd members tear the perimeter fence apart.

525
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: Some folks tried the crowd surfwood. I'm sure you probably

526
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: we could see it.

527
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 4: And we could see too, like there were the towers

528
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 4: for the lighting rigs.

529
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: And stuck in a lighting sway.

530
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 4: Yes, And that was kind of when we were like,

531
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 4: we got to get out of here, but I.

532
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: Had to be evacuated. Those towers, they had to be evacuated. Yeah,

533
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: so the camera people's sound people, they all fled the scene.

534
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 4: When we were making a run for it, we ran

535
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 4: by these two kids who were probably eight ten years

536
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 4: old or something, and they had like a baby doll

537
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 4: they'd rip the head off of and they were they

538
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 4: just look like they're out of their minds on something kids.

539
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 4: And I was like, this is this is so bad.

540
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 4: We've got to get out of here immediately, like.

541
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, after break stuff, that song's over. The concert promoters

542
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 2: tried to regain control because they actually made the band

543
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: pause while medical staff could clear out the wounded like

544
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: it was a gladiator pit. Nuts right. Fred Durst does

545
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: his part to kind of calm the anger he's unleashed

546
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: because he sees it right, and the band starts to

547
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 2: play their other big hit and Nookie, and Fred tells

548
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: the crowd, we already let out all the negative energy.

549
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: It's time to reach down and bring that positive energy.

550
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: This it's time to let yourself go right now. Because

551
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 2: there are no rules out there. He really just bad at.

552
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 4: The peace and the love or just shining out of

553
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 4: that one.

554
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

555
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: So at this point he climbs aboard one of the

556
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 2: plywood panels and tries to CrowdSurf this writhing crowd, and

557
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 2: the security is like trying to stop him, like Fred,

558
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: and he's like, I gotta be me, man, and he

559
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: just goes out there and crowdsurfing. Right when the band

560
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: finishes their set, police officers approach Fred and they're accompanied

561
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: by the band's manager. They all tell Fred about all

562
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: the damage he's caused. He's nonplus right. In an interview

563
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: after the fact, Fred Durst exculpated himself by saying, I

564
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: didn't see anybody getting hurt. You don't see that when

565
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: you're looking out on a sea of people in the

566
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: stage is twenty feet in there, and you're performing and

567
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: you're feeling your music. How did you expect us to

568
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: see something bad going on the same scene that you've described.

569
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: He claims that he could not do that.

570
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 4: Well see it, Well, it's just ignorant nihilism.

571
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: I think it's a lie. I think it's a lie.

572
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 2: So now, months after the concert, Trent Reznor, front man

573
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: for zine Inch Nails. He leveled some criticism at fred

574
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: Durst because a lot of people were like a lot

575
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: of people were blaming him, and so even people who

576
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: were at Woodstock ninety nine they're like, no, it was

577
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: like Jonathan Davis of Corn he blamed fred Durst. Yeah,

578
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: Trent Reznor told Rolling Stone his unvarnished opinion of fred Durst.

579
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: He said, fred Durst can serf a piece of plywood

580
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: up mile. Now. Years later, one of Woodstock ninety nine promoters,

581
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: John Sheer, Yeah, you had this to say fred Durst, who,

582
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: if I haven't said in enough times, is a complete

583
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: a moron. He was completely out of his mind.

584
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

585
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: So this performance and this all around debacle, this becomes

586
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: like the nadea of Limp Biscuits, like not standing in

587
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: the culture, but like an example of like, this is

588
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: what this band is about. If they spend the rest

589
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: of their careers trying to basically prove that they are

590
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: not this share media is violent.

591
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: They were trying to prove that they were like rebels

592
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 4: and bad boys, and they didn't have anything lyrically, no,

593
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: that was backing that up.

594
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: No or musically.

595
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 4: They weren't innovators in that it sounded like basically everything

596
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 4: else that was doing that, and then so here like, oh,

597
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 4: this is how I'm going to prove that I'm a

598
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 4: bad boy, but I don't have the stones to stand

599
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 4: up for it, you know what I mean. And if

600
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 4: you're a real like rebel or bad boy, or if

601
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 4: you were a real contrarian, you'd stop it, stop what

602
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 4: was happening and like call it out.

603
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: As if you were, as he says, a formerly bullied kid,

604
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: you might be a little more sensitive to I mean.

605
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 4: You think about when the you know, musicians that I've

606
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 4: I've read interviews are ones that I've even known when

607
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 4: they talk about like a crowd going south and the

608
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 4: choices you have, and like, you know, uh, one of

609
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 4: the ones that I love is the drop Kick Murphy's

610
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,239
Speaker 4: that when they really started standing up politically in this

611
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 4: latest you know, Hellscape, they had some fans who were

612
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 4: opposed to what they were saying. You know, we're right

613
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 4: leading fans, and rather than ignoring it or stopping it,

614
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 4: they just confronted it and we're like, we're not going

615
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 4: to stand for that. We're not going to stand for

616
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 4: any kind of like fascist symbolism.

617
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: Or that kind of stuff.

618
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 4: You know, you gotta you gotta be brave, and Durst

619
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 4: is not brave, No.

620
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: Not particularly. He's also kind of doing it, you know,

621
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: essentially for the reaction. It's a very adolescent response. Yes,

622
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: so at this point the music community starts to respond

623
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: to him like you have Like he gets into a

624
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: feud with the band of slip slip Knot. I'm not

625
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: sure if you remember Slipknot. They were the new metal

626
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: band that looked like they'd let a classroom of first

627
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: graders make masks of a bunch of stuff. They brought

628
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: it home from home. Yeah, like, oh those pipe cleaners.

629
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 4: So the story I can't get with that, but I

630
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 4: at least have more respect for that kind of experimentation.

631
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: Oh sure, yeah, there's some artistic quality there. Yeah, now

632
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: the story goes. Fred Durst said that Slip Knots fans

633
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: were quote a bunch of fat, ugly kids, which reasonably

634
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: pissed off the front man of Slipknot, This cat named

635
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: Corey Taylor. So the formerly Bullet Good now acting as

636
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: the boy. So Corey Taylor offers a teach bread Durst

637
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: some lessons in civility. In ninety nine, the front man

638
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: of slip Knot went on stage and said, Fred you

639
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: may have a lot of money and being all over

640
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: the world, but when you talk about Slipknot and our fans,

641
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: we will kill you. Who chase there's any mistake about

642
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: his intent. When he was later asked about the band's

643
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: feud with Fred Durst, the frontman of Slipknot, he looked

644
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: at a camera on a different show and as if

645
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: like Free were talking to fred Durst, he screamed, we

646
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: will come there and we will kill you. Oh God.

647
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, he was like Florida on Florida Violence right.

648
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: As much fun as it may be to picture it,

649
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: the mass musicians of Slipknot never did beat up fred Durst,

650
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: which brings us to our next fred Durst strangeness. Elizabeth,

651
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: see if you can do this. I wanted to try

652
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: to imagine Fred Durst and Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt

653
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: at the House of Blues in La hanging out together,

654
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: getting high in a back room.

655
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if I wanted to do Okay, I

656
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 4: can do this.

657
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 2: This place called the the Foundation Room. I've actually been

658
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: in the Foundation Room. It's this upstairs private club inside

659
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: of the House of Blues, and I didn't get there

660
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: because I was specially I got there because my friend

661
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: was a waiter there. My friend's style was a weight

662
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: at the House of Blues and around this same time,

663
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: actually he'd bring me in and the security would let

664
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: me be in these types of secret spaces and because

665
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: I'd hooked them up with weed or whatever, and it

666
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: was like I was go, was dope. I gotta se

667
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: Johnny Cash perform at the House of Baaloesa and yeah,

668
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: and it was like one of his last public shows. Also,

669
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: my boy style once he stole Rosa Park's fork when

670
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: she came in and ate at their weekly Sunday.

671
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 4: Brun out of her hand.

672
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: No, no, like when she was done, he like poinked

673
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: it and he kept it as a souvenir like I've

674
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: got Rosa Parks for I lived with that at the time.

675
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: We were so proud we put it on like our

676
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: band toll exactly. So anyway, this story is best told

677
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: by Fred Durst as he told it on his own

678
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: short lived podcast, and I quote, I went to the

679
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: premiere of rock Star. I'm friends with Mark Wahlberg and

680
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: he had this movie coming out, so I'd go to

681
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: the premiere. And at the premiere before the movie, I

682
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: met Jennifer Aniston and somehow ended up telling her I

683
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: was a fan of her husband, Brad Pitt. I think

684
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: it was her husband boyfriend something like that. But she says,

685
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: no way, he's a fan of you and your band.

686
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: You got to meet him, and I said that would

687
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 2: be awesome. So she says, after the movie, mean set

688
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: the House of Blues at the Foundation Room. We're having

689
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: a private little party. I was like, dope, So there's

690
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: the setup, right, didn't happen? My husband and I saw

691
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: you from across the bar.

692
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 4: Always a huge fan of yours. Here meet us at

693
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 4: this fun party.

694
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 2: So Fred Durst. He goes back to Fred and I quote.

695
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: So after the movie, I drove over to the House

696
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: of Blues on sunset and I was kind of late,

697
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: and I went up to the Foundation Room and it

698
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: was empty. Just the bartender was there, and I sat

699
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: there for a little while. I had a couple of

700
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: drinks and I was like, damn, man, they really pulled

701
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: one on me there. So he thinks he's been stood

702
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: up by Chen and Brad. Brad and Jen. As much

703
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 2: fun as it is to think that they actually punked

704
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 2: Fred Durst. It turns out he wasn't getting punked. He

705
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: just didn't know that there was a secret room inside

706
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: the private club. Because the House of Blues is supposed

707
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 2: to be like the speakeasy, like an so it's got

708
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: all these like secret rooms in private clubs. So back

709
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: to Fred Durst and I quote then the secret door

710
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: open and a bouncer or a bodyguard or somebody said

711
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: are you Fred? And I was like yeah, and he's like,

712
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: they're waiting for you in here. So I went in

713
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: this private, little hidden room, and of course it was

714
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: the after party, very small, really intimate. There was Jennifer

715
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: Aniston and Brad Pitt and some other people, and I

716
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 2: said hello. We were like hanging and laughing and having

717
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: a really cool time. He couldn't have been cooler and

718
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: she couldn't have been cooler. It was very very special

719
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: for me. So at this point though, it goes more

720
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: full on Fred Durst and he finds a way to

721
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 2: ruin the moment. Yes, back to Fred And next thing

722
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: you know, somebody's passing around to joint and I don't

723
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 2: smoke weed, but I'm a little buzz and I'm like,

724
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: all right, I'll just go at the flow here and

725
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: take a little puff. And I guess I took more

726
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: than a little puff. I guess because I was out

727
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 2: of my mind all of a sudden, like whoa. And

728
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: all I remember was that after that feel like making

729
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: Love from Bad Company was playing super loud, and me

730
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: having Brad and Jennifer and like a headlock. Jennifer's on

731
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: my left, Brad's on my right. My arms are around

732
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: their heads and jumping up and down, screaming the song

733
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: at the top of my lungs. Sure if they were

734
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: singing with me or enjoying it, but I do remember

735
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,959
Speaker 2: that I was like, whoa. I was so embarrassed. It's

736
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: this story is wasn't cursed enough. Later on, Fred went

737
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: to the set of Mister and Missus Smith What the

738
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 2: movie where that Brad made with Angelina Joel had destroyed

739
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: his marriage with Jennifer Aniston, and Fred apologizes to Brad

740
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: for being a douchebag. With Brad and Jen back of

741
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: the House of Booze. So apparently, unlike me, who would

742
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 2: have told him he's the reason why I got divorced

743
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 2: from Jen. Apparently Brad was chill about it. Fred says

744
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: that that he this is what he said to Brad quote.

745
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 2: I said, hey, I just really want to apologize for

746
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: this moment back in the day at the House of Blues,

747
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: and he was like, no way, bro, that was awesome.

748
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: You were killer. We had so much fun. And I

749
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: was like, no, I'm really sorry. I wasn't myself. I'm

750
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 2: sorry I acted that way. So he has Brad Pitt

751
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 2: tell him multiple times how cool he is. He threw

752
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: other people, never himself.

753
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 4: Happened. He wound up going to this after party. He

754
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 4: sees them, he puts him in the headlock while screaming.

755
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 4: Then he somehow I don't even know if he actually

756
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 4: went to the set of the movie, like, no one's

757
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 4: gonna ask Brad Pitt, can you verify it?

758
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: Can you verify this? Durst?

759
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, I went there and he was all, no, bro,

760
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 4: you're like my favorite. I loved it. Like, let's say

761
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 4: he did wind up on the film set. Annie went

762
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 4: up and apologized. I would put money on Brad Pitt

763
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 4: having absolutely no idea what he's talking about or who

764
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 4: he is, and being like, you know, it's cool, man,

765
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 4: you were great.

766
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: Totally, totally cool bro.

767
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 4: I gotta get going, but you know, oh liar.

768
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: So this brings us to Fred durst feud with Scott Stapp,

769
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 2: the lead singer of Creed.

770
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 4: Oh man, the hits just keep coming.

771
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: Totally right, like I hammered to the head. June of

772
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: two thousand, during the era of huge summer concerts. I

773
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: guess Limpbiscuit was invited to join like Ozzie and the

774
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: Deaf Tones and Godsmack at something called Dysfunctional Family Picnic,

775
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: New York, right, and another band on the bill was Creed,

776
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 2: which just makes for a very weird show. Absolutely Anyway,

777
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 2: when limp Biscuits on stage after showing up an hour late,

778
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: Fred Durst leans into the mic and tells the crowd,

779
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: I want to dedicate this next song to the lead

780
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: singer of Creed, and the song was their hit break Stuff,

781
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: which everybody knew had the good connotations to Woodstock. Mattis right.

782
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: So before the band starts into the song, Fred goes

783
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: on to say that guy's an ego maniac, he's a

784
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: punk and he's backstage right now, acted like Michael Jackson.

785
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: So when Creed he says this on on stage before

786
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: he plays the song. Dedicated to the guy he's running

787
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: down Classic, which obviously he did not mean. But when

788
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 2: Creed Lynn later takes the stage Scott's stab, he doesn't

789
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: run down Fred Durst, which would have been, you know,

790
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: really easy to do. Instead, he just says it takes

791
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: a lot more guts to say something to somebody than

792
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: behind their backs. So he man's up on him. So

793
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: this isn't the end of it because Fred isn't done.

794
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: Later on Fred's on MTV's TRL aka Total Request Live

795
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: and he addresses his new feud with frontman of Creed.

796
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 2: Fred says to MTV, for one thing, the guy's out

797
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 2: of his mind. The guy thinks he's better human than everybody.

798
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: You walk by his dressing room and his people look

799
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: at you and go. You do not approach the band,

800
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: You do not talk to the band, You do not

801
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 2: look at the band. Now. I don't know if he

802
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: was jealous of their popularity without having to be Dix

803
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: to everyone all the time, or it just remind him

804
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 2: of people who bullied him back in high school, or

805
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: like being excluded. I don't know.

806
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, I think if Jimmy Creed

807
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 4: was his.

808
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: Name, he was the singer Scott's Day.

809
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 4: If I'm him and I go out on stage after

810
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 4: having fred Durst run his little mouth, you don't say anything.

811
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 4: And then if someone says, oh, why didn't you respond like, oh,

812
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I wasn't listening when they were out on stage.

813
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: I don't listen to I'm sorry.

814
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 4: I don't know anything about that, but it gets what

815
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 4: I to your question. I do wonder was fred Durst

816
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 4: always the bully not the bullied? No, I think it's

817
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 4: this is like perpetual bully behavior, though I don't think.

818
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: He understands the limits of it. A bully like how

819
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 2: to be a tolerated.

820
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 4: Why pick on the dufices.

821
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: And creed it's you kind of called him. The late

822
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: nineties had a lot of agro. This is like, you know,

823
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: an era of like hyper masculinity, but done is like

824
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: I'm a dick. You see that I got in your face? Right?

825
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 2: So it's really like it's the most toxic of he

826
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: expressed it the most fully, and he was getting a

827
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: lot of money and prestige for it. So he's just

828
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: gonna go bigger and bigger until the balloon pops.

829
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 4: I mean, that's what happened with people I know who

830
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 4: had run ins with him. Is he wanted to start

831
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 4: fights and there's who are you? I don't even know?

832
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well the balloon keeps inflating. He's trying to

833
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: start fights. You know. Creed invited him to fight, like

834
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: actually like a boxing match for charity, and then Fred

835
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: he did not show up.

836
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 4: He was like, yeah, wait, so he starts all that

837
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 4: and doesn't show up.

838
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm on tourcals, I can't do that now.

839
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 2: A few summers later, Fred Durst is back in the

840
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: news after he makes this spectacle at another summer concert,

841
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: the Summer Sanitarium to headlined by Metallica. Knowing that Olympisco

842
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: would be one of the acts of the summer concert.

843
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: This local radio DJA he urged all his listeners in

844
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: the Chicago Land area to let Fred Durst just hear it,

845
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: mock him to his face, hackle him, throw stuff at

846
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: him ways on stage for days and days, possibly weeks.

847
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 2: He's telling his listeners just do not give this guy

848
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 2: a nice welcome to Chicago.

849
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 4: They're giving him exactly what he wants. What he wants

850
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 4: the attention. That's what all of this is.

851
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, this two thousand and three, that the era is

852
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: starting to change. Right Limp Biscuit. They take the stage

853
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: in Chicago, the crowd starts chanting Fred Durst, Fred Durst,

854
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: over and over again. Right that does the trick. Is

855
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: twenty minutes into the set, fred Durst throws down his

856
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: mic and he flees the stage in anger. He just

857
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: ran yeah. According to MTV dot COM's account, he continued

858
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: his profanity lace tirade from off stage with shouts about

859
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 2: how the band would be back and boasts that we

860
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 2: are the greatest band in the world. The abbreviated performance

861
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: caused a ninety minute delay between lymp Biscuit and headliners Metallic.

862
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 2: So he pisses off everybody all the way around. Oh

863
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: my god. Now I found someone who was at the

864
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: show who allegedly at least they wrote a review on

865
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 2: a fan site, and I quote, I always knew Fred

866
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: had an ego problem. At the concert in Chicago, he

867
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 2: had totally lost it. When he came out, the fans

868
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 2: were booing him and whipping like the three dollars water

869
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: bottles and six dollars lemonade bottles at him. He got

870
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: really pissed off, called them, then started calling everyone from Chicago.

871
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: He was telling everyone they could. So this is like

872
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: his approach to being like the star. There's mark because

873
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: the same fan ended their review with a choice quote

874
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: one last thing. In between songs, he went and got

875
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: a shotgun and was firing it into the air. I

876
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: don't know if that they were real bullets. I was

877
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: wondering if he shot it at other concerts too. On

878
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: the other hand, Lincoln Park and Metallica rock. So there's

879
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: that now. There was also around the same time the

880
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: Fred Durst in two thousand and five. Two years later,

881
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 2: was back in the news after a sex tape he

882
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: made was online. In my list of things I'd never

883
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: ever ever want to see, I think fred Durst's sex

884
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: tape is definitely high on that list. But I guess

885
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 2: the folks did want to see it, and so it

886
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: showed up on ten different websites. So what is fred

887
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: Durst do? He sues them now. According to Billboard, the lawsuit,

888
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: filed in Los Angeles federal court last week, seeks more

889
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: than seventy million dollars in damages and any profits the

890
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: site operators reaped in recent weeks when the three minute

891
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 2: clip of Durst and a former girlfriend began appearing on

892
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: the internet, So I don't know which part is funnier

893
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 2: to me though the fact he sued for seventy million

894
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: dollars for the fact that his sex tape was three

895
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: minutes long. Now, according to Billboard and the complaint, Durst

896
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: contends the two thousand and three video was never meant

897
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 2: for public viewing. It was stored in Durst's home computer,

898
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: but hackers managed to break in remotely and make a copy.

899
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: According to the lawsuit, hackers, I was hacked. Do you

900
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: believe this? No, not at all.

901
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 4: Attention boy, he wanted attention.

902
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 2: When news broke of the sex tape. Gocker rep Gocker.

903
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: They published a video from the sex tape that showed

904
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: Fred Durst and a full on shot of his little

905
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 2: Fred Durst, and the post was removed. But then hours

906
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: even they were like, this is too much, too far.

907
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 2: We may be gawker, but this is crossing a line.

908
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 2: So the damage is done though, so fred Durst lawyers

909
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 2: they joined the ranks of folks who were suing Gawker.

910
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, I guess when Fred Durst here's about this,

911
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 2: he reverses his lawyer's action and he according to Gawker. Quote.

912
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: Durst sent Gawker flowers and a note that explained he

913
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: quote never wanted the suit to include you guys.

914
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 4: He's like, I want more attention.

915
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't find the verdict on the lawsuit against

916
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: the ten websites. Yeah, but I have to assume they

917
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 2: settled out of court. All Gay, you know what time

918
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: it is. It's time to take another little break after

919
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: these messages. I'll tell you one of my favorite stories

920
00:44:40,120 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 2: about Fred and his legal troubles. No Rebacca, Elizabeth.

921
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 4: Yes we are.

922
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: Are you ready to hear my absolute favorite Fred Durst

923
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: and Limp Biscuit story? Sure? Good good. In the biography

924
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: Eruption in the Canyon two hundred and twelve Days and

925
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 2: Nights with the Genius of Eddie van Halen, the books

926
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: author Andrew Bennett, he recounts this gem of a story

927
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 2: where Eddie Van Halen goes over to Limp Biscuit's rented

928
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 2: mansion and like Beverly Hills to like jam out with

929
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: Fred Durst after the guitarist Wes Borland had quit the

930
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: band once again. Okay, he does this often. He quit,

931
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 2: comes back, comes back anyway, I guess Fred Durst wanted

932
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: to give Andy van Halen an audition to replace stock

933
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: Wes Borland on guitar stop. Can you imagine being Eddie

934
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: van Halen and hearing Limp Biscuit wants to give you

935
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: a tryout to join the Why even.

936
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 4: Go over there? Was? He just like morbid curiosity?

937
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: He does it? I don't know. He goes to Beverly

938
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: Hill's house, he jams out with Fred Durst and trust

939
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 2: Fred was well aware of the irony of all this.

940
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 2: He told the author with this guy Bennett, that would

941
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: be absolutely hilarious if quote, the greatest guitar player ever

942
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 2: plays with the worst band ever. He's not switches a bit.

943
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: Remember before they were the greatest band.

944
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

945
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: So anyway, the author Bennett added his take, saying that

946
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: the jam session with Eddie Van Halen must have quote

947
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 2: been like a scholar amongst kindergarteners. So can you imagine

948
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 2: how that jam session must have played out in real life? No,

949
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 2: because I got three words for you. Close your eyes,

950
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: my eyes. I want you to picture it. It's midday

951
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: and Beverly Hills and you are passed out on a

952
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: couch and the rented mansion of Limp biscuit. You spent

953
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: the last few days here because you are a limp

954
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: biscuit groupie can generally make terrible decisions with your life. Anyway.

955
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: You're violently awoken when you hear the band start jamming.

956
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 2: But there's this one sound that doesn't mesh with all

957
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: the other noise you hear coming from down the hallway.

958
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful guitar fighting against the heavy, chunky, new

959
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: metal sound. You know to be nim biscuit. You get

960
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: up from the couch and pad down the hallway to

961
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: see what's making this beautiful sound against the racket you

962
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: know and love. The end of the hallway is a

963
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: converted garage. It's been turned into a home studio. When

964
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: you open the door, you see the source of that

965
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: beautiful noise. Is that, yes, it is. It's Eddie van

966
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: Halen of the band Van Halen. He's playing his iconic

967
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 2: red guitar with all the white and black ribbon mines

968
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: all over it, and he seems to be enjoying himself.

969
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: As Fred Durst freestyles on the mic, how crazy you

970
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 2: think to yourself? You take a seat on a couch

971
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 2: in the home studio. Soon enough, the band stops playing

972
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: to take a break. They join you on the couches.

973
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: This whole moment is surreal. Fred Durst ask you for

974
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: a lighter. You scrounge one from your jean's pocket and

975
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: hand it over. He lights a join and starts to smoke.

976
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 2: But there's soon a problem when Eddie van Halen comes over.

977
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: He says he's in recovery. He doesn't like to be

978
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: around drugs. The band thinks he's kidding. He is not

979
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: soon enough. Eddie van Halen cusses up a storm, then

980
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: storms out of the jam space, slamming the studio door

981
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: behind him. You think that's kind of weird. The next day, Elizabeth,

982
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 2: you're again asleep on a couch and the rented mansion

983
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: of Lynbiscuit. You hear a phone ring and ring. No

984
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: one is answering it, so you do. If the other

985
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: end is Eddie van Halen, and he is still pissed.

986
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: He shouts about how he wants to come get his

987
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 2: guitars and his amps from next studio space. You tell

988
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: him your gift, Fred the message. You hang up the

989
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 2: phone and you go back to bed on the couch,

990
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 2: and you probably forget all about the call. The next day,

991
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: you get again, wake up on the couch in the

992
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 2: same rented mansion of Lynbiscuit. You hear people shouting about something.

993
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 2: Don't they know you're trying to sleep. Clearly they don't know,

994
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 2: or they don't care because they have more pressing matters.

995
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: Eddie van Halen is outside and he's driving up to

996
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 2: the mansion in a military assault vehicle, one that looks

997
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: like he bought it directly from the US Army. He

998
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: pulls up to the house, drives up onto the lawn.

999
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 2: This thing is a beast. It has a gun mount

1000
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: with a machine gun. Clearly, Eddie van Halen means business.

1001
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: You go to the window and watch Eddie van Halen

1002
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: hops out of his military assault vehicle, which he leaves

1003
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: running on the lawn in case he needs like make

1004
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: a speedy exit. Eddie van Halen huffs it puffs as

1005
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 2: he walks up to the front door. He's not wearing

1006
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 2: a shirt. His jeans have no belt. Instead, he has

1007
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 2: a rope where a belt should be. He's wearing combat

1008
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: boots fastened together with duct tape, and his hair is

1009
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: piled atop his head like a Samurai top knot. He

1010
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 2: looks a mess. Oh, and he also has a gun

1011
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: in his hand. You see Fred Durst go to the

1012
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 2: door and open it to greet Eddie van Halen. When

1013
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: the front door swings open, Eddie van Halen lifts his

1014
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 2: gun and he aims it right at Fred Durst's red

1015
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,479
Speaker 2: hat and he barks at Fred, where's my Fred looks

1016
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 2: at you and says, tell Peter to go get Eddie

1017
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: van Halen. You don't know who Peter is, so you

1018
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 2: just shake your head. Fred calls out, Peter, get Eddie

1019
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: van Halen's guitars and ams from the studio and bring

1020
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: them out here. Satisfied, eddievan Halen lowers the gun, but

1021
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 2: just so he can light a cigarette. Once he screws

1022
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 2: that litzig into his waiting face, he raises the gun

1023
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 2: and points it again at Fred Durst. The two men

1024
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: stand out front in the Beverly Hills mansion in the

1025
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: middle of the day as they wait for Eddie van

1026
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: Halen's music gear to be delivered out to them. The

1027
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: assault vehicle idols in the background. Neither man talks. Once

1028
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: the assistant guitar tech Peter comes out with the stuff.

1029
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 2: You watch as Eddie van Halen personally calls it to

1030
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 2: his waiting assault vehicle. No one helps her load it.

1031
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: Once he has all his stuff, Eddie van Halen tucks

1032
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: his gun into his jeans with the rope belt, climbs

1033
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 2: into his military assault vehicle with the machine gun mount,

1034
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: and he drives away. Is that not the best?

1035
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 4: His outfit is amazed? This just sounds so rad his

1036
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 4: hair all up top. Was Valerie Burton Ellie like at

1037
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 4: the catbird seat shooting the gun.

1038
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, she's in the driver's seat, she's waiting.

1039
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 2: Then she positioned, repositioned in the the mount, she's aiming

1040
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: the gun. Sixty col. So now, I'm sorry to make

1041
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: you a groupie for lymp Biscuits, but I wanted you

1042
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: to have a front roast scene, low point in their lives.

1043
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: So that one's wild, right, Yeah, I've got a couple more.

1044
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 2: This next one is another one of my favorite fred

1045
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 2: Durst stories. Did you know that in twenty fifteen Fred

1046
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: Durst was banned from Ukraine?

1047
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 4: Band from Ukraine?

1048
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 2: Why was fred Durst banned from Ukraine? But that's not all, Elizabeth.

1049
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: There's a related question. Why was Limp Biscuit and fred

1050
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 2: Durst banned from Estonia in twenty twenty five. What great questions, Elizabeth.

1051
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: I know it all comes down to something Fred did

1052
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: back in twenty fifteen. You see, Fred Durst decided to

1053
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: wade into international relations and share his feelings about Russia

1054
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: violently annexing Crimea from Ukraine. So the recent news hook

1055
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: is that in November of last year, twenty twenty five,

1056
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: the show promoter, Baltic Live Agency, canceled a Limp Biscuit

1057
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 2: show scheduled for May of this year in Talline, Estonia.

1058
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 2: According to the Estonian news agency er R, the promoter

1059
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: put out this press release stating that quote, we inform

1060
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: you that, due to circumstances beyond the organizer's control, the

1061
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: Limp Biscuit concert plan for May thirty first, twenty two,

1062
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: twenty six is canceled. Our apologies exclamation point.

1063
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 4: They're all on their knees, all across Estonian bruising. Wait,

1064
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 4: what is it? What does it have to do with Ukraine?

1065
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to tie it all together for you. So

1066
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 2: that same Estonian news site they clarified that it wasn't

1067
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: due to the fact that it wasn't two thousand and

1068
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 2: two anymore, and there was no demand for tickets, but

1069
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 2: rather that the canceled show stemmed from Fred Durst holding

1070
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: up a sign back in twenty fifteen that read quote

1071
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: Crimea equals Russia. Now this was one year after it

1072
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 2: was Russia annex Crimea from Ukraine? Like not like before

1073
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: one year?

1074
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 4: Was it like standing with the people of Ukraine.

1075
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: No, he was standing with the Russians. Oh, Fred, No, Elizabeth,

1076
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 2: you may be wondering, why would Jacksonville, Florida is fine

1077
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: as Fred Durst have strong opinions about international relations in

1078
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: Russia's seizure of crime questions doesn't normally expressed political sentiments

1079
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 2: about the USA. No, Well, from the articles I read,

1080
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: the credit for Fred's political awakening dates back to his

1081
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 2: marriage to his third wife, Russian makeup artist Kenitsia Brerozina.

1082
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 2: So you see, back in twenty fifteen, the same year

1083
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: he held up that sign Crimea equals Russia, he also

1084
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 2: publicly expressed his interest in buying a home in Crimea.

1085
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: Not only that, he also publicly expressed his interest in

1086
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 2: getting into the Crimean film and TV industry and making

1087
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 2: movies over there. According to Billboard Magazine, which cited this

1088
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 2: Russian newspaper that reported that Fred quote said, sent a

1089
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: leather Crimean authorities in which he said that he was

1090
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: interested in spending half of the year in the region

1091
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: producing films and TV series that would take Russia to

1092
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: a new level in the industry, also working for a

1093
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 2: great future of Crimea and Russia.

1094
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 4: No I just.

1095
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 2: Once spread durs wants to get his foot in the

1096
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: door in the Russian film. He also reportedly told the

1097
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 2: same thing to Spotneck International, another Russian news outlet. He

1098
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 2: added that he was hopefully he could get a Russian

1099
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 2: passport and to sway the Russians in his favor. Fred

1100
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 2: apparently wrote a letter to Crimean officials in which he

1101
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: lauds Vladimir Putin and referred to him as quote a

1102
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: great guy with clear moral principles and a nice person.

1103
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 4: Did he land an ambassadorship this time around?

1104
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 2: No, I mean Jordan cabinet position. W Bush said he

1105
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 2: saw his soul, and he saw his soul or the

1106
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 2: soul of Vladimir Putin in his eyes, right, And so

1107
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 2: I think he's trying to piggyback off that kind of leg.

1108
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: But he's just like fifteen years late on this, or

1109
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 2: you know, I guess fourteen yeah, so between the sign

1110
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 2: he held up his comments on Vladimir Putin's fining qualities

1111
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 2: as a human being. The Nation of Ukraine banded Fred

1112
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 2: Durst and Limp Biscuit their music Yeah Right Buddy, which

1113
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: brings us to the canceled twenty twenty six show in Estonia.

1114
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: After Fred's comments about Putin being a nice guy resurfaced online,

1115
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 2: the Estonian Ministry of Foreign Affairs publicly noted supporters of

1116
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: Putin and his invasion of Ukraine were not welcome in Estonia. Nice.

1117
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: But that's not all because for those who still followed

1118
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 2: Limp biscuits musical output, there was also a music video

1119
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: that muddied the waters as well, because in twenty twenty three,

1120
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 2: Olympis Get put out a music video for their new

1121
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 2: song out of Style just says it all. I assume

1122
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 2: it's a commentary in the fact that over the years

1123
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 2: the band has refused to change in style or sound. Sure, anyway,

1124
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 2: I watched the music video because I know you wouldn't

1125
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 2: the first Woo girl, it is something. The video features

1126
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 2: the reunited band like Westborland is back.

1127
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 4: At the bed, Yeah, Eddie van Halen's Hole.

1128
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 2: They're performing in a suburban garage just starting all over again, right,

1129
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: like the garage.

1130
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 4: Jars men, Yes, grown men who have to get prostate exams. Yes,

1131
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 4: grown men with sciatica.

1132
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like fifty two to fifty three years old

1133
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 2: at this point. But the band they don't look like themselves, right,

1134
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: because I think they know that they look like people

1135
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: who have sciatica and need prostating SAMs. So instead they

1136
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 2: have deep faked faces, right, they have like fake faces

1137
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 2: like the computer enhanced ye every.

1138
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 4: Place, the reverse aging like from the Irishman.

1139
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 2: The fred Durst has made it look like Vladimir Putin.

1140
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 4: No no, no no, it's.

1141
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: Still wearing his trademark red hat, so it's Putin wearing

1142
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 2: fred Durst like red hat. Quite the look. Then there's

1143
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 2: the guitarist West Borland. He's deep fake to look like

1144
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 2: Joe Biden and he even like falls off a kid's bike,

1145
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 2: which to make fun of the fact Joe Biden fell

1146
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 2: off a bike at the time. Then there's the turntables

1147
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: DJ Lethal who looks like Vollitimayer Zelensky right, and the

1148
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 2: drummer he's made to look like Jijinping, which I don't

1149
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 2: even want to get into the whole implication to that

1150
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: it's all in hinge, right, it's not kind of un

1151
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 2: it it's all unhinged now, Elizabeth, let me tell you.

1152
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: Seeing Vladimir Putin and Fred's distinctive red hat while he's

1153
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 2: air scratching the turntables inside the suburban garage is just

1154
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 2: a wild image to content. I'm good. There's also the

1155
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 2: shot of Vladimir Putin's aka Fred holding up a beer

1156
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 2: bong in the garage while Joe Biden aka Wes Borland

1157
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: and DJ lethal Is Zolensky and the drummer Zijongping. I'll

1158
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: cheer him on to drink it. Another wild moment in

1159
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 2: my life to consider.

1160
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 4: It's really incisive political commentary that.

1161
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: He gets clear, you get the message. This is up

1162
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 2: there with like Genesis and yeah, yeah, but I haven't

1163
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: gotten to the lyrics of the song.

1164
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 4: They are cool.

1165
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: Sorry. Expecting Time is a production of Fred sings I've

1166
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 2: been asking for something, asking for something. Well, I'm asking

1167
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: for nothing. Ask him for nothing. When's it gonna change?

1168
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 2: Hurts me in a loving kind of way. I'm gonna celebrate. Yeah,

1169
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 2: And then he goes on to wrap It's time to

1170
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 2: rock this because I'm always out of style. Never changed

1171
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 2: my style because my style is kind of fresh. You

1172
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: asking for a sound check check one two? You barely

1173
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: touch the ground. Yeah, so there you go.

1174
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 4: That's not enough for political insight.

1175
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 2: Totally looks and goes, I wish I had that talent.

1176
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 2: Now I have one more fun fact about that music.

1177
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: It was made in twenty two twenty three, which was

1178
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 2: five years after Fred divorced his Russian makeup artist w

1179
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 2: Didncia Bitterzino. They split back in twenty eighteen, so we

1180
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: can't blame his wife for his pro putin content. And

1181
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: I've really never liked to do like blame the wife

1182
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 2: or blame a woman for what a man does. But

1183
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 2: point of fact, it was Fred all along. So which

1184
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 2: brings us to my last Fred Nurse tuita another personal

1185
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 2: favor because it evolves the band Insane Clown Posse.

1186
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 4: Are You kidding?

1187
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: Aka? The other Wheeze?

1188
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 4: Are there Furries? Can we just can we go all in?

1189
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: So the story goes back in twenty eighteen when Limp

1190
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: Biscuit was performing in Camden, New Jersey at the Rock

1191
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 2: Allegiance Festival. Their co headliners were The Insane Clown Posse

1192
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 2: featuring rappers Violent Jay and Shaggy two Dope. So they

1193
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 2: were backstage while Limp Biscuit was on stage doing their set.

1194
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: The bands are running through their cover of George Michael's

1195
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 2: song Faith m you know, the scream singing affair, and

1196
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 2: I guess Shaggy Too Dope had the same kind of

1197
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: reaction you have and it just said had enough? So

1198
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 2: what does he do? Question? Listen. Yes, Shaggy Too Dope

1199
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 2: rocks up the nerve to go out on stage mid

1200
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: set and he attempts to do a flying kung fu

1201
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 2: kick at Fred Durst.

1202
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 4: He just couldn't take it anymore.

1203
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 2: No, he's like, I gotta kick him off the stage. Yes,

1204
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: I say attempt because his take off with not Queen.

1205
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could imagine this estimation.

1206
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 2: Of his kung fu skill was overblown, his desire far

1207
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 2: away his skill. What must have been a great idea

1208
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 2: when his brain came up, when it turned into a

1209
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 2: pathetic attemp in his body execut.

1210
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 4: It's like when children are like, watch this and in

1211
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 4: their mind they're gonna like fly through the air. They're

1212
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 4: gonna be like some sort of anime figures.

1213
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: So you know, and then it's just Shaggy too dope.

1214
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 2: Gravity disagrees, another victim of gravity. So Fred is on

1215
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: the mic, singing with Shaggy two Dope emergents fight his stage.

1216
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 2: He sort of half runs out on stage, leaves into

1217
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 2: the air sideways to perform his flying kick, and then

1218
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: gravity humbles him. He slams at the stage before making

1219
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: contact with Fred Durst. So, as music outlet Metal Sucks reported,

1220
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 2: oh and I quote. What's not presently clear is whether

1221
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 2: or not mister two dope sincerely intended to hurt mister Durst.

1222
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: One concertgoer, noting that the two have collaborated before, says

1223
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: that Durst quote shouted out ICP earlier in the set,

1224
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 2: and two dopes body language is throwing horns, running blacks

1225
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 2: of days, et cetera, does not suggest any earnest aggression.

1226
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 4: So what if I'm him and I meant to kick

1227
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 4: him right in the head and lop his noggin off

1228
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 4: and have it rolled across the stace. I missed two

1229
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 4: three feet, I'd like I meant to do that.

1230
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 2: I was just play acting, man, me, I'm crazy. How

1231
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 2: funny is that insane clown? Posse? So, after his flying

1232
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 2: kick fails. Fred Durst dressed in a by the way

1233
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,439
Speaker 2: Bo Jackson raiders Jersey and a wide brand Wow, dare

1234
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 2: you gamo hunting hat? And I don't know dirt bike gloves,

1235
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 2: He proudly says to the crowd. What he couldn't even

1236
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: pull it off. And at this point security team drags

1237
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 2: Shaggy Too Dope off stage. I couldn't find any reports

1238
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 2: of any criminal charges filed against mister two dope. And

1239
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: after that, Elizabeth is where we will leave it.

1240
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 4: He should then Bo Jackson should have come out on

1241
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 4: the stage and just ended him.

1242
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 2: So what's ridiculous Jackson Jersey?

1243
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 4: Mmm? You know, I thought we were friends, but you.

1244
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 2: Do all these mashups at me. So I had to

1245
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 2: Fred Durst at you.

1246
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 4: I think I think I will call it even though,

1247
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 4: So what's yours takeaway?

1248
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 2: I was surprised when I was doing this research that

1249
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: he hasn't spent much time behind bars or had very

1250
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: serious charges. It's mostly him doing adolescent antics in an

1251
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 2: embarrassing way and then running off to the next place

1252
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 2: he can get attention and then doing it again, wash

1253
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 2: rants repeat. I was just like, you know, and like

1254
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 2: I'm pulling for the guy. Honestly, Like, I'm like reading

1255
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 2: these stories, I'm like, I want you to overcome your

1256
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: fred durstness, kill the monster that you created fred Durst.

1257
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 2: And he just refuses.

1258
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 4: Can I just keep waiting for him to pop off

1259
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 4: to the wrong person.

1260
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 2: I think he's done a good job of picking people

1261
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 2: who cannot find his home address, or if they are,

1262
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: and they show up with just the most insane stuff

1263
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 2: and just out.

1264
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 4: Crazy, like you know the Creed dude, Jimmy Creed. He's like, oh,

1265
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 4: you want to fight, well, let's do this for charity

1266
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 4: and we'll wear boxing gloves. Yeah, he's not going to

1267
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 4: go out and actually do it.

1268
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: No, he's not going to like lace up gloves and

1269
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 2: swing those things. Tell you in the mood for a talkback,

1270
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 2: believe I figure you need it desperately. Oh God, I want.

1271
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 5: Hi. This is Anna from Texas and I wanted to

1272
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 5: tell you about my ridiculous family. In the late eighteen hundreds,

1273
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 5: my Italian immigrant family came to Vicksburg, Mississippi, and started

1274
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 5: a little grocery store there, and they almost completely burned

1275
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 5: down the entire block because they were trying to ripen

1276
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 5: bananas by candlelight in the middle of the night and

1277
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 5: that is just ridiculous. Thanks for the great show.

1278
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 4: Candle Light Banana ripening is so I want to know

1279
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 4: the uncle or grandfather who came up with that.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's like, yes, we get a lot of candles.

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Speaker 4: And then they find out you just put them in

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Speaker 4: a paper bag.

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Speaker 2: What what now? No? I like, we got all these candles.

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Speaker 2: We know how hard it was to get all this.

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Speaker 4: That's ridiculous and I love it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the As always, you can find us

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Speaker 2: online Ridiculous Crime on Blue Sky and Instagram and was

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Speaker 2: it Fangle and the other ones? Yes, And also we

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Speaker 2: have our accounting Ridiculous Crime Pod on YouTube. You can

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Speaker 2: listen to us there. We can watch the animation. It's

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Speaker 2: kind of cool. And then also uh oh, go go

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Speaker 2: to the the Apple Tunes or Apple iPod app and

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Speaker 2: you leave a review, leave us a comment. We like

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Speaker 2: reading what you guys have to say, or at least

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Speaker 2: being told about it. We also have our website, Ridiculous

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Speaker 2: Crime dot com. The website offers you all sorts of

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Speaker 2: beautiful visual art and just I'm talking to chief gifts right,

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Speaker 2: and then also some merch and by the way, Elizabeth

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Speaker 2: the website was just nominated as the new ninth planet

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Speaker 2: in our solar system. I'm very excited about that, right

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Speaker 2: hope we win Fingers crossed. We also obviously love to

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Speaker 2: talk back, so go to the iHeart app download it,

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Speaker 2: leave us a talkback. Maybe we'll hear your voice here.

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Speaker 2: We'd like to hear it. And also you can email

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Speaker 2: us if you want at Ridiculous Crime at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening and we will catch you next crime.

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Speaker 2: Ridiculous Crime is hosted by Elizabeth Dutton and Zaren Burnett,

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Speaker 2: produced and edited by Eddie Van Halen's personal stylist Dave Houston,

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Speaker 2: and starring Annaly's as Judith. Research is by Lin Biscuits,

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Speaker 2: Deep Fake Tech team, Marissa Brown and Jabbari Davis. Our

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Speaker 2: theme song is by the actual Greatest band in the

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Speaker 2: World aka Thomas Lee and Travis Dutt. The host wardrobe

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Speaker 2: provided by Botany five hundred. Guest hair and makeup by

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Speaker 2: Sparkleshock and mister Andre. Executive producers are the former promoters

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