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Speaker 2: Hey Willow, good morning, Welcome to the show. How are

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Speaker 2: you okay? So I just will I like this, don't

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Speaker 2: just get run into them, you know, like I don't

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Speaker 2: even need to ask any questions. It's fine. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: let me just set it up though. You are calling

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Speaker 2: about a guy named Jake who you met on Instagram. Now, Willow,

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Speaker 2: what happened after that?

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Speaker 3: So he like replied to one of my stories and

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Speaker 3: so yeah, I replied back, and I thought he was cute,

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Speaker 3: and he got my number and then we've been.

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Speaker 4: Like texting every day, and then it even started to

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Speaker 4: get kind of like hot and heavy, and so we were, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we were like ramping up and I to like meet

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Speaker 4: in person, and I was really excited.

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Speaker 3: But then, like out of.

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Speaker 4: Nowhere, one day, he ghosted me. And then I checked

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Speaker 4: on Instagram and he unfollowed me.

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Speaker 2: So this dude was a virtual stranger, Like he didn't

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Speaker 2: you don't know him from anybody. He just saw your

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Speaker 2: stuff on Instagram. But you never even made it to

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Speaker 2: the date. So you're you're asking a question like, it's

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Speaker 2: not like you were ghosted after meeting him. You never

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Speaker 2: even got to meet him. You had a date plan

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Speaker 2: and then nothing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we were talking for like almost a month.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's wild.

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Speaker 2: So why would you then all of a sudden, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I guess that's a question that we're going to try

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Speaker 2: and get an answered. But why would you spend a

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Speaker 2: month talking to someone just to ghost them?

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Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, Willow, let's we're gonna play a song,

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Speaker 2: come back in a couple of minutes after the song,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna call this guy Jake, see if we

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Speaker 2: can get him on the phone. We're gonna ask these

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Speaker 2: questions on your behalf. You'll be on the phone too.

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Speaker 2: At some point You're welcome to jump in, and the

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Speaker 2: hope is that we can figure out what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he has a good explanation and then set you

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Speaker 2: up on what would be I guess a first date

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Speaker 2: and pay for it. All right, Hey, Willow, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Let's call this guy Jake. You guys, you met on

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Speaker 2: Instagram because he commented on one of your stories. He

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Speaker 2: was a stranger. You wound up following each other and

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Speaker 2: talking for a month. You talked about a date, but

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Speaker 2: then the day came and there was no confirmation. Date

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Speaker 2: never happened, and then you realize he unfollowed you on

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Speaker 2: top of that, so you're like, wait a minute, why

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Speaker 2: did I invest a month? Like what happened exactly? All right,

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Speaker 2: let's call this guy now, figure it out? Good luck Willow? Hello,

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Speaker 2: Hi is this Jake? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: This is Jake, Hey Jay, good morning. My name is Fred.

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Speaker 2: I'm calling from the Fred Show, the morning radio show,

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Speaker 2: and I have to tell you that we are on

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Speaker 2: the radio right now and I would need your permission

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Speaker 2: to continue with the call. Could which app for just

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Speaker 2: a second, Would you mind.

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Speaker 1: I've never done this before. Is this uh every been

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Speaker 1: on the radio? I mean, is that a yes?

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Speaker 2: Is that cool? I mean, I'll tell you. I just

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Speaker 2: needed I just need to say okay, yeah, I guess okay, perfect, Thanks,

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Speaker 2: we're calling on the That was a yes to me.

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Speaker 2: We're calling on behalf of a woman, uh that I

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Speaker 2: guess you met and chatted with on Instagram. Her name

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Speaker 2: is Willow and you had a date planned. Do you

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Speaker 2: remember Willow?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, listen, I'm uh, I'm just not that into her.

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Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know. Oh want to go ahead on

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Speaker 1: the date with her? Well, how how do we get okay?

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Speaker 2: Because she called us and told us that that you

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Speaker 2: initiated contact with her on Instagram, You commented something and

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Speaker 2: you guys chat it for a month. She said, you

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Speaker 2: chet it for a month and talked about a date,

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Speaker 2: and then the date never happened.

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Speaker 1: Anyone followed her.

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Speaker 2: So she wants to know why she invested a month

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Speaker 2: in someone who was only going to ghost her, Like,

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Speaker 2: what what changed?

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Speaker 1: I'm sure if I'm'm allowed to talk about this on

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Speaker 1: the radio, you let me decide.

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Speaker 2: If you're allowed, you just do the talking and I'll

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Speaker 2: do the figuring out about that part.

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Speaker 6: All right, I'm gonna all right, I'll try to keep it,

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Speaker 6: but please Basically, at one point, like during.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, steamy.

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Speaker 5: Conversation, I guess you could say she told me that

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Speaker 5: she had never reached the.

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Speaker 1: Final destination of a hookup.

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Speaker 2: Wow, this conversation got you know, you go from from

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Speaker 2: commenting on her story to talking about, you know, some

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Speaker 2: really personal details about intimacy.

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Speaker 1: So she'd never I mean, she's never reached the peak. No, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: she's never had one of those.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like a challenge to me, Like, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: why is that the reason why you're not talking to

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Speaker 2: her anymore? Like that sounds like something that would be like, well,

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Speaker 2: let me give this a let me give this a whirl.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just not into that, Like that's the same

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Speaker 5: like she's I just think she's obviously difficult to please

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Speaker 5: and she's thirty three.

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Speaker 1: That to me, that's a red flag. If I get

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Speaker 6: If you've never if that's ever happened, that's about you,

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Speaker 6: not about the other people I've you know, like there's something,

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Speaker 6: there's other stuff going on there, and I just I

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Speaker 6: don't want to I don't want the challenge. I don't

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Speaker 6: want to Well, I was gonna say that.

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Speaker 2: Let's say you're right, Jake, Like, let's say this is

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Speaker 2: some sort of issue about any number of things that

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Speaker 2: is preventing her from getting there. Let's just say that

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Speaker 2: play devil's advocate. Like, who's to say that in the

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Speaker 2: course of you getting to know each other and she,

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Speaker 2: you know, her becoming comfortable with you and all these things,

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Speaker 2: who's to say that that you don't figure it out together?

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Speaker 2: Like it's maybe you're the guy to crack the code.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just I'm too old to be a teacher,

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Speaker 5: if that's what it's. It's just like I just think

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Speaker 5: she sounds it sounds like she's difficult, and I'm just

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Speaker 2: Well, when you're as open minded and eager and hard

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Speaker 2: working as you are and dedicated and I you know

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Speaker 2: that you're the perfect guy for the job, clearly, I mean,

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Speaker 2: what is it that you want? Like you want the

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Speaker 2: person just to like it just happens automatically, like they

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Speaker 2: look at you and there I just want.

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Speaker 7: Somebody, someone who knows, who knows themselves, who understands, like,

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Speaker 7: who knows how how they work? How what they like,

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Speaker 7: we're too old to be trying to figure this out

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Speaker 7: on it at this stage.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but who am they right?

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Speaker 2: Who's to say that that no one's I mean, maybe

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Speaker 2: no one's ever taken the time to to care enough

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Speaker 2: let me ask. I mean, Willow's here. I forgot to

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Speaker 2: mention that Willow is here, So you shared with him?

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Speaker 1: Willow?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, but I'm very forgetful you shared with Jake

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Speaker 2: that you've never reached the peak of performance in an

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Speaker 2: intimate experience. I'm you know, I'm trying to keep this

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Speaker 2: a little bit PG, and this dude basically is not

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Speaker 2: up for the challenge.

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Speaker 1: Does it sounds to me like you.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to have to do any work or investigation

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Speaker 2: or anything, which isn't that part of a new relationship anyway?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that that can be daunting, but

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Speaker 2: not everyone's the same. But Willow, I mean, what, you've

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Speaker 2: been very quiet throughout this whole thing.

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm like very embarrassed, and I'm very mad that

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Speaker 4: that's the reason I like chose to be vulnerable with you,

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Speaker 4: because like, and that's like why you're deciding to like

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Speaker 4: judge me and not even like, I mean, we haven't

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Speaker 4: even been on a date. This is crazy, like like

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Speaker 4: we to me, it like doesn't make any sense, Like

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Speaker 4: I've tried and I'm not difficult, but I was just

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Speaker 4: trying to be vulnerable with you and then now it's

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Speaker 4: I mean, I can't believe you right now.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, have you ever had a guy, uh disqualify you

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Speaker 2: or have an interest in sort of going there with

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Speaker 2: you when you share this information?

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Speaker 1: Or is this the first time?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't.

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Speaker 4: Think I've ever shared this early before, and I guess

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Speaker 4: I'll never do that again. But this is no I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 4: I think the problem is most guys don't care one

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Speaker 1: Oh I hate that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate that too. I do think there are

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Speaker 2: I mean, from my female friends and you guys and whatever.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think there are guys out there that

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Speaker 2: really care, and there are guys that that really don't.

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Speaker 4: True.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like Jake doesn't want to put in the

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Speaker 2: work though, And I get Jake, I get that it

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Speaker 2: could be daunting, like if someone tells me it's never happened.

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Speaker 2: I hear your points, but like I don't know that.

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Speaker 2: It's the reason why I wouldn't even try if I

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Speaker 5: It's not that I don't want to put in the work.

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Speaker 5: I just don't want to put in the work if

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Speaker 5: it's not going to go anywhere. Like I just like

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Speaker 5: I'm happy to learn.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, everyone's new. All the other guys probably are

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Speaker 5: I mean, like, I think she's probably been faking it,

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Speaker 5: which is also a big problem.

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Speaker 2: For a while, they've been figured it with me, they've

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Speaker 2: been figured they'd be faking it. I mean, let's let's

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Speaker 2: not let's like get ourselves here.

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Speaker 8: I do think it's important for women to try and

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Speaker 8: explore their own bodies, if I can say that on

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Speaker 8: the air, And I'm not like shaming you for not

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Speaker 8: being able to figure that out yet, but it certainly

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Speaker 8: is important because we are a little more complicated.

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Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, I'm sure it helps to know

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Speaker 2: what you like so that you can communicate that to

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Speaker 2: your partner. But at the same time, I think if

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Speaker 2: your partner cared enough, then maybe you could do that together.

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Speaker 2: And anybody doesn't sound like he wants to do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so well there's the answer. Like you were vulnerable, you

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Speaker 2: shared some information that was very honest. I don't think

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Speaker 2: you shoud feel bad about that. Yeah, Jake's not he's

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Speaker 2: not down for it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm not downboard either.

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Speaker 2: Now yeah, okay, all right, Well, hey Jake, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, I guess no sweat off your back because

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Speaker 2: you you weren't going to talk to her anymore, and

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Speaker 2: now she has an answer as to why.

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Speaker 8: And I'll send you a link girl, okay, because I'm

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Speaker 8: like worry, like I want to help her out too.

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Speaker 1: I'm not incident, but hey, how you going to help?

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Speaker 1: How you go help Kik? I'd like to hear more

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Speaker 1: about that. How do you intend to offer your services? Right? Like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I don't have services for her.

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Speaker 2: I mean we are a full service operator around here.

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Speaker 2: We've been known to do a lot of things for

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Speaker 2: our audience. But like, wow, Keiki, that's very kind of

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Speaker 2: you to offer to be a tutor.

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Speaker 8: Surely somebody right out there a products that might send

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Speaker 8: a link for you know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, you know the ladies will take over from

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Speaker 1: here and