1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: And we are back. 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 3: I am Dale Lollly, he is v Matt Williamson and 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 3: this is to start an hour number two of the 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 3: Drive here. Yeah, big, big fantasy football weekend, lots of 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: drafts going on every one to night, and you got 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 3: one tonight picking out of the eleven hole. 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 2: I know which I really dislike. So let's let's take 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: at it. I want you to look at this. I 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: want your help. We are using the There's. If Garrett 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: Wilson Ray J. Brown makes it there, they're like my 14 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 2: nine to ten player, I'll be pretty happy, but if 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 2: they don't, it's going to be miserable. And the one 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: that really worries me is the fourteenth spot, that early 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: second yeah, because those guys definitely aren't going to be there, 18 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: and we'll get Let's get to it, because I'm concerned. 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: We're using a draft wizard on fantasypros dot Com, as 20 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: we often. 21 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: Do, speaking of which I know you've mentioned to me, 22 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: but I never did it. But I was fiddling with 23 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: it last night and I sinked our league and I 24 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: sink this league. Yeah, it's a pretty cool situation. I 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: urge people check it out. 26 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, imports your yeah settings. 27 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: And your settings and all that. And I can pick 28 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 2: between the two leagues. If I know a mock, I'm. 29 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 3: Like, all right, cool, Yeah, uh so Cupid shuffle picking 30 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 3: at one or cup and shuffle. I guess it is picked. 31 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey, The Man Taylorian took ceed Lamb at two. 32 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: Have a Mari Christmas took uh tyrd You Kill at three, 33 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 3: Hot Daubs Time Machine took Jean Robinson at four. Have 34 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: a Murray Christmas took Jamar Chase at five. Henry Thing 35 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: as Possible took Brees Saw at six. Laporta Potties. Ah, 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: that's good took Sakwan Barkley at seven. 37 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: Good because he's not one of my top eleven. At eight, 38 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: it's noting like that could definitely happen. Yeah and me, 39 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: especially if they're on those running backs. 40 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: Jamiir I Go Again at eight took Monro Saint Brown 41 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: knew he wasn't a fall Captain Jamerica back to back. 42 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: Jamiir Gibbs References took Justin Jefferson at nine and for 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 3: Kyron out Loud at ten, took Garrett Wilson. 44 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: Okay, so that leaves me A J. Brown. 45 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: A J. Brown is there, Jonathan Taylor is there? 46 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm taking Brown. Okay, easily enough there. That was 47 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: one of the ones. That's the NOE planner. 48 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 3: Dude, where's your Jamar is the twelfth spot? 49 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: All right? Okay, that's my nemesis. 50 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: He took Marvin Harrison and Pukinakua. Good So Jamiir Gibbs 51 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 3: still there, Jonathan Taylor there, DeVante Adams. 52 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: I think Gibbs over Taylor. Gibbs is like my consolation 53 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 2: prize at eleven. Okay, that's what I've decided. And then 54 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: if I get to that point, I'm a little you know, 55 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: it's a PPR Twoh, Gibbs catch the ball time, all right? 56 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: Gibbs is a picture. So that worked out. I would 57 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: take that right now. I mean if I would definitely 58 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 2: take that. 59 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 3: Now you get along. Wait though, that's the tough part 60 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: of it, right, So the pics are right ahead of you, Jaylem, Wattell, 61 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: Alvin Kamara, Rashad. 62 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 2: White, quick question. I don't make you crazy, but I 63 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 2: think there's a twenty percent chance my man a Chan 64 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: gets back in the third round. Yeah, that's not gonna 65 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: happened yet. I'm say I think there's a long shot 66 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 2: it happens. But that's a no brainer for me. 67 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 3: Yeah he went to eleven. 68 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: Okay, So now I don't have any rules or guidelines, 69 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: but I don't hate it from this point on, and 70 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: I felt like I got lucky in the first two rounds. 71 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: Quarterbacks available Lamar Jackson, Anthony Richardson, CJ. Shroud, Kyler Murray 72 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: probably will wait. Running backs. Top running backs available Joe Mixon, 73 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker, James Connor, Aaron. 74 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: Jones, Jones and Walker of Interest. 75 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: Wide receivers Cooper Cup, Nico Collins, Mike Evans, Deebo, Samuel. 76 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: Niko would probably be my choice of those top. 77 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: Tight ends available, Sam Laporta, Trey McBride, Mark Andrews, Dalton Kincaid. 78 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: What would you do? Mm, I don't There's no one 79 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: like just jumping off the board to me. Now, I 80 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: can live with a hero running back build if I 81 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: don't take it back in one of these two picks. 82 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: But it's gonna be a bad one. I mean, you 83 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: know what I mean? If I'm gonna do that. I 84 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: might as well take la porter or quarterback or I 85 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: don't know. I kind of lean towards Cooper Cup at 86 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 2: that spot. Okay, I like Nico better, but I think 87 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: a receiver is this is the pig one. Yeah, Cups fine. 88 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even necessarily care what player. I'm 89 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: thinking more of the build that didn't twelve go running back, 90 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: running back. You want receiver, receiver, and they just but yeah, 91 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: he's probably gona go running backrunning. Yeah, that's fine. Though 92 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 2: there's there was two. I was fine with Cups fine, 93 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: or Nico. Take Nico calls, I have him higher. We'll 94 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 2: take Nico. 95 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: Collins, Sam Laporta, and Mike Evans went with the next 96 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: two picks. 97 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: I was not gonna go tight end. 98 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: So you want one of those running. 99 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: Backs, pick between Jones and Walker. I'd take Walker. I 100 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: think he's quite happy with that early fourth. Yeah, yeah, 101 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: good young player. Now we wait and. 102 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: A defensive minded head coach. They're probably gonna run the 103 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: ball more than people. 104 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: All the blurbs out of there have not made it 105 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: even sound like it's close to it. Running back off. 106 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: Well, and here's the next thing. So Aaron Jones is 107 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: still there at five to eleven for you. 108 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: He would be our flex in this league. It's hard 109 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 2: to pass up. I'm sure there's receivers. 110 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 3: You're looking at Rashie Rice, A Flowers, Terry McLaurin, T Higgins, 111 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: Tank Dell, Deontay Johnson. 112 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: Rice is my favorite, but I think Jones is a 113 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: better pick. 114 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: The tight end you're looking at, Evan Ingram, Kyle Pitts, 115 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: George Kettle, Jake Ferguson. That's starting to dry up a little. 116 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, number twelve took a tight end, though. We can 117 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 2: cross that bridge in a minute. 118 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 3: Kin Cabe went just ahead of your spot. 119 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: Quarterback. 120 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 3: You're looking at Anthony Richardson, Joe Burrow, Dak Prescott, Jordan Love. 121 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: They could go Aaron Jones. Okay, Aaron Jones, it is 122 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: I'll probably take another receiver high, but that's a backup. Now. 123 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: He took Swift and Anthony Richardson. 124 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna. I was strongly considering Richardson. I 125 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: like him Love too, I too. I think we could 126 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: wait these twenty four picks. 127 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: Wide receiver you're looking at, Yeah, yeah, okay, she Rice 128 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: as your pick. 129 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: So now I actually have a bench spot filled. Yeah, 130 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 2: which I don't. 131 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: You still don't have a quarterback in the tight end, 132 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 3: right right, all right, you're back up again. I'm sure 133 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: Pitts is gone, and Love went to the top quarterbacks available, 134 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels to a tagle Vila calla Williams, you'r GoF. 135 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: He probably won't take one, but I think Daniels is 136 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: the pick. Who's the best tight. 137 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 3: End he has Evan Ingram, Jake Ferguson, David and Joku 138 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: brock Bowers. 139 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: I think we got to do it this year this round, 140 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: like Ingram Daniels, and that's not really good value for either. 141 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: But I don't want to wait anymore. 142 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,119 Speaker 3: Which one you want to go first? 143 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: Ingram? Okay, I can't imagine I'll take two quarterbacks. I 144 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: might prefer Jake Ferguson, and I was thinking about that too. 145 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,119 Speaker 2: Which one's going to score more touchdowns? Probably Ferguson. Probably 146 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: Ingram had so many targets last year. I get it, 147 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: but saw it would not have minded him at all. 148 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: So you're taking Daniels with the next pick? Then? 149 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: All right, Jaden and Daniels it is in eighth round. 150 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 2: That area didn't go well for me, I probably should 151 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: have passed on Racehie Rice. All right, back up again. 152 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: Top receivers available Brian Thomas, lab Maconkee, Marquise Brown, Jordan Edison. 153 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: Probably not a bad idea that you did take her. 154 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: She raise, He was the best value. 155 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: He was shocked. He lasted that long. I'm a big 156 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: Brian Thomas believer in this neighborhood, but I don't know 157 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: if I need a backup backup receiver. 158 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: Running backs Ezekiel, Elliott, Nick Chubb, Chewba Hubbard's Zach Charbonney 159 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 3: Walk Since you took Walker, do you take That's an 160 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: easy one, right, Yeah, yeah, that would be my move. 161 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Now you've got Seattle's backfield like a one week 162 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: a year. I'm not starting a Seattle back Yeah. Cool. 163 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: Take it back up again here. 164 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: Top suggested player Lemon Conkey, Zeke Elliott, Jake Ferguson. 165 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: Ferguson, still there, Jake Ferguson, still there. I think I'm 166 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: fine with that, okay, and maybe it just will become 167 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: clear in week three or four you will start, you know. Yeah, 168 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: Now they're not using Ingram like last year. Oh well, 169 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: I'm all right, all. 170 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: Right, eleventh round, you're up top top players, suggested Romeo Dobbs, 171 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 3: Rashid Chihi, Hy Chandler, you have Aaron Jones, Caleb boy. 172 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: I didn't think of that part, and I don't even 173 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: care that much about handcuffing, but it's I would it 174 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: might have taken them anyway. 175 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: Both of those guys have standalone value, right, like not 176 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 3: to the level of Jaylen Warren. 177 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: No, no, but similarly similarly like when you said Charbona, 178 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I'm glad he's still there and I 179 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: walk her and even just now with with Chandler, it's like, 180 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 2: I think I'd take him there no matter what. And 181 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: did I have Jones? Yeah, sign me up. 182 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like him better than any of the other 183 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 3: potential guys. 184 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: That are still in that neighborhood. I take him a lot. 185 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: Now, we'll say Marshawn Lloyd Ray Davis, Khalil Herbert also 186 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 3: still available at running back. 187 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: Does that change your thinking any Not? Really, Chandlers at 188 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: their level were better for me. Okay, Andy's my guy, 189 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: you know, all right? Ty Chandler, it is so you're 190 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: locked in. You've got Seattle in Minnesota cornered, which could 191 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: be good. 192 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't look at the bi weeks. Maybe they're 193 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 3: off the same way I usually don't. All right, now 194 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: you're up at twelve two. Caleb Williams, Rashichi he, Brandon Cooks, 195 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: Ray Davis the top suggested players. 196 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: The backup quarterback might be, Oh, I have Jayden Davis. 197 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,239 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams to Attago Vila, Trevor Lawrence, Jearret Goff. 198 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: Lawrence Okay Bingo. Yeah, I'm a Lawrence believer this year. 199 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: I think he's got good weapons. I think he'll run. 200 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: I think he's had some bad luck. Ray Davis was 201 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: the next picky. He definitely was in consideration. 202 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so you're done at quarterback and tight end. 203 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: Running backs Khalil Herbert, Bucky Irving, Braylan Allen, Rashawn Johnson. 204 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: Those are the top guys available. Why do Herbert get 205 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: traded to Dallas? Yeah? This is what people you know, 206 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 2: that's the thing people were holding out on. 207 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: Rashid Shah, Jalen Polk to, Mario Douglas, Michael Wilson. The 208 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 3: top receivers available one Dell Robinson there, Rashaw Bateman, she. 209 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: Heed's a sort of attract Xavier Legate and it's got 210 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 2: to be one of those beat receivers. Any names jumping 211 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: out at you. 212 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: Not really, Alexander Madison, Kendeh Camani, Vadal, Damian Pierce, you almost. 213 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: Maybe Shaheed at least he's number two. You could just 214 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: take best defense. 215 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,359 Speaker 3: Well, the defense is available, the Steelers, Chiefs, Bills, Texans. 216 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: I went to Steelers. D Okay, I think they're gonna 217 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: get a lot of access here. 218 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: Ye all right, Now you back up again here and 219 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: she heat is still there them all right, she heat 220 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 3: it is. 221 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: This is not that it matters that much, but this 222 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: league is weird to get bonus prize for longer touchdown. Okay, 223 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: well that makes sense, and you know, yeah, all right, 224 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: but then that you take the more explosive guy. 225 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 3: Fifteenth round, you still got you got one pick left 226 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: after this one. 227 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: You have best running back available. That's just best available. 228 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: Like I mean, if like Jared Goff is still there, 229 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take. 230 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: Him, Wan Dale Robinson, Rashaw Bateman, Alexander Madison, Tank Bigsby. 231 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 2: Things. We had a good preseason. 232 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford is there, Deshaun Watson, Gino Smith, Baker Mayfield. 233 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna end up cutting this person. 234 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, unless it's a high 235 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: upside young guy that you think. 236 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna be Bigsby with the hopes that at 237 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 2: M gets hurt in. 238 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: The first I'm not even seeing that guy available here, Like, well, 239 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: some a GP Ryan is there? 240 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: Hm, we think he's the two, right, Yeah, he doesn't 241 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 2: have to be good, and he might. He's gonna be 242 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: the pass catching back in Kansas City, Sign me up? 243 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: Why not the way Pacheco runs? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's 244 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: not bad. I don't know if he'd ever be at 245 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: the same workload if the checko were out, but. 246 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: If he gets but it would go all the fifteen 247 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 3: touches in that offense line. 248 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, all right, now you're up. 249 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: You got to take a kicker, and so the top 250 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: guy available Brandon Aubrey. Yeah right, Brandon Aubrey, Jason Sanders, 251 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 3: Jake Moody, those are all. 252 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: Aubrey I think, is like, yeah, so I think Aubrey's 253 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: like the best kicker in the league. 254 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got four solid options there. Yeah, all right, 255 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: the draft is completing. Everybody took kickers late. You got 256 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 3: an eighty three out of one hundred. 257 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: Quarterback's problematic. Yeah. 258 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, here's how they break down your roster. Overall, you 259 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: have the six best roster. Your starters are fourth best, Okay, 260 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: bench six best. 261 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: The quarterback in the bench. 262 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, quarterback is eleventh. 263 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, surprise on twelve. 264 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 3: Running back fifth, wide receiver, eighth, tight end sixth Okay, 265 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: flex player is sixth. Defense, special team six, kicker second. 266 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: My biggest problem other than quarterback isn't great. I didn't 267 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: take enough big swings like that roster looks like the 268 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: team that comes in fourth might as well coming last, 269 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah, Like, Walker's fine, and 270 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 2: I mean the guys I like, obviously we wouldn't have 271 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: taken them, But who could win the league for me? 272 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels? Could Jayden Daniels could? 273 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 3: I mean if he's he runs for one thousand yards 274 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: and throws for. 275 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: Thirty five hundred Yeah, yeah, ends up in the end zone. 276 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: A handful of you know, a bunch. He was the one. 277 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: It was like, that's why I took him ahead of 278 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: some of the boring golf types. Yeah yeah. 279 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 3: Outside of that, I mean, could uh Jamior Gibbs blow 280 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: up this year? David Montgomery a thing? 281 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: He's still a thing. You know, could Kenneth Walker blow up? 282 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 2: Yeah he could, he could. Yeah, I might saying none 283 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: of them could be good, you know, but that's that's 284 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 2: kind of a chan Anthony Richardson way I look at things. Yeah, 285 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: I don't want to come in second. I don't want 286 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: to come in fifth, you know, and have a really 287 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 2: good year, doesn't pay the bills. 288 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: She rice in the sixth round. 289 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: Could Yeah he could be a thing. Yeah, especially if 290 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: Kelsey goes backwards. Yeah, that's who he's competing with. 291 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 3: And I had a lot of red zone targets, last targets. 292 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: He's still going too late. Yeah. I think he's going 293 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: to lead that team interceptions, good chance. Yeah, and that's 294 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: a good team. The leading herself significant Yeah, I mean 295 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: something definitely significant. Yeah. 296 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: That's uh, well, not the worst draft, No, not the best. 297 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: I would probably go fish, but the first two picks 298 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: are what I'm most worried about, and they went my way. Yeah, 299 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: after that, I didn't love things. He is Matt Williamson. 300 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: I am Dale. 301 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: Welly, you're listening to the draft here on the Steelers 302 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: Audio Network. That was a mock draft, with Matt picking 303 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 3: eleventh in his mock draft, which he'll do tonight. 304 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so we'll see. 305 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 3: We'll see Tuesday how he came out of that one. 306 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we will one to talk about. 307 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: Too, absolutely, but we're going to get to another break. 308 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 3: He is Matt Williamson. 309 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. 310 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. 311 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: We'll be back with more right after this. 312 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 313 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black 314 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: and GOLDNR Steelers Nation Radio. 315 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. 316 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt looking here on 317 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: ESPN plus. Ben Solik from ESPN has put together his 318 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 3: X factors for the twenty twenty four season key players 319 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 3: for all thirty two teams. 320 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: I thought we'd go through that. Yeah, he does really 321 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: good work too. He's a young guy, but he's on 322 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: top of things. 323 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: You want to start with the Steelers, you want to 324 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: go all right, So his X factor. 325 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: Who would be yours? 326 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: I can't really disagree with his pick of Russell Wilson's 327 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: and Justin Fields just because it's quarterback position. 328 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: He's but yeah, he says he tends to not like 329 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: to do that. Here's what he said, though I don't 330 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: think he takes a lot of the easy way out. 331 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so listen, I don't want to be writing about 332 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 3: Wilson fields right now. I want to write about sophomore 333 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: jump from Keanu Benton. I want to write about the 334 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: return of pet Ten and Pat Matt Friermouth to the offense, 335 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 3: or the development of offensive tackle Broderick Jones. Or we're 336 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 3: forgetting about how good Minka Fitzpatrick is. We're talking about 337 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: the emergency Joey Porter Junior a lot of good. 338 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah right, those are fun storylines. 339 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: Yeah right. 340 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: Let we talk about that all day long. 341 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: Instead, I must be honest and admit that functional quarterlay 342 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: is such a big deal in Pittsburgh. Then I will 343 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: break my non quarterback rule and focus on Wilson and fields. 344 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: He said. 345 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 3: I know for a fact that this is a playoff 346 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: caliber roster because Mike Tomlin has dragged to the playoffs 347 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 3: a year over year despite intolerable play. If Kenny Pickett, 348 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: Duck Hodges, Mason Rudolph, late career Ben Roethlisberger, if Wilson 349 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: the week one started can provide value as a deep 350 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: ball artists or quick game distributor. It will help the 351 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: Steelers go from funny place story do actual playoff threat. 352 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: I like the way he phrased all that. Yeah, I 353 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: think that's really well written and a good angle on 354 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: it all. 355 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: If he can't, then perhaps fields legs, which kept a 356 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 3: poor Chicago offense as afloat, will do the same thing 357 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh. As long as the Steelers get, say, the 358 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 3: twentieth best quarterback play in the league this season, they 359 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: should be a double digit win team. 360 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 2: That sounds like a lot of stuff we've been saying. Yeah, 361 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: I mean, we're not asking for Josh Allen level play. 362 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: I don't need I got to be in the MVP race. 363 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: But if you have the twentieth best quarterback play in 364 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: this for seventeen games, I think they win double digit games. 365 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: And I think they're certainly capable of getting that. Yeah, 366 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: I think Wilson still has that in him. 367 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not top ten Russ anymore. 368 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: Probably not. I bet he's better than Denver Russ. Yeah, 369 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: I do believe that. 370 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 3: I know he's going to be better than what they've 371 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 3: ran out there last year. 372 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: I could also write a story and I'm not implying 373 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: that he should be the starter that they could win 374 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: ten games with fields and just run the ball like 375 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: insane people, you know, I mean, I mean, just really play. 376 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 2: You'd have to live with more mistakes. There'd be more mistakes, 377 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: but I mean the run pass percentage would be really 378 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: high on one direction. Yeah, and the defense is top five, 379 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: like we think. I mean, so that whole room it 380 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 2: is the X factor. Yeah. I could make up something 381 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: like if Cam Hayward's one of the best defensive linemen 382 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 2: in the league, again, they'll be the best defense. But 383 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 2: he's not going to be bad. 384 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: No, he's not going to be a liability out better 385 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: than he was last year. Yeah, right, or right, because 386 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 3: I thought last year he was about seventy five percent 387 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 3: less than what he was previous year. 388 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe even less. And even like you can often 389 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 2: like cite a first round pick. That's a huge X factor. 390 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: I mean the line in general, because we've seen a 391 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: couple of injuries. It's making me more nervous than it 392 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 2: did a month ago. But has to be was the 393 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: X fact. Yeah, yeah, you know, but it has to 394 00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 2: be the quarterback room. 395 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 3: Looking at the rest of the division. For the Ravens, 396 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 3: it's offensive tackle Ronnie Stanley. 397 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: I mean, talk aboutn X factor. Yeah, it could go 398 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 2: either way. 399 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 3: You just so the Ravens offensive line wasn't great overall 400 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 3: last year. I think it's a misnomer that it was 401 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 3: because they ran the ball. 402 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a lot of that scheme and Lamar. 403 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: And Yeah, but it survived despite stanley struggles. In twenty 404 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 3: twenty four, right tackle Morgan Moses is gone. Right guard 405 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 3: Kevin Zeitler's gone, left guard John Simpson has gone. That's 406 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: two thousand seven and forty four offensive line snaps out there. 407 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: That's the way you gotta look at it. Yeah, that's 408 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 2: where you gotta replace that. You got to replace that 409 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 2: with Filele and Rosy Garden and right. No, but you 410 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: don't want to have to replace the left tackle now. 411 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: Right if he's a part time player for them again 412 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 3: this year. 413 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're in trouble or a liability. Yeah, he doesn't 414 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: have to be the guy you signed. I mean he 415 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: that was a top five trending that way. Everyone on 416 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: the planet would have given that left tackle yunny, you 417 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: know at that time, at that time. Yeah, he does 418 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 2: not do that guy, but he can't be bad. Yeah, 419 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: So that's a that's a great example, Uh, for Cincinnati, 420 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 2: I'd even throw in like away, you know, and some 421 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 2: of those type of. 422 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 3: Dudes Cincinnati at safety Gino Stone. 423 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean if Gino Stone flops, it doesn't mean 424 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: the season shot though. 425 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 3: No, but he's not gonna be He's not gonna go 426 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: out and get eight interceptions or whatever he end. 427 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: No, I bet I bet the write up says if 428 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 2: he could stabilize the safety position, because they do ask 429 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: him a lot mentally. Yeah, okay, I get it. You 430 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 2: don't want to say like Burrow's health. I mean that's boring. No, 431 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: that's boring. Yeah. 432 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 3: For the Browns, well, he goes to the quarterback. Well, 433 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: again it's de Shaan Watson. 434 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: There's a handful of teams or you just have you 435 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: have to, you have to. Yeah, And it is because 436 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: the rest of the ros Crooks pretty are good, you know. 437 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 2: I mean if he was what if he's the twentieth 438 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: best kid Nick Chubb there though as well. Yeah, he's 439 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: kind of out of sight, out of mind for me. Yeah, 440 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 2: I'm not expecting him to do anything like I see people. 441 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: Well he's you know, Chub's gonna be out four weeks. No, 442 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: it's it's a minimum of four weeks. Oh yeah, I 443 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 2: mean that's he has to be out thought four weeks. 444 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 2: He may not play at all this year, right, there's 445 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: no guarantee. No same question. Then, let's say Deshaun Watson 446 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: plays seventeen games this year and is the twentieth best 447 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: quarterback in the league. Do they win double digit games? 448 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: I think yes. I don't know if they do. 449 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 3: I think they get to ten then, because here's the thing, 450 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: they're paying him to play much better than that. 451 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not talking about Chase. I don't know that 452 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: they're gonna be able to run the ball effectively. Oh, 453 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: I don't think I have the normal run game. Yeah. 454 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 3: I mean if they had Chubb and he's the twentieth 455 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: best quarterback, then I agree with you. 456 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, a healthy Chub. So I think we agree. 457 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: Which is a pretty strong statement that the Steelers have 458 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 2: a better running game than the Browns. Yes, I think 459 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 2: that's true. It probably was true the last six games 460 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: or whatever last year too. 461 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: Again, last ten games games, last ten games the last season, 462 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 3: they average one hundred and forty rushing yards per game. 463 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: Was that first or second during that second in the 464 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 2: league over the whole year? Yeah, yeah, Okay, without Chubb, 465 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: I think the Series are a better running game than Browns. 466 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: I don't think ten games is crazy to say if 467 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 2: they get the twentieth best quarterback play though not they Yeah, 468 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: he has waged, hasn't shown that he's capable of that. 469 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: Kind of the difference to your point is now they're 470 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 2: catering the offense to him, right, three wides throw it 471 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: more and if he's the worst part of that, you 472 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: don't hide the quarterback as much. Yeah, you know you're 473 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 2: angling with there. Yeah. 474 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 3: Looking at some of the other stuff from around the league. 475 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 3: Here in Arizona, it's edge rushers, Aven Collins. 476 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, everything on defense. 477 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 3: Uh, defensive tackle Kobe Turner for the Rams. 478 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: He's not going to be Donald, but he better not 479 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 2: turn into a pumpkin. 480 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 3: Either, right, Yeah. Trent Williams and San Francisco. Yeah, what 481 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 3: happens there. Tariq Woolen in Seattle. 482 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,239 Speaker 2: Okay, he was really good. A rookie can bounce back 483 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: and they get the most out. 484 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 3: For Dallas, it's linebacker Demarvian Overshawn. 485 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: I think he's the green dot every down guy, which 486 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 2: is scary. That's the next factor. I think that's a 487 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 2: good one. That's not where you want to be on that. 488 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 3: For the Giants' is rookie cornerback Deonte Banks. 489 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. They're really young in the secondary too. 490 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. Philadelphia center Cam Jurgens, it's got a big shoes. 491 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, big shoes. 492 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 3: For Washington, it's wide receiver Diami Brown. 493 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: Although I think that's part of the reason they traded Dodson. 494 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: I think this kid's coming into his own He's to 495 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 2: be a starter. We'll see. 496 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 3: For Chicago, it's defensive tackle Gervin Dexter. 497 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, talented, but the way's away at least last year. 498 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 3: In Detroit, it's wide receiver Jamison Williams. 499 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, now he's down on them. 500 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: Green Bay is safety Xavier McKinney. 501 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: When you invest what you did and you know. 502 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 3: Draft yeah yeah yeah. 503 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: Uh. 504 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 3: From Minnesota, it's edge rusher Jonathan Greener. He could have 505 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 3: gone quarterback there. 506 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: Too, sure, or like Interiro line. Yeah. Uh. 507 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 3: For the Falcons who the Steelers playing the opener, it's 508 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 3: edge rusher Matthew Judon. 509 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw today. The last time they had double 510 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: digit guy with sacks was Vic Beasley in like twenty eighteen. 511 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: It was twenty seventeen. It was a seventeen Yeah, and 512 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 2: their sack leaders last year were Bud Depre and Klais Campbell, 513 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: who aren't back. Yeah, ten and a half six and 514 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 2: uh For the Carolina is that in there? What's that? 515 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: Did you just read that? No? Oh? Okay, so maybe 516 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: that was in there where I's where I saw it from. Okay. 517 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 3: For the Panthers, it's uh Kwanu, the offensive tackle. 518 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they they need him to be good. Yeaeah. I 519 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 2: don't thinky messed him up or he messed himself up 520 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: because he had showed a lot of promise and now 521 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: he's been horrendous. 522 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 3: For the Saints, it's offensive tackle Trevor Penning. 523 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: I think he's a shot. Him and Neil with the Giant, 524 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: I think are just boss. 525 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 3: For Tampa Bay, cornerback Zion McCollum. 526 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 2: Okay, they'd lost what's his face to the Bucks. 527 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: For the Denver Broncos at center Luke Wattenberg. 528 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 2: That might be a worse center situation in the league, 529 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: unless he's a better player than I know, which is 530 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: quite possible. They let Kushienberry go. Yeah. Uh yeah. For 531 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: the Chiefs is cornerback Trent mcduffee. Okay, but I think 532 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: we know what he is now, I don't know that 533 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 2: he's a wild card X factor. Uh. 534 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 3: The Raiders is a mere white at running back. 535 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but what if he trends the wrong way? They don't. 536 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 3: They don't have anything else he can't. For the Chargers, 537 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 3: it's running back JK. 538 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: Dobbins. Yeah, maybe he's good. Maybe maybe. I mean, if 539 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 2: he is, wow, that'd be great. I'm not expecting it, 540 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 2: but wow. 541 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: For the Bills, it's tight end Dalton Kincaid, Morens Plate. 542 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 3: For the Dolphins, every day defensive tackle. 543 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: That's perfect. 544 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 3: Here's their tackles, Benido Jones, Zach Siler, Jonathan Harris, Deshaun hand. 545 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: Siler's the player, like if we covered the Dolphins movie, like, 546 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: he's better than you think. You know, he's a good 547 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: quality dude. The rest of the guys are problematic, but 548 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: Silo would be a good number two. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 549 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: he's a Ogan Joe be at best. I mean yeah, 550 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 2: I mean, like, he's not who you build things around. 551 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 3: For the Patriots, offensive tackle Vederian Lowe, Okay, that's low low, 552 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 3: low bar. 553 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 2: You go a lot of different places on that one. 554 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 3: For the Jets, edge rusher Hassan Reddick, who's doing a 555 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 3: Trent Williams right now, and they trade it for him, 556 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 3: and he's still not in camp or not with the team. 557 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 3: He wants a new contract and they're not giving it there. 558 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: But they traded for him. They didn't give him a contract. Yeah, 559 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: why do they think he was happy with the one 560 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: they traded for. 561 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 3: It just boggles my mind. 562 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes no sense at all. I wonder if 563 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: he ends up in Chicago or something. 564 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 3: For the Texans, it's linebacker Aziz al Shayer. 565 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean they want to install that Niners like 566 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 2: defense and he has a history for the corner. 567 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 3: The Colts, it's cornerback Juju Brents. 568 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're counting on to be a starter, second round pick, 569 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: talented guy. 570 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 3: The Jaguars, it's edge rusher Travon Walker. 571 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: You hope he explodes. Dont be worth the first overall pick, 572 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 2: but he's shown glimpses For. 573 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 3: The Titans, cornerback Lugerious Snead. 574 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: I'd say also the way he invested them there. 575 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 3: He spent a lot of money on him and he 576 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 3: gave up draft capital. Better be good, He better be good. 577 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: He better be worth what you gave up. 578 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: He could change your defense. He could, he could. That 579 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: is uh that's Ben Solix. That's a good list X 580 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 2: factor Yeah, well done. 581 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's some good stuff on there. And anybody else 582 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 3: for the Steelers that you would look at and say 583 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 3: that we. 584 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: Didn't mention had a tough time with them. I mean, 585 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: like maybe the old line as a whole and how the. 586 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 3: Pieces could be the X factor. 587 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought about that too. Or can Jefferson be 588 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: better than you think? Or could Roman Wilson be on 589 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: a field a lot by week eight that could change 590 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 2: to the offense trajectory a little bit. Yeah. Part of 591 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 2: me this kind of thinks, how do the O line 592 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: pieces all fit together? And hopefully no other pieces break? 593 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: You know. 594 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean there's there's a lot of good 595 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 3: ones there, but yeah, more much closer to this thing. 596 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, Like I thought about Peyton Wilson, you know, like, yeah, 597 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: could he be a real difference maker? And because he 598 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: shows signs of that, I don't think it's crazy to 599 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: bring it up. But if he isn't and he's rotating, 600 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: he'll probably be okay, Yeah, yeah, I mean it could 601 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 2: be Dante Jackson could be Dante Jackson. Yeah, what if 602 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: he's a solid two? Yeah, take it absolutely. 603 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 3: I mean if he's if he is a solid two 604 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 3: and you think Porter is the true is the same 605 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 3: number one type guy, all of a sudden that defense 606 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 3: might be number one in the LEA. 607 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: I tend to lean that way too. Yeah, so yeah, 608 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: that's good. 609 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: Let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson. 610 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the I've here on 611 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I'll be back to 612 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: finish up the show right after this. 613 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 614 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 615 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio. 616 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 2: Welcome back on Dale Lolli. 617 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 3: He is v Matt Williamson. And well, Matt, take a 618 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 3: look here. We promised we'd take a look at some 619 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 3: of these season long stuff here. 620 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 621 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, it looking here at some of the NFL betting 622 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 3: future odds for some of the major awards, MVP Award, 623 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 3: who you got this year? 624 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 2: I'm taking my homes and I understand that's boring, but 625 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: I expect him to have his best year to date, 626 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 2: which is a monster accomplishment, So that aside. I think 627 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 2: if I was putting money on it to pay off, 628 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 2: Burrow would be really high on my list. He's plus 629 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: nine fifty. I picked the Bills to win their Vision 630 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 2: and if they do. Allen had a superb year. 631 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: He's plus eight fifty. 632 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: And here's a weird one for you. If I were 633 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: to take an NFC player, it would be Jordan Love. 634 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: I was just gonna say that one. Okay, he's plus 635 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: fourteen hundred? Is he because I like. 636 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,239 Speaker 2: As good as golf is and if the Lions goes 637 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, I don't think he's like MVP type guy, 638 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 639 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: Is it weird that Lamar Jackson's plus two thousand. 640 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: He's further odds than Love. Yeah, that is weird. He's 641 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: won it twice, right, I mean maybe part of that 642 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: is voters are reluctant to give it to you a 643 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 2: third time, but pays off pretty well. Yeah, I think 644 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: that's too high. 645 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I Love with to Me is a 646 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: nice sleeper pick there. 647 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 2: In NFC one. There's not much competition there. 648 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 3: No, there really isn't. 649 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 2: NFL. Do you have a favorite? Not really the MVP world. 650 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I agree Mahome. 651 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: Should be the favorite. Oh, he should be the favorite 652 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 2: by far. 653 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 3: Looking at the NFL Defensive Player of the Year, Michaeh. 654 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 3: Parsons is plus five point fifty, as is TJ. Watt 655 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: leading the away with that. 656 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: See, I'm torn between the two. I'm unhappy that they're 657 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: the leaders in the clubhouse. I know Garrett's not gonna 658 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: be far off or Bosa. I don't know the raid. 659 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 3: Crosby's plus seven hundred, Garretts plus eight hundred, Bosa's plus 660 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 3: eight fifty. 661 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 2: See. I leaned towards Parsons to bet with my head 662 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: and not my heart because he hasn't gotten one yet. 663 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 2: And if they're splitting hairs, I. 664 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: Think the thing though, I think their defense is going 665 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 3: to be good enough. 666 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: I like the zimmers there, but I don't like the 667 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: rest of the defense all that much. Yeah. I didn't 668 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: want to say what, but I think that they're I 669 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: think he got the fact that he got jobbed on 670 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 2: the award last year. I think that helps. I think 671 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 2: that helps I do too. Yeah, And I think it's 672 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: not insane to say he might be the best player 673 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 2: on the best defense in the league, right, you know? 674 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: And Garrett might be two, you know, I mean that 675 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: he could be in that conversation again, but I doubt 676 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: he wins it back to back. I actually think the 677 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: Steelers might maybe three times this year, have a nice 678 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: lead near the end of the game and let him 679 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: pick up some cheepy sacks. 680 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yeah, especially early in the season. You 681 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 3: look at some of that, I. 682 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: Mean, yeah, right, I mean they play Washington at one point, 683 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: or I mean some game will. 684 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 3: Go their way, or you know, playing the Giants, you're playing, 685 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 3: you know, some of these teams, yeah, yeah, have some 686 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 3: offensive line issues, young quarterbacks that a team. 687 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 2: Were not thinking of late in the year. There are 688 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: ravens lines falling apart or something like that. 689 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, NFL Offensive Player of the Year, and again 690 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 3: this usually doesn't go to a quarterback. 691 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 2: I lean towards Tyreek. 692 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 3: Tyreek's the favorite physic plus seven hundred, Christan McCaffrey plus 693 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 3: eight fifty. 694 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure Lamb's high. 695 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 3: Lambs at plus one thousand. Those are the top three guys. 696 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm into the top three and fantasy picks too. 697 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: And I do think Chase could get in the equation. 698 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: He's plus twelve hundred if Burrows as good as I 699 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: think he might be. 700 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 3: I like Bjeon Robinson a plus eighteen hundred. 701 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: Wow, that's a nice one too. I was actually gonna 702 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: asked about how and Robinson, but I think Robinson's a 703 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 2: much better chance. 704 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: Hall is plus fifteen hundred. Sae Kwon Barkley at plus 705 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 3: twenty two hundred is not bad. 706 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 2: What Derrick Henry it's a long shot. I mean, I'm 707 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: just what if he scores fifteen touchdown. 708 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 3: He's plus five thousand. 709 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: I might put five bucks on that. Yeah, so but 710 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: the problem with him is he done. He's not going 711 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 2: to catch anything. He's not. But if they happen to 712 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 2: win thirteen games and he has leads the league in 713 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: touchdowns by a wide margin, and yeah, look at the 714 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 2: difference he's made. You know, he's splashy. No, he certainly is. 715 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: Bijeon would be my running back, not that I think 716 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 2: he's got a better chance to McCaffrey. But for the. 717 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 3: Payoff offensive Rookie of the year, Caleb Williams by far 718 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: the leaders. 719 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too much. I saw the odds on it 720 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: recently and he's almost like one to one. Yeah, Like, 721 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: if you give me the field I'm taking the field. 722 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels is plus five hundred. 723 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 724 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 3: I mean he again throws for three thousand yards and 725 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 3: runs for close to one thousand. 726 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean Neighbors at Harrison could catch a 727 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: ton of balls. 728 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 3: Neighbors is plus fourteen hundred. Harrison's plus six fifty. Bo 729 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 3: Nixes plus one thousand. 730 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 2: He's going to play a lot. Yeah for the buck, 731 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 2: I think I'd take Neighbors. 732 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 3: Pays well, it does. I mean to me, quarterbacks are 733 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 3: the lead, of course, yeah, they play, you know, most 734 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 3: of the games. I think Daniels and Knicks are both solids. 735 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: Any sneaky running backs, it's a really bad running back, 736 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: really is. 737 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 3: I mean you have to go way down. Blake Koram 738 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: is the leader there at plus seven seventy five hundred. 739 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I knew it wouldn't be Brooks or Benson. 740 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a tough one. 741 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Someone would have to get hurt week one, you know, 742 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 2: like Karen Williams or something. 743 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 3: Defensive Rookie of the year a lot too. 744 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 2: I think I said this on the year before the 745 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: day after the draft, they bet on a lot too. 746 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 3: He's plus four hundred. 747 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: He's the leader. He had a lot better odds on 748 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 2: it then. 749 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 3: Dallas Turners plus four fifty. 750 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. He's a double digitzach guy from day 751 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 2: one though. He's a lot of finass. 752 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 3: Jared versus plus one thousand. Yeah, Byron Murphy plus one thousand, 753 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 3: that's what I like. Terry and Arnold plus twelve hundred. 754 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,439 Speaker 3: Tough to win as a corner, it is. But yeah, 755 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 3: they're gonna be on TV a lot. 756 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: That's true. That's right, that's true. It takes a ball 757 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 2: away a couple of times or starts getting a lot 758 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 2: of credit in the national media. Yeah, yeah, I don't 759 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 2: off the ball linebackers week. I mean I doubt like Eddrian. 760 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 3: Cooper Wilson's plus three thousand. Yeah, he's tied with Nate 761 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: Wiggins for. 762 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 2: The what if Robert gets hurt or Wilson just makes 763 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 2: too many plays that you have to keep one. 764 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 3: He's actually the first off ball linebacker listed on here, 765 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 3: is he? 766 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean he was the most productive one in college, right, 767 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: I mean, Vegas doesn't care where you were drafted or 768 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 2: if he might not last five years. They don't care 769 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 2: about that stuff, you know, They just what do you 770 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: make an impact now. Yeah, he might make an impact 771 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 2: now and for a long time. Who knows. Yeah, that's 772 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 2: not terrible. I mean, two bucks on it. You know, 773 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 2: absolutely who you like for Coach of the Year. I 774 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 2: think it's the hardest one to predict that. 775 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 3: It really is. 776 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 2: It has to be somebody. Well, let's go back to 777 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 2: the first segment, our predictions. I mean, if the Lions 778 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: get to the Super Bowl, well, I think it's voted 779 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 2: on after the regular season. At the end of the 780 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 2: regular season. Yeah, the playoffs are not a factor. But 781 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: if they're the one seed in the NFC, could he 782 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,439 Speaker 2: get it or is that just meeting expectations and that's 783 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: not good enough. I think that's a little bit above expectation. 784 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 2: Isn't the one seed in the NFC is pretty soon? Yeah, 785 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 2: that would be pretty good. Yeah. 786 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 3: I think if Falcons win the AFC South or hem, 787 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 3: Morris will get Yeah. 788 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 2: I mean because he turned things around to some degree, 789 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: you know, they're go in the right direction. That's a 790 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 2: good one. Yeah. If they win ten games in a 791 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: bad schedule and two game lead in the South. What 792 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 2: if Carolina wins like six games, I don't think that'll 793 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 2: be enough. 794 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can I can see a lot of people 795 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 3: pushing for Jim Harbaugh. 796 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 2: If they win. 797 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 3: If they get the five hundred, they win seven, eight, 798 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 3: nine games. 799 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 2: I think nine might get it to him. I don't 800 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 2: see it happening. 801 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't either. 802 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 2: If one of those guys like a Harbaugh or a 803 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 2: Peyton gets to mediocrity, like they won nine games with 804 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 2: that roster, Yeah, that's a heck of a coach. Maybe 805 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 2: can Mike Tomlin win it? If they win, they have 806 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 2: to win the division. I think, yeah, he went division 807 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 2: he should, although Sefanski didn't. He's won. 808 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 3: Sefanski's won it twice without winning the division title. 809 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure why he went last year. I 810 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 2: don't think he should have. I don't either. Is it 811 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,919 Speaker 2: because they had four quarterbacks play? I guess. I mean 812 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 2: that's hard to overcome. Don't get me wrong. But you're 813 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 2: fourth in the division or your third in the division, Yeah, 814 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 2: I mean right, you still didn't win a playoff, like right, right? 815 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 2: Whi's a real good defense and you're the offensive guy. 816 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've won it twice without winning the division title. 817 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 3: It's crazy to me, And. 818 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 2: I don't think he's Shanahan scheming things up. On offense, 819 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 2: you know, like he's the offensive coordinator. Base. Any way 820 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 2: that Harbar or Taylor wins it, I don't see it. 821 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: I don't either, Like what would the Ravens have to do. 822 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 2: I mean, they were the best team in the league 823 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 2: last year in the regular. 824 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 3: Season, Like Andy Rio can't win it, right, right, there's 825 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 3: just the expectations that Shanahan can't win it. 826 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 2: I think Tomlin has the best chance in the division maybe, 827 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 2: which is weird. 828 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 3: I could see I could see people like if Cincinnati 829 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 3: goes out and wins thirteen games, I could see Zach 830 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 3: Taylor getting some. 831 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 2: If they're the one seed. Yeah, that'd be hard to deny. Yeah, 832 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 2: I mean they did finish last last year in the division. 833 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 2: I think the Steelers win the division. It'd be hard 834 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 2: to deny tom win. But otherwise everyone's would be like, 835 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 2: that's three DAWs every year. You know you could yeah, 836 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 2: the whole team, you get hurt and they win nine 837 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 2: or ten and get in the playoffs. Well he does 838 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 2: that every year. O. 839 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 3: The guy in Seattle could win it. 840 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, how about like Jacksonville or Indy, they 841 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 2: get to like ten wins, maybe you know, get some 842 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 2: bounces and their quarterbacks look like guys, because that's how 843 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 2: that's the kind of guy, that's how that ward go. Really, 844 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just trying to think as the voters think, 845 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 2: which isn't really doesn't mean it's the best coach in 846 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 2: the league. Yeah, I'm just I don't even see. 847 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 3: They don't even have odds on it here, which is 848 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 3: one of the they have odds on everything. 849 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 2: I would think it's Vegas. It'd be tough to handicap too, 850 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 2: it must be. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you could bet 851 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 2: it on somewhere, but it's got to be a tough 852 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 2: one to handicap. Yeah, I'm like, comeback player of the Year. 853 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 3: I don't even care about that one. 854 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 2: It shouldn't exist. 855 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 3: It really shouldn't. 856 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,760 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it could be looked at too many ways. 857 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well that's going to do it 858 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 3: for our shows are really are are pre It's like 859 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 3: making the season. 860 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 2: Next week we're into a game because we're thrust into 861 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 2: it a day early too. It's Tuesday, a game week 862 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 2: when we return. 863 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, but I can't wait for that. I won't 864 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 3: be here. However, on Friday, You'll he right, We'll have 865 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 3: Rob King sitting in with you. My my son is 866 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 3: getting married next Friday, so I won't be here to 867 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 3: So we're gonna the cram three days. 868 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,240 Speaker 2: Of the two of US Steelers Atlanta and an NFL 869 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 2: game on Thursday night. We can't wait. A great one too, 870 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 2: can't wait. Chiefs come on, man, but no backup starting, 871 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 2: you know? How about that? How about that? And the 872 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 2: game Friday as well? There's a game Friday. 873 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, green Bay, Philadelphia and Brazil. 874 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't remember. That's awesome. Yeah, not even on 875 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 2: this continent, but it is happening. Is they do the 876 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 2: back to back Monday night ors in week one again? 877 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 3: I believe they are. Yeah, okay, so lots of lots 878 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 3: of NFL football coming our way just around the corner. 879 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 2: Can't wait, yeah baby, But for my partner, are going 880 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 2: to change quick? Yeah? They really thought we knew out 881 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 2: the window right? Uh? For CJ. 882 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 3: Wolfley here on site keeping us on the air, I 883 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 3: am Dale, Lollie. We thank you for listening to this 884 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 3: edition of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.