Speaker 1: Like game on the world, you played to win the
Speaker 1: games a Jet toucksdown can't win your Listening to the
Speaker 1: Official Jets Podcast Jets three sixty production, Week fifteen of
Speaker 1: the NFL season is here Ethan Greenberg and Eric Allen
Speaker 1: here bringing you the game preview all the Official Jets
Speaker 1: Podcast Jet Saints as the Jets traveled down to Knowledge.
Speaker 1: But let's not bury the lead here e A. Josh
Speaker 1: McCown suffered a broken hand against the Broncos in Week fourteen.
Speaker 1: Done for the year, which means Bryce Petty will get
Speaker 1: his first start of two thousand seventeen this Sunday career
Speaker 1: from McCown. He brought a lot to this organization. I
Speaker 1: think when he signed with the Jets in the spring,
Speaker 1: a lot of people said, hey, listen, yeah, you're just
Speaker 1: getting a journeyman quarterback. And maybe he comes here and
Speaker 1: he holds the clipboard from one of the younger quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: But McCown came in and I think he added it up.
Speaker 1: Completing nearly sevent of his past He had finished third
Speaker 1: in the NFL, third NFL well at the at the time,
Speaker 1: right and then what eighteen touchdown passes five touchdowns on
Speaker 1: the ground. But you know, numbers don't tell the story.
Speaker 1: With Josh McCown, you were covering this team throughout the
Speaker 1: year as well, Greens, and he was so well liked
Speaker 1: by his teammates, so appreciated by his coaching staff. He
Speaker 1: was a perfect guy for this system at this time.
Speaker 1: Worked well with John Morton, a first year play caller
Speaker 1: with the Jets, and he was in sync with Jeremy Bates,
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks coach, a guy who worked with and had
Speaker 1: some success with in Chicago, and he made the players
Speaker 1: around him better. Robbie Anderson is breaking out, Jermaine Curses
Speaker 1: having the best year of his career, Austin So, Marion
Speaker 1: Jenkins career high and receptions um and you can go
Speaker 1: down the list. So he really brought a lot to
Speaker 1: this organization. Not only are you happy before Josh McCown
Speaker 1: for the level he played at because I think he
Speaker 1: kind of proved a lot of critics wrong, but also
Speaker 1: he helped this organization, this team take a step forward
Speaker 1: by creating a culture and also helping miss scouting staff
Speaker 1: evaluate what they have. You can tell how much McCown
Speaker 1: means to this team no matter who you speak to,
Speaker 1: whether it's e A and Bart Scott on Inside the Jets,
Speaker 1: which is also on the Official Jets Podcast. Morris Claiborne
Speaker 1: was your guest this week and he was saying that
Speaker 1: his heart was pumping when he saw mccowun come out
Speaker 1: for a couple of plays after he took a shot
Speaker 1: to the mid section, and then he had that same
Speaker 1: gut feeling when McCown went right to the locker room.
Speaker 1: Master he broke his left hand following a Shane Raight hit,
Speaker 1: but you could tell from there. And Chad Pennington all
Speaker 1: so says this every week that we have them all
Speaker 1: in the Official JEZ podcast game preview, and you mentioned
Speaker 1: it is that he allows the organization to take a
Speaker 1: look at what you have. And I think McCown's presence,
Speaker 1: his leadership, combined with the expectations and the numbers he
Speaker 1: put up made this season very special for him, which
Speaker 1: is why he ended up choking up at the podium.
Speaker 1: It's been the best because of the guys. No, no,
Speaker 1: not no numbers, you know, it's been the best because
Speaker 1: of the group of men in the locker room. I'm
Speaker 1: just proud to be part of it. If you go
Speaker 1: around and you talk to national writers who go to
Speaker 1: different stops along the way throughout the league. He is
Speaker 1: on everybody's top three as most professional and one of
Speaker 1: the nicest guys out there in the world. So I
Speaker 1: mean as far as our football world is concerned. So
Speaker 1: he definitely has earned the respect of so many people
Speaker 1: along the way. And I think we're gonna look back
Speaker 1: at this signing and say, you know what, he brought
Speaker 1: a lot to this organization And we'll have to see
Speaker 1: what happens now because McCown one year contract. Maybe he
Speaker 1: calls the quits at the end of this year, we
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe he resigns with the Jets. We have
Speaker 1: no idea, but he If you're looking for a man
Speaker 1: to put his best foot forward, that's what you've got
Speaker 1: from Josh McCown. And it's so ironic because Todd Bowles
Speaker 1: was talking about last week because everybody was asking him
Speaker 1: about what's the difference about Josh McCown, and he said,
Speaker 1: you know, he's been able to stay healthy this year,
Speaker 1: and then Game thirteen, that happens. He took a big
Speaker 1: shot earlier in that game, like you mentioned, in the
Speaker 1: second quarter, and eventually he goes down. So he's got
Speaker 1: some decisions to make an off season. The Jets has
Speaker 1: some decisions to make an off season, all right, So
Speaker 1: now with Petty sliding in, Petty last year start at
Speaker 1: four games, he played in six, he had three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: seven picks. It's a different system though, because last year
Speaker 1: was Chan Gailey, this year is John Morton. The West
Speaker 1: Coast system a little more past friendly. And we'll check
Speaker 1: in with Chad Pennington to see what he thinks of
Speaker 1: this system and how it fits with Bryce Petty's ability.
Speaker 1: But what do you think about this offense and what
Speaker 1: are you looking for in Bryce in his third year
Speaker 1: and his second season in which he's gonna get some
Speaker 1: playing time. Well, I think he's gonna be Pompty's an
Speaker 1: excitable guy. I think he's been waiting for his opportunity patiently.
Speaker 1: I think Todd Bowles and the rest of the organization
Speaker 1: will be very excited to watch him play. Todd Bowles
Speaker 1: did say that, uh, this week opportunity for him. You know,
Speaker 1: he'll get the majority of the rest this week and
Speaker 1: I'll be well prepared to play come the game one Sunday.
Speaker 1: He knows he's got an opportunity to step up and
Speaker 1: make plays. And look forward to family plan. What you
Speaker 1: want to see from Bryce is to make sure that
Speaker 1: his accuracy is up there and you're staying on time.
Speaker 1: Mean yes, I'm not just talking about specific plays with
Speaker 1: going through progressions one to three, but staying that time,
Speaker 1: meaning that the offense is making the plays they have to,
Speaker 1: staying on schedule and moving the chains this week, this
Speaker 1: is a tough test. So you're going to his Saints
Speaker 1: team that year's passed their defense was quite suspect. I
Speaker 1: don't think you can say that about the Saints no
Speaker 1: any longer. Know, the Saints passing defense at least last
Speaker 1: year was thirty second in the league. This year their fifteen.
Speaker 1: And we'll touch on them a little bit later. But
Speaker 1: you know, without further ado, I think it's time to
Speaker 1: bring in our quarterback, Chad Pennington. Chad, you've been talking
Speaker 1: all year about how well Josh McCown has played, what
Speaker 1: a shot and arm he has given this team. How
Speaker 1: tough was it for you, as a former competitor to
Speaker 1: watch him go down against the Denver Broncles. Well, Eric is,
Speaker 1: it's very tough. And the reason that it's tough, you
Speaker 1: know how hard, you know how well he played and
Speaker 1: how he's been able to keep the team stable. And
Speaker 1: you know what his age is, and when you get
Speaker 1: to his age, you just never know if you have
Speaker 1: another down left, if you have another you don't know
Speaker 1: what your future holds. And so to have to end
Speaker 1: your season like that is certainly difficult. He was so
Speaker 1: emotional after the game because he knew what it meant.
Speaker 1: He had tears in his eyes and you know he
Speaker 1: loves this team playing in this moment. And I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what yed. He had a career year here with
Speaker 1: the New York Jets. He did and he made a
Speaker 1: lot of people better. UM allowed the organization to really
Speaker 1: take a deep look at a lot of different positions
Speaker 1: to make sure the organization gets better in the future. UM.
Speaker 1: And you can see that. And I think a situation
Speaker 1: UM that we saw with Josh and the press conference
Speaker 1: that really humanizes these football players and can bring back
Speaker 1: that human aspect that we sometimes forget as fans that
Speaker 1: these guys aren't robots, the human beings and they really
Speaker 1: put a lot into what they do and they really
Speaker 1: value the relationships that they build on these teams and
Speaker 1: with these organizations, and they know how important those are.
Speaker 1: And so although fantasy football allows us to get caught
Speaker 1: up in the stats, most of our players in the
Speaker 1: NFL really value the time spent with each other. That
Speaker 1: is a bond that you build. Now see any point,
Speaker 1: guys thirty eight years old, he's played fifteen years of
Speaker 1: the National Football League, and yes he hasn't been a
Speaker 1: starter all of his stops, but this meant everything to
Speaker 1: him this year, There's no question about it. And he
Speaker 1: really it's as a veteran and I experienced this too.
Speaker 1: As a veteran, you get into certain situations where you
Speaker 1: just really like the makeup of your team and the
Speaker 1: and the people and the teammates you work with on
Speaker 1: a daily basis really energize you to get up in
Speaker 1: the morning every day and go to work and try
Speaker 1: to be successful. And so he had one of those
Speaker 1: situations here in New York and he was really enjoying that.
Speaker 1: Even talking to him on the field before the Kansas
Speaker 1: City game, I could tell that he was enjoying what
Speaker 1: he was doing. And sometimes it's really easy this game
Speaker 1: and the business of this game can make you negative
Speaker 1: about your profession and you try to fight through that.
Speaker 1: And when you get those years where you feel really
Speaker 1: upbeat about what you're doing and you're energized about it.
Speaker 1: It makes it so rewarding. And that's where he was
Speaker 1: at this point. How does this affect the rest of
Speaker 1: the offense, Because we've talked about this before on the
Speaker 1: Official Jazz Podcast. Game previews at McCown allowed the organization
Speaker 1: to take a deeper look at the players surrounding him,
Speaker 1: and he raised them up. So, now, what do you
Speaker 1: expect from this offense for the rest of the three weeks,
Speaker 1: whether it's Bryce Petty this week or potentially Christian Hackenburg
Speaker 1: down the road. Well, I certainly expect that the players
Speaker 1: who have played well thus far continue to play well.
Speaker 1: But I think the evaluation that now is completely on
Speaker 1: the two young quarterbacks. I think the organization has been
Speaker 1: able to see because of the accounts play what they
Speaker 1: have and the other players. They know exactly what they
Speaker 1: can do and should do. And now the young quarterbacks
Speaker 1: know what these players can do. So these two young quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: when they get their chance to play, they've got to
Speaker 1: go out now show that you know what I have.
Speaker 1: I'm worthwhile and I have value in this organization as well,
Speaker 1: and I can help this team win, and that is
Speaker 1: completely that. That's the name of the game these last
Speaker 1: three weeks for these two young guys, when they get
Speaker 1: their opportunities, they have to go play well. They have
Speaker 1: to prove that they deserve to be on this team.
Speaker 1: And that's just the bottom up. What changes for Patty
Speaker 1: this week? As a backup quarterback, You're not getting too
Speaker 1: many reps. Now he is the guy. John Morton is
Speaker 1: going to be working on a game plan with Petty
Speaker 1: this week. And one thing we talked about last year
Speaker 1: with you was you like Petty's ability to make place
Speaker 1: when things don't look like they're going according to planned.
Speaker 1: What do you expect from him now that he's had
Speaker 1: a week he got in there a few snaps against
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncles. Well, he's certainly. I don't think his
Speaker 1: mental preparation changes as far as his study habits. Obviously
Speaker 1: his physical preparation changes. But because now he gets the
Speaker 1: reps in practice, the other thing that will change is
Speaker 1: the relationship between Morton and Bryce Patty. They've got to
Speaker 1: really increase their communication so that Morton gets a good
Speaker 1: feel for how Bryce thinks and Bryce gets a good
Speaker 1: field for how Because Morton thinks now he calls plays,
Speaker 1: that's going to be a big time key for this week.
Speaker 1: And then finally, I think we saw last year that
Speaker 1: he does have grit. He does uh, you know, have
Speaker 1: that that mental makeup to be able to fight through adversity.
Speaker 1: We saw that in the San Francisco game last year,
Speaker 1: and so we know that now we have to be
Speaker 1: able to see can he put some games together where
Speaker 1: he can prove himself that he has value and that
Speaker 1: he can continue to improve uh, and then he has
Speaker 1: made progress. The biggest thing I want to see physically quarterback,
Speaker 1: I want to see his accuracy improved. I want to
Speaker 1: see him hit the gimme layups when they're there and
Speaker 1: then be at least on the more complex reads and
Speaker 1: things like that. He has to improve his accuracy. How
Speaker 1: do you think John Morton system fits Bryce Petty compared
Speaker 1: to last year when Petty started four games for the Jets,
Speaker 1: but it was under Chan Gaily system. Well, I actually
Speaker 1: I feel like it fits a young quarterback well. With
Speaker 1: coach Morton being part of the West Coast ideology, I
Speaker 1: think you'll have a lot of progression reads um where
Speaker 1: a lot of quessure won't be put on the quarterback
Speaker 1: to decipher coverages per se. Sometimes sometimes it's just about
Speaker 1: the progression regardless of the covers. Also, think being able
Speaker 1: to get the ball out of his hand quickly with
Speaker 1: shallow crosses in the screen game, and all these different
Speaker 1: ways that they can help get him into rhythm as
Speaker 1: fast as they can is important. The biggest challenge for
Speaker 1: Bryce will be going down into the super but Super Dome.
Speaker 1: You're playing the New Orleans Saints at home. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: really really tough to play there. You've got a defense
Speaker 1: that's played really well this year as well as an
Speaker 1: offense that's as explosive as any offense in the league.
Speaker 1: So it's it's a big task, but we'll certainly be
Speaker 1: able to see what he's made up. Well, let's go
Speaker 1: inside the chess match. John Morton had two coaching stints
Speaker 1: under Sean Payton. But Sean Payton is the guy who's
Speaker 1: calling the offensive plays for the Saints. Dennis Allen is
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator. What will Dennis Allen and the Saints
Speaker 1: try to do against the young quarterback Sunday. Well, I
Speaker 1: think typically people think that with a young quarterback you
Speaker 1: just heat him up with pressure and play man to
Speaker 1: cut man covers. But actually, for me, I always thought
Speaker 1: that made it easy for a young quarterback. Um, anytime
Speaker 1: you try to heat him up and it's single coverage outside,
Speaker 1: there's no thinking process involved. All they've got to know
Speaker 1: is are they hot to get rid of the ball quickly?
Speaker 1: And if they're not, then focus on the outside receiver
Speaker 1: and it's one on one. It's like you wouldn't practice.
Speaker 1: How can they take a lesson from jen Verse page
Speaker 1: per se where they got off to a slow start
Speaker 1: and try to translate it to this Sunday where if
Speaker 1: you let the Saints jump on you early and that
Speaker 1: dome starts rocking, that's a recipe for disaster down there.
Speaker 1: In any road game. Uh, if you can get off
Speaker 1: to a faster start, be it with good drives offensively
Speaker 1: or some good three and out thoughts on defense, it
Speaker 1: takes that crowd out of it early and allows you
Speaker 1: just to focus on the game of football and not
Speaker 1: have to deal with the other elements. So um, offensively,
Speaker 1: protecting the ball, just just thinking about first down, just
Speaker 1: to accumulate first down, don't worry about scoring. Anytime you
Speaker 1: go against you read you feel like you gotta put
Speaker 1: up forty to have a chance to win. With this
Speaker 1: year's Saints team, they're running the ball really effectively, and
Speaker 1: so defensively you got to focus on mark Ingram and
Speaker 1: the run game. Uh. And then in the secondary, really
Speaker 1: take a look at their play action game. They do
Speaker 1: a good job with that, moving through around and using
Speaker 1: that play acting game to push the ball down the
Speaker 1: field offensively, accumulate first downs and let's see what happens. Jay,
Speaker 1: great analysis is always. We look forward to catching up
Speaker 1: with you next week. Hopefully the Christmas shoppy is going
Speaker 1: well for you. So far, we are hanging in there
Speaker 1: and pushing through Eric. We certainly are so Green's Bryce
Speaker 1: Patty will make his first start of two thousand and
Speaker 1: seventeen seasons down in New Orleans. As Chad said, is
Speaker 1: that you gotta be accurate with some of those easy ones,
Speaker 1: uh to keep that offense on schedule. And I think
Speaker 1: balance is gonna be huge for this team this week
Speaker 1: because you don't want to fall behind like you did
Speaker 1: in Denver and then you're always playing catch up and
Speaker 1: then they can pin their ears back and come at
Speaker 1: Bryce Patty. You want to have some balance, and how
Speaker 1: about Louise in a lightning. How about Matt four Tay
Speaker 1: and Eli McGuire going back, those are two guys with
Speaker 1: some Louisiana connections that'll be pumped to play the Dome.
Speaker 1: I know Eli McGuire told you and he told me
Speaker 1: on two separate occasions, that he has a lot of
Speaker 1: friends and family going to this game. But it's not
Speaker 1: his first time playing at the Super Dome down there,
Speaker 1: because he played there. I believe in what he said
Speaker 1: three out of his four years at Louisiana Lafayette in
Speaker 1: Bowl games, So he's familiar with the noise, maybe not
Speaker 1: the Saints noise, but he's familiar with how loud he
Speaker 1: can get down there and talk. Talking about the balance
Speaker 1: is the Saints average about thirty one plus minutes in
Speaker 1: time of possession. So if you can neutralize the amount
Speaker 1: of time that Drew Brees in the top offense in
Speaker 1: the NFL, is on the field, that's gonna bode well
Speaker 1: for the Jets no matter what the equation is. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think moving forward, if you can establish a ground game.
Speaker 1: We've talked about this last week is the Jets average
Speaker 1: thirty five rush attempts in their victories throughout the course
Speaker 1: of the season. I go to the other side of
Speaker 1: the ball and say, I think two are the keys
Speaker 1: for the Jets this week are Marcus May Jamal Adams.
Speaker 1: New Orleans likes to pound it up the middle of Ingram.
Speaker 1: They can hit the edges with Alvin Kamara. But with
Speaker 1: that being said, the one thing the Jets did very
Speaker 1: well against the Broncos was they contained the rush game.
Speaker 1: Adams and May are sound tacklers, but they're gonna be
Speaker 1: key this week because they have to make sure that
Speaker 1: breeze doesn't go over the top. Because when the Saints
Speaker 1: start becoming effective running the football, that sets everything up
Speaker 1: play action wise. You mentioned Camara and Ingram debatably the
Speaker 1: best running back duel in the end to Yeah, I
Speaker 1: haven't looked at the stats, but you're right there. I
Speaker 1: would say that they have to beat what Kamara does
Speaker 1: as far as average per temp bolt in the rush
Speaker 1: game and the receiving game is incredible. The other thing
Speaker 1: is these guys are getting to the end zone. Mark
Speaker 1: Ingram has nine touchdowns, Camara has seven just on the ground.
Speaker 1: Camara has a Levin told right, Yeah, So Camara has
Speaker 1: taken the league by storm. He's electric and just watching
Speaker 1: the Thursday night game against the Falcons, in which the
Speaker 1: Saints lost, you could tell how fast paced the Saints
Speaker 1: team moves. And they're gonna be in their home field,
Speaker 1: on their turf. You know, the Saints fans are gonna
Speaker 1: be bringing their loudest versions of themselves, so it is
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough test. All right, let's go down
Speaker 1: to the big easy to check in with Larry Holder
Speaker 1: of NOLA dot com. Let's dive in a little bit
Speaker 1: more into these Saints. Hello, Larry, Yeah, how's it going, sir? Good?
Speaker 1: How are you? Let's dive in here to this weekend's
Speaker 1: matchup Jet Saints. Obviously, when you think of this New
Speaker 1: Orleans team, you think of the offense. So how has
Speaker 1: this offense been so effective mostly on the ground? And
Speaker 1: what have mark Ingram and Alvin Kamara meant to this
Speaker 1: Saints team this year? Yeah, it's been, uh, kind of
Speaker 1: an oddity because we're so used to seeing Drew Brees
Speaker 1: have to take this offense on his back and kind
Speaker 1: of do his thing. But like I honestly think it
Speaker 1: started a little bit last year because mark Ingram had
Speaker 1: his one of his actually had his best season in
Speaker 1: the NFL last year rush for over a thousand yards,
Speaker 1: and that's the first time anyone has done that with
Speaker 1: the Saints since Duds McAlister in two thousand and six.
Speaker 1: So I think they were they were thinking after that
Speaker 1: season they were going to try to gear it along
Speaker 1: those lines. Um. I think what they did with the
Speaker 1: offensive line, they kind of beast that up in the offseason.
Speaker 1: Larry Warford, a guard, is known as a real road
Speaker 1: grader in the run game. Uh. Like they got fortunate
Speaker 1: to have Ryan ram Check as a first round pick,
Speaker 1: their second first round pick, and so I think the
Speaker 1: offensive line has gotten better. Uh and so, and then
Speaker 1: you add Alvin Kamarat to the mix. Look, they had
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, and I think they knew after even Week one,
Speaker 1: uh that day were going to try to face him out.
Speaker 1: Use Kimara and Ingram and their combined success has made
Speaker 1: them more unpredictable than I've seen in the past. Even
Speaker 1: though you might say, oh wow, it's hard to it's
Speaker 1: easy to predict that they're gonna run the football. But
Speaker 1: stopping into the different story and then you look at
Speaker 1: both how both of those backs they can be diverse,
Speaker 1: They can catch the ball out of the backfield. Mcalan Kimarah.
Speaker 1: We know whose prognosis is uncertain this week because he
Speaker 1: had to leave the game last week against the Falcons
Speaker 1: with a concussion. Uh. He says he's going to be
Speaker 1: good to go, but obviously, uh, you can't go by that.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to go through the protocol and and
Speaker 1: pass through the test. But look, it's a different Saints
Speaker 1: often than what we've seen in the past. And I
Speaker 1: do think that, Uh, you know, you can look at
Speaker 1: as May eight. Uh, if you need to dial upt
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, you can, but you don't have to. And
Speaker 1: I think that makes the Saints different than some of
Speaker 1: the teams we've seen here in New Orleans in the past.
Speaker 1: This Saints team has got immediate dividend from this two
Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen draft class. Uh. Can you tell us
Speaker 1: about these picks and what they've been able to do
Speaker 1: here early in their careers. Yeah, they've really struck gold
Speaker 1: and the Saints have they in the past few years
Speaker 1: when kind of their mediocre years of seven and nine
Speaker 1: they've missed. But like they started hitting on some draft
Speaker 1: picks last year. But they really hit on him this year,
Speaker 1: all you gotta do is star with Marshawn Lattimore. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he has become to me, he's you could
Speaker 1: easily argue he's the defensive rookie of the year. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, he had an interception last week and he
Speaker 1: when he's on the field, he takes away half the field.
Speaker 1: And I don't know in in the history of the
Speaker 1: Saints franchise that they've ever had a guy like that,
Speaker 1: and it's happened so early. And I mentioned Ryan Ramcheck earlier.
Speaker 1: Looks the Saints drafted him and now is in the
Speaker 1: pick for the Brandon Cook's trade. They draft him because
Speaker 1: he's the best player on the board. Look, they wanted
Speaker 1: to even foster the pick before. Uh they maybe want
Speaker 1: to attack McKinley, And he came off the board, and
Speaker 1: so Ryan Ramcheck was just sitting there and then said
Speaker 1: all right, let's take him. And Ryan Ramcheck he's jumped
Speaker 1: right in and been one of the honestly one of
Speaker 1: the better tackles this year overall, I think in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So that's a that's something pretty stunning. With Marcus Williams,
Speaker 1: the guy who took him the second round, he's been
Speaker 1: a starter since day one at free safety, and he's
Speaker 1: brought a little bit more of a dynamic ability back there.
Speaker 1: Then you get to Alvin Camara. I mean, I'm less
Speaker 1: listen all these guys and now I'm getting to album.
Speaker 1: That's amazing, that's amazing. He's averaging seven yards and carry.
Speaker 1: He's got sixty two receptions. Alvin Camara is basically who
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush who you thought he would be when he started.
Speaker 1: He that's Alvin Camaro right now. And I know how
Speaker 1: much the Saints value him, and I know how mu
Speaker 1: Showing Dayton values him. I know how much Drew Brees
Speaker 1: values him. And anytime they can get the ball in
Speaker 1: his hands, they want to do it. And uh That's
Speaker 1: why I think when when he was playing uh and
Speaker 1: got concussed against the Falcons, the game plan changed and
Speaker 1: they had they couldn't make get it done on the
Speaker 1: fly because They're so relying on him a lot of times.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see if he can't go what
Speaker 1: that does to the Saints offense. But yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: the draft class. I mean, I just rotted off all
Speaker 1: those guys. They are all four starters essentially, They're all
Speaker 1: four major difference makers for the Saints team right away.
Speaker 1: You talk about Lattimore and Williams, the two defensive rookies,
Speaker 1: the Saints first and second round picks. How do you
Speaker 1: go about attacking this defense? Is it in the middle,
Speaker 1: is it on the outside opposite Lattimore? What's been the
Speaker 1: theme there? Well, when teams have had success, it's it's
Speaker 1: really been more about and a lot a lot of
Speaker 1: teams have had success, to be honest with you, because look,
Speaker 1: those first two losses, they weren't playing well at all.
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lattimore wasn't the guy yet, and they Ken Crawley
Speaker 1: wasn't even starting. He was inactive the first two games,
Speaker 1: a healthy and active, and then they figured, let's throw
Speaker 1: this kid out there. He's an undrafted guy, second year
Speaker 1: in the league. UH, and he's become a solid player.
Speaker 1: So I think once they got that going, I think
Speaker 1: it's hard to to attack. Look like Matt Ryan his
Speaker 1: quarterback rating last week was fifty five, and so I
Speaker 1: think what you've got to be able to do is
Speaker 1: you've got to be able to run the football effectively
Speaker 1: against the Saints. UH. And So because I think if
Speaker 1: you want to attack a side at the defensive front.
Speaker 1: It would probably be beside opposite Cam Jordan because Alexoka
Speaker 1: for suffering achilles injury a couple of weeks ago against
Speaker 1: Washington and they have not found a replacement for him,
Speaker 1: and they're banged up over there. So if you want
Speaker 1: to attack there, maybe run the football that way. But
Speaker 1: one of the big things there's that the scenes. Their
Speaker 1: their past rush overall hasn't been great, but it's it
Speaker 1: becomes great when the coverage and we saw Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: have to hold the ball a lot longer than I'm
Speaker 1: seeing him have to hold the ball Saints in the past,
Speaker 1: he's holding on the ball because he can't find open guys,
Speaker 1: and I think that's a big key to the success
Speaker 1: of the Saints. So I would say, and if you're
Speaker 1: talking past the game, just don't throw up Marshall Lattimore.
Speaker 1: Larry Holder is a columnist for NOLA dot Com. This
Speaker 1: is the Jets Saints game preview on Official Jets Podcast. Larry,
Speaker 1: what was your interaction like UH with John Morton during
Speaker 1: his time? There are a couple of stints with the
Speaker 1: Saints and UM, how happy do you think Sean Payton is?
Speaker 1: UH for Morton this year working with a lot of
Speaker 1: different pieces. Throwout last week's game. The Jets offense has
Speaker 1: done a lot of good things in two thousand and seventeen. Yeah, look,
Speaker 1: I could tell you, yeah with with John Morton, Uh,
Speaker 1: he worked, he helped mold Michael Thomas. I mean, I
Speaker 1: could tell you that he was a wide receiver coach. Uh,
Speaker 1: and he had a lot of good pieces. He was
Speaker 1: working with Michael Thomas, he was working with Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think he's someone who knows the passing game.
Speaker 1: And I think the fact that you're able to see
Speaker 1: a little bit of that, you know, you had that
Speaker 1: with Josh McCown, uh, you know before the injury, and
Speaker 1: he was kind of making some things happen with some
Speaker 1: pieces you might not have figured. And so I think
Speaker 1: that's you know, John Morton probably brought a lot of
Speaker 1: the pieces that he learned from Sean Payton to the
Speaker 1: puzzle with the Jets, And yeah, I thought he made
Speaker 1: he certainly made the receiving corps better when uh, while
Speaker 1: he was here, because before that, uh, you know, the
Speaker 1: pieces weren't that great and uh kind of in a
Speaker 1: transition phase. But yeah, I think the work he did
Speaker 1: with the wide receivers in New Orleans was excellent. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's a reason why, Uh the Jets sought out to
Speaker 1: go get him. And like he's definitely done a better
Speaker 1: job than I thought he would have given the pieces
Speaker 1: and the kind of the hand he was dealt up
Speaker 1: there in his first year, up there with New Orleans,
Speaker 1: where they're at an NFC self, with Carolina right there
Speaker 1: with Atlanta right there, is there any chance they could
Speaker 1: overlook this game? Well, look, there's been a lot of
Speaker 1: counters because it was a conversation after the Falcon game,
Speaker 1: because it was a heated game, and uh, like the
Speaker 1: Saints are they we're talking to my boy. They can't
Speaker 1: wait to see them in a couple of weeks for
Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve. But I do think that the Saints, uh,
Speaker 1: and they've been very good about this. They haven't uh
Speaker 1: you know, they haven't lost two opponents where they should
Speaker 1: have lost. You know that every opponent they lost to
Speaker 1: have been a good teams. They haven't overlooked teams at all.
Speaker 1: And I all I think they gotta do is look
Speaker 1: at the landscape of the NFC, which even though you
Speaker 1: could see you could tell me all you want that,
Speaker 1: they're not. I know they are. Uh. Calana is right
Speaker 1: on you, Atlanta's right on you. You've got to win
Speaker 1: every game just to stay afloat, so you can't afford
Speaker 1: to be looking ahead. Uh And I think the scenes
Speaker 1: team has done a very good job of not doing that.
Speaker 1: Uh And so I don't anticipate them looking ahead of
Speaker 1: the Jets, knowing just the dynamic and the landscape of
Speaker 1: the NFC at the NF outstanding stuff from Larry Holder.
Speaker 1: You can follow him and read him at NOLA dot com. Larry,
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing you on Sunday at the Super
Speaker 1: Doll All right, thank you guys. Ea. What really stook
Speaker 1: out to me what Larry said was of the Saints
Speaker 1: first four draft choices, they're all starting, and they're all
Speaker 1: extremely effective. You know, just looking at this draft class
Speaker 1: right now, when you see Lattimore and you see Kimara,
Speaker 1: you could say, Wow, we might be looking back at
Speaker 1: this draft class in ten to fifteen years and saying
Speaker 1: this is one of the better draft classes we've seen
Speaker 1: it along. I also think that Marcus Williams and I
Speaker 1: could be wrong on this, but I believe this is
Speaker 1: that Marcus Williams is the equivalent of Marcus May here,
Speaker 1: and that Marshawn Lattimore was the first selection for the Saints.
Speaker 1: He gets the name recognition. He's been playing very well,
Speaker 1: similar to Jamal Adams. And then Marcus Williams is doing
Speaker 1: a nice job in the back making sure everyone's set upright,
Speaker 1: similar Marcus. Yeah, you know, it takes a village back there.
Speaker 1: And Larry Holders said that Lattimore takes away a side
Speaker 1: of the field. But with that being said, the other
Speaker 1: thing that I noticed myself watching the game Thursday night
Speaker 1: between New Orleans and Atlanta was Matt Ryan went back
Speaker 1: to throw off and he didn't have open receivers down
Speaker 1: the field where you saw Atlanta half some success was
Speaker 1: actually running the football. Jets are different scheme wise, but
Speaker 1: again that's where it goes back to balance. But their
Speaker 1: secondary is pretty good. We talk a lot about energy
Speaker 1: on the road and how the Jets need to create
Speaker 1: their own energy. Maybe they'll get a boost from the
Speaker 1: Louisiana boys going back down south. H Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and we talked about the running backs. But obviously Jamal
Speaker 1: Adams uh six overall pick from LSU and a sixth
Speaker 1: overall pick in two thousand and twelve was a guy
Speaker 1: by the name of Morris Clayborne. He's a Louisiana native,
Speaker 1: so a lot of guys have connections, um, you know,
Speaker 1: But you know this is this is a monstrous test
Speaker 1: and this begins an unbelievable end of the schedule for
Speaker 1: the Jets. And we knew that before the season when
Speaker 1: the schedule makers put this one out in April. But
Speaker 1: you're looking at three Hall of Fame quarterbacks, potentially in
Speaker 1: Breeze is definitely going to Hall of Fame Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve. The Chargers are in a battle for
Speaker 1: the a f C West right now. They got a
Speaker 1: monstrous game against Kansas City this weekend. But you know,
Speaker 1: you look at his regular season statistics and say, yeah,
Speaker 1: he looks like a Hall of Fame quarterback. And Tom
Speaker 1: Brady is going to Hall of Fame. And Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: typically doesn't rest players late in the season, no matter
Speaker 1: what's happened. So all three of these teams to me,
Speaker 1: on paper, look like they have a potential to be
Speaker 1: playing late in January. And I even include the Chargers
Speaker 1: in that mix. And right now, as it stands, they
Speaker 1: all have something to play for, so you know they're
Speaker 1: gonna bringing their a game. And I'm glad you mentioned
Speaker 1: Drew Brees just because he's having a tremendous year. And
Speaker 1: I know the Saints rushing attack is surpassed the passing
Speaker 1: attack this season, which has been an anomaly, like Larry
Speaker 1: Holder said, but Brees has been putting up great numbers.
Speaker 1: He leaves the NFL and completion percentage, completing one percent
Speaker 1: of his passes. And oh, by the way, his top
Speaker 1: target is Michael Thomas in Ohio State Products, who has
Speaker 1: been phenomenal. I really think the Jets, you know, and
Speaker 1: there's no moral victories in the National Football League, but
Speaker 1: you just want to give yourself, put yourself in a
Speaker 1: position where you're in a ball game in the second half,
Speaker 1: because by and large this year of Green's we've been
Speaker 1: covering a football team that's been giving people fits or
Speaker 1: has been winning games. And you know, we're wall passed
Speaker 1: talking about fourth quarter blong fourth quarter leads at this point.
Speaker 1: What the Jets want to do now, especially after last
Speaker 1: week has coming to New Orleans and to compete and
Speaker 1: to be in the ball game late all right, Before
Speaker 1: we wrap up here, one final question is if you
Speaker 1: could pinpoint the single most important category I'll say for
Speaker 1: this weekend, whether it be offense or defense, for the
Speaker 1: New York Jets to put themselves in a position in
Speaker 1: the second half to be competitive. Like we just said,
Speaker 1: what is it? Well, I think they need some momentum
Speaker 1: change in place, and I wouldn't anticipate they will be
Speaker 1: in Let's just say that. I think you throw the
Speaker 1: Denver game out, you'll learn from it. Uh, this is
Speaker 1: a different matchup. But they need some momentum changing plays.
Speaker 1: They have to be the ones who turns New Orleans over,
Speaker 1: or they have a block punt or maybe a long return,
Speaker 1: or maybe Bryce Petty comes out and it's a d
Speaker 1: R touchdown to Robbie Anderson. I'm just saying they need
Speaker 1: a few big plays this week for you gotta go
Speaker 1: and make some big plays. And on that note, that's
Speaker 1: all we have this week on the official Jets podcast,
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