1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Like game on the world, you played to win the 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: games a Jet toucksdown can't win your Listening to the 3 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Official Jets Podcast Jets three sixty production, Week fifteen of 4 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: the NFL season is here Ethan Greenberg and Eric Allen 5 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: here bringing you the game preview all the Official Jets 6 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: Podcast Jet Saints as the Jets traveled down to Knowledge. 7 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: But let's not bury the lead here e A. Josh 8 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: McCown suffered a broken hand against the Broncos in Week fourteen. 9 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: Done for the year, which means Bryce Petty will get 10 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: his first start of two thousand seventeen this Sunday career 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: from McCown. He brought a lot to this organization. I 12 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: think when he signed with the Jets in the spring, 13 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people said, hey, listen, yeah, you're just 14 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: getting a journeyman quarterback. And maybe he comes here and 15 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: he holds the clipboard from one of the younger quarterbacks. 16 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: But McCown came in and I think he added it up. 17 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: Completing nearly sevent of his past He had finished third 18 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL, third NFL well at the at the time, 19 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: right and then what eighteen touchdown passes five touchdowns on 20 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: the ground. But you know, numbers don't tell the story. 21 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: With Josh McCown, you were covering this team throughout the 22 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: year as well, Greens, and he was so well liked 23 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: by his teammates, so appreciated by his coaching staff. He 24 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: was a perfect guy for this system at this time. 25 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: Worked well with John Morton, a first year play caller 26 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: with the Jets, and he was in sync with Jeremy Bates, 27 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks coach, a guy who worked with and had 28 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: some success with in Chicago, and he made the players 29 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: around him better. Robbie Anderson is breaking out, Jermaine Curses 30 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: having the best year of his career, Austin So, Marion 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: Jenkins career high and receptions um and you can go 32 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: down the list. So he really brought a lot to 33 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: this organization. Not only are you happy before Josh McCown 34 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: for the level he played at because I think he 35 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: kind of proved a lot of critics wrong, but also 36 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: he helped this organization, this team take a step forward 37 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: by creating a culture and also helping miss scouting staff 38 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: evaluate what they have. You can tell how much McCown 39 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: means to this team no matter who you speak to, 40 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: whether it's e A and Bart Scott on Inside the Jets, 41 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: which is also on the Official Jets Podcast. Morris Claiborne 42 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: was your guest this week and he was saying that 43 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: his heart was pumping when he saw mccowun come out 44 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: for a couple of plays after he took a shot 45 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: to the mid section, and then he had that same 46 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: gut feeling when McCown went right to the locker room. 47 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: Master he broke his left hand following a Shane Raight hit, 48 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: but you could tell from there. And Chad Pennington all 49 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: so says this every week that we have them all 50 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: in the Official JEZ podcast game preview, and you mentioned 51 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: it is that he allows the organization to take a 52 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: look at what you have. And I think McCown's presence, 53 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: his leadership, combined with the expectations and the numbers he 54 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: put up made this season very special for him, which 55 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: is why he ended up choking up at the podium. 56 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: It's been the best because of the guys. No, no, 57 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: not no numbers, you know, it's been the best because 58 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: of the group of men in the locker room. I'm 59 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: just proud to be part of it. If you go 60 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: around and you talk to national writers who go to 61 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: different stops along the way throughout the league. He is 62 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: on everybody's top three as most professional and one of 63 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: the nicest guys out there in the world. So I 64 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: mean as far as our football world is concerned. So 65 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: he definitely has earned the respect of so many people 66 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: along the way. And I think we're gonna look back 67 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: at this signing and say, you know what, he brought 68 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: a lot to this organization And we'll have to see 69 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: what happens now because McCown one year contract. Maybe he 70 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: calls the quits at the end of this year, we 71 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe he resigns with the Jets. We have 72 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: no idea, but he If you're looking for a man 73 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: to put his best foot forward, that's what you've got 74 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: from Josh McCown. And it's so ironic because Todd Bowles 75 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: was talking about last week because everybody was asking him 76 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: about what's the difference about Josh McCown, and he said, 77 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: you know, he's been able to stay healthy this year, 78 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: and then Game thirteen, that happens. He took a big 79 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: shot earlier in that game, like you mentioned, in the 80 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: second quarter, and eventually he goes down. So he's got 81 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: some decisions to make an off season. The Jets has 82 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: some decisions to make an off season, all right, So 83 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: now with Petty sliding in, Petty last year start at 84 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: four games, he played in six, he had three touchdowns, 85 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: seven picks. It's a different system though, because last year 86 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: was Chan Gailey, this year is John Morton. The West 87 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: Coast system a little more past friendly. And we'll check 88 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: in with Chad Pennington to see what he thinks of 89 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: this system and how it fits with Bryce Petty's ability. 90 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: But what do you think about this offense and what 91 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: are you looking for in Bryce in his third year 92 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: and his second season in which he's gonna get some 93 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: playing time. Well, I think he's gonna be Pompty's an 94 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: excitable guy. I think he's been waiting for his opportunity patiently. 95 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: I think Todd Bowles and the rest of the organization 96 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: will be very excited to watch him play. Todd Bowles 97 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: did say that, uh, this week opportunity for him. You know, 98 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: he'll get the majority of the rest this week and 99 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: I'll be well prepared to play come the game one Sunday. 100 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: He knows he's got an opportunity to step up and 101 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: make plays. And look forward to family plan. What you 102 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: want to see from Bryce is to make sure that 103 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: his accuracy is up there and you're staying on time. 104 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: Mean yes, I'm not just talking about specific plays with 105 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: going through progressions one to three, but staying that time, 106 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: meaning that the offense is making the plays they have to, 107 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: staying on schedule and moving the chains this week, this 108 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 1: is a tough test. So you're going to his Saints 109 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: team that year's passed their defense was quite suspect. I 110 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: don't think you can say that about the Saints no 111 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: any longer. Know, the Saints passing defense at least last 112 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: year was thirty second in the league. This year their fifteen. 113 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: And we'll touch on them a little bit later. But 114 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: you know, without further ado, I think it's time to 115 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: bring in our quarterback, Chad Pennington. Chad, you've been talking 116 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: all year about how well Josh McCown has played, what 117 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: a shot and arm he has given this team. How 118 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: tough was it for you, as a former competitor to 119 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: watch him go down against the Denver Broncles. Well, Eric is, 120 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: it's very tough. And the reason that it's tough, you 121 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: know how hard, you know how well he played and 122 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: how he's been able to keep the team stable. And 123 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: you know what his age is, and when you get 124 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: to his age, you just never know if you have 125 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: another down left, if you have another you don't know 126 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: what your future holds. And so to have to end 127 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: your season like that is certainly difficult. He was so 128 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: emotional after the game because he knew what it meant. 129 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: He had tears in his eyes and you know he 130 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: loves this team playing in this moment. And I'll tell 131 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: you what yed. He had a career year here with 132 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: the New York Jets. He did and he made a 133 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: lot of people better. UM allowed the organization to really 134 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: take a deep look at a lot of different positions 135 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: to make sure the organization gets better in the future. UM. 136 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: And you can see that. And I think a situation 137 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: UM that we saw with Josh and the press conference 138 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: that really humanizes these football players and can bring back 139 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: that human aspect that we sometimes forget as fans that 140 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: these guys aren't robots, the human beings and they really 141 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: put a lot into what they do and they really 142 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: value the relationships that they build on these teams and 143 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: with these organizations, and they know how important those are. 144 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: And so although fantasy football allows us to get caught 145 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: up in the stats, most of our players in the 146 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: NFL really value the time spent with each other. That 147 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: is a bond that you build. Now see any point, 148 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: guys thirty eight years old, he's played fifteen years of 149 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: the National Football League, and yes he hasn't been a 150 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: starter all of his stops, but this meant everything to 151 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: him this year, There's no question about it. And he 152 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: really it's as a veteran and I experienced this too. 153 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: As a veteran, you get into certain situations where you 154 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: just really like the makeup of your team and the 155 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: and the people and the teammates you work with on 156 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: a daily basis really energize you to get up in 157 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: the morning every day and go to work and try 158 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: to be successful. And so he had one of those 159 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: situations here in New York and he was really enjoying that. 160 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: Even talking to him on the field before the Kansas 161 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: City game, I could tell that he was enjoying what 162 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: he was doing. And sometimes it's really easy this game 163 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: and the business of this game can make you negative 164 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: about your profession and you try to fight through that. 165 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: And when you get those years where you feel really 166 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: upbeat about what you're doing and you're energized about it. 167 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: It makes it so rewarding. And that's where he was 168 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: at this point. How does this affect the rest of 169 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: the offense, Because we've talked about this before on the 170 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: Official Jazz Podcast. Game previews at McCown allowed the organization 171 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: to take a deeper look at the players surrounding him, 172 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: and he raised them up. So, now, what do you 173 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: expect from this offense for the rest of the three weeks, 174 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: whether it's Bryce Petty this week or potentially Christian Hackenburg 175 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: down the road. Well, I certainly expect that the players 176 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: who have played well thus far continue to play well. 177 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: But I think the evaluation that now is completely on 178 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: the two young quarterbacks. I think the organization has been 179 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: able to see because of the accounts play what they 180 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: have and the other players. They know exactly what they 181 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: can do and should do. And now the young quarterbacks 182 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: know what these players can do. So these two young quarterbacks, 183 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: when they get their chance to play, they've got to 184 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: go out now show that you know what I have. 185 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm worthwhile and I have value in this organization as well, 186 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: and I can help this team win, and that is 187 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: completely that. That's the name of the game these last 188 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: three weeks for these two young guys, when they get 189 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: their opportunities, they have to go play well. They have 190 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: to prove that they deserve to be on this team. 191 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: And that's just the bottom up. What changes for Patty 192 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: this week? As a backup quarterback, You're not getting too 193 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: many reps. Now he is the guy. John Morton is 194 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: going to be working on a game plan with Petty 195 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: this week. And one thing we talked about last year 196 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: with you was you like Petty's ability to make place 197 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: when things don't look like they're going according to planned. 198 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: What do you expect from him now that he's had 199 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: a week he got in there a few snaps against 200 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncles. Well, he's certainly. I don't think his 201 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: mental preparation changes as far as his study habits. Obviously 202 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: his physical preparation changes. But because now he gets the 203 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: reps in practice, the other thing that will change is 204 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: the relationship between Morton and Bryce Patty. They've got to 205 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: really increase their communication so that Morton gets a good 206 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: feel for how Bryce thinks and Bryce gets a good 207 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: field for how Because Morton thinks now he calls plays, 208 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: that's going to be a big time key for this week. 209 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: And then finally, I think we saw last year that 210 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: he does have grit. He does uh, you know, have 211 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: that that mental makeup to be able to fight through adversity. 212 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: We saw that in the San Francisco game last year, 213 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: and so we know that now we have to be 214 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: able to see can he put some games together where 215 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: he can prove himself that he has value and that 216 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: he can continue to improve uh, and then he has 217 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: made progress. The biggest thing I want to see physically quarterback, 218 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: I want to see his accuracy improved. I want to 219 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: see him hit the gimme layups when they're there and 220 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: then be at least on the more complex reads and 221 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: things like that. He has to improve his accuracy. How 222 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: do you think John Morton system fits Bryce Petty compared 223 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: to last year when Petty started four games for the Jets, 224 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: but it was under Chan Gaily system. Well, I actually 225 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: I feel like it fits a young quarterback well. With 226 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: coach Morton being part of the West Coast ideology, I 227 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: think you'll have a lot of progression reads um where 228 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: a lot of quessure won't be put on the quarterback 229 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: to decipher coverages per se. Sometimes sometimes it's just about 230 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: the progression regardless of the covers. Also, think being able 231 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: to get the ball out of his hand quickly with 232 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: shallow crosses in the screen game, and all these different 233 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: ways that they can help get him into rhythm as 234 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: fast as they can is important. The biggest challenge for 235 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: Bryce will be going down into the super but Super Dome. 236 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: You're playing the New Orleans Saints at home. Uh, it's 237 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: really really tough to play there. You've got a defense 238 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: that's played really well this year as well as an 239 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: offense that's as explosive as any offense in the league. 240 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: So it's it's a big task, but we'll certainly be 241 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: able to see what he's made up. Well, let's go 242 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: inside the chess match. John Morton had two coaching stints 243 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: under Sean Payton. But Sean Payton is the guy who's 244 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: calling the offensive plays for the Saints. Dennis Allen is 245 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator. What will Dennis Allen and the Saints 246 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: try to do against the young quarterback Sunday. Well, I 247 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: think typically people think that with a young quarterback you 248 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: just heat him up with pressure and play man to 249 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: cut man covers. But actually, for me, I always thought 250 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: that made it easy for a young quarterback. Um, anytime 251 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: you try to heat him up and it's single coverage outside, 252 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: there's no thinking process involved. All they've got to know 253 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: is are they hot to get rid of the ball quickly? 254 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: And if they're not, then focus on the outside receiver 255 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: and it's one on one. It's like you wouldn't practice. 256 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: How can they take a lesson from jen Verse page 257 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: per se where they got off to a slow start 258 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: and try to translate it to this Sunday where if 259 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: you let the Saints jump on you early and that 260 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: dome starts rocking, that's a recipe for disaster down there. 261 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: In any road game. Uh, if you can get off 262 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: to a faster start, be it with good drives offensively 263 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: or some good three and out thoughts on defense, it 264 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: takes that crowd out of it early and allows you 265 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: just to focus on the game of football and not 266 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: have to deal with the other elements. So um, offensively, 267 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: protecting the ball, just just thinking about first down, just 268 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: to accumulate first down, don't worry about scoring. Anytime you 269 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: go against you read you feel like you gotta put 270 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: up forty to have a chance to win. With this 271 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: year's Saints team, they're running the ball really effectively, and 272 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: so defensively you got to focus on mark Ingram and 273 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: the run game. Uh. And then in the secondary, really 274 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: take a look at their play action game. They do 275 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: a good job with that, moving through around and using 276 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: that play acting game to push the ball down the 277 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: field offensively, accumulate first downs and let's see what happens. Jay, 278 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: great analysis is always. We look forward to catching up 279 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: with you next week. Hopefully the Christmas shoppy is going 280 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: well for you. So far, we are hanging in there 281 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: and pushing through Eric. We certainly are so Green's Bryce 282 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: Patty will make his first start of two thousand and 283 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: seventeen seasons down in New Orleans. As Chad said, is 284 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: that you gotta be accurate with some of those easy ones, 285 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: uh to keep that offense on schedule. And I think 286 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: balance is gonna be huge for this team this week 287 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: because you don't want to fall behind like you did 288 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: in Denver and then you're always playing catch up and 289 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: then they can pin their ears back and come at 290 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: Bryce Patty. You want to have some balance, and how 291 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: about Louise in a lightning. How about Matt four Tay 292 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: and Eli McGuire going back, those are two guys with 293 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: some Louisiana connections that'll be pumped to play the Dome. 294 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: I know Eli McGuire told you and he told me 295 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: on two separate occasions, that he has a lot of 296 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: friends and family going to this game. But it's not 297 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: his first time playing at the Super Dome down there, 298 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: because he played there. I believe in what he said 299 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: three out of his four years at Louisiana Lafayette in 300 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: Bowl games, So he's familiar with the noise, maybe not 301 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: the Saints noise, but he's familiar with how loud he 302 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: can get down there and talk. Talking about the balance 303 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: is the Saints average about thirty one plus minutes in 304 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: time of possession. So if you can neutralize the amount 305 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: of time that Drew Brees in the top offense in 306 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: the NFL, is on the field, that's gonna bode well 307 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: for the Jets no matter what the equation is. But yeah, 308 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: I think moving forward, if you can establish a ground game. 309 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: We've talked about this last week is the Jets average 310 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: thirty five rush attempts in their victories throughout the course 311 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: of the season. I go to the other side of 312 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: the ball and say, I think two are the keys 313 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: for the Jets this week are Marcus May Jamal Adams. 314 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: New Orleans likes to pound it up the middle of Ingram. 315 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: They can hit the edges with Alvin Kamara. But with 316 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: that being said, the one thing the Jets did very 317 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: well against the Broncos was they contained the rush game. 318 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: Adams and May are sound tacklers, but they're gonna be 319 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: key this week because they have to make sure that 320 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,959 Speaker 1: breeze doesn't go over the top. Because when the Saints 321 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: start becoming effective running the football, that sets everything up 322 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: play action wise. You mentioned Camara and Ingram debatably the 323 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: best running back duel in the end to Yeah, I 324 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: haven't looked at the stats, but you're right there. I 325 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: would say that they have to beat what Kamara does 326 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: as far as average per temp bolt in the rush 327 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: game and the receiving game is incredible. The other thing 328 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: is these guys are getting to the end zone. Mark 329 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: Ingram has nine touchdowns, Camara has seven just on the ground. 330 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: Camara has a Levin told right, Yeah, So Camara has 331 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: taken the league by storm. He's electric and just watching 332 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: the Thursday night game against the Falcons, in which the 333 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: Saints lost, you could tell how fast paced the Saints 334 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: team moves. And they're gonna be in their home field, 335 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: on their turf. You know, the Saints fans are gonna 336 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: be bringing their loudest versions of themselves, so it is 337 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: gonna be a tough test. All right, let's go down 338 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: to the big easy to check in with Larry Holder 339 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: of NOLA dot com. Let's dive in a little bit 340 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: more into these Saints. Hello, Larry, Yeah, how's it going, sir? Good? 341 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: How are you? Let's dive in here to this weekend's 342 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: matchup Jet Saints. Obviously, when you think of this New 343 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: Orleans team, you think of the offense. So how has 344 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: this offense been so effective mostly on the ground? And 345 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: what have mark Ingram and Alvin Kamara meant to this 346 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: Saints team this year? Yeah, it's been, uh, kind of 347 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: an oddity because we're so used to seeing Drew Brees 348 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: have to take this offense on his back and kind 349 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: of do his thing. But like I honestly think it 350 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: started a little bit last year because mark Ingram had 351 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: his one of his actually had his best season in 352 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: the NFL last year rush for over a thousand yards, 353 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: and that's the first time anyone has done that with 354 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: the Saints since Duds McAlister in two thousand and six. 355 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: So I think they were they were thinking after that 356 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: season they were going to try to gear it along 357 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: those lines. Um. I think what they did with the 358 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: offensive line, they kind of beast that up in the offseason. 359 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: Larry Warford, a guard, is known as a real road 360 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: grader in the run game. Uh. Like they got fortunate 361 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: to have Ryan ram Check as a first round pick, 362 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: their second first round pick, and so I think the 363 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: offensive line has gotten better. Uh and so, and then 364 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: you add Alvin Kamarat to the mix. Look, they had 365 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, and I think they knew after even Week one, 366 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: uh that day were going to try to face him out. 367 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: Use Kimara and Ingram and their combined success has made 368 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: them more unpredictable than I've seen in the past. Even 369 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: though you might say, oh wow, it's hard to it's 370 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: easy to predict that they're gonna run the football. But 371 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: stopping into the different story and then you look at 372 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: both how both of those backs they can be diverse, 373 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: They can catch the ball out of the backfield. Mcalan Kimarah. 374 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: We know whose prognosis is uncertain this week because he 375 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: had to leave the game last week against the Falcons 376 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: with a concussion. Uh. He says he's going to be 377 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: good to go, but obviously, uh, you can't go by that. 378 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: He's gonna have to go through the protocol and and 379 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: pass through the test. But look, it's a different Saints 380 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: often than what we've seen in the past. And I 381 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: do think that, Uh, you know, you can look at 382 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: as May eight. Uh, if you need to dial upt 383 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, you can, but you don't have to. And 384 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: I think that makes the Saints different than some of 385 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: the teams we've seen here in New Orleans in the past. 386 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: This Saints team has got immediate dividend from this two 387 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen draft class. Uh. Can you tell us 388 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: about these picks and what they've been able to do 389 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: here early in their careers. Yeah, they've really struck gold 390 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: and the Saints have they in the past few years 391 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: when kind of their mediocre years of seven and nine 392 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: they've missed. But like they started hitting on some draft 393 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: picks last year. But they really hit on him this year, 394 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: all you gotta do is star with Marshawn Lattimore. Uh, 395 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, he has become to me, he's you could 396 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: easily argue he's the defensive rookie of the year. Uh 397 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: you know, he had an interception last week and he 398 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: when he's on the field, he takes away half the field. 399 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: And I don't know in in the history of the 400 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: Saints franchise that they've ever had a guy like that, 401 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 1: and it's happened so early. And I mentioned Ryan Ramcheck earlier. 402 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: Looks the Saints drafted him and now is in the 403 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: pick for the Brandon Cook's trade. They draft him because 404 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: he's the best player on the board. Look, they wanted 405 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: to even foster the pick before. Uh they maybe want 406 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: to attack McKinley, And he came off the board, and 407 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: so Ryan Ramcheck was just sitting there and then said 408 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: all right, let's take him. And Ryan Ramcheck he's jumped 409 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: right in and been one of the honestly one of 410 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: the better tackles this year overall, I think in the NFL. 411 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: So that's a that's something pretty stunning. With Marcus Williams, 412 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: the guy who took him the second round, he's been 413 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: a starter since day one at free safety, and he's 414 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: brought a little bit more of a dynamic ability back there. 415 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: Then you get to Alvin Camara. I mean, I'm less 416 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: listen all these guys and now I'm getting to album. 417 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: That's amazing, that's amazing. He's averaging seven yards and carry. 418 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: He's got sixty two receptions. Alvin Camara is basically who 419 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: Reggie Bush who you thought he would be when he started. 420 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: He that's Alvin Camaro right now. And I know how 421 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: much the Saints value him, and I know how mu 422 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: Showing Dayton values him. I know how much Drew Brees 423 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: values him. And anytime they can get the ball in 424 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: his hands, they want to do it. And uh That's 425 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: why I think when when he was playing uh and 426 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: got concussed against the Falcons, the game plan changed and 427 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: they had they couldn't make get it done on the 428 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: fly because They're so relying on him a lot of times. 429 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see if he can't go what 430 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: that does to the Saints offense. But yeah, it's a 431 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: the draft class. I mean, I just rotted off all 432 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: those guys. They are all four starters essentially, They're all 433 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: four major difference makers for the Saints team right away. 434 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: You talk about Lattimore and Williams, the two defensive rookies, 435 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: the Saints first and second round picks. How do you 436 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: go about attacking this defense? Is it in the middle, 437 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: is it on the outside opposite Lattimore? What's been the 438 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: theme there? Well, when teams have had success, it's it's 439 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: really been more about and a lot a lot of 440 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: teams have had success, to be honest with you, because look, 441 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: those first two losses, they weren't playing well at all. 442 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,959 Speaker 1: Marshawn Lattimore wasn't the guy yet, and they Ken Crawley 443 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: wasn't even starting. He was inactive the first two games, 444 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: a healthy and active, and then they figured, let's throw 445 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: this kid out there. He's an undrafted guy, second year 446 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: in the league. UH, and he's become a solid player. 447 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: So I think once they got that going, I think 448 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: it's hard to to attack. Look like Matt Ryan his 449 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: quarterback rating last week was fifty five, and so I 450 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: think what you've got to be able to do is 451 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: you've got to be able to run the football effectively 452 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 1: against the Saints. UH. And So because I think if 453 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: you want to attack a side at the defensive front. 454 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: It would probably be beside opposite Cam Jordan because Alexoka 455 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: for suffering achilles injury a couple of weeks ago against 456 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: Washington and they have not found a replacement for him, 457 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: and they're banged up over there. So if you want 458 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: to attack there, maybe run the football that way. But 459 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: one of the big things there's that the scenes. Their 460 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: their past rush overall hasn't been great, but it's it 461 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: becomes great when the coverage and we saw Matt Ryan 462 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: have to hold the ball a lot longer than I'm 463 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: seeing him have to hold the ball Saints in the past, 464 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: he's holding on the ball because he can't find open guys, 465 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: and I think that's a big key to the success 466 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: of the Saints. So I would say, and if you're 467 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: talking past the game, just don't throw up Marshall Lattimore. 468 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: Larry Holder is a columnist for NOLA dot Com. This 469 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: is the Jets Saints game preview on Official Jets Podcast. Larry, 470 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: what was your interaction like UH with John Morton during 471 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: his time? There are a couple of stints with the 472 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: Saints and UM, how happy do you think Sean Payton is? 473 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: UH for Morton this year working with a lot of 474 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: different pieces. Throwout last week's game. The Jets offense has 475 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: done a lot of good things in two thousand and seventeen. Yeah, look, 476 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: I could tell you, yeah with with John Morton, Uh, 477 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: he worked, he helped mold Michael Thomas. I mean, I 478 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: could tell you that he was a wide receiver coach. Uh, 479 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: and he had a lot of good pieces. He was 480 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 1: working with Michael Thomas, he was working with Brandon Cooks. 481 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think he's someone who knows the passing game. 482 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: And I think the fact that you're able to see 483 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: a little bit of that, you know, you had that 484 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: with Josh McCown, uh, you know before the injury, and 485 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: he was kind of making some things happen with some 486 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: pieces you might not have figured. And so I think 487 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: that's you know, John Morton probably brought a lot of 488 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: the pieces that he learned from Sean Payton to the 489 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: puzzle with the Jets, And yeah, I thought he made 490 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: he certainly made the receiving corps better when uh, while 491 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: he was here, because before that, uh, you know, the 492 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: pieces weren't that great and uh kind of in a 493 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: transition phase. But yeah, I think the work he did 494 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: with the wide receivers in New Orleans was excellent. Uh, 495 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: there's a reason why, Uh the Jets sought out to 496 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: go get him. And like he's definitely done a better 497 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: job than I thought he would have given the pieces 498 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: and the kind of the hand he was dealt up 499 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: there in his first year, up there with New Orleans, 500 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: where they're at an NFC self, with Carolina right there 501 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: with Atlanta right there, is there any chance they could 502 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: overlook this game? Well, look, there's been a lot of 503 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: counters because it was a conversation after the Falcon game, 504 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: because it was a heated game, and uh, like the 505 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: Saints are they we're talking to my boy. They can't 506 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: wait to see them in a couple of weeks for 507 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve. But I do think that the Saints, uh, 508 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: and they've been very good about this. They haven't uh 509 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: you know, they haven't lost two opponents where they should 510 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: have lost. You know that every opponent they lost to 511 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: have been a good teams. They haven't overlooked teams at all. 512 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: And I all I think they gotta do is look 513 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: at the landscape of the NFC, which even though you 514 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: could see you could tell me all you want that, 515 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: they're not. I know they are. Uh. Calana is right 516 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: on you, Atlanta's right on you. You've got to win 517 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 1: every game just to stay afloat, so you can't afford 518 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: to be looking ahead. Uh And I think the scenes 519 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: team has done a very good job of not doing that. 520 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: Uh And so I don't anticipate them looking ahead of 521 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: the Jets, knowing just the dynamic and the landscape of 522 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: the NFC at the NF outstanding stuff from Larry Holder. 523 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: You can follow him and read him at NOLA dot com. Larry, 524 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing you on Sunday at the Super 525 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: Doll All right, thank you guys. Ea. What really stook 526 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: out to me what Larry said was of the Saints 527 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: first four draft choices, they're all starting, and they're all 528 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: extremely effective. You know, just looking at this draft class 529 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: right now, when you see Lattimore and you see Kimara, 530 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: you could say, Wow, we might be looking back at 531 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: this draft class in ten to fifteen years and saying 532 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: this is one of the better draft classes we've seen 533 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: it along. I also think that Marcus Williams and I 534 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: could be wrong on this, but I believe this is 535 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: that Marcus Williams is the equivalent of Marcus May here, 536 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: and that Marshawn Lattimore was the first selection for the Saints. 537 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: He gets the name recognition. He's been playing very well, 538 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: similar to Jamal Adams. And then Marcus Williams is doing 539 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: a nice job in the back making sure everyone's set upright, 540 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: similar Marcus. Yeah, you know, it takes a village back there. 541 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: And Larry Holders said that Lattimore takes away a side 542 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: of the field. But with that being said, the other 543 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: thing that I noticed myself watching the game Thursday night 544 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: between New Orleans and Atlanta was Matt Ryan went back 545 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: to throw off and he didn't have open receivers down 546 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: the field where you saw Atlanta half some success was 547 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: actually running the football. Jets are different scheme wise, but 548 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: again that's where it goes back to balance. But their 549 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 1: secondary is pretty good. We talk a lot about energy 550 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: on the road and how the Jets need to create 551 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: their own energy. Maybe they'll get a boost from the 552 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: Louisiana boys going back down south. H Yeah, you know, 553 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: and we talked about the running backs. But obviously Jamal 554 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 1: Adams uh six overall pick from LSU and a sixth 555 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: overall pick in two thousand and twelve was a guy 556 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: by the name of Morris Clayborne. He's a Louisiana native, 557 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: so a lot of guys have connections, um, you know, 558 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: But you know this is this is a monstrous test 559 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: and this begins an unbelievable end of the schedule for 560 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: the Jets. And we knew that before the season when 561 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: the schedule makers put this one out in April. But 562 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: you're looking at three Hall of Fame quarterbacks, potentially in 563 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: Breeze is definitely going to Hall of Fame Philip Rivers 564 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve. The Chargers are in a battle for 565 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: the a f C West right now. They got a 566 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: monstrous game against Kansas City this weekend. But you know, 567 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: you look at his regular season statistics and say, yeah, 568 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: he looks like a Hall of Fame quarterback. And Tom 569 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: Brady is going to Hall of Fame. And Bill Belichick 570 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: typically doesn't rest players late in the season, no matter 571 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: what's happened. So all three of these teams to me, 572 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: on paper, look like they have a potential to be 573 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: playing late in January. And I even include the Chargers 574 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: in that mix. And right now, as it stands, they 575 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: all have something to play for, so you know they're 576 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: gonna bringing their a game. And I'm glad you mentioned 577 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: Drew Brees just because he's having a tremendous year. And 578 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: I know the Saints rushing attack is surpassed the passing 579 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: attack this season, which has been an anomaly, like Larry 580 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: Holder said, but Brees has been putting up great numbers. 581 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: He leaves the NFL and completion percentage, completing one percent 582 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: of his passes. And oh, by the way, his top 583 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: target is Michael Thomas in Ohio State Products, who has 584 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: been phenomenal. I really think the Jets, you know, and 585 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: there's no moral victories in the National Football League, but 586 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: you just want to give yourself, put yourself in a 587 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: position where you're in a ball game in the second half, 588 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: because by and large this year of Green's we've been 589 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: covering a football team that's been giving people fits or 590 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: has been winning games. And you know, we're wall passed 591 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: talking about fourth quarter blong fourth quarter leads at this point. 592 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: What the Jets want to do now, especially after last 593 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: week has coming to New Orleans and to compete and 594 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: to be in the ball game late all right, Before 595 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: we wrap up here, one final question is if you 596 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: could pinpoint the single most important category I'll say for 597 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: this weekend, whether it be offense or defense, for the 598 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 1: New York Jets to put themselves in a position in 599 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: the second half to be competitive. Like we just said, 600 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: what is it? Well, I think they need some momentum 601 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,239 Speaker 1: change in place, and I wouldn't anticipate they will be 602 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: in Let's just say that. I think you throw the 603 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: Denver game out, you'll learn from it. Uh, this is 604 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: a different matchup. But they need some momentum changing plays. 605 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: They have to be the ones who turns New Orleans over, 606 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: or they have a block punt or maybe a long return, 607 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: or maybe Bryce Petty comes out and it's a d 608 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: R touchdown to Robbie Anderson. I'm just saying they need 609 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: a few big plays this week for you gotta go 610 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: and make some big plays. And on that note, that's 611 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: all we have this week on the official Jets podcast, 612 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: Jets Saints this weekend Week fifteen, as the Jets traveled 613 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: down to the Big easy Ferraic Allen, I'm eating Greenberg, 614 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: m m m m hm h