WEBVTT - Congressman Jake Ellzey of Texas Talks Tariffs and Border

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news Bloomberg's Julie Fines both

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<v Speaker 1>with Congressman Jake Lz of Texas. They discussed the latest

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<v Speaker 1>on Trump administration, tariff's decisions at the border, and the

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<v Speaker 1>aftermath of the DC air crash.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything Donald Trump does about one subject is the opening

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<v Speaker 2>of a negotiation, and that's exactly what this is. I

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<v Speaker 2>liken it to a bottle of diet coke that you

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<v Speaker 2>throw mentos in. It gets everybody upset, but it gets

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<v Speaker 2>them to the table talking. So that's the opening gamut

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<v Speaker 2>on what we're going to talk about on trade.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so that's the opening gambit. But let's say there

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<v Speaker 3>are tariffs again. Are you concerned it's going to hurt

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<v Speaker 3>the economy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, of course everybody is going to be concerned about that,

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<v Speaker 2>But the short term hurt for America is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a long term gain. That's the going in position

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<v Speaker 2>of the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 4>In your opinion, our tariff's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I think in the past that in in this particular case,

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of getting them to the table will lead

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<v Speaker 2>to no tariff center renegotiation for our country.

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<v Speaker 4>So you viewed this as a deterrent.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And remember he already did this with Columbia. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna slap twenty five percent on you today because

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't take these flights of illegal immigrants. And they said,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, we'll take them now. Okay, Tariff's gone,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So that's the opening gambit.

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<v Speaker 3>But Colombia is a much different trading partner than Mexico

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<v Speaker 3>or camp Absolutely, it is I want to move to

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<v Speaker 3>something that has been is just so difficult?

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<v Speaker 4>Is this plane crash? And you have some insight into this.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you were a fighter pilot for the Navy, you

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<v Speaker 3>flew helicopters. You were also a commercial air pilot for

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<v Speaker 3>Southwest Airlines. I mean, first of all, you look at

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<v Speaker 3>this and you think, how does this even happen?

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<v Speaker 4>How does this happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Nighttime brings a lot of uncertainty to aircraft operations around

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<v Speaker 2>any airport. Reagan National Airport has operated concurrently with military

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<v Speaker 2>aircraft specific helicopters in B twenty two's in the Washington

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<v Speaker 2>Basin for many, many years. Something went terribly wrong. I

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<v Speaker 2>do think that you'll see some changes coming out of

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<v Speaker 2>this with concurrent commercial airline traffic and helicopter operations in

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<v Speaker 2>the Washington Basin, and this is a terrible tragedy. And

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<v Speaker 2>I will say this as a pilot. I flew sixties, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the one like the one that was involved in the mishap.

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<v Speaker 2>Every pilot on the planet has an opinion of what

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<v Speaker 2>happened on that tragic day, none of which are helpful

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<v Speaker 2>to the investigation. The investigation, they got both data recorders

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll get to I'm sure everybody is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be working on getting to a determination on what happened

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<v Speaker 2>as quickly as possible. And when that determination comes back

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<v Speaker 2>and the NTSB, which is the lead agency on this,

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<v Speaker 2>comes out with a report, I'd be happy to come

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<v Speaker 2>back and talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Then, right after this happens, President Trump said, quote DEI

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<v Speaker 3>policies quote could have been to blame for the crash.

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<v Speaker 3>When asked how he came to that conclusion, he added,

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<v Speaker 3>quote because I have common sense. He says this during

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<v Speaker 3>a news conference that is right after the crash the

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<v Speaker 3>next morning, as the investigation obviously is still going on.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that every American in twenty twenty five is

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<v Speaker 2>upset that this could possibly happen in our nation's capital

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<v Speaker 2>with such a large loss of life, that doesn't make

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<v Speaker 2>any sense to anybody. So I think he was merely

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<v Speaker 2>showing the emotion that all of us have on an

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<v Speaker 2>incident that is as tragic as this, And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's probably what's reflected there. And I'd go on to

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<v Speaker 2>say that that sectif Hegseth did a video talking about this,

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<v Speaker 2>this mishap, and I think that everybody's just upset at this.

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<v Speaker 3>Point, but upset he's pointing to DEI is that the

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<v Speaker 3>right place to point here?

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<v Speaker 2>I think everybody's just looking.

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<v Speaker 4>For answers, and do you think that's an answer.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that he's looking for answers for why such

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<v Speaker 2>a tragedy that hadn't occurred in the United States in

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen years could possibly happen today, possibly happen in downtown Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>d C. Possibly happened with all loss of life on board.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's pure emotion talking there.

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<v Speaker 4>You sit on the Appropriations committee.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to turn to the border right now, because

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<v Speaker 3>we are in a border state.

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<v Speaker 4>Borders.

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<v Speaker 3>Are Tom homans that it could be eighty six billion

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<v Speaker 3>dollars for border plans?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think that amount is likely? Do you think

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<v Speaker 4>he'll get it from the committee.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Here's what's going on now. So we have the House,

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<v Speaker 2>we have the Senate, and we have the White House.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going to put anything on the floor that

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump doesn't want. So if Donald Trump wants eighty

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<v Speaker 2>six billion dollars for border security, and Tom Holman, his

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<v Speaker 2>his closest advisor, as well as Christy Nolans, the Secretary

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<v Speaker 2>of Homeland Security, says that's the number, that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the number because we check within District six, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the number one issue to taxpayers in District six is

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<v Speaker 2>border security and Republican voters and most of the country,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think the election showed that. So yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do everything we can because we got to

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<v Speaker 2>play some ketchup talking.

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<v Speaker 3>About mass deportations, which is part of this eighty six

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<v Speaker 3>billion dollars. I've heard many people say that should be

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<v Speaker 3>the criminals first, that should be the first priority. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the presidents said that, Tom Homan has said that. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you think, though, after that, that people that have built

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<v Speaker 3>their lives here, children that are born here birthright citizenship,

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<v Speaker 3>do you think they should be deported as well?

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<v Speaker 2>If they're here illegally they've got to go back and

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<v Speaker 2>get in line.

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<v Speaker 3>So you think that anybody that's here illegally should be deported.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the administration has taken the tack that

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<v Speaker 2>if they're here illegally, they can self identify and come

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<v Speaker 2>up with another means of getting registered. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what the plan is. The administration has been in power

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<v Speaker 2>for two weeks. But if you're here illegally, you're here illegally,

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<v Speaker 2>you are breaking the law. And I think that that

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<v Speaker 2>is the tac that the Trump administration and his cabinet

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<v Speaker 2>has taken, and that's what they are executing as the

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<v Speaker 2>executive branch.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Texas Congressman Jake Elsie speaking with Bloomberg's Julie

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<v Speaker 1>Fine