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Speaker 1: What are we even do?

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Speaker 2: What are we even doing? Hi?

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Speaker 1: I'm Kyle McLachlin. We are what are we even doing? Show?

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Speaker 1: Host of the show. My grammar has completely changed this morning.

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Speaker 1: We are sitting down with your favorite actors, musicians, and

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Speaker 1: creatives to talk their creativity, how they use social media,

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Speaker 1: and this wild world that we're in. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: weird in a good way. Today. We have a very

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Speaker 1: cool person with us. Stop until is here.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: You're a self proclaimed NEPO friend, but you also have

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Speaker 1: this fantastic podcast which I was like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I've said it, but no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: listen all everything works here. But your podcast and your

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Speaker 1: Dreams is really creative and smart and I've watched and

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Speaker 1: it's brilliant. We were just talking about the setting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is so cool.

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Speaker 1: Like you're sitting in bed, just chit chat.

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Speaker 2: I'm in bed. My whole thing is that I don't sleep.

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Speaker 2: I sleep two hours a night.

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Speaker 1: This is interesting because I want to ask you about

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Speaker 1: that too. As you can see, I'm you know, I've

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Speaker 1: got the or ring on here. So you don't even

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Speaker 1: bother with that problem?

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Speaker 2: Wow? No, so you you you sleep? You're a sleeper. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I am not.

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Speaker 1: And this is why I'm curious to talk about this,

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Speaker 1: because I have tremendous anxiety, like a three or or

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Speaker 1: four in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Why do you call me okay because I'm up? Sign

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Speaker 2: me I'm up to I I don't. I don't use

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Speaker 2: that because it would just tell me that I'm dying.

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Speaker 2: You should not that I'm dead. Yeah, yeah, right, Oh

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Speaker 2: my god.

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Speaker 1: Interesting.

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Speaker 2: It's anxiety. But it's more than that. I think. I

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Speaker 2: think I was like hardwired. My mom is like, well,

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Speaker 2: it's a long I was adopted at birth, so basically

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Speaker 2: it can't be genetic, but somehow it is. Okay, it's nurture,

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Speaker 2: it's not nature. My mom sleeps two hours a night,

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Speaker 2: therefore I sleep two hours a night, but she sleeps

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Speaker 2: different two hours than me. I sleep four to six

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Speaker 2: and she sleeps like two to four. So like right

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Speaker 2: when I'm going to sleep, she's kind of waking up.

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Speaker 2: She's greening the day.

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Speaker 1: It's a perfect relationship.

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Speaker 2: That's great. It's the best in the world.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Do you think because one one theory

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Speaker 1: I have is because my wife also struggles to get

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Speaker 1: to sleep because at a certain time of the evening

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Speaker 1: and my son too. They kick into creative mode. So

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Speaker 1: come eleven o'clock, eleven thirty, she's suddenly getting amped up

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Speaker 1: about stuff that she wants to do totally, totally, and

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Speaker 1: I think, and I'm wondering, does that happen to me?

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Speaker 2: I wish that happened to me, that it would mean

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Speaker 2: that I have creative thoughts. No, sometimes it does. Like

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Speaker 2: the podcast me not Sleeping and then turning it into

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Speaker 2: a podcast where I talk to people about not sleeping

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Speaker 2: in the middle of the night. That all came to

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Speaker 2: me in the middle of the night when I couldn't sleep. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but that was kind of the last creative thought I had.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but ideas. I think it's strange because ideas they

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Speaker 1: come to me like in that time. So if I

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Speaker 1: back to sleep, if I'm working on something, that's when

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Speaker 1: I say, okay, I'm going to run through the scenes

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Speaker 1: in my brain. Total it's a dialoge or you'll have

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Speaker 1: it like an idea like oh I got to do

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Speaker 1: this or don't forget to do that. It is definitely yeah,

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Speaker 1: like an OCD thing. It's just it's like, oh gotta,

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Speaker 2: I am an inventor at night, Like I come up

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Speaker 2: with new inventions in the middle.

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Speaker 1: Of the night kind of invention, so elaborate.

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Speaker 2: They're not good.

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Speaker 1: Well, nothing is. Just like the songwriters that think they

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Speaker 1: have the greatest song and they sing a few things

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Speaker 1: into a microphone and you get up in the morning and.

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Speaker 2: It's like you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, little star, and

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Speaker 2: you're like, I came up with that. I came up

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Speaker 2: with this genius idea. I actually think it's genius. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's called the pro file. So it's an electronic nail

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Speaker 2: filer that you put on your finger on your on

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Speaker 2: your hand right and you can click square, round, diamond,

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Speaker 2: like any shape you want, almond, whatever, and it does it,

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Speaker 2: and there's a safety feature. Don't worry, it won't hurt you.

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Speaker 2: And then boom, you take it off and your nail's

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Speaker 2: perfectly filed. I'm sorry, that's brilliant.

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Speaker 1: It's a brilliant I think I'm going to suggest that

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Speaker 1: to the Fallout crew. But the problem is it will

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Speaker 1: finger will be down to here. It's like it was

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Speaker 2: It's hilarious, I think mine, Yeah, that would happen to me,

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Speaker 2: by the way, I would be the face of something

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Speaker 2: that like, yeah, literally they come out with no fingers. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well yeah, well my nails look good, complete no fingers.

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Speaker 2: I think it's really smart. Yeah, I think there's something

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Speaker 1: I think you well, and because you can just do

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Speaker 1: it without even sort of while you're doing other things right.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, And who doesn't be that you doing exactly? And

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Speaker 2: I know my dad doesn't like to go into manicures

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Speaker 2: because he thinks it not because of he just thinks

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Speaker 2: it takes too long. He's like, I don't like to

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Speaker 2: sit there for forty five minutes, right, So I think

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Speaker 2: this would be great for him.

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Speaker 1: That's perfect. He could compose and do all the things

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Speaker 1: he's he's an amazing composer. I mean, you know, that's

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Speaker 1: very cool. Growing up was music around the house all

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. It was so frustrating. I couldn't do anything.

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Speaker 2: I would get home from from school and my dad

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Speaker 2: would be playing the piano and be like, come sit

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Speaker 1: It was so beautiful. Now you look back and go, oh, well.

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Speaker 2: Right now, I'm like, oh my god, what a sweet time.

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Speaker 2: When I was in it, I was like, hey, I

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Speaker 2: actually only want to listen to Kesha, Like why are

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Speaker 1: This whatever?

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Speaker 2: Right exactly, I'm like, I don't care about this. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know it was. It was frustrating. But he's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's wonderful.

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Speaker 2: He can play any instrument. You give him an instrumental

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Speaker 1: That is a skill I wish I had. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can play a little piano, a little guitar.

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Speaker 2: That's you can play instrument.

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Speaker 1: That's a fit. But but no wind instruments. Don't ask

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Speaker 2: If you could just pick up a violin, my dad could.

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Speaker 1: Though. The thing that people that they have this this

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Speaker 1: how's this bagpipe?

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Speaker 2: So that's well, the bagpipes are rusting, no joking. I've

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Speaker 2: actually never I wish he was here so we could

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Speaker 2: throw some bagpipes. Yeah. No, I'm good with the tambourine

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Speaker 2: and that's about.

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Speaker 1: That's tricky and c thank you. Don't let them think

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Speaker 1: it's not. Because there's the shaking and the rattling and

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Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. I'm my leg every once in

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Speaker 1: Your favorite song is my green tambourine. That's what I know.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, of course.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so listen you You've had a very interesting upbringing childhood.

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Speaker 1: Was there a moment I just asked this question the

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Speaker 1: core memory, Okay, moment you're like, hey, I think this

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Speaker 1: an inkling or something that inspired you. Is there anything

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Speaker 2: You imagine I cry for views. No, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: Everything's allowed here.

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Speaker 2: There was hair We did hairspray at my elementary school.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, And I was eleven, and I really really

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Speaker 2: really wanted to be the lead of Hairspray. I didn't

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Speaker 2: I didn't want I was like, that's a minor role

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Speaker 2: I remember auditioning and they were like, what's going on here?

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Speaker 1: There is something great about that, right, the confidence as

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Speaker 1: a kid, right, you have it. I didn't have it,

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Speaker 1: you didn't. But I recognize my son. He's seventeen. He's

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Speaker 1: very confident. Really sometimes I'm like, where do you get

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Speaker 2: But seventeen is still a it's old enough. I think

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Speaker 2: that's when I lost my confidence. For sixteen is when

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Speaker 2: I lost my confidence. Okay, yeah, so it's amazing that

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Speaker 1: It's it's remarkable and we're like, okay, go the creative

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Speaker 1: there's a community he created with overcompensating of course, so

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Speaker 1: many of his friends, people that he knew, and he

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Speaker 1: just welcomed me into that world. Yeah, and it's kind

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just an extraordinary person.

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Speaker 2: He's the best and he is a great connector. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's a great connector. There's very few he like doesn't

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Speaker 2: gate keep anyone in his life, which is such a

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Speaker 2: beautiful quality. I feel like I gate keep every every

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Speaker 2: best friend that I have, I'm like in their mind

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Speaker 2: and you never know them that is so interesting, which

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Speaker 2: is so not him, which is the most beautiful, perfect

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Speaker 2: quality and a human being.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hadn't thought about like that, but you're absolutely.

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Speaker 1: My wife shares that, which, which is amazing. Doesn't gate

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Speaker 1: keep it all. She likes, let's get these people together

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Speaker 1: because whatever that combination is going to be better. And

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Speaker 2: By the way, my favorite show ever. Do you want

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Speaker 2: I told him I was coming on your podcast, and

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Speaker 1: But well, get him, you know, aging down and it'll

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Speaker 2: I would love to be a desperate housewife.

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Speaker 1: It would be amazing. Wasn't who wasn't? Wait? Is Carrie Washington?

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Speaker 1: Let's get this podcast.

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Speaker 2: You're lying. It's called the Steria Lane. You want to

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Speaker 1: my god, how are you you know?

434
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Speaker 2: So sweet?

435
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,199
Speaker 1: You both route two actors, you know, shopping as you do?

436
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 1: She was, I actually do, but I have to be

437
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,919
Speaker 1: in the mood. I like to I like to cook,

438
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 1: so I like to go with a intent. You know,

439
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to the grocery store and I'm going to

440
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 1: get this, this, thiseness to prepare a thing, you know what

441
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 1: I mean. So I like that, but it's time consuming,

442
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,479
Speaker 1: but I do love it. You like to cook? Are

443
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,639
Speaker 1: you new you near cooking?

444
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 2: I used a pan that I shouldn't have used. I

445
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 2: didn't realize it was there's a certain pan that you

446
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,159
Speaker 2: put in the microwave. Do you know this? Yes, that

447
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 2: you like cover? So I put that.

448
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 1: Over the paint, okay, thinking it would ye, thinking it

449
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 1: would keep keep it.

450
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm an inventor. And it melted and

451
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 2: then it actually melted onto the to the stove, and

452
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 2: then it was so hot that it was burning the stove.

453
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 2: It was a disaster. So my landlord came over to

454
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 2: fix something else, and then she was like, hey, so

455
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 2: the stove's burnt melted, And then I was like.

456
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 1: What, So did you say anything? You were just like,

457
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 1: oh no.

458
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know that.

459
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 1: I guess I can't use that for a while.

460
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, So that's kind of She's like, I'll fix it.

461
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 2: She fixed it very kind, but I haven't touched it since.

462
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, maybe time to get back on the horse.

463
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 1: You could do it.

464
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 2: I do this weird thing where when I'm at a restaurant,

465
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 2: I don't finish my food, but I'll take it to

466
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 2: go and then in the car I'll eat it. I

467
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 2: have like a weird thing. I'm like, I like to

468
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 2: be like cozy when I eat. I think, so, I like.

469
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had years and years and years ago friend

470
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 1: and they had a room with a giant bed, like

471
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 1: a two or three times size really, and so you

472
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 1: could watch TV, you could hang on. They had kids

473
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,439
Speaker 1: and hang out with the kids, and then everybody just

474
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: fell asleep. You, I mean, here's here's a thought. So

475
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I'm just getting started on my podcast.

476
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 1: Do you have any like, you know, advice or thoughts

477
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 1: or advice or like this has worked for me, or

478
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: just nothing. Just have a conversation. Not that I've modeled

479
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: it after you, but I think you've taken the right

480
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 1: direction into what I'm falling into naturally, which is just

481
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 1: really a conversation. So you start with a few questions,

482
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 1: you have a few prompts, and then you just kind

483
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: of let's go.

484
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: Well, so you know, my whole thing is there are

485
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 2: people who can ask unbelievably detailed, perfect questions, and those

486
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: are the Alex Coopers of the world, and they're amazing

487
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 2: at what they do. I do the opposite, where I

488
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 2: make people very uncomfortable and I don't think so. No,

489
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 2: I like to just talk and there's a clickbaity thing

490
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 2: that comes out of it. That's fun, and that's great,

491
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 2: and more clicks for me great, but that's not what

492
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm in it for. I'm actually like very much in

493
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,479
Speaker 2: it to just talk to my friends. It started as

494
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 2: a podcast for just me and my friends, really like

495
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,719
Speaker 2: I just I had you know, Benny on it, and

496
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 2: I had Rachel Sen it and I'm a Chamberlain and

497
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 2: I had just my best friends sitting in a bed

498
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 2: with me talking. And then now it's become more like, Oh,

499
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 2: I'm actually really interested in this person. Can we get

500
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 2: them on just so I can talk to them? My podcast, yes,

501
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 2: is all just a conversation, and people get really bored

502
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: of it. People are like, hey, wanted to hear something juicy. Oh,

503
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 2: that's just not what you're gonna do.

504
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: No, No, the same thing here, I really want. I

505
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: don't want it to be that way, and as you said,

506
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: it's sort of wherever we drift, wherever the guests comfortable

507
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: talking or uncomfortable talking. It's like and sharing stuff and

508
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: sharing stories. That's really kind of the whole point of it.

509
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: So totally, totally, so all to say, I think you're

510
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 2: doing great. I don't have any advice for you. I

511
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: think you should call ale Skipper.

512
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: Yeah she's yeah, she is. She's amazing. I saw her

513
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 1: as she didn't talk recently that I was at, and

514
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 1: journalists like you said, like, really, she's a businesswoman.

515
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 2: I'm part of the Unwell network under her technically. So

516
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 2: she took us all to Unwell Vegas, which is like

517
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: a trip.

518
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: Oh she was at so funny. She was at Google

519
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: is that geist? Just before? And then she was going

520
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: to Vegas that same day that I saw her.

521
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 2: See that's what I mean. Who goes to Google to

522
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 2: do a panel and then goes to Vegas to host

523
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 2: an event? Like that's insane. So she was at Vegas

524
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 2: and all I was just looking around at all these

525
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: people Unwell talent they're called, like, who all have podcasts

526
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god, this is like

527
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 2: you've built a network that's crazy. That's really crazy. It's

528
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: really smart agency and now an ad agency. And yeah,

529
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: like she's partnered. She partnered with serious exam and it's

530
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: just like she's there's I can't say.

531
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: This partnerships building those partnerships. Tell me about his face tune?

532
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 1: How does this work? Can you? I need a phone

533
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: for it?

534
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 2: I have my phone. I oh my god, my dad

535
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: texted me a hundred times everything. Can you text your

536
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: dad and ask if he does know how to play

537
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: the bagpipes? Because then we would know that's call him.

538
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 2: Let's call my dad.

539
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: I don't know why I asked that question.

540
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 2: I love it. It's brilliant. He's gonna be like, what

541
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: the hell, Dad, I'm on a podcast and so you're live?

542
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: Hello, I.

543
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: Hi, how are you? He's so impressed.

544
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm impressed.

545
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: Why is my son with somebody of your staf? Okay, dad, Dad,

546
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 2: do you know how to play the bagpipes? No? Could you? Maybe?

547
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: But it's not going to be I love that.

548
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 2: We were just I was just saying that you could

549
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: probably play any instrument.

550
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing. Of course you could. Of course you.

551
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: Could, of course you could. Okay, Dad in the world, Well,

552
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: thank you I'm moving up in the world. He's so

553
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 2: impressed by the way. Anytime I'm I I've a dad,

554
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: I'm hanging up on you. I'm very, very How do

555
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: I say this in a way that doesn't make me

556
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 2: seem like a total idiot. I got a Vogue interview

557
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 2: written about me, which was the biggest thing that's ever

558
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: happened to me, and I was literally crying to my

559
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 2: parents and I sent them and I was like facetiming them.

560
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 2: My dad literally was like this cool, I'm on your podcast.

561
00:25:54,680 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: My dad's he's literally becoming himself. It. I love that,

562
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: just a few moments that relationship.

563
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: I love that he that you guys have that relationship

564
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: because it's like there's a teasing there, which I think

565
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: is really great.

566
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 2: But very impressing. So thank you for honestly, you made

567
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 2: us closer, I think because of this, So thank you. Okay,

568
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: what do you want me to tell you about face tune?

569
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, show me how to work this.

570
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: I am obsessed with it.

571
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, and.

572
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 2: It's so bad and I probably shouldn't say this publicly

573
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 2: because nobody should be. I want to make a disclaimer.

574
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: Nobody needs to face tune use your normal face. We

575
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 2: love natural features, right, we every all of that. I'm

576
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: getting older.

577
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: I could use face too. Let's learn.

578
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: So let's take a photo of us. Can we take

579
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: a selfie?

580
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, scheck them over.

581
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: Let's do like this, lean in Okay, okay, oh my god,

582
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: that is bad of me. So this is gonna be fun.

583
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: So then okay, you're gonna go face. Okay, so first

584
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: of all, we take this, let me put this on.

585
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: Do not just stir because my dad's texting me saying

586
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: I cannot believe I just met Kyle. He's very happy. Okay,

587
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: So we can't do you because you look great. I

588
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: don't you look fabulous?

589
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: Strange?

590
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 2: You look great. Let's do me. So I looks to

591
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 2: your looks. I'm obsessed. Are you ready? And you get sharp, glance, fierce, gentle, blush, sleek,

592
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: charm or classic. These are the things I could click on.

593
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: So let's click.

594
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: I usually like opression or is it no? This is

595
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: just for like what it does to your face. So

596
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: I usually like blush. Okay, you can adjust that, so

597
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: you adjust it. Okay, let's do charm and see what happens. Okay,

598
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 2: I'm really obsessed. Charm makes you a little smirk. Charm

599
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 2: gives you a little smirk. Blush gives you a little

600
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: blushka sleek gives you a little eye. Sharp gives you

601
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 2: a little jaw. This is so I just gave myself so.

602
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: It's real subtle. It sounds like, are you can adjust it?

603
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 2: Well, it's subtle until I turned it to one hundred.

604
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: And I also retouch it so then you get all

605
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 2: the wrinkles out. I do. This is what I do

606
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 2: every single time I'm upset.

607
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: Oh, I see, so you can actually touch the screen

608
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: and move.

609
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 2: And you understand that when I send photos to my friends,

610
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: I will have face tune them.

611
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm sick, No, I understand. No, I'm not well,

612
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm obses and now I'm going to be obsessed with it.

613
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: This is going to be kind.

614
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: I face tuned my auditions. There's videos. Wait, do you

615
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: want to hear the most embarrassing thing. The other day

616
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: I was doing press and they said like, can you

617
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 2: send us some photos for this article? And I was like,

618
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: of course, obviously face tuned sent it. It's said on

619
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 2: the title of the image was face tune one one

620
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: one one two two No. And then they wrote back

621
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: is this edited ghosted them?

622
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm not going to you. So do they have to

623
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: put that on when they send it? You know, it's

624
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: like Getty images. You can't get rid of that.

625
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god, can you imagine? I love face tune.

626
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: I love it. I I stand by it and I

627
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: a lot of people, and it is. It's very wrong.

628
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: I do. I really need to tell you it's wrong,

629
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: because we should all embrace our natural features. But not me,

630
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: not you.

631
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: You don't have to.

632
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: Sorry, but everyone else definitely should. And guess what when

633
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: you do a natural face. My mom posted a beautiful photo,

634
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: completely natural. Guess what I commented beautiful? Now I posted

635
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: a photo completely unnatural. She's gonna have to comment beautiful.

636
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: Yes, I could see your process. That's by the way,

637
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: your face is perfect.

638
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: It's not. And yeah, well it's not good, thank you.

639
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: It is from in this like, well, we're going to.

640
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: Face this, right, the whole episode is going to.

641
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: Be face doing and we're going to voice tune it.

642
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: Well, so a voice to smart.

643
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: Although I do want to hear about your upcoming project.

644
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: I want to hear about this with Ilonic Brazers.

645
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: I think she's going to love her.

646
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah.

647
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: It's my favorite person. It's it's it's about my life

648
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: growing up black and Jewish and gay in an all

649
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 2: white family.

650
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Speaker 1: Benny's is she is he kind of inspiration for you know,

651
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Speaker 1: he was telling kind of his story and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely definitely. We we I mean, I think, what's

653
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Speaker 2: so amazing about this new kind of era of comedies

654
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Speaker 2: starting with Girls in Fleabag and Broad City and there's

655
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Speaker 2: just we're we're kind of ushering in diverse voices hopefully,

656
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Speaker 2: And it's been very cool to work with Amazon and

657
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: working with Amazon supportive and they've been so supportive and

658
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: so positive. And here's the deal, if it never sees

659
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: the light of day, it's been amazing to work with Alana.

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Speaker 2: It's been wonderful. I it's it's working with an idol

661
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: of mine. I watched Broad City growing up, probably my

662
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: my comfort show. I keep going back to it and

663
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: it never gets old. And so to work with her

664
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Speaker 2: is a dream.

665
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Speaker 1: She's brilliant.

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Speaker 2: She's brilliant. And Susie Esmond's attached to play my mother,

667
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Speaker 2: and which is so funny because she played her mom

668
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: on Broad City. So it's like it's such a fun

669
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: project and it's it's all funny, it's hard funny, but

670
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Speaker 2: also it is about me realizing I'm black in this

671
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: all white world. So there's of course some like moments.

672
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Speaker 2: Of course, of real.

673
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Speaker 1: You have to have. I mean, it overcomes any same thing.

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Speaker 1: You have to have moments otherwise the other stuff doesn't work.

675
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: Exactly. You have to have you have to have that.

676
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: You know what's the pain, so you can have the

677
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Speaker 1: fun totally totally.

678
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: So where's the trauma? Yes, yes, yes, And how did it?

679
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: How did it manifest? And how did you deal with it?

680
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly? And I dealt with it by being obsessively

681
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: codependent with my mother which is why she slept in

682
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: my dorm for a week week but ever time my

683
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: boyfriend's away, she sleeps over at my house. No, it's

684
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: not all Kyle, It's very weird. No, But I'm definitely

685
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Speaker 2: inspired by Benny. I think what Benny has done with

686
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Speaker 2: his story by making it's obviously very very based on

687
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Speaker 2: his life, but also he's just added such color to

688
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: it and the people he's brought in. He's brought in

689
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: all of his friends. It's like my dream, My dream

690
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: is to make something where I'm like wait, I want

691
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: to put in plug in all my funniest best friends. Yeah,

692
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: talk about this, this this story that I've I've lived.

693
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he makes them work as you will within

694
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Speaker 1: their they're they're not their personality necessarily. But you think

695
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: I think of think of Marybeth. It's like she's perfect

696
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: as his sister, and she's and in the family and

697
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,239
Speaker 1: so she's being true to kind of her comedy, but

698
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: also true to the relationship within the family and what

699
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: that dynamic is. And I think that's where he's he's

700
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Speaker 1: really smart. It puts people in the in the place

701
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: where they're going to be.

702
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: He lets them shine. It's like, this is where you'll shine.

703
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: If I have one percent of what Benny did right

704
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: and I get to do that, I will be happy,

705
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like he I would. I

706
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: would love that. But you know I'm in development. Development

707
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: takes forever, forever, forever. And let's see, we're going to.

708
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: Be a lot older.

709
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: When I know I'm going to be I'm gonna be

710
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: like I'm obsessed with my mom. This ninety year old us.

711
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: That's a show.

712
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a show. That's a show. Hey, Hey, everybody,

713
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: we're back we're back, believe it or not. We're dressed

714
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: in a cozy manner. Yes, I feel you look hot.

715
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: There it is. We have charls beautiful like scarves.

716
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: You look great. And it really is like a it's

717
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: a it's a snow.

718
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: It's nice right, kind of matches the blue. It's a

719
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: snow flake scar And I wore a sweater today which

720
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: I usually don't. It's great.

721
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: And a grinch hat you're wearing, yes, which is perfect

722
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: for me.

723
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Speaker 1: And we have a beautiful like a little table here

724
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Speaker 1: with with cocoa preparation. We're gonna make some hot chocolate

725
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: with some candy canes and we're going to continue with hotter.

726
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: Takes great.

727
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: All right, let's continue.

728
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: So you're ready, I'm gonna start throwing these. Do you

729
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: want any Yeah? Yeah? Dump some insurance fraud.

730
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: I'm not good with that kind of stuff. Okay, I'm

731
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: actually very bad with it, Kyle.

732
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: Where there's a deeper star, there's a deeper story here.

733
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: My car was towed recently, oh, because I didn't pay

734
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: my registration and then my insurance and blah blah blah.

735
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: Basically I couldn't get it out and it was a lot. Oh, No,

736
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: that's awful for days.

737
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: That's awful days days day.

738
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Speaker 2: And then I finally went back and then I realized

739
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: they didn't have a license because I lost it about

740
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: a year ago and one back and it was just

741
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 2: sitting in the impound lot and impound expensive.

742
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, each day the day.

743
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 2: But insurance fraud. I I'm sure, I'm sure I've done.

744
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: That that one. We should have crossed that one right off.

745
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: Baseball players, hot, boy, did you well? I did watch

746
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: the watches my Mariners fan, so I was. It was

747
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: the Game seven. It was a great thrilling It was

748
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: really a thrilling series. They ended up not not winning,

749
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: so anyway, bad Bunny love hot, Yeah.

750
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: He said, every single thing is hot. I'm like, insurance hot,

751
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: that's good.

752
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: What hot? Belting?

753
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: Belting? Yeah, Cyndia Rivo love it.

754
00:34:53,040 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: She she's extraordinary. That's just h Yeah. Yeah, yeah, unbelievable. Yeah, belting.

755
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could could you?

756
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 2: I can't.

757
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was wondering. It's got to be a thing, right,

758
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: is this something you develop? That's something we're talking about singing,

759
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 1: singing and being able to like really Broadway House.

760
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you could do this.

761
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I'd have to work

762
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: on it. Bob's Burgers both diner and haircut.

763
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: Bob's Diner. I've never been there, should I? Yes?

764
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: Is it good? Bob's Boy, oh big boy. Oh well

765
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: that's that's the whole nother matter. This was David Lynch's

766
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: favorite restaurant. Oh yeah, when he was Yeah, he would

767
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: visit Bob's every day.

768
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: I know what a bob is.

769
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

770
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 2: Cute, Yeah, so cute.

771
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: And finally, and we were talking about this earlier, Airwan

772
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: but no, it's not about Airwon anymore. You said it's

773
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: about grosser.

774
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 2: I think it's brilliant and I think that the Hailey

775
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: Beabers smoothie is one of the best things I've ever

776
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 2: tried in my life.

777
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: Ah really, no, tell me about this.

778
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: It's the best thing in the world.

779
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: What what What's what's what's what's the major strawberry and

780
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: like a strawberry.

781
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: My god, it's so I can't even explain. It's like

782
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: a cloud. It's like a cloud in your mouth. It's

783
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: the best thing I've ever had.

784
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: Well, that is it. Well, it's been really fun having

785
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: you on.

786
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: I love it. I see a lot of people on

787
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 2: the wall who I admire.

788
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah you, I feel so lucky, Thank you very much.

789
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: It's mutual. It's mutual. We're going to sign off now,

790
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: ladies and luman. We're going to finish our coco, maybe

791
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: start a fire. We'll see, get cozy. Thank you for

792
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: especially not on a stove, on a cook top. Did

793
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: we figure out what are We Even Doing? I don't

794
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: think we did, but we're still working on it, So

795
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: onto the next anyway, it's been a real pleasure own.

796
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, all right serious? What Are We Even

797
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Speaker 1: Doing is a production of iHeartMedia and the Elvis Duran

798
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: podcast Network, hosted by me Kyle McLachlin and created and

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00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: produced by Full Picture productionists Yay, featuring music by Yata

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00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: and artwork by Danica Robinson. For more information about the podcast,

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Speaker 1: please visit our Instagram and TikTok at w a awed

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