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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to the Hammer Territory podcast. This

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Speaker 1: is episode one eight four. My name is Brad Rowland.

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Speaker 1: I am one of the hosts of this podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am joined as I almost always am, by Scott Coleman.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even sure what to say. It's Sunday afternoon

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Speaker 1: and the Braves just one more than one game. In fact,

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Speaker 1: they want one to three games in a row. That's

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Speaker 1: called a sweep where I come from. How are you,

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Speaker 1: my friend?

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Speaker 2: Hey, Brad, I am great. Happy Easter to everybody out there.

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Speaker 2: And man, the Braves really really needed to sweep. Of course,

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Speaker 2: whenever you get into the hole that the Braves got

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Speaker 2: into to begin the year, you cannot wake up and

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Speaker 2: one night it's there and one night your sudden looking

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Speaker 2: up and you're in really good shape. But you have

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Speaker 2: to build and to win three straight this weekend was

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Speaker 2: great against a decent team in Minnesota, and you just

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Speaker 2: hope this is kind of the start of something for

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Speaker 2: this club and hopefully they can build off it and

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Speaker 2: keep it rolling.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Obviously it's been relatively bleak so far this season. We'll

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Speaker 1: try not to talk about that too much, but it's

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Speaker 1: important context for a more exciting show on this Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: We should say at the top of the show, also,

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Speaker 1: if you are new to the program, we are part

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Speaker 1: of the Foul Territory network of podcasts. We are Hammer

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Speaker 1: Territory covered in the Braves all year long, So please

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Speaker 1: go ahead and subscribe to this show anywhere you find

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Speaker 1: your podcasts, Apple, Spotify. We're also on YouTube, where we

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Speaker 1: don't always do this, might be rarely do this, but

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Speaker 1: we're actually live right now, so if you're watching live,

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Speaker 1: we are actually live on YouTube platform. So hello and

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Speaker 1: Fixer Spring is part of your Easter Sunday or maybe

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Speaker 1: your Easter Monday with us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the.

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Speaker 1: Bravest sweep the series. They're up to eight thirteen. Now,

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Speaker 1: that's not anything great, but they it looks sky It

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Speaker 1: looks a lot better than other records that could have

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Speaker 1: Right now, six and fifteen was the worst case scenario.

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Speaker 1: After the show on Friday, we should say we did

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Speaker 1: have a show. It didn't feature us, but it was

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Speaker 1: a great one on Friday, covered by Sean and Steven.

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Speaker 1: Then two more wins since then, and I alluded to it,

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Speaker 1: but they had not won back to back games all year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of hard to do this late

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Speaker 1: into the season. All the stats, I believe, one that

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Speaker 1: in a rows. It's like nineteen twenty two or something

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Speaker 1: like that. Some ridiculous numbers, but hey, they it was

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like there was one thing that stood out

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Speaker 1: wolfmen was good. Started, pitching was okay enough to not

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Speaker 2: It didn't seem Yeah, yeah, very well rounded. The bullpen

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Speaker 2: The offense looked very much like the offense that we

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Speaker 2: have come to love so much. A lot of power.

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Speaker 2: waited for for so long. After everything that's gone wrong,

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Speaker 2: That eighth inning rally was so much fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: About Verdugo later, but Verdugo had about as good of

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Speaker 3: And that's what the Braves are gonna need to do.

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Speaker 2: You can't get ten games above five hundred overnight. You

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Speaker 1: There absolutely is. You know, we'll get into it later.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Drake Baldwin, he has a second home run

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Speaker 1: to do us again about what happens soon with Drake

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Speaker 2: Drake Baldwin might be so good the Braves can't afford

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Speaker 3: Of course you can only play two of those guys.

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Speaker 2: Which is a little bit of a bummer, but Baldwin's

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Speaker 2: showing that, man, he is clearly ready. And he's twenty

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Speaker 2: The process behind that and that was really good. Two

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Speaker 1: concerning with that, but what he was able to wrip

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Speaker 1: it back up, and he said after not like a

437
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Speaker 1: injury concern, which is good about the velocity. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean this is not everything, especially this early, in

439
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Speaker 1: this small example size. I'm not gonna I think this

440
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Speaker 1: is gospel. But his FIP and his expip are in

441
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Speaker 1: the threes right now. You know, I'm inclined to buy

442
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Speaker 1: that a lot more than I am his era, which

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Speaker 1: is whatever it is.

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Speaker 3: Six.

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Speaker 1: Like, I don't think Chris Sale's pitching like a SIXTYRA

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Speaker 1: pitcher right now. He also has top like a guy

447
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Speaker 1: who has a two seth of the ra like last year.

448
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Speaker 1: There's some wiggle room in the mill there. Obviously he

449
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Speaker 1: wants to be closer to two than six. We all

450
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Speaker 1: want that as well, but I don't. I said this

451
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Speaker 1: last week. I think I'll stand by it for what

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Speaker 1: we one more outing. I'm not worried yet. I'm not

453
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Speaker 1: worried as far as like him falling apart there. There's

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Speaker 1: obviously more concern for a pair of his age. He's

455
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Speaker 1: not as old as Charlie Morton was, for example, but

456
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Speaker 1: Chris Sale is almost my age man, like, I'm more

457
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Speaker 1: than him, but not by that much, and that's not great.

458
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Speaker 1: Like I'm not a young man Scott, so there's a

459
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Speaker 1: little bit more concern for a player his age. But

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Speaker 1: I do think if you just look at the data

461
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Speaker 1: and even watching him, he does look super duper Cris

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Speaker 1: But like not to use example Tom, but if you

463
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Speaker 1: watch Bryce Elder and Chris Sale, it isn't the same,

464
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, I think Bryce Older

465
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Speaker 1: is earning his seventy ra whatever it is. I don't

466
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Speaker 1: think Chrisdale looks like that. I think Christale look like

467
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Speaker 1: a guy who's get unlucky on some balls that are

468
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Speaker 1: not being hit to places that they should be hit too.

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Speaker 1: And I think if you fast forward two months and

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Speaker 1: he's the ra is three point six, I will not

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Speaker 1: be surprised.

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Speaker 2: Even backing, yeah, nobody will be surprised. And you know

473
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Speaker 2: it's funny. On Saturday night, the very first batter of

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Speaker 2: the game, Byron Buxton chopped the ball about eighteen feet

475
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Speaker 2: from the home plate YEP, and he got on base

476
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Speaker 2: because Byron Buston can.

477
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Speaker 3: Fly, and he's yeah, and he scored.

478
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Speaker 2: And then the next batter rope the double down the

479
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Speaker 2: left field line on a ball that was not located

480
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Speaker 2: well from Sale. And that was very much the story

481
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Speaker 2: of Sale season so far. Some horrible luck Byron Buckston

482
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Speaker 2: couldn't roll that baseball out there better if he tried

483
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Speaker 2: lead off single and then four or five pitches later,

484
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Speaker 2: Sale misses on his pitch in the middle of his

485
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Speaker 2: own and it's one nothing twins, And that just kind

486
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Speaker 2: of was a microcosm of everything that Chris Sale has done.

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Speaker 2: I do agree wholeheartedly. I think he figures this out.

488
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Speaker 2: I think sales next start is going to come against

489
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Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks out West. Hopefully he can pitch well against

490
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Speaker 2: that good lineup, and some of the things that are

491
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Speaker 2: working against him, like the batting average on balls and

492
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Speaker 2: play luck, we'll start to balance out. Because it's I mean,

493
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Speaker 2: as we said off the top of this segment, just

494
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Speaker 2: so unlucky. And I think you just kind of have

495
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Speaker 2: to even if it's painful, and even if Chris needs

496
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Speaker 2: to work on some stuff, I think you just have

497
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Speaker 2: to tell yourself that better days are ahead.

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Speaker 1: The YouTube chat did not love that I compared him

499
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Speaker 1: to older guys. It was supposed to be at a

500
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Speaker 1: thought exercise. He's not rice older. He's a lot better

501
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Speaker 1: than that. I'm just saying it doesn't look to say

502
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Speaker 1: he looks like a real pitcher still. And one more

503
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Speaker 1: thing on Chris Sale, and we'll move on to promise

504
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Speaker 1: you through his start so far, thirty two strikeouts and seven.

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Speaker 3: Walks generally a good sign.

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Speaker 1: Not always perfect, but I tend to lean into that

507
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Speaker 1: a little bit, especially for guys who have a long

508
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Speaker 1: truck like Sale does. He's not walking, guys still missing bats.

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Speaker 1: That's a good underlying little area for me. One other

510
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Speaker 1: thing I want to talk about on Saturday is h

511
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Speaker 1: we live with the bullpen earlier. They allowed two earned

512
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Speaker 1: runs and twelve innings this weekend. That's a great, great sign.

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Speaker 1: One of the examples of that was Rafael Montero pulling

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Speaker 1: at Houdini Act on Saturday in a what was a

515
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Speaker 1: close fought win. That was a huge, huge moment in

516
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Speaker 1: the game. And of course he just arrived. It's a

517
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Speaker 1: weird way he got here. The Braves are paying a

518
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Speaker 1: small portion of his contract. He was a highly paid guy.

519
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Speaker 1: But in that moment, it's one game. But he's looked

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Speaker 1: pretty good overall, and that was a great, great, great

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Speaker 1: spot by him on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a little surprised when Montero went into

523
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Speaker 2: the game bases loaded, one out against the middle of

524
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Speaker 2: Minnesota's order, but he was perfect, and he dotted a

525
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Speaker 2: couple of fastballs right on the corner to Carlos Korea,

526
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Speaker 2: of course, a very talented hitter, longtime talented hitter, and

527
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Speaker 2: then expanded the zone perfectly and got the strike three

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Speaker 2: for the first out, and then I think it was in.

529
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Speaker 2: Vader was batting next, and Montero again peppered him with

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Speaker 2: some fastballs and then dropped that splitter, which is a

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Speaker 2: new pitch for him, and it was really impressive and

532
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Speaker 2: for a bullpen that really needs some stabilizing with the

533
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Speaker 2: inconsistencies that it's had this first month of the year,

534
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Speaker 2: Montero looks good and man, when they traded for him,

535
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Speaker 2: the numbers were not great. Clearly the front office had

536
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Speaker 2: seen something in some of the changes and the stuff

537
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Speaker 2: that he has, because Montero still has really good stuff

538
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Speaker 2: and that was a huge spot. He did give up

539
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Speaker 2: a run in the following inning on a sack fly,

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Speaker 2: but I think Montero has shown in a handful of

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Speaker 2: appearances that he can be counted on in this bullpen.

542
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Speaker 2: And if the Braves kind of plucked him off the

543
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Speaker 2: scrap he for a couple million dollars from Houston, then

544
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Speaker 2: all the better. You can never have enough relievers and

545
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Speaker 2: hopefully it lasts and if it does all year, then awesome.

546
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Speaker 2: And even if it only lasts for a couple of

547
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Speaker 2: months and then the wheels fall off, you can probably

548
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Speaker 2: move on. So it was a really big spot for

549
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Speaker 2: Montero and he deserves a big tip of the cap

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Speaker 2: for getting out of the jam.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely a big moment and it might be forgotten, but

552
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Speaker 1: it might not be if the Braves get hot now

553
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Speaker 1: and like you look back at these little things, they

554
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Speaker 1: can kind of turn the season around and you want

555
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Speaker 1: to overweight it either. But that was a big, big

556
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Speaker 1: escape then ended up being a win, which made it

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Speaker 1: even more magnified. We reference to Michael Harris earlier. But man,

558
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Speaker 1: the home run he hit on Saturday was absolutely destroyed. Yeah,

559
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Speaker 1: one hundred nine mile an hour, four hundred and forty

560
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Speaker 1: six feet by stat CAAs that's an absolutely mammoth home run.

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Speaker 3: And we said it. But he's bounced back.

562
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Speaker 1: He raises his ops to like eighty points this weekend, which,

563
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Speaker 1: by the way, it was in the it's still very low,

564
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Speaker 1: so he had been struggling. It makes it easier to

565
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Speaker 1: raise it. My bore, But I think our colleague Stephen

566
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Speaker 1: pointed out that home run only was the home run,

567
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Speaker 1: He also took two pitches before that and got up

568
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Speaker 1: two zero in the count and then annihilated a pitch

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Speaker 1: that he was that was actually in the zone. Small thing,

570
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Speaker 1: but Harris's approach is the biggest thing with him. The

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Speaker 1: Talent's always been there. That was a good moment, and

572
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Speaker 1: not only just because he hit the ball one thousand feet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great approach, And I thought all weekend Michael Harris

574
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Speaker 2: was really good. He had the big hit on Friday

575
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Speaker 2: night too, I think tie the game and then set

576
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Speaker 2: the stage for Drake Baldwin had the massive home run

577
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Speaker 2: at that. I mean, that's got to be what top three,

578
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Speaker 2: top five deepest home runs of Mike's career. He launched

579
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Speaker 2: that ball, and it's a ball he should launch two

580
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Speaker 2: to zero pitch yep down in the sweet spot for

581
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Speaker 2: a lefty and he launched. I think it hit the

582
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Speaker 2: very top of the chop house out there. Really encouraging

583
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Speaker 2: to see. And I mean, you want to talk about

584
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Speaker 2: players the Braves need. The Braves really need Michael Harris

585
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Speaker 2: to be Michael Harrison Capitol letters.

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Speaker 3: And it was just three games we.

587
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Speaker 2: Don't want to proclaim that the whole team is back

588
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Speaker 2: and the World Series is back on after three games.

589
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Speaker 2: Not doing that, but really good signs from some players

590
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Speaker 2: this weekend that the Braves needed to step.

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Speaker 1: Up one hundred percent. Okay, everyone's asking for it. We

592
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Speaker 1: did tease it earlier. We will come back and talk

593
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Speaker 1: all about kell Nick Acunya snicker, all of that stuff

594
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Speaker 1: in just one moment.

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Speaker 3: After working our partners.

596
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Speaker 5: It is time for people to get some new clubs,

597
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Speaker 5: and to do that they need to go to their

598
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Speaker 3: No doubt.

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Speaker 6: I was there today, I've been there before. Last time

601
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Speaker 6: I was there, they gave me this killer gap iage.

602
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Speaker 6: Look at that sweet spot, Scott, it is worn out.

603
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Speaker 6: That is right in the sweet spot right there. So

604
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Speaker 6: I went and got new clubs today, new irons. But

605
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Speaker 6: more importantly, I got this bad boy. I got me

606
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Speaker 6: a new putter. This is my old putter.

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Speaker 3: It's on order.

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Speaker 6: Yes, that's my putter cover PXG Mustang putter. Now I'm

609
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Speaker 6: going to the Allen putter. They talked me into it

610
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Speaker 6: because I was draining some putts today. Bob the guy

611
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Speaker 6: who helped me out. He helped me with my irons.

612
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Speaker 6: He got them teed up perfectly. But then we went

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Speaker 6: to the putting green. I was draining them putts because

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Speaker 6: that's the most important part of golf.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Scott, there was a situation on Saturday that was

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Speaker 1: already in our notes. To be fair like it was

624
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Speaker 1: a local issue. I would say on Saturday, people noticed it,

625
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Speaker 1: people talked about it, and it got out of control

626
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Speaker 1: on Sunday, and we'll kind of talk.

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Speaker 3: About it now.

628
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Speaker 1: So if you miss this somehow and we're listening or

629
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Speaker 1: watching us, Jared Kelnick thought he how it. I think

630
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Speaker 1: on Saturday, hit the ball a long way, hit the wall,

631
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Speaker 1: and he didn't bust out of the box because I

632
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: think he thought everyone thought probably it was probably gone,

633
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Speaker 1: and he started running fast pretty quickly, but not immediately right,

634
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Speaker 1: and he was thrown out a second base because it

635
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Speaker 1: probably should have been an easy double and it wasn't,

636
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Speaker 1: and it turned not even in just a single, it

637
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Speaker 1: turned into out, which was big. The game was tied

638
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Speaker 1: at that point in time. It should have been second

639
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Speaker 1: and third, no outs. They won the game, so it

640
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: didn't get quite the juice that it might have gotten

641
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Speaker 1: that they had lost. But it was a thing that

642
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Speaker 1: we've seen before, as we'll talk about in a second,

643
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Speaker 1: but it was a talking point.

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Speaker 3: But in the.

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Speaker 1: Moment brought this up, Ronald Acuniy was benched for a

646
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Speaker 1: very very very similar thing in twenty nineteen. I would

647
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Speaker 1: say people didn't always bring this up, but I'll add this,

648
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Speaker 1: and this came up a couple times as well. Less so,

649
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Speaker 1: Marcelo Zuna was benched for essentially the exact same thing

650
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. So it wasn't just Ronnie. I

651
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Speaker 1: want to make that very clear. This is not only

652
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: a Ronald Acutney thing. Marcelo Zuna was a star level player,

653
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: established guy. It's an older player, not even a young

654
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: guy like Ronald was older player, same thing benched. Now

655
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: it was probably gonna go away, and then didn't go

656
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: away because Ronald Acunya and a now deleted tweet. But

657
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: we've all seen it. It made the rounds. Mark Bowman

658
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: tweeted about it, and Ronnie replied to Mark, which is

659
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: even funnier in some respects, and he said, quote if

660
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: it were me, they would take.

661
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 3: Me out of the game. End quote.

662
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: Before we move on, Scott, a little bit of news

663
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: that happened while we were talking that I just saw

664
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: on Twitter. So this is secondhand. I've not seen snit.

665
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: I'll see this multiple times from reporters, so I trust.

666
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust Dob and Bowman on this that he

667
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: said this apparently today Sunday. Snicker was actually asked about

668
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 1: this yesterday and he kind of downplayed I didn't understand

669
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: it or whatever, just downplayed it right. Apparently he didn't know.

670
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: He told the media today on Sunday that he didn't know.

671
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: Kelnick essentially pimped his single off the wall, and his

672
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: thoughts might have been different had he known yesterday. I'm

673
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: mad in that bit of coloring, because that's going to

674
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: change the conversation a little bit. What do you think

675
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: of all of this? Because people are mad at Snit.

676
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: People are mad at Ronnie for airing the dirty laundry?

677
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: All kinds of thoughts and opinions here. Given all that context, Scott,

678
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: where do you come down on this thing as of

679
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon evening?

680
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: All right, let's break this into chunks, because there I

681
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: could probably talk for nine minutes straight.

682
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

683
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: Number one, whether you are Jared Keellmick, or you are

684
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: Rondra Kunya Junior, or you are Marcelo Zuna, or you

685
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: are Shoheo Tani, or you are a twenty eight year

686
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: old utility man playing their second game in the league,

687
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: you need to run hard out.

688
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: Of the box.

689
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: Who used to say they pay you to run hard

690
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: four times a game? Run unless you just you better

691
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: be one thousand percent sure. Michael Harris was one thousand

692
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: percent sure when he hit that ball to the chop

693
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: house on Saturday.

694
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 3: But that ball was not a no doubt.

695
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: And if you're Kelnick, he got thrown out. It's a

696
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: bad look. If the Braves would have lost, it would

697
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: have been an even worse look, which is part of this.

698
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: But I think the first thing we need to say

699
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: is just run, man, Unless you hit that ball.

700
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: Four hundred and fifty feet.

701
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: You have to hustle, and let's now I'll throw it

702
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: back to you on Akunya. The fact that this is

703
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: still kind of in Ronald's mind five years later, I

704
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: don't love that. Hopefully these guys can have a heart

705
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: to heart sometime soon and just kind of bury the hatchet.

706
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: But when he tweeted it, my eyes probably jumped out

707
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: of my head because it was like, oh, no, we

708
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: don't need this. We definitely do not need star players

709
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: signed for five more years, still apparently not happy with

710
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: things that happened five years ago.

711
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, we all have that thought. It's interesting.

712
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: I'll be regulatory about my own thoughts here. I think

713
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: Ronald is right about this to some degree. I think

714
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: Ronnie is right that he got benched for something, and again,

715
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: Marcel also got beutched for something that Jared Kellnic did

716
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: not get benched for.

717
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 3: And that is weird.

718
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: It's a little bit strange, and I actually want to

719
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: attribute something to our colleague. Grant McCauley's been a guest

720
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: on the show before, does a great job on his

721
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: own podcast, Night Too. Not all these things, Grant said,

722
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: basically with regard to consequences for specific actions in a

723
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: clubhouse or on a team. He put it this way.

724
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: Quote that message should should read the same for every player,

725
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: every time.

726
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: End quote.

727
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: And then that's a perfectly fair for me if you're Ronnie.

728
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: And yeah, there's something to be said for it's a

729
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: long time ago.

730
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: I get it.

731
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: And also he's not with the team right now, he's

732
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: obviously still rehabbing. That adds some fuel with the fowre

733
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: here he's not he's not face to face with sin it.

734
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I could see it running me the wrong

735
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: way if I know I did something. It became a

736
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: national by the way, that became a national story when

737
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: it happened to Ronnie, because Ronnie was a big name player,

738
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: star player. That was a national talking point. For a

739
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: couple of days. The takes were flying about Ronnie. I

740
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: mean they always they always seem to fly about Ronnie.

741
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: But that's I'm sure that probably contributed to some of this.

742
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: And I could see being bothered if I'm mccunya at

743
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: the theme at the apparent inconsistency is what I'll say,

744
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: Because you're a Colling's not some old guy.

745
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: He's young.

746
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: He's this is a young player. This is not like

747
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: this is not a who's an old guy. This is

748
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: not Marcel is in a now or Matt Olsen or

749
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: like some guy who's some thirty year old established player

750
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: like I see people talking about Kellick being more of

751
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: a veteran guys. Kellic's like a twenty five year old,

752
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: Like he's not established like an anyway. So there's that part.

753
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: Then there is the should you a tweeted that Ronnie?

754
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: I tend to think no, even if I'm kind of

755
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: on team Ronnie on this one to some degree. I

756
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: would also add that I don't think I would have

757
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: tweeted this if I was him. No, And look he

758
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: deleted it. You never know why that is, Like, did

759
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: someone this this is agent call? Does somebody called by, Hey, Ronni,

760
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: are you sure about this one? Don't know, we have

761
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: no idea, So I think everybody's got a little bit

762
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: of something there. I don't I don't love that he

763
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: tweeted it out. I don't think he's right about this,

764
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: and I it's really weird to me that Snicker just

765
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: apparently didn't know. And also, you know they didn't bench

766
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: Kelnick yesterday and during the game, and the way they

767
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: did to Ronnie and to Azuna, he also started today. Yeah,

768
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: which that's the weird thing to me, is like, I

769
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: guess again, I'm reading this, not watching us. We're doing

770
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: a podcast. But Snith apparently said it might have been

771
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: different if he had learned it, but he knew it

772
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: before the game today and Kelnick started still, so there

773
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: was still an opportunity if you want to send a

774
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: message to Kelvinick to say, hey, you're not starting today, man,

775
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: And they didn't do that. So I don't love this.

776
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: And I also don't think that it's Snicker's lost control.

777
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean there's other side of this where fans are

778
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: who already don't like Snip very much or like fire

779
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: the guy to now it's all over or whatever, he's

780
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: lost the team. I don't think that's the case either.

781
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 1: But it's just this is a weird situation. It's nuanced,

782
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: and what I will add and I'll throw back to you,

783
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 1: we'll never know all of it. And that's something I've learned,

784
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: even more covering basketball the way that I do and

785
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: being around the team more than I'm around the Braves physically.

786
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: In person, people always think that we know everything and

787
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: we can't ever know everything, ever about anything much about

788
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: this clubhouse stuff. Is this very interesting situation in general,

789
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: This got public to a degree that a lot of

790
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: things do not. But I guarantee you there's conversations and

791
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: dynamics in play that we cannot understand, and that's not

792
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: good for hot takes, it's not good for social clips.

793
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: I get all that, but I always keep my guard

794
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: up to say, there's stuff we don't know and stuff

795
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: we can't know, and that's kind of where you have

796
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: to defer a little bit to the guys who were

797
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: actually there.

798
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: My sincere hope is that this is in the news

799
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: cycle for twenty four hours, they'll probably talk about it

800
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: on Monday morning because it made the right It was

801
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: a superstar level player when healthy going to Twitter to

802
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: effectively complain about the way.

803
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: A manager handled him. Yep.

804
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: Now it was twenty nineteen, and there is this long

805
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: history with the Cunya and I think being unfairly blamed

806
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: for things. There was that ordeal in the Philadelphia outfield

807
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,479
Speaker 2: in the playoffs a few years ago. Remember the ball

808
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: bounced in left center field and then ricocheted towards right,

809
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: and everybody went at Ronald because he wasn't on like

810
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 2: a dead sprint to a ball that landed two hundred

811
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 2: feet away from him. There there's just kind of been

812
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: this thing with Ronald, and I've generally thought it's not fair.

813
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: Even if getting back to the point, you need to

814
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: run the ball out. Yeah, you pulled that when you're

815
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 2: four years old, and you should do it, whether you

816
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: make a billion dollars a year or you are on

817
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: your first day in the major leagues, even the minor leagues,

818
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: whatever level. I really do hope though, that this is

819
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: a twenty four hour cycle, Ronald and Snitt have a

820
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: chance to talk and just kind of bury this. You

821
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: don't want to let it fester. Maybe they already have talked,

822
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: or maybe they're going to talk today. It was just

823
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: reported that Jared Kelnick went into Snit's office today and

824
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: apologized for not running it out. So hopefully that is

825
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: buried as well. Not that Kelnick is some key core

826
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: piece of this team, but again, you want him to

827
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: be a professional and to apologize and own it. I

828
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 2: hope this is not something we continue to talk about.

829
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 2: Let's hope this is the one and only time we

830
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: talk about it on the podcast. Yeah, it made for

831
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: an interesting Sunday morning and interesting Easter Sunday morning. When

832
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: that tweet went out, it was like, oh no, we

833
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: don't need this.

834
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to your point, I hardly agree. I hope

835
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: we never talked about this again. Honestly, number two, we

836
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: were gonna talk about it no matter what it was

837
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: on our notes, even before Ronnie tweeted about it. But

838
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: it would have been two minutes instead of twenty, you

839
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it was notable to a

840
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: lot of people that watch this team closely. I have

841
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: long thought, and many have thought, it's not just us

842
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: that Ronnie's gotten a bit of a raw deal on

843
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: some perception stuff along the way, where other guys can

844
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: get away with things that he's somehow, for some reason can't.

845
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: I don't love that.

846
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: And part of the reason I brought up Marcel is

847
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: that it wasn't just Ronnie two, but yeah, a weird

848
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: situation hopefully. And look, this is crass and I don't

849
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: mean it that way. It helps the day one, yesterday

850
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: and today.

851
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

852
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: Like, as funny as that is, a lot of things

853
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: happen in sports such as baseball, where like the vibes

854
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: go way down when you lose in general, and the

855
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: bands are still eight and thirteen, Like it's not such

856
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: on of rainbows. But if you lose yesterday or you

857
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: lose today or both, maybe it's felt a little differently.

858
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: Maybe guys are in a worse mood and things fester

859
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more or whatever. Wins equal vibes a

860
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: lot of the time in professional sports, and winning a

861
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 1: couple of games here might help to, as you said,

862
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: kind of bury this one and have it not be

863
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: a big thing moving forward. Anything else to add on

864
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: this and then we can. If not, we'll talk about

865
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: ox perdugo. But anything else you want to add on

866
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: the topic, d jor today.

867
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Speaker 3: Just might as sweet. Hey the brace what's the twins

868
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Speaker 3: this weekend? We love with that.

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Speaker 1: A lot of shows listen, a lot of shows would

870
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Speaker 1: and probably are going to lead with the Acunya Kelnick thing.

871
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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 1: We did not want to do that because I want

873
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Speaker 1: to talk about baseball on the field and they swept

874
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Speaker 1: the series. That's much more important to me than a

875
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Speaker 1: tweet from Ronald or reaction from snit.

876
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Speaker 3: But it's still on top of we have to talk

877
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Speaker 3: about Yeah, had to talk about it. Let's hope this

878
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Speaker 3: is kind of it. It's out there.

879
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Speaker 2: Bury the hatchet move on, run hard out of the

880
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Speaker 2: batter's box, and let's talk about I mean, let's talk

881
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: about it really. I mean, we talked about a good

882
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: weekend for the Braves. Let's talk about maybe the most

883
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: encouraging part of the entire weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this segment, we should say, it's brought you folks

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Speaker 1: at Fatal Sports Network. We're can have stream Braves games

886
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: and we'll tell you much more about that shortly. But

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Speaker 1: our spotlight player for Final Sports Network today is Alex Rdugo,

888
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: the afore mentioned He just got called up to begin

889
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: the weekend. Not a young player, but a player they

890
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: just acquired before the season. And we won't go back

891
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: to that, but it was like, WHOA, that was kind

892
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: of interesting signing at the very last part of spring training.

893
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: A guy who's a major league starting caliber player who

894
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: was just available for very cheap. All these things, but

895
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: three games. The biggest one was on Saturday. We had

896
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Speaker 1: a monster game on Saturday.

897
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Speaker 3: Four hits, two.

898
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Speaker 1: Doubles, the go ahead, the go ahead hit. Look, he's

899
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Speaker 1: not been in I mean he's five of fourteen with

900
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: two doubles and three games. That's really good, right, But

901
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: the reason why we're spotlighting Oxford Dugo. Even more than

902
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: that is that as you and I talked last time,

903
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: one time we did a podcast was a few days ago,

904
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: and one of our lead segments is about how just

905
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: how bad the outfield had been, and especially the corner guys,

906
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: because Michael Harris had been bad but he's still a

907
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: talented player. The corner outfield has been a disaster so

908
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: far this season, and Alex Ordugo looks like a rainbow

909
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: or unicorns whatever whatever you want to say, is your

910
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: perfect imagery is like, oh, riding down on the white

911
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: horse to save the corner outfield is Oxford Dugo. And

912
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Speaker 1: we're overstating that a little bit because I do want

913
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: to say he's not a superstar player, but man, he's

914
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: helpful and it helped right away.

915
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, immediate impact from Ridugo, and that's what we were

916
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Speaker 2: hoping for. And whether it lasts for a couple of

917
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Speaker 2: weeks or a couple of months or the entire year,

918
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Speaker 2: the Braves really need somebody to step up, especially in

919
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Speaker 2: left field until Acuna comes back. And Verdugo had as

920
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: good of an opening weekend as you can have, and

921
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: he's been I mean, look, man, you can't fake it

922
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: for seven years in the major leagues and be a

923
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: total nobody. I mean, clearly this guy has some talent. Now,

924
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: did he ever emerge as the star level player that

925
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: maybe people were thinking he was going to when he

926
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Speaker 2: was traded for Mookie Betts. No, the last couple of

927
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: years with Boston and New York were very average ish,

928
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 2: maybe a little sub average. But the bar to be

929
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Speaker 2: a starting outfielder, a starting corner outfielder for the Braves

930
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: right now is really low, and Verdugo does some things

931
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: that this lineup could really use. He's generally a pretty

932
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: patient hitter. He doesn't strike out a ton, He puts

933
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: the ball in play, and he can drive the ball.

934
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Speaker 2: He's maybe not like a thirty home run a year guy,

935
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Speaker 2: but he can hit double digit homers if given a

936
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Speaker 2: good chunk of bats. He has some speed, which is

937
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: valuable for this lineup too, to help kind of move

938
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Speaker 2: around on the base paths and put some pressure on

939
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Speaker 2: the defense. And to me, I mean, if you want

940
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: to talk about a player who has an opportunity right

941
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: there for the taking, it's Rdugo. And you talk about

942
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: another again, a player who was a starter on a

943
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: World Series team last year in New York, and then

944
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: he found himself unemployed until two weeks into the spring.

945
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Speaker 2: It's kind of make or break time for his major

946
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: league career, just in the way it was for guys

947
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: like Eddie Rosario and jorgees Solier when they came to

948
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: the Braves. And I'm not saying that Radugo is going

949
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Speaker 2: to be a World Series hero seven months from now,

950
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 2: but he clearly has something to play for right now.

951
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 2: And if he can give the Braves a spark in

952
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: the leadoff spot too, where they just don't have anybody

953
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: to lead off, it would be so so helpful until

954
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: they get Acuona back.

955
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: You gave the caveat, but it's a great comparison to

956
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: Eddie Rosario and that, yeah, you would bet on him

957
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: not being Eddie Rosario. That Eddie Rosario about October he

958
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: was out of his mind, but a similar level of pedigree,

959
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: a similar level of player, like a established major leaguer,

960
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: but not a star at all. And Verdugo was, like,

961
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: like you said, almost on the track to be a

962
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: star ish level guy back in twenty, like twenty twenty

963
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: in Boston he was kind of breaking out, but he

964
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: probably isn't gonna be that now. But he is an

965
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: established major league cornothuver. Like, this is a guy with

966
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: a career coming into today, a career ops of seven

967
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: forty three. That's not special, but you know what it

968
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: is acceptable. You can live with that. In a core

969
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: affold spot. He can he can catch the ball out there.

970
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: He's a decent defender. Someone mentioned this in a YouTube

971
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: college Actually it was in my nose as well. He

972
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: didn't have a four hit game all of last season,

973
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: and he had four hits in the second game with

974
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: the Braves. That's that's kind of fun. He had a

975
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: bunch of three hit games. So it wasn't like he

976
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: was terrible terrible, but he wasn't good last year. He

977
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: had a bad year.

978
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: That's why it was.

979
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: That's why he was available for a bargain basement price.

980
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean he's already I don't you want

981
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: to say after three days. But if he just does

982
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: a little bit, he's more than returning value on the

983
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: very minimal investment. And yeah, maybe you get to win

984
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: profar come back and you have some decisions to make.

985
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: Not the worst thing in the world. Owed a bunch

986
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: of money, so he's not gonna just not play, I

987
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: don't think. But if for Dugo is your fourth outfielder

988
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: when Profer comes back, that's bad.

989
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: News for Jered Kelnick. But it's good news for the Braves.

990
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: I think, probably because look, Alex Riduego is better than

991
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: Jared Kelnick. There's no there's no evidence of the contrary.

992
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: Like if you compare their careers to date, it's not close.

993
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: Ridugo is a much more established player than Jared Kelnick.

994
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean it's impossible for kell It to be

995
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: better from this point forward. But if you ask me

996
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: right now who i'd rather rather having a box, it's

997
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: Alex Rduego, and I don't think I have to think

998
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: about it for more than a second. So not the

999
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: highest part of clear, but a helpful player for this team.

1000
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 2: I joked about it on Saturday night, but after Verdugo

1001
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: got his second hit, I tweeted congratulations to Alex Radugo,

1002
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: who now leads all Braves outfielders with two hits.

1003
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean not entirely wrong. I mean I

1004
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: probably was wrong at that moment, but it was not

1005
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: by a lot.

1006
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: Obviously, it's a joke, but look, man, I mean, I

1007
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: can't watch more Stewart Fairchild, I can't watch more Brian

1008
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 2: de la Cruz, so they mercifully sent down a Gwinett.

1009
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: Kelnick is very limited as a baseball player, even if

1010
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: he once upon a time was a top prospect. Yes,

1011
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 2: there are many ways for Dugo to impact this team

1012
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: at the top of the lineup, get on base, plays

1013
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: a pretty good defensive outfield. He didn't get a ton

1014
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: of opportunities this weekend, but historically he's graded out fine

1015
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: in the outfield.

1016
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: And again, man, you're not looking for an MVP here.

1017
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: I mean, if he wants to give the Braves anything

1018
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: even remotely close to that, it would be huge. But

1019
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: just somebody to stabilize the corners, because even after a

1020
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: good weekend, the Braves on the whole, in the outfield

1021
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: statistically is near the bottom of the barrel. And if

1022
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 2: they can get Verdugo to give him some on base

1023
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: at the top of the order, and then if Michael

1024
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: Harris can keep hitting for power as he did, and

1025
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: then hopefully in two, three, four weeks you get a

1026
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: COONa back in that lineup, there's a way to really

1027
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 2: bridge the gap.

1028
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 3: After some really dark.

1029
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: Times these first couple of weeks where they were getting

1030
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: literally nothing out of their outfield.

1031
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and he may not be a savior.

1032
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: Alfredugo has been a basically an entirely league average kind

1033
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: of player for the last three or four seasons. But hey,

1034
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: league average is a lot better than what they have

1035
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: in the corner off field before this. And also, they're

1036
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: gonna need a corner affilter in the playoffs and they

1037
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: make there. That's that's an if at this point in time.

1038
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: But as a reminder, Profar can't play in the playoffs,

1039
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: so that's going to be a spot to circle. And

1040
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: I bet you right now if you gave the front

1041
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: office a bunch of truth here, that they are very

1042
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 1: very happy with having Alex Ordugo signed.

1043
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're super cheap and having their.

1044
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: Body again, not because it's gonna change their lives, but

1045
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: because he's just their best option.

1046
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: I have to think that the front office was tipped

1047
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: off about Profar potentially being suspended.

1048
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 3: Usually there certainly know that.

1049
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, there's an appeal process when a player gets popped,

1050
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: so I think he gets tested again, and I don't

1051
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: know the exact specifics, but usually it's a couple of

1052
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: weeks before you get clarity on it. And I mean

1053
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 2: when they signed for Dougo, we did a podcast that

1054
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: night it was like, do they do they need a

1055
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: fifth out?

1056
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 3: Feel there? Well?

1057
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: And also I want to add to this on the

1058
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: player side too, a lot of the questions were like,

1059
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: why is Verdugo.

1060
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 3: Signing with the Braves? Yeah, like because he.

1061
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: Didn't think give If the Braces ha given a bunch

1062
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: of money, it would have made sense, but they didn't.

1063
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: It's it's a peanuts kind of deal. And it was

1064
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: like on both sides, like why are the Braves to

1065
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: doing so? Why is pro Why is Viverdigo doing this?

1066
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: This is really his only offer he had maybe it

1067
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: was his only offer, But if you're Verdugo now and

1068
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: if you knew or he's kind of knew, you were

1069
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: going to be a starter probably for half a season,

1070
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: there's more. INSTEADI to sign that contract to be a

1071
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: shown me kind of contract on a well presumably good

1072
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: team was supposed to be a good team coming into

1073
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: the season. So both sides like, yeah, I think we

1074
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: almost have to know now that they probably knew this

1075
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: was coming when they signed Dugo. But in that extent

1076
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: of the player side to you. We always forget about player side.

1077
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: The player has a choice too, and I would imagine if,

1078
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: even if it's just a tie breaker, a chance to

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Speaker 1: play a lot, and I'm sure the brains are like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna play man like, and once you're terrible, you're

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00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 1: gonna play because we have a spot for.

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Speaker 2: You well, and it's funny, and then we'll wrap up here.

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00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 2: A year ago, Jerkson Profar signed a one million dollar

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00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: deal with the Padres because his career was on life

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00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: support and he had a career year, and he got

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00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: forty two million dollars from the Braves. And Verdugo and

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00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: Profar are not identical players by any means, but it's

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Speaker 2: kind of a similar situation.

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Speaker 3: Where Dugo was looking for work. He took I think

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Speaker 3: a million dollars or two million dollar deal from.

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Speaker 2: The Braves, and if he has a good six month

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00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: season here, even if it's not in an every single

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00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: day capacity, he's going to be able to get a

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00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: real contract this upcoming offseason, a million dollars one year

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00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 2: deal for five million, eight million something like that two

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Speaker 2: years fifteen. There are so many incentives for Verdugo to

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Speaker 2: have a good year at this point in his career,

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00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 2: and who knows, maybe the Braves after striking goal last

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00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: year with Ramon Loreano with Mirrifield was good for them.

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00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: Gio Orchello was good for them. Hopefully Verdugo is the

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00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 2: next guy who can step up and kind of reward

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Speaker 2: the team for taking a chance on him when clearly

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00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: most of the league was not super in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Alex has been good with these guys who are

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00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: not necessarily pure cast offs, but guys who are available

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Speaker 1: for cheap dating back to twenty twenty one with Rosario.

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Speaker 1: But you just named the guys from last year. I've

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00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 1: done a good job patching those holes with cheap editions.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to live on that if you don't

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00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: have to. But they hit on a lot of those,

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00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: and hopefully Ford Togo is the latest for one year.

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Speaker 1: And I just looked at up one point five million

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00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: this year for a starting caliber corner outfielder is a

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00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: pretty good, pretty a price if you can pay it.

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Speaker 1: All right, Scott, We'll have more about the next series

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Speaker 1: up for the Braves, because, by the way, they can't

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Speaker 1: just stop playing now. For Forondes that A really have

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Speaker 3: Okay, Scott, we'll be.

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Speaker 1: Breezy here, we'll get out of here under an hour,

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Speaker 1: I promise everybody right now under an hour. Challenge accepted.

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00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: The Braves play the Cardinals beginning on Monday. The Cardinals

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00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: are not the best I would say they are. They have,

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00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: at least till recently, been a little bit better than

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00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: they were last year where they had their first disaster

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00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: season in a long time. But they got dog locked

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00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: by the Mets this weekend. They lost fourner road to

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Speaker 1: the Mets this weekend. So is that good or bad?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to see a struggling team kind of,

1139
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,959
Speaker 1: but do you want to see people swept in four games?

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Speaker 3: Maybe not.

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00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel about the series overall.

1142
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: Then we'll dive into the pitching matchups.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals are a team that you really should have a

1144
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: chance to win the series against at home, and let's

1145
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: hope the Braves don't go out there and lay a

1146
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: total dud in Game one or two or else. All

1147
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: those old wounds are going to just come right back

1148
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: to the surface and here we go again. But the

1149
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: Braves should be able to take advantage of a Cardinal

1150
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 2: team that's really struggling. I was kind of shocked that

1151
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 2: Saint Louis didn't start it's rebuild this winter. They have

1152
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 2: pieces that could fetch them a lot in terms of prospects.

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00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: And I know it's a proud organization in franchise, I

1154
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: know it's a proud fan base, but Saint Louis, I mean,

1155
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 2: the team just stinks.

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00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: They've been on.

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00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: The wrong path for a few years now, and hopefully

1158
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: the Braves can take advantage and just keep that losing

1159
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: streak going, especially after the Cardinals couldn't do us any

1160
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: favors and win a game or two up in New York.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's you know, the vibes should be

1162
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: decent at Truest after a sweep interesting pitching matchups as well.

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00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: The Braves just swept this series. If you want to

1164
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 1: be an optimist, even more so, without Schwellenbach or Schreider

1165
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: pitching series usually a good sign those guys are now

1166
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: going to go in this series, Schwelly is supposed to

1167
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: start on Monday, Stryder on Tuesday. The probable for Wednesday

1168
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: is Bryce Elder. I don't know if it's going to

1169
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: be Bryce Elder, but it might be. He is listened

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00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: as the probable right now, Scott. So usually would they

1171
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: list a guy they didn't go TVD. They went with Elder,

1172
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: and that means he probably will pitch. That's an afternoon game,

1173
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: so if you are someone who can't watch price Oller

1174
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: pitch anymore, you won't have to. Maybe it'll be at

1175
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: work on Wednesday. We'll keep an eye on it. For

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals it's Eric Fetti Andre Polonte I believe is

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00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 1: his name, and then Miles Michaelis on Wednesday. So nothing

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00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: disastrous in the matchups. Obviously, Elder versus Michaelis is not

1179
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: an advantage for the Braves, but Michael's is some great pitcher.

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00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 1: He's fine, and the first two are advantage Braves pitching

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00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: matchup wise. So in theory, a pretty good setup to

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00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: at least hold Serven win a series at home.

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00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, even though the Braves lost both of the Spencer

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00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: starts in Toronto last week, all eyes are going to

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00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 2: be on those guys, and I think it was just

1186
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 2: going to be a blip on the radar for Schwallenbach,

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00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: just a weird night, didn't have his command against the

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Speaker 2: Blue Jays. I think you have to feel good every

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Speaker 2: time Spencer goes out there. And then for Strider, I

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00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: mean especially, all eyes will be on Strider in his

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00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 2: second start look good. Maybe not Capitol letter Spencer Strider

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00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: in his first start of the year, but that was

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00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 2: probably to be expected against a Cardinals lineup that is

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Speaker 2: not anything special or fancy Saint Louis. They're a decent lineup,

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00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 2: they're decent pitching staff, but they just don't have the

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Speaker 2: high end talent that can really carry you over a

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Speaker 2: six month season.

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Speaker 3: But all eyes on.

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Speaker 2: The Spencers and then a noon game Elder against Michaelis

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00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: has been awful this year. We know, I mean Bryce Elder,

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00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: it's thrown him to the wolves. I don't know how

1202
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 2: much longer this experiment goes on. Maybe the Braves make

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00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: a change. They do have Elder and Smith Shaffer lined

1204
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 2: up on the same day right now. They do have

1205
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 2: a day off on Thursday, so maybe they just want

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00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 2: Elder to go out there and then they'll reevaluate on

1207
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: the road trip after it. But hey, if the Braves

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Speaker 2: can win two out of three, it would keep the

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00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: vibes going, and then they have another early season West

1210
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: Coast trip and hopefully that goes okay. Can't go much

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00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 2: worse than the first West Coast trip this year.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's a Nourse statement, Scott, to be sure. I

1213
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna invoke it if you didn't, but you did

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Speaker 1: it for me, so we won't. We won't do that,

1215
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that later on this week hopefully.

1216
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: But look, you can't expect to sweep every series, but

1217
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: winning every stacking series wins. I know that's kind of

1218
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: an old school bracism Bobby Snit everybody, but it's also

1219
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: just true. If you go in win every series, you're

1220
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: gonna be just fine. Two out of every three games,

1221
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: three of every four games. That's what you want to do.

1222
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: And get two out of three of this week, keep

1223
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: it rolling. If they get to out of three, they'll

1224
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: be ten to fourteen and it'll be just not rainbows.

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Speaker 3: But it will be fine.

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Speaker 1: And I mentioned this before we start recording today. The

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00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: Brains not have a very normal looking run differential. Now

1228
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean anything. I mean it means something. It

1229
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: means that you're not getting killed in games. But one

1230
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: more good week and it could be back to like

1231
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: level there. They have a better run differential than the

1232
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: thirteen and eight Rangers right now. Not too much solace

1233
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: to take in that, but a team that I still

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00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: believe when we said this last week, I'll say it

1235
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: again now is better than its record. We'll see how

1236
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: much better they are than their record, but they're better

1237
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: than their record. I feel good about that. And with

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00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: Spencer and Spencer on the Mounta, the next two is

1239
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: we can take some solace in the big arms coming

1240
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: to the dish for the braves. All right, Scott? Anything

1241
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: else to add and if not, we might have some

1242
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Speaker 1: new wistters today relive on YouTube? Where can folks follow

1243
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Speaker 1: the Scott Coleman experience on social media. Yeah, just a

1244
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 1: great weekend for the Braves.

1245
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: They needed to sweep in the absolute worst way, especially

1246
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: with that bad taste in their mouths after that trip

1247
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: to Toronto. It seemed like that series was going to

1248
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: go really well on Monday night and then just two

1249
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 2: total duds. So the Braves they get three wins against

1250
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 2: a Twins team that's really going through it right now.

1251
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 2: Hopefully they can keep winning series. Like you said, Cardinals

1252
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 2: are beatable, Diamondbacks are good, but then they go play

1253
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 2: the Rockies. They have a series against the Reds coming up,

1254
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: a series against the Pirates, the Nationals teams they can

1255
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 2: beat and should be. If they're going to get out

1256
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 2: of this early hole. The Braves have to take advantage

1257
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 2: against the lesser teams, and hopefully this weekend is just

1258
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 2: kind of a leaping off point to doing that consistently

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Speaker 2: these few weeks and months. I'm Scott Coleman. I am

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Speaker 2: at Scott Coleman fifty five on Twitter. Much better vibes

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Speaker 2: this weekend, Brad, much much better es bro.

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Speaker 3: It was fun.

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00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 2: The wins are really fun. The losses sometimes they get

1264
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: to a dark place. God help us if they lose

1265
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 2: on Monday, it'll be right back to it. But a

1266
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 2: great weekend for the Braves and hopefully everybody. If we

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Speaker 2: have new listeners, welcome aboard, and for our returning listeners,

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Speaker 2: thank you as always.

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you very much for listening.

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Speaker 1: But hey, we're probably more Braves per capita over the

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Speaker 1: here as always, for the listeners, Thank you for being here,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see you much more.

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Speaker 3: We don't have to pick. I promise you see you

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Speaker 3: all next time.