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Speaker 3: Hello, Emily and Badi here bringing you Episode one fifty

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Speaker 2: My name is Emily. I've lived in New York for

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Speaker 3: I'm about to make the hop from Manhattan to Brooklyn

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Speaker 3: Hence what you're getting a lot of here over unhurdle,

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Speaker 3: I am sitting down with Renee Orlo. She's an esthetician,

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Speaker 3: challenges of starting your own skincare line, because I'm sure

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Speaker 3: there were many.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I started my company in Dallas, as I said,

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Speaker 1: but I started in nineteen ninety six. I actually started

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Speaker 1: with having a skincare spa where we did services. So

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Speaker 1: that's how I started, and then I started developing the

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Speaker 1: skincare line you know, after that, and then ended up

444
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Speaker 1: opening up second location in Dallas. Started e commerce in

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Speaker 1: ninety nine because now my skincare line was pretty you know,

446
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Speaker 1: we had enough products and things like that. And now

447
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Speaker 1: fast forward almost twenty five years, we no longer have

448
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Speaker 1: the services side of the business and we are strictly

449
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent e commerce direct consumer from our website.

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Speaker 4: So when I look back at, you know.

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Speaker 1: Here, I was in a comfort zone, living outside of Boston,

452
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Speaker 1: had a very successful business, doing great, loving what I

453
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Speaker 1: was doing, and decided I want to change. So basically

454
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Speaker 1: selling the half of the business, going to a new

455
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Speaker 1: city where I don't know anyone, literally did not know

456
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Speaker 1: one person, and starting all new super super scary, but

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Speaker 1: I chalk it up to being twenty six years old.

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Speaker 1: But basically because you're fearless when you're younger, you know,

459
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Speaker 1: and the natural progression of life is you learn enough

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Speaker 1: to learn that, hey, I have a good reason to

461
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Speaker 1: have fear. And so the problem that you know, I

462
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Speaker 1: see all the time, certainly with friends and whatever, is

463
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Speaker 1: people say no to things and because of fear.

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Speaker 4: Oh geez, I don't want to do that or.

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Speaker 1: Whatever, And so I look back at and so I'm

466
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Speaker 1: always challenging myself to say yes and you know, and

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Speaker 1: be fearless. But I do look at, you know, when

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Speaker 1: I open the business, and I think I was just

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Speaker 1: young and optimistic, and I had my eye on the

470
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Speaker 1: prize and there was no one that could tell me

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Speaker 1: anything other than I was going to make it. And

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Speaker 1: so I think that determination, that being slightly naive and

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Speaker 1: just kind of the passion is what made it work.

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Speaker 1: I think let's see, so what happens is when you

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Speaker 1: own your own business, you have to wear every hat

522
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Speaker 1: right when you're starting out, you can't afford to hire

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Speaker 1: people and that sort of thing. And I remember hearing

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Speaker 1: once you know that, you know, people said you need

525
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Speaker 1: to strengthen your weaknesses. And so because I was wearing

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Speaker 1: a lot of hats, I was not only hands on esthetician.

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Speaker 1: I was a product formulator, but I was also you know,

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Speaker 1: the bookkeeper, and I was also you know kind of

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Speaker 1: you know, operations and things like that. Well, my biggest

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Speaker 1: weakness was finance. You know, I'm not a numbers person,

531
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Speaker 1: never have been. But someone said, you know, you got

532
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Speaker 1: to focus on your weakness. So I tried, as painful

533
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Speaker 1: as it was, to be good at finance. You know,

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Speaker 1: I tried to make sense when I looked at my

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Speaker 1: P and L statements and my balance sheet. But it's

536
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: just my eyes just you know, go backward in my head.

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00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: It's just so confusing to me, still is. And I

538
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: someone years later said, hey, don't try. Don't spend time

539
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Speaker 1: trying to strengthen your weaknesses, you know, like focus on

540
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Speaker 1: what you do best, delegate out your weaknesses. And so

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Speaker 1: I finally hired a bookkeeper that could do all of

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Speaker 1: that and somebody that could, you know, make sense of

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Speaker 1: my finances and you know, help me understand in a

544
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Speaker 1: way that I never could. And but but probably the

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Speaker 1: biggest lesson I learned was prior to that, when I

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Speaker 1: decided to no longer be a service provider. So anyone

547
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Speaker 1: in the service business knows that, you know, if you

548
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Speaker 1: have a business and you're being a service provider, it's

549
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Speaker 1: very hard to juggle both. And but I really wanted

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Speaker 1: to focus on e commerce. I wanted to focus more

551
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Speaker 1: on product development, so I told my clients. At this time,

552
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Speaker 1: I was only taking clients three days a week, so

553
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Speaker 1: wasn't a huge deal as opposed to when I first started,

554
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Speaker 1: I was taking clients six days a week. So I

555
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Speaker 1: told my clients six months in advance that I was

556
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Speaker 1: no longer going to be, you know, doing services. I

557
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: was going to focus on the products and e commerce

558
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Speaker 1: and all of that, and I was going to you know,

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Speaker 1: pass them over to one of my estheticians who worked

560
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Speaker 1: for me. But I wanted to give them six months notice,

561
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Speaker 1: so I assumed that once I quote.

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Speaker 4: Unquote retired out of the room.

563
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Speaker 1: I later ended up going back into the treatment room

564
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Speaker 1: years later once I opened up a second location. But

565
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Speaker 1: I actually I am still hands on service provider pre COVID

566
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Speaker 1: out in LA and do house calls for some celebrity clients.

567
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Speaker 1: So I still I do work hands on a little bit.

568
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Speaker 1: But so I retired from the room, and what I

569
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Speaker 1: didn't realize was how much my service, the revenue I

570
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Speaker 1: got from my services was kind of keeping the whole

571
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Speaker 1: business afloat, you know, helping payroll whatnot. But all of

572
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Speaker 1: a sudden, now I had to pay my estheticians instead

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Speaker 1: of that money coming to the business aka me, And

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, two months into it

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Speaker 1: or whatever, all of a sudden, I'm like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: why can't I make payroll? And basically, had I been

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Speaker 1: a numbers person and been able to make sense of

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Speaker 1: all of that, I wouldn't have. I would have probably realized, hey,

579
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Speaker 1: you know, let's do this a little slower. Instead of

580
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Speaker 1: doing three days a week, why didn't you cut down

581
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Speaker 1: to two days? See how that goes one day by

582
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Speaker 1: kind of pulling the plug cold turkey, and you know,

583
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Speaker 1: doing six seven clients a day, three days a week,

584
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Speaker 1: that was a lot of a lot of income that

585
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Speaker 1: the company was getting that was no longer coming, and

586
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, I couldn't make payroll.

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Speaker 4: So I think, you know, the biggest lesson I learned was.

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Speaker 1: Just if I'm not going to be good at finances,

589
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Speaker 1: I need to hire and delegate someone that can monitor

590
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Speaker 1: that for me so I can see problems coming before

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Speaker 1: they arise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can totally relate on that. You want

593
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Speaker 3: to do everything yourself because asking or having someone else

594
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Speaker 3: do something means that you need to find the means.

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Speaker 2: To pay them.

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Speaker 3: But sometimes those decisions not to can cost you, as

597
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Speaker 3: you learned, more than it would cost to bring someone

598
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Speaker 3: on to give you a hand. The best thing I've

599
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Speaker 3: done for myself so far as an entrepreneur. In God,

600
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Speaker 3: there's so much more to do. But is you know,

601
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Speaker 3: pay for the trademark attorney, pay for the accountant, like,

602
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: get those people that are better than you to help

603
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Speaker 3: you be better when you know it's within your means.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, Yeah, we have a thing.

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Speaker 1: So there's something that I do in my company and

606
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Speaker 1: my team always is challenging me about this, but we

607
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Speaker 1: do this thing called is renade working on her fives

608
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Speaker 1: So what you do is you write down everything that

609
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: you currently do for your for your job, for your business, whatever,

610
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: and you write down everything that you'reible for and you

611
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: rank them one to five. One is I hate it,

612
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Speaker 1: good riddance. If I never had to do it again,

613
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Speaker 1: I'd be so happy. And then you go up the ladder,

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Speaker 1: you know, two, three, you know, Four is like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I mean it's okay, I like it.

616
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Speaker 4: I can do it.

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Speaker 1: It's not, you know, not my favorite, but yeah, I

618
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: don't mind doing it. And five, of course is I

619
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Speaker 1: could do this all day.

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Speaker 4: I love it. This is what makes me truly happy.

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Speaker 1: And so my team is always challenging me to only

622
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Speaker 1: do fives because that's where the company needs me. The

623
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Speaker 1: company needs Renee to be doing the things that she

624
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Speaker 1: is so good at and she loves because that's the

625
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Speaker 1: biggest strength. And so whenever we're in meetings, naturally, because

626
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Speaker 1: I'm somebody that you know, you know, bootstrapped the business,

627
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Speaker 1: wore every hat for so long, it doesn't come easy

628
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Speaker 1: to delegate when we're in meetings sometimes, you know, and

629
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Speaker 1: then we are coming up with some new idea or whatever,

630
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Speaker 1: and there's some task associated with it. I'll go, oh,

631
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Speaker 1: I'll do it, and I'll go, is that a five

632
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Speaker 1: for you, Renee, And I'm like no, They're like no,

633
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Speaker 1: we don't want you doing it. And I love how

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Speaker 1: they protect me that way, you know, because again they

635
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Speaker 1: want me to shine where I want to shine. And so,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a few things on my list. There

637
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: are threes and fours that I still have to do

638
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: only because we haven't delegated or whatever. But for the

639
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Speaker 1: most part, most of the things that I do are fives,

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Speaker 1: and it's great.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people strive to be in

642
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Speaker 3: a position with their work where they are doing more fives.

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Speaker 3: When I talk to clients when I'm one and a

644
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Speaker 3: lot of these individuals may be in the middle of

645
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Speaker 3: some sort of a job transition and they're trying to

646
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 3: figure out, like what their next move should be. I

647
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: often encourage them to separate things, kind of like what

648
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: you're talking about, into three columns, like the list of

649
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: things that you hate about what you're doing right now,

650
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Speaker 3: the list of things in the middle that you do

651
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Speaker 3: right now that are like fine, and then the list

652
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Speaker 3: of things that you totally love that are the quote

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Speaker 3: unquote five.

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Speaker 2: As you refer to them. Sure, when you look at what's.

655
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Speaker 3: In column two and column three, you can start to

656
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 3: you know, be there creator of your next role ideally,

657
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 3: like what is it that you want to be doing

658
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 3: more of that can help you feel more fulfilled so

659
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Speaker 3: that you can go on and you know, feel like

660
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 3: you're really contributing something to your day to day and

661
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: to you know, wherever company you might be a part of.

662
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, it's a great exercise for people to do. No,

663
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 4: I love that.

664
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 3: For someone who you know wants to be doing more

665
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 3: fives and is kind of stuck in doing maybe the threes,

666
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: maybe even the twos, what do you say to them?

667
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: Well, I think people need to look at their life

668
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: and really decide if they're.

669
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 4: Happy doing that.

670
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: People ask me a lot, they go, oh, Renee, how

671
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: do you have you know, work life balance like, and

672
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, I have none, because you know, I'm just

673
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: always doing what makes me happiest, and oftentimes work is

674
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: what makes me happiest. And so it's not a if

675
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm doing all fives in my job and I'm like,

676
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: I love this, I love my life. This makes me

677
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: so happy. Why would I do anything less than a five?

678
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't matter whether it's work or whatever.

679
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: You know, like do fives in every area of your life, right,

680
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: like always try to do things that just fuel you,

681
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: bring you such joy. And so yeah, people need to

682
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: look both professionally and personally and deciding, you know, are

683
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: they living fives in their life and if they're not,

684
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: they need to figure out, hey, maybe I need to

685
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: change up something.

686
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 3: Talk to me about what it was like after you

687
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 3: moved to Austin.

688
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: It was amazing because everything was new. You know, your

689
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: eyes are wide open again. And I remember I was

690
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: in La once and I was in an uber going

691
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: to one of my clients' houses and we're on some

692
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: highway I can't remember where.

693
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 4: We were in at Tarzana actually.

694
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: And I i and there was these beautiful mountains or something,

695
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: and I had never been out there, and so.

696
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 4: I said to the uber driver, I said, oh wow,

697
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 4: you know, a look how beautiful that is.

698
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 1: And he he looks and he went, huh yeah, and

699
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: he just it was like no big deal and what

700
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: And what I realized was, you know, this guy drives

701
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: his highway every day. He doesn't even see the beauty

702
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: in it anymore. Right, He's just like whatever. And that's

703
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: what happens. When you live somewhere all the time, you

704
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: don't see the beauty, the you know, the fascination in

705
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: it anymore. So moving to Austin, your eyes are all

706
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: of some wide open and everything is so cool, and

707
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, because it's all new, and so I just

708
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: that's always the beauty of it is. Just when you

709
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: move somewhere new, it's just it's amazing. You take it

710
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: all in and I always now, you know, I've been

711
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: here five and a half years, but I just try

712
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: not to ever take anything for granted and always see

713
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: the beauty and appreciation and every moment and everything.

714
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: Were there challenges that you didn't expect that came hand

715
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 3: in hand with you moving to Austin and moving the

716
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 3: business to Austin as well.

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00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 4: For sure, Well, mainly we had to hire all new people.

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00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: So we still had a few office you know, kind

719
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: of marketing, customer care support that stayed back in Dallas

720
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: and worked remotely, and so that worked out. We kept

721
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Speaker 1: that we had two people follow us and relocate to

722
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: Austin because they wanted to stay with our company. But

723
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: we basically had to hire all new people. And so

724
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: when you're starting from kind of scratch and hiring all

725
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: new people. You know, that creates challenges because you know,

726
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: you're trying to get the right fit and that sort

727
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: of thing. So there was some turnover in the beginning

728
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: until we kind of got our right crew again.

729
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 4: And now, you know, fast forward.

730
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: All of our company is here and all of our

731
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: team is in Austin, so we don't have anyone in

732
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: Dallas anymore. And we have a team of nineteen and

733
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: we just moved in a couple of months ago into

734
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: all new office and warehouse and so we have eleven

735
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: thousand square feet of amazing office and warehouse space for

736
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Speaker 1: our team in nineteen Now obviously people are working from

737
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: home because of the pandemic and whatnot. But anyway, but yeah,

738
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: so that was the main challenge was just you know,

739
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: hiring and finding great talent.

740
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Speaker 3: You mentioned the pandemic. I know, earlier in the show

741
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 3: you also mentioned your late husband. You've had a couple

742
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 3: of challenging years here.

743
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, so my husband passed away a little over two

744
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,959
Speaker 1: years ago. He was the CEO of my company, which

745
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: is basically my right hand and he was also my

746
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: partner in life. We were together twenty two years before

747
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: he passed away, so that's a long time. He was

748
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: perfectly healthy and one day got a sharp pain in

749
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Speaker 1: his stomach, and after about thirty six hours it became

750
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: so unbearable that he went to the emergency room and

751
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: a week later they determined he had stage four cancer

752
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 1: and gave him six months to live, and he died

753
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: two day shy six months. So wow, it was you know,

754
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: you just you know, went a lot. You know, when

755
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: people pass away, oftentimes it's suddenly, you know, car accident,

756
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: heart attack, or if somebody has cancer, you know, there's

757
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: a long journey and you know, usually people can kind

758
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: of fight it for a few years or so, and

759
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: so this was unique and that you know, it was

760
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: a death sentence and there wasn't a cure, and it

761
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: was really fast. So that was certainly a big challenge

762
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: because again he was a leader in our company, and

763
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Speaker 1: you know, I relied on him so much, and he

764
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: was you know, he you know, I played in my strengths.

765
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: He placed you know, to his drinks, but his strengths

766
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: were my weaknesses, and so I relied a lot on him.

767
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: And so having to navigate being a caretaker and trying

768
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Speaker 1: to make the best of the last six months he

769
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: had while still trying to run a company, while still

770
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: trying to allow him to get some things, you know,

771
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: checked off his bucket list. But yet we still had

772
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: to have the company run. So you know, there were

773
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: a lot of challenges there. And just like I learned

774
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: in anything in life, you know, you don't have all

775
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: the answers for the future, but you can make answers

776
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: for today and just putting one foot in front of

777
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: the other and navigating it the best you can.

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00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 4: And you know that's what we did.

779
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Speaker 2: What a hurdle. Firstly, thank you for sharing that.

780
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 3: I think when you touched on this idea of needing

781
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: to show up despite feeling so many ways and dealing,

782
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: you know, with the personal challenges that come with.

783
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: This, how did you show up?

784
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 3: Because I think that's a question that so many people

785
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 3: struggle with, in an idea that so many people struggle with,

786
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: it's this idea that I.

787
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Speaker 2: Just can't get out of bed today. I can't do this.

788
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: Like where was your head at during those dark times?

789
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think you know, talking about comfort zone,

790
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: I was in a comfort zone. I was with somebody

791
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: for twenty two years who adored me, loved me, I

792
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: loved him. I was in a comfort zone with him

793
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: being the CEO of the company, so I had delegated

794
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: a lot to him. So there were a lot of

795
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: areas of the business that I really didn't know anything

796
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: about it anymore because it wasn't my job, and so

797
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: being out of my comfort zone certainly, you know, when

798
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: he did pass away, now I had to you know,

799
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 1: stand up in front of my company and feeling super

800
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: vulnerable because there were, you know, areas of the business

801
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: that I had to either learn or hire someone new

802
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: for or whatever, and I had to put those hats

803
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: back on. But also relaying strength. You know, every you know,

804
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: when when a leader passes away, everybody is worried, you know,

805
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: and and so just really portraying strength, even though it

806
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: didn't feel I didn't feel strong. And then personally, when

807
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: I look back on it, you know, certainly when he

808
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: was sick, you know, it's it's I quickly realized it's

809
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: not like in the movies where it's like, oh my gosh,

810
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: and you know, we had six months to live and

811
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: it's going to be all wonderful and joyous, and we're

812
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: going to spend all this time, you know, you know,

813
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: talking about life and you know, reminiscing about all that

814
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: was great and you know, and we did do some

815
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: of that, but unfortunately, the type of cancer he had

816
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: it created tumors on his liver, which sent ammonia to

817
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: his brain, which caused anger and psychosis. And so it

818
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: was not all a bet of roses, and so it

819
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: was very, very challenging. And you know, he was not

820
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: the greatest patient. He was ex military, super strong, super stubborn,

821
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: and he wanted to go out his way and that

822
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: needed to be honored. But as a caretaker and his

823
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 1: wife that you know, there were sometimes that I most

824
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: definitely said getting in a car accident, I would have

825
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: taken that, you know, way over what I'm having to

826
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: work with now. Now, in hindsight, I wouldn't change a thing,

827
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: because the beauty of someone having advanced notice of their

828
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: death is they get to share all their wishes for you.

829
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: And so when he passed away, for me personally and

830
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: then certainly you know, of course carried over to professionally.

831
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: But the best way I could honor his life was

832
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: by moving forward. And so I anytime I would you know,

833
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: play victim and woe is me or whatever. I would

834
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: just erase that immediately, and I'm like, you know, life

835
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: is short.

836
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 4: I learned that real.

837
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: Quick and and the best way I can move forward

838
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: is to keep moving forward with my life, live my

839
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: best life, you know, date again. That's what he wanted

840
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: for me, you know, be strong, travel, like, just keep

841
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: on living and so that and that's you know, anytime

842
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: I cried, you know, I let myself cry.

843
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 4: It wasn't that I was trying.

844
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: To just be tough, but but you know when I cried,

845
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: trust me, I would cry. But at the same time

846
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: I would get back up and just keep moving forward.

847
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: And you know, I got a lot of strength from

848
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: knowing that he wanted me to be strong, and that's

849
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: the best way to respect and honor him.

850
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: I'm sure so many lessons from that experience carrying over

851
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 3: into the past year into positively moving your business through

852
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 3: the COVID pandemic. I saw that you put up a

853
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 3: post back in January talking about all the accomplishments for

854
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 3: Renee Rolo Skincare over the last year. I mean everything

855
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 3: from being recognized is one of the best places to

856
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 3: work by the Austin Business journal, no layoffs or pay

857
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 3: cuts despite the pandemic.

858
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 2: Nine of your skincare products winning awards.

859
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 3: I mean, this is all you consciously looking for the

860
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 3: silver linings always.

861
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

862
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: Well, and it was interesting, Yeah, when we got recognition

863
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: as the best place to work. That was actually one

864
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: of my late husband's dying wishes, he said, and we'd

865
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: always kind of talked about that would be cool to

866
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: get that, and he said, Renee, I want you to

867
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: make that happen. And we made that happen last year,

868
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: and so that was a huge way to honor him

869
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Speaker 1: because that was the goal he set out for me.

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Speaker 2: Are you excited about right now?

871
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Speaker 4: What am I excited about?

872
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'm excited about. One being on

873
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: Emily's podcast. So this is super exciting.

874
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: Last year I started, you know, seeking out or people

876
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: start reaching out wanting to have me be on podcasts,

877
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: and it's been super fun and so I'm really excited

878
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: for this opportunity.

879
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 4: Thank you.

880
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm also super excited about Clubhouse. Are you familiar with that?

881
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: I am, you know, I'm just getting into Clubhouse and

882
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 3: I have a personal strategy. This is so funny that

883
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 3: you're saying with this to me, I have a personal

884
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: strategy session on my calendar for tomorrow thinking about ways

885
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 3: that I can engage with Clubhouse. Yeah, talk to the

886
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: hurdlers about what clubhouse is and why it excites you.

887
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: So this is this is where my head is with it.

888
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: So I am an expert, and when you're an expert,

889
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: you have things to share, you know. I mean, people

890
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: are using it for learning opportunities, but I happen to

891
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: have the advantage that I'm an expert. So one of

892
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: the things that I would, you know, do often is

893
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 1: do like an Instagram live right where you can interact

894
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: with people and you can answer rapid fire questions. But

895
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: the problem with that, and I say, the problem is,

896
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, I got to make sure my hair looks nice, makeup,

897
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: and you know, I just you know, I'm in the

898
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: appearance industry, and so sometimes I'm like, I don't.

899
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 4: Feel like it. I just worked out and blah blah

900
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 4: blah whatever.

901
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: And so the great thing about Clubhouse is I can

902
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: go on there and be an expert and answer skincare questions.

903
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: But I can do it and look like crap, and

904
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 1: it's so great and I can do it at any time.

905
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Speaker 4: It's convenient for me.

906
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: But the benefit of Clubhouse, which which is even cooler,

907
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 1: is if I do an Instagram live or something, it's

908
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: just me. But if you're in a room, I'll get

909
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: invited up to what's called the stage, and so there's

910
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 1: other experts on the stage, and it's been super fun

911
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: to have conversations with other experts and answering questions from

912
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: the audience. So I actually hosted a room the other

913
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Speaker 1: day and it was me, so an esthetician, a dermatologist,

914
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: a cosmetic surgeon, and a pharmacist. So the four of

915
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: us were the experts answering questions and it was so amazing.

916
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: So I'm really loving the networking opportunity. And now through Clubhouse,

917
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Speaker 1: I have a really popular skincare blog that I started

918
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: back in two thousand and five and we have over

919
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: one thousand posts, and it's like true skincare education for

920
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: the skincare enthusiast.

921
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 4: And from time to time I'll loop in.

922
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: Other experts on certain posts where they have a different

923
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: area of expertise than I do, and so it's so great.

924
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: So now like these new people that I'm meeting, like

925
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: a celebrity, you know, cosmetic surgeon or whatever he's gonna

926
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to collaborate with him on a post for

927
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Speaker 1: my blog. And so it's great to you know, network

928
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: with other experts. But yeah, clubhouse is great. But then

929
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: it's also for learning, and you know, there's you know,

930
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: learn about TikTok, learn about social media, learn about entrepreneurship,

931
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: and so a lot of times I just sit back

932
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: in the audience and I'm asking questions that I'm learning.

933
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: But then there's other times I'm being the expert and

934
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Speaker 1: I'm sharing. So it's to me, it's just such a

935
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: great win win.

936
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Speaker 2: You're making me excited to get more into clubhouse. Stay tuned.

937
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 2: It's great. What's the skincare blog called?

938
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Speaker 4: It doesn't have a name, it's just on my website

939
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 4: if you click on blog.

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Speaker 2: I do have a question.

941
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: I mean, you mentioned being in a room with dermatologists.

942
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 3: Did you ever think about becoming a dermatologist? No?

943
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: No, I barely made it through high school. I was

944
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: like the worst student, and so the thought of going

945
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: to for any more college or you know, that was

946
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: not even an option.

947
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 4: I love learning, but my learning.

948
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: Has to be fives right, and I know that going

949
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: to college and or being a dermatologist. I'd have to

950
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: learn a lot of things that just would make my

951
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: brain explode.

952
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 4: And I just been to it.

953
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 3: When someone comes to your social media page, they see

954
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 3: what I would say as a badass woman with paink

955
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: care who is a business owner and a smart skincare CEO.

956
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 3: When you look in the mirror, what is it that

957
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: you see looking back at you?

958
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: I see strength and happiness. You know, I really kind

959
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: of in this new chapter of my life after you know,

960
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: my husband passed away, you know, again, having I was

961
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: totally out of my comfort zone, both professionally and personally,

962
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: and really I'm kind of like the comeback kid and

963
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: being able to pull myself up, you.

964
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 4: Know, and move forward, but with a renewed focus. That's

965
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Speaker 4: the whole thing.

966
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Speaker 1: I mean, for six months, you know, I watched the

967
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: demise of someone's body and their mind. But everything they

968
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: do to prep for that. Right, if someone tells you

969
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: you have six months to live, what are you going

970
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: to do? You know, what, how are you going to

971
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: make the best of those last six months? And and

972
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: my husband, the way he handled his last six months

973
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: was so unbelievable, and the lessons and actually, if you

974
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Speaker 1: go back to my if you go on Instagram and

975
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: kind of scroll back, I shared a lot of the

976
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Speaker 1: lessons and a lot of the stories. I also use

977
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Speaker 1: the hashtag this is Florian f l O r a

978
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Speaker 1: N this is Florian. So if someone goes that the hashtag,

979
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Speaker 1: they can read a lot about that. But the lessons

980
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: and wisdom I gained from really understanding of the meaning

981
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: of life is just priceless, priceless. And so I look

982
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: in the mirror and I just you know, I have

983
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: so much clarity about how I want to live the

984
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Speaker 1: rest of my life, what my life's purpose is, and

985
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Speaker 1: I'm living.

986
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Speaker 3: In You a an opportunity right now to offer yourself

987
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 3: one piece of advice looking back at the last two

988
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 3: three really difficult years, What do you tell yourself?

989
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: I tell myself that the clocks ticken, start living, and

990
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: that means, you know, being really strategic with how to

991
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: spend time. You know, I think that's certainly what I

992
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,439
Speaker 1: learned is time is not guaranteed. You know, we could

993
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: die today and time is all you have, and where

994
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: are you going to put your time and energies? And

995
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: so I'm super super strategic about who I let in

996
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: my life, who I give time and energy to I.

997
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 4: You know, if there are.

998
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: People that it's not bringing me value, I won't give

999
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: them my time, or people with bad energy or drama

1000
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: or whatever. But just really valuing my time and setting

1001
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 1: a lot of boundaries about that, and so I make

1002
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: a lot of good choices about how I spend my

1003
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Speaker 1: time because time is a limited resource.

1004
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for opening up today, for your

1005
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 3: honesty and for sharing with all of the hurdlers.

1006
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 2: It's so appreciated.

1007
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 4: Thanks. Thanks, I really loved it. Thanks Emily, appreciate the opportunity.

1008
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 2: How does everybody keep up with you? Give me the details?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Renee Rollo and then my company page is Rene

1010
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: Renee Relau Skincare. So if you're more interested in learning

1011
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: about me as a person, I do talk a little

1012
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: bit about skincare, but not a ton. But if you're

1013
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: a true skincare enthusiast and you want to hear all

1014
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: of our offerings skincare education as well as well as products,

1015
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: than the Renee Relow Skincare company page beautiful.

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Speaker 3: I am over at Emily Body and at Hurdle Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Another Hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.