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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Naughty but Nice Sham your host Rob's Shooter.

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday. Normally every Wednesday, our dear friend Donnie

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Speaker 1: not his fault, it's my fault. I'm doing so much publicity,

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Speaker 1: I hope you forgive me. I'm sure you will. He will.

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Speaker 1: I know he'll be listening. So Hello, Hell, hello Donnie.

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Speaker 1: Let's jump into the show. What time is it, my friends?

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Speaker 1: It is tea time. Big story. At the top of

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Speaker 1: the show, this is a complicated story. Tyler Perry is

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Speaker 1: blasting a seventy seven million dollars sexual assault lawsuit, calling

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Speaker 1: it a quote money grab. So Tyler Perry is fighting back,

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Speaker 1: really fighting back hard at a seventy seven million dollar

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Speaker 1: sexual assault lawsuit, calling it a shameless money grab. In

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Speaker 1: Perry claims that the actor and model his name is

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Speaker 1: rab Mario Rodriguez, is putting out outlandish falsehoods with no

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Speaker 1: basis in fact or law. He goes on to say

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Speaker 1: that none of this ever happened Mario. He alleges that

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Speaker 1: Tyler Perry made unwanted advances after casting him in a

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Speaker 1: Medea Halloween film. Tyler Perry denies any misconduct, claiming that

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Speaker 1: Mario repeatedly sought financial help and retaliated when the money stopped.

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Speaker 1: So what Tyler is saying here is that Mario was

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Speaker 1: a struggling actor. He got the opportunity of a lifetime

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Speaker 1: the box office. So he was cast in a movie

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Speaker 1: but not Julia Roberts' money. Nobody knows who Mario Roderiguez is.

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Speaker 1: He's not Brad Pitt, he's not George Clooney. So he

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Speaker 1: You're not. I have a lot of friends who are actors,

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Speaker 1: and they make sixty eighty one hundred thousand dollars a year,

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Speaker 1: George Clooney. And so Mario was struggling to pay his bills,

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Speaker 1: and Tyler Perry is saying that throughout the filming of

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Speaker 1: this bill? Can you help me pay that bill? That's

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Speaker 1: what Tyler Perry is saying, happened to you. And at

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Speaker 1: first Tyler Perry gave him money. But when he stopped,

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Speaker 1: that's when things got really, really ugly, is what Tyler

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Speaker 1: It's that clear. It's not Hello, how are you. It's like,

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Speaker 1: That's the point that Tyler Perry seems to be suggesting

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Speaker 1: be important here in this case is text messages, is emails.

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Speaker 1: but it still exists somewhere. So Tyler Perry's people are

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Speaker 1: proved very very clearly that Tyler was generous, Tyler was kind,

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Speaker 1: At the moment, it's a he said, he said, we

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Speaker 1: don't know the outcome. Tyler Perry wants this lawsuit tossed out,

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Speaker 1: which brings us to our whole question of the day.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Perry is blasting a seventy seven million dollar lawsuit.

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Speaker 1: He says it is a money grab. Do you believe him?

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Speaker 1: Do you believe Tyler Perry? I know that we think

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Speaker 1: so Roach said, quote, the wedding has happened already, you

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Speaker 1: Zendeya have managed to carve out a private life for themselves.

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Speaker 1: She's told us it was awful. People were really awful

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Speaker 1: to her. After she won American Idol. She would go

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