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The perfect partnership of weights. 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:04.520 If the into the Gangster Chronicles James McDonald, Rixie Reright Jr. 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:09.040 And Alex Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network Material Witness 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:12.480 on an aggregated battery. I was a hang gun and 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:18.240 um they believe this might be in retaliation to her testimony. 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:23.039 Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening. Welcome to another 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:26.720 episode of The Gangster Chronicles. And I am Alex Alonso 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.920 from Street TV a k a. Street Gangs dot Com. 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:33.040 And I'm here with my co host James McDonald from 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:36.640 Gangster Chronicles James McDonald, And uh, we gotta give a 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:38.600 shout out to our third co host because the last 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:40.720 time he called in James last week, he was a 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.560 little bitter saying that we forgot all about him. So 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.920 Reggie Wright Jr. He's only here in spirit, but he's 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:51.640 not here in the presence because he's sitting down right 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:57.160 now for a minute at Atwater Federal Camp, Federal Penitentiary. 0:01:57.680 --> 0:01:59.800 Well he's actually he's not an f CI, So he's 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:03.560 in the penitentiary. Anytime you somewhere where you can't go 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.240 home when you want to, you in jail. Yeah, I don't. 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.520 I don't think you can call it camp a penitentiary 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:12.240 though it is part of the penitentiary. It's just a camp. 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:17.359 But the Campaign Penitentiary, I've been there. It's Campaign penitentiary. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.680 The f c I Penitentiary. So if you go to 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.920 the whole, if you go to it's all the same thing, Alex, 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:24.880 but they call him this time. It's just the name 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.760 to the ship. What makes a difference, Yeah, I mean, 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:30.359 but I mean it's a difference between y A and 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:34.200 Juvenile Hall. You're still locked up. What's the difference. You're 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:38.320 still fight, you still get stabbed. Everybody got a date 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:41.960 to go home, so don't what's the difference. Jail is jail? 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.639 Why why? Y is a little bit more serious than 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.360 juvenile Hall. Now you have been to juvenile I've never 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.000 been to jive. Juven A Hall prepped you to get 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:54.840 where you're going. Yeah, you you're gonna fight in the 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:58.079 gym and juvenile hard you got the one. I've never 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:03.120 been to jail for everybody, it's alright. So this this 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.760 is episode thirty one. I mean, I'm going backwards this 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.399 episode thirty seven. And if you're new to the podcast, 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.880 please go back and listen to some of our previous episodes. 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.680 If you're listening on Apple Podcasts, please give us a 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.800 rating and review. 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I'll do some of the fact checking 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.520 a little bit later, but we got a guest today 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:28.880 that there's no doubt part of Los Angeles West Coast 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:34.279 hip hop history. Just about every single name that is 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.599 relevant in hip hop that is a producer or a 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:43.279 rapper came through him pretty much. Um, this guy started 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.480 early in the game when when this type of music 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:47.520 was new. In fact, I think he started before they 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.000 was even calling it hip hop, you know, before they 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.599 was calling it rap pretty much. And um, the guy 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:57.000 you keep hearing say pretty much is Alonzo Williams father. 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:58.760 West Coast hip hop was happening with you. Well, let 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.680 me ask you. You started in this man fresh out 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.240 of high school, and it wasn't really called rapping hip 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.080 hop back man. We you know, we were we were 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:08.479 pop not we was locking and you know we was 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:12.520 they had uh it was locking once to dance and 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.840 you had groups like uh cats out of Watch Watch 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.280 Profits doing the rap. But it wasn't hip hop. It 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.320 was just you know, they had a rap group. And 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.560 you had the guys that was locked up in the prison. 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.960 Uh you talking about the Watch Profits. All these all 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:30.240 these guys, they were rappers back in the seventies. M 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.359 D was a member of that and he had an 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.919 album in nineteen sixties six called Rapping Black in a 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:40.320 White World. Technically that would be the first rap album ever. 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.360 Technically he was rapping in the nineteen but it wasn't 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.960 hip hop. It wasn't hip hop. Right, and I'm still around, 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:50.120 he's almost about eight years. You know about those cats, 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.360 We knew about those cats, but you know, we wasn't 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:54.880 following those footsteps. We just was trying to figure out 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:56.520 how to get you know, how to lock and how 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:58.760 to how to do the thing that Don Campbell was 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.359 doing at Centennio. You know, that's we did, you know, 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.760 so you know hip hop was you know, it wasn't 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.159 even a term yet, what was it? A term in 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:09.679 l a right right, right right. They was definitely floating 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.120 that term out and on the East Coast since the 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:16.679 early seventies, Don Campbell legendary. Would you say a locker 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:20.320 or a popper locker? Locker? Locker? He invented locking. He 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.440 brought that at while crazy hopping and know your knees 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:27.240 and jumping around to uh to soul train. That's we 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.440 first I thought on soul Train. But a couple of 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:32.640 the guys that um danced with him, one of them 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.200 with Centennial and uh, he brought it to Compton and 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.560 we tried, we tried our best to immulate that stuff. Man. 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.000 So he was from Compton, I don't know. I can't 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:43.120 say he was from Compton. I know his boy, Steve, 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:45.800 one of his guys, Steve dad was Don Campbell on 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.560 Soul Train. He was from Compton, and uh he was. 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:50.960 He brought it to he brought it to us and 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.039 we tried our best to get our you know, get 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.040 our lock on. That's crazy. So did you do a 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:58.479 little bit about yourself? I tried. It was the thing 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.800 that lock, but lock. It wasn't getting you laid though, 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.720 So I didn't really I left that alone real quick. Well. 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:08.679 Ship locking got a lot of people introduced in movies 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:10.960 and and right, the kind of stuff, right, you know, 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:15.360 so locking was popular. Locking got you on Soul Train. Yeah, okay, yeah, 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.560 you had to be good to get on Soul Tracker. 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:20.280 I tried my best. I'm one of my friends. Uh 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.080 was Freddie Maxie from Compton and she was on Soul Train. 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.200 She was a Soul trained regular. She would give us 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.520 locking lessons over there of a Ward and Long Beach Boulevard. Yeah, 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.880 my boy, she was a regular. On soul Train, and 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:34.120 we I never I never, I never got the Soul 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:39.520 train as a locker performer. Nothing. Man. Oh yeah, that's 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.360 so trained. Was the place to be in the seventies. 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:45.120 Man ship, Yeah I got. I got used my my 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.480 college vocabulary and my street vocabulary, which when I gotta 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:51.880 use anyone you want, okay, alight, want to make sure 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.160 we try to keep it. But y'all in the nice building, 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:55.760 you know, you know, I don't make sure that y'all 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.520 get throw the body here. I got some Samuel Jackson 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.640 ship sometimes so I have to works mouth. So alright, 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:03.760 that's good. I'm glad to hear that. I can feel 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.280 free trying to do me James, the curse a little 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:10.440 less sometimes, not only it's because sometimes, uh, we want 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.840 our our content to reach a large audience, okay, and 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.080 some people just be hating on the cursewords for some reason. 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:20.600 You know what curs wars man. People love Samuel Jackson. 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:22.840 They know he could custom. He was a custom motherfucker. 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:26.400 But then if you do it, oh that's not that's 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.880 what we do sometimes. So you grew up talking about 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.520 where you grew up just outside of Countin. I was 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:35.120 born in Compton off of Magnolia and want me too. 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.040 But we left there and moved right there by Vanguard 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:42.040 off in the in the l A County. But everything 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:45.520 I did and with the Vanguard St Albert's Cintennio, so 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:50.559 everything I did, pay phone bills, everything but the right. Yeah, 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.240 that was I first tried to do the swamps over there. 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.560 I never missed the swamps. But swamp was right around 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.080 the corner from St. Alberts. Yeah, the swamps on that side, 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.200 on the other side, and I Campanella was my park. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.840 Although I lived near Anthens, Campanella was my park because 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.400 I walked past there every day. I played baseball the Campingella, 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:11.520 huge baseball park. I played baseball the Campanella on the 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.680 braves and stuff. And I'd walked from Saint Albert's hanging 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.679 out the park and go to practice. So that part 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.680 is right outside of Compton. I think they'd called it 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:24.120 what a Rosewood at the time. Rosewood is tech Rosewood 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:28.160 is actually Compton. I'm I'm I'm like an Anthen's almost. 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.120 I don't even know what they called my neighborhood, man, 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:31.520 It's just yeah. I think they went through a few 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:35.040 name changes over the years. Part of the gentrification. Gonna 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.840 name it this. I think that was called Domingus or 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.240 Domingus not quite, not quite. I don't know about the 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.040 Mingus and more. I won't say more rods West Dominas. 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.720 Never heard West Domingas. No, I never heard that. I've 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:50.240 seen a sign over there, but that's like we Compton 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:53.079 in Atlantic. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't know, man, 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.640 the linement is the east side. West Domingas will be 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.360 on the west side as the West Dominus. I know 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.200 they turned that over there of Dominius. I don't know. 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:05.280 I saw a sign one day and said Westernminia like 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:09.000 that every part of company. So you lived in the 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:13.360 sort of area that was changing names. The city with 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:18.400 the county wasn't even we had we had Firestone back 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:22.240 of the day. Okay, that's who were trolled by Firestone. 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.800 Let me start getting patrolled by Carson then, because I 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:29.760 started getting patrolled by h Alameda okay, and he just 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:33.520 got crazy Centry. I'm sorry, Sentry, and it's always been 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.920 wildfar that's concerned. So what inspired you man to really 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.360 get Because when I was a kid um in the 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.439 early eighties, you know, I was just eleven twelve, and 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.120 I always heard your name, always heard your name and 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.439 years old, and I always said, down, I wish I 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:49.240 could meet this guy. Be like in a group of 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.480 dudes that are rapping and singing, and your name would 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.960 come up. And I never knew what you look like 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.120 or who you were, just your name would always come up. 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:02.920 Eight one, eighty two, eighty three, eighty four. He was 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:04.880 a man for the party. Yeah, yeah, I used to 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.280 go to even at the dark, and you know that's 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:10.800 where all of us, everybody, everybody years to even after 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.920 dark come out, even over the nineteen seventy nine second 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.640 nineteen sent me nine. Well we was, we was going 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.959 over there in the eighties and uh what what what 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.800 it was is it was cool because you can go 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:27.199 in there because they had a dress code. We most 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:28.920 of us y'all used to let some of the cast, 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:33.280 some of the homies and just flamed up. But if 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:37.000 I didn't know you, you're gonna come in here with 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:41.000 with shirt pants and you're gonna you're gonna look presentable. 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:45.559 And it was cool because every time after after the 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.600 club closed, we had something to do. All or we 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:54.240 went and did were on radio. But that that used 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.440 to crack Foot. I'm talking about every Blood and Compton 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:03.520 are around that every year was there. Everybody we had 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.760 part rules, we had we had a few crips come 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:09.760 through the time of time. It was my brother. Here's 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.200 some kids, some crazy ship. My brother was the only 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:15.920 cat I ever known had dual game relationships. He was 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.760 We lived in Blood Territory, but he went to Gardena 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:24.600 and he ran with the shot shotgun payback, payback, paybacks. 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.720 He remember the paybacks at Gardena. But he came home 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.600 with my mom and ran with the cats on Crosson 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.240 Avenue and Jarvis, Uh, you know, there was all this home. 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:34.760 It was all we all grew up together. But you 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.360 know they gave him a pass on both ends. Everybody 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:38.920 kne where he lived at. Everybody now way he went 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.719 to school at. So when I got the club up, 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.439 he invited something to cast from Payback to come hang 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.920 out the club and it was an issue, but he 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:51.400 was able to squash it and it just worked here. Yeah, 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.160 So that was Jarvis prou back then, I think that 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.480 kind of got it was just Jarvis Man. Jarvis didn't go, 0:12:56.520 --> 0:13:00.360 didn't didn't go. Rue Man to almost the nineties, it 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:07.960 was like maybe a little earlier, but maybe Jarvis was Jarvis. 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:12.280 Yeah it was. Yeah, I think I think Jarvis was 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:17.920 Paru back when we were when you don't remember Down Turner, Yeah, 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:21.040 Don Turner in the eighties. Maybe in the eighties star 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:26.040 claiming Pru okay um because he called himself trying to 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:31.439 be the neighborhood gangster, and uh he wasn't. He wasn't 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.920 the gangster per se. He just had the big mouth 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.720 he was. He was a catty. He couldn't fight, but 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.520 he talked a lot of ship. Well on on our 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:44.720 side of town back then, they was Putting, Putting, you 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.840 know what I'm saying. Right, Putting was the the big 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.800 homie to all, right, from the West side, right, he 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.480 was big to all. So all those other cats was 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.320 coming up and and and talking, just running their mouth 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:01.800 was getting tested back. We was a little cat. So 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.360 it was. It was a big difference growing up watching 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:09.600 the big homies get down opposed to these fake cats 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:14.680 coming out and and and just doing stupid ship. Yeah, 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:18.760 I was an old TC and Paru boys sent the nets. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:22.680 Nobody liked our old TC and me and Putting and 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.600 a couple of other homies got into it. And uh 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:27.880 we had it was a fight when my boys got 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.480 into a fighter Centennial. The fight got broke up by 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.040 security guards. But were coming through Enterprise Park about three 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.720 days later and we lived. We had to go through 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.840 Enterprise Park to go home, and uh, they caught us 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.800 in the park. But my homie, who was well respected, 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.040 I don't know if you're the name Kenny Clay. Kenny 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.080 Clay was a cat from New York. But he ran 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.680 with the Parru boys and he wouldn't let them jump us. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:52.960 And one of my boys would head up with another, 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.680 not not putting, but another one of Pararu boys, and 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.840 he did pretty well. He didn't beat him up, but 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.760 he did better these poles two and that nigga should 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:05.440 nigga took a dive, let it be done. But now 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.240 he did. He had his business and next thing I know, 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.360 they had a hit on our OTC And I never 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:15.880 went back to the again strikes this uniforms gardna. Here 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.680 I come. So he was around all this gang stuff 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:22.080 going on. The first jumped off what you didn't never bang? Though? No, 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.200 I never banged. How did the influence not take over you? 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.240 I never really got into it. Um, I don't know 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:35.680 why maybe um my dad was kicking my kicking my 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:37.400 ass on. She kept me busy all the time. I 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.440 was cutting lines and ship so a centtennio. I ran 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.000 with the r OTC crew, some of them cats, and 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.040 back then everybody it wasn't like you had to claim 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.720 a set. And I was a skinny kid. So back 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.760 in the day in the game banging, it wasn't about 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:54.840 the number, it was about the quality of the cats. 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:56.680 What I'm saying, it was about you had to be 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.120 you had to have hands or whatever the case. Maybe 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.960 as they said, you to be able to thup. Okay, 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.760 and my neighborhood with the guys I read what. I 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.480 didn't have the gang bang, but because I had a 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:11.080 car that I was the homie and he looked out 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.280 for me. So when they did dirt, they run my 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.600 ass off, okay, but they still looked out for me. 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.480 If I had a problem with another gang banger, they 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.480 would intervene. But if it was just a regular civilian, 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:23.920 I had to had on my own business. And that 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.600 was kind of the colde back there. You know, gang 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.640 bangers didn't really mess with civilians. If you did, you know, 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:32.280 if you didn't, you just didn't cross somebody because I've 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.720 been one time, me and uh me and Ralph Carter 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:40.080 had an issue with a vanguard. Ralph Carter snatched back 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:44.360 then we catch war hats to school. Were dressed. Okay, 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.520 I had on a nice ass hat tilting and ship, 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.600 but I had a big ass natural and he grabbed 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:51.560 my hat, took it and he grabbed my hat. He 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:55.680 snatched my hair, and dude, it was on. Okay. I 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.200 didn't know who he was, you know, but he gave 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.760 it back to me because my boy saw what happened. 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.240 No man can take his hat, dude, so he gave 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:06.120 it back to me. And after that was it was squashed. Okay, 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.440 but that was that was a kind of relationships cast 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:10.480 had back then. Oh no, I'm not him to give 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.280 him hat back. It was some the crips. I never 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.159 forgetting one of the guys had I wore another another 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.080 coach to school. One day I was talking to a girl, 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:20.639 came up. A guy came up behind me, put me 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:22.600 in the headlock and choking the shot out of my ass. 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.679 Okay for that leathern jacket, and I'm I'm butting it. 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:27.480 I'm butting it back and man ain't my coat. It 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.240 ain't my give a damn And my partner saw that, 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:32.200 Hey man, you can't take the Niger coat. That didn't 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:37.400 go man. Hatch coaching, biscuits, hat coaching business. Baby, if 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:41.120 you gotta had coaching, especially Waits lines. Yeah, you think 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:45.480 have a bad day. So the RTC. That's sort of 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.159 like military pre military, right, Yeah, But what did you 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.000 have the music inspiring you at that time? I mean 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:54.440 I got the music bug at Camp Anola, not like 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.879 fifteen fifteen years old, because back in the day they 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.960 would do dances at Camp another Gonzalez Park, Lotus Park, 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.520 and if you went to the dances, you know you 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.199 see that, you see this vibe. Excuse me? And I 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:11.080 remember um Rolling buying him from KGFJ was a camping 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.239 on the park and they was rocking, and I just 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.480 want to do what he did. And I didn't know 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:17.439 you you didn't have to be a radio DJ to 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:19.359 do that. I thought you had to be a radio 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:23.000 DJ to play at the park. When I left Centennio 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.080 went to Guardina, they had this little thing come around 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:27.480 for twelfth grader, is what you want to do? And 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.840 you guy to school. I was already working at the 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.720 hospital on Avalon. I got tired of changing bed pans 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:34.800 and stuff, so I want to try something different. I 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.359 checked off radio and I got a little scholarship to 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.520 go to a broadcast school just so I could come 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.080 back and play a Campita of the Park. Never played 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:43.960 Camping in the Park, but I would say Regina Chelly 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.240 all the time. That was my first major. My first 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.919 regular gig with Regina Chelly is all girls school right 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:50.960 there on the cross street from Saint Alberts. So what 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.760 you're doing like DJ and every other week man. And 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:56.600 it was different because I said this in my book, 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:00.560 um in w waiting now without Alonso a little quick plug. Um. 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:04.119 When I first started DJ and Regina Chiley, the nuns 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.440 was the only security guards they had. You know, there 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:10.160 was there was gang activity, but it wasn't that rough, 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:13.000 you know what I'm saying. They was more in Kathery 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.280 put in the shine, their biscuits. They stations and come 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.639 to their pants to come hang out, taste the girls. 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:20.040 And after the set it might be a fight, some 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:22.200 mighty might get jumped on, but for the most part 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:24.840 they respected the nuns. And it wasn't until later on, 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.040 after about a year or so it got a little 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:29.720 after our bringing security guards because cass will get jumped 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:32.720 in Sant Albert's. But it was never that bad. Cash 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:35.280 got stalped out, you know what I'm saying. I was 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:37.960 talking to my boy Yellow Ice about that uh ship 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.160 about two weeks ago. We was laughing about that, how 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:42.440 he would go to Saint Albert's and you know, they 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:44.600 pick out cats to jump on, but they just bank 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:46.080 them up a little bit, put hands on them and 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.200 them know, hey, man, this is our hood. Blah blah 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.440 blah about their business. That's a o G west side 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:58.760 piro right there, you dog. Um. St Albert's for those 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.399 who don't know, is right there there on Compton Boulevard, 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:05.080 just off of Avalon, right there between Ronando Beach and Campton. 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:10.960 Because it kind of yeah or yeah like a chicken 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:14.439 and um. I heard there was always a lot of 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.000 entertainment when I talked to some of the old cats 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:21.199 from Campanella, always parties at Saint Albert. Did you ever 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:23.040 go down to the West Side to some of these parties? 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:25.840 A lot of parties in I went to the two 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:31.320 dollar party, that the gym's, the house parties. I've been 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:34.679 all kind of parties. How about the Saint Albert something, No, 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.639 I don't know. I don't remember the name of it, 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.600 but I've been to a lot of parties because that's 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:45.280 directly walking distance from Campanella Park directly, Yeah, like three 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:47.960 and four minute walk. And I remember talking to some 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:51.280 of O g from Campanella. He said that before the Campanella's, 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:55.680 the and and the Swamps really got into gang bang 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:57.680 and they were all friends. The Swan boys and the 0:20:57.720 --> 0:20:59.640