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Speaker 1: feeling real spries, so much better than the day after

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Speaker 1: Ashley and Jared's wedding. Big news, Uh, we got Danielle

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Speaker 1: We're all gonna be talking to Chicken Man about Jordan's

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Speaker 1: we do that, big news and Bachelor Nation, Ashley I

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Speaker 1: Kennetti has now changed her name to Ashley Iken Nettie

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Speaker 1: Haven Big Big, It's official. We wondered, we didn't know,

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Speaker 1: and it has happened. Uh you know we uh we

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Speaker 1: love those two. We can't talk to Ashley more about

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Speaker 1: her amazing time in Newport. But today is about the

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Speaker 1: second episode of Bachelor in Paradise. This week it was

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Speaker 1: I would not say it was wild and crazy really

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Speaker 1: towards the very end. I want to get Danielle in

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Speaker 1: Easton's opinions. Danielle, if you could explain this episode in

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Speaker 1: can even use four if you need Eastern, you go first. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I would describe this episode as um upsetting. Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: that's fair. You're sad. Let's make sad. It makes me

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Speaker 1: sad and it makes me frustrated. Um. There are parts

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Speaker 1: I would describe it as love square because it's a

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Speaker 1: square between you get it, get it, Jordan's, Nicole, Clay

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Speaker 1: Blake Hannah Dylan uh drama to now Nicole is kind

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Speaker 1: of the bachelorette in Paradise. Here's the rundown of last

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Speaker 1: night's episode, just to remind everybody that was watching. Dean

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Speaker 1: it is. And we know Dean, well, he comes in,

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Speaker 1: mustache kind of adds to it. Here's something I'm a

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Speaker 1: need to bring it back. It's not true. It was

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Speaker 1: had similar reactions when I have grown mustaches. Though Dean

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Speaker 1: We've had amazing response from our listeners when it comes

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Speaker 1: questions we've asked, which makes us so much more fun. Uh. So, listeners,

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Speaker 1: do me a favor. What makes a good mustache? I

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Speaker 1: Room and Easton included, do you sniff your your partner's armpits?

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Speaker 1: Demi and this feels weak because this is an admission

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Speaker 1: are one wise man. Now you you are studying still,

425
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: you're you're just such a smart dude. Let's talk a

426
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 1: little bit about what it's like to be in a

427
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: feud with Jordan. I want you to put you know,

428
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: if you saw this week on the the episode Christian Um,

429
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 1: the newest member to Bachelor in Paradise, Uh, comes in,

430
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: I would explain. Let me just break this down. The

431
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 1: Christian intins first with you, David. But Christian comes in.

432
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: He's got swagger, he's good looking. I'd say he definitely

433
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: comes off as arrogant. Uh, definitely comes off that he

434
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: he belongs there more than anybody else. I think right

435
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: away we could tell that was going to get him

436
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: into trouble. Like I think right away we knew that

437
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: there was something about Christian that was rubbing everybody the

438
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: wrong way. If they would have seen the things he

439
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 1: was saying and doing. But one thing he does do

440
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: is he spots Nicole first and he says, Nicole, I

441
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: want to take you on a date. Nicole is really

442
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: enjoying the attention. We don't blame her, right, it's her

443
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: time on Paradise. You know, Clay and here has a

444
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: great thing going on. But Nicole is definitely enjoying the

445
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 1: attention that's coming on from the outside. And Christian, though,

446
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: is the one guy. It's it's kind of sad for Clay,

447
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: I think in a sense because you have Jordan Kimball

448
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 1: who you're familiar with, David and then Christian, two very

449
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: polarizing figures coming onto the beach and taking Nicole on

450
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: a date. Neither of those figures are gonna stay quiet

451
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 1: for long. But there's a backstory of the Christian Jordan

452
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: relationship they fought on mentel all. Christian was around like

453
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 1: one night and he decided to kind of up out

454
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 1: and have his moment during them. Tell all Jordan and

455
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Anyways, as you're watching this, David, whose side

456
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 1: are you on? So I think I'm on clay side

457
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 1: more than anyone. Um. You know, it's hard to take

458
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: a side in the Jordan's Christian thing that they have

459
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: going on. But you know, Jordan takes claytt. I feel like,

460
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, Jordan is standing up for a friend there.

461
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: You know that you'd take it too far? Yeah, definitely. Um,

462
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: you know there's no reason to get physical there from

463
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 1: what it looks like. UM, but you know, he was

464
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: really standing up for Clay after you know, Clay tried

465
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: to put his best foot forward, after Nicole had said, Hey,

466
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 1: you know, I want you to be more aggressive. I

467
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: want you to, um, you know, put yourself out there.

468
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: And you know Clay could literally, you know, just crushed Christian.

469
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: I feel like literally just that you know, he could

470
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: just pick the guy up and crush him. Um. But

471
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: that's not Clay. Clay's a soft spoken guy, you know,

472
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: really really really super respectful. And I feel like, you know,

473
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: Jordan is just looking out for his friend there. Um.

474
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: So you know, I guess that there's a side to

475
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: take it, you know, definitely the Jordan's and play side. Um.

476
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, Christian is definitely arrogant, you know,

477
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: definitely stubborn, comes into Paradise thinking he's the king there. Um.

478
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: And you know, clearly Nicole definitely had you know, some

479
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: uh you know, charismatic moments with him, and they definitely

480
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: had some chemistry. Um. But you know, I think he

481
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: just kind of picked the whole stick a little too far.

482
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: What do you think? Yeah, I mean I think so do.

483
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: I think you make a great point. We've got to

484
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: be on the clay Side. I want to know from you,

485
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 1: David and anybody else that wanted to chime in here.

486
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: Am I off or wrong? That Christian really really started

487
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: kind of irk me, Like right away, I just felt

488
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: like there was something about him. I don't know him personally,

489
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: but he came in and right away I was like,

490
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: my red flag was up. Is people that listen, the

491
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: listeners out there, please email us and and tweet us

492
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: if that kind of was the same reaction you had,

493
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: but that was my reaction. Yeah, I was getting bad

494
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: vibes immediately. You know, he came in, which I feel

495
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: like it was like really rehearsed. Do you feel that

496
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: like he came in with all these lines in one line,

497
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: like he just like had a game plan coming in

498
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: there and really just you know, his script. That's like

499
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: he had a script going into paradise and said said

500
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: to himself, A right, I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna

501
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: say this, and you know that's really what he did.

502
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: He tried to execute his game plan, and um, it

503
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: was almost like he was playing football or you know,

504
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: I know he's a soccer player, It's almost like he

505
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: was playing soccer. Danielle and Easton. Were either of you

506
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: impressed with Christian swagger or vibe When he first came

507
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: to the beach, he definitely had swag. I'm not going

508
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: to deny that. I was like, this guy is cute,

509
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: but as soon as he started talking, I was like,

510
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: oh no, this guy's gonna cause trouble. And then the

511
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: thing that really threw me off is when he um

512
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: was when Nicole and Clay confronted them to try to

513
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: take Nicole away, and there was this like whole exchange

514
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: between Clay and Christian and things got heated, and then

515
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: Christian was like, Nicole, you pick and she was like, okay,

516
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: well I'm just gonna spend some time with Clay and

517
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: he was like, oh okay, that's all I needed to hear,

518
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: and like walked away and I'm like, what is happening

519
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: right now? Like this guy was just literally crushing Clay

520
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: with his words. And then like Nicole said, I don't know,

521
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: I'm gonna spend some time with Clay and he was like,

522
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah, cool, cool, cool, bro, That's all I needed

523
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: to know, and like gave like Clay a handshake, like

524
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: this is so holding hands through that entire conversation right,

525
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: because we cringe. Very odd, Eason, what do you think

526
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: was Christian at all impressive to you? I mean he

527
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: had swagger, he's a good looking guy. But how quickly

528
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: did that kind of change in your mind? When when

529
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: Christian first showed up? I I didn't like that Jordan

530
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: was roasting him for his shoes because they were cool.

531
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: They were Nick Vapor maaxes. Those are cool shoes. So

532
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I feel bad for this guy. But

533
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: then two and a half minutes later I wrote down

534
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: this note saying Christian sucks. I want to watch Clay

535
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: just roy him. I want to see Clay pick him

536
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: up over his head and throw him into the ocean.

537
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: I want to see that. I don't like Christian. He sucks. Yeah,

538
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: I agree, his shoes are great, so back off. I

539
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: actually had to google. I don't know what kind of

540
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: shoes Jordan told me need to buy, but like googled

541
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: them last night. They're like Tom's looking shoes, right, that's

542
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: what he wanted, he said, espadrills, which is like, um,

543
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: it's hard to explain that they're very like, more female

544
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: like than than males shoes. There there is a male

545
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: adl but but I mean, no, Christian, the one thing

546
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: I'll defend you and keep those vapor maxes on their

547
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: comfortable shoes, like maybe not beach appropriate, but they're cool hey. Um.

548
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: And also, I mean Jordan does the thing about tennis

549
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: shoes because earlier on I mean I remember him on

550
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: the episode he was kind of hating on Clay's white

551
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: shoes on the beach. Ye, I think Jordan is a

552
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: question his fashion. Um, say one thing really quick? Yeah, please?

553
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: I never thought David would say that he was on

554
00:28:54,760 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: team Jordan and Clay. So yeah, I mean, like Jordan

555
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: at this point a friend of mine and you know

556
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: we put the whole thing behind us, and obviously plays

557
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: a good buddy of mine too, So I think we're

558
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, we're water round the bridge at this point.

559
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: That I'd love to hear that you guys are friends.

560
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: You've spent some time David with Clay and Blake in

561
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: Denver here recently. But besides that, there's some pictures out

562
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: there going around about that. What is it about Jordan's

563
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: that is so polarizing but also just makes you angry

564
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: when you're on that beach with him for too long?

565
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: I mean, go back to that time you're friends with

566
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: him now, but go back to the time when you

567
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: wanted to take his pinata and throw it across the beach.

568
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: What is it about Jordan that just irks you? You know,

569
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: I think he's just a very polarizing figure. Um. You know,

570
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: I think he's very strong with his words, and you

571
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: know that could rub people the wrong way for good

572
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: and bad. You know, I think once you get to

573
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: know the guy, you know, you appreciate the you know,

574
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: the quick wits and you know his funny and his

575
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: sense of humor. Um. But initially you know that definitely

576
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: can rub people the wrong way. And you know, for me,

577
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: it's definitely rubbed me the wrong way. Um. You know,

578
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: it kind of came off as definitely a little arrogant

579
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: um and kind of like a know it all um.

580
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: But you know, I feel like people don't know him.

581
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: That's really how he comes off. So um. Once you

582
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: get to know the guy, though, he's just you know,

583
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: he's a Teddy Berry's you know, he's great. He's just

584
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: a funny guy overall. So you know, I feel like

585
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: that's kind of the dynamic that's going on with you know,

586
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: him and Christian in that episode and obviously the physical

587
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: altercation they're about to see the Jordan will continue to

588
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: be a polarizing figure on Paradise. Here's my last question

589
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: for you, David, will we ever see you back on

590
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: that beach? And then the second followups that would are

591
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: we ever going to see Jordan's back on that beach

592
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: if he doesn't make it past this week? Um? For me,

593
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: never say never, but uh, you know, I feel like

594
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm on too greener things and the getting the M

595
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: B A and um, you know, make my way through

596
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: the bit. Let's never say never. I don't. I'm single,

597
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 1: and you know, when we give love a shot anyway

598
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: I can. UM. And you know, as fir as Jordan, guys,

599
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: I think you know he has a I think you'll

600
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: end up seeing him back there at some point, whether

601
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: it's the beach another show, who knows. And I feel

602
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: like this is uh but I feel like this is

603
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: right up his alley. Yeah, hey, sorry, I'll lie to you. Um,

604
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: what would happen on the beach? Do you think if

605
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: they were I mean, we've obviously seen that it's an

606
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: actual fight going on between them. Is there a security

607
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: around that like breaks those up? Do you think they'll

608
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: be fighting for a while, will they will they have

609
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: to go through home. Do you know what happens when

610
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: people actually like physically fight on that beach? Yeah? Yeah,

611
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: So I mean if you remember last year, Um, Leo

612
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: and the Leo altercation at that at the cocktail party

613
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: right before the Roads star Noni, Leo and Joe got

614
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: into it, and you know, there is security, there's there

615
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,239
Speaker 1: are producers around, there's some security, and you know, you

616
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: can't predict what's going to happen. You can't predict the fight,

617
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: but you know you obviously judge if something about the

618
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: blow up, and you know there are people around ready

619
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: to jump in, but um, if they can't get there

620
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: quick enough, you know people are ready to go. Um.

621
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: So we'll see and obviously I would imagine you know,

622
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: any physicalification results in a band in the beach. Um,

623
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: But I guess we'll have to see what happens. We'll

624
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: see what happens. Hey, David thinks a lot for coming on, man,

625
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Best of luck in the continued studies.

626
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: You're the man. That's Devrees Chicken Man joining the podcast.

627
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: Thanks a bud, Thanks man. What an episode, What a

628
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: time to be alive. Paradise is moving and grooving. There's

629
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: fights on the beach. There's relationships blossoming, also relationships ending.

630
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: If you have a quick recap of some of the

631
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: things that we did not talk about, this will happen

632
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: this week. Jordan's and Demi are friends. They have an

633
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: hilarious moment on the beach um making fun of people.

634
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's ever as funny as what

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Speaker 1: I mean it was a little smooth. JPJ has something

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Speaker 1: to be talking behind Kalin's back why Klin pursues a

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Speaker 1: admits it in tears during this week's episode. Hey, it

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Speaker 1: felt like a transition episode. Other than the fight, it

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Speaker 1: felt like a lot of things that will continue to

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Speaker 1: build uh next week as we continue to watch. Finally,

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Speaker 1: we have a reader email or listener email. I think

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Speaker 1: I say that every single time that we want to highlight.

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Speaker 1: It's from Elliott, says Cam and Analiese. What are your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on setting up Analyze and Cam. They both expressed

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Speaker 1: a strong desire for marriage and children. I think they

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Speaker 1: would be a great match. Let me know what you think.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: terrific idea. We've never been successful on almost premost podcast

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Speaker 1: at setting up people. We've tried it with Ashley before,

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Speaker 1: Jared Um, We've tried it with a couple of our listeners.

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Speaker 1: We've never done it successfully, but this feels like something

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Speaker 1: we can make happen. Danielle Easton, can we try to

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Speaker 1: make this happen? Yeah, I'm here for it. I think

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Speaker 1: something Easton, that is something. Um. Hey east and daniel

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining me today. Thanks for filling in for

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Speaker 1: the Ashley um who is on her honeymoon hopefully not

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Speaker 1: thinking about the Almost Famous podcast. I appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, David, thank you for coming on as well.

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Speaker 1: Chicken Man joined us to talk about everything Bachelor in

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Speaker 1: Paradise and also his time studying right now to get

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Speaker 1: his NBA. Hey Eastern, Danielle, follow my lead here with that.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week. I've been been, I've

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Speaker 1: been east and this is the almost Famous podcast. Later

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