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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 1: podcast on The Athletic Network Thursday, February twenty third, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three. I'm J. E. Skeets here in the Classic Factory,

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Speaker 3: I'm not on tonight. Oh geez, Oh, you guys have

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not on tonight either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, me and j D. I'll have a good time.

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Speaker 1: Oh, there you go. What are you up to tonight?

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Speaker 1: What's what's going on?

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Speaker 3: My mom gets in town two and a half hours.

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Speaker 3: Sally also got a kid's presentation at school tonight. Busy night.

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Speaker 1: Jeez, My excuse is I'm going out for dinner, belated

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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day dinner. Yeah, very bulliated at this point, nearly

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Speaker 2: But I've got nothing to do.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, Well, you and JD are gonna be hanging out.

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Speaker 1: You can bring people on stage maybe tonight. Yeah, there

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Speaker 1: As we get ready for the NBA Action to return

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Speaker 1: tonight and watch some of those games live with y'all,

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Speaker 1: we're once again firing up an NBA Reddit podcast task

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Speaker 1: where we look and pull some of our favorite recent

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Speaker 1: NBA Reddit threads and dissect them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll start with some news. The Atlanta Hawks fired

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Speaker 2: head coach Nate McMillan, first reported by ESPN's Adrian wojin rescue.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to drazzleb fourteen twenty four on Reddit for posting this. Now,

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Speaker 2: before we get to the drama, let's kind of take

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Speaker 2: a look back at the Hawk's history here since Nate

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Speaker 2: McMillan took over in twenty twenty one when Lloyd Pierce

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Speaker 2: was fired. They went on that run to the conference finals,

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Speaker 2: Trey bowing in MSG Philadelphia imploding, and then they lost

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Speaker 2: to Milwaukee. Then next year last season, bad season, they

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Speaker 2: the front office. Travis Schlank and others out Landry Fields

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Speaker 2: having some sway with Trey Young, who got into it

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Speaker 2: game that night. And is there more? Yeah, of course

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Speaker 2: there's more. Nate contemplated quitting, according to Sean Shranya of

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Speaker 2: The Athletic, but this new front office said come on back,

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Speaker 2: Do you think for this blow up implosion. This is

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I do think that the main reason

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Speaker 3: of Tred Young. Obviously there was some tension in the

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Speaker 3: And like you're saying, Nate was trying to quit and

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Speaker 3: We'll find a new guy. We'll get Quinn Snyder, which

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Speaker 3: I suppose is interesting for the Hawks. Quinn Snyder, I

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Speaker 3: think is a pretty solid coach. Did a good job

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Speaker 3: the team. So I think something similar could happen with

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Speaker 3: the Hawks. Feature Trey Young but get more out of

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Speaker 3: because somebody has to hold Trey Young accountable. At this point,

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Speaker 3: two coaches in, two coaches out. You've had a rookie

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Speaker 3: out with Trey Young. You've had a super experienced coach

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Speaker 3: and Nate McMillan worked for four months, hasn't worked any

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Speaker 3: other time. But the weight of expectations has really gotten

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Speaker 3: the expectations on Trey Young really changed that very moment,

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Speaker 3: because he has to be at least as good and

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Speaker 3: accomplished as Luka Doncic for it's to makes sense. Clearly

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Speaker 3: he's not on that level yet, so they are chasing

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Speaker 2: It's been disappointing, there's no doubt. Oh god, it's been

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Speaker 2: It feels like a billion years ago when Trey was

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Speaker 2: taking this team to the conference finals. But what's your take

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Speaker 2: since then?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think as far as Nate McMillan's concerned, they

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Speaker 1: got waxed by the Miami Heat last year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: to move off of Nate McMillen after he did rally

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Speaker 1: But after last year a complete disappointment the entire year

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Speaker 1: just get embarrassed. And you remember that series against the

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Speaker 1: new coach. Anyway, we get to this point, Hey, I'm quitting. No,

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Speaker 1: you're not, You're fired. Whatever. Uh, it won't really matter

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Speaker 1: who takes over. You keep saying you, keep saying Quinn

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Speaker 1: getting very close to it. I guess Sean's is saying

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Speaker 1: they're swiftly moving forward with Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Zoom.

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Speaker 1: They had a zoom meeting, Yes.

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Speaker 2: Out of town, right, they did a zoom Yeah, Corn

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Speaker 2: of Scham's it's the formal discussions have begun with Quin Snyder.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it probably will help them in the you know,

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Speaker 1: immediate future, like they'll there'll be a little new coaching

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Speaker 1: bump and maybe they get on board and Quinn Sander

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Speaker 1: is a good coach. But it starts and ends with

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Speaker 1: Trey Young and this franchise is in a pretty bad

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Speaker 1: you've got to bring in players to fill that vacuum.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think the Hawks have done a really

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Speaker 1: an assistant with the Bucks, other names you know that

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Speaker 1: always get thrown around. But it's gonna be Quinn Snyder,

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Speaker 1: like I believe these reports from Sean's and it will

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Speaker 1: Quinn Snyder will be in demand. Great record, you know,

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Speaker 1: some playoff success a long time in Utah, and the

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Speaker 1: don't want to be competing with other teams that are

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Speaker 1: also going to be looking at that guy. So Nate,

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Speaker 1: see you later and we'll and we'll get our try

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Speaker 1: and get our guy in here in Snyder and turn

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Speaker 1: this around. But I think there's gonna be some long

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Speaker 1: and hard conversations about the idea of moving Trey Young

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Speaker 1: and getting players and potentially picks back, because they don't

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Speaker 2: Oh they're trying to, but this is trying to make

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Speaker 2: it work around Trey Young by letting Nate McMillan go,

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Speaker 2: because as you said, they got no picks. What what

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Speaker 2: would they be doing by trading Trey Young. I mean

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Speaker 2: taking steps back and being a mediocre team without much future.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna try and make it work around Trey Young.

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Speaker 2: Good comparison there with the Donovan Mitchell helio centric offense

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Speaker 2: because a couple years ago Yo they went on this

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Speaker 2: guy and I'm sure he was Whether the word is disappointed,

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Speaker 2: just unwilling to make it work. Coming into this season,

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Speaker 2: they've dropped the middle of the pack in the offensive department.

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Speaker 2: And last year they went in up against the Heat

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Speaker 2: just punished Trey Young. They got physical with him, they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you hit on something tasks. I think that

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Moving on another big maneuver that just happened. Russell Westbrook

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Speaker 2: is a Los Angeles Clipper bought out by the Utah

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Speaker 2: that on Reddit. So let's get to the Clipper side

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Speaker 2: of things first, skeets. Are the Clippers making the right

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they've done a lot of stuff here the right move. No,

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Speaker 1: That is now just like it just hangs off of him.

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Speaker 1: It just it's a stink on him now. And I

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Speaker 2: But they have been playing well, and so this is

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Speaker 3: The only good thing about it is that the Clippers

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Speaker 3: The only lineups he'll be successful in are when there's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are, including Paul George and Tyler. I have

431
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Speaker 2: been talking to Russ a lot, seemingly because the Clippers

432
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Speaker 2: have a plan like this. Last few days, everyone has

433
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 2: been asked about him. TYLERU was asked bout them as

434
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Speaker 2: soon as he got picked up. He said, you wait

435
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 2: till Friday to see what we do with him against Sacramento.

436
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 2: Like they know what they're doing with him. I assume

437
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,880
Speaker 2: it's going to be starting. I've questioned, why the heck

438
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 2: would you start when Terrence Man, sort of the figurehead

439
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,160
Speaker 2: point guard in that system, has been playing really, really well.

440
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Speaker 2: But I think what they're gonna do is keep Tenrance

441
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Speaker 2: Man in the starting lineup. I think Marcus Morris's minutes

442
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 2: are going to get eaten a lot. At the four.

443
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a lot of Terrence Man, Westbrook, Kawhi,

444
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Speaker 2: Paul George, and Zubats. I think he's going to start

445
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Speaker 2: with Zubots. There will be a clog in the lane

446
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 2: that there's no doubt teams are going to play off

447
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 2: him like they always do. Is he willing to not shoot? Really?

448
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,159
Speaker 2: Is he willing to be the Rajon Rondo that the

449
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 2: Clippers got a couple of years ago and pass all

450
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Speaker 2: the time? And is Tyler going to be able to

451
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Speaker 2: sort of talk him down or say we sit him

452
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Speaker 2: down at times if he he's not playing well, that's

453
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Speaker 2: the question. It seems like he's coming in here to

454
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Speaker 2: do a lot. But I think because they've been talking

455
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Speaker 2: to him a lot, and because this is really Russ

456
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 2: at the end of his rope here, there weren't a

457
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 2: lot of suitors he did just get released. Maybe you

458
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 2: can think that TYLERU and his experience and his head

459
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Speaker 2: coaching gravitas and the way he's won can have enough

460
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Speaker 2: of an influence to sit him down. The other scary

461
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Speaker 2: part though, is they kind of want a replacement for

462
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Speaker 2: john Wall, even though they got Air Gordon and Bones

463
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Speaker 2: as backup cards. They want a guy who runs, and

464
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 2: john Wall didn't work out with this team, and so

465
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Speaker 2: I just wonder if he's going to be taking Eric

466
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Speaker 2: Gordon's minutes, who's a great backup point guard. But I

467
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 2: think what's gonna end up happening again, He's gonna take

468
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Speaker 2: Marcus Morris's mitt and they're gonna play pretty pretty small.

469
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Speaker 2: They just have a lot of moving parts now with

470
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Speaker 2: Eric Gordon, Bones, and I even mentioned Norman Powell, who's

471
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Speaker 2: got to shoot a lot. The guy is a ball.

472
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Speaker 2: He needs to shoot a ton. So if the only

473
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Speaker 2: way it's gonna work is if Russell Westbrook comes in

474
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Speaker 2: and plays like twenty minutes a game, he kind of

475
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Speaker 2: has to be like us starting first quarter and third quarter,

476
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Speaker 2: guy like you see with like a you know, an

477
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Speaker 2: old center, like a JaVale McGee, and he sits down,

478
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Speaker 2: he doesn't play again. I think it could work because

479
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 2: they're a slow starting team. He could get in there

480
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Speaker 2: and and light the pace on fire to start games

481
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Speaker 2: and push it. But then he's got to sit down,

482
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Speaker 2: and I just it's hard to see Westbrook in that role.

483
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Speaker 2: He's not changing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he's not changing very clear the screens.

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Speaker 3: What if he starts setting screens at the top and rolling,

486
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Speaker 3: if he starts shutting the back door.

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Speaker 1: He's not. He's not gonna change. So you know what

488
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Speaker 1: you're getting into bed with.

489
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Speaker 2: That's him.

490
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Speaker 1: It works sometimes, it'll bet you in the ass sometimes,

491
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Speaker 1: but he's not changing. There will be no off ball,

492
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Speaker 1: there'll be no setting screens, there'll be no he's not

493
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Speaker 1: gonna finally find a three point shot. He's not gonna

494
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Speaker 1: tone down his shots, you know. And when when he's

495
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Speaker 1: like you know, because they give him room, he's gonna

496
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Speaker 1: have a chance to like go glass off the backboard,

497
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Speaker 1: which he always likes to. He ain't gonna change, and

498
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Speaker 1: that's that's fine, But I just don't want.

499
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Speaker 2: To hear that scary partis needs He needs the ball

500
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Speaker 2: in his hands, and the other guys that he's gonna

501
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Speaker 2: be playing with, most likely Paul Jeordan, Ui Letter and

502
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 2: there starting to lot up. Need to shoot, So you

503
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Speaker 2: got George be willing to pass the ball.

504
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Speaker 1: In his hands a lot, and guy, he's basically their

505
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Speaker 1: point guard a lot of the time.

506
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they do. That's what those guys do.

507
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: Terrence Mann will be fine, but those other guys need

508
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 2: need the ball in their hands as well. That's why

509
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 2: they put them on the bench with La because Lebron's

510
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Speaker 2: the point guard. So now now this is a yeah,

511
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Speaker 2: this is not easy. It's not it's not gonna be

512
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Speaker 2: easy to work out. And yeah, can you could literally

513
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: just say, uh, if you're Tyler and this isn't working,

514
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Speaker 2: you should be able to say, Russ, sit, we will

515
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Speaker 2: be fine without you because of what we have. I mean,

516
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Speaker 2: they have been playing well. They're the fourth seed in

517
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Speaker 2: the West. Does TYLERU have that kind of power? Will

518
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Speaker 2: he be able to just say sit, sir? Or when

519
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Speaker 2: he shoots too much, will he say sits er like

520
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Speaker 2: he did to John Wall and they released him. I

521
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Speaker 2: don't know. This seems more like a bit of more

522
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Speaker 2: like an emotional move, like let's get Russ's championship ring and.

523
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Speaker 1: Let's help him out. He doesn't have to move think

524
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Speaker 1: of that.

525
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's tough.

526
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Speaker 1: Everybody hates moving. He's still in LA. It's great.

527
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't have to move, but he does have

528
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Speaker 3: to move his stuff from one locker.

529
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Speaker 1: Room to the end. He'll get somebody to do that

530
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Speaker 1: for him. But moving the whole house packing out of Oh,

531
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Speaker 1: where am I going? I'm going back to Washington. Oh.

532
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Speaker 1: I didn't keep my place there. They did him a

533
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Speaker 1: favor here. He's still in LA. This is a weird

534
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Speaker 1: note too. Since the Clippers moved from San Diego in

535
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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four, only one former MVP has ever played

536
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Speaker 1: for them since the Clippers, since the Clippers moved Bill

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Speaker 1: from San Dieo, Bill Walton. That's right, eight four five.

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Speaker 2: There was that on Reddit.

539
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Speaker 1: No, I don't believe so it may have been from

540
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Speaker 1: the Athletic.

541
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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I was gonna say on Reddit. If you're

542
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Speaker 2: a Westbrook fan, mit, Westbrook is is a fun follow.

543
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 2: He just he just loved He just plays. He plays

544
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Speaker 2: the game. He plays the Westbrook stand game very very well.

545
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: All right, next topic here another point guard in a

546
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Speaker 2: new situation. Patrick Beverly is on the ball. He was

547
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: waived by Orlando and also on his podcast, he does

548
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: him talking on his podcast Surprise surprise. Yeah, he chose

549
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 2: the Bulls in part because the East is weak. Uh huh.

550
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 2: That's from a Nocchaw underscore on Reddit. So Trey thoughts

551
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 2: on BEV with the Bulls and what the heck is

552
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: he talking about.

553
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 3: I think John Greenberg nailed it on The Athletic he said,

554
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: at the very least, the Bulls now have a player

555
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 3: podcaster who gets aggregated a lot. They're part of the zeitgeist.

556
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: This is big for the Bulls. Honestly, Beverly might start

557
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 3: for this team. Sure, he basically has to outplay Io

558
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 3: desumu iOS like a thirty two three point shooter. Beverly's

559
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: only at thirty five percent this year. He shot better

560
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 3: in the past. But I mean league average helps the Bulls.

561
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Speaker 3: The East is week. It's a funny way to frame this.

562
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 3: I do think the two best teams are in the

563
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: Eastern Conference, but that's not really the Bulls concern right now.

564
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Speaker 3: So I think Westbrook is better for a play run

565
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 3: for the Bulls than he would be for a potential

566
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Speaker 3: championship run with the team like the Warriors, even though

567
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 3: they're kind of in the same position right now, they

568
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: have different goals. We remember Beverly celebrating the play in

569
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: championship with the Timberwolves last year. That's exactly what the

570
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 3: Bulls are looking for, right But at reeks of Tristan

571
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 3: Thompson last season, the Bulls needed a spark, They needed

572
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 3: a veteran to come in and yell at people, get

573
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Speaker 3: them fired up to play. Unfortunately, Tristan Thompson was completely washed,

574
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 3: so nobody cared what he had to say. Will the

575
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Speaker 3: same be the true be true for Beverly, we shall see.

576
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 3: Seems to have a little bit more respect around the league,

577
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Speaker 3: probably more respect in the locker room in the average

578
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 3: thirty seven a game his senior year in high school

579
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 3: in Illinois, So maybe a little magic. He said, I

580
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 3: don't even know what I'm gonna pull out now that

581
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Speaker 3: I'm back home, We'll see.

582
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, helped pull out too much, man, not you guys

583
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: brought it up. What he meant to say here was

584
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Speaker 1: he chose the Bulls in part because the Eastern Conference

585
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: play in picture is weak, Yes, compared to the West.

586
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Speaker 1: That's what he and that's fine, and you know he

587
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: wants to be a playing champion. Go get it. Help

588
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: the Bulls try and get in there. Because I think

589
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: there are When you look at the playing teams in

590
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: the West, it's your defending champion Warriors. It's even his

591
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: previous team in the Wolves. It's the thunderest, scrappy, young

592
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: bunch compared to some of these teams in the East.

593
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Speaker 1: That's like the Hawks, the Wizards, the Bulls, the Raptors,

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00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: I mean, all fairly disappointing so far this season, teams

595
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: that you're not inspired by. So he likes his chances

596
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: to go home. Get the Bulls in the play in,

597
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: have a big game and he might help. But here's

598
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: the weird part. With the Bulls getting Beverly, you immediately think,

599
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: all right, that's what they need. The Bulls need some defense.

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Speaker 1: They need a scrappy defensive guy to get at it

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Speaker 1: on that end.

602
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: Do they?

603
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: Though? The ironic part about the Bulls is their defense

604
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: is good. Their offense blows. That's the strange part of

605
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: this season. They're top ten defensively in the league this year.

606
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: They're the best defense over the last fifteen games. The

607
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: Bulls are, so it's sort of weird. Maybe it's because

608
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: they blew those big leads and it's just like it's

609
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Speaker 1: I thought, in looking at the numbers like that can't

610
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: be right. But it's offensively really struggle. And that's where

611
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: it's like Patrick Beverley is going to help you on offense. Well,

612
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: it's also not, but I like the identity. At least

613
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: he might fire this team up.

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00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it's for. It's for vibes. These guys

615
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: have been sad bros. I mean, it's not necessarily to

616
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 2: take over on either end. It's just to talk. It's

617
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 2: just to bring them together. It's yeah, it's like, you

618
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 2: guys want to be on my pod today, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just to be. It's just to be

620
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Speaker 2: that guy who's kind of the glue. We know. That's

621
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Speaker 2: not Levine's thing. It's not Tomor's thing, it's not Fuca's thing.

622
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: Apparently at his first practice he was telling.

623
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Speaker 3: Me, why would you want your all stars to lead?

624
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

625
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know they don't have that, and that's why

626
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 2: they're not a championship team. There's no doubt. But apparently

627
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: at the first practice, Bev kept telling Zach Lavine, shoot,

628
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: keep shooting. You're not here to pass the ball, my man,

629
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Speaker 2: And so I guess that's a good sign. And that

630
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: like there might just be a glue guy there to

631
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: help out to get to this place tournament. Although what

632
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: he was saying when he said the East this week

633
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: is also that he chose the Bulls over the Warriors,

634
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: right right, in part, did the Warriors want him? According

635
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: to Patrick Beverly in his podcast, The Aggregation has Begun,

636
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: It's totally true. So the Bulls don't want to tank,

637
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: that's for sure. They want to get in that play

638
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: in tournament, and he could.

639
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: He's going to get a chance. Tray said it. I

640
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: mean he could play start for the Bulls and then

641
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, it sort of goes hand in hand. Not

642
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: that he was going to probably play anyway, But we

643
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: did learn that the Bulls shut down Lonzo Ball for

644
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Speaker 1: the remainder of the season as he continues to deal

645
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Speaker 1: with discomfort and his knee. So it's not like he's

646
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Speaker 1: coming back anytime soon. Did that? Was that a part

647
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: of the equation here in Beverly choosing the Bulls maybe

648
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: a very small part just because of the opportunity, but

649
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Speaker 1: he I think he is going to help. I mean

650
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: bad news for Raptors fans. I feel like over the

651
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: last couple of days here, the Hawks fire their coach. Oh, oh,

652
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: that's not good. They usually are great after they fire

653
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Speaker 1: a coach. So the Raptors are trying to chase the Hawks. Yeah,

654
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: I got Patrick Beverly coming in trying to light a

655
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Speaker 1: spark under the asses of the Chicago Bulls, a team

656
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Speaker 1: that the Raptors are trying to battle here too. So

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Speaker 1: that's how disappointing this year.

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Speaker 3: He's right that the East is weak.

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, Beverly. Let's see what impact he has on

660
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Speaker 1: the bowl. Let's take our first break. I don't know

661
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Speaker 1: if we're gonna try and figure out this light or not,

662
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: because some people are saying the mood is sort of

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Speaker 1: cool in here.

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Speaker 3: Now we actually look great, it does?

665
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Speaker 1: We look great in.

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Speaker 3: The dark.

667
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Speaker 1: Tonight. Yeah that's right. Oh yeah it is very dark.

668
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Speaker 1: But anyway, we'll be right back with more NBA Reddit threads.

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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, big news. The light is back for now.

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Speaker 1: Good call. JD. Box is overheating. It's too hot in

671
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Speaker 1: the Classic Factory, too hot in Atlanta suddenly.

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Speaker 2: But but JD replaced the box before the show?

673
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Speaker 1: Is it the cable is the box? People? The takes

674
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Speaker 1: are too hot?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it the take are that's.

676
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Speaker 1: What happens takes, It's what happens on an NBA reddit,

677
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Speaker 1: No dunks pod.

678
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the next one. With Nate

679
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Speaker 2: McMillan out kings of games nine to seven to two.

680
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: Asks which coach is most likely to be fired this offseason.

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Speaker 2: Let's look at it as the next one to go,

682
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Speaker 2: because I know you got some odds from our friend

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Shapiro.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, these are the bet online odds for

685
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Speaker 1: the next NBA head coach fired. I tweeted it out yesterday.

686
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Speaker 1: Steven Silas with the Rockets odds on favorite to be

687
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Speaker 1: the next head coach fired minus one twenty five. Then

688
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Speaker 1: you got Dwayne Casey with the Pistons plus two to fifty.

689
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Speaker 1: Then you got your boy, Billy Donnovan with the Bulls

690
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Speaker 1: despite that incredible defense at plus five hundred.

691
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Speaker 3: He signed an extension last summer.

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Speaker 1: That one. You're right. Then you got Steve Clifford with

693
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Speaker 1: the Hornets, also plus five hundred. We got Chauncey Billups

694
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Speaker 1: with the Blazers plus one thousand, and Nick Nurse with

695
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Speaker 1: the Raptors at plus twenty two hundred. Again, those are

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Speaker 1: the bet online odds for the next head coach to

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Speaker 1: be fired. You uh, you made a bit of a

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Speaker 1: face when I said the first guy there in Silas

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Speaker 1: with the Rockets ego, you think he's most likely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they are gonna be the worst team in the

701
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Speaker 3: league for three straight seasons. Even when you're tanking, you

702
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Speaker 3: don't want to be the worst team in the league

703
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball, basically for three straight years.

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Speaker 3: Think about the process Sixers. Even when they were going

705
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Speaker 3: through their worst teams, they were like top fifteen ish

706
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Speaker 3: in defense, right like they had something going on. It

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Speaker 3: feels like the Rockets have zero plan and there was

708
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Speaker 3: just a lot of infighting in the locker room. It

709
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Speaker 3: felt like this year they're not cohesive at all. They're

710
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Speaker 3: gonna want to turn a corner eventually. There's been rumors

711
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: that James Harden may return. Time will tell on that one,

712
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: but clearly they're gonna want to start their upward trajectory eventually.

713
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Speaker 3: Or they could just keep Steven Silas cuz their pick

714
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Speaker 3: is they have two picks protected, twenty four and twenty

715
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Speaker 3: six both go into OKC and they're top four protected,

716
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Speaker 3: So maybe they do want to be the worst team

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Speaker 3: in the league for the next three seasons as well.

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Speaker 2: Probably not, though, Yeah, I think Silas would be the

719
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Speaker 2: hot one to go. I think after also weekend and

720
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: chatting around, I think Nick Nurse is a possibility of

721
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: potentially going as well, and most likely in the off season.

722
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Speaker 2: But I think there's no chance that Billy Donovan has moved.

723
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: He just signed an extension this past summer, like Nate McMillan,

724
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Speaker 2: who signed one the previous summer. Nate McMillan still has

725
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: just a year plus on his deal. Billy's got too much,

726
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: too much, and they're not gonna be paying coaches multiple coaches.

727
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Speaker 2: And I don't like the Dwayne firing possibility. Dwine Casey,

728
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Speaker 2: I don't think he's going unless this is a different

729
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Speaker 2: Dwayne because Dwayne is spelled differently. Dwayne Casey's got the

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Speaker 2: d w an e rare spelling. I love that spelling.

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Speaker 2: There's a y in this one. Anyway, He's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't see the point there.

733
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Pistons have been not that this matters half

734
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: the time, but they've been pretty supportive of Casey publicly.

735
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Speaker 1: They've given no indication that they're gonna part ways with

736
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Speaker 1: them this season or maybe even in the off season.

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Speaker 1: I do wonder how does this bet work if Casey

738
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Speaker 1: has just moved to like a front office role and

739
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: a new coach takes over. Like he's not like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you're out of here, get out of the organization. Fired,

741
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: but it's like, we're slipping you into another role.

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Speaker 2: What does that get?

743
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: They happen, you get paid. Okay, good to know. It's

744
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: silas though they've lost seven straight heading into the All

745
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: Star Break, they've won four times since Christmas.

746
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Speaker 3: I saw one. Four.

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00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd beat the Bulls. They have the worst record

748
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: in the league, thirteen and forty five. They ranked dead

749
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: last in offense. They're twenty eighth in defense. And that's

750
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: the issue. Last season twenty sixth in offense, twenty ninth

751
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: in defense. Season before that, twenty seventh on offense, twenty

752
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: seventh on defense. It's been very, very bad for three

753
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Speaker 1: years running. And look, it's not like he has a

754
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: great team. This isn't all Stilas's fault, but you do

755
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: want to see some progress on one side of the

756
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: ball would help. It'd be tough for him, I think

757
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 1: to be coaching at the start of next season, though

758
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: then again, they have a cheapskate owner. I don't know

759
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Speaker 1: what his actual deal is. I can't imagine he's an

760
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: expiring deal. He probably has a year or two left.

761
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: So maybe Tilman doesn't want to pay two coaches. There

762
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: is that possibility. But yeah, you're right talking to a

763
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: lot of Raptors people plugged in. Nurse may not belong

764
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: with the Toronto Raptors organization. There is that. I don't

765
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Speaker 1: think he'll be the next one, but I wouldn't be

766
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: shocked if the UH they ultimately move off him in

767
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Speaker 1: the off season.

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Speaker 2: Don't gamble, but good odds if you're if you're looking

769
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Speaker 2: at that. The Silas thing is interesting because it felt

770
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Speaker 2: like the Rockets played hard last season. I felt like

771
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: they had a good defense to some degree, you know,

772
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Speaker 2: like they're overachieving like the OKC thunder did, but they

773
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Speaker 2: didn't know. And they also need some vets in the

774
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Speaker 2: locker room. I mean, Dwayne Casey's got an excuse. Kate

775
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 2: Cunningham is out, so that bites him time. I think

776
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 2: the Rockets are healthy, UH and their locker room stinks,

777
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: so that's the problem. Steven Stileas hasn't been able to

778
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: rally guys. Is it a case of not having a

779
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: vet in that locker room anymore? They're by far the

780
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Speaker 2: youngest team in the league. They're extremely young.

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00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: Are they the youngest thunder over the youngest? I mean

782
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: the changed Oh Eric Gordon maybe?

783
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

784
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Speaker 1: Mo yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: My favorite comment was from user certain Cranberry seventy seven.

787
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Speaker 1: He picked he or she picked Clifford again, though then

788
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: he gets three hired days before training camp, So keep

789
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: an eye out on that one. Steve Clifford with the

790
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: Hornets will fire him and then they'll just re hire

791
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: them again because they're like, nobody else wants to co chair.

792
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: You do it, Steve, Steve Rivers not on the odds?

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Speaker 2: Ooh not not what I saw?

794
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Speaker 1: No, interesting, you're you're you would you would get to

795
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: that with a very disappointing first round loss or something

796
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: like that, like second round.

797
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: Shouldn't the goal be at least conference finals, if not

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Speaker 3: the finals the Philadelphia seventy six ers, Yeah, I mean,

799
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Speaker 3: if they lose in the first round, see you later. Uh.

800
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Speaker 3: But I mean they don't want to finish fourth in

801
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference, right, Yeah, So I mean I think

802
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 3: he's got to be in the mix, though. Doc does

803
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: a good job of hanging around for any time, right.

804
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 2: And I'm sure we'll get to Kelly Eco's report that

805
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: James Harden has a seventy percent chance of going back

806
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 2: to the Rockets next seas. That's so hot. Maybe Kelly Eko, hey,

807
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: we've been there before. Was just on TV, just something

808
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: came out of his mouth. But seventy person, we got

809
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: to get echo on the horn. We got to talk

810
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: about that's a high percentage because he is able to

811
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: move in the offseason if he wants to go to

812
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: whatever team he wants, But to go back to the Rockets,

813
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 2: that would be a shocker. I do like the idea, though,

814
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: of Kenny Atkinson getting one of these jobs, because that

815
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: would mean if Quinn Snyder is also hired, that that

816
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen coaching tree, that thirteen fourteen coach. Let's bring

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00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: back that photo. Let's there, it is all five of

818
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: these gus.

819
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Speaker 1: We keep showing this.

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Speaker 3: The picture was taken so long ago, there was three

821
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Speaker 3: pixels on the camera.

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00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: Why do we keep showing this because it's the perfect

823
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: mirror of this show. Four white guys and a black guy.

824
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Speaker 1: This secial, you're Darvin.

825
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 2: My man, this is our studio. Who h's let's go

826
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: the ash can be Darmond hand.

827
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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course who's Who's everybody else?

828
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: JD has got to be Bud. You are, it's the

829
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: Bud coaching. He does have a beard now too, your

830
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: but your butt tree is blooming.

831
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Speaker 1: JDS got to be Quinn right with the locks sort

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Speaker 1: of the curls nice.

833
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Speaker 2: Sure.

834
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: So then then you're either you're Kenny or I'm Kenny.

835
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Speaker 1: You're Key, I'm Kenny, You're Kenny, You're Kenny.

836
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Speaker 2: I mean it's not a perfect mirror, but whatever, whatever,

837
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Speaker 2: I'll be Taylor, Jane, you're tailing all right? There you

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Speaker 2: go cool?

839
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Speaker 1: There it is, well, somebody get to photoshopping that.

840
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: He goes, Yeah, the pop tree is dead, the bud

841
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Speaker 2: tree is allowed.

842
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 1: Is spring?

843
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: We're buddy, all right? Next topic, Kevin Love is on

844
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Speaker 2: the Miami Heat. He got Bud by the Cleveland Cavaliers,

845
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: and uh, it's it's odd, isn't it?

846
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: A little bit? I was shocked.

847
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently Donovan Mitchell, his teammate, was shocked. But anyways.

848
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: An interesting tidbit from Tower Owl nineteen thirty nine. On Reddit,

849
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: the Calves have announced they are planning to retire Love's

850
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: number zero. That's interesting they announced it. Kobe Altman Calves

851
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: GM said he's joining Bingo Smith, Dreunis, Elgaskis, Larry Nance,

852
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: the original Mark Price, Austin Carr, Nate Thurmott, Brad Dharty,

853
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: and Bill Russell, and of course Lebron will sometimes join

854
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: in the future. No Irving on that list anyway. Trey

855
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: thoughts on the number retirement and Kevin Loves fit with

856
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: the Miami Heat going forward well, I mean, if.

857
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 3: Bingo Smith's number is hanging from the rafters, I think

858
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 3: Kevin Loves has to as well. I was surprised to

859
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: see looking at his stats for the Calves ninth all

860
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 3: time in points, YEP, second and three. Is obviously a champion,

861
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: made two All Star Games with Cleveland, went to the

862
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 3: finals four times. Sure, they don't have a huge lung

863
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 3: history of the Cleveland Cavaliers. A lot of their players

864
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 3: who have retired jerseys are not Hall of famers. Kevin

865
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: Love will be an interesting case when the time comes up,

866
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: but I think he certainly earned it his time in Cleveland,

867
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 3: especially sticking around through the lean years. And I kind

868
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: of feel like from the reporting that Cleveland and Kevin

869
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: Love kind of agreed on this. In Cleveland wanted to

870
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: do the right thing by him, give him a chance

871
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 3: to actually play. He might get a chance to start

872
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 3: with the heat. We shall see, but pretty nice. And

873
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 3: I don't know. I still don't really get why the

874
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 3: Cavs did this. But Kevin Love broke his thumb earlier

875
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 3: this year hasn't been able to shoot since, so maybe

876
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: they are able to fix it down in Miami with

877
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 3: some illegal stuff. Yeah what they do in Miami, man,

878
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. Remember when Lebron went for two weeks, Remember,

879
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: like that's where all the Balco stuff was was all

880
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 3: in Miami. They got weird things going on there. But

881
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: people get healthier.

882
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: A thumb helper, yeah, interesting. Yeah, he's been shooting poorly,

883
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: but he's gonna have every opportunity to shoot with the

884
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: I think whether he starts or comes off the bench.

885
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 2: They need help off the bench too. They need capable bodies.

886
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 2: And the Cavs decided kind of surprisingly that Jared Allen

887
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: and m Mobile are gonna play a ton in the

888
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: front court. It kind of went with Dean Wade as

889
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: sort of a backup. They just they have a lot

890
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 2: of guys off the bench. They have a lot of

891
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 2: bodies off the bench, and they now have longest tenured

892
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 2: calve Jeddi Osmin's got to play too, So yeah, he's

893
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: now that's him. Yeah, he's taken over that since Kevin's

894
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: gone on. It is a little surprising that they just

895
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: wantn't keep him around for for ViBe's sake, but he

896
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: wants to play.

897
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: But that's part of the equation. I think. I think

898
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: they're getting rid of him for five sake because he

899
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: was DNPCDS and he was not happy with it, sure

900
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: because you said Dean Wade had come back from his

901
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: own injury and those minutes were going to him and

902
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: he wasn't playing love So he was like, I'm sure

903
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: he would put up with it, maybe put on a

904
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: happy face for a week or so, and then he's like,

905
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: well what's going on here and talks to bicker Staff

906
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: and I'm like, we're not probably gonna be playing it man,

907
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: like maybe break last in case of emergency. But you know,

908
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: they say that they like they did this whole thing,

909
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: like the idea of like bigger Staff even quoted saying,

910
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: we're giving Kevin an opportunity to go somewhere where he

911
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: can compete and he can play, and he can play.

912
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: That was we're right by him. I think this organization

913
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 1: does a great job of taking care of the people

914
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: who have taken care of it. So like they're saying,

915
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: we're doing him a favor because there's no role here

916
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: for him. But the ironic part is like, ugh, but

917
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: you're letting him go to an Eastern Conference team, Like

918
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: I guess there could be a hypothetical where these teams

919
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: meet in a playoff series and it's like Kevin Love's

920
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: like hitting three threes on them in a quarter, Like

921
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: that would be tough, but you did right by him.

922
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: It's like that's a that's a tough one to swallow

923
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: if that happens. I mean, it's pretty far fetch, but yeah,

924
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: he just Kevin Love. His whole thing coming off the

925
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: bench as a big man was like shoot threes, shoot

926
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: him at a decent clip. And he wasn't, especially since

927
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: that the thumb injury there in like mid November, he

928
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: was bad. Like he was shooting thirty percent and three pointers.

929
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: He was eleven of forty eight from deep balls. In

930
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: January alone, like it got worse and worse and worse,

931
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: and he doesn't give you much on the defense, and

932
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: then he's out there to shoot threes and if you

933
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: can't do that, and then they're like, well, we're not

934
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: gonna play them. They've been better with them off the floor.

935
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: That's that's what the stats say. But I thought they

936
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: would keep them around.

937
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought they keep around, but their bench didn't

938
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: want to. The bench is deep. You got austmin, you

939
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 2: got LeVert, you got Wade, you got Ricky Rubio, and

940
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: I forgot no big guys Danny and Danny Green. Now

941
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 2: I think they're just gonna play a lot of Mobile

942
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: and Allen, so there's not a lot of minutes to

943
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: go around. But yeah, Dean Wade's only two guys.

944
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what happens is when someone you know gets

945
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: in foul trouble in a playoffs HEREI or something like that.

946
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: That's why that's why we were thinking Love will still

947
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 1: be there and maybe still has a role. Terry Pluto

948
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: of Cleveland dot Com reported too that from a financial viewpoint,

949
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: Love took seven million of the eight point five million

950
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: he was owed, so the Calves kept one point five million,

951
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: so there is some savings there. And then Love signed

952
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 1: with the Heat for three point one million. Kevin Love

953
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: just ended up making an extra one point six million

954
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: this year, never.

955
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: Going to side with the Heat. Incredible Scot Afford all

956
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: those Balco payments, that's right, the.

957
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 3: Cream and the Clear. Now he has no taxes to pay?

958
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: Is that too? Jeez?

959
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: Smart as women. And he's on a better team, perhaps

960
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 3: perhaps better.

961
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: Oh boy, oh boy.

962
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 3: I mean the Heat have a lot more playoff bona

963
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 3: five Yeah, Clay with Cavaliers.

964
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're desperate, they're yeah, they're shooting their twenty

965
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: eighth and three point percentage this season, so they need help.

966
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah so, and Kevin Love just hasn't done that, but

967
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 2: they could use that help. There's no doubt. And I

968
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: would say with Cleveland, like Mobley is going to be

969
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: their backup five, They're just gonna play those two guys.

970
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: But it is it is odd. I mean, he yeah,

971
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: maybe they just know something about his stump as well.

972
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: As for the intentions to retire his number zero in Cleveland,

973
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: that's a no brainer. Trey already ran through all his

974
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: accolades there. He's been there for a long time. Sort

975
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: of weird, like this will only be Kevin Love thirteen

976
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 1: in the NBA, like obviously the Wolves longtime in Cleveland,

977
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: now Miami. But when you go to the old basketball

978
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: reference page and it shows you, like I believe it's

979
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: ranked by wind shares, but like the best players in

980
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 1: a franchise history, you know it's Lebron, It's Mark Price,

981
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: Matt Brad Daugherty, big Z, hot Rod Williams always a

982
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: great name, Larry Nance, and then Kevin Love.

983
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's I got one Alzheimer.

984
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's like, it's not a shock that they

985
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: would consider doing that, and rightfully so with what he's

986
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 1: given to that organization.

987
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 2: The interesting question is do they retire Kyrie Irving's number

988
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 2: down the road six years one championship?

989
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: Yes, they will.

990
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: They probably will, absolutely will.

991
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 2: Can't wait to find that from now. Also, this note

992
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: here from Strawberry space Jam on Reddit, love means zero

993
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: in tennis. That's a great point, very very good point. Okay,

994
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: next topic, This one's for you, Skeets. The Wizards are

995
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: nineteen and ten with Delon Wright and nine and twenty

996
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: without him. I probably should have double checked that stat

997
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 2: from Turbo two x on Reddit. But I buy it. Yep,

998
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: I buy it? Is that stat correct?

999
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: You said this is for me because I was law

1000
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: on Right early in the season. I had to double

1001
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: check that I didn't write this Reddit thread because I

1002
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: was very early in the season saying mandlaw Right. He's

1003
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: super important to the Wizards winning games, and he went

1004
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: down with an injury and they fell apart. He's come back,

1005
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: They've been, you know, better with him. He does not

1006
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: fill up a box score, but he like gets the deflections,

1007
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: he gets the steals. He seems to be one of

1008
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: those strange, solid glue guys. And this isn't the first

1009
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: time he's done it. Dawn Right has played really well

1010
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: in a lot of spots in this league. Again, not

1011
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 1: a superstar by any means, but man, as a seventh

1012
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: eighth type of guy off your bench, you can do

1013
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: a lot worse. So that's pretty impressive but not surprising

1014
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: to me because I was telling you this like four

1015
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: weeks into the season.

1016
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: I was sounds like he's the MVP, because that.

1017
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: Sounds like he's what was the word I used for

1018
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: no promising. He's promising. I like Delon Wright as a

1019
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: as a backup guard, in this league, and he's carved

1020
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: out a great role and he just he defensively ramps

1021
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: everything up and that can lead to easy offense for teams.

1022
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: It is true. Just check the stats nineteen and ten

1023
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: with them, nine and twenty without Oh well, she got

1024
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: to play. I checked some.

1025
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: Stats found out the Wizards are twenty and sixteen with

1026
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: Bradley Beal eight and fourteen without Bradley Beal. I wonder

1027
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 3: if he has a little bit more of an effect

1028
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 3: on this than Delanne Wright, just saying correlation does not

1029
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: eatqual causation. That being said, he's a lynchpin guy, and

1030
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 3: I think there are several of those around the league

1031
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 3: where you're not the best player on your team, but

1032
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: you are key to winning. Maxi kleiba is one, Steven Adams,

1033
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 3: Huge one, Clint Capella, Kyle Anderson, and of course the

1034
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 3: dearly departed Lonzo Ball.

1035
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: Yeah right, alrightp yeah, Delan right, throw him in the mix. Well,

1036
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 1: that sounds like a fun sickle list. Just made it, damn,

1037
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 1: But let's make ten more.

1038
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: No, this is a good list.

1039
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: No, we gotta make ten more because we got to

1040
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: name a bunch of people. That's the only point of

1041
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: lists that one. Yeah, Dylan, Right, I told you three

1042
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,959
Speaker 1: weeks into the season, I made the list. I started

1043
00:47:59,000 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: the list with Delan.

1044
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 2: Right, I love you said, Bradley Beal's record could be

1045
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: a bit more of a causation. His appearances could be

1046
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: a bit more of a causation. We talked about briefly

1047
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard's rap song before the show here before we

1048
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: got on air. There's a line in it, shooters in

1049
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: the locker room like we the Wizards. I read that,

1050
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: and I said, does that mean that Bradley Beal isn't playing?

1051
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: Like?

1052
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 2: Is that? Is that a knock on Bradley Beal's availability?

1053
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: But hold on, you thought about it some more. Hold

1054
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: on you thought about it.

1055
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: Say the line again, shooters in the locker room like

1056
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 2: we the Wizards.

1057
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 1: Okay, who really dissect that line?

1058
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: Just say it? You don't have to. Just what is it?

1059
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: I wanted you to get there, Okay, what is it?

1060
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: Go go way back, not current Wizards, not the recent Wizards,

1061
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: go way back.

1062
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 3: In the news quite a bit though. He has clips

1063
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 3: on Twitter all the time.

1064
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: Age and zero shooter murders. Yeah, shooters, guns in the

1065
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 1: locker room.

1066
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 2: Jarvis, Yeah, thank you, yeah, okay, So now is it

1067
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: a better line? I guess.

1068
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: It's not bad. It's a pretty good line. They were

1069
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: stuck on an airplane, the Blazers were for seven hours,

1070
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: so Damian Leonard's like, I'm gonna write a rap song

1071
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Speaker 1: wrote it, and then they made like a little not

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00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: a music video by any means, but a one shot

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00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: music video with all the guys hanging out in the background.

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Speaker 1: It's not bad. And that's one of the lines. I

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00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: wonder what Agent Zero thinks of it.

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Speaker 3: You think Damian Lillard should start going by the nickname

1077
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:33,959
Speaker 3: Agent Zero, just completely stealing's personality. Is there a level

1078
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 3: up Agent? I'm trying to like special Agent especially.

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Speaker 1: I like it. You should run with that, or at

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00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: least put it in a rap song. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: hear who else would go on that list that TK

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00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: just fired at us of like those Lynchpin guys. That's

1083
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: a good way to put it. Like, when they're out there,

1084
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: your team is just much much better, even if they're

1085
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: not a superstar. Let us know in the stream, team,

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00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: let us know in the comments. One more break and

1087
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: when we come back, a very interesting video to show everybody.

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Speaker 1: By way of NBA Reddit, don't go anywhere, all right,

1089
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: back in the Class factory before we get to our

1090
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: Pickham game tonight. And then one more NBA Reddit thread,

1091
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: a question for the bio boys. Which bio guy that's

1092
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: joined a new team is going to make or have

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00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: the biggest impact on their team winning games?

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00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 3: Here?

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00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: Is it Beverly with the Bulls? Is it Love with

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Speaker 1: the Heat? Is it Westbrook with the Clippers? Is it

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Speaker 1: Terrence Ross with the Suns? Is it Reggie Jackson with

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Speaker 1: the Nuggets? Is it someone else? I've think Reggie Jackson.

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Speaker 2: They need depth. He's won in the playoffs. They need

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Speaker 2: a backup guard. They traded Bones Island. It's gonna help.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Reggie, you got anyone else?

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Speaker 3: I would probably lean Reggie, followed by Kevin Love and

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Speaker 3: Patrick Beverly. I can already picture Beverly standing on a

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Speaker 3: table in the United Center. Now they won't be hosting

1105
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 3: a game, but it will be after the season. They

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00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 3: let him get a nice stand in.

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Speaker 1: I guess I could have thrown at Danny Green with

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00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: the Cavaliers and wait, was he was he a biot? Yeah?

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00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah he was?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?

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00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Who else am I forgetting biot boys? Let me know,

1113
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: and who do you think is gonna have the biggest impact,

1114
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: even though we all know none of them will. Just kidding,

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00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 1: all right, tonight's pick them. It's Denver Nuggets Cleveland Cavaliers.

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00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: That game we're gonna be watching on playback pass. What's

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00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: the line on this one?

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00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nine games tonight. There's a TNT doubleheader out there.

1119
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 2: Grizz seventy six ers will bounce around. If you're watching

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Speaker 2: with us, then you got the Warriors Lakers a little

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00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: later on. But I want to see the big battle

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00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 2: Jokic versus Jared Allen in Cleveland. A couple of us

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00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 2: think Cleveland will take care of business, myself in skeets,

1124
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 2: while Trey thinks Jokish'll get it done on the road.

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Speaker 2: Denver did win earlier this season. Win Cleveland went into

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00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 2: the altitude, but they're in Cleveland.

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00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: What's the altitude of Cleveland? Where does it sit at

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00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: the sea level? Somebody look it up. I might have

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Speaker 1: to change my pick.

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Speaker 3: A six fifty three feet above sea level.

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00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: It appears not a lot, not very high up. All right?

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Speaker 2: Good.

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00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 1: I like the Calves.

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00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 3: I thought Miley.

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00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: Very very difficult these games. After the all start. It's

1136
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: a These are both good teams. Obviously, no one would

1137
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: be shocked if the Nuggets win. But it's like, good,

1138
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: How is everybody's vacation? How is the travel back? Who

1139
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: was involved in All Star weekend? How tired are they?

1140
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: Who's ready for the sprint?

1141
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 3: Here?

1142
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 1: We have eight weeks left of the regular season.

1143
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 3: Like y'all get Chane tired from the All Star Game?

1144
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 1: That's for sure.

1145
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: Mitchell might be Yeah, he was actually scoring.

1146
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, damn, I'm gonna regret that Calf's pick, aren't

1147
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: I all right? So we have the Calves to win

1148
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: by three or more? You got the Nags? Good luck?

1149
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: This next topic here, this is what right it is

1150
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 2: all about. People have waited outside the Hornets Arena and

1151
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 2: filmed lamellow Ball driving off on several occasions, and redditors

1152
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 2: are all over it. So we've got a video we

1153
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: need to show you which depicts LaMelo balls very dangerous

1154
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 2: driving style leaving the arena. He doesn't care about red lights,

1155
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 2: he doesn't give a crap, So somebody compiled them all.

1156
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 2: Brick Dash Young posted it on Reddit. There's red lights

1157
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 2: as he leaves with his lambeau. I think his range,

1158
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 2: just driving literally driving through red lights, no problem. He

1159
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: drives like he plays basketball, slightly reckless, just flying through

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00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: these red lights. Other people stopped at these lights. He's

1161
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: just gone. So this is a compilation. I don't know

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00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: how long these have been compiled over, but he's only

1163
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: been in the league, you know, two and a half

1164
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: years here, so it's not a good track record. Slow down,

1165
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: Lamo chill out.

1166
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Speaker 3: Man looks like he would fit right in in Atlanta though.

1167
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 3: Sure red lights are just the suggestion here, and LaMelo

1168
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 3: is not even taking the suggestion.

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00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: I was trying to, like, I was like, okay, those

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00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: were a couple of clips of him ripping through the

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00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: same red light, and I was trying to like think,

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00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: is it possible because of the game going on at

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00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: the arena, Like it's one of those things where like

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00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,959
Speaker 1: a pylon is set up, or you can't get through

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00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: on that street, you know what I mean. I was

1176
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: like trying to like give him the benefit of the doubt,

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Speaker 1: like not that he should still be ripping through the

1178
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: red but if no one else can, if traffic can't

1179
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 1: come through that side road, then does it really matter.

1180
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: I couldn't see anything though.

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00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 3: There's one where he has to like swerve around another

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00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 3: car going through the intersection. I'm giving him the benefit

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00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 3: of the doubt because he's twenty one. I did some

1184
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 3: dumb things in a car when I was twenty one.

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00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: That's good point.

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00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 2: You gotta slow down either way to determine whether or

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00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: not that's happening. I guess it's his home street there,

1188
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: right outside the arena. It's the first street he sees.

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00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 2: The fans are basically waiting for him to pull out.

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00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 2: They know the parking lot. But you gotta at least

1191
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 2: slow down at red light, like at least right, not

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00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 2: speed up. It's not a take the foot off at least. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Some of the comments on this thread were pretty funny

1194
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: to me. Some of them were funny, and then there

1195
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: was actually a serious one. But the first one was

1196
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: very funny. User Moby three two three. He drives exactly

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00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: the way I would expect from someone who owns a

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00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: gold Ferra. True this one, I burst out laughing. User

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00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: r Swanny Glasshouse lives for New yeer'sy. And then there

1200
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 1: was just a hundred you know comment thread of people

1201
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: quoting I think you should leave, and you know, slick

1202
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: back he used to be a piece of shit, all

1203
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: that stuff, you know, sloppy steaks. It was very well done,

1204
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: but the serious one was from user psycho Alpinist. One

1205
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 1: of the few jerseys we have hanging in the rafters

1206
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: is Bobby Phils in Charlotte, and he was killed doing

1207
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: stupid stuff on the freeway in the Charlotte area. So

1208
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,439
Speaker 1: maybe it's time for the team to intervene here before

1209
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: we have to hang another jersey unfortunately, And I was like, oh,

1210
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: that was a pretty sobbering thought after some funny jokes there,

1211
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, guys ripping through redline and it's not a

1212
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: great look time after time after time if that is

1213
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: indeed happening. And that's what the evidence or the video shows.

1214
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: So he's doing dumb, young kid things, but you don't

1215
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: want it to end in tragedy. So sorry to bring

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00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: it all down there.

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00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, somebody will say something to him.

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00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 2: Now.

1219
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 3: If these videos get more and more mainstream press, I

1220
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: don't know for mainstream you know what I'm saying. The

1221
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 3: more eyeballs on it, the more the hornets are going

1222
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 3: to feel compelled to step in.

1223
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: I would imagine fair point.

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Speaker 1: NBA Readit podcast. This is always a treat. Love doing these.

1225
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: We're sort of gotten into the habit of bilt once a.

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00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: Month, is that right, that's exactly right.

1227
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun. Let us know if you like them.

1228
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: Leave your boys a five star rating and review on

1229
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: any of the podcasts platforms, Apple, Spotify, or whatever. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you hit the light button. Make sure you subscribe

1231
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Speaker 1: to notes on YouTube. We're back tomorrow with the Drop Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Worst of the Week. We got nominy.

1233
00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one. It's a good call. Didn't happen this week.

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00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: I don't think JJ.

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00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,959
Speaker 1: Okay, but you got one one really solid worse than.

1236
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: That's the winner.

1237
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: We got a ton of games to talk about. With

1238
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: basketball coming back, we'll have rapid fire funds. So the

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00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: Drop Podcast live at ten a m. Eastern from the

1240
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: Classic Factory. But join us tonight. And when I say us,

1241
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: I mean this guy right here and JD on playback Nuggets, Calves,

1242
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: and then the Maestro of the remote task Melos bouncing

1243
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: all around. Especially those early games. We usually generally go

1244
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: through the ending of the sort of early game.

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00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: You're gonna love it, JD. You are going to love it.

1246
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 3: I can't wait.

1247
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: It's I've been on. I went on once, yeah, but

1248
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: it was just so much fun. The technology has also improved.

1249
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: Sometimes you get both feeds of a game. If you're

1250
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: watching nets next, you'll get the MSG, you'll get the yes,

1251
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: I want to see the replay from these guys. It's

1252
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 2: it's it's a cool technology. Actually, yeah, can we watch

1253
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: like My six hundred pound Life? You can jump over.

1254
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: Let's do it all right, So who knows what's gonna

1255
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: happen on playback tonight task JD join them at some

1256
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: pm Eastern. Again, that link is in the show notes. Otherwise,

1257
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: we will see you here tomorrow morning at ten a m.

1258
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: Stern until that Clipper bros.

1259
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

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00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 3: Love you guys, awesome, Thanks for joining us.

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00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: And remember I had to check JD if it was

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00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: my six hundred pound life because I remember people heavier

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00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 2: on that show. I thought it was even higher. I

1264
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: thought he was even higher. But yeah, there's one thousand

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00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 2: pounds sisters, that's what it's called. Yeah, a show on

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00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: t TLC probaly TLC like a thousand pound Well no,

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00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: well it's the two sisters.

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Speaker 3: Thousand pounds.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like a tag team coming to the.

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Speaker 2: Okay, cool, all right, see you tonight.

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Speaker 3: Race to the day people,