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Speaker 1: Yeah, that Uh, Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex.

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Speaker 2: The rex was not chasing the jeep. Murray, Murray, you there.

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Speaker 2: You love sandwiches.

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Speaker 3: Huh, let's go to uh eighty.

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Speaker 2: It was bo wow that Prime Time.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I had a crush on Betty Rubble.

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Speaker 4: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went

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Speaker 3: He caught them the game last night, although they won

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Stu gottson Company.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stu Goattson Company. We are company, and Stu

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Speaker 1: Goatts is dot here. Stu Gotts, head of the company,

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Speaker 1: not here at the moment, which is great, by the way,

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Speaker 1: because you know, it's a Wednesday in the NFL season.

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Speaker 1: It's not like we have to struggle to find things

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Speaker 3: Yes we do.

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Speaker 1: But uh, for those who don't know this, Musy Gutierre's

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Speaker 1: it's mikey A, that's Taylor.

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Speaker 2: V and Uh.

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Speaker 1: Basically Taylor has been serving as Stu Gotts for a

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Speaker 1: while now he is. Stu has effectively downloaded his brain

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Speaker 1: into Taylor or vice versa. I'm not sure which is true,

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Speaker 1: and you know Taylor is occasionally, not all the time,

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Speaker 1: Taylor should go ahead and tell us what we should

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Speaker 4: Yes, thank you, thank you Izzie for the setup. We're

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Speaker 4: presented by fan Duel. Full transparency for for people who

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Speaker 4: want to know where Stu Gots is. He's in meetings

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Speaker 4: today that are above all three of our pay grades?

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Speaker 2: Do we have grates coin.

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Speaker 4: Coincidentally enough, again full transparency. One of those meetings is

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Speaker 4: about setting up a payroll so that things can be

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Speaker 4: above our pay grades.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exciting, putting us in our proper pay grade.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but wait, Taylor, true or false?

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Speaker 1: When actually, Mikey true or fuzz When you told Stu

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Speaker 1: Gotts what we were going to be talking about today,

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Speaker 1: he wanted to come in.

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Speaker 2: True, got jealous? He got jealous? Was He goes, yeah, guys, guys,

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Speaker 2: I'm so busy today. What what have you guys record?

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Speaker 2: What are you recording? I was like, we actually got

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Speaker 5: He goes, what are you doing. And then I told

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Speaker 5: They were like, no, you go ahead and do your

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Speaker 5: business stuff because, frankly, to me and to Taylor probably

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Speaker 5: did Izzy too, it's much more important that you get

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Speaker 5: these pay grade things set up rather than joined for

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So Stu Gotts told us like, hey, you guys could

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Speaker 4: take the day off today.

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Speaker 2: We told him, no, show must go on.

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Speaker 4: We love the ste Gotts army, we love the people

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Speaker 4: that support the show. So what we came together, Me, Izzy,

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Speaker 4: mikey A, our brain power came together. What's the most

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Speaker 4: Stu gots show that we could do in his absence?

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Speaker 4: And what we came up with, drum roll here, We're

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Speaker 4: going to put Week two games in the NFL into tiers.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that's so Stu Gotts.

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Speaker 1: I can hear him got from a distance. He's not

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Speaker 1: that far from me, a few miles. I could hear him say,

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Speaker 1: So Taylor, we looked at the schedule and Week two

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Speaker 5: Mikey, Yeah, I would say this is the Ohio State

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and one of the reasons why I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: Okay, Chiefs, how would you describe Chiefs Eagles? We have

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Speaker 3: It's the house money tier.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely the house money tier. Now, I know a

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Speaker 3: They're zero to one.

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Speaker 1: They have, as Mikey likes to say, it's not press

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Speaker 2: Just locate it nowhere, but just where to press it.

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Speaker 1: Did we see the push push even once in that

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Speaker 5: That is not a Philly thing to do. Not do

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Speaker 4: I agree that this is a house money game, but

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Speaker 2: They're hungry.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's weak too, the sharks are hungry for something

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Speaker 1: It's just people going around like looking any possible football team.

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Speaker 4: It's it's like the doomsday people and the people who

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Speaker 4: example of that, where Stu Gotts is just looking for

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Speaker 2: Going to circle. Yeah, it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: The Jaws theme song is currently playing for this Kansas

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Speaker 3: It up on the desk in the home office.

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Speaker 1: If they press it, is Tyreek Hill on the other

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Speaker 2: To come get him. I'm sorry, it wasn't me, it

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Speaker 5: They if they lose this game, then they got to

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Speaker 1: This is getting back together, right. This is Tyreek Hills

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he needs to say.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of people, but the Chiefs among them.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Chiefs one and a half point dogs at home

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Speaker 2: That's all I want to say.

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Speaker 1: Two games Cowboys Giants not that interesting, right, it's really

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Speaker 3: Right, we gotta close this deal.

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Speaker 5: Not only that, I mean, if they would have held

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Speaker 3: It was the only place to put the blame if

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Speaker 1: Well, that was one of those games I didn't really

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but this I do agree. Elimination game.

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Speaker 4: I am willing to sharpy out whoever loses his team

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Speaker 1: But we've got four games and the prove it's not

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Speaker 1: of points, and you know, if they don't, you know,

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00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 1: allow a bionic kick that goes seventy yards and only

444
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 1: needed to go sixty. Then maybe that game is different.

445
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,879
Speaker 1: And so I feel like the Jets look at this

446
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 1: and say, let's see what we're really about.

447
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 5: That game went different than most everybody thought it would.

448
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 5: Everybody was thinking thirteen to ten and it was thirty

449
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 5: four to thirty two final And a lot of Jets

450
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 5: fans are sitting there thinking, we have an offense. Now,

451
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 5: we trust that the defense will get fixed, and I

452
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I'm not sure. So I want to say,

453
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 5: prove that offense. By the way, the Jets the only

454
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 5: team in this tier that need to prove that it

455
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 5: wasn't a fluke after a.

456
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 3: Loss, right right?

457
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 1: Because the next game Steeler Seahawks, Like, it's not a Seahawks,

458
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 1: prove it, it's a Steelers.

459
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 3: Prove it?

460
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 2: Steelers?

461
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 1: Did you get lucky because you got this kicker that

462
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: you know? Maybe did the Royds met before the game

463
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: or or are you legit?

464
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,199
Speaker 2: Can I say something controversial? Always?

465
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,239
Speaker 1: No, I don't know if you have the ability to

466
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,919
Speaker 1: do that, Like it just doesn't come off of you

467
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 1: in that way, but sure try it.

468
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 4: I hate how good kickers have gone like we we

469
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 4: I don't want. I want to go into a game

470
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 4: and know that, like in the back of my mind,

471
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 4: this kicker can make like a sixty five yard field

472
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 4: goal to put the dagger through my heart, Like I

473
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 4: wanted to go back to the days where a kicker

474
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 4: comes out for like a fifty three yard field goal

475
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 4: and you're like, oh my god, this is he is

476
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 4: launching himself into this kick to try to get it there,

477
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 4: and then he kicks it and it's like ten yards

478
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 4: short and you're like, yes, I knew it.

479
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 3: First of all, not very controversial at all.

480
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: Second of trod.

481
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 3: I'm going to get back to this guy, believe it

482
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 3: or not, before our time is up here.

483
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 1: But you know, Martin Grammatica son plays for usf right,

484
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: and he had one of those. He had the game winner,

485
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: of course, but that was from the one yard line.

486
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 1: But he had like a fifty nine yard or earlier

487
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: in the game. And how I got that feeling exactly

488
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 1: the one that I used to get in the NFL.

489
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, he's supposed to be a good college kicker,

490
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 1: but this might be right at the edge of his range,

491
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: and like sitting here like all right, ooh that looks good.

492
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 2: It looks short.

493
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 3: It felt like two yards short. You very rarely see that, right.

494
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: They usually have the leg and it just goes, you know,

495
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: off in one direction or the other. But that was

496
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 1: one of those and it was a grammatica which is great.

497
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: But again, we'll get back to him a little bit later.

498
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: Steelers Seahawks. Second game in that proven is not a

499
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 1: flip tier. Obviously the Steelers, you know, you beat the Jets.

500
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: Let's let's prove that.

501
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: That's the thing Aaron Rodgers has to prove. He didn't

502
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 2: do it on sheer hate for the Jets. Yeah it did.

503
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: Like it's not just hate that carried him to that game.

504
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 1: Although if you look at Aaron's history and his personality,

505
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: like that's his best fuel, isn't.

506
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: It, Like I think, yeah, so it could be that

507
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 3: that was that.

508
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: Will easily be his best game of the season and

509
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 1: he'll never throw four touchdowns again.

510
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 4: But I am kind of concerned, like Mikey, that if

511
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 4: he doesn't see the Jets across from him, he doesn't

512
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 4: have that that extra gear in him. I think I

513
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 4: think it was like a bull seeing red when he

514
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 4: saw that Jets logo that he was like, Okay, I

515
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 4: am going to the red dot that arch Manning put

516
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 4: on people's head. He had that on eleven defenders, on

517
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 4: every Weddy.

518
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: He creates that motive from any Jets connection for his opponent. Therefore,

519
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: when he's playing Sam Donald and the Seahawks, he's got

520
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: that same fire.

521
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna kill that mother. Ever, it's like, well in

522
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 3: New York think he's a better quarterback than me.

523
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,719
Speaker 4: It's like the Bobby Bouchet when he's like playing in

524
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 4: the water boy and he's like seeing other people when

525
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 4: he's out there, or Sam Darnold's seeing ghosts.

526
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is just seeing.

527
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 3: Jets everywhere he looks. Wow, what a nightmare.

528
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: Everywhere you look you see a Jets, Chargers Raiders Game

529
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: three of the prove it's not a Fluke tier.

530
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 3: And that's just for the Chargers, I mean it is.

531
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: The Raiders too. For the Raiders too.

532
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 5: They beat the Patriots, they went on the road to Foxborough,

533
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 5: they beat the Patriots, and this was gonna be the

534
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 5: bottom of the AFC West.

535
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: And let's just put it this way.

536
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: The Raiders are always in this tier because are the

537
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: Raiders for real?

538
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 4: Right?

539
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: So with not a Fluke is just another way of saying,

540
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: are you for real? This is their permanent tier.

541
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 4: People want to believe in Pete Carroll too, and Gino Smith.

542
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 4: I think Gino Smith had that redemption arc in Seattle

543
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 4: to where if you're pairing him and Pete Carroll then

544
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, maybe again for real, but maybe this

545
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 4: team could become something. When you have a young, dynamic

546
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 4: running back in Ashton Genty, the pieces are there for

547
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 4: people to be intrigued about this team.

548
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 1: Okay, what is it about Pete Carroll that you think

549
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: people really like and want to cheer for. Is it

550
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: because he's a young looking old guy. Is it because

551
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: he's an energetic old guy? If he was more like

552
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, Bill Belichick or somebody that's just like

553
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: looked weak on the sideline as everybody's saying, hey, we

554
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: want that guy to win.

555
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can hit the nail on the head. I

556
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: think you nailed it. Because he's seventy three years old.

557
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 5: He's the oldest coach in the NFL and he's still

558
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 5: running around jumping more than you know Mike Rabel and

559
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 5: Aaron Glenn some of the younger coaches.

560
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 3: And he's in Vegas now and he's in.

561
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 2: Vegas, like, I mean, yeah, I want to root for

562
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 2: that guy.

563
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 3: I think the best game of the week.

564
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: End because that Thursday game might be the last one

565
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: in this tier, and that's Broncos Colts.

566
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 3: Baby.

567
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 1: Like I wrote, if you have great eyes, you can

568
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: see I wrote, one of these teams will be a

569
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,959
Speaker 1: juggernaut like that. Maybe not for the whole season, but

570
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: for the first half of the season they will be

571
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: considered a juggernaut because Denver's defense, I mean, they gave

572
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: up I want to say, one hundred and forty three yards, yeah,

573
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: to Nashville, to the Tennessee Titans the other day, and

574
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 1: so they could, you know, put the absolute clamps on

575
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: the Colts. But if they don't, it'll be because Daniel

576
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: Jones and that offensive line is apparently great and the

577
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: Colts will be something to mess with for a while.

578
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 3: Because I mean, that's gonna be an interesting game.

579
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I have more faith and I don't

580
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: mean for this game, I mean for the entirety of

581
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: their career and Daniel Jones than I do in bo Nicks.

582
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: Somebody tell me why I'm wrong, because look at I'm

583
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: gonna pull up these statistics from their games. And I

584
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: don't know how often this happens, h but you guys

585
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: know how often does it happen where a team's rushing

586
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: yards per attempt is greater than their passing yards per attempt?

587
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: That can't be something that happens very often unless you've

588
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: got just you know, a great running game, especially today,

589
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: where you know, the running game is not as or

590
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: at least running backs an't as important, but the running

591
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: game is not really as relied upon as much.

592
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 5: I'm sure it doesn't happen very often, and I'm sure

593
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 5: when it does it's a justin Field's Jalen Hurts led.

594
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 5: You know, we're gonna run the ball, run the ball,

595
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 5: run the ball, not just three yards and a cloud

596
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 5: of dust, but chunks of yards, and we're.

597
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: Just gonna we're just gonna throw just to keep you honest.

598
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's I guess that's bon Nicks, right, that's

599
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: the offense. He has to run, even though some people

600
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: love him. But yeah, Denver averaged five yards per carry

601
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: against Tennessee and four point four yards per pass. Now

602
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: it's better than Cam who averaged four yards per past.

603
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: So that was a very terrible game. But just wondering

604
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: if bo Nicks is the answer. Ever, So I'm.

605
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 5: Going deep dive here with this prove it's not a

606
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 5: fluke for the Colts. You're proving last week wasn't a

607
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 5: fluke for the Broncos. You're trying to prove last years

608
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 5: and wasn't a fluke.

609
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: All right because that first game against the rookie quarterback

610
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: starting his first year. Yeah, probably gonna look dominant there

611
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: and probably gonna score twenty points.

612
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

613
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: So this is it's the double prove it's not. It's

614
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: like the ultimate in this in this tier.

615
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 4: Do you guys feel like America the casual football fan

616
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: that doesn't have a rooting interest in either one of

617
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: these teams? Do you feel like people are rooting for

618
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 4: the Daniel Jones redemption story.

619
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: I don't think there's enough interest in the Indianapolis Colts

620
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: team or in a you went to North Carolina, right, No, Duke, No, dude, Duke,

621
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, dude, quarterback almost sacrilege awesome.

622
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: That's gonna be the worst.

623
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 4: In state Anti state is the only thing more insulting

624
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 4: that you could have said than you good?

625
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, if it was basketball, I would I would

626
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: immediately be on your shit list. Right now, I get

627
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: a pass all my bad, but I just don't think

628
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: there's that much interest in Daniel Jones. I think the

629
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: only reason even I care is because I just watched

630
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: that entire game last week and thought, Wow, that looks great,

631
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: and so I don't know how I would argue there's

632
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: more people that want to see what Anthony Richardson can

633
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: do because they're convinced that they already know what Daniel

634
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: Jones is.

635
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 5: I think Daniel Jones is one of the and I

636
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 5: promise I'll land this plane. I think Daniel Jones is

637
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 5: one of the most famous people that could get away

638
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 5: with murder because I'm not sure I could pick him

639
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 5: out of a lineup I could watch.

640
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I could pick him out of a lineup.

641
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 5: You could show me five guys and say one of

642
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 5: them is Daniel Jones and none of them are Daniel Jones,

643
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 5: and I would still not know.

644
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: I would I guess it's that guy.

645
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 5: It's a rough landing, but it's just one of those

646
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones is just he went to Duke he doesn't

647
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 5: have this, and then he was on the Giants and

648
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 5: he was kind of okay, and then he wasn't, then

649
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 5: he was, and now he's on a team like Indianapolis

650
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 5: that's they're okay, but they're not. And I go, I

651
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 5: don't know if I could pick Daniel Jones out of

652
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 5: a lineup with his helmet off.

653
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: No, I think you're right. I think you're right.

654
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: If you have him and Andrew Luck walk anywhere in

655
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: the country side by side, it's probably like nine to

656
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: one people that recognized Andrew Luck, who had not a

657
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: club spelling years not right.

658
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 5: Not you'd recognize Jake from State Farm before you recognize.

659
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: Famous mother effort.

660
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: All right, the next tier. Look, this was a combined

661
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: effort here. Okay, let's just be honest about this. This

662
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: was not my tier selection.

663
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: I did not name this tier. I'm gonna go ahead

664
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: and hand it on.

665
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: Just just let Taylor do it. This is because I

666
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: let him do it.

667
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 4: So the game is Falcons Vikings, And there was some

668
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 4: debate what tier this should go into, because there it

669
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 4: was hard to pencil this one in and nail it

670
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 4: down to one tier. The tier I settled on is

671
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 4: the quarterback that wins this game would go second. In

672
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 4: a redraft of the twenty twenty four NFL Draft behind

673
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels tier.

674
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: Pretty simple, pretty simple, pretty simple.

675
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: You know, let's think you're right.

676
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: So basically, it's not much about the teams. You're just

677
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: judging these two quarterbacks. All that matters about this game.

678
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: And it's Michael Pennix Junior and JJ McCarthy And to me,

679
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: I originally had this and they.

680
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: Prove it's not a Fluke tier for the Vikings.

681
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: Because you know, they're comeback and JJ McCarthy was getting

682
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, pooped on for three quarters and then all

683
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden two and a half quarters whatever, and

684
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden everybody had to swallow their words,

685
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: including myself. But you're saying that Pennix is just as

686
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: much an intriguing part of this. So whoever looks better

687
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: out of these two is where we set that narrative.

688
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: Yep.

689
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 4: So the consensus in the twenty twenty four NFL redraft,

690
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels goes number one. The debate. The debate starts

691
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 4: now at number two. Caleb Williams left a lot to

692
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 4: be desired on Monday Night football. People have been wanting

693
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 4: to crown Drake May as that number two guy. He

694
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 4: really hasn't taken that. So what you're left with is

695
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 4: the number two spot is up for grabs. Pennix and

696
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy, who kind of came in under the radar

697
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 4: in that draft class, are now slowly. Mikey A just

698
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 4: landed the plane. These two planes are taking it off.

699
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 4: They're taking off right now.

700
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: Oh boy, do we have good air traffic control? Might

701
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: they collide in mid air? I was looking at Michael

702
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: Pennock's game. He lost to Baker and that comeback, and

703
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's a great drive by Baker. If he

704
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: doesn't do that, then Michael Penix looks pretty good. He

705
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: had a QBR of eighty three point seven, almost three

706
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: hundred yards one TD, no interception, and only got sacked

707
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: at one time. So I think that's a probably a

708
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: good assessment by you, a little wordy, but a good

709
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: assessment for the teer and JJ McCarthy.

710
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: Man, I don't know where I'm at with JJ.

711
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: Like I want him to do well, I think, but

712
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: I feel like people who are anointing him are just

713
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: doing it based on I don't know if it's the

714
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: Michigan Tom Brady connection.

715
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's because he's.

716
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: You know, the big white champion of Innesota, National champion

717
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: Michael Champion, A likable guy. Seems like, you know, people

718
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: want to give him a hug. So maybe that's what

719
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: it is. But I haven't seen much of the like that.

720
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: That comeback was great, and but he didn't really set

721
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: the bar very high right, like he was so bad

722
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: before that that it was just like, if you do

723
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 1: anything at all, you're gonna look fantastic.

724
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: So it's an interesting tier.

725
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 5: I don't know the other thing for Pennix, he did

726
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 5: get them in a position to tie the game. Kicker

727
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 5: missed the field goal and it wasn't a sixty yarder,

728
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 5: it was you know, it was a makeable field goal.

729
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 5: And so so Penix did he let them down? He

730
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 5: gave them a shot. He's not kicking it too.

731
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: That's who is their kicker, young way Coop. I didn't

732
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: realize that. When he comes out to kickballs in Atlanta,

733
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: they all say who yep, he was the coolest got

734
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: the coolest kicker in the league.

735
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 4: Then Tier, they're about to start yelling cut what was

736
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 4: the one that he missed?

737
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: How long was that one? Let's see, couldn't have been

738
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: that long. It doesn't say his long as forty one,

739
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: so it was less than forty one. That's terrible by him.

740
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: All Right, we've got the next tier. It's a busy tier.

741
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: Do you want the games first or do you want

742
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: the here first?

743
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: I think me the games, Give me the games.

744
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: The games are Bucks, Texans, Jags, Bengals and Bears, Lions.

745
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 3: What is that category? And he guesses it's to show

746
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 3: me something to hear.

747
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: And that's that's I would say for one, two, that's

748
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: for those five, For those say five of those six teams,

749
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: I would argue, the only team that doesn't really need

750
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: to show me something of those six teams is the Bucks.

751
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 3: Right, so Bucks, Texans, the show me comes from c J.

752
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: Stroud.

753
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: By the way, it was a forty four yard kick

754
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 3: that he missed.

755
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 4: Uh.

756
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: C J.

757
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: Stroud With the Texans, we crowned him his rookie season,

758
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: didn't we We anointed him one of the next big things, right?

759
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 1: And then what are we missing? Was he not great

760
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: last week? Has he not been good since then? Or

761
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: did we judge too soon on c J.

762
00:35:59,640 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: Stroud?

763
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: Or is this week two?

764
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: If he settles in against the Bucks, he kind of

765
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: just calm yourself again and be like, all right, he'll

766
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: be fine.

767
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 5: I think it's I mean, we're gonna blame Stroud because

768
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 5: he's the quarterback and we did anoint him two years ago.

769
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 5: But this game is really going to be about his

770
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 5: offensive line. This season is going to be about his

771
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 5: offensive line, because the big problem for him last year

772
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 5: was he was always running for his life and in

773
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 5: Week one he was running for his life and you can't.

774
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter how good the quarterback is unless you're

775
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson, and even he would.

776
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: Have trouble behind this offensive line.

777
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 5: You're not gonna succeed if you can't run your offense.

778
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: Jags Bengals, both teams need to show me something. Bengals

779
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: won by one against the Browns. Jags beat a non

780
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: NFL team, and they.

781
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: Both won ugly.

782
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 5: They both won just really ugly games that almost for

783
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 5: like it doesn't even count as a win. I mean,

784
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 5: you get it, but it's a bad no one walked away. Yeah,

785
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 5: it's a bad win. It's a great way to it.

786
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 1: And I would even say if the Bengals win this one,

787
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: it'll be a second bad win, because you know.

788
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 5: You win, you win forty to forty to ten, and

789
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 5: you go, okay, you put up points where you had

790
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 5: to put up.

791
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: Points, all right, one of the best games of the

792
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: weekend Bears Lions. That to me was it can't lose.

793
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: But I get it. I get it as a show

794
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: me something. To me, it was a Detroit Lions can't

795
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: lose because you've got your old offensive coordinator coming in

796
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: as the head coach of the Bears. You just came

797
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: off of a terrible offensive performance in the opener, and

798
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: you know, reading the Detroit Free Press sort of some

799
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: of the minor details are really what the problem is.

800
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: Some communication in the offensive line really not as bad

801
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: as it looked. But they've got to show me that

802
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: against the Bears. And then, you know, Caleb Williams and

803
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: the Bear Caleb Williams and the Bears need to basically

804
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: show me something after the first quarter after you know,

805
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: maybe things aren't descripted for Caleb Williams as we're expecting

806
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: them to be at the beginning of game. So for

807
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: both of these teams, I think it's more show me something.

808
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 5: For the Lions, yeah, Jared Gott's got to show he's

809
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 5: not a system quarterback. I said it the other day,

810
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 5: oh nineteen and one. Without Sean mcvayh or Ben Johnson

811
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 5: calling plays for him. At some point you got to

812
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 5: be able to put up some points when it's.

813
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: Well, the key is like he's the biggest strength we

814
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,479
Speaker 1: mentioned the other day was off of the play action.

815
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: When you're not running the ball, well, nobody's falling for

816
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: play action or you can't even go to it that often.

817
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: So if they get into their normal running game, which

818
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: again a little bit of like miscommunication. There was one

819
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: play at the goal line where it was six protecting

820
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: against four rushing and somehow somebody broke right open. It

821
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: was a little not for a little juke that would

822
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: have been a safety for the Lions. So that's a

823
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: huge game, probably the biggest game in that category.

824
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 3: We probably shouldn't have started.

825
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: We probably should have started with these last two categories,

826
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: shouldn't we?

827
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: Yep, we run through them quick.

828
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 4: This is This is us looking up at the clock

829
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 4: seeing that there's like two minutes left in the segment

830
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 4: and being like, hey, we got two more games. Yeah,

831
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 4: we got two more games. We just have to mention

832
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 4: these two games and get out.

833
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: All right, We've got the just get us to Week

834
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: three without another injury tier and that's Niner Saints, is it?

835
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: It's not that bad for the Saints, right, This is

836
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: just a Niner situation.

837
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: This is the Saints are just trying to get to

838
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: next year. Yeah, just get to next year for the Saints.

839
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 4: The Saints are in the like position ourselves for the

840
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 4: best quarterback in the NFL draft tier. Oh the March

841
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 4: for Arch, the March for Arch tier the forty nine ers.

842
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 4: This is almost a camp a can't lose game for

843
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers. But because of how banged up

844
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 4: they are Brock Purdy, Iffy, George Kittle out multiple weeks,

845
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 4: they're just they're just in the surviving advance tier right now?

846
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: Wait a second, are the Saints absolutely doing the arch

847
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: Archie Manning thing like bring him to New Orleans?

848
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: The Saints go arching in?

849
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: This is this is I mean, that's got to be

850
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: his team, right, He's never going to be a Dolphin

851
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 1: when you've got that opportunity out there, all right, Last tier,

852
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: nothing in this game could get me to care about

853
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: this game tier.

854
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: And it's the Panthersian Cardinals.

855
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: How far done, Tyler? You need to say about that one?

856
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 4: So I had this, I had this written down as

857
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 4: a topic or as an observation that just it made

858
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 4: the cutting room floor. So yeah, yeah, it didn't make it.

859
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 4: But is it too late to sell my Bryce Young stocks?

860
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 4: Because I think I think I'm ready to sell I

861
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 4: don't really want to be I don't want to be

862
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 4: holding my stocks.

863
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: They keep been under on it for a while now.

864
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gotten back to level yet. I

865
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: think based on the hope of being number one pick,

866
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: he came all the way down here with his performances

867
00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: and kind of.

868
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: Got his way back up to here, but still.

869
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: Is not even at the same level of hope that

870
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: there was when he was drafted.

871
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 3: So I still think he's underwater. I don't think you

872
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 3: can sell that.

873
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: I'll buy them, Okay, I'll buy him.

874
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 4: Wow, I'll buy I'll buy your shares. I was gonna

875
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 4: say I'm terrible. I would be I don't do the

876
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 4: stock market because I would be terrible with the overreactions,

877
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 4: under reactions like remember the whole whole, like games, the games.

878
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: My problem in the stock market would be I would

879
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 4: buy at the absolute highest and I would sell at

880
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 4: the absolute lowest.

881
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Speaker 2: So right now, that's the opposite. That's the opposite of

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Speaker 2: what you gotta do, Taylor.

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Speaker 4: Which is why I admittedly don't do it. So Mikey,

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Speaker 4: I have I think I have fifty shares left of

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Speaker 4: Bryce young stock. Just just name any price you want

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Speaker 4: for him. There, there you are.

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Speaker 2: I don't want pennies on the dollar on Bryce young stock.

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Speaker 2: It's a penny stock right now.

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Speaker 1: I think I think the proper name for this tier,

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Speaker 1: which was mine nap time