1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just keep the real straight shout with Jason. 2 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a little bit rougher. I'm here for it. 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Those who really believe in the American process, all of us. 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: Straight Shot No Chaser? What's your girl? Tesselam figuring on 5 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: the Black Effect podcasting that word that. What's happening everybody? 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: This is Tesla Figure over with straight Shot No Chaser. 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: I am here with my friend. Brought him back a 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: second time. Dr e Lance McCarthy. I hope you had 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: an opportunity to check out Black in Tech. I wanted 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: to bring him back to talk about the cannabis market. 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: He is a national recognized faith based economist and investment 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: advisor with a specialty and urban development. Dr McCarthy has 13 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: assisted nonprofit organizations, churches, corporations, professional athletes and cities, and 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: economic development and financial plans. He's a personal friend of 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 1: mine for the last twenty years. Please go check out 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: Black in Tech to listen to our story and how 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: we became acquainted. I do want you to know that 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm bringing you folks that are not just talking to talk, 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: but actually walk the walk with real experience, and he 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: is here to talk to us today. About the green 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: rush and cannabis. Welcome again, Dr McCarthy, pleasure well break 22 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: this down this. I pride myself in doing research and 23 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: a lot of different things and trying to stay abreast, 24 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: but this is one thing Dr McCarthy that I'm just 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: not that informed on. Uh. You know, I know the overall, 26 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, idea of the cannabis market. I know how 27 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: important it is that black folks have opportunities, and that 28 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: good friend of mine, Killer Mike, is always you know, 29 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: pushing for that. I'm always pushing for that as well 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 1: from the legislative side, to make sure that black people, 31 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: specifically you don't have an opportunity to benefit off of 32 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: cannabis because obviously, as you know, that being a part 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: of one of one of the one of the many 34 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: reasons why black folks are being locked up, that we 35 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: certainly should have an opportunity to be able to use 36 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: that market to restore our community. But that's about as deep, 37 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: you know, as I went. I've had some conversations, I 38 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: know some folks that asked, at one point in time, 39 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: would I be interested in investing. I've heard a lot 40 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: of different things on the market being closed now, the 41 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: market being open, if they're still an opportunity, how much 42 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: money do you need? So kind of give us some 43 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: basics for anyone that just may not be familiar with 44 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: why we call this the Green Rush and why it's 45 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: so important to the African American community. Great. Great, So 46 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: let's go back to prohibition days when we saw liquor 47 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: being illegal and then when it became legal, people make 48 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: tons of dollars. So that is what we're at right now. 49 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: We know that the black market being the legal markets 50 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: marijuana has been around forever, and now as we make 51 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: it legal, uh, there's opportunity on the business side, and 52 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: it's an opportunity to right the wrongs the brothers and 53 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: sisters who would incarcerated sometimes life for cannabis. And we 54 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: want to make sure in this green rush that those 55 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: that worth disenfranchise be a part of it, because if 56 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: you look historically that anytime there's a movement, you'll have 57 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: people who have the power of the money to take 58 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: it over and those who were incarcerated and disenfranchised won't 59 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: be able to make part of it. So I am 60 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: the economic advisor for the Minortist of medical Marijuana. We 61 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: started five years ago. The goals to make sure that 62 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: we incorporate minorities in the space. We are now in 63 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: thirty three states around the country. We helped draft the 64 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: state legislation to make sure the social equities apart. We 65 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: work with people in boot camps and show them how 66 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: to get into the game, and we do this enormous 67 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: amount of education services to help people move far into 68 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: the space. Lastly, we're very excited to create a program 69 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: called clean Slate when we go around the country, have 70 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: expungement fair so we get people's records funds so they 71 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: can get only the canvas industry, but just be able 72 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: to get into the workforce. So it's a comprehensive plan. 73 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: We want to make sure that we inform African Americans 74 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: the opportunity of it. It's not just growing, it's not 75 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: just dispensaries, but it's a wide variety of areas that 76 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: you can get into this industry in be it transportation, 77 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: be a technology, pointed sales, banking. It's a whole industry 78 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: and only has been legalized or still servicing the black 79 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: market and invent Jester to move into the private sector. 80 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: So I just believe this is enormous mob opportunity going 81 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: to educate our people to make sure they've benefiting from 82 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: it both economically, financially and changing the realms of the 83 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: rights of us happen in the past. I'm glad you 84 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: touched on it's not just growing in a dispensary, because 85 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: that's usually the first thing, you know, at least that 86 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: I think that that most things people think of when 87 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: they hear about getting into this market. And from my understanding, 88 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: it's very expensive, um to be a dispensary or uh 89 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: to be a grower you have to go through quite 90 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: a bit of red tape and then also financing side. 91 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: So how are people one if if that's a myth, 92 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: please the spell it. If it's the truth, then it 93 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: can you give us a few you know? I know 94 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: this is something that people need to attend to boot camp, 95 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, to get more details. But can you overview 96 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: of how expensive it is? Are the challenges that you 97 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 1: see with getting on the dispensary side. Every state is different, right, 98 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: but it's typically two hundred fifty dollars uh in assects 99 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: for cash that you need to get into the game. Now, 100 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: the opportunity to get into the game is that we 101 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: helped draft that legislation, and so the majority partners get 102 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: bonuses and get benefit by having a social equity partner. 103 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: So the deal is, you don't want to try to 104 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: go into something a hundred sent on your own. You 105 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: can partner with a larger organization who talks about earlier 106 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: in the other conversation and be able to do joint ventures. So, yes, 107 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: you have to have cash, you gotta have assets, you 108 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: gotta have a clean record. But the laws that we 109 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: will help right in every state gives a benefit for 110 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: a person uh to be a minartist to get into 111 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: the space, and so we want to be able to 112 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: encourage people to make sure that you do that. Now, 113 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: a lot of times they may not have all the 114 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: capital they can win the license, and once they win 115 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: the license again a majority partner will come in and 116 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: provide that capital for you to be a partner. So 117 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: we're really sitting great as you look at laws and 118 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: legislation across the country. Yes, it's a bearer to get in, 119 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: but they're also in centers and ways of making that happen. Okay, 120 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: So if we're saying that this is going to benefit 121 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: those who are incarcerated, they obviously have a record. So 122 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: how do they get around that if you if it's 123 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: requiring you to have a clean background, good point. Good point. 124 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: You know what I meant about a clean background is 125 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: that you've been able to have some experience. So there 126 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: again are states that give you a benefit by having 127 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: someone that's been incarcerated, that bringing it from a tract 128 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: and is poverished. And that's that's how you know you're 129 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: being a major politician of how you write legislation to 130 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: incentivize this. So uh, people like Chicago, Michigan Church from 131 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: states that really have good incentives for people who either 132 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: have been incarcerated or come from low poverty tracks. You 133 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: get a check a benefit by being able to have that. 134 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: So again that's where we're able to help draft legislations 135 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: that benefit our people. Always talk about if you're gonna 136 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: do legislation, do business legislation that benefits our people. And 137 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: one thing about these cannabis laws, we're doing it on 138 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: state level. Okay. So the state level okay is click 139 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: every state, every state restla our own laws because it's 140 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: not federal yet, so every state restaurant laws. When we 141 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: try to go into states, work with the Black Caucus 142 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: to be able to create those legislation that incentivizes the 143 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: cannabis industry for having minorities. Not only minorities, the minorities 144 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: who had records from cannabis are with displaced and poverty areas. 145 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: So that's how we can create good legislation to incentivize 146 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: people to get into this game. So so far in 147 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: your work, what states have you found if you could 148 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: name a couple that have been very friendly u to 149 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: this legislation are actually made the changes. Illinois has been 150 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: real friendly. Not only did they create a social equity 151 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: benefit by doing it, but they create accelerators. And they 152 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: went to the majority cannabis holders and said, if you 153 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: put money into a fund again back to capital, you 154 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: put money to this fund that will help minorities in 155 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: the Canada space and will help accelerators, and that would 156 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: be a great mechanism. So I love when you incentivize 157 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: the politics in the state be able to incentivize capital 158 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: and partnerships. And again, uh, Illinois is one of those. 159 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: Now you're Oklahoma, it's chief you can go in there 160 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: and just get a license for a five hundred dollars. 161 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: Is different because I've got a couple of hompies that 162 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: got a license. Now, that'll makes sense. Every state five 163 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: hundred dollars, every status differently, right, and so what can 164 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: you do with the license? Yeah, the different licenses again, 165 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: you fly for dispensary, grow. Each license is different summer, vertical, summer, individual, 166 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: and Oklahoma's is vertical not back on our stuff around Flarida, 167 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: it's crazy because they only have fifteen licenses. So the 168 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: license is going for like thirty four million dollars. So yeah, 169 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: so it depends on the state. It's that state. You 170 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: have to help draft the legislation in that state that 171 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: incentivizes and helps minorities. And that's where we come in 172 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 1: and policy, and that's how you integrate economics and politics. 173 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: If you write the legislation to benefit your people, it's 174 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: all making sense. Because in Oklahoma there's literally it seems 175 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: like a dispensary on every other block, and I wonder, 176 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: like how all these people? So so when you say 177 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: two d again in the game, is what is that 178 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: the license and something else? Or is that different than 179 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: like what they're doing Oklahoma different? Every state is different. 180 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: So you know in laws, you've gotta have two hifty 181 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: dollars in cash or assets. Every state has different laws. 182 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: Until it becomes federal, you will have the states running it. 183 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: So some states are cheap, as I mentioned Oklahoma, on Michigan, 184 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: it's starting. There's there's uh, it's a little cheaper. New 185 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: York is jest store. It's gonna be another eighteen months. 186 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: So every state has their own laws. Eventually it's gonna 187 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: be federal. And once this federal, they'll change everything as well. 188 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: But right now people are going to those states, whether 189 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: the senators or you know, higher where it's you know, 190 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: it's it's beneficial. Again, you have opportunity to go into 191 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: the states and make change based on legislation that's interested 192 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: in that conservative Oklahoma, where every county votes Republicans, has 193 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: an easier process for a cannabis license to any other 194 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: New York. Yeah, that's interesting. People who have moved to 195 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: Oklahoma just to get that license, Well, I guess I 196 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: needed to do. I need to get Yeah, send people 197 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: who have moved to Oklahoma to get a license, and 198 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: I can send you. I can send you the states 199 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: and what that legislation is to see how easy it 200 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: is to do. First state, But again, Oklahoma is one 201 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: of the most friendly states to get into the game. 202 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: So as an economist, at some point, will it becomes 203 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: saturated overdone? No, I go back to the concept I 204 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier on liquor. You'll never have enough look of 205 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: people always consume it. Just will, I believe will help 206 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: become a more stable economy because you're making it legal. 207 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: The more you make it legal, the more you're able 208 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: to tax it, the more people can you can regulate 209 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: it and get people to the game. So we're trying 210 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: to teach those brothers and sisters who in the game 211 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: on the black market, flip over here and get it legally. 212 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: And because you're already making it, you're already doing it 213 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: and you can be able to have your license and 214 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: everything of that nature. So we deal a lot of 215 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: people in that nature, show them how they move from 216 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: black market to the legal market. Okay, some of the 217 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: things that you say you work on. You mentioned aspongement clinics, 218 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: cannabis hiring fairs. What what what is the cannabis hiring fair? 219 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: It is people in the cannabis industry looking for people 220 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: or to work for them. So we're gonna have an 221 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: expungement clinic right there to get your record ex sponge 222 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna have canvas companies and you know 223 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: we've done how they've been together a lot how people 224 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: to get hired in the space. So it is taking 225 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: that segment of the economy who have been this enfranchise 226 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: come get your hair cut, get your suit, get your 227 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: recordleix sponge and get a job, really changing people's lives. 228 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: But we have a couple of our partners, including a 229 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: guy they name of kob and Cooper who had life 230 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: in prison for cannabis. He was one of the last 231 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: people that Trump pardon actually on the helicopter. So he 232 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: has partnering with us UH in this this hiring event 233 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: because you just want to make sure that they can 234 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: get people back. On the other side, also creating their 235 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: own strands. We have Harry oh who started your death 236 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: row um on the piece we got a freeway, Ricky Ross. 237 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 1: We don't took all the dealers and say, if you've 238 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: made millions of dollars in the street before you went 239 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: to prison, it doesn't make sense to come out and 240 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: work at Taco Bell. That's take those skill sets, incorporate 241 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: that to the platform, make it legal and you can 242 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: you can really teach a whole lot of people uh 243 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: in just you know, it's the brothers are real and 244 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: the most loyal catch you can meet. You know, they 245 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: delivering the execute. They're sitting around complaining, crying, you know. 246 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: So side about this program, Yeah, it's it's really hot. 247 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: That's deep by man to come because now I want 248 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: to get in the business. Now, when you say jobs 249 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: hiring cannabis, can you give us a because I think 250 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: that's the part that's to disconnect for me. Well, maybe 251 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: I need to do more research on it because one 252 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: of the things that Killer Mike talks about is employing 253 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: folks from this and I when I think about going 254 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: into a dispensary, you know, I don't what they say 255 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: partake of in Canada, so I'm not that familiar with it. 256 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: But what I know is I go in and I see, 257 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: you know, just a couple of people working. So I 258 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: never saw it, and I'm glad you came to stop 259 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: by explaining is I never saw it as this major 260 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: employer like you're talking about, so because I just see 261 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: a couple of people running in and that's it, you know, 262 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: maybe the growers. So when you're saying work in the 263 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: cannabis market, what type of jobs you know are you 264 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: talking about and and what can what would you say 265 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: one dispensary owner has the ability to employ directly and 266 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: indirectly from that that one license if you have a 267 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: number on that, because I think that would be yeah, yeah, good, 268 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: good question. Both directly and indirectly. So on the indirect side, 269 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of opportunity and delivery. UH, there's a 270 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: company of work it's called Ease. They deliver every twenty 271 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: two seconds. So a lot of people don't want to 272 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: go just to dispensary and pick it out. This want 273 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: to hit their phone and have it delivered to their house. 274 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: So you've got the delivery sign, you got the tech sign. 275 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: You know, you have to do point of point of sales. 276 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: So being able to help create those and sell those 277 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: products to dispensaries, UH is a couple of jobs. Then 278 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: on the banking, since it's not federal, there's no bank 279 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: that takes the money. So you've got a lot of 280 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: cash and you've got a lot of a t m s. 281 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: But so in that industry, you have people who can 282 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: work in delivery to pick up the cash and or 283 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: delivering all the kind of point of sales systems. UH. 284 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: The a t M s things that nature because again 285 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: it's not federal, So it's a lot of direct and 286 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: indirect job outside gets growing outside of working dispensary, on 287 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: the tech side, the driving side, the plastic bags, uh, 288 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: the manufacturing pieces, everything that's needed, the paraphernalia. It's a 289 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: whole industry in itself and you don't have to touch them. 290 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: The THEO to be in the industry. No, wow, So 291 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: I guess I need to get into some type of 292 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: plastic bags. So you didn't tell me what to do. 293 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: That could be another stream of income. Yeah. We we 294 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: have my birthday party. I party with a lot of 295 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: cannabis industry vendors and they had everything. They gave away, 296 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: bonds and all kind of a little just tons of 297 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: products that are in the industry. Then you know, you've 298 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: got the edibles, You've got the gummies, You've got all 299 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: kinds of stuff. It's it's a whole virgen. We just 300 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: want to make sure the black post a part of 301 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: Do you think when federal gets involved, will that make 302 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: it worse or better? Good question. It's going to regulate, 303 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: which will help the taxes, you know for communities and 304 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: things that nature. I don't think the states then will 305 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: have as much control as they have now. One thing 306 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: I like about state government it's ran like a business, 307 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, the governor just direct orders and runs a 308 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: lack of business. So I think it's gonna be pros 309 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: and cons wants become in federal it will be able 310 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: to be regulated or what's your health taxes? I don't 311 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: think the states will have as much power they have 312 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: right now, right which can hurt when you look at 313 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: Oklahoma being you know, having more access there versus people 314 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: being able to kind of construct their laws. And that's 315 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: that's a deeper conversation political because there's always this argument 316 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: over states, you know, being in charge versus federal and 317 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: what's the big benefit. And there's a lot. From an 318 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: entrepreneur standpoint, the state government helps a whole lot, you know. 319 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: But but you know that's typically a conservative talking point 320 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: when they hear that they automatically, but it can be 321 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: it's a good thing, you know too. But then you 322 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: have people like Governor Rod the Sand you know in Florida, 323 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, kind of making his own rules up as 324 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: he goes. It's like, what do you what do you 325 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: make federal and what do you make state, and and 326 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: so when we talk about the ability to make money 327 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: like Texas, which believes in that almighty dollar, I am 328 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: a proponent and states figuring out what worship the states. 329 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm curious how I was Texas fair the Texas piece. 330 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: I think you start still middle ground. I don't think 331 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: that it has expanded as much as it should be. 332 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a little wild. You got thirty three 333 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: states who have adopted medical, you got nineteen who have 334 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: got adopted recreational. And it's still just depend in the 335 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: time frame. But but Texas is not done a whole 336 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: lot as yet. That's interesting. But the opportunities are because 337 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: as the later states come on, they have an opportunity 338 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: to look at what's been success and what has been 339 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: a negative to make their laws better. But again, it's 340 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: the key of working with either Black Caucus or those 341 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: advocates who really want to bring campus into the area. 342 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: And you know, that's that's all. Look, well, I'm really 343 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: excited about you meeting our Black Party. You know, one 344 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: of the folks that I consult with uh to talk 345 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: to those state legislatures to see how now that you 346 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: brought this up to talk about you know, what they'll 347 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: be doing as well, you know, and and what's their 348 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: legislative agenda, Because you're right, we gotta start getting more 349 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: legislative agenda on stuff that we can actually make happy. 350 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: And one thing you love make happening is money. Let's 351 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: get to the bad. Yeah, biggest legislation. I was the 352 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: keynote speaker last year at the l A c P luncheon, 353 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: and they said, make sure you're talking about voting, and 354 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about voting in business legislation, laws, the 355 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: weed pass and make black folks money. Everything's conversation with 356 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: me that you can do that, and you know people don't. 357 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: People are run to the Popublican politics. But you go 358 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 1: back to when Richard Nixon said cut the social program. 359 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: They said he was crazy, but he said also created 360 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: a hundred black millionaires frey take care of themselves and 361 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: the A A program, the S B A all came 362 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: out of Republican legislation. It's legislation that puts his business. 363 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: And when you do that, you're gonna take cre your people. 364 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: When we talk about entrepreneurship and the importance of how 365 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: that has always been the one thing that to me, 366 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: you know, when I when I look at and I'm 367 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: just using my own person experience, when I look at 368 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: my grandmother, out of the very abusive relationship, she was 369 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: a beautician. She's never worked for anybody in her life. 370 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: She had her own beauty shop. That was what allowed 371 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: her to get She swears she's a democrat. I tell 372 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: at the time, Grandma, you are the highest level of conservative. 373 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: But she doesn't get it but her which is fine, 374 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: she could be. You know, I'm independent just for a 375 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: point of clarity, but when you look at what the 376 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: decisions that she's made. Let's just look at how she's 377 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: lived her life, coming through the depression. You know, was 378 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: able to own her first home, which she still owns today. 379 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: I put enormous amount of money and it just to 380 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: keep it up because it means so much. That was her, 381 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, her opportunity for freedom, true freedom from the 382 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: abusive relationship. She's never known what it was to work 383 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: for somebody else. She's always had a beauty shop in 384 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: the back of her home. Entrepreneurship, Christian woman, you know, 385 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: church seven days a week. She gives ties ten percent. 386 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: I mean like it is literally the Bible. She she rever, 387 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, deviates from that she believes in her her face. 388 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: Her quote is sit on your own bottom. You know, 389 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: you must take care of yourself. Even now she's ninety 390 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: years old. I had to sneak to pay for some 391 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: stuff on the house because she refused, you know, to 392 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: take the money, because she was just raised with that 393 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: very entrepreneur, entrepreneur spirit, self employed, self sustainment. When we 394 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: look at Black Wall Street and Tulsa and all of 395 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: the things that really allowed us, you know, the Malcolm 396 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: makes the Black nationalist movement of really being able to 397 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 1: take care of your community through business. Why do you 398 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: think Democrats are missing the mark? Have always missed the 399 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: mark to me, on business, That's something they never ever 400 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: talk about. They talk about the social progress, which is important, 401 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: but what about the business side of things. I don't understand. 402 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: Republicans completely ignore it. They don't even try to outreach 403 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: the black folks. Democrats don't touch it at all. And 404 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: there's this black middle class. Are this black you know 405 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: sector of entrepreneurship. What we do best, I believe because 406 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: we've always had to create something out of nothing. Why 407 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: is it that they continue I don't know if you 408 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: want to tackle that from a Democrat Republican you know, Lens, 409 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: But why is it that they missed that Martin? Like 410 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: you said, talk about more voting. What if you talk 411 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: about how to get people money in their pocket, they'll 412 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: be running to the polls. So why is it? Why 413 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: don't we missed that? Mark duct what? What is it? Well, again, 414 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: when you look at the social agenda of the Democrats, 415 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: when you look at a lot of African Americans who 416 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: went to college first generation and became social scientists and 417 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: and and social majors. Our jobs were in a false economy. 418 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: It was a collocualism. So you were able to get educated, 419 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: go work for the welfare department and be able to 420 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: move yourself up. So social in the Democratic model has 421 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: been in using our minds that that's how you're able 422 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: to get money and how you get ahead. When you 423 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: look at who supports you, because African Americans come out 424 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: of basically poverty and low income areas. It was a union, 425 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: so the union supported the majority of the Democratic um 426 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: politicians that were black. So unions anti business, so you 427 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: have to go with who supports you. So if you 428 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: come from union labor, non business, social programs, and that's 429 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: been the way that you have survived, then you keep 430 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: doing that as opposed to looking at entrepreneurship and business 431 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: because it's not been a part of your your DNA. 432 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: And so that's the issue. Uh, we have to show 433 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: that this business legislation is going to help us more importantly, 434 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 1: when you look at nineteen the sixties where you had 435 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: a thousand African American politicians, now we have with ten 436 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: thousands in a business model that would create trillions. But 437 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: since the nineteen sixty four Great Society programs, we spend 438 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: twenty two trillion dollars on party. Ronald Reagan said the 439 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: War on Poverty proverty one. Because we keep doing social 440 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: we are a capitalist society. The first sentence of my book, 441 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: if you don't understand capitalism, your foreigner in your own country, 442 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: learn the language businesses, a language non emotional. Not helped 443 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: me out, not helped the little ploy kids. People don't 444 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: want to hear that. If you talk in Bunors terms, 445 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: you'll be able to get more big legislation. I think 446 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party and focus so much on social that 447 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: they have not looked at them been a smile. You're 448 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: not saying that social is not important. You're not saying 449 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: that to get explained that because I don't want people 450 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: to think that because you were the president of the 451 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: Urban League. You work with social programs, you work on chares, 452 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: you work with nonprofits. So explain how those two marry 453 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: so that they're not missing. You know what you're saying. Yes, yes, 454 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: well as as as you know. When I got to 455 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: the Urban League, I changed from social service agency to 456 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: an economic development aids to the social mission I believe 457 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: you have to do. I believe you have to create 458 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: economic be able to create business, but also helps social 459 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: programs and help people get to a point so they 460 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: can be a part of that. So mine is a 461 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: comprehensive strategy. I always tell people pus in Democrat, picus Republican, 462 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: humbers in black. If you get that agenda right, did 463 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: you're doing both economic and social with your people in mind, 464 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: then you can make a difference and make that happen. 465 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 1: So yes, I know, disregards with your programs, I just 466 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: make sure that we have a part of economic programs 467 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: to balance it so we can have the money the 468 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: businesses to hire, the people get to solved skills, etcetera. 469 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: That's deep and just going back again to you know, 470 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: me starting my business around you that program. I chose 471 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: as an entrepreneur to start a business that was a 472 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: for profit business but had a social concept. How are 473 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: we you know, how are we investing in our community 474 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: and giving prom an opportunity everybody? Because I couldn't afford 475 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: people to work for me, all of my employees became 476 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: supervisors managers. I had them go out hire people, bring 477 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: them in, but they were responsible, you know, for those 478 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: individuals as well, not just referring somebody. They became managers, 479 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: which was that you start getting more skills, and now 480 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: you have managerial skills. So it takes the consciousness of 481 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: the business person, the conscious mind of the black business 482 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: person to want to do it. It also requires me 483 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: having an opportunity to have equity and money and cash 484 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: flow that I didn't have the state afloat. And then 485 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: it requires the urban league at the time, which I 486 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: did a lot of hiring from your urban league to 487 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: go get the folks that needed the opportunities. I chose 488 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: to go to them first, opposed just go on online 489 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: and you know monster dot com and interviewing. So it 490 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: really does take and because I just have that small 491 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: example dot I live with that. That's not as a 492 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: way to brag, but it's why I'm so hard on 493 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: these damn politicians because I know that if I could 494 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: do it, if I could do it in a city 495 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: that I knew, no one, I had no family that 496 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: I just picked up the phone. Hey Drmcarthy, my name 497 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: is tass Figure. Can I sit that? Can I talk 498 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: about how we can partner. If I could do it, 499 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: why the hell y'all can't do it your paid salary, 500 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: you have the power of the pen, you have the 501 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: bullet pull pit, you have everything available you. I was 502 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: scraping pennies together to get just gas to go from 503 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: one side of the town to the other. So if 504 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: I can do it, why the hell they can't do it. 505 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: It's no excuse. You don't use the power that you have. 506 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: And that's all. We can't do it because of those Republicans. 507 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: Now y'all doing something because you keep on trying to 508 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: get the job. People spend I look at the last race. 509 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: I will send a turn just for an example, a 510 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: total of ten million dollars spent on one congressional race. 511 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: When you add in how much she spent, how much 512 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: your opponent spent how much the outside money spent ten 513 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: million dollars for seventy thousand people to come to the 514 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: polls over four hundred thousand registers. Now you you anybody 515 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: is spending that kind of money to get in the seat. 516 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: It's some power to come in that damn scene. I'm saying, 517 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna believe nothing different. There's some power. 518 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: So we have to start pulling back the curtains to 519 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: say what is it that our elected officials are doing? 520 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: Particularly are collected officials that have access to earmarks, that 521 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: have access to like you said on the other show 522 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: that we did just picking up the phone and calling somebody, 523 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: you have access to make things happen for your community 524 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: besides book book bag drives and and and bike single 525 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: drives and fish fries. That's important. But where does the 526 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: money reside? So it closes how do we hold these 527 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 1: people accountable? Uh? Or? Am I just gonna keep screaming? 528 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: And I know there are many people like me, but 529 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, Doc, it's not a lot of 530 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: folks like me that really look at things from independent perspective. 531 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: And I'm just talking about in the cable pundit world 532 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: because there's really only about thirty contributors. And I tell 533 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: people this, thirty contributors that appear daily on national cable news. 534 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: You have many people that come on and appear from 535 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: time to time, but there's only thirty of us on Fox, CNN, MSNBC, 536 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: n BNC. And I do feel I am one of 537 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: the exceptions that are that is constantly asking the question, 538 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: what about black folks? So? How do we how do 539 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: we get our people uh to see it? What? What 540 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: what your we do next? What does the person at 541 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: home do next? To say? How can I get involved? 542 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: You gave some tips and I'm asking people to go 543 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: back and listen to black and Text so that you 544 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: have to repeat that. You know, go where the where 545 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: the money is, go where the people that have the access. 546 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: But what can we do in closing this one? What 547 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: can that person do at home to advocate for the 548 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: type of legislation not just cannabis, but legislation business, legislation 549 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: that makes sense uh for their community on the state level? 550 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: What can they do uh at home? We can rally 551 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: around one initiative that helps move our people forward from 552 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: a political and economic space. The best pieture of legislation 553 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: I have seen in my career is the opportunity zone. 554 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: The Rockefeller Foundation said it's gonna be six trillion that's 555 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: gonna be transferred to urban America. Why is he great 556 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: legislation because it incentivised it capital to come to urban America. 557 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: So we need to get every black politician on in 558 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: this route of opportunity zone. And we can do that. 559 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: We can have everybody on one mission. We can get 560 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: the money transferred toility to be and we can help 561 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: our people. I've been doing positive research for the twenty 562 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: five years. The best way state you've ever seen in 563 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: my life? Well, what's your answer to that? When people 564 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: say opportunities zon is just gentrification and just moving people 565 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: out from one side of town together, what's your answer 566 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: to that? The answer is you have to be able 567 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: to go where the money is. So if they're in center, 568 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: if they're incentivizing money to come to an area, not 569 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: like the enterprise Zone and the the Empowerment Zone, the 570 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: opportunity zone has money. So they are funds that give 571 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: money to businesses both for business and real estate to 572 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: come into these opportunities zones. That's over eight thousand of 573 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: them across the country. We need to have a unified 574 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: front that every black politician and every community person needs 575 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: to be pushing this agenda. How can I get a 576 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: part of this? That's one strong piece. I believe that 577 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: we can change this, this whole urban area. But politics 578 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: and economics, well, thank you so much. I know there's 579 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: some critics with the opportunities on maybe and I'm not 580 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: a critic of it. I'm but I am gonna look 581 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: into it and with fine, because I do want to know, 582 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: you know, more pros and cons with that, just so 583 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: that we're flushing, you know, flushing that all the way out. Um. 584 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: I know for myself, you know, again having access to 585 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: that type of capital, I know what I would have done, 586 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, for I just need one literally one little 587 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: step up. I don't even so I got the hustle. 588 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: I just need the muscle and so so for me 589 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: it makes sense, but for something for others. I noticed 590 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: that a lot of the critics that I see talking 591 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: on social media don't own no business. By the way, Um, 592 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:41,479 Speaker 1: so it's usually we've got the social scientists be the leaders. 593 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: We need business people with social conscious because you think different, 594 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: you talk different. Social is always looking at what's to 595 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: give me a business is to return investment. But also 596 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: I can do good. So we need more business people 597 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: with social conscious that's right, basically what you're saying. I 598 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: used to tell people, do you sign the front of 599 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: the check at the back of the check, because it 600 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: makes a difference. It makes a differ. It's on the conversation. 601 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: And I know that type of pressure. I know that 602 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: type of pressure. I had a hundred and twenty five 603 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: employees I had to pay every twenty four hours. That's 604 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: a hell of a lot of pressure, you know, to 605 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: try to figure out what's gonna be what. So, yeah, 606 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear no talking with somebody say 607 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: on social media with all of that, all of that gibberish. 608 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, how am I gonna 609 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: make payroll? And so I you know what I do now. 610 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: I don't I see myself a boutique firm, you know, 611 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: I don't have a goal of being large again like that, 612 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: But I do sit on a friend of mine board 613 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: who has a HR firm, a sixty million dollar HR firm. 614 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: So I enjoy you know still, you know, providing that knowledge, 615 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: and that's another thing, you know, each one teach one 616 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: if you're not doing it, how can you help go 617 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: build up another black business? How can you take them 618 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: from you know, one level to the other. So, whether 619 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: it's a few clients I'm working with, I still try to, 620 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 1: you know, use whatever I know or what I can 621 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: do to help to move the needle. And the needle 622 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: really does start at the money. So before we go, 623 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: how do you feel about reparations. How does that play 624 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: into the economics. I think there is a place for it. 625 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: I believe that there needs to be something that is happening. 626 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: Let me give it a good example. Evansville, Illinois, under 627 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: their cannabis law, of the money from the taxes go 628 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: to reparation, so you can create laws and legislation that 629 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: incentivises ways to get reparation. I think that's a great model. 630 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: It's new agenda, it's new money that's coming and that 631 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: could be done in reparation. So if you have time, 632 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: please look up Evansville, Illinois and cannabis reparations. I think 633 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: that that model can be duplicated across the country. Again, 634 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: we have opportunity now to write legislation as we move 635 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: this cannabis model for because that's basically what that is 636 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: saying that the people who are affected by the Canada, 637 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: that's the benefit. The people who are affected by that 638 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,719 Speaker 1: now have access to that opportunity. Yes, but the difference 639 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: of reparations and the descendants of those who are slave 640 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: is not necessarily giving me access to an opportunity, but 641 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: more so a check um because of being a descendant. 642 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: So overall you are in favor of reparations that it 643 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: matters to you. You you want to see how that 644 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:20,439 Speaker 1: how that model because you'll you'll you'll be debating forever. 645 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: If you come with a model that can make something happening, 646 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: it can work, You can duplicate it. I'm all important, 647 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: because that's all Republicans understand about the money. How does it? 648 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: How is it gonna get a return on investment? Period? Yeah, 649 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: not just because it's just the right thing to do, 650 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: the right thing to do. Four kids together, their kids 651 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: on hern and opioid ain't caring. You gotta show the 652 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: return of investment and still have a social conscious understanding business. 653 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: I tell people I used to be an entrepreneur and 654 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm a called by capitalist understanding game. You're still I'm 655 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: a social conscience. But you know what they say, capitalism 656 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: is evil. You know they say capitalism is evil. I 657 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: don't say that's fine. I tell if God all the time. 658 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: I'll be economic miss hang out with the dirt. I'm 659 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: a palace kind of guy. I got lifestyle like I 660 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: like this thing, jazzing period Worne just before we go, 661 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 1: I want you to know he mean that you're suggisted. 662 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: Was bringing lines and tigers. Did you bring the line 663 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: to the conference? I want that's something he was gonna do. 664 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: They cut you out. They told you you wanted the lines. 665 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, we're gonna have lines. We got some 666 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: tygles bears. The said, doctor hold on that you you're 667 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: going too far. I'm says, they don't get it. They 668 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: don't get it. I'm talking about having the room. His 669 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: office was you want to talk about the collecting. I'm 670 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: talking about candle set, the move constantly, dim, you know everything, 671 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: just the jazz and music, always cool, laid back. I've 672 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: never seen him. I'm set. I've never seen him bothered. 673 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: I ruther DC McCarthy. They said, this is that, okay, cool, 674 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: cool cool. I'm talking about just never bother. If Bother 675 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: was a person, this is it, And I mean that 676 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm telling this man has been a joy to watch. 677 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: That's right. That's right, well, thank you so much of 678 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: by Where can people find you? You are in l a, 679 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: but where can people find you? Yes? So again. My 680 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: instagram is LANs dot doctor, LANs dot doctor, and my 681 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: website is www. Dr Shilver Fox with two x dot com, 682 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: w w W Global one thousand dot us. We're always 683 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: join events, uh to to help all kinds of people, 684 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: music and education, showing people in the music industry how 685 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: they can get funded as well. So we're doing quite 686 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: a bit of events. Well, thank you so much for 687 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: coming by, always busy, always moving. Thank you for being 688 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: a part of my life. You were listening to doctor 689 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: last McCarthy. Only man I know that proposed bringing Lions, 690 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 1: Tigers and band and I'm talking about real lines y'all 691 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: at the Urban League convention. All doctor hold on, that's 692 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: against the liability. All right, Thank you so much. Dr Lands. 693 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: To make sure you guys check out black in Tech again. 694 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: I will bring him back. This is my economists, my friend, 695 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: my goal get a hustler. Rodad always been supportive of 696 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: me for the last twenty years. 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