WEBVTT - BONUS* Conversations On Violence & Danger

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<v Speaker 1>What's up?

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome back to another episode of No Sellings Podcast

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<v Speaker 2>with your hosts now fuck that with your loaw glasses Malone.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't ask me no money questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Why I can't ask you no money questions?

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<v Speaker 4>Ask them all the questions. Nah fuck that, Ask him

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<v Speaker 4>all the questions and let him, you know, let him cut.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Is I didn't even have you here to ask you

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<v Speaker 2>any questions. I was gonna share a conversation with you

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<v Speaker 2>on game banging, personal politics or no overall, just overall,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I might care about your personal trip. We

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<v Speaker 2>all got our own personal trip.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just not trying to my thing right now, my microphone,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like right now, Mom is telling me to

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<v Speaker 3>stay clear of all this internet controversial bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't do that. That's not what I do.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not what no Selings is about, right, No Sillers

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<v Speaker 2>is like like a like a like a like an

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<v Speaker 2>exploration in a dark cave of culture all the time. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>And it ain't like like you see on the internet

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<v Speaker 2>people like I don't that does no good for me,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I spend more time getting in trouble for explaining

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<v Speaker 2>to people how much is like Friday versus boys in

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<v Speaker 2>the Hood. I mean, how many days it's just kicking

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<v Speaker 2>it and chilling saga. You grew up in the eighties,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what it's like, no ladies, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, it's the same thing. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>I always tell Pete this, and every time Pete is

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<v Speaker 2>on the podcast as somebody else making me think I'm crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, I don't get what the fuck everybody

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. You know what I'm saying is like, don't

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<v Speaker 2>get me wrong, Kiki, Like it was a question asked

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<v Speaker 2>to me, and this You're the perfect person I had

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<v Speaker 2>this conversation with. They wanted me to say that violence

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<v Speaker 2>is a part of game banging culture and I told

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<v Speaker 2>him it's not.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you hear how.

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<v Speaker 3>That answer was the circle?

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<v Speaker 2>But the circle is even a press, right, It's like

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<v Speaker 2>even a put on, it ain't quite what everybody make

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<v Speaker 2>it like it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Nah, But you know what, by the time a put

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<v Speaker 3>on come on, you've been involved in some shit or

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<v Speaker 3>depends on who you are, because really a put on

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<v Speaker 3>most times comes about because niggas don't like you and

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<v Speaker 3>somebody trying to bring a new nigga.

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<v Speaker 2>In and I said the same thing. I explained that,

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<v Speaker 2>like when I got put on, I don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>get put on. I was really already from the seventh right,

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<v Speaker 2>because I grew up all the hummies is my hoummies,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, even today, they put me on with

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<v Speaker 2>Moto recipes, look Jay, and then they put me on.

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<v Speaker 1>They wasn't trying to hurt me.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it was more or less them trying to

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<v Speaker 2>show me some punk shit, really being funny, and they

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't trying to knock my head off because these dudes.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been knowing these dudes since we was little. But

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to explain this to somebody that it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a part of the culture. Now, Key, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying it's not a part of the experience, saga. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying it's not part of the experience, because oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying violence isn't part of the experience of

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<v Speaker 2>being a gang member growing up, right, That's not what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you it's not a culture.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no part of this thing that says annually you're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to get your glass. Key, even even a put on,

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<v Speaker 2>even a put on is overstated and it's done and

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<v Speaker 2>properly to certain people.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, yeah, but at the same time, though, who you

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<v Speaker 3>are in your community is really gonna be based on violence,

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<v Speaker 3>very rarely is based on popularity. That's money is involved.

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<v Speaker 3>Then that's a whole other another different thing, which violence

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<v Speaker 3>still is undertone right there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not disagreeing for sure, there's a there's a benefit

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<v Speaker 2>in being a trooper for your community, right just like

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<v Speaker 2>no different than a soldier, right if you, if you

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<v Speaker 2>if it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Bench, but it's it's a blessing in the curse because

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<v Speaker 3>you can be a savage and you the niggas that

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<v Speaker 3>they donna kill, they ain't gonna fight.

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<v Speaker 2>So facts facts. So again, it's still a bunch of networking.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the people who represent here's another question, this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is a bigger conversation, right this again, this ain't

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<v Speaker 2>like a personal conversation with Kicky logo and glasses and.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying and Pete and Cauzo like. This is a different conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>This is about me trying to explain to people all

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<v Speaker 2>our days when I saw you growing up, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>by the time at this point you've grown man, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? You got your you live with

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<v Speaker 2>you and your lady living on the end. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a fight every day. It's not a shooting every day.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's overstated that that don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean to me.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I was saying, Keith, be Cuz, like

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<v Speaker 2>the moments that it happened become a looming presence on

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<v Speaker 2>our existence, like today Moto got killed. I remember being

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<v Speaker 2>a kid when Nut got killed, like and I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>even like off the porch like that, but I remember

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<v Speaker 2>how everybody felt, and those looming presence days loom over

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<v Speaker 2>your head. But for like for months, I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't notice it in real time, right like when Moto

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<v Speaker 2>got killed. I did notice it in real time, but

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize how I was hurt all the way

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<v Speaker 2>probably until two thousand and eight, and that Nigga got

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<v Speaker 2>killed in two thousand or ninety nine or ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. But it was such a

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<v Speaker 2>traumatic situation that you don't take it like that, so

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<v Speaker 2>you still live your life and find it some level

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<v Speaker 2>of joy and just existing, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>But I really tried to tell them, like I get

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<v Speaker 2>why even some people that's homies they feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>a part. It's like violence, And I'm like, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>a part of the culture, even even like a discipline, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like a DP is it Is it violent to whoop

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<v Speaker 2>your kid? No, but it's but it's violence, But is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think it's So it's prison violence.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you ain't gonna get in prison and survived.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, nose not not not. What's happening sometimes people fighting?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, is somebody putting you in prison for committing

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<v Speaker 2>to crime violence even though it hurts you.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, that's not violent, but it's restricting you.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's finance as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but right, so when so let's have a greater conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>even greater than that.

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<v Speaker 1>No ceilings. What's haddening?

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<v Speaker 2>Me and my brother Peter in the house, got my

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<v Speaker 2>old g homy kik loko, my nigga, saga, my brother saga.

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<v Speaker 1>Cousin, cousin, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>Chef, bro chef chef like cook fire chef, cousin, chef,

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<v Speaker 2>cousin chef. So it's important because this Black History Month,

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<v Speaker 2>we did a conversation about our teenage using the N

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<v Speaker 2>word last week.

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<v Speaker 1>This time we're doing a game bang. We're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop the following week.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to get your set up in the studio

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<v Speaker 2>so you could be on the hip hop when I

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<v Speaker 2>think people would love to hear your opinion on hip hop.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know people have been reaching out to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you about gangs and stuff like that, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>not what Like I said, again, that's not what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I be really trying to.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell people some of the ways they see how we

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<v Speaker 2>grow up in this street urban culture. Life is confusing,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I was last week, was talking to people

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<v Speaker 2>and I was telling them, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Friday is a game.

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<v Speaker 2>Maker movie, but nobody thought it was because they only

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<v Speaker 2>think of Ricky getting killed in Boys in the Hood.

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<v Speaker 1>That's game banging, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>They only think of the violent parts of it as

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<v Speaker 2>game bang. Like somebody you know getting gain a vengeance

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<v Speaker 2>for her friend, or somebody going too far over a conflict.

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<v Speaker 1>They only think that as gang banging. But can you know.

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<v Speaker 2>More than me that really you don't seen all kind

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<v Speaker 2>of Let's even pull our prospective neighborhoods out.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about just other neighborhoods.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of the time, people just building with each other

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, They just building with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, like you you had a chance to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Hbone Homeboys, right homes that it ain't a fight every day.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a bunch of people building and trying to figure

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<v Speaker 2>stuff out together. Now, I'm not painting it in the

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<v Speaker 2>positive light. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying factually,

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening. Factually, even when you saw me as a

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<v Speaker 2>little kid, nobody was kicking my ass every day. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to figure out life. I'm trying to forry

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<v Speaker 2>how to make some money. I'm trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>how to not get fucked over by the monas of

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<v Speaker 2>the carvers. I'm trying to figure out how to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the pink stow and niggas don't want to kick

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<v Speaker 2>my ass and give me no respect. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>build a car. All of these same things are the

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<v Speaker 2>daily occurrences. Now, there are the moments you know we're

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<v Speaker 2>being the seventh Street could have got me killed. You

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<v Speaker 2>have more apart when the largos get there's times, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's not all the time, even when the conflict with

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<v Speaker 2>your hommies is not all the time. And I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't like that people painting like it's this savage thing.

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<v Speaker 2>All the time I told the story, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna sound hello weird. There was a time where

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<v Speaker 2>it was a specific gang in Washington had grenades, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the gang, and they were selling greenades. And I remember

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<v Speaker 2>I went to my older hommies. It was like, Man,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna buy two and we're gonna throw them at

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<v Speaker 2>these niggas. The look of disgust on them niggas face

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<v Speaker 2>when I said that, this moon man, you're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>What imagine if I was like, you know, we had

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<v Speaker 2>our social issues with the carvers, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all finna go poison the water at the pool, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. Like so when they go swimming

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<v Speaker 2>the next day, think about how think think about how

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<v Speaker 2>Plucked would have looked at me? What about the game

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<v Speaker 2>and told you that? Because So to anybody out there

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<v Speaker 2>that don't know Key Loko, that'show on the West Side

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<v Speaker 2>he from a gang roll the thirties, that's where he

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<v Speaker 2>grew up his whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where he's from.

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<v Speaker 2>But Kiki, as an adult man, he got him and

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<v Speaker 2>his old lady was together. They had a house and

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<v Speaker 2>watched so Keiki has known me since I was probably twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine glasses at eighteen where it cames like, Yea'm finn

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<v Speaker 2>to go buy this poison. I'm gonna put it at

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<v Speaker 2>the pool and Carver. So now when they go swimming

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<v Speaker 2>in the summer, you feel me, they gonna die.

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<v Speaker 4>They gonna that's work, bro, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine if I'd be like me, I'm gonna go to

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<v Speaker 2>the remember they had the little hot links and chicken lynks.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go poison to supply meat so that way

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<v Speaker 2>the meat that that did get disseminated throughout the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>You would have been looking at me crazy as fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>You might have punched me in the fucking face. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how violent it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Not right.

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<v Speaker 1>Violence is a real thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And don't get me wrong, by the simple definition like racism,

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<v Speaker 2>like me and Pete talk about it. The simple definition

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<v Speaker 2>of racism right big on me is okay, if you

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<v Speaker 2>discriminate against somebody, or you think superior or inferior based

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<v Speaker 2>on somebody based on their.

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<v Speaker 1>Race, means you're racist.

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<v Speaker 2>But we know when we use a turd racist were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about a much stronger systemic issue that allows you

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of oppress people.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, we don't mean that basic Western version.

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<v Speaker 2>So like when we say violence, I'm not talking about

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<v Speaker 2>are there conflicts where you have to fight somebody. There's

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<v Speaker 2>conflicts where people decide to settle disputes. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean through through permanent solutions. I mean permanent solutions

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<v Speaker 2>may be death. I'm saying violence for real, if that

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense, Peach.

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<v Speaker 7>Real quick question though, just to try to navigate a

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<v Speaker 7>little bit of that. You started off with a list

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<v Speaker 7>of things that defined kind of your lifestyle coming up, right,

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<v Speaker 7>and it didn't involve violence, but you mentioned the looming

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<v Speaker 7>threat of violence in the first three things that you said, what.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean, Well, so you see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I'm saying, but this is because my brain

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<v Speaker 2>works this way, because I'm like, wait a minute, you

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<v Speaker 2>talk about when I was talking about poisoning the meat

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>Before that, like the first like the opening sentence, oh

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<v Speaker 7>put on and stuff like that before after that, but

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<v Speaker 7>you were saying, like, you know, going to wherever and

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<v Speaker 7>not getting jumped by the mona parks or not having

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<v Speaker 7>to deal with or logos or logos which everyone's over there,

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<v Speaker 7>and you know you said, like going to the this

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<v Speaker 7>store or that place or whatever, just to go to

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<v Speaker 7>do what you know, to get the hamburger, have a

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<v Speaker 7>good time, or whatever is you're trying to do. But

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<v Speaker 7>you preceded each of those sentences with or close these

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<v Speaker 7>sentence with the suggestion of a potential threat of violence,

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<v Speaker 7>even though that the saying even didn't happen, but it's

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<v Speaker 7>predicated on them.

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<v Speaker 2>Even those are overstated, right, those are over sales right

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<v Speaker 2>where we just what he's saying is because I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>that that means when I went to Mona Park to

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<v Speaker 2>play basketball, go swimming, was I always worried about getting jumped? No,

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<v Speaker 2>I probably never worried about getting jump because by the

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<v Speaker 2>time I would have got jumped, I knew not to

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<v Speaker 2>take my andset there.

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<v Speaker 1>When in those moments, those is bad moments. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>when when.

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<v Speaker 2>You know something happened between somebody from your community and

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<v Speaker 2>somebody from their community had an issue. Yeah, that might

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<v Speaker 2>not be the best time to go to the park.

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<v Speaker 2>That might not be the time. You know what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying that that's probably the wrong time because people gonna

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<v Speaker 2>affiliate you with the person that you you know that

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<v Speaker 2>you spend all your time with so. But no, if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm being honest, there was no real looming presence of

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<v Speaker 2>me walking to the pig store in the Imperial Courts

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<v Speaker 2>and randomly people jumping on me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not impossible, but it wasn't probable, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's trying to figure out, like within the spectrum of.

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<v Speaker 3>Not talking on that money what you said, let me

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<v Speaker 3>add this to that. I heard, I hear what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>He did say that. Let me add to that. Even

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<v Speaker 3>though he said for him it wasn't necessarily looming, but

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<v Speaker 3>let me say this, he still knew that it was

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<v Speaker 3>a possibility. And that's what the stick mind is being

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<v Speaker 3>put because really, unbeknownst to our parents and anybody this

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<v Speaker 3>in the gang culture, they're not they're lying. The most

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<v Speaker 3>times they were, really the most volent times were school,

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<v Speaker 3>because shit happened to school on the way to school,

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<v Speaker 3>on the way hall from school that unbeknownst to our

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<v Speaker 3>parents never knew ever happen in niggas garages and all

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<v Speaker 3>kinds of crazy ship. That's that's probably how you started

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<v Speaker 3>affiliating with the community because of stuff like that, and

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<v Speaker 3>then because you knew when she was in certain ship

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Be Yeah, And and I don't have nothing to do

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<v Speaker 2>with gangs as much as just the nature of poverty.

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<v Speaker 2>And what he's saying, Pete, is that's why people end

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<v Speaker 2>up getting in games. It's because you're just in this

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<v Speaker 2>poor situation where things people people shout out to the

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<v Speaker 2>home because I just told me raise his own chickens,

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<v Speaker 2>be slaughtering deers and ship to eat and all that. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>But it's the same thing, right, It's like like for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason and the wild things pray on the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you got rid of he said, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>if you got all the grocery stores, Pete, what would

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<v Speaker 2>what would this America be?

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<v Speaker 5>Like we go back, we would have.

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<v Speaker 1>Two things.

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<v Speaker 6>You're gonna be eat off the land. After that, you're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna have to eat off the land.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you could do it, you could do it,

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<v Speaker 4>then you're gonna be surviving and you're gonna be throw here.

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<v Speaker 1>You're about to go crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying. Yeah, And it'll be violence. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's what that's the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not about. And it's like separations. It's just the

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<v Speaker 6>circumstances that create this.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I'm saying, is that is the jungle violence.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the nature of where they stay.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the nature where they live. Here's the thing. It

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<v Speaker 6>depends on what we're doing at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm y'all because y'all, Mike will come through it one

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<v Speaker 2>time and I can't separate your vocals.

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<v Speaker 8>People think about it like in the wild, if something

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<v Speaker 8>is taken like you you may be a mom and

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<v Speaker 8>you got your ducks or something like that, and all

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<v Speaker 8>in the pond and the big ass fish come up

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<v Speaker 8>and smack and eat one of your babies. That's the

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<v Speaker 8>nature of your life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not violent. That's not violence.

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<v Speaker 6>That's that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>What I'm saying is when we classifying something, let's are

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<v Speaker 4>we just it's violent. It's a violent act. And when

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<v Speaker 4>we're saying violence, so it's violent. Look, this is what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying. Like an eruption, you know, a violent eruption,

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<v Speaker 4>It just is what it is. It's not that we're

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<v Speaker 4>trying to pervert it and say this is a bad

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<v Speaker 4>thing that's what happens in it.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just more like this is just very this is

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<v Speaker 4>this is an active nature that has a violence to it.

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<v Speaker 6>But that is a degree that we're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Negative loans with the word violence.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that, and that's important right whereas like we're

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<v Speaker 2>saying unnatural or unnecessary occurrences right when we say vioce. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>violence is very simple as just something that. But if

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<v Speaker 2>racism is simply oh, if you judge somebody either be

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<v Speaker 2>inferior or you're superior based off race, that's not how

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<v Speaker 2>we understand true implication of racism. So what I'm saying violent,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying can something happened action and they cause

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<v Speaker 2>pain purposely? Is it a necessary action? Is it an

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<v Speaker 2>unnecessary action? It's a necessary action. Like again, a wolf

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<v Speaker 2>eating a deer to me, I wouldn't consider that viobing.

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<v Speaker 5>But the occurrence nature outside of humanity are very hard

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<v Speaker 5>to find it.

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<v Speaker 7>So again the same way as like like humans and

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<v Speaker 7>dolphins I believe are the only two animals known to science.

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<v Speaker 5>That have sexual intercourse recreationally.

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<v Speaker 7>Similarly, human beings are only very very rare case like

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<v Speaker 7>if wolves like this happens, when they reintroduce the wolves

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<v Speaker 7>into the Rockies, they would get into confined areas where

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<v Speaker 7>there would be livestock, and they would just start killing

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<v Speaker 7>all the livestock because they just see one and they

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<v Speaker 7>think of it as opportunity, whereas in reality, the rest

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<v Speaker 7>of them would be able to run away. They would

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<v Speaker 7>kill the one they could get and eat it there.

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<v Speaker 7>But since they can't run away, they just kill the ones.

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<v Speaker 7>See the next one killed, you know? So then and

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<v Speaker 7>that's an even because the confine that's unnatural.

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<v Speaker 6>So in.

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<v Speaker 7>The state of nature, there's really no other species that

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<v Speaker 7>does have superfluous violence in its existence other than us.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well what about I was going to say, That's

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<v Speaker 4>what I was going to say. So, how does you said,

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<v Speaker 4>a lion killing the deer?

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<v Speaker 6>How would it? How would it kill it? Right? Grabs

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<v Speaker 6>it by the neck, just chase it down, dive on it, clawed.

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<v Speaker 4>To feel like like either the suffocates I saw the

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<v Speaker 4>suffocates or leads it out right?

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<v Speaker 6>All right?

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<v Speaker 4>So is this violent for the hyaenas they chase down

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<v Speaker 4>the ox, grab them by the nuts, take them down

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<v Speaker 4>and eat them from the back kinds they have to

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<v Speaker 4>do to get that much meat?

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<v Speaker 6>Is that violent? Though? This is when they could kill

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<v Speaker 6>it another way?

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<v Speaker 5>They can't kill it another way. And what's the definition

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<v Speaker 5>of violence?

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<v Speaker 2>Is the question you have to bleed And that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good point. He brings up a good point. What's the

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<v Speaker 2>definition of violence? And that's my point to humanity, we're

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<v Speaker 2>not in nature, they are necessary violent acts or what we.

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<v Speaker 1>Would call violent acts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, then I'm separating it key from how we grew

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<v Speaker 2>up because a lot of people feel like again, like

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<v Speaker 2>I heard people recently refer to game Bag as a

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<v Speaker 2>serial killer, and I'm like, a serial killer used to

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<v Speaker 2>mean more like now they take the definition.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, if you killed six people, give me your

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<v Speaker 1>serial killer.

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<v Speaker 2>But we wouldn't call the soldier who was in he

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<v Speaker 2>did six different tours a serial killer.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a lack of respect.

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<v Speaker 4>On wars, Yeah, like that World Wars.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the same. I mean, you just you're just classifying

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<v Speaker 6>the same.

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<v Speaker 1>But it matters.

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<v Speaker 2>It matters in prestige, it matters in respect, it matters

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<v Speaker 2>in society.

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<v Speaker 6>It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 8>And the same way you're saying in the same way

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<v Speaker 8>you're saying, oh, well, is that violent?

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<v Speaker 5>That the hyena grab.

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<v Speaker 9>That that that bore whatever, body balls and what's it

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<v Speaker 9>cause it is it violent? For me to set in

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<v Speaker 9>a fucking tree stand where he can't see me, and

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<v Speaker 9>they're just lollygagging on their day and I'm sitting here

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<v Speaker 9>with my four fifty and our blasted ass and he

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<v Speaker 9>drops right there and they didn't even know I was there.

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<v Speaker 8>Say that violent because I'm I'm hunting to eat too.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I get what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 4>You're saying violence in the sense of the bad act

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<v Speaker 4>is a negative connotation to it. No, you're hunting, You're

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<v Speaker 4>going to get food. I know exactly. That's why it's

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<v Speaker 4>all in the same. That's what I'm saying. So when

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying violent, I'm not putting the connotation on it,

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<v Speaker 4>the negative aspect of it, like this is a bad act.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying what the nature of it is the same,

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<v Speaker 4>like oh, this is hot, this is cold, like when

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<v Speaker 4>when when the volcano erupts, It is common to to

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<v Speaker 4>to classify it or describe it as That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying that. I'm agreeing with y'all on Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not a bad act. It's not this negative thing,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's it's so so when you're saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's violence a part of the gang culture. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>agree with that in that because of what violence is,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I'm saying. It's like, it's like, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it's aspects of life, but when you come to like

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<v Speaker 4>the gang culture and in different ways that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>things can be perverted just on the pursuit of whatever

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<v Speaker 4>you think you're pursuing. Where that just life, it's an

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<v Speaker 4>aspect of life. You can look at the dude, the CEO.

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<v Speaker 4>He not from no gang. He was walking down the

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<v Speaker 4>street about to go to a conference, and.

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<v Speaker 2>And you see a population of people identifying life right right.

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<v Speaker 2>You see a population of people identifying with this life

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<v Speaker 2>based off of what they feel like they deny. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so again I agree, violence is a perception thing once

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<v Speaker 2>you get past the killing unnecessary, I think is what

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<v Speaker 2>violence is. When we talk about killing, like if somebody's

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<v Speaker 2>finna blow my head off and I shoot them, I

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<v Speaker 2>just wouldn't relate that to violence as simple like the

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<v Speaker 2>it's a violent act. I get it, but the connotation

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<v Speaker 2>that comes with the term violence is different.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what I was saying.

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<v Speaker 6>I get that. Yeah, I totally agree with that though.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like, but if you think about it most days,

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<v Speaker 2>Like right, you only get one put on?

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<v Speaker 1>You only get one put on? Yeah, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, and if you're in good standings, if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>be no buster, you stand up for yourself and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't let people just run you over, that probably be

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<v Speaker 2>the only time your homies beat you up.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, the homies don't beat you up annually.

0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:21.680
<v Speaker 2>You don't have a foot on celebration on September ninth,

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<v Speaker 2>kick your ass, that would be time to get up

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<v Speaker 2>and just.

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<v Speaker 6>Make it look crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Even even like I said, the DP is it's all

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<v Speaker 2>of this stuff is supposed to be done with love.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't quite know what's happening that makes people think

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<v Speaker 2>I'm crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get it because it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know, like there is don't get me

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<v Speaker 2>wrong again, Pete. There are some unsavory characters, but I

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<v Speaker 2>can't imagine even people before that though I would be

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<v Speaker 2>worried about going. I remember we start going to Victoria Park.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you grew up in so obviously everybody know

0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:06.080
<v Speaker 2>my story. My dad mom broke up when I was three.

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:09.240
<v Speaker 2>My dad moved to watch with his new wife. My

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<v Speaker 2>mom stayed in competence, so I experienced both life equal.

0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 2>I would go to a Victoria Park. That's whereverybody from

0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:19.879
<v Speaker 2>cont to go swimming at because really no crip parks

0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:24.160
<v Speaker 2>had a pool. Only pool at one park, right, which

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:26.520
<v Speaker 2>is looters. I mean, that's that I could think of.

0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:29.320
<v Speaker 2>There's probably more. I just a Mona, there's a Carver,

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<v Speaker 2>but that was like far out, so everybody would go

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<v Speaker 2>to Victoria Park because it was close. I never thought

0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.200
<v Speaker 2>it was no problem about going to Victoria Park until

0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 2>the day Victoria Park, you know what I mean, Like

0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:43.560
<v Speaker 2>niggas was from the Russians because we wasn't from Carson

0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:45.000
<v Speaker 2>and they wasn't no game members.

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<v Speaker 6>That's crazy.

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:48.440
<v Speaker 2>That was just some poor bullshit like the poor kids

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:49.800
<v Speaker 2>up here swimming in our pool.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>For real, like you with violence, We got a gun

0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:59.480
<v Speaker 2>and shit, I got a gun after that, right, I

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 2>got a gun because after that the seven Old set

0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:04.600
<v Speaker 2>after the US and seven o's. It's cool now, but

0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:06.480
<v Speaker 2>back then, them niggas pulled a tech out on us

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 2>and stuck it out the window.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thirteen.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's wild.

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Work, I mean, and I remember we went back up there.

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:14.879
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even want to go back swimming up there

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:16.960
<v Speaker 2>until I turned about sixteen. I got a license and

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.720
<v Speaker 2>I had a gun. Them niggas tried to chase us

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:21.159
<v Speaker 2>and beat us up, and we got the popping on

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:23.080
<v Speaker 2>them niggas out the window, even at sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I go three years later. So I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Like again, it's like the pursuit of life.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, it's like so violence wouldn't be considered, so you wouldn't.

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't even. I wouldn't even. That wasn't even no

0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 2>game maker ship, right. I was just some y'all ain't

0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 2>from around here ship.

0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:40.520
<v Speaker 6>Right.

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:43.399
<v Speaker 2>We didn't say we was from some community that they

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<v Speaker 2>don't get along with, or we just from any community

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<v Speaker 2>for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But they didn't even hit us up. That's wild. Just

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<v Speaker 1>get them niggas.

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<v Speaker 6>Just Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I remember one time this is we was in

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:57.160
<v Speaker 4>the we was all in the Denny's off of Paramount.

0:24:57.240 --> 0:24:59.679
<v Speaker 4>This is when after a show, and it was like

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<v Speaker 4>right when it was this new you know, new young.

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 6>Game they had came. It was coming up in the

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:08.639
<v Speaker 6>Long Beach and uh they rolled right by. Huh was

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 6>it two years who?

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:13.679
<v Speaker 4>No, it was the it was the Uh they hit

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 4>us up with with the babies.

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 6>Babies.

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<v Speaker 2>They all hit us, they all hit us up when

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 2>they first they first started. Yeah, and nigga from babies

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 2>is what about?

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Probably probably psych is probably not the first generation baby,

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, is he is he baby? I don't think

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 2>baby young not babies. Babies might be like thirty five.

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<v Speaker 4>Not that I'm not that I'm not babies. Yeah, baby

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 4>from babies. No babies, babies, Nah, not like that. Not

0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 4>you gotta trade, you gotta you gotta ask him.

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:47.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't even speak on speak for both of them

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:50.360
<v Speaker 6>on the story.

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<v Speaker 4>But but as far as that, the story was like

0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 4>we were just chilling and it was just a moment

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 4>of you know, these people, you know, you're chilling car works,

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:02.359
<v Speaker 4>rows by, and it just you know, we just minding

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 4>our business. And then we just got you know, they

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 4>got hit us up and we was just looking at it.

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 4>But the but the response it wasn't like a violent response.

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:12.919
<v Speaker 4>It was a you laughed. Actually, it was like these

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:15.400
<v Speaker 4>little young niggas out here crazy right right. And then

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:17.919
<v Speaker 4>everybody else at the table and everybody went about their business.

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 4>So it's like when it comes to that violent nature,

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 4>it's like when the stakes are high, you're going Sometimes

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 4>it happens, I ain't gonna knock it.

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 6>Some shit happens, like ship should go up.

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 4>But for the most part, it's like stakes are high,

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.880
<v Speaker 4>and you really it's more of a life situation than

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 4>it is just niggas is going out trying to be

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 4>the most monstrous. Yeah, I'm gonna destroy your mom's house.

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna destroy this. Someone destroy that, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know real quick?

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<v Speaker 2>Manny How a baby started and what like like late nineties,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty two thousands, it came from babies, right sight is

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<v Speaker 2>a young.

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<v Speaker 1>Fred?

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<v Speaker 2>Fred is from young too, So babbies is what thirty

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<v Speaker 2>four oldest?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe like.

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<v Speaker 6>Two thousand and one two so.

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<v Speaker 1>The oldest baby.

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 2>So the oldest baby's gonna be a nigga about thirty

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<v Speaker 2>four thirty five and that's.

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<v Speaker 1>The oldest yep.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I ain't think babies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, Okay, my nigga, I hit you back.

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.160
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, shout out to psych and shout out the tray shot.

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 6>So no.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like, I guess what I've been trying to

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 2>convey to people is the experience saying what everybody wanted

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 2>to be. That's not to say I'm saying it's not

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:31.680
<v Speaker 2>a traumatic experience, Kiki, like growing up poor. I'm saying

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 2>it's not what they wanted to be. It's not quite

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 2>what they make it out to be. And this being

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 2>a game maker, growing up around game baggers, my whole life,

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 2>all that is not what they make it to be.

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:49.400
<v Speaker 2>And when you start to suggest real violent acts, most

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 2>people are gonna check you. Right now, I'm sure I

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:53.399
<v Speaker 2>had a homeboy and maybe if i'd told crazy because

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:55.880
<v Speaker 2>that he'd I'm like, fuck it because he was actually

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 2>like really like on some shit like that, Like that

0:27:58.520 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 2>was one hummy that was on some shit.

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 3>See, I'm not gonna speak on watching politics, but you know,

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 3>I know people that's skin about some violence on some

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 3>crazy shit.

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 2>No, no, it's always a homie like that. But that's

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 2>not the culture. That's not the culture of a rolling thirty.

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 2>That's not the culture of a seventh Street. That's not

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 2>the culture of a West Side eighty or insane the like.

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 2>We're not taught at this the innate behavior. Now, we're

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:36.640
<v Speaker 2>taught that these are the responses to to offenses, right,

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 2>but we're not taught like, you know what, key, you

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 2>got to go kill somebody on Thursday, Friday, Saturday something

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 2>and the person like the movie New Jack City, but

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 2>they shot that nigga, Mama.

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>That's violent. If you shoot a motherfucker that's trying to

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>kill you.

0:28:56.200 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I get it. Yes, by definition, that is violence. But

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying we need to get real with that definition.

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Like like we're talking about right now with cousin.

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 7>How about this, you know we just discussed a few

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:14.959
<v Speaker 7>minutes ago, how like maybe the creation of gangs is

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 7>predicated on the potential for violence at and to and

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 7>from school, right, some people sure to a degree, Perhaps

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 7>maybe a better word than violence That is a pretty

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 7>gratuitous word. Maybe maybe danger might be a better term.

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Definitelyous elements, Yeah.

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 7>Or is it might not define It's not the action

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 7>you're participating in and pursuing it every hour of every day.

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 7>But it is a consciousness and it's an underpinning.

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 6>It's just on the spectrum of danger.

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 2>The possibility of suffering harm or injury? Is that my

0:29:57.680 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 2>mind state every day?

0:29:58.600 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 6>No?

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>But I could be ignorant, So you're probably right.

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 2>Do you think when you was growing up he you

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 2>felt like you could suffer harm and injury every day?

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 1>That was a possibility. Yeah, so yeah, he probably felt

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>like that.

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 4>I felt like, but I don't even bang and I

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 4>feel like that, So what does that mean?

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Really? Y'all just felt like y'all was gonna get harmed

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 1>being where y'all was at.

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 6>Well, I just I don't feel like that. I don't

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 6>feel like harmed.

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 4>I feel like more so, the world is what it is,

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 4>so I'm gonna protect myself.

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 6>No, no, not the possibility, you know what I'm saying anywhere?

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, I.

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Said not that I'm saying. But I didn't grow.

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 2>I didn't walk down to seven thinking I could suffer

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 2>harm every day. I just didn't see it that way.

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's good that was pulled over your eyes, but

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 3>you was in constant danger every day.

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 6>Damn level. That's real life. That's real life too. I

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 6>definitely I can.

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 4>I can recall moments fel that way all over all around.

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 2>The moments that's crazy, the moments that I knew. I knew,

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 2>like when shit happened with nothing and Lorgo, I knew

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 2>at that point and zone. There was moments that I

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 2>knew that was lingering. But I just felt I never

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 2>felt as comfortable as I did being on the seven

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 2>or being in the forums, like even out here, like

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 2>I always feel like this is gonna sound weird, Like

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's the same looming presence that I

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 2>felt in Watch until the thing is, I don't have

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 2>those moments where it's on with them or them or that,

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. It's just like you know

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, it is.

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 1>What it is.

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe this is where that math part come into too,

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 2>a math part of it all. Did you ever feel

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 2>a looming presence you never thought nothing will happen to you?

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Peter in Newport?

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 6>Not much.

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 7>No, there's certain I mean sort of like that scuffle

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 7>or some nonsense, But no, I mean I don't cruise

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 7>around with that thought in my mind. Though when I

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 7>go to other places, I have a different sense of

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 7>conscious you know, awareness.

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 1>So maybe that's the thing.

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's just based off of that, like you just

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 2>feel like something can and always will, it could happen.

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that now.

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 6>So do you think you felt so?

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 4>Were you saying like you felt like a sense of

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 4>protection that's why didnt feel like nothing's gonna happen to you?

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Or do you feel like it was comfortable with Black people.

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but that's I think that's because you saw the community.

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 6>That's that's what you see.

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 4>You see community, that's true, and then you see what

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 4>it is and it's like you don't see you see

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 4>him as aunts and uncles, you see him as cousins,

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 4>and then you don't really see it exactly. And it's

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 4>the first time I'm not thinking about it, like I'm

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:40.479
<v Speaker 4>about to be in trouble.

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 2>The first time I got jump was at Monta Park.

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think it was gonna happen. What is playing basketball?

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I would have went anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody else was telling me that that people be so

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 1>scared to live in the community.

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<v Speaker 6>I wasn't ever scared, though.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't recall that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think I met nobody in my whole

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 2>life that was like, man, I'm trying to make it

0:32:57.680 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 2>out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, don't let me wrong. Everybody want nobody

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 1>want to be broke.

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:07.719
<v Speaker 2>But I never heard heard, no homie ever confided me like, man,

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 2>I need to make it out of here.

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I need to get away from me here. Man, I

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be here. I never had that key.

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 4>You mean, nobody wants to make it out of where,

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 4>like out ofots really like just not really nobody.

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Never I just was telling somebody that, like, I never

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 2>heard nobody's like I'm trying to make it out the hood.

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 1>The hood was just that.

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 5>More emblematic than geographical and the expression see.

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 2>What you're saying, but I'm saying I never heard nobody

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 2>do that though, Like I only heard people say they

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 2>want to make some money.

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I think they wanted nicer things. But I never heard

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>people people say they want to make it out of Michigan.

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 6>Bro, I'm really small. That's what I'm saying. That people are.

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 5>Sure from I mean, but it's not hard to make

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 5>it out.

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 8>It's just the fact that you just, I mean, some

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 8>people just want to be around their family for the

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 8>most part and just don't know how they get away.

0:33:57.360 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not from no big place, bro.

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<v Speaker 9>It's just even while I went back, it's because you know,

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 9>home is always going to be home.

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 4>People want, But do you ever have you run into

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 4>like people they leave he said.

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 2>What he's saying is different. It is because they're trying

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 2>to make it out of a small town in a

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:14.359
<v Speaker 2>big city.

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you feel me that, Like it's you're you're you're

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 8>gonna want to experience like I said, Shoot, I mean

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:20.959
<v Speaker 8>obviously you got grand rapping in the Kalama Zoo.

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 5>I mean, but I'm three hours from Detroit.

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 6>Are you for.

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 5>An hour from the western side of Michigan?

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm based at the bottom right around by it.

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 6>I'm about an hour from western.

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 2>H Did you ever had that thought, Key that you

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 2>want to make it out? No, I just want to

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 2>make money, right.

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to be able to survive and take

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 3>care of myself and they stay alive. Because it was

0:34:56.320 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 3>a dangerous time, you know, in the age you know, y'all.

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Time definitely is a lot of dangerous than marrows.

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying. You could have been on the bus stop

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:07.839
<v Speaker 3>it's been walking to and pro. You could have been

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 3>at the mall. You could have been you know, he

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 3>could have been anywhere. You could have been somebody at

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 3>your friend house in another whole different community. It's sitting

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 3>outside with him and some shit happened.

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know about that. So the eighties was different.

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:27.879
<v Speaker 2>They got some money and people got some different type

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 2>of guls and people just went crazy. I always think

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:33.359
<v Speaker 2>that was more about like people fighting for community and

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.359
<v Speaker 2>having too much money and now having access. I read

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 2>this story about some dude that was from the West Side.

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 1>He was a don move and so they robbed him

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:46.240
<v Speaker 1>for a pair of rim I think it was Dayton's

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>or something.

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 2>But he was like the first person that went to

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 2>jail for killing people with a oozy or something. It

0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 2>was like a crazy story though. Did he wasn't off

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Comfort Boulevard. No, This was in south central Soral.

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 4>Was a shooting off of I used to stayle Cuver.

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:04.759
<v Speaker 4>It was a shooting right off of Compton Boulevard. An

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 4>occasion the liquor store.

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 1>It was a shooting.

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 2>It's like one of the first liquor store. Now is

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 2>it occasion or that's what the court building now it's

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 2>past the case Orleander.

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 4>Whatever, it's Condon Boulevard right across the street from that

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 4>a n p M from that arch Logic Boulevard go

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:29.840
<v Speaker 4>the same way. Yeah yeah, but right now it's the cleaners.

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 4>But it used to be a liquor store. That's right

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 4>the court, out of court. But it's a couple of blocks,

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 4>A couple of blocks yeah west, A couple of blocks west.

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 1>So it is Compton, yeah, Leander because bear is where

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:45.760
<v Speaker 1>it's not what is I used to have a house.

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:53.279
<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, yeah, uh that's uh Palmers Yeah yeah, yep.

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 6>So like that was like one of the first movies.

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 7>Like North South Compton Avenue the l a one that

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 7>ends into Centennial. It doesn't go on the south end

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 7>of the high school like dead ends into it and

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:05.799
<v Speaker 7>that's the end of it.

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 5>But the.

0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Right exactly. Yeah, Corton Boulevard east to west. Compton Avenue

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 1>goes south.

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:14.799
<v Speaker 5>And north, but it doesn't go south of Centennial.

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>No, Compon Avenue don't go through Compton.

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it goes too not through it stopped right there.

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 4>Turned into Rodondo. Oh, Compton Avenue turns to Centennial.

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:29.400
<v Speaker 1>It's Compton Avenue.

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 2>So like like when you come to watch Compton Avenue

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:35.360
<v Speaker 2>go the same way, like like like Wilmington.

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:40.240
<v Speaker 5>Like Central between Wimington and Central.

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Ye north South yeah yeah. So I just I just

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:49.359
<v Speaker 2>it's just hard to explain this. And and again, I

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 2>think the presence of those days are so looming, and

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 2>the presence of those days are so looming that they're overstated.

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:58.879
<v Speaker 1>A lot of times. Again, I'm not saying go join

0:37:58.960 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>the gang or this.

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:03.840
<v Speaker 2>That third I'm just telling you we're not as horrible

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:08.359
<v Speaker 2>in our lives and as miserable as it seems. That's

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:10.760
<v Speaker 2>what I think I'll be trying to express more than anything,

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 2>is everything we go through is not horrible. Like people

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 2>like there wouldn't be culture if people that make a

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 2>positive or pride out of it, right, you know what

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:25.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean?

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Like you just find the best of the situation.

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 7>And just like on a quasi best related note, like

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:39.719
<v Speaker 7>the outs like the way outsider perspective.

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, of the community.

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 7>If that, if it was as true as they perceived

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 7>it to be, I'd have been dead twenty years ago.

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:50.240
<v Speaker 1>Why would you have been dead twenty years ago?

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:51.360
<v Speaker 5>Look at how.

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:55.400
<v Speaker 7>Like people perceive like South Central com of that area

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 7>as being I think they perceive it as being like

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 7>every day you're gonna be Reginald Denny again. Right, sure,

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 7>I'm down there too. Like you, you would want to

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 7>interact with gang bangers. They're gonna you know, rob you,

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:13.759
<v Speaker 7>they hate you to all this other shit. I know

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 7>too many of them personally as my friends. I wouldn't

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 7>have survived long enough to have a conversation.

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 1>That was the Yeah, that's the Yeah.

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 2>It's just hard trying to convey it because like I'm

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 2>trying to be more fact based, right sega than perception based.

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:32.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 2>And but the problem is the violence is when when

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 2>something does happen because there is violence that happens because

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 2>there's unnecessary you know, there's unnecessary actions that cause pain

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 2>and injuries. Yeah, when they happen, you know what I'm saying,

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 2>They are so traumatic, those experiences loan over your head

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 2>for a long time and they're dampened two three hundred

0:39:58.520 --> 0:39:59.400
<v Speaker 2>days for some people.

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what I mean. So like they'll just

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:05.840
<v Speaker 1>see it completely different.

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:10.439
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's just a part of life.

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 4>Its Yeah, I mean, like I said, I've I've grown

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 4>up around it and had family members in it in

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 4>the whole nine Homies, my brothers, you feel me. So

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:25.279
<v Speaker 4>it's like like you said, it's like looking at it

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:28.880
<v Speaker 4>from that point of view is a whole other aspect

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 4>of seeing like camaraderie and seeing different aspects of just

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, people coming together on a common and not

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 4>having malicious hearts. I've seen people have who have malicious

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 4>hearts who I thought shouldn't have malicious hearts. You're not

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 4>in no type of gang. As a matter of fact,

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 4>you're a business owner. You know, you're somebody who should

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 4>be upstanding showing me the way. And it's like, so

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 4>I've seen it on both sides. So when it comes

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 4>down to it, when you just try to label gangs

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 4>at something negative, it's just a cop out. It's almost

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 4>just like when you say it's a lazy it's like

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 4>lazy saying, uh, it's this is West Coast music. It's

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 4>just as lazy to label a gang. This is what

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 4>you're You're a gang, You're you're violent, you're this or that,

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:18.839
<v Speaker 4>when i'm this is a group of people put under

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 4>certain circumstances who are gonna respond just like anybody else

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 4>probably would.

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:23.799
<v Speaker 1>That's what all.

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 6>So what are we really talking about?

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:29.720
<v Speaker 4>And at the end of the day, but it's easy

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:32.840
<v Speaker 4>to classify it and point the finger and then you know,

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 4>you can get robbed in the streets, so you can

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:36.880
<v Speaker 4>go to a business meeting to get ribbed with a

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 4>smile on your face. So it's like when you have

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 4>a different when you have an aspect of seeing, oh

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 4>it's good and bad, you can kind of break sit

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 4>down a little better and just be more accountable for

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 4>what you're doing and what everybody should be doing or

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:52.359
<v Speaker 4>what everybody is doing end of the day, because it's

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 4>not like, oh this you're looking at this one group,

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna you're gonna be asked out thinking, oh, they

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 4>bad because they might be the one group that saved

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:01.920
<v Speaker 4>your ass that one time, just because you're going this

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 4>is a gang member, gang member, naw this this dude

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:07.360
<v Speaker 4>right here, Just you catch Kiki on a on a

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:09.960
<v Speaker 4>good day, on any day. You catch Kiki on any day,

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 4>this nigga's gonna save your mom from getting her back snatched.

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:17.440
<v Speaker 6>So what are we talking about? You feel me?

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 4>And it's like same with you, Like it just is

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 4>kind of like when you label it. It's easy to

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:24.239
<v Speaker 4>do that, but it's lazy to do that.

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 2>And I guess that's that's that was my thought coming

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 2>into this conversation that it was always like this perception,

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.919
<v Speaker 2>like the worst thing is being online sometimes and seeing

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 2>people saying, y'all kill over property that don't belong to you,

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, do y'all really think this is about property?

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Like do y'all think it's about the color of a bandanna?

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Like I get it, they saw the movie Colors, But

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:51.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you don't think it would be like more

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 2>nuanced things happening. What's driving people to be this angry,

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 2>not just somebody chose a color of a bandanna. They

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 2>can't help it. They like, yeah, nah, this is what

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 2>it is. And I'm starting to believe for some people

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 2>that's inside of it because, like I said, back to

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:10.279
<v Speaker 2>the conversation we was having about hip hop, there are

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of ignorance that's even in people that's playing

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 2>in the sport. It's a lot of ignorance and people

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 2>that's in the middle of it. Like you don't have

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 2>to know. But when you at the forefront of knowing

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 2>what's happening, it's your job to tell people the truth,

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:26.799
<v Speaker 2>even if they fight it. That's what I always tell here.

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:30.840
<v Speaker 2>My job is to make sure just like I'm telling y'all,

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 2>there's no West Coast sound that don't make sense. You

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:36.360
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, There is no fucking.

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:41.399
<v Speaker 4>You gotta expand the perspective and open Yeah. Really, it

0:43:41.440 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 4>puts space into the whole. It makes more room in

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 4>the space for you to see things a little more clear,

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 4>Like open your eyes a little more so.

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:50.839
<v Speaker 6>You can understand what's going on a little a lot more.

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 1>And the worst part is you have to inform people

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 1>that half as a part of the coaching. Yeah, right, now,

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I can see if I was just talking to Pete.

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Is Pete somebody who's been around, But I could see

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 2>if I was talking to a stranger that never met

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 2>anybody from the culture at all. These street are culture

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 2>lifestyle at all, but it'll be people who half ass

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 2>grew up around us. People grew up where they just

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 2>allow other people outside of it to shape their narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get me wrong, man, I genuinely believe like my

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:23.839
<v Speaker 2>dad and never been riding motorcycles for as long as

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<v Speaker 2>I can remember, since the sixties and seven. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>my dad's how long my dad been on the right

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<v Speaker 2>sixty seven maybe eighties at the latest.

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<v Speaker 1>He been on the bike forever.

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<v Speaker 2>When Sons and Anarchy came out, that made more people

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<v Speaker 2>in the community want to get bikes. Sure, right, I

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 2>was asking og Homi, like people had low right here,

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<v Speaker 2>they was low riding in the eighties, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it was some people, he said. But when boys

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<v Speaker 2>and Hood came out, people in the culture was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give me one two because they're looking for

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<v Speaker 2>outside validation, So they really try to validate it to

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<v Speaker 2>the person that's next to them when it becomes accepted.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I'm saying back to that point where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying with somebody like Birdy talking about making acceptable

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<v Speaker 2>music when that's not the foundation of what hip hop is.

0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:08.799
<v Speaker 2>Hip hop just happened to make music that people can

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<v Speaker 2>relate to. It's not about can people relate to the music.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually about telling the story for people you know

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<v Speaker 2>that didn't have a voice, that most people don't connect with.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you realize that these group of people you

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<v Speaker 2>do have some kind of common theme or you respect

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<v Speaker 2>something about how they survive. Like Pete always say, I

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:27.440
<v Speaker 2>don't want to hear about your trauma. I want to

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 2>hear about your durability. I mean, how much stuff can

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<v Speaker 2>you go through? I don't want to hear you talking

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<v Speaker 2>about how bad it was what you went through. I

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:37.360
<v Speaker 2>want you to show me how you overcame from what.

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<v Speaker 6>You been did.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's real, that's the story they want to hear.

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:41.799
<v Speaker 4>That's the story that people want to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's why I don't That's why I don't

0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:47.920
<v Speaker 2>get on drill rap like that. People hear drill rap like, oh,

0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 2>I killed thirty people, now people did, versus somebody said,

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm still right here in the middle of all this shit.

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I did everything I had to do. That's how it

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:56.479
<v Speaker 1>comes to my ears.

0:45:57.480 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't hear it like I killed thirty people I

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<v Speaker 2>shot because it's Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hear it.

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:05.360
<v Speaker 2>I hear it like, man, we beef it with them niggas.

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<v Speaker 2>I pulled out and I got off on the niggas

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm still here. And that's why niggas be bragging

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 2>about surviving. That's also why niggas be high, because they

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:13.600
<v Speaker 2>be trying.

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 1>To deal with all the ship.

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<v Speaker 6>Questions. Shadow.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think obviously like one kind of lesser discussed

0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 7>topic and now we have like a multi generational panel,

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<v Speaker 7>so it kind of clears some of that up.

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<v Speaker 5>It is like how.

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<v Speaker 7>Much of a factor time is and the evolution of

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:40.800
<v Speaker 7>culture and landscapes and society over the course of you know, decades.

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<v Speaker 7>Do you think like it in like in its infancy,

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:49.400
<v Speaker 7>there would be a scenario where there's like a turning

0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:55.319
<v Speaker 7>point where one point, okay, you could put you know,

0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:59.400
<v Speaker 7>color band Dan out of your pocket or not. Is

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 7>it more more likely that somebody would be like, oh,

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:05.759
<v Speaker 7>he's part of such and such. I could see it

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 7>from that thing over there. I'm not gonna try to

0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:11.240
<v Speaker 7>get over on that guy. So there was an advantage

0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:13.239
<v Speaker 7>of doing it. And then you get to a point

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 7>beyond that where, like say five ten years later, the

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 7>landscape's changed. Now you have a band Dana hanging out

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:21.840
<v Speaker 7>of your pocket and you're now you're a target. So

0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 7>it went from being a deterrent to being inviting the

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<v Speaker 7>nineteen seventies hypothetically, or.

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<v Speaker 2>It carries the first thing. Yeah, the first thing stays through.

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:37.439
<v Speaker 2>Most people don't want to fuck with other people that's

0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:40.520
<v Speaker 2>gang man. You're gonna find a very select few people

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:43.160
<v Speaker 2>that's just determined to press somebody that's a gang member.

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:45.880
<v Speaker 7>It have to be obviously at that point, like somebody

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:47.400
<v Speaker 7>from over there did something to one of us.

0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 5>So we got to find somebody from over.

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:50.680
<v Speaker 1>And it got to be somebody that's really some shit

0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:51.440
<v Speaker 1>from over there.

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:54.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, every bad every Das's persson from over there ain't

0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:55.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna press they learn.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure.

0:47:57.520 --> 0:47:59.840
<v Speaker 2>You know what's funny, pe I went in this podcast,

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:01.480
<v Speaker 2>but I want to start doing for the podcast. I

0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 2>want you to ask a question based off everything we

0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:06.600
<v Speaker 2>talked about. I want you to ask a question to

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:09.560
<v Speaker 2>the people who enjoy No Sentner's podcast so they could

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 2>leave an answer inside the actual comments. So is there

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 2>a question that you feel like people if you want

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:17.760
<v Speaker 2>to ask people questions?

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's a hell of a pop up thing,

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:20.400
<v Speaker 1>but that is.

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<v Speaker 5>A pop up thing. I feel like you have a

0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:23.960
<v Speaker 5>better question on deck than I would have.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I have a question, after like all of everything

0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:36.759
<v Speaker 4>that you just heard, Pete this or you Pete, after

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:40.319
<v Speaker 4>everything you just heard, what would you what would your like,

0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:42.839
<v Speaker 4>what would would you have any questions in regards to

0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:46.839
<v Speaker 4>like the whole violence aspect of it. What would your

0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:49.720
<v Speaker 4>approach be as of right now? Do you still believe

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 4>like it's still a violent thing where it's like a

0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 4>kind of like what's your what's your pov on that?

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<v Speaker 6>Well?

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<v Speaker 7>To me personally, like my take is that most of

0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:05.919
<v Speaker 7>this conversation, in my opinion, centers around a pretty big

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:11.719
<v Speaker 7>gray area and conversations that get looser and looser with

0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 7>the language like say, the difference between violence and danger,

0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:20.640
<v Speaker 7>you know, right, stuff like that? Right, I would say

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<v Speaker 7>in general speak, I just want to know from the

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:29.839
<v Speaker 7>audience they wanted to leave comments or feedback, like what

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:38.359
<v Speaker 7>is their perception of danger versus violence like in their

0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:42.720
<v Speaker 7>own lives and the decision making that they make, whether

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 7>you decided you wanted to be part of something or

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:46.880
<v Speaker 7>if you didn't, and was that a consideration or was

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:48.880
<v Speaker 7>it not? Like how has that kind of interacted in

0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:50.759
<v Speaker 7>your own thought process in your own life?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>So, so you want them to say, do you want

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<v Speaker 2>them to say how they how do they see the

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<v Speaker 2>difference between violence and danger?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? Or if they see a difference between.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah,