1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: It's that time. Time, time, time, Luck and load. Michael 2 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Verie Show is on the air. 3 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: You tune into any conservative news channel on the radio, 4 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: on television, you read any blog, you read any magazine. 5 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: You will hear politicians. 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: You will hear this set again and again and again, 7 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: the Sorows district attorneys, the Sorrows prosecutors. We know that 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: crime is up across the country, almost exclusively in major cities, 9 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: and we know that there are these sort of predator, prowler, 10 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: evil people who in past years would have committed their 11 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: crime and then they would have been arrested eventually, and 12 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: then they would have been sent away time for a 13 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: couple of years, they'd get out, they do it again 14 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: the next time, for ten years, get out and do 15 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: it again the next time. They'd be in for And 16 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,919 Speaker 2: they're getting older as this is going on, and as 17 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 2: as punks get older, they tend to be less aggressive 18 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: and less violent. Well, what happens if that what if 19 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: that happens if that cycle that we just just described, 20 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: What if instead that guy may or may not be arrested, 21 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: but when he is, he's released. Now instead of being 22 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: a year, three, five, ten years in prison, he's committing crimes, 23 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: and he's committing a lot of them, and they're violent, 24 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: and each victim. God help you if you're a victim 25 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: one of these people, because you're not a statistic anymore. 26 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: It becomes you lock every door obsessively, you go to counseling, 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: you worry over your family members, the phone rings and 28 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: you jump, you worry something. It changes your whole, It 29 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: steals your innocence. So we know that George Soros and 30 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: now his son's taking over the operation. We know that 31 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: I can't stand the man, and it is bad for 32 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: a mayor. But one must marvel at how effectively he 33 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: has carried out his agenda by simply recognizing a little quirk, 34 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: a little loophole. Go in and get the district attorney, 35 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: own the district attorney in the major city, and you 36 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: can make criminals out of innocent people, and you can 37 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: make innocent people out of criminals. You can really create 38 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: a tumultuous situation. And that has happened. Now you've heard 39 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: this line from me, from Tucker, from a lot of 40 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: other people. We have a guest who's going to help 41 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: us dig deeper in actually case in point, chapter and verse. 42 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: His name is Zack Smith. 43 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: He's a Senior Legal Fellow at the Heritage Foundation and 44 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: he is an author of the He is the author 45 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: of the book Rogue Prosecutors, How radical Soros lawyers are 46 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: destroying America's communities. It is available now. Zach, let me 47 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: start with the question, of all the things you could 48 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: write about, why did you choose this. 49 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, thank you for having me on 50 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: the show today. I really appreciate appreciate the opportunity to 51 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: be here and talk about this. But the reason we 52 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: chose to write about this my co author and I 53 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: we're both former prosecutors, and we started talking to the 54 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 3: friends of former colleagues and they said, Hey, there are 55 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 3: prosecutors coming into office around the country and they're not prosecuting. 56 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: They're refusing to prosecute certain crimes. They're not seeking bail, 57 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: even for repeat violent offenders, and even when someone is 58 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: convicted of a crime, they're seeking very lenient sentences for 59 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: that convicted criminal. And we started hearing this story more 60 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: and more in cities are around the country, and so 61 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: we started looking into it. We started writing about some 62 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: of these prosecutors, and pretty soon it became a parent 63 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: there's a thread weaving all these prosecutors together. This was 64 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: a national movement that was very well financed back by 65 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: George Soros and other left leaning billion and it was 66 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: a systematic attempt to fundamentally, and this is their words, 67 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: reimagine and re engineer our criminal justice system. And the 68 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: consequences of this effort have been absolutely devastating in the 69 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: communities where it's being tried. It's been absolutely devastating for victims, 70 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 3: and it's been absolutely devastating for the rule of law 71 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 3: across the country. And so this is a very important topic. Frankly, 72 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 3: I think it's something not a lot of people realize 73 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 3: is happening right now, and so we wanted to write 74 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: about it, to highlight it and the most importantly, give 75 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: folks a half way forward if they're confronted with one 76 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 3: of these rogue, radical distance attorneys in their own communities. 77 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: Zach, I want to do that, but I want to 78 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: devote sufficient time. 79 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: As much as we. 80 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: Possibly can to Let's start, and I want to devote 81 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: the time to do this early. 82 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: Let's start with how this happened. 83 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: To what extent can we say that these are Soros prosecutors. 84 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: I'm going to make some straw Man arguments, I'm going 85 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: to be the devil's. 86 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: Advocate in this case from truly the devil's advocate. 87 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: Let's start with, well, George Soros isn't the only one 88 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: supporting these prosecutors, and they are winning the support of 89 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: their voters. How do you respond to his outsized influence. 90 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: Well, I'll make a couple of points in response to that. 91 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 3: First of all, yeah, George Soros isn't the only person 92 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 3: doing it, but he was certainly one of the driving 93 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: forces behind this movement. He's certainly been one of the 94 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 3: biggest financial contributors to this movement. In our book, we 95 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: have an entire chapter where we go through the funding 96 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: of this movement, how it works, what we know. What 97 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 3: we can't definitively know because a lot of the money 98 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: goes through that channel to tend from public views. But 99 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: what we think we know based on where some of 100 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 3: the money is going with some of the money is 101 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: being spent. And it's estimated that in direct campaign contributions, 102 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: George Soros has given almost forty million dollars in direct 103 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 3: campaign contributions to support these rogue districts a journeys around 104 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: the country. Now that is a lot of money. But 105 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 3: in politics, you may be thinking, well, that's not that 106 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: much money. You know, look at how much we spend 107 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: on the last presidential election, look at how much is 108 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 3: spend on senate rignatorial races. But the important thing to 109 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: realize here is that in different attorney races, these are 110 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: traditionally low dollar, low profile affairs. They're often uncontested. Many times, 111 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: even in large cities, a six figure campaign contribution is 112 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: unheard of. And so when you you know, inundate these 113 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 3: cities with a seven figure campaign contribution, that's a tsunami 114 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: of money. Also, we suspect in indirect spending, different infrastructure 115 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: that's been put in place, think tanks, support groups that 116 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 3: George sorol system spending to support this radical movement in 117 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: criminal justice pro reform in general may be approaching a billion, 118 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 3: as it's a billion with a be dollars. And then 119 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: quickly to your second point, you said, these individuals received 120 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: these supportable voters, they were elected to office. That's true. 121 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: What happened in many of these jurisdictions when these folks 122 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: were first running for office, these pulltected language saying they 123 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: wanted to fare criminal justice system. They wanted a criminal 124 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: justice system that didn't unnecessarily incarcerate anyone. They made pretty 125 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: uncontroversial statements that you or I or any reasonable person 126 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: would agree with. Well, what happened when these individuals got 127 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: into office. In many cases it quickly became a parent. 128 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: What they met by those phrases and what you or 129 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: I or the average person would have understood those phrases 130 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: to mean are two different things. 131 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: Dire right and the amount of money, As you said, 132 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: it may not sound like that much money, but it 133 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: is shocking how these district attorneys races. Unlike say, congressional seats, 134 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: one congressman can't do much if you're not the Speaker 135 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: of the House you just won congressman, a district attorney 136 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: has an incredible amount of power. We will discuss this 137 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: issue in greater detail. I'm going to devote a lot 138 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: of time on this Evening's program so that you're aware 139 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: because this is an issue that is not getting enough 140 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: attention and is absolutely destroying America's cities. 141 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 1: Heck, you see what's. 142 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: Happening with with Donald Trump and that prosecution alone. More 143 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: coming up the book is Rogue Prosecutors, How Radical Sorrows 144 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: Lawyers are destroying America's. 145 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: Community have almost went to law school myself. 146 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: The Michael Berry Show. 147 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: Zach Smith is our guest of the Heritage Foundation. The 148 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 2: book is Rogue Prosecutors. How radical Soros lawyer are destroying 149 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: America's communities. Folks, I want you to understand, to put 150 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: this into perspective. When you talk about presidential elections and 151 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: how much money is raised, you take that to the 152 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: state level for gubernatorial elections and how much money is raised. 153 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: And the one that gets me is how much money 154 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: people will spend on a congressional election. How much more 155 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: money will be raised, And you think to yourself, of 156 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: all those millions of dollars, we could have taken ten 157 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: percent of that and focused it on a district attorney's 158 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: race in the major cities and won some races. Most 159 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: people don't know who the district attorney is in their county. 160 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: And I'm particularly speaking of the major counties that the 161 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: major cities are a part of. Harris County for Houston, 162 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: Cook County for Chicago. You see this with Atlanta, Philadelphia, Baltimore, 163 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: New York, LA, Seattle, Minneapolis, Portland. You know, Monomah County 164 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: used to be kind of a reasonable county, and Portland 165 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: was a little wacky, weird, harmless. Well that's changed, and 166 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: now you don't want to run a foul of the 167 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: district attorney in those sorts of places. So for very 168 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: little money, you talk about bang for the buck. For 169 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 2: very little month, the relatively speaking, sorrows can have an 170 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 2: incredible amount of influence in decriminalizing certain crimes, in saying, well, 171 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: if you're a young black man who is engaged in jugging, 172 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: that's a big thing in Houston right now. And you 173 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: follow a little old lady from the bank where she 174 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: makes a withdrawal because she's going because her grandkids are 175 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: coming to see her and she wants to give them 176 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: some money for their birthday. And that guy puts a 177 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: pistol in her face, whips her, takes the money, and 178 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: the cops arrest him. They got him dead to rights, 179 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 2: they got him on video, they've got her witness account. 180 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: There's no doubt. You know, there's four witnesses at a 181 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 2: whole deal. And you've got, as we've seen in Houston, 182 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: you've got now judges, because beyond just the prosecutor, you've 183 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: got the judges. 184 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: Now, all of. 185 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: A sudden We've seen a crime spike in Houston and 186 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: Harris County the likes of which we've never seen. And 187 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: it's not that that there are more criminals, it's that 188 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 2: our process. 189 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: Is no longer dealing with them. 190 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: That's why this issue is so important because it's a 191 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 2: national trend and it's not accidental rogue prosecutors. How radical 192 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: Soros lawyers are destroying America's communities. Zach, I think I 193 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: cut you off while you were making your point. I 194 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: want to make sure you leave nothing unsaid. We're gonna 195 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 2: have plenty of time to get into this. But when 196 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: you look at the Soro's strategy and how targeted this is, 197 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: how did he do we understand how he decided this 198 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 2: would be the thing he would focus on. 199 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have an entire chapter in the book, and 200 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: the way we structured the book, we basically have. The 201 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: first chapter talks about the background, the ideological underpinnings of 202 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: the movement. It has its roots in a Marxist movement 203 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: from the sixties seventies to prison abolition movement. There's actually 204 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: a movement where people think no one should go to 205 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: prison for any reason. Well, that obviously didn't play well 206 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 3: with the general public work. Most people recognize it for 207 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 3: the radical policy that it was. But what that original 208 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,359 Speaker 3: marksist prison abolition movement pushed. Much of that's been accomplished 209 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: a day through the Rogue Prosecutor movement. But what happened 210 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 3: back in twenty fourteen twenty fifteen, Essentially some folks who 211 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 3: work for George Soros or had been affiliated with George Soros, 212 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: they recognized how much power the district attorney has. And 213 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: there are twenty three hundred local elected das around the country, 214 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 3: and they simply realized, it doesn't matter how many officers 215 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: you have on the street. It doesn't matter if the 216 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 3: officers are making arrest. If the prosecutor won't prosecute the 217 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: criminals but the police do, doesn't matter. And it doesn't 218 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 3: matter what kind of laws you have on the book. 219 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: If you have mandatory minimums, leaky sentences for violent crimes, 220 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 3: none of that matters either. If the prosecutor won't prosecute, 221 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 3: because the judge will never see the case, it'll be 222 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 3: dismissed before it ever goes to trial. And so, in 223 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 3: a very ingenious and very diabolical way, these individuals recognized 224 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 3: how much power the DA has They recognized that not 225 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: many people pay attention to the local DA races, and 226 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 3: they recognized that for relatively little money, they could go 227 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 3: in boost their preferred candidates to the top of the 228 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 3: electoral pack and essentially through a very back end way 229 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 3: and act their preferred policies, policies that frankly they like, 230 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 3: they knew they could never get pushed through each state's legislature. 231 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: And so they did a test run in Mississippi and 232 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 3: Louisiana with some where they primaried essentially some death penalty das, 233 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: and they had success. And so then they moved out 234 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: and they went national and their first big city prosecute 235 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 3: that they packed with Tim Fox in Chicago, the Cook 236 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 3: County District Attorney. And so the other thing we do 237 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: in our book we highlight eight different road prosecutors in 238 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: eight different cities around the country. We outlined how they 239 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: came to be part of the movement, who backed them, 240 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 3: the policies they acted once they got into office, and 241 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: most tragically, we focus on true crime stories that would 242 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: not have happened but for these rogue prosecutors' policies. And 243 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 3: I have to tell you it's heartbreaking when you see 244 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: the same results playing out in city after city after city, 245 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: and knowing that these crimes would not have happened if 246 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: these prosecutors would have just done their jobs and would 247 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 3: if they would have sought justice and sought to hold 248 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: criminals accountable for their actions. 249 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: It's a real harsh reality that many people don't want 250 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: to accept, to understand that there is a prevailing belief, 251 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: because they don't say it in these words directly, that 252 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: a person who commits murder, particularly a person of color, 253 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: should simply be released back out on the streets because 254 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: he is a victim of a system. And it's not 255 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: until someone is a victim of a crime or has 256 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: a family member who is. And we had a series 257 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: of crime victims families in the last year during our 258 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: during our election cycle. Step forward, and we had the 259 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: son of a woman who she was run over and 260 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: then they backed back up over her to steal her purse. 261 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: She exited a McDonald's. And we have teenagers who are 262 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: murdered by a gang member, and then the gang members 263 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: drive by the mom's home and and and make you know, 264 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: air pistol gestures at her, or they're released from prison 265 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: before she's home from a casket or planning the funeral. 266 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: The bad guys are released to go back to their 267 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: home three doors over from where the bad guy kill 268 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: their daughter. It is a level of a depth of 269 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 2: depravity that is hard, I think for most people to 270 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: understand that these things aren't happening accidentally, that this is 271 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: a strategy, a very ill intentioned strategy, and it's working 272 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: out exactly the way they planned it because they don't 273 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: share our belief that the victim is sacrosanct and criminals 274 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: should be punished. 275 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: I will die for the country. I will die or 276 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: discraft to Michael Berry Joe, he's. 277 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: The big honor to be living in the United States. 278 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: A year or two ago, I was watching No Country 279 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: for Old Men, and Tommy Lee Jones's character, if you recall, 280 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: is the sheriff who never really unholsters his gun. 281 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: He never has to draw, and the. 282 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: Mexican cartels have brought a level of violence to the 283 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: streets that he can't even understand. The firepower far exceeds 284 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: anything he's got, and he just can't understand how the 285 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: world has gone to hell. 286 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: You just can't understand it. 287 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: So he goes to his mentor and he's talking to 288 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: his mentor, and his mentor's trying to explain how crazy 289 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: the world has become, and he refers to. 290 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: Signs and wonders. 291 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: And when I heard that, I thought, you know, that's 292 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 2: how I feel about some of the crazy news stories 293 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 2: of how on earth can this actually happen? How do 294 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: you reach such a point of depravity? I really have 295 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: to wonder. 296 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 4: Well. 297 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 2: Our latest installment of Signs and Wonders comes to you 298 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 2: from Chicago, Illinois. 299 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 5: It's all damn money income, money in the drugs. It's 300 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 5: just damp and down. Thank you? 301 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 6: What it mean? 302 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 4: What's it leading to? 303 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 5: I don't know if you'd have told me twenty years 304 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 5: ago i'd see children walking the streets of our Texas 305 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 5: towns with the green horns, bones and their noses. It's 306 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 5: fled out with the bleak signs and wonders that I think, 307 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 5: once you quit here in sir and ma'am, that's just 308 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 5: sim to follow. Oh it's the it's the dismal pad. 309 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: It is not the one to stam friends. 310 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 5: Walkers, Signs and Wonder five visual. 311 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 4: Wonderside Walkers. 312 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: So credit for this story comes from Fox thirty two 313 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: in Chicago, and it's ugly. 314 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 7: We began with a tragic story in the Southwest Suburbs 315 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 7: after teens. 316 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: Take a stolen Kia for a deadly joy ride. 317 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 7: Robin's fully say three thirteen year old boys were inside 318 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 7: of a stolen Kia with the driver's side window busted out, 319 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 7: driving on Kedzie Avenue at about two thirty this afternoon. 320 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 7: Police started to follow the Kia when it collided with 321 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 7: another car, killing a seventy one. 322 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: Year old man who was driving. 323 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 7: Neighbors tell us the man lived in a nearby apartment complex. 324 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: He's terrible, terrible. 325 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 6: I don't even think they'd taken driver's eave. 326 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: So how are you stealing a car? 327 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 6: You're very unfortunate. 328 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: Say it. 329 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: Say it. The teens were all arrested at the scene. 330 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: The amazing thing is that that woman is most bothered 331 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 2: that they haven't taken drivers yet. 332 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: That's the least of their worries. 333 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: Before you say, well, they're just children doing childish things, 334 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: let me remind you of Latarian. Milton Latarian was seven 335 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: years old when he stole his grandma's car. When asked 336 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: why he did it, he said that he wanted to 337 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: do hood rat stuff with his friends. He wanted to 338 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: do hood rat stuff with his friends. That went viral 339 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine, but you've already forgotten it. 340 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: He was seven years old. 341 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: You have a seven year old boy stealing a car 342 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: and saying funny stuff on the news. Let's go back 343 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: to that original report. This is a seven year old kid, 344 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: a first grader. Credit WPF News. 345 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 8: In West Palm Beach, Latarian Milton is not your typical 346 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 8: seven year old his age have ever driven an suv 347 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 8: up and down several busy streets. 348 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 4: It all started at his mother's townhouse. 349 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 8: Latarian says he took the car keys and hopped into 350 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 8: his grandmother's dodge duringo. 351 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: When I came to the back door, I looked on 352 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: the counter, my keys were going. 353 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 6: I took my grandma car because I got mad at 354 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 6: my mom. And then I saw him have my friend 355 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 6: come in and he smoked with cigarettes. 356 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 4: He started the vehicle and put it into gear. 357 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 6: I yanked the I yanked, I yanked the thing, and. 358 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 8: Off they went. Two seven year olds alone on the road. 359 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 8: Latarian drove several miles through Lake Park and Palm Beach Gardens. 360 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 7: We got the one called he told about a driver 361 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 7: in the vehicle who looked too short to be able 362 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 7: to see the stereo. 363 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 8: Along the way, he ran over two mailboxes, hit two 364 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 8: parked cars in a Costco parking lot, and struck two 365 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 8: moving cars near Walmart. 366 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 6: I want to do it because it's fun. It's funny 367 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 6: do bad things. Drives into a. 368 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 4: Car, so did you know that you could perhaps kill somebody? 369 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 6: Yes, but I wanted to do her or stuff for 370 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 6: my friend. 371 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,479 Speaker 8: It all ended on Investment Lane and Consumer Drive. That's 372 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 8: where latarian hit the curve inside swipe the sign. The 373 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 8: SUV took most of the beating, snapping off one of 374 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 8: his axles and wheels. Grandmother's rage. 375 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: I want to whip his behind. That's what I want 376 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 1: to do right now. 377 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 9: If I thought they wouldn't take me to jail, I'd 378 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 9: whip his behind right now. 379 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 4: And you don't think he should be punished for all 380 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 4: of this. 381 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 6: There's a little bit no video game for whole weekend. 382 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 4: And one unusual story for police. 383 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: Are you sorry? 384 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: You understand that now your grandma's gonna have to pay 385 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: to have those cars fixed because you hit those cars. 386 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 6: Can my mom know? 387 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 3: Hop? 388 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 4: I don't know. 389 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: Can you mom help her? 390 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 3: Well? 391 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: You moved on as we all did, but Latarian didn't. 392 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: Two weeks after that, he attacked his grandmother because she 393 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: wouldn't buy him chicken wings. Nine years later, he found 394 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 2: himself in trouble again. Want to guess what he did? 395 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 2: This time he carjacked a car with his friends once again. 396 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: WPBF twenty five news. 397 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 8: Latarian Milton spent about ten minutes in court this morning. 398 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 8: He learned that he will not be able to go 399 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 8: home anytime soon. He will have to wait to hear 400 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 8: from the judge the next court day. We last spoke 401 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 8: with Latari and Milton in twenty fifteen. He had just 402 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 8: completed middle school and was looking forward to the next step. 403 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 6: Don't get the school at high school because we had 404 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 6: found the football team some good successful. 405 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 8: This is Milton entering a westbaum Beach courtroom Monday to 406 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 8: face charges stemming from an arm robbery and car Jackie. 407 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 8: Palbee County Sheriff's deputy say a lift driver picked up 408 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 8: four young males and a female early Sunday morning and 409 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 8: drove them to a windor away in West Palm Beach. 410 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 8: That's where the female exited the vehicle. Investigators say the 411 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 8: suspects told the driver to take them to another location. 412 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 8: When the driver refused, authorities say one of the suspects 413 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 8: pulled out a handgun and hit the driver in the 414 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 8: back of the head. The driver says he got out 415 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 8: of the car and was robbed of his Walladen jacket. 416 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 8: He later told deputies that Milton, who was in the 417 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 8: front passenger seat, got out and hopped into the driver's 418 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 8: seat and sped away with the other suspects. According to investigators, 419 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 8: the driver gave detectives a phone number, which led to 420 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 8: the identification of Milton. Deputies arrested Milton Sunday afternoon. 421 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 4: We first met. 422 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 8: Milton in two thousand and seven, when he was seven 423 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 8: years old. He had just stolen his grandmother's SUV and 424 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 8: went on a joy ride through Lake Park in Palm 425 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 8: Beach Gardens. 426 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 6: I want to do it. It's funny, funny do bad things, 427 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 6: said he drives into a car. 428 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 4: So did you know that you could perhaps kill somebody? 429 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 6: Yes, but I wanted to do her or stuff with 430 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 6: my friend. 431 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 9: If I thought they wouldn't take me to jail, I'd 432 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 9: whip this behind right now. 433 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 8: Back in court, the judge ordered Milton to remain at 434 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 8: a juvenile facility into his next. 435 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: Court day, Militarian would be sentenced to fifteen years in 436 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 2: prison for that crime. The streets have replaced fathers in 437 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: the home. 438 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: You know, I've played this. 439 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 2: Clip before, but maybe it's never been more appropriate than now. 440 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: It was Denzel Washington when he was asked about the 441 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: importance of the father in the home. 442 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 10: You know, incarceration race in America has been a problem, 443 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 10: especially as opposed to minorities, and Roman dez into this 444 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 10: the issues around the legal system. Do you think we've 445 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 10: made any headway? 446 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 9: And I think it's more important to make hayway in 447 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 9: our own house. By the time the system comes into play, 448 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 9: the damage is done. They're not locking up seven year olds. 449 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 450 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 9: You know, I was in Chicago a couple of three 451 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 9: four weeks ago and we saw these little kids on 452 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 9: bikes with masks on the side of it, head like 453 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 9: five or six of them. And the driver said, yeah, 454 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 9: they little yummies. I said, who said little yummies? Look 455 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 9: up Google little yummy. Little Yummy was eleven year old murderer. 456 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 2: Wow. 457 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 4: And you look at his picture. 458 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 9: You see his head shot at him and he's like 459 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 9: this And he got murdered at eleven by a fourteen 460 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 9: year old Wow, who's doing life now and a sixteen 461 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 9: year old? 462 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 4: That makes no sense. 463 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: You blame the system. 464 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 4: Where was his father? 465 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 9: It starts in the house and starts in the home, 466 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 9: and yeah, well, well when my father got locked up? 467 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: Or where was his father? 468 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 469 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 9: You know, But like I did, talk about my three 470 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 9: closest friends, and they did you know, fifteen to twenty five? 471 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 9: One did twenty eight this, and that I was the 472 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 9: only one of the three to have a father in 473 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 9: my life, even though my parents were together. But I 474 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 9: still had a father who was a gentle man and 475 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 9: a good example. And they didn't. We can blame the 476 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 9: system if we won, but they didn't lock any of 477 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 9: us up at seven. Yeah, we were all doing enough 478 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 9: to get locked up at thirteen. My parents me in 479 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 9: another direction. They didn't have anybody to help them, and 480 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 9: they kept doing what they was doing and the system 481 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 9: got them. 482 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: So I don't know. 483 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 9: The system is rigged, but why all the more reason 484 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 9: not to help you take care of it though. 485 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: Think the issue of DEEI that keeps coming up, diversity, 486 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: equity and inclusion, and it is an issue fraught with 487 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: hurt feelings and a lack of honesty and the lack 488 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: of honesty is for a simple reason, because of the 489 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: hurt feelings. See, the truth is painful to some people. 490 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: If you were let's say you're a fan of the NFL. 491 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: For about a twenty year span there the most dominant 492 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: team by far was the New England Patriots, but the 493 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 2: fans of all the other teams wanted their team to win, 494 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: so they would argue, my team's better in your team. 495 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 2: But no, actually, your team doesn't win the super Bowl 496 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: and the Patriots do. 497 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 4: It's just that simple. 498 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 2: But if it hurts your feelings, we'll say that your team, 499 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: which came in last place is the best team and 500 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 2: the Patriots really aren't. And we can make excuses. We 501 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: can do the film, we can do the inflated, but 502 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: we can make every excuse known to mankind, and we 503 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: can say your team is better. In fact, we can 504 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 2: make your team the super Bowl champion. We just call 505 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 2: them the champion even though they don't win, and then 506 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 2: everybody will be happy. Right, And that's what you do 507 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 2: if your primary goal is to avoid hurting people's feelings. 508 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: So what people learn when they want to get their way, 509 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 2: as children do, is they learn what behaviors will allow 510 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: them to get their way. You see a child manipulate 511 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: a parent, and every parent you know, you've you've been there. 512 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 2: A kid who has a booboo, Mama kisses the booboo, 513 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 2: who put a band aid on it, and for a 514 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: little while there he doesn't have to do his homework, 515 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 2: almost fussing or what she's using that sweet mama tone. 516 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 4: Oh, it's so nice. 517 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: He can eat what he wants. 518 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 2: You're not required to do anything, and maybe we can 519 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 2: even have some ice cream. 520 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: Oh, it's good. 521 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 2: So if you're a kid, you go ooh. Hypochondria pays. 522 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 2: This is how we train animals. It's very simple. Animals 523 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 2: can't understand words. They do understand tone. I think some 524 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: humans think they understand words. 525 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: They don't. 526 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: And obviously they can't speak back to us. But say, dogs, 527 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: for instance, are very smart and they're very smart at 528 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: recognizing patterns. And dog trainers will tell you this, and 529 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: that's why the consistency of the pattern is key. Dog, 530 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 2: when I say a word or a sound umph and 531 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: you go down flat, and I give you a milk 532 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: bone and you love a milk bone. 533 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: Then when I go humph, you go down, you get. 534 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 2: The bone, and next time I go humph, you're going 535 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: down because you'll get the bone. 536 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 3: Now. 537 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 2: Umph it is not really a word. But if instead 538 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 2: of umph, I did sit, then you may oh, he 539 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 2: gets the word sit. No, he gets the tone and 540 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: he gets the reaction. And so dogs learn to react 541 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: in this manner. Well, guess what some of you, in fact, 542 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: most of you, are being played for the dog by 543 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: people want you to react a certain way when they 544 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: want it. When they scream racism, you apologize, you hand 545 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: over your money, you hand over your position, you change 546 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: your rules, you do everything because it pays, and you 547 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 2: learn to sit when they say sit. 548 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: And that's the problem. 549 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: And so we have become a nation of people whose 550 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: primary concern is not upsetting the people who are always upset. 551 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: The problem with this is there is no end to 552 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,479 Speaker 2: this behavior, and as we're coming to learn, there are 553 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: real consequences. There are companies who no longer manufacture good products. 554 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: There are people in positions where you need to be 555 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: good at a skill and you lack that skill. But 556 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: you're a girl, but you're black, but you're this, but 557 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: you're that, and then you're failing at performing the task 558 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: because you had no business being there. 559 00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: Creates real problems. 560 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: Now the response to that is, Oh, you just don't 561 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 2: like women, Oh you just don't like blacks. Oh you 562 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: know that is an insulting thing to say, and it's 563 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: also a stupid thing to say. And I'm not going 564 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: to respond to it because it reflects more about you 565 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 2: than it does me. If that's what you think of me, 566 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: then I'm not going to change your opinion by disagreeing 567 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: with you. But also understand you have revealed your stupid Now, 568 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: if you're stupid and also black, or stupid and also 569 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: a woman, I'll just add that to your character profile. 570 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: You're taller, you're short, you're fat, or you're skinny, you're stupid, Okay, 571 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: And I will never change my opinion of you because 572 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: you have shown me you are stupid. And I'm not 573 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: hiring you because you're stupid. I don't care how much 574 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: that upsets you. You're not forcing me into that. And 575 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: when people start behaving this way. You don't have to 576 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: have Dei in the NBA. You don't have to have 577 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: Dei in the NFL because coaches only want the best 578 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: player on the field and fans demand that you win. 579 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: What an amazing world to live in, where winning or 580 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: losing would actually matter. You've seen this with Boeing, where 581 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: they've put people into positions that they can't handle them. 582 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: And you've got engine callings falling apart in midflight, wheels 583 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: falling off at takeoff, cockpit window glass cracking, engine failure. 584 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: You've got real, real problems. 585 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: And the airlines, not just the manufacturers, are having their 586 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 2: share of problems. A female pilot showed up to work 587 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: in street clothes and she tells the passengers that. 588 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: She's going through a divorce. 589 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: Now this says to me, this person is a person 590 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: is emotionally unstable, and I'll bet you that would have 591 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: been revealed all along the process of her becoming a pilot. 592 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: I don't have to tell you how important the job 593 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: of being a pilot is. Because fewer than two dozen, 594 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: fewer than twenty terrorists managed to hijack a few planes, 595 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: and it was the worst terror attack on American soil. 596 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: This is kind of a big job. Inside Edition revealed 597 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: the story. Here she is, she's not in her uniform, 598 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: but here she is having a moment before a flight. 599 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: Listen to this. Hey, if you don't feel safe, get 600 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: off the airplane. 601 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 11: This is your captain speaking, but never like this set. 602 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: I'll stop and we'll fly the airplane. Don't worry, I'm 603 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: going to let my co pilots fly it. 604 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 5: He's a man. 605 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 3: Okay. 606 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 11: It's a total milkdown. The pilot her street clothes. The 607 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 11: passengers over the intercoll Passenger panm O'Neill couldn't believe what 608 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 11: was happening. 609 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: She said, let's take a vote. 610 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 12: How many of you would like to take off now 611 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 12: with me dressed as I am? Or would you prefer 612 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 12: that I take ten minutes to get changed into my 613 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 12: cute little uniform. Then she started talking about her divorce 614 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 12: and political candidates in the minute. She mentioned that a 615 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 12: gentleman stood up and just yelled, blow enough, you're scaring me. 616 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 11: Another passenger, Randy Reese, got off the lead and gave 617 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 11: a running commentary on social media. Plot also insulted a 618 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 11: couple on board. 619 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: Did I offend you? Okay? So did I purposely offend you? 620 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 3: I did? 621 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: I did? 622 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: Answers yet pleased this on doors. 623 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 11: After twenty passengers insisted on getting off the United Airlines flight. 624 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 11: The pilot quietly left the aircraft. 625 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: Okay, if you don't feel fake, get off the airplane,