WEBVTT - Where are We with Cancel Culture? 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:09.639 This is and you're listening to exactly Amada, a production 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:12.640 of I Heart Radio. Well, today I'm changing things up 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:14.560 a little bit. We're gonna do a little song to 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:18.320 a little different because I actually have my producer Alex 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:20.400 coming in today. I want to him to pitch in 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:24.079 with me on this conversation because today I'm talking about 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.760 cancel culture. Alex, are you in here real quick? Oh, 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:29.880 I'm here. I'm here, and I'm ready to bring the 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:32.440 fire with you. A mata. Okay, we'll bring the fire 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.800 because you already know what's popping today's episode is really 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.519 it's like one of those sensitive topics that nobody really 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:41.040 wants to talk about. But like I know, y'all have 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.920 heard the cancel culture. And the more time goes by, 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:47.040 the more we hear, the more we see it on 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:53.000 social media, the more um celebrities, artists, influencers, actors, politicians, 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:56.240 everybody's getting canceled these days. Well, basically, how do you 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.640 feel about cancel culture? I feel like sometimes it just 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:04.200 get it's uh in people's heads that you know, they 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:07.240 got they gotta get into this pact mentality of of 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:10.920 of having to gang up on everyone, right, I mean, yes, 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.600 you do have those really bad people that have done 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.600 really bad things that definitely should get canceled them out of. 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:23.400 But sometimes, you know, even the little people who haven't 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:27.440 done anything that bad should get a little break. What 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:29.679 exactly is canceled culture, let me break down to you 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:33.679 real quick. So basically, it pretty much looks like canceling 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:38.360 someone over you disliking what they did or disliking what 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.480 they say. Yeah, it's like it's like basically canceling someone 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:44.160 over something detriment or scandalous, right if they said something 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.679 that you don't agree with. So basically you just like, 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.200 you know, cut up all types of you know, public 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:52.480 support or even internal support. You just make sure that 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:56.200 nobody supports them, likes them, everybody dismisses them. And and 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.680 it usually comes when someone says something offensive or when 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.040 someone and says something that can you know, be hurt 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.880 hurtful to a certain community or certain you know, certain 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:09.760 target of audience. I don't know, because a lot of 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.600 times I also feel that even though that's what is 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:16.120 defined someone as canceled culture, a lot of people get 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:19.560 canceled over petty things. It could be the smallest little thing, 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.400 And I feel like I don't know. We're in the 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:26.080 like a supersensitive uh error right now that you can't 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:29.360 say anything, you can't do anything without somebody feeling offended. 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.119 It's like, damn, you can't make everybody like you. You're 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.760 not always going to agree with everybody else, like we 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.480 have to disagree and disagree with each other. Doesn't mean 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.280 that I need to be canceled just because I don't 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:41.519 agree with you. It just means that we have different 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.400 perspectives on things. We just view things differently, and that 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:46.520 should be okay to People should have the rights to 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:50.919 voice their opinions without them feeling like, Damn, I can't 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.960 say I can't say something because if not, they're gonna 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.480 cancel me. And getting canceled could meet things like you 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.360 can get fired from your job, your family can like 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.200 look at you is a disgrace. Um, you can lose 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:05.079 a relationship, you can lose partnerships, you know you can. 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.880 You can lose many opportunities in your life based off 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:13.520 you giving your opinion. However, I do understand how giving 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:17.639 your opinions sometimes can be offensive. You know, it depends 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.160 how you say and what you say. But at the 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.040 same time, I still feel like you should be able 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.760 to speak your mind without feeling like you gotta be careful. 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.560 You have to be like walking on eggshells. No, yeah, 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:30.440 I agree, And you know what, I have an important 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:32.200 question to ask you now. I'm out to see I'm 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.320 putting my producer hat on here while i'm with you. Um, 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.000 I want to know. You're in the limelight. You are 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:41.280 in in on television, You're doing shows, You're everywhere, and 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.560 we're gonna talk a little bit later about one of 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:48.160 your new shows that but right now, how are you 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:52.200 How do you handle the things that are in you 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.200 know that you want to say basically right, like, it's 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.040 it's hard right because you're in You're in the public eye. 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.280 How do you deal with with all the negative civity 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.240 that comes from social media sometimes that people write things 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.880 because anyone can take anything you say, anything you're right back, 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.240 or anything that you post and spin it into their 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.560 own truth right and begin a cancel culture type of 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:17.480 of of attack on you. How do you deal with that? Amda? 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.000 It's the hardest thing. No, that I haven't did. It's 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.920 the hardest thing because I'm very transparent, honest, I'm very vocal, 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.839 I'm very myself very come, okay, this is this is 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.760 who I am, is exactly me, like take it or 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.360 leave it, you know, um. And I want to be 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.840 able to voice my opinion and just say exactly what's 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.040 on my mind. But I do know that because this 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:39.000 is still a business and I still live off, you know, 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.400 my audience, and I live off certain people. I never 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.120 want to offend anyone, but at the same time, I 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:44.840 want to speak my mind. I want to speak my truth. 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.320 I want to say, Yo, this is exactly how I feel. 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.760 And I can't always do that because I have to 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:54.800 be being careful. They can this isn't that? Can they 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:56.840 so fain that I know it feels like, oh my god, 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:00.800 she offended me with her words. Like for example, recently 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:05.320 Gang Gang Gang UM an episode came out where I 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:09.080 had a discussion talking about somewhat colorism on love and 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:13.160 hip hop Miami, and a lot of people are like, oh, 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.640 I can't believe. I'm not gonna get into the details, 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:17.440 but I can't believe you said that. You know, black 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.960 women need their own self, their own safe space. And 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:22.600 you know, a lot of people came for me, And 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:24.919 that's one of the things about being an activist or 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.719 one of the things about being vocal when it comes 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:31.520 about when it comes to race or politics or things 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:33.839 like that, that a lot of not everybody's gonna agree 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.359 with me, and a lot of people can take it 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:37.599 very personal. But one is still a TV show, so 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:39.680 we still need to be clear on that, right. Um, 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.000 things that people don't see. We have like a crew 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.640 of like twenty people in front of us, around us, 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:48.680 under us while we're filming. Um, we filmed for hours 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.400 and it gets edited into like four or three minutes 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:53.920 five three minutes scenes. And the show is not just 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.640 about me. It's about many people. So, like a lot 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:58.720 of the things that I may have said before I 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:02.440 said something that did get aired that may not come out. Um, 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:04.440 and then that's fine, you know, because people are gonna 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.480 perceive me however they want. But I feel that I 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.480 should have the rights to give my opinion. You know, 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.880 I'm not gonna get into that specific topic because you 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:17.240 already know they're trying to cancel me. But you know, 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:19.960 I think like people need to stop being so sensitive. 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:23.160 If you disagree with me, cool, It's okay. We're not 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:25.919 gonna agree with everything. You know, there's a lot of 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.080 things that you may do with your life that I'm 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.240 not cool with, And that doesn't mean that I'm going 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.520 to cancel you, I'm gonna stop supporting you, I'm gonna 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.799 stop messing with you. I'll just say I don't agree 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.320 with you in that part, and then that's just what 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.919 it is. UM. I do understand, however, how some people 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.960 can be very offensive with their words, how some people 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:48.040 can't say things like out of proportion that it's like, damn, 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:50.680 even I wouldn't have said that, because you do have 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:54.680 to think about people's feelings or emotions. Are certain communities 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:59.680 where people can make dumb comments that can affect certain communities. 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:01.840 But I think that everything to me is more of 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.400 a learning experience, Like if you say something dumb, okay, 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.000 let's all get together. Even though that a lot of 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:10.200 people feel like, well I'm too grown or I'm not 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.480 your teacher. I don't have to, but why can't it 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:17.040 be a learning experience? Not everybody, not everybody is coming 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:21.239 to nobody's perfect. People make mistakes. If you say something 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.320 and then you're like, you know, damn, I messed up. 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.160 I sucked up, right, you should have the rights to, 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.480 you know, say your piece. You messed up and then 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.000 we're going to support and support you again. But a 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.760 lot of people can still apologize, can write a biography 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.760 about how bad they feel. There's people that have said 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:43.640 comments that eventually have felt even suicidal just because of 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.440 the pressure that they feel from society and the hate 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.840 mail the soul. Especially now with social media, you know, 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.520 bullies going in and their d m s and just 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.280 wishing them death and all types of things based off 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.240 a couple of words of comment that they made. A 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.640 lot of people are not bad people, They just told 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.800 the wrong words to say in the wrong time. Do 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:08.320 you feel do you feel at all that it's it's 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:12.840 it's become a movement of people who feel there, uh, 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:16.400 they have the right to say or do something because 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.560 social media is an open platform the way it is, 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:22.400 I think it is. I think that a lot of 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:26.920 people are real, big, real strong, real confident, cocky, real 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:31.680 everything exactly right behind the little phones and the little messages. 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.080 But in person you'll see them and they won't have 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.000 that same energy. It's like bring that same energy. So 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.760 it's like you have a lot of goods to um 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:43.160 judge someone and I'm sure your life is trash. You know, 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:45.920 your life is. I'm sure it's nice and shitty, but 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:50.240 you'll have all these um all these like judgments towards 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.160 somebody's life and you don't even know what that person 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.439 may be going through, um or whatever the case may be. 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:58.520 It's so easy for people to be judgmental these days 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.720 without giving someone a break or at least for example, 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:05.000 on my new show that comes out now on Fused, 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:08.400 Don't Cancel Me. To me, it was more like, let 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.640 me give let me give you all the platform where 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:13.840 we can all have this discussion and I'm not going 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:15.840 to judge you for it, whether it is in my 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:17.760 case on the show we had like girls that we're 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:21.640 doing only fans or I don't know, talking about colorism 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.800 or talking about finance, you're talking about whatever. I don't 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:28.199 want to judge you. Help me understand. Why do you 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.559 feel this way? Because if you feel this way, whether 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:33.600 I agree or disagree, there's a whole bunch of people 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.960 they feel the same way. So why you know, try 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.640 to try to bring me into your world without me 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:43.679 being close minded, without me being judgmental, Help me understand. 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:45.520 And that's what I think it should be more of, 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.440 like for those that may have a certain opinion. It's 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:52.160 more of like, why do you feel this way? You know, 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.240 try to and and and let's share. Let's let's have 0:09:55.280 --> 0:10:00.200 an open conversation where without me having to get angry, disrespectful, know, 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:04.080 or whatever, I have a conversation. I think that people 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.320 don't want to don't want to talk at Everybody wants 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:17.920 to be heard, but nobody wants to listen. I like 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:21.400 that because this is twofold for me what I'm about 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.200 to bring up to you. One. Sometimes I feel that 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.720 people are just a little too soft. Like I come 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.160 from a different era, right, Like I come from an 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:33.200 era where there was no chat boards or or you know, 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.920 messaging apps or any social media. Right, we spoke face 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:39.560 to face and and we diffused the problem or we 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.640 just happened not to talk anymore. Right, So do you 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:45.560 feel that perhaps people are just too soft now and 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:49.560 they want to use the cancel culture mentality as an excuse, 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:51.840 you know, to act out and be the way that 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.560 they are. I think that people want to feel very 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.240 empowered these days. Everybody wants to be somebody. I'm not 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.720 saying that you're not, but everybody can't be some So 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.400 everybody wants to be somebody. Everybody wants to be empowered. 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:07.479 Everybody wants to feel like, you know, um, I'm in control. 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:10.440 I said this to this person, and and everybody wants 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.120 to point fingers. Everybody is ready to throw that rock 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:16.800 at someone. And it's like, your life isn't perfect. I'm 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.079 sure you've made many mistakes. I'm sure you've said a 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:20.920 lot of things that you deserve to be canceled. It 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.640 just happens to be nobody heard you, or that perhaps 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.800 you're not a public figure, or perhaps because I feel like, 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:30.319 imagine this if you when you have a breakup, for example, 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:32.520 I'm just gonna give a random example, but when you 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.080 have a breakup with someone and your hurt, and everybody's like, 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:36.680 you know, your friends are like, you know, trying to 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:39.720 tell you, like damn, that's messed up or whatever. Imagine 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:43.079 being in the public eye. Imagine having the whole world 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.920 looking at you, the whole world judging you. Anything that 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.160 you say, anything that you do, will be judged, and 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:52.120 not only judged, but judge in a bad way, Like 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.880 in a way that people automatically assume and feel that 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.040 they have the rights to stick their fingers all up 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.439 in your face and It's like, it can be very traumatizing. 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:04.360 It can be traumatizing for a lot of people. Not 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.920 everybody has that tough skin that they could be like, well, 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.720 you know, they canceled me. Life goes on and they'll 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.440 get over it. There's a lot of people. There's by 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.600 the way, there's a lot of artists that to me, 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:19.880 have done things and have been canceled and then they 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.480 have been uncancelled. But if they would have been a 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.800 regular person, meaning a person that's not in the public eye, 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:30.719 they would have never been off the canceled chair. I'm 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:35.480 gonna give you a perfect example. Don't canceled me for it. Battle. 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.280 I'm just gonna give a brief, low example. And I 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.440 love him and that's you know, he used to be 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.280 my baby daddy in my mind for a real long time. 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:47.319 Battle made up Chris Brown. When Chris Brown came and 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:49.960 he beat the hell out of Rihanna, and everybody went 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.600 through it. We all suffered with Rihanna, we all supported her, 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:55.240 we all did we you know, we were there say 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.960 no to violence, domestic abuse. That we all went through it. 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:03.320 His career year was trash for a while, not because 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:07.199 of his talent, but based off what he did, and 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:10.840 everybody canceled him. But because he's a public figure and 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:12.640 he can sing, and he can dance and do the 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:16.480 moonwalk and all these great things, and he apologized, well, 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:20.000 then we automatically it's Chris Brown, all right. That's it done. 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.200 He that's it. He's uncanceled. Now, if he would have 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.880 been a regular person, he would have been in jail somewhere, 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.760 or if people would still till this day be looking 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.600 at him in a negative light. So that's the only 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:35.000 bad thing about cancel culture to me. People choose who 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.520 they want to cancel and when they want to uncanceled them. 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.320 And that's the if he part, Because if we're going 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.679 to cancel you, let's all cancel you because what you 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.760 did was wrong. And do people have the rights to 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.600 make mistakes and come back from it, most definitely. But 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.960 I just hate that people choose who they want to 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:57.520 cancel when they want to cancel it, and and they 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.200 was good for one is good for all. And you 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.680 know what's funny is um you just mentioned that, and 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:07.679 the fact that people just choose who and why they 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.000 want to cancel people. You know, that's that's that's just 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:13.360 kind of crazy. Right, like they have the they're the judge, jury, 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.360 and executioner all at the same time. Right, do you 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:19.560 feel that perhaps when people go away for a while 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:24.560 to maybe rehab their thoughts and what they've done wrong 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:28.160 and come back? Uh, do you feel that that is 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:32.840 enough to uncanceled them to come back in all their 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.520 glory like a phoenix right right from the ashes? Or 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:38.880 should we just? Um? And and it also goes obviously 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.360 depending on how bad it's And we're gonna get into 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.680 that next with some examples of people who have been 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.800 canceled and what they have been canceled for. But do 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.760 you feel like it's okay for someone to go away 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.000 for a while come back someone who has been canceled 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:54.880 for nothing too crazy? Right? We don't want to talk 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:56.760 about abuse on a woman or anything like that. We 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:58.760 want to talk about little things. Maybe they said something 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:06.400 that and right, what do you feel? Umm? Well, I 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:11.160 mean what's not too bad? Like who was not too bad? Okay, 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:14.920 here's here's an example. Because everyone gets canceled now for 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:18.240 their political views, right, um, And we'll get into this 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:22.920 now then, I guess, right, So we have Goya foods, Right, 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:28.080 we know that during the pandemic um. Certain people called 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:32.400 for Goya Foods boycott after the company company's chief executive 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.800 officer praised Mr Trump at an event at the White House. 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:40.520 That's crazy, right, or someone in the who has a 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:45.560 political belief and owns a big company like Goya, uh 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:50.000 went under the cancel culture immediately. On the other side, 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:54.080 the reason many Latinos were calling for a boycott was 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:57.840 because Trump has a history of making disparaging remarks about Latinos, 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:02.240 and you know, Latinos are the primary consumers of Goya products. 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:04.640 Do you feel like that's something that people could just 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:06.480 forgive and be like, all right, cool. You know, he's 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.400 just a he follows Mr Trump, and that is that. 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.760 We love to go your brand, We always will, Like, 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.040 how do you feel about that? Medea? There's a lot 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.480 of things that there's a lot of things that I 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:22.120 disagree right with Trump and this is not getting into politics. 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:24.080 A lot of things that I disagree with Trump. There's 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:25.560 a lot of things that I disagree with a lot 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.480 of politicians. There's a lot of things I disagree with Biden. 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.280 Now you know, there's a lot of there's a lot 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:33.520 of things I disagree when it comes to politics. Because 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:37.720 there's a very sensitive topic. However, he has the rights 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.320 to have his beliefs, he has the rights to support 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:42.640 whoever he wants. It doesn't take away from the fact 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:48.280 that we going your products is still good, you know personally, right. UM. 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:51.920 I do understand how sometimes we see them like damn, 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:56.720 you know, they're supporting this person or this um, you know, whatever, 0:16:56.800 --> 0:17:00.440 they're supporting whoever the case may be. And we're over 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.480 here giving our money to this company while this company 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.720 is using that profit, that money to reinforce Like I 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.240 get those parts, But it's the same thing that happened 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:13.639 with Gucci. For a long time, Gucci, nobody wanted to 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:17.080 wear Gucci because Gucci, you know, did some designs and 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.320 they did the rope and they did this and we've 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.640 heard comments like we've heard comments from other bigger brands. 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.440 To my understanding, it made me wrong, but I think 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.920 it was a Tommy Hill figure. And we've heard so 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:34.000 many comments from different places. And guess what people boycotted 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:37.240 Gucci for, Like, you know, two weeks, have they stopped 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.720 rocking it, have they stopped buying it? No? I feel 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:45.560 the people's uh, short term memory, short term memory, they 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.600 have short term memory, and you're like all mad like 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.000 right now, and then like a week or two passes 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.320 by and you don't even remember why you're mad. So 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:54.959 this is that, This is how I know you're like, 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.760 you don't really take it to heart. You you you 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.640 just want to be mad, and you also want to follow. 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.040 Because we also live in a world for the followers. 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:06.639 There's there are few leaders these days, a few people 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:08.680 that are willing to say, you know what, I'm gonna 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.720 take the pressure. I'm gonna take it boom. It is 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:15.480 what it is that I'll take whatever happens, I'll be 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.360 responsible for. I don't know. We want to follow. It's like, oh, 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:21.720 you don't like this. I don't like them either. You 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.439 don't even know why, you don't know? Yeah, and you 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:26.960 know what sucks. The politics thing is is always the 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.880 number one thing. Any public company or any public ceo, 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:35.960 any public person automatically aligned themselves with whomever right, left 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:39.359 or right. I feel like the public immediately like gets 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.200 this like enraged look in their eye and they want 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:44.439 to cancel somebody like if I'm out able to come 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.080 out tomorrow morning and I'm not getting political, but where 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.840 to say, hey, uh, you know I really like that 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.240 one thing that Trump did for you know, for us, 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.040 like the most this one time. I feel like, man, 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:57.479 the world would go after you in the wrong way, 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.960 and it's all because of their personal beliefs. It's nothing 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:05.120 that you have done wrong. Yeah, yeah, for share most definitely. UM. 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:08.840 And then that's why it's a very sensitive place when artists, influencers, 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:13.040 people in the public eye, UM, involve themselves with politicians. 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.760 It's very sensitive because you can lose a big fan 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:19.080 base for it. But at the same time and be like, Papa, Mama, 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:21.359 let me do something. I get that part a thousand percent, 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:23.520 and we have to keep our morals and all right, 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:27.160 throwing everything together, but can you pay my bills? Can 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:30.119 you pay telephone bill? No? And don't say what do 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:31.760 you think that they're standing there to this person they 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:35.119 get for free? No, Mama, they're there because of the money. 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.159 And don't say they pay really good. So what do 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:39.560 a lot of these people or a lot of these 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.000 artists do. They stuck it up and be like, look, 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:45.040 most likely I don't support you. Deep down inside, I 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:46.760 don't believe in n of the crap that you're saying. 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:49.119 But you're putting a check in my bank account and 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:51.200 like this, I'm going to feed my family. The part 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:54.879 that people don't see because people enjoy to just you know, 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.720 point fingers. When it comes to politics, it's very sensitive. 0:19:57.760 --> 0:19:59.560 A lot of politicians a good things, but at the 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:01.760 same time they can destroy by doing something else and 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:03.640 it's like, damn, I supported you for this, but then 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:06.119 you just messed up with that. So I don't know 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:09.240 how to feel. And that goes for both parties. But 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:12.760 away from that, UM, there's been artists, celebrities that has 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:15.639 spoken about the l g B t Q plus community 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.359 and that that has been For example, the Baby was 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:22.240 one of them. He recently went through something that was terrible. 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:24.800 Now my question to you is do you believe that 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:28.120 he should be canceled? Well, obviously he already has been canceled, 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:32.159 but recently I also read that after he apologized and 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:36.080 they educated him on the topic, now now they have 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:39.359 forgiven him and now he's no longer canceled. How do 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:42.120 you feel about that? I I you know, and it's 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:44.679 it's crazy right because I believe that people have the 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:49.120 right to um be themselves, be who they are right 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.880 and love themselves as as they are and what they 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:54.439 think they are. So you know why he's gonna get 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:58.280 He's it's hard. It's hard because his thought on what 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:03.159 that whole deal was, Um, it was something that he 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:06.440