Speaker 1: This is and you're listening to exactly Amada, a production
Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. Well, today I'm changing things up
Speaker 1: a little bit. We're gonna do a little song to
Speaker 1: a little different because I actually have my producer Alex
Speaker 1: coming in today. I want to him to pitch in
Speaker 1: with me on this conversation because today I'm talking about
Speaker 1: cancel culture. Alex, are you in here real quick? Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm here. I'm here, and I'm ready to bring the
Speaker 1: fire with you. A mata. Okay, we'll bring the fire
Speaker 1: because you already know what's popping today's episode is really
Speaker 1: it's like one of those sensitive topics that nobody really
Speaker 1: wants to talk about. But like I know, y'all have
Speaker 1: heard the cancel culture. And the more time goes by,
Speaker 1: the more we hear, the more we see it on
Speaker 1: social media, the more um celebrities, artists, influencers, actors, politicians,
Speaker 1: everybody's getting canceled these days. Well, basically, how do you
Speaker 1: feel about cancel culture? I feel like sometimes it just
Speaker 1: get it's uh in people's heads that you know, they
Speaker 1: got they gotta get into this pact mentality of of
Speaker 1: of having to gang up on everyone, right, I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: you do have those really bad people that have done
Speaker 1: really bad things that definitely should get canceled them out of.
Speaker 1: But sometimes, you know, even the little people who haven't
Speaker 1: done anything that bad should get a little break. What
Speaker 1: exactly is canceled culture, let me break down to you
Speaker 1: real quick. So basically, it pretty much looks like canceling
Speaker 1: someone over you disliking what they did or disliking what
Speaker 1: they say. Yeah, it's like it's like basically canceling someone
Speaker 1: over something detriment or scandalous, right if they said something
Speaker 1: that you don't agree with. So basically you just like,
Speaker 1: you know, cut up all types of you know, public
Speaker 1: support or even internal support. You just make sure that
Speaker 1: nobody supports them, likes them, everybody dismisses them. And and
Speaker 1: it usually comes when someone says something offensive or when
Speaker 1: someone and says something that can you know, be hurt
Speaker 1: hurtful to a certain community or certain you know, certain
Speaker 1: target of audience. I don't know, because a lot of
Speaker 1: times I also feel that even though that's what is
Speaker 1: defined someone as canceled culture, a lot of people get
Speaker 1: canceled over petty things. It could be the smallest little thing,
Speaker 1: And I feel like I don't know. We're in the
Speaker 1: like a supersensitive uh error right now that you can't
Speaker 1: say anything, you can't do anything without somebody feeling offended.
Speaker 1: It's like, damn, you can't make everybody like you. You're
Speaker 1: not always going to agree with everybody else, like we
Speaker 1: have to disagree and disagree with each other. Doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that I need to be canceled just because I don't
Speaker 1: agree with you. It just means that we have different
Speaker 1: perspectives on things. We just view things differently, and that
Speaker 1: should be okay to People should have the rights to
Speaker 1: voice their opinions without them feeling like, Damn, I can't
Speaker 1: say I can't say something because if not, they're gonna
Speaker 1: cancel me. And getting canceled could meet things like you
Speaker 1: can get fired from your job, your family can like
Speaker 1: look at you is a disgrace. Um, you can lose
Speaker 1: a relationship, you can lose partnerships, you know you can.
Speaker 1: You can lose many opportunities in your life based off
Speaker 1: you giving your opinion. However, I do understand how giving
Speaker 1: your opinions sometimes can be offensive. You know, it depends
Speaker 1: how you say and what you say. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I still feel like you should be able
Speaker 1: to speak your mind without feeling like you gotta be careful.
Speaker 1: You have to be like walking on eggshells. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, And you know what, I have an important
Speaker 1: question to ask you now. I'm out to see I'm
Speaker 1: putting my producer hat on here while i'm with you. Um,
Speaker 1: I want to know. You're in the limelight. You are
Speaker 1: in in on television, You're doing shows, You're everywhere, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk a little bit later about one of
Speaker 1: your new shows that but right now, how are you
Speaker 1: How do you handle the things that are in you
Speaker 1: know that you want to say basically right, like, it's
Speaker 1: it's hard right because you're in You're in the public eye.
Speaker 1: How do you deal with with all the negative civity
Speaker 1: that comes from social media sometimes that people write things
Speaker 1: because anyone can take anything you say, anything you're right back,
Speaker 1: or anything that you post and spin it into their
Speaker 1: own truth right and begin a cancel culture type of
Speaker 1: of of attack on you. How do you deal with that? Amda?
Speaker 1: It's the hardest thing. No, that I haven't did. It's
Speaker 1: the hardest thing because I'm very transparent, honest, I'm very vocal,
Speaker 1: I'm very myself very come, okay, this is this is
Speaker 1: who I am, is exactly me, like take it or
Speaker 1: leave it, you know, um. And I want to be
Speaker 1: able to voice my opinion and just say exactly what's
Speaker 1: on my mind. But I do know that because this
Speaker 1: is still a business and I still live off, you know,
Speaker 1: my audience, and I live off certain people. I never
Speaker 1: want to offend anyone, but at the same time, I
Speaker 1: want to speak my mind. I want to speak my truth.
Speaker 1: I want to say, Yo, this is exactly how I feel.
Speaker 1: And I can't always do that because I have to
Speaker 1: be being careful. They can this isn't that? Can they
Speaker 1: so fain that I know it feels like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: she offended me with her words. Like for example, recently
Speaker 1: Gang Gang Gang UM an episode came out where I
Speaker 1: had a discussion talking about somewhat colorism on love and
Speaker 1: hip hop Miami, and a lot of people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't believe. I'm not gonna get into the details,
Speaker 1: but I can't believe you said that. You know, black
Speaker 1: women need their own self, their own safe space. And
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people came for me, And
Speaker 1: that's one of the things about being an activist or
Speaker 1: one of the things about being vocal when it comes
Speaker 1: about when it comes to race or politics or things
Speaker 1: like that, that a lot of not everybody's gonna agree
Speaker 1: with me, and a lot of people can take it
Speaker 1: very personal. But one is still a TV show, so
Speaker 1: we still need to be clear on that, right. Um,
Speaker 1: things that people don't see. We have like a crew
Speaker 1: of like twenty people in front of us, around us,
Speaker 1: under us while we're filming. Um, we filmed for hours
Speaker 1: and it gets edited into like four or three minutes
Speaker 1: five three minutes scenes. And the show is not just
Speaker 1: about me. It's about many people. So, like a lot
Speaker 1: of the things that I may have said before I
Speaker 1: said something that did get aired that may not come out. Um,
Speaker 1: and then that's fine, you know, because people are gonna
Speaker 1: perceive me however they want. But I feel that I
Speaker 1: should have the rights to give my opinion. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get into that specific topic because you
Speaker 1: already know they're trying to cancel me. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think like people need to stop being so sensitive.
Speaker 1: If you disagree with me, cool, It's okay. We're not
Speaker 1: gonna agree with everything. You know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: things that you may do with your life that I'm
Speaker 1: not cool with, And that doesn't mean that I'm going
Speaker 1: to cancel you, I'm gonna stop supporting you, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stop messing with you. I'll just say I don't agree
Speaker 1: with you in that part, and then that's just what
Speaker 1: it is. UM. I do understand, however, how some people
Speaker 1: can be very offensive with their words, how some people
Speaker 1: can't say things like out of proportion that it's like, damn,
Speaker 1: even I wouldn't have said that, because you do have
Speaker 1: to think about people's feelings or emotions. Are certain communities
Speaker 1: where people can make dumb comments that can affect certain communities.
Speaker 1: But I think that everything to me is more of
Speaker 1: a learning experience, Like if you say something dumb, okay,
Speaker 1: let's all get together. Even though that a lot of
Speaker 1: people feel like, well I'm too grown or I'm not
Speaker 1: your teacher. I don't have to, but why can't it
Speaker 1: be a learning experience? Not everybody, not everybody is coming
Speaker 1: to nobody's perfect. People make mistakes. If you say something
Speaker 1: and then you're like, you know, damn, I messed up.
Speaker 1: I sucked up, right, you should have the rights to,
Speaker 1: you know, say your piece. You messed up and then
Speaker 1: we're going to support and support you again. But a
Speaker 1: lot of people can still apologize, can write a biography
Speaker 1: about how bad they feel. There's people that have said
Speaker 1: comments that eventually have felt even suicidal just because of
Speaker 1: the pressure that they feel from society and the hate
Speaker 1: mail the soul. Especially now with social media, you know,
Speaker 1: bullies going in and their d m s and just
Speaker 1: wishing them death and all types of things based off
Speaker 1: a couple of words of comment that they made. A
Speaker 1: lot of people are not bad people, They just told
Speaker 1: the wrong words to say in the wrong time. Do
Speaker 1: you feel do you feel at all that it's it's
Speaker 1: it's become a movement of people who feel there, uh,
Speaker 1: they have the right to say or do something because
Speaker 1: social media is an open platform the way it is,
Speaker 1: I think it is. I think that a lot of
Speaker 1: people are real, big, real strong, real confident, cocky, real
Speaker 1: everything exactly right behind the little phones and the little messages.
Speaker 1: But in person you'll see them and they won't have
Speaker 1: that same energy. It's like bring that same energy. So
Speaker 1: it's like you have a lot of goods to um
Speaker 1: judge someone and I'm sure your life is trash. You know,
Speaker 1: your life is. I'm sure it's nice and shitty, but
Speaker 1: you'll have all these um all these like judgments towards
Speaker 1: somebody's life and you don't even know what that person
Speaker 1: may be going through, um or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1: It's so easy for people to be judgmental these days
Speaker 1: without giving someone a break or at least for example,
Speaker 1: on my new show that comes out now on Fused,
Speaker 1: Don't Cancel Me. To me, it was more like, let
Speaker 1: me give let me give you all the platform where
Speaker 1: we can all have this discussion and I'm not going
Speaker 1: to judge you for it, whether it is in my
Speaker 1: case on the show we had like girls that we're
Speaker 1: doing only fans or I don't know, talking about colorism
Speaker 1: or talking about finance, you're talking about whatever. I don't
Speaker 1: want to judge you. Help me understand. Why do you
Speaker 1: feel this way? Because if you feel this way, whether
Speaker 1: I agree or disagree, there's a whole bunch of people
Speaker 1: they feel the same way. So why you know, try
Speaker 1: to try to bring me into your world without me
Speaker 1: being close minded, without me being judgmental, Help me understand.
Speaker 1: And that's what I think it should be more of,
Speaker 1: like for those that may have a certain opinion. It's
Speaker 1: more of like, why do you feel this way? You know,
Speaker 1: try to and and and let's share. Let's let's have
Speaker 1: an open conversation where without me having to get angry, disrespectful, know,
Speaker 1: or whatever, I have a conversation. I think that people
Speaker 1: don't want to don't want to talk at Everybody wants
Speaker 1: to be heard, but nobody wants to listen. I like
Speaker 1: that because this is twofold for me what I'm about
Speaker 1: to bring up to you. One. Sometimes I feel that
Speaker 1: people are just a little too soft. Like I come
Speaker 1: from a different era, right, Like I come from an
Speaker 1: era where there was no chat boards or or you know,
Speaker 1: messaging apps or any social media. Right, we spoke face
Speaker 1: to face and and we diffused the problem or we
Speaker 1: just happened not to talk anymore. Right, So do you
Speaker 1: feel that perhaps people are just too soft now and
Speaker 1: they want to use the cancel culture mentality as an excuse,
Speaker 1: you know, to act out and be the way that
Speaker 1: they are. I think that people want to feel very
Speaker 1: empowered these days. Everybody wants to be somebody. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that you're not, but everybody can't be some So
Speaker 1: everybody wants to be somebody. Everybody wants to be empowered.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to feel like, you know, um, I'm in control.
Speaker 1: I said this to this person, and and everybody wants
Speaker 1: to point fingers. Everybody is ready to throw that rock
Speaker 1: at someone. And it's like, your life isn't perfect. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you've made many mistakes. I'm sure you've said a
Speaker 1: lot of things that you deserve to be canceled. It
Speaker 1: just happens to be nobody heard you, or that perhaps
Speaker 1: you're not a public figure, or perhaps because I feel like,
Speaker 1: imagine this if you when you have a breakup, for example,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give a random example, but when you
Speaker 1: have a breakup with someone and your hurt, and everybody's like,
Speaker 1: you know, your friends are like, you know, trying to
Speaker 1: tell you, like damn, that's messed up or whatever. Imagine
Speaker 1: being in the public eye. Imagine having the whole world
Speaker 1: looking at you, the whole world judging you. Anything that
Speaker 1: you say, anything that you do, will be judged, and
Speaker 1: not only judged, but judge in a bad way, Like
Speaker 1: in a way that people automatically assume and feel that
Speaker 1: they have the rights to stick their fingers all up
Speaker 1: in your face and It's like, it can be very traumatizing.
Speaker 1: It can be traumatizing for a lot of people. Not
Speaker 1: everybody has that tough skin that they could be like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, they canceled me. Life goes on and they'll
Speaker 1: get over it. There's a lot of people. There's by
Speaker 1: the way, there's a lot of artists that to me,
Speaker 1: have done things and have been canceled and then they
Speaker 1: have been uncancelled. But if they would have been a
Speaker 1: regular person, meaning a person that's not in the public eye,
Speaker 1: they would have never been off the canceled chair. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you a perfect example. Don't canceled me for it. Battle.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give a brief, low example. And I
Speaker 1: love him and that's you know, he used to be
Speaker 1: my baby daddy in my mind for a real long time.
Speaker 1: Battle made up Chris Brown. When Chris Brown came and
Speaker 1: he beat the hell out of Rihanna, and everybody went
Speaker 1: through it. We all suffered with Rihanna, we all supported her,
Speaker 1: we all did we you know, we were there say
Speaker 1: no to violence, domestic abuse. That we all went through it.
Speaker 1: His career year was trash for a while, not because
Speaker 1: of his talent, but based off what he did, and
Speaker 1: everybody canceled him. But because he's a public figure and
Speaker 1: he can sing, and he can dance and do the
Speaker 1: moonwalk and all these great things, and he apologized, well,
Speaker 1: then we automatically it's Chris Brown, all right. That's it done.
Speaker 1: He that's it. He's uncanceled. Now, if he would have
Speaker 1: been a regular person, he would have been in jail somewhere,
Speaker 1: or if people would still till this day be looking
Speaker 1: at him in a negative light. So that's the only
Speaker 1: bad thing about cancel culture to me. People choose who
Speaker 1: they want to cancel and when they want to uncanceled them.
Speaker 1: And that's the if he part, Because if we're going
Speaker 1: to cancel you, let's all cancel you because what you
Speaker 1: did was wrong. And do people have the rights to
Speaker 1: make mistakes and come back from it, most definitely. But
Speaker 1: I just hate that people choose who they want to
Speaker 1: cancel when they want to cancel it, and and they
Speaker 1: was good for one is good for all. And you
Speaker 1: know what's funny is um you just mentioned that, and
Speaker 1: the fact that people just choose who and why they
Speaker 1: want to cancel people. You know, that's that's that's just
Speaker 1: kind of crazy. Right, like they have the they're the judge, jury,
Speaker 1: and executioner all at the same time. Right, do you
Speaker 1: feel that perhaps when people go away for a while
Speaker 1: to maybe rehab their thoughts and what they've done wrong
Speaker 1: and come back? Uh, do you feel that that is
Speaker 1: enough to uncanceled them to come back in all their
Speaker 1: glory like a phoenix right right from the ashes? Or
Speaker 1: should we just? Um? And and it also goes obviously
Speaker 1: depending on how bad it's And we're gonna get into
Speaker 1: that next with some examples of people who have been
Speaker 1: canceled and what they have been canceled for. But do
Speaker 1: you feel like it's okay for someone to go away
Speaker 1: for a while come back someone who has been canceled
Speaker 1: for nothing too crazy? Right? We don't want to talk
Speaker 1: about abuse on a woman or anything like that. We
Speaker 1: want to talk about little things. Maybe they said something
Speaker 1: that and right, what do you feel? Umm? Well, I
Speaker 1: mean what's not too bad? Like who was not too bad? Okay,
Speaker 1: here's here's an example. Because everyone gets canceled now for
Speaker 1: their political views, right, um, And we'll get into this
Speaker 1: now then, I guess, right, So we have Goya foods, Right,
Speaker 1: we know that during the pandemic um. Certain people called
Speaker 1: for Goya Foods boycott after the company company's chief executive
Speaker 1: officer praised Mr Trump at an event at the White House.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, right, or someone in the who has a
Speaker 1: political belief and owns a big company like Goya, uh
Speaker 1: went under the cancel culture immediately. On the other side,
Speaker 1: the reason many Latinos were calling for a boycott was
Speaker 1: because Trump has a history of making disparaging remarks about Latinos,
Speaker 1: and you know, Latinos are the primary consumers of Goya products.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like that's something that people could just
Speaker 1: forgive and be like, all right, cool. You know, he's
Speaker 1: just a he follows Mr Trump, and that is that.
Speaker 1: We love to go your brand, We always will, Like,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about that? Medea? There's a lot
Speaker 1: of things that there's a lot of things that I
Speaker 1: disagree right with Trump and this is not getting into politics.
Speaker 1: A lot of things that I disagree with Trump. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of things that I disagree with a lot
Speaker 1: of politicians. There's a lot of things I disagree with Biden.
Speaker 1: Now you know, there's a lot of there's a lot
Speaker 1: of things I disagree when it comes to politics. Because
Speaker 1: there's a very sensitive topic. However, he has the rights
Speaker 1: to have his beliefs, he has the rights to support
Speaker 1: whoever he wants. It doesn't take away from the fact
Speaker 1: that we going your products is still good, you know personally, right. UM.
Speaker 1: I do understand how sometimes we see them like damn,
Speaker 1: you know, they're supporting this person or this um, you know, whatever,
Speaker 1: they're supporting whoever the case may be. And we're over
Speaker 1: here giving our money to this company while this company
Speaker 1: is using that profit, that money to reinforce Like I
Speaker 1: get those parts, But it's the same thing that happened
Speaker 1: with Gucci. For a long time, Gucci, nobody wanted to
Speaker 1: wear Gucci because Gucci, you know, did some designs and
Speaker 1: they did the rope and they did this and we've
Speaker 1: heard comments like we've heard comments from other bigger brands.
Speaker 1: To my understanding, it made me wrong, but I think
Speaker 1: it was a Tommy Hill figure. And we've heard so
Speaker 1: many comments from different places. And guess what people boycotted
Speaker 1: Gucci for, Like, you know, two weeks, have they stopped
Speaker 1: rocking it, have they stopped buying it? No? I feel
Speaker 1: the people's uh, short term memory, short term memory, they
Speaker 1: have short term memory, and you're like all mad like
Speaker 1: right now, and then like a week or two passes
Speaker 1: by and you don't even remember why you're mad. So
Speaker 1: this is that, This is how I know you're like,
Speaker 1: you don't really take it to heart. You you you
Speaker 1: just want to be mad, and you also want to follow.
Speaker 1: Because we also live in a world for the followers.
Speaker 1: There's there are few leaders these days, a few people
Speaker 1: that are willing to say, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take the pressure. I'm gonna take it boom. It is
Speaker 1: what it is that I'll take whatever happens, I'll be
Speaker 1: responsible for. I don't know. We want to follow. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you don't like this. I don't like them either. You
Speaker 1: don't even know why, you don't know? Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: know what sucks. The politics thing is is always the
Speaker 1: number one thing. Any public company or any public ceo,
Speaker 1: any public person automatically aligned themselves with whomever right, left
Speaker 1: or right. I feel like the public immediately like gets
Speaker 1: this like enraged look in their eye and they want
Speaker 1: to cancel somebody like if I'm out able to come
Speaker 1: out tomorrow morning and I'm not getting political, but where
Speaker 1: to say, hey, uh, you know I really like that
Speaker 1: one thing that Trump did for you know, for us,
Speaker 1: like the most this one time. I feel like, man,
Speaker 1: the world would go after you in the wrong way,
Speaker 1: and it's all because of their personal beliefs. It's nothing
Speaker 1: that you have done wrong. Yeah, yeah, for share most definitely. UM.
Speaker 1: And then that's why it's a very sensitive place when artists, influencers,
Speaker 1: people in the public eye, UM, involve themselves with politicians.
Speaker 1: It's very sensitive because you can lose a big fan
Speaker 1: base for it. But at the same time and be like, Papa, Mama,
Speaker 1: let me do something. I get that part a thousand percent,
Speaker 1: and we have to keep our morals and all right,
Speaker 1: throwing everything together, but can you pay my bills? Can
Speaker 1: you pay telephone bill? No? And don't say what do
Speaker 1: you think that they're standing there to this person they
Speaker 1: get for free? No, Mama, they're there because of the money.
Speaker 1: And don't say they pay really good. So what do
Speaker 1: a lot of these people or a lot of these
Speaker 1: artists do. They stuck it up and be like, look,
Speaker 1: most likely I don't support you. Deep down inside, I
Speaker 1: don't believe in n of the crap that you're saying.
Speaker 1: But you're putting a check in my bank account and
Speaker 1: like this, I'm going to feed my family. The part
Speaker 1: that people don't see because people enjoy to just you know,
Speaker 1: point fingers. When it comes to politics, it's very sensitive.
Speaker 1: A lot of politicians a good things, but at the
Speaker 1: same time they can destroy by doing something else and
Speaker 1: it's like, damn, I supported you for this, but then
Speaker 1: you just messed up with that. So I don't know
Speaker 1: how to feel. And that goes for both parties. But
Speaker 1: away from that, UM, there's been artists, celebrities that has
Speaker 1: spoken about the l g B t Q plus community
Speaker 1: and that that has been For example, the Baby was
Speaker 1: one of them. He recently went through something that was terrible.
Speaker 1: Now my question to you is do you believe that
Speaker 1: he should be canceled? Well, obviously he already has been canceled,
Speaker 1: but recently I also read that after he apologized and
Speaker 1: they educated him on the topic, now now they have
Speaker 1: forgiven him and now he's no longer canceled. How do
Speaker 1: you feel about that? I I you know, and it's
Speaker 1: it's crazy right because I believe that people have the
Speaker 1: right to um be themselves, be who they are right
Speaker 1: and love themselves as as they are and what they
Speaker 1: think they are. So you know why he's gonna get
Speaker 1: He's it's hard. It's hard because his thought on what
Speaker 1: that whole deal was, Um, it was something that he
Speaker 1: he just spewed it out without you know, getting educated
Speaker 1: on right, and then finally he went and got educated
Speaker 1: on it. And look where he's at now. Another person
Speaker 1: that has has dealt with that, and I'm glad you
Speaker 1: brought up like the whole like entertainment and and celebrity
Speaker 1: side of things is j k Rowling. She's the the
Speaker 1: author of the Harry Potter series. She went into Twitter
Speaker 1: in supportive woman with history of making comments that seemed transphobic.
Speaker 1: This British researcher, who J. K Rowling was basically supporting,
Speaker 1: was fired from her job for tweeting, you know, a
Speaker 1: serious of statements about proposed changes to gender recognition. This
Speaker 1: this whole new act now where parents could the baby
Speaker 1: could be genderless. I don't know if he heard about this. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're doing it in the passports now too. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Okay, yeah, or or or wait,
Speaker 1: oh here's a good one. Here's a good one that
Speaker 1: people are also somewhat getting canceled for on the low,
Speaker 1: and they haven't. I still haven't seen like a big
Speaker 1: celebrity has been super canceled for publicly like. But I've
Speaker 1: heard comments here and there. Here it goes another one.
Speaker 1: Pro life lifeous Now, that is a huge thing that's
Speaker 1: currently happening right now, and there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: that are canceling other people for their opinion. Whether you
Speaker 1: agree or disagree me, No, you don't have to agree
Speaker 1: with that person. Well that's just me. Listen, I don't
Speaker 1: agree with what you said, and I sit, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: live my life and I'm gonna do what I think
Speaker 1: is right, and then that's it. But that's another thing
Speaker 1: that's currently happening right now. There's a lot of people
Speaker 1: getting canceled for voicing their opinion, whether it is pro
Speaker 1: choice or pro life. And that's another thing that I
Speaker 1: believe shouldn't be even a conversation or an issue. You
Speaker 1: want to be pro life, I mean, live your life
Speaker 1: and if you want to have you know, a whole
Speaker 1: football field full of children, I'm in you should have
Speaker 1: the right to do that with your vagina if you
Speaker 1: have one, if you don't have one. This shouldn't even
Speaker 1: be a conversation that you should be having in the
Speaker 1: first place, to my understanding, because if it doesn't come
Speaker 1: out of your body, it shouldn't come out of your mouth. However,
Speaker 1: for those that choose to be a pro choice, if
Speaker 1: you choose not to want to go through the process,
Speaker 1: not to want to have children, not to want to
Speaker 1: have to give birth to a ten pound baby through
Speaker 1: your vagina, if you choose not to want, you shouldn't
Speaker 1: have to do it. That's just my opinion. UM, I
Speaker 1: do understand that there should be, you know, certain limits.
Speaker 1: I will agree with that. You know, if you are
Speaker 1: already like halfway into your pregnancy, like there's a whole
Speaker 1: human being already set up in here, maybe you know
Speaker 1: that's something that you know there should be perhaps something
Speaker 1: we need to figure out. Um, But even now, and
Speaker 1: and this is a topic that we'll discuss on another
Speaker 1: episode because this is like a really important topic. But
Speaker 1: even now, talking about like, oh, well six weeks in, um,
Speaker 1: you know you can't talk about you know, you can't
Speaker 1: talk about Okay, I'm gonna have an abortion, it has
Speaker 1: to be less than six weekends. Well, how about this.
Speaker 1: I found out that I was pregnant eight months and
Speaker 1: some weeks in because I've always been I've still being pregnant.
Speaker 1: I have a whole six pack and I never even
Speaker 1: could tell. So it's for those it is like your
Speaker 1: first time or whatever. You may not know or even
Speaker 1: if you got raped, or even if you got molested,
Speaker 1: or even if you did it with someone whatever the
Speaker 1: kids may be. Just to know that you don't even
Speaker 1: have that choice, that's kind of messed up. Um And
Speaker 1: and like in for example, in my country, that's illegal
Speaker 1: to have abortions in the first place. So then you
Speaker 1: see women just throwing the babies in a garbage bag
Speaker 1: in the streets. You see them going to these underground
Speaker 1: doctors you see, and women are you know, getting infections
Speaker 1: and all types of things and they're dying. You see
Speaker 1: um children, little kids abandoned in the street asking for
Speaker 1: money because they don't even have any parents. They just
Speaker 1: threw them out to the streets and whoever you know
Speaker 1: has some sympathy will give them play the food. But
Speaker 1: it's like, if you really pay attention, you may be
Speaker 1: solving a problem and studying another one. So for those
Speaker 1: that have been vocal about their opinions, whether like I
Speaker 1: said before, it's pro choice because you have the rights
Speaker 1: to choose to do whatever you want, or you choose life.
Speaker 1: You have the rights to fill this world full of
Speaker 1: beautiful babies and beautiful human beings. You shouldn't be canceled
Speaker 1: for voicing your opinion. Yeah, that's that's it. You know.
Speaker 1: That's again, that's a borderline one. Like we just spoke about, right,
Speaker 1: there's there's uh, there's the extreme, right, there's the extreme
Speaker 1: of of things that people have done like uh, you know,
Speaker 1: for example, daytime television style and generous right. She was
Speaker 1: canceled after being accused of fostering a toxic workplace culture
Speaker 1: in her you know, in the show if you remember
Speaker 1: The Ellen Show, Um, it returned in September, but um,
Speaker 1: it's been officially now canceled. Uh it is, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah. She mentioned she put out a tweet
Speaker 1: and anything on Instagram saying that, you know, she was
Speaker 1: going to cancel the show. And I think it's because
Speaker 1: it came down hard. You know, it came down hard
Speaker 1: on her and everyone else there. This cancel culture thing
Speaker 1: is real. It's real. And when it when it strikes
Speaker 1: down as hard as it did for her, and it
Speaker 1: was something that listen. Um, eventually somebody's gonna speak, uh,
Speaker 1: months from now, a year from now, whenever, about what
Speaker 1: happened exactly behind that show, right, and then maybe the
Speaker 1: council community that gathered together to cancel that show, maybe yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe they maybe they'll seem like heroes for you know.
Speaker 1: What's really trashy about that too, is like people are
Speaker 1: so ready to judge and so ready to point the fingers,
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, so then are we going to
Speaker 1: forget all these years of hard work that she's done,
Speaker 1: all these years of good things that she's done for
Speaker 1: certain people in the comity, you know, all the work
Speaker 1: like even even um. You know, she's helped out children,
Speaker 1: she's helped out family, she's helped out single mothers, She's
Speaker 1: done so many things. You know, you looked up to
Speaker 1: her for so long, you admired her for so long,
Speaker 1: you supported her for so long, And for this one moment,
Speaker 1: whether it is good or bad, whatever that she did,
Speaker 1: we're gonna completely cancel her and not even give her
Speaker 1: an opportunity like she could have been going through something.
Speaker 1: I think that people sometimes even forget that we're human beings,
Speaker 1: and even celebrities are the people that you look up
Speaker 1: to or the influences or whoever. Yes, you need to
Speaker 1: be careful. Once you have a platform, once you have
Speaker 1: been blessed with the platform where people listen and pay attention,
Speaker 1: you do have to be careful. However, I'm being come okay, Like, damn,
Speaker 1: we could just go and cancel people like that? What
Speaker 1: about all the hard work that they've put through? Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think it's fair. I think
Speaker 1: that people have the rights to make mistakes. You don't
Speaker 1: know what this person may be going through. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: see them all happy and fun on TV all the time,
Speaker 1: but you could have been having a period, you could
Speaker 1: have lost a family member, you could have had a breakup,
Speaker 1: you could have diarrhea. You're gonna be going through anything,
Speaker 1: and people automatically is like, who cares? You know, we're
Speaker 1: gonna cancel you. It's over and it's ay, damn, give
Speaker 1: them a break. Let's figure this out. Is there any
Speaker 1: chance you can come back from that? Did you apologize that?
Speaker 1: Are you going to therapy? Um? Did you seek help?
Speaker 1: Did did you just say it because you were upset
Speaker 1: that moment or did you say it out of ignorance
Speaker 1: because nobody taught you didn't know any better, Like, can
Speaker 1: we figure something out before we automatically completely cancel someone? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there should be room for mistakes, but also accountability
Speaker 1: for what you're saying too. Yeah. And I think you
Speaker 1: and I are both on the same wavelength here. Um,
Speaker 1: we're kind of like in the middle, right. We don't
Speaker 1: want to completely cancel somebody for having a bad day
Speaker 1: or for catching someone on the right at the wrong time. Right,
Speaker 1: But you know, we do have the extreme people like a, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, what's the name R Kelly. R Kelly definitely
Speaker 1: canceled gone forever. I don't I don't think, I don't
Speaker 1: you know for I mean, he's done some really nasty things,
Speaker 1: you know. Um, and I'm glad it all came to light.
Speaker 1: But if you're talking about cancel culture coming together people
Speaker 1: who just want to cancel others, R Kelly is definitely
Speaker 1: one that we can all agree on, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: it was time for him to go. Listen, there's still
Speaker 1: some people that support him and don't cancel him. And
Speaker 1: it's like, even if you've seen the videos, um, let's
Speaker 1: you see let me not even get into details. Well,
Speaker 1: even if you see the videos, even if you see proof,
Speaker 1: even if you see pictures, even if you see it
Speaker 1: and you know it, there's some people that like, no,
Speaker 1: he can't get cancel. It is not true. And then
Speaker 1: there's the rest of the world that's like, you need
Speaker 1: to get cancel. But cancel is not even the word
Speaker 1: for him, because cancel is too like you see, cancel
Speaker 1: is more for like comments or whatever what he did.
Speaker 1: Know you, you know, you need to be exactly where
Speaker 1: you're at. With all due respect, I don't support that
Speaker 1: in any shape way of form. Nothing that had a
Speaker 1: child or nothing that harms a woman I will ever
Speaker 1: agree with. So no battle, Yeah, I don't think. I
Speaker 1: don't think he could ever come back from it. You know,
Speaker 1: if people were to get uncanceled him, and not only that,
Speaker 1: but let's just say, let's put a weird example. Let's
Speaker 1: just say that tomorrow they were to say it was
Speaker 1: all a lie. We found proof they were trying to
Speaker 1: damage his image and just still his money and it's
Speaker 1: not true. Right. Unfortunately, in the in the times that
Speaker 1: we live because of cancel culture, even if proven not guilty,
Speaker 1: just the stigma, just the possibility, people will still continue
Speaker 1: to cancel, which is the crazy part because it's like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that have made mistake and
Speaker 1: then they've been proven and not guilty. It wasn't their fault.
Speaker 1: It wasn't that even domestic abuse or whatever the case
Speaker 1: may be, or it could have been a lie, fraud,
Speaker 1: financial fraud, anything, And just because is the rumor was
Speaker 1: put out there, people will still cancel you and they
Speaker 1: won't uncancel you. And that's also messed up, you know.
Speaker 1: And I know we're winding out here on the show.
Speaker 1: But another extreme um cancel culture person that I remember,
Speaker 1: the earliest one that I could think of, was Matt Lauer.
Speaker 1: He was the host of the Today Show, uh you
Speaker 1: know on on NBC. You know, they found out that
Speaker 1: he was, you know, like this completely different person behind
Speaker 1: the scenes. Um, you know a lot of sexual misconduct.
Speaker 1: I'm so sick of these men because it's just too
Speaker 1: many cases. Y'all don't know how to jerk it. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out do y'alln't even to
Speaker 1: send you all some lotion. Y'all don't know how to
Speaker 1: jerk it, like jerk it off until like y'all don't
Speaker 1: have to throw yourself at women, start touching women, start
Speaker 1: doing all these things. Like y'all can't go to the
Speaker 1: old school days where people used to like get little
Speaker 1: pornos and just jerk it off and then that's it.
Speaker 1: Look at a picture, jerk it off. Whatever. Your whole life,
Speaker 1: your family, your career, your everything will go down the
Speaker 1: drain just because you're dangling. It's like, come on, now,
Speaker 1: y'all need to get it together. But um, people that
Speaker 1: do stuff like that, you don't just need to get canceled.
Speaker 1: You need to feel the pressure. You need to feel
Speaker 1: the pressure in whatever way it comes. Um, yes, so
Speaker 1: they get karma. I believe in karma, but sometimes karmenies assistance.
Speaker 1: So now, but with that being said, I want to know, um,
Speaker 1: who do you believe should be canceled? Who shouldn't have
Speaker 1: been canceled? And I also want to know have you
Speaker 1: ever been canceled for something that you said? Let me
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Speaker 1: want to know because I know that there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people out there that have been canceled and they
Speaker 1: felt like, damn, I didn't deserve to get canceled, or
Speaker 1: be like, well, you know what, I I deserved to
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