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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me,

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Speaker 1: Tommy de Dario. If you are not watching nine one

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Speaker 1: one on ABC, you are seriously missing out. The show

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Speaker 1: is so phenomenal that it has been renewed for an

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Speaker 1: eighth season. And my guest today, well, he is phenomenal

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Speaker 1: as well. In fact, he is on my show because

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Speaker 1: of you. I saw all of the tweets, the dms,

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Speaker 1: the emails, all of it. So like a genie in

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Speaker 1: a bottle, your wish has been granted. The talented actor

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Speaker 1: Ryan Guzman stars in the Smash Shit Firefighter drama series

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Speaker 1: nine one one, and audiences fell in love with his

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Speaker 1: character Eddie the moment he debuted in episode one of

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Speaker 1: season two. Man he has become a staple on the

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Speaker 1: show and fans have been rooting for Eddie throughout the years,

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Speaker 1: and Ryan plays each moment of Eddie's journey with such

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Speaker 1: care and vulnerability and truth. We have a lot to

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Speaker 1: cover today and I have a feeling you were going

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Speaker 1: to really enjoy this fun but also personal and deep conversation.

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Speaker 1: We do dive into some very serious mental health conversations.

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Speaker 1: So after the interview, I will be providing resources for

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Speaker 1: anyone struggling with their own mental health. This is one

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Speaker 1: of the most powerful interviews.

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Speaker 2: I have ever done.

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Speaker 1: And I really thank Ryan for opening up in the

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Speaker 1: ways that he did today because I know that he

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Speaker 1: is going to help so many people out there feel

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Speaker 1: less alone. So let's see if we can get Ryan

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Speaker 1: to say something that he has never said before. Ryan,

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Speaker 1: my friend, how you doing today?

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Speaker 2: I'm good, Brodd? How are you? I'm good?

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Speaker 1: I know you have been working your butt off. You

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Speaker 1: were just saying you were filming all night. Are you

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Speaker 1: exhausted or you're on like adrenaline right now?

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Speaker 2: A little mixture of both, you know. I got a

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Speaker 2: little coffee pumped through my system. But yeah, we've been

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Speaker 2: I think I worked six out of seven days this

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Speaker 2: last week. We've been doing around fourteen to fifteen hour days.

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Speaker 2: And I just got off last night around in the morning,

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Speaker 2: so got home around two thirty. But we're here, we're here.

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Speaker 1: Well, you were putting in the work. Congratulations to you

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Speaker 1: on all of the success with the show. It's of

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Speaker 1: course now on ABC. People are loving it. The numbers

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Speaker 1: are going insane, and you've always been a fan favorite

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Speaker 1: from day one. You know, when you have that first

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Speaker 1: scene of you putting that shirt on in slow motion

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Speaker 1: and your body was glistening, and what a man was playing.

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Speaker 1: People just fell in love with your character. But that's

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Speaker 1: not just why they love your character. I mean, over

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Speaker 1: Why do you think that is? I'd like to say that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I try to play as grounded as I can,

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Speaker 2: but I think the story itself, it's just the way

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Speaker 2: tim Inar writes the character, and I think he's always

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Speaker 2: just indebted to how he writes and the connectivity between

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Speaker 2: Eddie and his son. I mean, it's just like it

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Speaker 2: I try to do it as much justice as I can.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're nearing the end of season seven, and past

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Speaker 1: seasons for you have been a bit heavier, a bit

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Speaker 1: more intense. You've really gone through quite a lot of

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Speaker 1: things that we'll touch on a bit later, which I

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Speaker 1: know is also part of the reason why so many

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I haven't really been able to

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Speaker 1: Like I said, the things you've gone through are intent

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, prior to nine to one one,

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Speaker 2: three and a half years ago. No, yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: How you know, in the scene where Eddie is just

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Speaker 2: like obviously I've never done in my house. But how

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Speaker 2: So again, living in gratitude for all the little things

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Speaker 1: That being said, is there a storyline that's particularly special

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Speaker 2: I kind of lean automatically towards the military PTSD just

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Speaker 1: I think you definitely did. I saw a lot of

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Speaker 1: this show. I'm so curious. You know, quite often in television,

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Speaker 2: I hated the fact that we killed off Shannon so quick.

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Speaker 2: I know she wasn't a very likable character for so

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Speaker 2: many different reasons. But I always loved working with Devin,

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Speaker 1: There's always so many things going on, I'm sure it's

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Speaker 2: at least they're so interested in our characters. Thank god,

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if either of us had a pinpoint,

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Speaker 1: How cool that you could pull from your real life

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Speaker 1: and you don't see a ton of that, which is

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Speaker 1: still kind of crazy, but you know, and of course

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Speaker 1: there were some negative comments, which blows my mind. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Right, Honestly, I've got this now filter for negative comments.

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Speaker 2: They just kind of seep right through, and I don't

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Speaker 2: like telling me these stories of people saying, man, I

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Speaker 2: could you imagine twenty thirty years of holding onto this

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Speaker 2: We're doing something much greater, much bigger than us.

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Speaker 1: He's not the only one inspiring. It's characters like you,

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Speaker 1: because you're showing you know what an ally means. And

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Speaker 1: You can't predict the future. Nobody can on this show.

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Speaker 2: What can we expect? Well, we can expect that Eddie

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Speaker 3: Will literally be a refresh button to Eddie and starting

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I hope that helped out a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: I've learned a lot through Eddie. I've learned patience. You know.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty awesome when you can take things away from

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Speaker 2: tap into, let's get into that gratitude and again and

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Speaker 2: just be super thankful that I was lucky enough to

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Speaker 2: land there.

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Speaker 1: That is so cool and that's why I no doubt

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Speaker 1: you'll continue having so much success in your career and

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Speaker 1: in your personal life because you keep bringing up gratitude

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Speaker 1: and it's very evident that something you lead your life with.

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Speaker 1: And in fact, I saw a recent Instagram post where

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Speaker 1: you give a beautiful tribute to Twitch and you credit

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Speaker 1: him with being able to form connection with people in

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Speaker 1: your life now and to different things and places, and

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Speaker 1: I thought that was such a beautiful way to show

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Speaker 1: people that you're working on yourself and you're a work

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Speaker 1: in progress, and that he helped you kind of open

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Speaker 1: your eyes. So that was a really cool moment for

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Speaker 1: you to also reveal thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I believe so much of the world right now

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Speaker 2: is showcasing a polished version of themselves, And to be honest,

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Speaker 2: I did it myself for so long that I've become

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Speaker 2: tired of it, and I would much rather get to

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Speaker 2: the raw, the raw, the unfiltered, the you know, the

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Speaker 2: mess ups, the you know. I've stuck my foot in

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Speaker 2: my mouth too many times. I've done, you know, stupid

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Speaker 2: things in my life, and I never want to present

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Speaker 2: myself as a person that does everything great because there's

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Speaker 2: so many things I suck at. So I think there's

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Speaker 2: an opportunity within that rawness to invite others to become

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Speaker 2: raw themselves and for us to see that, you know,

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Speaker 2: we're not competing with each other. We're competing with ourself

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Speaker 2: and our own image of ourself. And friends like you know,

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Speaker 2: a brother like like twitch, you know, and not understanding

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Speaker 2: what he was going through and that lack of connectivity

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Speaker 2: that I always you know, felt but never acted on,

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Speaker 2: which again I felt imposter syndrome for so long of

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Speaker 2: calling him my brother. It really struck a chord in me.

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Speaker 2: And now I can't go backwards. Now I'm propelled forward

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Speaker 2: to be like, is this conversation authentic between us? Or

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Speaker 2: are we just kind of saying what we have to

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Speaker 2: say just so we can pass on to the next

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Speaker 2: person and create whatever that is. And I'm not here

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Speaker 2: for that. I would much rather have that depth, and

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Speaker 2: I'd much rather have that.

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Speaker 1: Rawness beautifully said and a perfect segue. And so what

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Speaker 1: I want to finish this conversation with, which is based

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Speaker 1: off the title of the show. I've never said this before.

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Speaker 1: So I'm wondering, is there anything that comes to mind

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Speaker 1: that you want to share today that you've never shared before?

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Speaker 2: Uh huh, Yeah, you know what, I've been thinking about

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Speaker 2: this for so long, and there's so many things, you know,

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Speaker 2: that come to mind, one specifically, and it's been hesitant

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Speaker 2: to actually say any of this for so long because

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Speaker 2: you know, it's been years upon years, about six and

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Speaker 2: a half seven years ago, and I've really never said

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Speaker 2: this out loud, especially onto a public platform. I had

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Speaker 2: my own mental health crisis, and I tried at one

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Speaker 2: point in time to take my own life.

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Speaker 3: And.

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Speaker 2: Luckily it didn't work. Luckily I got a second chance,

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Speaker 2: by the grace of God, and from that moment forward,

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Speaker 2: I've taken each step as an opportunity to erase what

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Speaker 2: got me there and build on what allowed me to

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Speaker 2: live forward. So I would say that that moment itself,

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Speaker 2: in addition to what happened to my brother twitch are

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Speaker 2: probably the two biggest fundamental moments of my entire life

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Speaker 2: and have allowed me to have a deeper sense of

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Speaker 2: mercy and empathy towards every individual. So I would implore

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Speaker 2: that all men renounce this fact of you know, you're

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Speaker 2: a man, you have to hold all this sin, but

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Speaker 2: lean on your brother, really lean on your brother. And

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Speaker 2: if your brothers aren't being there and the way they

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Speaker 2: need to be, find some new ones. That's another thing.

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Speaker 2: If you don't have the people that are conducive to

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Speaker 2: a healthy livestyle, you're keeping onto them because of loyalty,

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Speaker 2: let them go. There's plenty of other people. There's people

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Speaker 2: that have been through your situation before that are willing

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Speaker 2: and more than willing, you know, to help. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was a big one man.

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Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for sharing something so personal

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Speaker 1: and close to your heart with me today. I feel

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Speaker 1: honored that you did open up and share that, and

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Speaker 1: I'm truly god this could be another half hour conversation,

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Speaker 1: so I'll keep it short, but I'm truly grateful that

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Speaker 1: you are spreading that message today for anybody listening, because

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Speaker 1: you know, mental health is a crisis, and I think

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Speaker 1: people sometimes look at you, they look at me, they

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Speaker 1: think everything's perfect. We are, you know, in this public

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Speaker 1: space and what can be wrong, And when you humanize

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Speaker 1: real shit like that, it makes people feel less alone.

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Speaker 1: And you got through it, you realize that wasn't the

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Speaker 1: right way to go about it, and your life forever

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Speaker 1: changed for the better. And I'm truly grateful that you

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Speaker 1: put that message out today because you have no idea

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Speaker 1: how many people you're going to be helping with that,

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Speaker 1: and I truly know that that's something that's not easy

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Speaker 1: to get off your chest. And for that, I thank you,

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Speaker 1: and I know so many people will be thanking you,

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Speaker 1: and I hope you feel kind of like a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a weightlifted that you share that hopefully.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of hard to understand what I'm feeling

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Speaker 2: at the moment, but I hope in what you've said

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Speaker 2: is true, and I hope that again I would love

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Speaker 2: to do more for mental health, especially for men. I

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Speaker 2: mean just in general, to be honest. But yes, I

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Speaker 2: hope that there is a new wave out there that's

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Speaker 2: kind of taking over that we can actually, you know,

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Speaker 2: have some cohesiveness and connection and true understanding what connection is.

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Speaker 2: Let's revisit that, so this issue isn't a common issue anymore.

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Speaker 2: If we can take that down, then let's do it.

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Speaker 1: I'm here for beautifully said, and thank you again for

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Speaker 1: sharing that. I could talk to you for hours, especially

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Speaker 1: leaving with that. I think you're such a cool person,

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Speaker 1: and you know you watch people. I get to talk

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Speaker 1: to people all the time, but this, to me was

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Speaker 1: a real conversation, and that's what I value. That's why

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Speaker 1: I have a show called I've never said this before,

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Speaker 1: and I want to talk about the projects that the

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Speaker 1: fans love, but also leave room to talk about things

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Speaker 1: that matter. I don't think there's enough of that, So

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Speaker 1: I truly thank you for hanging out, for coming on,

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Speaker 1: for talking about the fun of nine to one one,

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Speaker 1: which we all love and it's killing it in every way,

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Speaker 1: but also sharing a little piece of view. I hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoyed the conversation as much as I have.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, my man. Yeah, I had a

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Speaker 2: great time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, and remind everyone where how when all the

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Speaker 1: things about your show?

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Speaker 2: Yes, please watch Thursdays at eight on ABC.

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Speaker 1: All right, and stay tuned for the karaoke scene that

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Speaker 1: you just promised you will be dropping.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe when I'm fired again.

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Speaker 1: All right, man, until we meet again, Take care, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, brother man.

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Speaker 1: If you or someone you know is struggling with the

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Speaker 1: suicidal thoughts, please contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at

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Speaker 1: one eight hundred two seven three eight two five five.

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Speaker 1: You can also text strength to the crisis text line

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Speaker 1: at seven four one dash seven four to one, or

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Speaker 1: go to Suicide Prevention Lifeline dot org. This information is

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Speaker 1: all in the description on my episode page. So I

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Speaker 1: hope you use the resources if you feel like you

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Speaker 1: need to. And man, just another note. By Ryan sharing

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Speaker 1: his truth, I know that he will help many people

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Speaker 1: feel less alone and hopefully feel the same kind of

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Speaker 1: safety he felt in asking for help.

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Speaker 2: If they are struggling.

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Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is hosted by Me Tommy

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Speaker 1: de Dario. This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Puglisi

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