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Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Two Pros and a

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Speaker 3: Cup of Coop here Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Socks, and.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I would like to say a tip

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Speaker 3: and Lorena who've been fantastic. A lot of moving parts

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Speaker 3: on today's show. You know, no it's not bye by back.

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Speaker 3: In fact, there's less movie. I'm back. By moving part,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, not moving fast enough to uh

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Speaker 3: to set an alarm, which is always what do you mean?

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Speaker 3: I've been sitting here for the last five hours. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: All right, So we were off and running here our

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Speaker 3: two of the program, and so this was this was interesting,

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Speaker 3: and we've made mention of this before that at some

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Speaker 3: point somebody's just got to stop the damn fight. And

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Speaker 3: that stopped the damn fight. Is for Joe Shane and

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Speaker 3: the New York Giants who just continue to be reminded

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Speaker 3: of the awful, awful decision it was to move on

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Speaker 3: like Saquon Barkley who wanted to be there, wanted to

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Speaker 3: stay there, wanted to be a giant, did everything he

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Speaker 3: they decided, Man, we're going to go in a different direction.

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Speaker 3: According to the NFLPA, they reported on Wednesday that Saquon

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Speaker 3: Barkley led all NFL players and sales of officially licensed

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Speaker 3: product from March of twenty twenty four to February of

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, the first running back to be ranked

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Speaker 3: number one since Zeke in twenty seventeen. And I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to think of a free agent deal working out better

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Speaker 3: for a player than Saquon Barkley, and I can't think

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Speaker 3: of a lot of them. Maybe Reggie White in Green Bay,

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady and Tampa worked out well. That worked out well,

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Speaker 3: but Saquon Barkley and what has happened to him since

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Speaker 3: leaving the Giants and going to the Eagles, which were

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Speaker 3: than the Giants would have been. But it's hard to

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Speaker 3: imagine one signing going as well for a player as

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Speaker 3: it has gone for your guys, Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here thinking to myself who who would that

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Speaker 1: Brad Johnson, No, I mean, what do you mean? Look

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Speaker 1: him up when he left Washington to go to Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: Didn't he win the Super Bowl the very next year?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't think anybody looks at that and

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Speaker 3: you know there was a lot of that defense was

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Speaker 3: really you know, that the problem. Yeah, but I think Brad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, steer clear that one.

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Speaker 2: But he left a different team and and and rejoined

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Speaker 3: Definitely did won won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: literally if we could think of somebody that's comparable. It

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Speaker 1: American story, right, Like, you go from being a guy

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Speaker 3: And go ahead, go, I was just gonna make I

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Speaker 1: He didn't win the Super Bowl the next year though, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Season, But did did Peyton Manning didn't win the Super

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Speaker 1: No, So we can't say that he hasn't won a

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Speaker 2: But did Drew Brees win a super Bowl the very

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying it like Saquon Barkley's on the

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Speaker 3: short list of greatest free agent signings in the history

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's okay, Okay, I could see that that's a

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Speaker 1: He could have gone to a franchise and an organization

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Speaker 1: that's why there's way more to it.

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Speaker 2: There's way more to it. And you got a chance

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Speaker 1: You got a chance to see how people talk about

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm doing? Mother, lover?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean asking me what I'm doing? Okay, Well,

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Speaker 2: Like what we just you know, we're going to go

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Speaker 3: You've talked about your time in New York and that

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I knew the ownership, guys that were in,

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Speaker 1: I don't you know the other people they weren't like

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Speaker 1: And to me, Tom Coughlin was a dope coach. People

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Speaker 1: But I don't see that in New York right now.

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Speaker 3: And that that's why Joe Shane the GM is the

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Speaker 3: to Saquon Barkley becoming an Eagle and he's already got

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Speaker 1: That what makes it worse is that it couldn't have

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Speaker 1: Like if it was someone, oh, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're surrounded and it's not as if he had anything

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Speaker 1: this person has done wrong. He has been an upstanding,

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Speaker 1: He was a strong representation and gave hope to Giants

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Speaker 2: what are they are they not? Are they not a pro?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Or no?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're pros. But there is no butt. They're a pro.

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Speaker 1: So if they do, you know how many people are

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Speaker 1: sitting at home wishing they could say, I'm a pro.

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Speaker 3: Oh I got you. I'm just.

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Speaker 1: So this whole, this whole idea like to make it

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Speaker 1: generic that a guy that is on on a team,

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Speaker 1: that that's in coverage or that's the receiver, is somehow

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Speaker 1: some way disqualified because they're not the number one.

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Speaker 2: Let's look at the amount.

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Speaker 1: Look at the amount of guys that have taken third string,

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Speaker 1: second string snaps coming out of college and that are

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Speaker 1: now in the Hall of Fame. Go look that one up.

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Speaker 1: When you get some time, you'll see guys that have

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Speaker 1: been cut. They were journeymen, they were you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: injury was the reason why they got an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: All kinds of different stories.

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Speaker 1: Connected to how guys make it to the pros, I mean,

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Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame, and which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: are some extraordinary stories because more often than not, they

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Speaker 1: come from obscurity. They weren't the chosen one at every

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Speaker 1: single level. But this idea, this notion that you can

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Speaker 1: disqualify what Shador Sanders is doing with those highlights that

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Speaker 1: continue to surface is because of the level of talent

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Speaker 1: that he's going up against. That's an on my that

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Speaker 1: comes up with a red X. That one isn't on

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Speaker 1: the board. You're not going to score points, you're not.

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Speaker 1: You got two more misses like that doesn't that doesn't

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Speaker 1: qualify you're there.

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Speaker 2: You're there. Yeah, if you're there, you're there.

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Speaker 3: It's like when Steeler fans there's been this notion that

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Speaker 3: Steeler fans aren't thrilled with the Aaron Rodgers signing, and

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Speaker 3: it's like, dude, you're not in a position to dictate

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Speaker 3: terms to anybody, Like you're not in a position to

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Speaker 3: complain or rank anything. At this point, you needed a quarterback,

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Speaker 3: Rogers is the best available. Now you just roll with that.

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Speaker 3: So to your point on the Browns quarterback situation, it's

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Speaker 3: not like Flacco signed a six year deal. It's not

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Speaker 3: like Kenny Pickett's on a five year deal, you know,

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Speaker 3: with a with a player option for a sixth. These

475
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Speaker 3: are one year deals. And you've got rookie quarterbacks there

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Speaker 3: and a weirdo who's not on the field, and he's

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Speaker 3: the main reason why they're in this position. So everybody

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Speaker 3: is a live dog to be the start of a

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Speaker 3: Cleveland The idea, how do you how do you.

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Speaker 1: Figure out who's going to take all of the reps

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Speaker 1: if you're not giving Flacco many reps? Like I heard

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Speaker 1: them also saying that SoundBite that, well, it's Flacco and

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Speaker 1: he's a vet. We know what he can do. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to take any any reps. He doesn't have

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Speaker 1: to do anything.

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Speaker 2: He is not.

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Speaker 1: The franchise quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. So how do

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Speaker 1: you sit there and say, oh, we're going why because

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Speaker 1: of how many years he has in the league. That

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Speaker 1: man just came in as a free agent back to

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Speaker 1: your team. By the way, you let him go. You

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Speaker 1: brought him back if he was that, if he was

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Speaker 1: so good, why did you let him go?

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Speaker 3: And also the other part, like I believe Joe Flacco

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Speaker 3: is going to be named the starter. That that's my belief.

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Speaker 3: I think Flacco will give the opportunity to start the season.

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Speaker 3: But if they decided we're gonna see what we got

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Speaker 3: in Shitto or Dylan Gabriel, I get it. Like, it's

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Speaker 3: not like this is a ballsy Oh boy, what a

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Speaker 3: gutsy call. No, they're looking around going we're kind of

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Speaker 3: in a difficult spot here. Kevin Stefanski is Basically his

502
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Speaker 3: job is depending on a front office and an owner

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Speaker 3: that has put him in difficult situations as a head coach.

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Speaker 3: As far as quarterbacks go, they just have like he's

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Speaker 3: not had a lot of luck as far as a

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Speaker 3: we're gonna we made a move and it's gonna work out.

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Speaker 3: Other than the Joe Flacco decision, Look, he won a

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Speaker 3: playoff game with Baker Mayfield. He wasn't there because of

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Speaker 3: COVID and whatnot, but he won a playoff game with

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Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield. Gone, they go out and they signed to

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Speaker 3: Sean Watson, can't depend on him. They bring in Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 3: go to the playoffs again, then they let Joe Flaka walk.

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Speaker 3: They've put Stefanski in a really difficult spot. So the

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Speaker 3: idea of that, it's this far fetched thought that the

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Speaker 3: Shadoor Sanders would be named the starter. It's not anything

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Speaker 3: is on the table in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's far fetched to just put him

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Speaker 1: out to start and position now. Just let him take

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Speaker 1: starting rep. I would rather him take starting reps now

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Speaker 1: than take starting reps and training camp.

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Speaker 2: Let that one seeink in.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather if you're going to give starting reps to

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Speaker 1: guys like your third round pick, like your draft picks.

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Speaker 2: Do it now, do it now? Do it now? So

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Speaker 2: how many reps are you going to be able to get?

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Speaker 2: How many?

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Speaker 1: Like when you're a starter in the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: they generally get all of the reps. The only way

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Speaker 1: you're able to get impactful reps as a backup is

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Speaker 1: really if you're running plays, and you're running plays off

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Speaker 1: of cards, so and you're running them against the starting defense.

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Speaker 1: That's how you get reps is by being the scout team,

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Speaker 1: the scout team quarterback. And now even though you're running,

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Speaker 1: you're running cards, and we know the play because we're

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Speaker 1: studying the opponent's offense, you're still able to get the

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Speaker 1: reads and the understanding. You're able to put it on

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Speaker 1: film what you're doing against a starting defense.

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Speaker 2: So you know what you do.

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Speaker 1: You know what you do because you're not preparing for

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Speaker 1: you're not preparing for any any games right now. You're

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Speaker 1: just implementing your installing and you're getting reps if you're

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Speaker 1: if you're running a traditional style off a practice practice sheet,

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Speaker 1: a practice schedule, you're going to have periods for your defense.

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Speaker 1: You're going to have periods for your offense. Why not

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Speaker 1: just choose to during the defensive periods? Why not make

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Speaker 1: those offensive periods just like the defense is. It's it's

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Speaker 1: defense centric, it's defense heavy. But so what still be

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Speaker 1: taking taking reps as these are reps for the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns offense, not for an opponent that you're going to see.

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Speaker 1: And then now you have the starter, the starter over here,

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Speaker 1: he's over here, you know, and and air quotes. He's

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Speaker 1: on the other field doing what he's doing with the

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Speaker 1: starting offense. And you have another set of quarterbacks. So

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Speaker 1: have a set of quarterbacks with the starting group, have

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Speaker 1: another set of quarterbacks with the scout group. But you're

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Speaker 1: running the same plays in both places.

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Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So now you can split those you can split those

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Speaker 1: reps between the two guys that are running those reps

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Speaker 1: with those two units, even though one is going is

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Speaker 1: servicing the starting defense and the other one is being

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Speaker 1: serviced by a scout team defense.

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Speaker 2: It's OTA's it's.

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Speaker 1: Mini camps, even in training camp until we get to

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Speaker 1: a point where we're starting to do things that are

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Speaker 1: preparing for teams. I feel like having four quarterbacks and

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Speaker 1: four quarterbacks getting an opportunity to be what they're going

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Speaker 1: to be. To structure a practice this way would be impactful.

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Speaker 1: It would be very impactful. Unless they're practicing and everyone

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Speaker 1: is together, if everyone all every single one, first string,

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Speaker 1: second string there, I don't. I don't even know that

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Speaker 1: there is really a fourth string that exists.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a fourth string. I think you

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Speaker 1: go through third string and then that's pretty much it.

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Speaker 1: But I could be wrong. I don't recall ever seeing

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Speaker 1: a fourth or fifth string. But if all of them

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Speaker 1: are together and they're doing all of their all of

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Speaker 1: their they're parts of the practice schedule together, which I've

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Speaker 1: never seen that either, then that that that's problematic and

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Speaker 1: you should have a better plan approach to your practices.

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Speaker 1: You should be able to get your player's reps even

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Speaker 1: if you have four quarterbacks on your on your roster.

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Speaker 2: But that's just me.

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Speaker 3: Thinking out loud, you know, you know it's hilarious like that,

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Speaker 3: like just in thinking about this out loud, that's crazy

587
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: talk that Shador should be named the starter. Now you

588
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: know what crazy talk is giving DeShawn Watson two hundred

589
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Speaker 3: and thirty million dollars guarantee.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the crazy talk. And he's not even

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Speaker 1: in the conversation for the job.

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Speaker 3: Where's DeShawn He's at his bachelor party. Sweet, you got a.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback, You got a quarterback dilemma, and the main one,

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Speaker 1: the most highest paid one, and.

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Speaker 2: Even in the conversation about it. That's you've already started.

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Speaker 3: That's preposterous, Okay, all right, unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Ah Man.

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Speaker 2: Who Brian.

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Speaker 3: Was he Capital's announcer?

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Speaker 2: I believe that's who he is the announcer for You have.

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Speaker 3: A Mike Language. Ah, he's Shooty Scars scratch my back

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Speaker 3: with a hacksaw, the great Pens announcer back in the day. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: the good old days passed away not too long ago.

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Speaker 3: But h it was fun, fun to listen to. This

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Speaker 3: show's fun to listen to. By the way, you're gonna

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Speaker 3: enjoy it for another hour here on FSR.

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Speaker 2: We promise interesting