1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans. This one's 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles and only 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: the Truth lives here. Packed twelve Apostless. 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Amsden, and this is the 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 2: Pac twelve Apostles, the final season, not of this podcast, 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: but of the name of this podcast, because I guess 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 2: we gotta change it, or should we do like the 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: Washington Commanders or something like that, and just be like, listen, 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: we're just we're just keeping this name no matter what 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 2: the hell happens. 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: I don't. You're It's like you came into the room 12 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 3: and my husband just died and I have his last name, 13 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: and you're like, you're gonna change it now. It's not 14 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: the time. 15 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: All right, Well, we will discuss that later, but you 16 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: guys can send us our future name suggestions to I'm Matt, 17 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: I Amma d at Unafraid show dot com or tweet 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: us at Pack twelve Apostles or yeah, you can leave 19 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: it in a review as well, and make sure that 20 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: you guys leave five star review reviews wherever you listen 21 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: to podcasts, and of course engage with us. We will 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: hit you back you know what it is and most 23 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: importantly share the feed. But Ralph, we got a new review. 24 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 3: We did, and for long time listeners of this podcast, 25 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 3: I just want to point out that I did like 26 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 3: the naturally sexist thing that George would have me do 27 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: and assume that, yeah, I know that's right. Assume that I, 28 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: as a woman in this scenario, would have changed my 29 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: last name instead of go with a what hyphenated last name? 30 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: Which yes, yes, yes, because you're the hyphenated king. 31 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: I don't have a hyphenated last name. 32 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you love players hyphenavid names. 33 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: That's a coincidence. 34 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: That's a hell of a coincidence. That's a lot of 35 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: times in a row, buddy, it's a few. 36 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 3: It's a few. Shout out to former Washington Scout Team 37 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: quarterback Daniel Bridge. Gand so let me read our review. 38 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 3: It's an updated review, which I know that you'll appreciate. 39 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 3: George went from four stars to five. Yeah, buddy, and 40 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: it's from our guy Lang Cree, the University of Arizona fan. 41 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: He said, time for another of review. That is the title, 42 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: Time another of review. Okay, hey, gents, I appreciate the 43 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 3: acknowledgment of the last review. Despite my chippy and triggering comments, 44 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 3: I've enjoyed this podcast the last two years. Loved this 45 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: twenty Stuff podcast from the twenty seventh great discussions, and 46 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: I really enjoyed the Ap and Don conversation last week's podcast. 47 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: You guys are down to earth and for the most part, 48 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: really come at your analysis as true college football enthusiasts 49 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: overall and not Homer's. Don't get me wrong, I feel 50 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: the hate from ASU, Ralph and some Homerism, but my 51 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: posts and feelings match, so I have no footing to 52 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: stand on. With that said, forks were up for much 53 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: of the USC game, and I watched that. I watched 54 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: before I bailed. Some respect to give there. Keep up 55 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 3: the great work, and I'll be foolishly taking You have 56 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: a money line against the Huskies, banking on Noah getting 57 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: rid of the ball. 58 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god, not the money line. Take the points. 59 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: You you you bluffed that you're going money line Arizona 60 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 3: last week and then pulled out of it. 61 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: Oh so that was one hundred percent bluff that had 62 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: no like real thought of actually doing that. 63 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: Oh can I tell you when I stopped hating University 64 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: of Arizona? Okay, when it was when my oldest son 65 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: was born, Like the day he was born. I would 66 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: love to say that it was like, oh, I really 67 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: realized by. 68 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: A Tucson doctor. 69 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: I actually think his doctor was it was a U 70 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: of A and so that was part of it. 71 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: A Tusonise doctor. 72 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: I would love to say that it was like I 73 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: looked in my son's eyes and saw there's no more 74 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: room for hate in this world, only love. But the 75 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: truth is like his doctor went to University of Arizona, 76 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: and like the moment he was born, it was kind 77 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 3: of kind of like you with with Damon. I'm like, well, 78 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: if you wants to offer my skin of scholarship, I'm 79 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: not gonna get in the way like you. Okay. And 80 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: at the time, at the time they were the only 81 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,679 Speaker 3: school in Arizona with the medical school. But now as 82 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 3: U and NA you were getting one. So maybe it's 83 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,119 Speaker 3: time to rev up to the hate speech a little 84 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: bit when it comes. I don't I'm I'm not big 85 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: on the I'm not big on the rivalry, and I 86 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 3: haven't been for like the last fifteen years. I want 87 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 3: everybody to lose just University of Arizona. 88 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: Nice. Oh all right, So let's start with the A 89 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 2: people again this week, and we are going to keep 90 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: banging this drum until there is change. And this week 91 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: it was I cannot for the life of me, and 92 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: I understand why because there have been responses. I've talked 93 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: offline to some writers or some two voters specifically, and 94 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: they stated why some people, why some of the voters 95 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: are starting to change because of a little bit of 96 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: the pressure, and why some are resisting change. So number 97 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: one is part of the reason why they're resisting change 98 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: is that these voters are essentially not not beat writers. 99 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: But how would you describe it, Ralph? 100 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that for the most I think for the most part, 101 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: they're they're either like sports editors or beat writers. 102 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, for a specific school slash conference like for instance, 103 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: John John Wilner is with the PAC twelve, so his 104 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: focus for watching games is largely going to be PAC twelve. 105 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: So if he has the so if he is faced 106 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 2: with watching in the same time slot, watching you know, 107 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: uh error Stanford versus Arizona State, he has to error 108 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 2: towards that as opposed to watching Georgia play. He would 109 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: of course they're watching you know, stat lines, and they're 110 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: watching you know the ticker at the bottom and all 111 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 2: of that, but there is and I'm not talking specifically 112 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: about John, but I'm just saying just in general that 113 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: they're largely watching and dissecting even deeper the teams and 114 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: the conferences that they cover specifically, and so there's not 115 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: a lot of room, especially with the deadlines high and 116 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: all of that, to necessarily watch all of the rest 117 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: of the team's play. So it's easier for them to 118 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: lean into the all right, look, we'll we'll, we'll just 119 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,119 Speaker 2: move up, move down based upon who won and who lost. Well, 120 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: this week it was USC who took another hit and 121 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: USC went down one spot flopping sports spots with Oregon, 122 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: while Georgia struggled. I mean, they needed a brock Bauers 123 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,559 Speaker 2: herculean effort in the end of the game to save 124 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: them from ending up in overtime against a wash against 125 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: a Auburn team that scored fourteen points against Tech Cow 126 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: Well that game was fourteen ten if I remember correctly. 127 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: And Auburn's not particularly good this year. Their quarterback situation 128 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: is untenable. They threw for eighty two yards in the 129 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: game and had Georgia in an absolute headlock so, but 130 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: Georgia won't, and people are saying, well, they they they're 131 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: the two time champs. You got to knock them off. 132 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: How are you supposed to knock them off? With this 133 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: schedule that they're playing number one and number two? This 134 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: is an entirely different season. You're supposed to be judging 135 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: on the information that you're given. But this this week, Ralph, 136 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: was the first time that I've seen this many teams 137 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: get votes. Thirty five of the sixty two went to Georgia. 138 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: Of first place votes, twelve went to Michigan, ten went 139 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: to Texas, one went to Ohio State, and four went 140 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: to Florida State. Ralph, have you seen that many teams 141 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 2: get first place votes before? 142 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: No? No, And I do think that that is very cool. 143 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 3: I like that. But you know, we so we're talking about, 144 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: you know, the sixty two AP voters, and you know 145 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 3: the which ones are you know actually watching the PAC 146 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: twelve And you bring up Wilner and he has everybody 147 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: in the PAC twelve pretty much lower than everyone else 148 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: in the country. And he's the closest one too. He's 149 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: a friend of the show. We've had him on the 150 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: show many times. But that is just interesting to me 151 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 3: because I'm going through the ballots of everybody in the 152 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: PAC twelve footprint, he's the least kind. We have Michael 153 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: lev out of Tucson, who actually has four PAC twelve 154 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: teams in the top ten for the second week in 155 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: a row, with Washington State at ten and Washington as 156 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 3: high as four. But most of the voters out here 157 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: just are refusing to believe that the high end teams 158 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 3: in the PAC twelve could compete on a national stage 159 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: with the high end teams from other conferences. So you're 160 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: hearing that the PAC twelve is the deepest conference, but 161 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 3: they don't believe that the deep end of the pool 162 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: is as deep as SEC Big ten and things like that. 163 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: Oh Lord, have mercy, bro because and we're going to 164 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: see what happens this weekend. Because right now in the 165 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: Ape Pole, Washington is seven, Oregon eight, USC nine, then 166 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: Notre Dame ten, Alabama eleven, Then you got Oklahoma and 167 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: Washington State at thirteen. Right, So Alabama plays Texas A 168 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: and M this weekend. Texas and M is four and one, 169 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 2: but they are not ranked. If Alabama wins this game, 170 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: no matter how ugly, if they win win win this game, 171 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: because remember their only loss is to Texa, and M's 172 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: only loss is to Miami. Miami is sitting at seventeen. 173 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: So if Alabama beats Texas, A and M, do you 174 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: think do you believe that there is a chance that 175 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: they will jump over n C State. I'm sorry, Notre Dame, 176 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: who I believe plays Louisville this weekend, who's number twenty five? 177 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: Or Washington or Oregon who are off or USC who 178 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 2: plays Arizona. 179 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: The majority of Alabama's votes are in the ten to 180 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 3: eleven range. Over half the voters have them in the 181 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 3: ten or or eleven range. Only four voters have them 182 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: in the top ten. And so, you know, do I 183 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: think that a majority of those voters would jump them 184 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: over a Washington or a USC or you know, yeah, 185 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 3: probably because you've seen USC drop two weeks in a 186 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 3: row after wins, So yeah, it would make sense to me. 187 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: There's only. 188 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: So that's the question. Why is USC dropping? And after 189 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: they were dominating, the game came back to be a 190 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 2: close game and they won. Whereas like when Texas played 191 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 2: Wyoming going into the fourth quarter, it was a ten 192 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: to ten game. 193 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 3: Right against Wyoming's backup quarterback by the way. 194 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there is, it's natural bias. But do you 195 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: think that that bias will change when Oregon, Washington, USC, 196 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: and UCLA are then in the Big ten because those 197 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: schedules broke. That's actually one thing, and the same thing 198 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 2: with those teams in the Big twelve. I'm actually looking 199 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: at this, Ralph, and I'm looking at There was an 200 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: article put out about Michigan's potential schedule for next season, 201 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: and I was shocked because the rumor is that they 202 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 2: want to get front load these schedules for the first 203 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: few years to really ramp up their television partners, increase 204 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: the money potentially early and you could have Michigan playing Washington, Oregon, USC, 205 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: and UCLA or at least three of those four plus 206 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: Ohio State as well, which would I mean, that would 207 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: be an unbelievable schedule. 208 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, I do think. I do think 209 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: it matters where somebody is positioned. But I can also 210 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: throw out there that it's not just the PAC twelve 211 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: that I feel like is getting disrespected in this process, 212 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 3: but actually the ACC is kind of part of that 213 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: as well. You know, there are twenty four of the 214 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: sixty two voters that don't have Louisville as a top 215 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 3: twenty five team. Yeah, and so they come in at 216 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,239 Speaker 3: twenty five and they're five and oh right, they're undefeated. 217 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: The games haven't looked all that good, but you know 218 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: there are still Compare that to Kentucky who is five 219 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 3: and oh and only has two people that believe that 220 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: they're not worthy of being in the top twenty five. 221 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: And they want LSU to still be good, Bro, they 222 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: want LSU to still be good. They're three and two 223 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: at at twenty three. Bro, they got seven hundred yards 224 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: of offense put on them, yep. 225 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 3: And you have people that have voted them. You have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 226 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: eight writers that voted them in the top nineteen. Eight 227 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 3: that put them in the top nineteen. That one that 228 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: believe the LSU who got wrecked wrecked by Old miss. 229 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: I am wrecked by Florida State. Bro, they're two losses. 230 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: They got wrecked. That's not even dude, Dude, I would 231 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: put Clemson in front of them. Clemson didn't get wrecked 232 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: in their two losses. They lost to Duke and they 233 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: got uh and their second loss was to who. 234 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 3: Clemson also lost to Florida State. 235 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Neither one of those was a wrecking but 236 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: LSU got wrecked. Come on, people, come on. But I 237 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: do think that there's a piece of information, which is 238 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: Washington State this week is sitting at four and oh 239 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: at number thirteen in the country. Ralph who was a 240 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: thirteen in the country last year at this time TCU, TCU. 241 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, so there is hope for Washington State at 242 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: this point and point in time and cam Ward to 243 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: potentially end up at a Heisman ceremony because in two 244 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: weeks they get to they get to travel down to 245 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: Auton Stadium, play the Ducks, and then their their schedule. Honestly, Bro, 246 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: they got it light. They got the light end of 247 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: the Pac twelve schedule because they got UCLA this week, 248 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: which is obviously not a light game, but I'm saying, like, 249 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: it's not the you know, the heavy end of the 250 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: Pac twelve. Then they get Arizona, they got Oregon, then 251 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: they get ASU, Stanford, cal Colorado. Bro, they there's a 252 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: real chance that they could be heading into the Washington 253 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: game at either ten and one or eleven and zero. 254 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: There is a shot. I don't think that they're I 255 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: don't I don't think they're gonna beat Oregon. But is 256 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: there a chance they can beat Oregon? Absolutely? Oregon don't 257 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: show up with their with their A game, They show 258 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: up with like a B minus game, and they show 259 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: up with their eight. They can win. 260 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: And Oregon had to, like Oregon had to hustle last 261 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: year in the fourth quarter, overcome some pretty ridiculous odds 262 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 3: to come back and beat Yes, Washington State, they really did. 263 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 3: And Washington State seems this year better on both sides 264 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: of the ball than they were last year. So does Oregon. 265 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 3: But it just it makes that match up, the potential 266 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 3: for that matchup that much more exciting. 267 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely. 268 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 269 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 270 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeart Radio app. Search f 271 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: s R to listen live. 272 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 2: Now to go back. Oh but before we get back 273 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 2: to the what happened last week? Uh, we got to 274 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: talk about what happened prior to the game, even starting 275 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: on college football game day. Plus, nobody knows to study. 276 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: Second consecutive chance we got something this flag whenever one 277 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: and eleven we were, you were, that's wild. So when 278 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: that sucked. 279 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: The week on the biggest college footbosh wow success Ryan Leaf. 280 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 1: And flying and flying old beef beside it too. 281 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: I want to waste for. 282 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: Jamie flag flying up there. Every severe at Washington State 283 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 3: gets in the Washington State's going, not big beans up there. 284 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 2: Shut up in Washington State. I'm sick of you waste 285 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: time on this show. 286 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: Just why do you get to the pot were still winning? 287 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: You back over? 288 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: I doubt it, you know, on the subject. 289 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: So I find it out of line. Pat McAfee, Bro, 290 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: you just got here like two years ago. Like you 291 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 2: you you've not been in these in these college football 292 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 2: game day trenches, right, so so all of this we 293 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: talk like who the who's we? You speak French right now? 294 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 3: We we. 295 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: That's so I like Pat, I just think that he 296 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 2: him being the ambassador for the UH going after Washington 297 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: State when he ain't the people who were doing that, 298 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 2: and he's like, oh, we're showing this flag every week. Bro, 299 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 2: game day did not assist in any single getting their 300 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: flag there. All they did is showed the crowd and 301 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: the flag was there. And then after a few years 302 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 2: it became like, damn, that flag is always here. Huh, 303 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 2: let's acknowledge it. It wasn't like game Day was giving 304 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: Washington State a platform. They weren't. 305 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 3: It's just part of it. Like I've been on three 306 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: college game day sets, and every single time, the first 307 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 3: thing I look for is the Washington State flag. 308 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, just because it's. 309 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: Part of it. It's really cool. 310 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: They got there at Washington State fans dime. 311 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, they could move their ass over to big noon kickoff. 312 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: They do this as an alumni base just because they 313 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: love their school and like to be super clear to 314 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 3: Pat McAfee, college football is not professional wrestling. It's not 315 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: this whole like playing the heel thing because they'll they'll 316 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 3: love to hate me. Nah, man, they just hate you. 317 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 3: Now they hate you. You just alienated one of the 318 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 3: best college football towns in America for what. Yeah, for 319 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 3: what and this And it's not like the NFL. It's 320 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 3: not like when Emmanuel Acho went out and was like 321 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: Herbert sucks social media quarterback and then justin Herbert threw 322 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 3: for fifty thousand yards in one quarter with auto in 323 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 3: the stands and then he had to do like a 324 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 3: Mia Kolpa. That's fun for the fans because but like 325 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 3: you're talking about a town, you're talking about like a 326 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: whole economy that is dependent upon revenue being brought in 327 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 3: by Washington State earning their place as a major college 328 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 3: football town. That's that nationwide alert. 329 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: What is this nationwide alert for? 330 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: It's the National Weather Service set it up with Deon 331 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 3: Sanders to let people know we come in. 332 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 2: No, no, over real, what is it? What is it about? 333 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: Because that's oh god. 334 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 3: That everyone in the country got one of those at 335 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 3: the exact same time, and now we are listening to 336 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 3: this in their card. You're gonna get a second one. 337 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: So how about a I mean, do we need a 338 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: nationwide alert? Is there something something brewing? 339 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 3: Brother? No? No, well, well maybe a week from now 340 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: Washington and Oregon top ten matchup. 341 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I honestly we hope it's a top 342 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: ten match up because what happens of Oklahoma beacht Texas 343 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: this weekend? 344 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 3: Right, you're right, No, they could absolutely drop just for 345 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 3: being inactive, which is very, very. 346 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: Rich, which never happens to these never mind, Right, we're 347 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 2: done with the eight people. 348 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I just throw out there to Pat McAfee 349 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 3: like it's a calculated risk on his part every time 350 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: he does something like this, and he you know, he 351 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: does something every single day that gets the Internet talking. 352 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 3: Yesterday it was Aaron Rodgers calling Travis Kelsey mister Pfizer, 353 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 3: which was audible. That was from me. That's funny, and 354 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 3: so like, you know, he's gonna create conversation. But at 355 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 3: some point, and you and I have had this conversation 356 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: and we've been on opposite side of this conversation, at 357 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 3: some point you have to realize your overall impact and 358 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: the way you carry with you and the things that 359 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: you do, and like using that to like to try 360 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: to play bully to Washington State for standing up for themselves. 361 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: Like and I and I talked about it last week. 362 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: I hope that Washington State misinterprets everything. Lee Corso says, 363 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 3: I hope they are. 364 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: Thorn in every single week. Bro, I'm coming out with 365 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: like videos like Oregon did after the Colorado game. I'm 366 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: coming out with that every single week, and you go, 367 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: you go, you gonna feel me, you go and acknowledge me, 368 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: like I'm gonna beat the little thorn in your side. Bro. 369 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I I I hope that Washington State fans are 370 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 3: the most I support them in this the most ridiculous 371 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 3: people on earth through the end of this season because 372 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 3: they they should they should they like they got crushed 373 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: by this process of breaking up the conference for the 374 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: benefit of the different television networks and they were the 375 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 3: victim of it. This isn't playing the victim, it's being 376 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 3: the victim. They should be as loud and nasty and 377 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 3: weird as possible. And if it makes Pat McAfee uncomfortable, 378 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 3: good do it again and again and again. Don't stop, like, 379 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 3: make him come off as the bad guy, because you 380 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 3: won't let up be as relentlessly weird as Pat McAfee 381 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 3: was in that clip. I'm all for it. 382 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: To lighten the mood before we get to the games. 383 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: There is a play this weekend that I know that 384 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: Arizona State fans and Ralph themselves will be happy about. 385 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 2: So if you are listening to this on audio, you 386 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: guys can go on the PAC twelve apostles uh Twitter 387 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: and watch it. And it is at the twenty three 388 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: minute and forty three second mark. 389 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 3: Breaking Oh my god, you didn't see Yell. 390 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 2: No, you didn't see Jayden Daniels get absolutely rocked. Dude, 391 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 2: that's you. Twice this year. 392 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 3: You sent me a note about it, but I thought 393 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 3: you were talking about the Mississippi State game. 394 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: No, that's a whole new game, brother, man. 395 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: I tell you what. They fixed him. They fixed him 396 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 3: in that offense. It's gonna be a wasted year because 397 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: they don't play defense. But the fact that he's like 398 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 3: throwing it up to receivers instead of just playing it 399 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: safe all the time you took it, you maybe need 400 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 3: to play it a little bit safer in the in 401 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 3: the running and. 402 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 2: Running from dang right, this is his second time this 403 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 2: year getting absolutely. 404 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 3: Like run through. He got run through. 405 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: That the ball was on an eject though, seat said, 406 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 2: we're not seeing that ball. Oh man, All right, let's 407 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 2: get on to the business that was last week and 408 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 2: it started on Friday. And we like to pat ourselves 409 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: on the back when we get it right. And Ralph, 410 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: what did we say about this game Oregon State versus 411 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: Utah if cam Risey did not play? 412 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 3: I said, the most aggressive take of the under in 413 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 3: the history of this show. Yes, and when we smashed 414 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 3: that under and then you said Oregon State scores twenty 415 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: one games over yep. And the final score Oregon State 416 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 3: twenty one Utah seven. 417 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: Yep, dude, Utah, Like I damn near dropped them out 418 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: of my top twenty five this week. That was brutal 419 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: to watch, I mean, and it's not. And we've talked 420 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: about we cannot account for them being hurt like you 421 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: are what you've put on film. They are four and one. 422 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 2: But the question is is, like, I don't when I 423 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: look at this team. When I'm watching this team, I'm like, 424 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: this is like watching the Nathaniel Hackett Denver Broncos play. 425 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: Offense may be worse. It's brutal, and I know that 426 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: Cam Rising is hurt, but they have other issues besides 427 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: that on the offensive end, because their defense does a 428 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: good job, but there comes a point where your defense 429 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 2: can't just just pitch shutouts. And the reality is is 430 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 2: that Nate Johnson who was eight for twenty three or 431 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: one hundred and one yards and a touchdown and Bryson Barnes, 432 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: this ain't it. They were thirteen for thirty one combined 433 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: for one hundred and forty one yards, a touchdown and 434 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: a pick. I do not. I talked to a PAC 435 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: twelve coach on Saturday and he was like, Yo, there 436 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 2: is not a real live now, a graduate assistant, nothing 437 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 2: like somebody who's watching film on these teams. He said 438 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: that there is no chance that adding Cam Rising back 439 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 2: is going to just magically make them back into next year. 440 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: There are bigger issues going on with that offense, and 441 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 2: it is and like they're gonna go from one of 442 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: the worst in the country to like middle worst in 443 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: the country to like from like top one thirty to 444 00:27:55,160 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 2: like top sixty five seventy with Camp right there. 445 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 3: The their their floor is twenty twenty two Illinois and 446 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 3: their ceiling is any year, but this year San Diego State, 447 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 3: like where there where, it's just gonna be like an 448 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: it's gonna have to be an average offense that that 449 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 3: carries them through some of these games. But I mean 450 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 3: they also, uh, they also had kind of a devastating loss, 451 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 3: didn't they this last week on the defensive side of 452 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: the ball. And they're they're probably the second least healthy 453 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 3: team in the Pac twelve. But Logan Fano, they're they're 454 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: really talented defensive end. He is out for the season. 455 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: Yep. 456 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a tough one. 457 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: Yep. So listen, Utah is a tough minded team. Are 458 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:56,719 Speaker 2: they going to quote unquote be okay? Like yeah, but okay, 459 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: this year does not look like what they would have 460 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: predict it and Cam Rising clearly is I mean he 461 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: he didn't even dress out, didn't put on a full 462 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 2: workout prior to the game. They said, it's been practicing some. 463 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: I don't even know what his practicing some really looks like, 464 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: because that does not look accurate at this point and 465 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: point in time. If you get what I'm. 466 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 3: Saying, he was day to day one month ago. 467 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of. 468 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: He was day to day going into the season. So 469 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 3: either a lot of that, yes, and they lie to 470 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 3: take something definitely competitive advantage yep, Well what competitive advantage 471 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 3: is there in just like nobody believes you anymore. So 472 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 3: just drop it. If Cam Rising is not playing this year, 473 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 3: just shut him down. Don't make him go through the 474 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 3: like even the physical labor of putting on pads for noise. 475 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 3: Just shut it down. 476 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 2: Well. See, the thing I noticed is when he was 477 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: throwing the ball when they show him, he wasn't like 478 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: moving full speed at all, like or even fast. And 479 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 2: he also had a don Joy knee brace on, but 480 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 2: he also had another brace on as well, like so 481 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: he had multiple or like either he had multiple braces 482 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: on or he had a special designed brace, so this 483 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: appears to be more than just an ACL, so that 484 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: he may have hurt something else in there, so we 485 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: shall see. 486 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 3: Well, isn't this his third ACL? 487 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 2: It's something, Yeah, it's more, it's more than his first. 488 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 3: So if you and if you look, if you're the 489 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: team doctor or Cam Rising's personal doctor, and you're looking 490 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: out there and you're like, Okay, could we chance it 491 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 3: this week? And then you just watched Bryson Barnes get 492 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 3: put in the hospital after it hit to the chest 493 00:30:58,840 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 3: and you're like, wow. 494 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: Man, maybe this isn't the year, right, Like, dude, Bryce, 495 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 2: They said they were very concerned for Bryson Barnes, like 496 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: the the messaging that came out was scary, Like I 497 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: was like, are we afraid for his life? 498 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 3: Right? And and but then at the same time you 499 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 3: get boy who cried Wolf Territory with Kyle Winningham, so 500 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 3: it's like, oh, did he get a cut in his nipple? 501 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 3: Like we don't know, we don't know what to believe 502 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: when you talk yep. 503 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: And now Utah is five games and they're averaging nineteen 504 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: point two points per game, and but their defense is 505 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 2: only giving up eleven point eight points per game. So 506 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: you know it. It is what it It is what 507 00:31:54,880 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 2: it is. Man. So oh, in total offense, they are 508 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: dead last in the PAC twelve, dead last under three 509 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: hundred yards a game. 510 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, and it doesn't matter how good your defense is. 511 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 3: You got a couple offenses in the Pac twelve, it 512 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: will score two three touchdowns by accident. Oregon say it's 513 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 3: one of them. 514 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they're going to like like it's it's They're 515 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: gonna keep pushing on the door and eventually it's going 516 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: to break. Eventually, the door is going to break. 517 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 518 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 519 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 520 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: listen live. 521 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: All right, next game up now before we go to 522 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 2: the next game, even though I just said next game. Oh, 523 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: Ralph just stumbled upon some news. 524 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 3: So Utah might be having a hard time moving to football, 525 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 3: but they're not gonna have a hard time helping each 526 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 3: other move because all Utah scholarship football players just received 527 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 3: a new truck. As part of an nil deal with 528 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 3: the Utah Crimson Collective. Every scholarship player on Utah's football 529 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 3: team is getting a twenty twenty four Ram fifteen hundred 530 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 3: Big Horn with Night Edition package. The lease and insurance 531 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 3: costs will be fully funded by the donors of the 532 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 3: Crimson Collective. 533 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 2: How about that, Bro, that's that money money, Bro, Bro, 534 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: that's eighty five may minimum. I would be a maximum 535 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: of eighty five cars getting leased out. Now they they 536 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 2: must right when players graduate, they gotta have to give 537 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 2: those back and like pass that down to like a 538 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 2: new kid, like to where it's like a two or 539 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 2: three year thing, because that's a lot of loaners. Buddy. 540 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, the lease is getting paid, The lease is getting 541 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 3: paid by the collective, and the insurance costs and because 542 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 3: it's a lead, I don't think it'll affect the kids 543 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 3: tax statuses. I don't believe so. But pretty cool, Pretty cool, 544 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 3: especially after last year's built bar covering the scholarships of 545 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 3: all the BYU kids that were walk ons for that year. 546 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 3: This is what I like this. 547 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 2: This might help in recruiting, bro, This might help in recruiting. Bro. 548 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 2: We don't need to get you no car. You good 549 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 2: when you come out here to Utah, mate, and you 550 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 2: good and snow you good? Everything else we got you, 551 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 2: fam Hey, amazing all right on to the next game 552 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 2: from last week USC Colorado USC forty eight, Colorado forty one. 553 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: This was a thirty four to fourteen game at halftime, 554 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 2: and then the Wills came off for for USC. Wills 555 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,439 Speaker 2: came off. Now this is another win for your boy 556 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: minus twenty. They were minus twenty one and a half. 557 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: I was sweating it a little bit at halftime, but 558 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,959 Speaker 2: then I knew USC wouldn't let me down. I knew 559 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 2: Colorado wouldn't let me down, and they didn't brot. This 560 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 2: USC defense is lee gee, buddy leaky, and Lincoln Riley 561 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 2: is like, hey, listen to the untrained eye, this is 562 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: not the same issues as last year. To the untrained 563 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 2: eye US coaches, we see it differently. What are you saying. 564 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 3: I'm actually mad that he's kind of right. Like USC's 565 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 3: defense stinks. It just is a different scent than the stink. 566 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 3: Like last year was armpits and this his feet, because 567 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 3: what was the big issue last year is mistackles right 568 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 3: and giving up over six and a half yards per play, 569 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 3: which is pretty wild. But I think here's the deal. 570 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 3: USC's opponent are like six and nineteen combined, six and nineteen. 571 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 3: They gave up twenty eight to an ASU team that 572 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 3: scored zero the week before. They gave up forty one 573 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 3: to a Colorado team that scored six the week before. 574 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 3: No difference in personnel really either time. Yeah, just absolutely 575 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 3: brutal defensive calls by Alex Grinch. They're aggressive, they're not 576 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 3: necessarily missing the tackles that they missed last year. But 577 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 3: they haven't really played anybody yet and they're still giving up. 578 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 3: They're still giving up a ton of points. I mean, 579 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 3: even Stanford, even Stanford, yes, had four explosive plays on 580 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 3: offense in the running game against them. They should be concerned. 581 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 3: I know that Lincoln Riley's out here defending his boy 582 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 3: or whatever, but Ilaholmo's got a top five defense right 583 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 3: now without him. 584 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 2: Hey, they are giving up, on average, the tenth most 585 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: yards in the conference at four hundred and four yards 586 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 2: a game. Only Stanford and Colorado are worse. And it's 587 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 2: very interesting because no one, because I saw a stat 588 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 2: a USC you know fan person put out. They were like, 589 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 2: we are first and second in the nation in saxon 590 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 2: tackle for loss and number six in the nation and 591 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 2: havoc great. I don't know what havoc is or how 592 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 2: you even quantify that. But somebody in the comments was like, yeah, 593 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 2: but then you're fifty something in total defense and scoring, so. 594 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 3: Right, and you've got to go against Colorado and Arizona 595 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 3: States offensive lines. Yeah, so two worst in the conference. Yeah, 596 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 3: worse than even Stanford as far as old lines go. 597 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't want. 598 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 2: So how does this go versus so? How does this 599 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:56,720 Speaker 2: go for the next few weeks against Notre Dame, Utah, Cal, Washington, Oregon, 600 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 2: and UCLA In terms of I think it's going to 601 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 2: be bad, yeah, in terms of the stress that your 602 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 2: defense is gonna be under, like Caleb Williams is not 603 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 2: going to be able to to try to make hero 604 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: plays and miss he like he did. If he has 605 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: a two pick game, they might get two touchdown. 606 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 3: Nope, they got a Mike D'Antoni the rest of the season, 607 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 3: whoever had the most points at the end of the 608 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 3: game had the best defense. That's how they have to 609 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 3: That was a sign that was in Mike d'antoni's offense 610 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 3: office when he was in Phoenix. Whoever has the most 611 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 3: points at the end of the game had the best defense, 612 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 3: which is categorically not true at all, Right, but it 613 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 3: sounds nice, correct, No, Lincoln Riley, Caleb Williams, they're gonna 614 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 3: have to carry this team. That that became super evident. 615 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 3: They really had Colorado knocked out. But that just goes 616 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 3: to show you the the discipline and resolve of this 617 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 3: Deon Sanders coach. Yes, the hard time. 618 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 2: Bro, and they have some dudes on this team. Can 619 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 2: we talk about a Marion Miller? 620 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: Can we do? 621 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 3: Can we? Because seven to eleven watching this game? Eleven 622 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 3: snaps before this. 623 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 2: Yes, before that game he played eleven snaps. 624 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 3: That's insane to me. 625 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 2: Seven for one ninety six in a tuddy. 626 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 3: Dude. He was unbelievable and he better, I guess do 627 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 3: something moving forward because that's the bar now is he 628 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 3: had the most receiving yards for a debut receiver in 629 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,959 Speaker 3: like twelve years, and and he did it in front 630 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 3: of seven million people. O. Marion Miller is a household 631 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 3: name after one game. Yes, yes, he's getting the same 632 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 3: love that Puka Nakua is getting out for the for 633 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 3: the La Rams. Like this guy came out of nowhere. 634 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 3: Now we just expect him to be good every single week. 635 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 3: This game ended up, your boy, CARMANI MacLean. He got 636 00:39:59,200 --> 00:39:59,720 Speaker 3: some glass. 637 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 2: He was out there strapping up. Yo. It was like, 638 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 2: I'm ready, coach, you called me out. I got in 639 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 2: my playbook, you put me in. I'm ready. Please let 640 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 2: me go. Hey man. Yeah, sometimes sometimes a little call 641 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 2: out is all you need. 642 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 3: And I mean it sounds like we're bashing on the 643 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 3: team that almost dropped fifty, but that's what we expected 644 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 3: going into the game. Yes, Marshawn Lloyd only getting thirteen 645 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 3: carries is insane. Caleb Williams is so good, so good. 646 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 2: Okay, Like he all right? 647 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,959 Speaker 3: Can we work for him every week? 648 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 2: Can we? Can we talk about that for a second, 649 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 2: because that play that got posted on social that seventy 650 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 2: one yard touchdown to Taj Washington. The social media posts 651 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 2: about it, Oh my god, this is heroic play. And listen, 652 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams makes enough ridiculous plays for us not to 653 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 2: have to turn that routine play that half the quarterbacks 654 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 2: in the country could have made into something that was 655 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 2: like groundbreaking, like it was cool. 656 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 3: You're talking about the seventy one yard touchdown pass where 657 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 3: there was no pressure for like six and a half seconds. 658 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and then he moved to the left and 659 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 2: then Todd Washington was buttnaked out there, and he just 660 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 2: threw it to him and then he just ran in. Like, 661 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 2: I didn't see anything special about that play. 662 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 3: Most JV quarterbacks should be able to throw down the 663 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 3: field forty yards without the pocket collapsing at all. He 664 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 3: didn't even need to move the pocket. How little pressure, 665 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:43,399 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. 666 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 2: It was just a regular play. 667 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 3: Like it doesn't make his top ten list of plays 668 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 3: for the season so far. 669 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 2: No, No, he does enough spectacular stuff that we don't 670 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 2: have to reach. That's the up point. So this is 671 00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 2: not eight congrets, Like the dude is unbelievable. Are some 672 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 2: people going to receive that as hate? Ralph? Uh? 673 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think anybody who watches Kaylen 674 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 3: Williams knows that, Like, if you're gonna choose one of 675 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 3: his highlights, that is probably not gonna be corn of 676 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 3: them because he didn't even he didn't face a pass rush. 677 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 3: There was no pass rush. He could have run that 678 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 3: ball for about twenty two to twenty five yards. Yep, 679 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 3: he makes one guy miss, it goes for fifty. 680 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 2: Can we talk about Shader Sanders for a hot second. 681 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 2: He's good he's good and he's clutched. Dude, he finds 682 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,760 Speaker 2: a way to when when the chips are on the line, 683 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 2: to get something done. Now, Colorado made a crucial mistake 684 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:45,479 Speaker 2: in this game. Crucial mistake and that was how long 685 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 2: did it take them to score on that drive? Like 686 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 2: five minutes almost. 687 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 3: Or toward the end of the game when they started 688 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 3: handing the ball off. 689 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 2: Yes, the crowd started booing because the crowd knew that 690 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 2: what they were doing was insanity. 691 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like they were just trying to keep 692 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 3: it close, like they didn't realize that they actually had 693 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 3: a shot to catch up. And they did have a 694 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 3: shot to catch up. This isn't like this is a 695 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 3: one score game like the Washington Arizona games a one 696 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,959 Speaker 3: score game, but they were not the same. 697 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 2: No, not even a little bit. 698 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 3: Arizona Arizona had to score with almost no time left 699 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 3: in order to make that a seven point game. You'd say, yeah, 700 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 3: that's the same for the Colorado game. But it was 701 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,879 Speaker 3: like a twenty seven to seven run there at the end. 702 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 3: Colorado was getting whatever they wanted. Some of the stuff 703 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 3: they were choosing to want was very hard. 704 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 2: You are I like that the things that they were 705 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 2: choosing to want all right now on Oregon forty two 706 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 2: Stanford six Stanford. Now, it was funny. I saw this 707 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 2: stat and people were like, Oregon only had Stanford held 708 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 2: Oregon to six yards in the first quarter. Oregon only 709 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 2: ran three plays in the first quarter, three three, They 710 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 2: had one drive, they went three and out. Stanford kicked it. 711 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 2: So Stanford got the ball first, went down, kicked the 712 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 2: field goal or that either. Yeah. Yeah, they kicked the 713 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 2: field goal three and out. Then they had the ball 714 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 2: the entire quarter and then kicked another field goal and 715 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 2: then the game was over. 716 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't have much to say about this game 717 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 3: for the simple reason that like it played out exactly 718 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 3: the way that I thought it would. You're gonna go 719 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 3: into a stadium with no energy whatsoever. Stanford gainst the 720 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 3: ball first, and they're just really good at holding the ball, 721 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 3: and they don't really turn the ball over. They had 722 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 3: no turnovers against They had no turnovers against University of Arizona, 723 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 3: and I don't think they turned the ball over in 724 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 3: this game either. So they just kind of bleed the 725 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 3: clock and then Oregon had their first first down with 726 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 3: like nine minutes left in the second quarter and from 727 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 3: that point they scored on seven of eight drives and 728 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 3: the eighth was a missed field goal. Yeah, seven of 729 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:11,840 Speaker 3: eight drives. 730 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 2: Hey, man, they pressed the easy button again. Man, they 731 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,240 Speaker 2: pressed the easy button. 732 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 3: Yeah what Ashton Daniels. It looked like maybe got concussed 733 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,359 Speaker 3: in this game. So they had to bring Justin Lampson in. 734 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 3: That's tough because he he's not the guy who's going 735 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 3: to throw the ball down the field. Right. 736 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 2: Yep. I don't like this two quarterback thing. 737 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 3: Dude. 738 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,919 Speaker 2: They put Justin Lampson in to like run the ball 739 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 2: all over the place. Dude had twenty two carries. Move 740 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 2: him to running back, please running? 741 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 3: And they're actually like, I don't understand why e J. 742 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 3: Smith only gets a handful of carries every game. I 743 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 3: don't know if he's not healthy, but yeah, his youth 744 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 3: sperience is crazy to me. 745 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 2: Yep, yep. Ben Ben Scaronic got two carries. 746 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 3: EJ. Smith has twenty five carries in the on the season. 747 00:45:59,080 --> 00:45:59,959 Speaker 3: Halfway through the season. 748 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 2: How many does Casey Philkins have? 749 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 3: Casey Philkins only had seven last week and his seven 750 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,280 Speaker 3: this week. He has thirty one carries on the season. 751 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 3: They're both averaging six and a half year. 752 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 2: How many does Justin Lambson have on the year. 753 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 3: As a part time player. Yes, Justin Lambson has Let's 754 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 3: see here. 755 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 2: And the reason why this is important is because I mean, 756 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 2: are we watching Nafty? So he's got more than the 757 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,760 Speaker 2: two of them combined. Yeah, then your two top running backs, 758 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 2: your quarter your quarter runner guy has more carries than 759 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,760 Speaker 2: both of your running backs combined. Make it make sense, 760 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 2: Make it make sense. I don't know what's Neffert's trying 761 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 2: to do. 762 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 3: Just agreed? All right? 763 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Bo Knicks, Troy Troy Franklin went crazy homecoming. This 764 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 2: was this was a this was not a fair fight. 765 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 2: But it's good to see teams actually dominate bad teams 766 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 2: and don't and don't let them put up touchdowns. Feels good. 767 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 3: Forty two to six is a weird score to have 768 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 3: two weeks in a row. 769 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is. It really is. And considering that 770 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 2: one of them was a touchdown, the other one was 771 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:32,879 Speaker 2: a two field goals to make it more weird. All right. 772 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 2: Washington thirty one, Arizona twenty four, Ralph m hm. And 773 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 2: you talked about that this was actually Arizona scored super 774 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,839 Speaker 2: late to make this even closer, But can we talk 775 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 2: about is there a quarterback controversy in Arizona? 776 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. 777 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:58,320 Speaker 2: Nofita was for his first start. This was very impressive. 778 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 2: What do you say? Thirty nine two three? 779 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 3: They looked they seem the same. They kind of seem 780 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,920 Speaker 3: like the same place, and so you look at it 781 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,399 Speaker 3: and you're like, well, if they're the same, maybe we 782 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 3: go with the guy. 783 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 2: That's so, do you think no Noah has blow up potential? 784 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 2: Like I mean, like, like. 785 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,359 Speaker 3: What interception was his interception was? Like? Did they put 786 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 3: Jaden back on the field? 787 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 2: What else is? 788 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:28,839 Speaker 3: It? Was like? 789 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 2: But but it's also his first start pitch. Yeah, so 790 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. It was his first start. So 791 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 2: do you get a second pick dropped? Yep? Saw that. 792 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. I thought he looked good, I thought, 793 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 3: saying it's his very ways. Yes, that's what I'm saying. 794 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,359 Speaker 3: He looked like Jaden de Laura. He looked like Jaden 795 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 3: DeLaura out there, and Jaden de Laura has thirty pac 796 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 3: twelve starts under his belt. 797 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so now which way do you go? Because is 798 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 2: he is he Jayden and he's just gonna keep doing 799 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 2: this like keep you know, playing exactly like Jayden at 800 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 2: where he's good and terrible at the same time or 801 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 2: great and terrible at the same time. Or is he 802 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 2: going to as he gets more reps, become more comfortable, 803 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 2: take better care of the football because that's who he 804 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 2: was in high school. 805 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 3: I think you can at this point you can probably 806 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,839 Speaker 3: afford to let Jaden get healthy. But I mean, if 807 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 3: he goes out there and he beats somebody that maybe 808 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 3: they shouldn't beat, I don't know. It looked consistent to me. 809 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 3: It did not look like there was a drop off, 810 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 3: and I think that that is interesting. Yeah, and he 811 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 3: does go out at Temac a lot, goes a lot. 812 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 2: Well that's high school. Well, him and the receipt and 813 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 2: the and the the and their tight end. That's also 814 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 2: there at Arizona as well. So that's Arizona. Now you 815 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:02,720 Speaker 2: dub you dub guys. Shut down they got shut down 816 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 2: only thirty one point No, I'm joking, only thirty one 817 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 2: points and Michael Pennix junior shut down. No touchdowns. They 818 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 2: held him, They held him in checked for for three 819 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty for three hundred and sixty three yards, 820 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 2: bottled him up. I'm I'm joking. I'm joking. They bottled 821 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 2: up Roma Doonze no hundred yard game, Bernard, no hundred yard, 822 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 2: no hundred yard wide receivers. Arizona put them in a headlock. 823 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 2: I'm joking. I don't want people to get just be 824 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 2: like hey, yo, no he's no. No, I'm joking. This 825 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,880 Speaker 2: was a dominating offensive performance. It just didn't have the 826 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,839 Speaker 2: amount of points. But I do think that this also 827 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 2: shows that I mean number number one. They were playing 828 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 2: in Arizona in two, which is a tough place to play, 829 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 2: and they haven't had a lot of success in Tucson 830 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 2: or in Tempe. So how would you grade you dub 831 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 2: for this win? Granted, a win is a win, so 832 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 2: as Dad Lanning said, one A is to win, So 833 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 2: they got an A for that, and then or a 834 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 2: ten however you want to judge it, and then one 835 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,280 Speaker 2: B is the standard. So did they meet the standard? 836 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 3: This game actually scared me a little bit. I was 837 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 3: wondering if Washington was for real, and then I watched 838 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 3: a team say, okay, you can have everything in front 839 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 3: of us, nothing's gonna go behind us, but we'll let 840 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 3: you take whatever you want from five to fifteen yards 841 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 3: and Washington just goes, all right, we'll take it, and 842 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,360 Speaker 3: that was the end of the game. It was just 843 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 3: over at that point because they managed to do it. 844 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,839 Speaker 3: And I think the whole thing is, like, make them 845 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 3: run more plays, maybe they'll make more mistakes. Yeah, they 846 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 3: did have a fumble in the red zone at the 847 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 3: end of the game that Arizona was not able to 848 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,800 Speaker 3: capitalize on. That's the one that preceded the toss play pick. 849 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 2: Yes, so it could have been a little closer earlier. 850 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it was a good game plan 851 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 3: on Arizona's behalf. But like you just have to wonder, 852 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 3: does Washington have the patience to just take everything we 853 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 3: offer them and run their offense that way? And the 854 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 3: answer is yes, because without going over the top, without 855 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 3: giving Michael Pennix the deep ball, he's still averaged nine 856 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 3: yards per attempt, which is insane to me. Three hundred 857 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 3: and sixty three yards thirty of forty. The only time 858 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 3: that I feel like they deviated from the game plan 859 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 3: is their second to last possession, when they had the 860 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,319 Speaker 3: opportunity to run the clock down. They went out in 861 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 3: three through times, like through three times, like they were 862 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 3: chasing the Heisman. Yes, that got them. Should have done that. 863 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,760 Speaker 2: That's gonna be hard for coaches because they like, Okay, 864 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 2: we haven't thrown a touch touchdown. We need to get 865 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 2: him a touchdown. We need to get him a touchdown. 866 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 2: And yeah, so U du still a good team. I 867 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,799 Speaker 2: would not have moved them down in the polls, but 868 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 2: you know they did allow a little bit of that 869 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 2: caping for Washington to cool down a little bit. Had 870 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 2: they won this game by had they won this game 871 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 2: thirty four to ten, it would have continued. 872 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 3: I hope Roma Doonday's okay. I don't know if you 873 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 3: saw what happened to him at the end of the game. 874 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 2: No, what happened to him. 875 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 3: He jumped on the on side kick about nine yards, 876 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 3: didn't let it go ten just jumped forward and jumped 877 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 3: on it. And then he just got stuck by everybody 878 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 3: on Arizona team. He got walked off the field right 879 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 3: before their last series. So he got The. 880 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,879 Speaker 2: Oregon game is in two weeks. He'll be all right, 881 00:53:53,280 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 2: He'll listen. His body will be magically healed. I'm telling you. 882 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 2: If not, they will, they will stick needles in there. 883 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best Sports Talk lineup in 884 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 1: the Nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 885 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 886 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:15,919 Speaker 1: listen live. 887 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 2: Last game up for the week Arizona State twenty one, 888 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 2: CAL twenty four. Did you want to cry at the 889 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 2: end of his game, Ralph? 890 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 3: No, what's weird is I think some of the most 891 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,359 Speaker 3: toxic's the wrong word. Some of the most emotional reactions 892 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:38,560 Speaker 3: to ASU so far this year came in people watching 893 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 3: this game, and to me, it looked like the better 894 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:45,319 Speaker 3: team won. ASU played pretty impressive on the defensive side 895 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 3: of the ball. They don't trust their quarterback in goal 896 00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 3: line situations, so they kept running that wildcat out there. Sato. Yeah, yeah, 897 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 3: but I did not know that boy was like five 898 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:04,720 Speaker 3: to nine and yeah, five nine, five ninety. 899 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he's a bullet fire hydrant. 900 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. He he did some positive things in this game, 901 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,319 Speaker 3: but you know, he's not really the guy that's gonna 902 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 3: burst through the line and get twenty yards on a run. No, 903 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you. They had offensive 904 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:27,400 Speaker 3: linemen like four, seven, nine, twelve, and thirteen on the field, 905 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 3: so he. 906 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 2: Still got twenty one points. Trenton Wargay your guy, the 907 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 2: guy that you stamped for all the time. Yeah, twenty 908 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 2: six for forty one for three, forty four, no tubs 909 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 2: and a pick. This was a better performance, honestly than 910 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 2: we've seen out of the quarterbacks there so far. 911 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's but it wasn't enough. And that's really all 912 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 3: that people care about. Yep, that's all the people care about. 913 00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 2: So always. Scataboo was the leading receiver too. 914 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's all over an. He threw a twenty yard 915 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,240 Speaker 3: ball to Trenton Borgay that he had to high point 916 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 3: because he was not open. So I don't know. I 917 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,880 Speaker 3: thought the defense played well, but they they lost a 918 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 3: couple more players. They're as beat up as they've ever been. 919 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. I to me, it felt like the 920 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,479 Speaker 3: team that was a little bit better and a little 921 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,759 Speaker 3: bit healthier won the game. Arizona State fans did not 922 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 3: feel the same way. They feel. They felt like ASU 923 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 3: blew it. They gave it away. It's a game they 924 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 3: should have won. But I'm looking at the personnel that 925 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 3: they're putting out there, and I'm like, I don't know, man, 926 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what we can expect 927 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 3: from this team to be able to move the ball 928 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 3: was a nice change though. 929 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was probably good. That makes sense now. 930 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 3: Cal Cal does not still have a starting quarterback there. 931 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 3: They said that they're still evaluating. 932 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 2: How can they not be? Sam Jackson was twelve for 933 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:06,719 Speaker 2: twenty eight for one thirty. When your quarterback is completing 934 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,320 Speaker 2: like forty percent of his passes, yes, you're you are 935 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,879 Speaker 2: going to be reeling a little bit. I don't know 936 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 2: how to. I mean, honestly, I don't. I don't even 937 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 2: know how they're He's completing fifty two percent of the 938 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 2: passes on the year. That is nowhere near where you 939 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 2: need to be. I know Arizona State's defense can be 940 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 2: confusing and everything, but he hasn't completed a high percentage 941 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 2: pretty much all year anyway. And he didn't run the 942 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 2: ball well either, And he's there running guy eight carries 943 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 2: for negative nine yards. 944 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:46,320 Speaker 3: This team is. 945 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 2: I don't even know how to evaluate cow Bro because 946 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 2: they're not going in the right direction and. 947 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 3: They're not good at the portal. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 948 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 2: It feels like we're looking at like Stanford. 949 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 3: Slowly dying. 950 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 2: Yes, except for Cal has a better path to get 951 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 2: better because they can at least get kids in school, 952 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,400 Speaker 2: because if they got that whole Marshawn Lynch d Jack 953 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 2: Crew in school, you can you can get who you 954 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 2: want to. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, and I 955 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 2: like those guys, but facts of facts are facts all right. 956 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 2: Now our PAC twelve Power rankings, now it was my 957 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 2: turn to rank them. Ralph had the chance to switch them. 958 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 2: And Ralph decided to make a switch this weekend. And 959 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,640 Speaker 2: you know what I said, Okay, Ralph, you know you 960 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 2: know what. I'm not gonna switch a thing. I'm gonna 961 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 2: let you live with these consequences, buddy. And uh, here 962 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 2: is what we got. Washington at number one, Oregon at 963 00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 2: number two, Wazoo at number three, So Washington State at 964 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 2: number three, USC at number four, Oregon State at five, 965 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 2: Colorado at six, Utah at seven, Ucla at eight, Arizona 966 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:17,760 Speaker 2: at nine, CAL at ten, Arizona State at eleven, and 967 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 2: Stanford at twelve. Now where he switched, he switched Washington 968 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 2: State and USC at three and four. Now, in all honesty, 969 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 2: I couldn't I couldn't even argue. I don't think it's terrible, 970 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 2: but I know that you that that that some of 971 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 2: you people are gonna feel it's terrible and and if 972 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 2: you guys are looking for like re reaffirming thoughts and 973 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 2: all of that stuff, then maybe the podcast Champions is 974 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 2: the right place for you, for you USC fans. 975 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 3: They have them at four two, they have them at 976 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,560 Speaker 3: four to two. I think, oh they do. I think 977 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 3: they do. 978 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, hey, good on, good on you for 979 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 2: being honest. 980 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,520 Speaker 3: Good. I look at Washington State. I look at Washington State, 981 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 3: and I look at you USC, And I know you're 982 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,919 Speaker 3: gonna hate this because you get the boogie peanut butter. 983 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 3: But you get that. You see that Kroger or the 984 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,439 Speaker 3: Great Value peanut butter with the red lid, red lids, 985 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 3: red lid, it really is the same. It's the same 986 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 3: Jiff and the Great Value red lid peanut. 987 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 2: Well, well, I don't, I don't. I don't eat Jiff anyway. 988 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 3: No, That's what I'm saying. You don't. You don't eat 989 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 3: the plastic lid peanut butter. 990 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 2: No, No, I I my peanut butter at a glass jars, buddy, Yeah. 991 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 3: You gotta like break break it with a hammer and 992 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 3: use all the peanut butter in one. No, But I'm for. 993 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 2: For where the oil separates from the dude. For that worst, 994 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 2: that's the worst. When that when the oil separates from 995 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:41,960 Speaker 2: the peanut butter. Do you not long it takes to 996 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 2: churn that stuff to get it back smooth again. 997 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 3: That's why you gotta eat the cheap stuff. But no, 998 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 3: I look at I look at people's sink that Washington 999 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 3: State's like great value or whatever. No, man, they're the 1000 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,400 Speaker 3: real deal. Their offense can hang with anybody. In their 1001 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 3: defense I think is better than USC's. 1002 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 2: I totally agree with their defense being better than USC. 1003 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,919 Speaker 2: The ended at Oregon State game scared a little bit, 1004 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 2: but is what it is. All right, onto this week's 1005 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 2: slate of games, Ralph. Now we only have four PAC 1006 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,600 Speaker 2: twelve games because we are doing what the SEC does. 1007 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 2: We are gearing up for our best matchup, which is 1008 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,600 Speaker 2: Washington versus Oregon two weeks from now. I might fly 1009 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,919 Speaker 2: up there to Eugene for that one, Buddy, I might 1010 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,120 Speaker 2: fly up for that one. And you got Washington State. 1011 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 2: Twelve o'clock kick at UCLA Ucla minus three and a 1012 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 2: half over under fifty nine. 1013 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 3: Ralph, I like Washington State to cover in this game. Obviously. 1014 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,120 Speaker 3: I put them up to number three in the conference, 1015 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 3: and I will take the under on the fifty nine. 1016 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna take the under as well. UCLA, who 1017 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 2: had been able to run the ball so well. The 1018 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 2: left side of their line, in particular, the left side 1019 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 2: of their line is not good. Tackle and tackles atrocious 1020 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:19,120 Speaker 2: right now and left guard just do it? Okay, So 1021 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,959 Speaker 2: the left side of their line is weak, and they're 1022 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:30,360 Speaker 2: doing strange stuff like having the returner block four. What's 1023 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 2: your boy's name? Yankoff Colson Yankoff as the returner. I 1024 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. This feels like Chip 1025 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 2: being too too smart for Chip. I love Chip, but 1026 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 2: sometimes big big brains get I mean, like like Elon Musk. 1027 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 2: He's done some really great things and he's done some 1028 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 2: things where you're like, what what do you? What do 1029 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 2: you think it? 1030 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 3: It's like it feels like tight end jail. You bring 1031 01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 3: up yankof every week. It feels like tight and jealousy. 1032 01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 3: It feels like you wanted to return some kicks and 1033 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 3: get the cheens. No. 1034 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 2: Well, yes, I would have loved to return kicks, but 1035 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,440 Speaker 2: I had no I had no business back there returning kicks. 1036 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:09,440 Speaker 2: How about that? 1037 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:10,640 Speaker 3: Okay? 1038 01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:17,960 Speaker 2: Yes, It's like it's like Utah putting uh uh Pittman 1039 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,680 Speaker 2: back there to return kicks that ain't that. That ain't 1040 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:22,919 Speaker 2: your kick, that ain't your pump. 1041 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 3: So what what's your pick in this game? 1042 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 2: Give me Washington State minus three and a half. Sorry, sorry, Bruins. 1043 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 2: My wife will be in the stadium crying. And the 1044 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 2: over under, oh under under under that fifty nine under. 1045 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 3: You're you're you're on a hot streak. You're seventeen and 1046 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 3: seven this year against the spread and twelve and eight 1047 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,520 Speaker 3: on the over unders. I went five and o last 1048 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 3: week and that brought me within one of you. I'm 1049 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 3: sixteen and eight against the spread. Okay with you overders. 1050 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,960 Speaker 2: Okay, hey, we we're cooking with Chris go this year. Bro, 1051 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 2: all right. Arizona at uc at usc USC minus twenty 1052 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 2: one and a half. This game's in the coliseum. They're 1053 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,680 Speaker 2: probably a little bit upset with the way last week went. 1054 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 2: Now t Mac and Noah Fafeda play at home. If 1055 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 2: Noah Fafieda is back to starting quarterback, could be a 1056 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,000 Speaker 2: good homecoming. He ain't gonna come out here and lay 1057 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 2: an egg. Give me Arizona minus twenty one and a half. 1058 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,200 Speaker 2: I'm sorry not minus no damn twenty one a half 1059 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,400 Speaker 2: plus twenty one and a half, and I will take 1060 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:35,800 Speaker 2: the over of seventy two. 1061 01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,760 Speaker 3: I will go. I'll go with you on Arizona. They 1062 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,480 Speaker 3: keep giving USC these three touchdown minds and they're failing 1063 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 3: to live up to every every week. I like Arizona's 1064 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:47,840 Speaker 3: defense a little bit. If they do that thing where 1065 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:49,680 Speaker 3: they try to keep everything in front of them, they 1066 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,000 Speaker 3: will give up a lot of yards, but there won't 1067 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 3: be as many explosive plays. So I'll also take Arizona 1068 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:55,760 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna take the under. 1069 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 2: Ooh, I was just listening to that. I was like, 1070 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:07,200 Speaker 2: who that under sounds juicy? All right? Colorado Arizona State, Arizona. 1071 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:11,360 Speaker 2: Colorado is going on the road as a four point 1072 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:17,760 Speaker 2: favorite ralph against a complicated defense. They can stop the run. 1073 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 2: Colorado hadn't been able to run it until they played 1074 01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 2: his USC, so I don't know whether they turned a 1075 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 2: corner or whether this is just who USC is. I 1076 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,560 Speaker 2: like the Buffs, man, I like the Buffs to get 1077 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,200 Speaker 2: back on track and get to four and two and 1078 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:40,040 Speaker 2: the over under of sixty No oh, no shot, no shot, bro, 1079 01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:40,959 Speaker 2: I'm taking it. Under. 1080 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,520 Speaker 3: I agree with you. I think Colorado's one touchdown win 1081 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 3: maybe ten points in this game. And I will also 1082 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,919 Speaker 3: take the under. Shout out to Arizona State wearing glow 1083 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,880 Speaker 3: in the dark uniforms at three thirty PM on a 1084 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,120 Speaker 3: channel that nobody has. 1085 01:05:56,040 --> 01:06:01,880 Speaker 2: They must be changing their uniforms for this game. They yeah, 1086 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 2: they have to because they probably thought this was gonna 1087 01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 2: be on national television. I don't know how in week 1088 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 2: six where they thought they would be, but they're right 1089 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,680 Speaker 2: about where I thought they would be at either one 1090 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:19,600 Speaker 2: in four or two and three. Yeah. Now, Oregon State 1091 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:24,480 Speaker 2: Cal Oregon State minus nine and a half at Cal. 1092 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,360 Speaker 2: This is over under fifty two, Ralph. This is a 1093 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:32,320 Speaker 2: trick line. This line is a trick to not be 1094 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,680 Speaker 2: fooled by this. Oregon State will not win by ten points. 1095 01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:39,920 Speaker 2: It's nine and a half points. They will not win 1096 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:49,000 Speaker 2: by that much. Cal's offense is atrocious. But or Oregon 1097 01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 2: State did just put Utah on a headlock. But still 1098 01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go, oh god, I'm reluctantly going with Cal 1099 01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:04,560 Speaker 2: plus nine and a half and the under and the under. 1100 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,240 Speaker 2: I'm saying it's gonna be like a twenty four to 1101 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 2: seventeen game. 1102 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,600 Speaker 3: All right, I will give Oregon State a ten point win. 1103 01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,000 Speaker 3: Let's say twenty four to fourteen, which hits the under 1104 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 3: as well. 1105 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 2: Yikes. All right, well that is it. Where are we 1106 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,080 Speaker 2: on our players of the week. 1107 01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,680 Speaker 3: You're currently leading four to three. I am oh, no, 1108 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,800 Speaker 3: I come back. You last week picked a player who 1109 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 3: only had one touchdown in Marshawn Lloyd because they didn't 1110 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,640 Speaker 3: really give them the ball that much, while bo Nicks 1111 01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,800 Speaker 3: had four touchdown passes in like four consecutive games. Insane, bro, 1112 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,120 Speaker 3: I get the one point when you get to pick 1113 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,040 Speaker 3: first this week. You just can't pick a player you've 1114 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:45,520 Speaker 3: already picked. 1115 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,959 Speaker 2: I cannot believe they let me down with Marshawn Lloyd 1116 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,200 Speaker 2: versus Colorado. That's so gross because they were scoring from 1117 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:57,240 Speaker 2: fifty instead are scoring from close. All right, I will 1118 01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,880 Speaker 2: take cam Ward. 1119 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:07,560 Speaker 3: Okay. Interesting? Interesting, you blocked me from taking somebody that 1120 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:11,120 Speaker 3: I was going to actually take on Washington State Ross. 1121 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,120 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna tell you. I'm not gonna tell you 1122 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:18,960 Speaker 3: how did I block well? Because if this player would 1123 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 3: have done well, it would have been because came woardon 1124 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:27,920 Speaker 3: did well? Oh okay, yes, all right, I'm going shaduor Sanders. 1125 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,920 Speaker 2: Ooh this is this is gonna be a close one. Oh, 1126 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:34,920 Speaker 2: this was gonna be close close. 1127 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:41,760 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, come on Colorado running Backs, because because 1128 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,320 Speaker 4: cam Ward is gonna score at least a couple of 1129 01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,879 Speaker 4: touchdowns running over passing. 1130 01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,360 Speaker 2: So we shall see. But you guys, that is the 1131 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,760 Speaker 2: PAC twelve Apostles this week. Make sure you subscribe, Tell 1132 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 2: a friend, share the episode, peace out. Catch you guys 1133 01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:55,840 Speaker 2: next week