Speaker 1: Hey, there are folks from Italy once again. And in
Speaker 1: this episode, Rabak and I explain why we really want
Speaker 1: to get back home. Also in this episode, while we
Speaker 1: kind of don't want to come home at all, and
Speaker 1: with a with that, welcome to this episode of Amy
Speaker 1: and TJ. Robys explain the setting again, where we are
Speaker 1: and why you were you were hoping I wasn't going
Speaker 1: to say we should record this podcast from where we
Speaker 1: actually are.
Speaker 2: Yes, because the real field temperature is ninety nine degrees feel,
Speaker 2: you know, I love the real feel, the humidity. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's hot in Rome, and I know it's hot in
Speaker 2: a lot of places, but yes, it is a hot
Speaker 2: city here. And so yes, we have a lovely air
Speaker 2: conditioned apartment that we're staying in, but we are instead
Speaker 2: out on the terrace enjoying the heat that you say
Speaker 2: recharges you.
Speaker 1: It is. I don't know if I'm a freak about it.
Speaker 1: I'm just the weird dude in that way. But yes,
Speaker 1: I like when the sun hits me. It's almost like
Speaker 1: it's an energy boost. It does. It feels like a
Speaker 1: character on a video game where you get recharged and
Speaker 1: you see the energy that battery level go up. That's
Speaker 1: how it feels to me when the sun hits me
Speaker 1: while you're trying to escape and walk in the shade.
Speaker 2: Yes, so I feel the opposite where I feel my
Speaker 2: energy being like depleted, like it's being sucked out of me.
Speaker 2: So yes, it's a very different experience. But I am
Speaker 2: in the shade, that's the good compromise. I'm not in
Speaker 2: the sun out of balcony. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm feeling good and we have had a great trip.
Speaker 1: The trips has been fantastic. There was you finally snapped
Speaker 1: at me the other day. We're not going to get
Speaker 1: into that now. We'll get that into that on a
Speaker 1: later episode. But it's been so weird to be here
Speaker 1: and out of pocket. When it comes to news, we
Speaker 1: are actually in a place that we cannot watch live
Speaker 1: local television, so we'd have to really go through an
Speaker 1: effort to try to find it to figure it out.
Speaker 1: So we haven't been keeping up necessarily with the news
Speaker 1: other than news alerts and whatnot.
Speaker 2: Be being yes, and thank goodness for those, because we
Speaker 2: haven't even passed one newspaper. You mentioned that, you know,
Speaker 2: we're walking the streets here and for days now and
Speaker 2: I have not seen one newsstand. I haven't seen one newspaper,
Speaker 2: which is maybe it's a New York thing. I don't
Speaker 2: know that you have the expectation that you would. So
Speaker 2: when we woke up this morning in Rome, yeah, we
Speaker 2: woke up to the shocking news that I guess most
Speaker 2: people saw when it happened, as it happened, former President
Speaker 2: Trump out on the campaign rally with an assassination attempt.
Speaker 2: And we watched the video and it felt weird to
Speaker 2: be so far away.
Speaker 1: And I haven't Yeah, I'm the early rise or anybody
Speaker 1: listened to us. No, I'm always up and awaken. I
Speaker 1: try to leave you alone. This was one this morning.
Speaker 1: I said I needed to tell you were dead asleep, yep,
Speaker 1: And I just wanted to pass that along. Do you remember, though,
Speaker 1: you had a little time now to take it in
Speaker 1: and we talked about it and what did it being
Speaker 1: all these things, but with that first reaction of your
Speaker 1: was when you heard it, Well.
Speaker 2: It just makes you feel sick, sick that we're in
Speaker 2: a place where that could still happen. And that's scary
Speaker 2: to me because I actually, because I am older than you,
Speaker 2: I so remember the last presidential assassination attempt, which was
Speaker 2: President Ronald Reagan. And I believe I might be fact
Speaker 2: checked on this one, but I was in second grade,
Speaker 2: so it was nineteen eighty one, nineteen eighty two. It
Speaker 2: was between the two of those, and I remember as
Speaker 2: a kid being scared and feeling threatened and feeling just
Speaker 2: it was. It's alarming, and it makes you feel insecure
Speaker 2: in every way.
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen to us. That's the thing. We see
Speaker 1: this stuff happening overseas. We have seen it happen other
Speaker 1: countries and places that are unstable. The fact that someone
Speaker 1: actually took a shot at President Trump and almost killed him.
Speaker 1: Now for a worst case scenario, it was a millimeter away,
Speaker 1: best case scenario, even it was inches away.
Speaker 2: Either way, an inch away the most it could.
Speaker 1: We almost had a president's or candidate killed. It's just
Speaker 1: that feeling of that January sixth feeling, or you're watching
Speaker 1: live images of Wait a minute, this is the United States,
Speaker 1: this is happening.
Speaker 2: How is this happening?
Speaker 1: How is that happening? This is not a political thing.
Speaker 1: This is not a whatever you think about him, everything
Speaker 1: about Biden, that's not what it's about. How the hell
Speaker 1: are we here?
Speaker 2: But the scary thing is you know that that's what
Speaker 2: it's all going to be about. That's the thing. You know,
Speaker 2: whatever the intention and whatever the motive, you know, we
Speaker 2: may never fully know. We'll have to wait and see
Speaker 2: on that. I know, we just got worried that the
Speaker 2: shooter at the alleged shooter was reportedly a registered Republican,
Speaker 2: So I mean, who knows what was behind the shooting.
Speaker 2: But regardless, this is going to be a disgusting political
Speaker 2: football that is going to be thrown around in such
Speaker 2: a sad way. I think it's just been really sad
Speaker 2: to watch all of the coverage and where we are
Speaker 2: as a nation. It's it's credibly alarming, and to see
Speaker 2: it result in this kind of violence for whatever reason
Speaker 2: is deeply, deeply disturbing. There's no one who loves our
Speaker 2: country who shouldn't be massively concerned about where we are
Speaker 2: and where we're headed.
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about that. I wonder and everybody
Speaker 1: ask yourself an honest question. When you heard that President
Speaker 1: Trump that somebody took a shot at him, what was
Speaker 1: your reaction? Also when you heard that he has survived
Speaker 1: the attempt, what was your reaction? I don't need do
Speaker 1: You don't need to go post it, you don't need
Speaker 1: to go talk about it. Daniel, just ask yourself where
Speaker 1: you are personally to hear when you heard that somebody
Speaker 1: took a shot at a guy that's running for president,
Speaker 1: and if you're react, I don't know. I just wonder
Speaker 1: how people being honest with themselves.
Speaker 2: The concern that I think you're referencing is when you're
Speaker 2: asking yourself, was there a part of you, yes, that
Speaker 2: was deeply disturbed and scared and upset and saddened, or
Speaker 2: was there a part of you that had an opposite feeling?
Speaker 2: Like that's an indication that we're not looking at people
Speaker 2: candidates as human beings. And I think because we get
Speaker 2: so desensitized by our political beliefs or what news we
Speaker 2: choose to look at or use for our point of reference,
Speaker 2: you get into this tribal mentality where it's us versus them,
Speaker 2: and then you almost you feel something that is less
Speaker 2: than human about other people. And that is what's scary
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, here we are, right. If there's somebody
Speaker 1: on the other side of that say, oh, they took
Speaker 1: a shot at our guy, then I guess came on,
Speaker 1: like you take a shot at their guy. This is
Speaker 1: what we're doing now, and I just it's not what
Speaker 1: we do. I don't know what's going on with this
Speaker 1: young man, how disturbed he might have been, how he
Speaker 1: could have been influenced. All those answers will come, but
Speaker 1: there's just it's nineteen fifty years ago. It's just it's
Speaker 1: not what we do. It's not at all what we're
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing. And the image that we you
Speaker 1: and I, we don't have politics here, right, but that
Speaker 1: image now of President Trump, blood coming down his ear,
Speaker 1: his face and he's actually putting his fists in the
Speaker 1: air saying fight Now, that image is iconic. It will
Speaker 1: go down in the history of this country. But there's
Speaker 1: somebody out there, there's somebodies out there who see that
Speaker 1: as maybe a rallying crime. You get concerned about he
Speaker 1: just gave me my marching orders, and you're worried that
Speaker 1: there's another disturbed individual out there who will see it
Speaker 1: as such.
Speaker 2: I think you and I and I know that I
Speaker 2: can speak to my career in journalism and having covered gosh,
Speaker 2: I just feel like so many school shootings and terror attacks,
Speaker 2: it's just it's scary. It's alarming. We know, like as journalists,
Speaker 2: we don't cover suicides because we don't want to inspire
Speaker 2: other people to do the same for some sort of
Speaker 2: glorifying effect. The same is true now. When we got
Speaker 2: to a point where we were covering so many mass shootings,
Speaker 2: school shootings to whatever, domestic terrorism, we stopped talking about
Speaker 2: the shooter, which I'm not even gonna mention his name
Speaker 2: here on this podcast for that very reason, because you
Speaker 2: don't want people to think they then get some sort
Speaker 2: of fame, some infamy, some you know, something that puts
Speaker 2: their name in the history book. So it's just it
Speaker 2: is scary to me with something like this that there
Speaker 2: are potentially copycat or retaliatory potential here. It's just scary.
Speaker 2: The whole thing is just frightening. And to be overseas
Speaker 2: and to be disconnected from the States just feels a
Speaker 2: little strange.
Speaker 1: You know, what does it feel like that to you there?
Speaker 1: It's been a couple of these have happened, I suppose,
Speaker 1: but we know, given the positions we had our former jobs,
Speaker 1: when news happens, we were gone, we were on the road.
Speaker 1: This is unlike so we've seen so many things like
Speaker 1: we would have been there, we would have been covering that,
Speaker 1: and you we don't see it and we say I
Speaker 1: could have done a better job, and that kind of
Speaker 1: a thing. But you just look at it and feel
Speaker 1: like you're on the outs from what you from what
Speaker 1: you used to do. Yeah, i'd be honest with yourself
Speaker 1: about that sometimes how that feels. But you also have
Speaker 1: to be and you and I have come it to
Speaker 1: peace with it, but that thing still is kind of
Speaker 1: there sometimes when the story some stories this big happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as an adult, if oh, in the last twenty years,
Speaker 2: if anything major happened, yeah, I would have assumed that
Speaker 2: I was going to be on a plane heading somewhere. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So it's it is different and no matter where I
Speaker 2: was in the world, I'd be on a plane heading wherever.
Speaker 2: So just you know, to not But it's been interesting
Speaker 2: watching the car. We've been able to watch a little
Speaker 2: bit of coverage.
Speaker 1: There's only one actually network we can get on our laptop,
Speaker 1: and it's interesting watching that, right, that's the.
Speaker 2: One we can watch here in nationals. So we've been
Speaker 2: watching Fox News's coverage of the attempted assassination, and that's
Speaker 2: you know, that's that's what we've been doing for several
Speaker 2: hours here in Rome, watching it from Afar. But yes,
Speaker 2: and just interestingly, both of my daughters are in Europe too,
Speaker 2: so we've all been just texting each other about what happened.
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't. It's weird because we're here
Speaker 2: and there aren't interestingly that many Americans, and it you
Speaker 2: wouldn't know anything had happened in the world from being
Speaker 2: out today just seeing everyone. It's a sunday here in Rome.
Speaker 2: And it's because maybe because we don't have access to newspapers,
Speaker 2: we haven't seen them there. It's you would never have
Speaker 2: known if we hadn't had these smartphones, if you didn't
Speaker 2: have news alerts on your phones, like you would not
Speaker 2: know that anything had happened, which is kind of insane.
Speaker 1: It stings, I mean, it sucks to be. It's a
Speaker 1: weird thing to where you you all obviously were not
Speaker 1: the people that the country turns to, right, it's not
Speaker 1: that kind of a situation, but you feel like something
Speaker 1: is going on at home. We need to get home, right,
Speaker 1: we need to it just it's a weird thing. You
Speaker 1: feel like that, almost as if like you're something happened
Speaker 1: with your kid at home. I got to cut the
Speaker 1: trip short. Need to get back. It feels like a
Speaker 1: weird thing about the United States is Jesus crime any
Speaker 1: I know. That's where we're going. The bad news just
Speaker 1: keeps coming. Now, that's an awful story there when I
Speaker 1: say the bad news keeps coming in that since we've
Speaker 1: got here, legends have been falling. Yeah, legends. And if
Speaker 1: you all can hear in the back drop, we got
Speaker 1: another A lot of churches here.
Speaker 2: Church, yes, they they happen quite frequently on the hour.
Speaker 1: Actually, what would you compare it to in the United States?
Speaker 1: Church is here as much as the Starbucks is in Manhattan.
Speaker 2: I mean it's yes, I know this is is this
Speaker 2: called the Enlightened City, but I feel like it's a
Speaker 2: holy It's obviously a holy city. But there are basilicas everywhere.
Speaker 2: I think we have two basilicas just that I can
Speaker 2: see right now. There are domes and you laugh because
Speaker 2: I love saying that word.
Speaker 1: You see, Yes, basilically.
Speaker 2: There are so many around here. But yes, the church
Speaker 2: best soul. And then apropos today. Apropos today, just because
Speaker 2: I think also catching up on news. You know, I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's there's any truth to this, and
Speaker 2: if this was anything outside of the New World, but
Speaker 2: in our world, in the news world, we used to
Speaker 2: always say people died in threes, and so if there
Speaker 2: was somebody important who died in the second person, you
Speaker 2: always knew there was a third. But we've actually had
Speaker 2: four people who have passed in the last four days
Speaker 2: that have been just such a huge part of our
Speaker 2: culture and our lives in a lot of ways, personally
Speaker 2: for me one of them, but just in so many ways,
Speaker 2: people who we grew up with, who we looked up to.
Speaker 2: And it started July eleventh, correct, when we lost Shelley Duval.
Speaker 1: Shelley July eleventh, Shelley de Val, July twelfth.
Speaker 2: July twelfth was doctor Ruth. Thirteenth, that was Richard Simmons.
Speaker 1: And then July fourteenth, which is we got.
Speaker 2: Up to the news Shannon Doherty.
Speaker 1: Shannon Doherty. So that's four straight days. Wow, four folks
Speaker 1: who not just these folks aren't just famous, These folks
Speaker 1: are legendary. These folks are iconic, part of something arconic.
Speaker 1: They have they have been cultural game changes. It's bizarre.
Speaker 1: Boom boom boom boom, and it's been weird to get
Speaker 1: the the news every day. Of course, go back to
Speaker 1: Chilley Devall. We have anybody who listens knows where horror
Speaker 1: movie horror movie fanatics, and if the Shining on your.
Speaker 2: List, yeah, I mean she and she just nailed that
Speaker 2: role and just such an iconic part of that movie.
Speaker 2: But just anyone who loves horror movies, you know who
Speaker 2: Chelley Devall is. You saw her genius in that movie
Speaker 2: and she will be sorely. But she was seventy six,
Speaker 2: I believe, So she was so young when she did
Speaker 2: The Shining. I was thinking back to how young she
Speaker 2: was at that point.
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, I didn't realize how because when you when
Speaker 1: you just told me short time ago she was seventy six,
Speaker 1: Like really that's it these days, that seems young and
Speaker 1: she's just been around so long that I'm shocked that
Speaker 1: that was her age. And we of course Shining. But
Speaker 1: as a kid, I mean Popeye was a big deal.
Speaker 2: Well she was all its olive oil.
Speaker 1: And to uh yeah, I was two or three when
Speaker 1: that movie came out, Robin Williams as freaking Popeye and
Speaker 1: it was a favorite for me as a kid. But
Speaker 1: she she had a unique look to her. She was talented,
Speaker 1: and olive oil was the character. It seems like I
Speaker 1: think even the producer director that this was she was
Speaker 1: born to play Olive Oils.
Speaker 2: She really was.
Speaker 1: It sounds like a weird compliment, but it is a compliment.
Speaker 2: And she she will be missed. And I think we're
Speaker 2: going to be watching the shining here and the next
Speaker 2: day to you know, we're going to do that.
Speaker 1: Yes, And then so doctor Ruth Nix, that's.
Speaker 2: Amazing, incredible, incredible, and she helped so many couples, so
Speaker 2: many ways. I actually, did you ever get to interview her?
Speaker 1: I met so she.
Speaker 2: Came on MSNBC. Uh, I don't even know, way back when,
Speaker 2: and she was just always, oh my goodness. And I
Speaker 2: remember she was just bold and a believer in talking
Speaker 2: about sex in a way that nobody was ready to
Speaker 2: I certainly was it raised that way. And I loved
Speaker 2: her just pushing a topic and a concept and something
Speaker 2: that is so important that we don't talk about. I
Speaker 2: love how she rushed it.
Speaker 1: I have it right. She wasn't, she wasn't vulgar. She
Speaker 1: was just talking about it at a time where women
Speaker 1: were not supposed to be talking about such things, right, correct?
Speaker 1: So these days a A, A Megan the Stallion or
Speaker 1: a right, we talk about we celebrate women who are
Speaker 1: so open about there about sex, about sexuality. I only
Speaker 1: mentioned two rappers there, but I mean, yeah, from TV
Speaker 1: shows to who whatever it may be, she was doing
Speaker 1: it before all of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I remember she made me blush like I
Speaker 2: just thought, oh my gosh. Wow. But and she lived
Speaker 2: a long, beautiful life.
Speaker 1: What did she say to you to make you blushed?
Speaker 2: Well, honestly, oh my god. Being raised the way I was, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: just saying the word sex, like what did you just say? No?
Speaker 2: She was won and she did change so many people's
Speaker 2: lives for the better. So she is also and the
Speaker 2: work she did in the books she wrote live on
Speaker 2: and that is her legend for sure.
Speaker 1: A life, a long life. There's a And again I
Speaker 1: know Shelley de Vall, Richard Simmons, doctor Ruth Shannon Doherty.
Speaker 2: This.
Speaker 1: Anytime somebody passes, it's it's supposed to be sad. It's
Speaker 1: supposed to me, and it should be. We're gonna miss
Speaker 1: But I was raised in such a way and many
Speaker 1: folks I know, I've never been to a sad funeral.
Speaker 1: All right, they're homegoing celebrations and they're almost parties. All
Speaker 1: the funerals I've gone to, I applaud, I celebrate Shelley Devall,
Speaker 1: Richard Simmons, doctor Ruth, Shannon Doherty and all they've done.
Speaker 1: But I you said it to me. You walked in
Speaker 1: here a short time ago. Inside you were I think
Speaker 1: you were reading about Shannon Doherty, and you came in.
Speaker 1: You gave me a big hug, and you said, I
Speaker 1: am so happy to be with here, with you here,
Speaker 1: and I love you. And you said it was because
Speaker 1: of all this stuff you had been reading. And I
Speaker 1: get that, and that's okay to get those reminders, but damn,
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have to have somebody pass before we realize
Speaker 1: we should live.
Speaker 2: Yes, And I think my point is I hate that
Speaker 2: that always or can be the impetus. But sometimes, you know,
Speaker 2: when something that sad does occur, when we do lose
Speaker 2: someone who was or people who were so important to
Speaker 2: part of our culture and remind us, maybe take us
Speaker 2: back to a time, you know, when we were younger
Speaker 2: or freer, or what we learned from them. You know,
Speaker 2: I think Richard Simmons does that for so many people.
Speaker 2: He inspired so many people to lose weight with his
Speaker 2: story and put himself out there in a way and
Speaker 2: and and kind of flew his flag that was different
Speaker 2: than everyone else's and didn't care and did it anyway
Speaker 2: with those short shorts and just being his sassy self
Speaker 2: at a time where that wasn't necessarily celebrated. And I
Speaker 2: always thought he was such a cool individual who I
Speaker 2: think obviously struggled with so much but shared it with
Speaker 2: people so they didn't feel alone. And that was a
Speaker 2: part of the connection that so many people had with him.
Speaker 1: What was that what we were talking about? I think
Speaker 1: I was talking about Jeff Goblum and Kevin Bacon yea,
Speaker 1: and people can think what they want about them, but
Speaker 1: they reached I was asking you, how do you get
Speaker 1: to this like beloved level? Richard Simmons now you're talking
Speaker 1: about was just beloved. What time did you ever think
Speaker 1: about Richard Simmons that you didn't feel good or smile.
Speaker 2: Because he was so vulnerable, Like he was vulnerable and
Speaker 2: then you know, and then at the end of his life,
Speaker 2: I remember it was just sad to me because he wanted,
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, to just to not be in the
Speaker 2: public eye, which I get. He gave so much of
Speaker 2: his life to other people and too celebrating other people
Speaker 2: that people wanted him to keep being that person for them,
Speaker 2: but he needed to do what he needed to do
Speaker 2: for himself. And yeah, I just you know, I applauded
Speaker 2: his choice to do that, and people thought it was
Speaker 2: strange and wanted to put all these conspiracy theories behind it.
Speaker 2: But I was able to actually talk. We of course
Speaker 2: at ABC News, we were trying to get the interview
Speaker 2: when that was all being speculated speculated about, and I
Speaker 2: remember getting to talk to his publicist, one of his
Speaker 2: dear friends, and he assured me, he's fine, this is
Speaker 2: his choice, and you know, we obviously we let it go.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's good to hear. And I remember thinking, like,
Speaker 2: I hope that's true, and I certainly hope it was
Speaker 2: till the end.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's seventy six. There's nothing if I just say,
Speaker 1: Richard Simmons.
Speaker 2: To anybody, he smiled.
Speaker 1: Whatever comes to your whatever image is going to be
Speaker 1: a positive one. A You're gonna smile.
Speaker 2: And I think about those striped shorts, and I think
Speaker 2: about the.
Speaker 1: Energy he was. I never saw him down. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know everybody's got their personal whatever, but I just
Speaker 1: the light he brought to the world from a guy
Speaker 1: like me who never watched a Richard Simmons workout video,
Speaker 1: went into the oldies, who never met him, never talked
Speaker 1: to him, never did anything related to him, but love him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've love that, and that's that's an impact. That's
Speaker 2: his legacy. And Shanna Doherty, that one has been hard
Speaker 2: for me today. And you asked like you're like robes,
Speaker 2: don't make this sad, and I and I won't make
Speaker 2: it sad. But I got to do the sit down
Speaker 2: with her when she announced that in twenty nineteen that
Speaker 2: she had stage four metastatic breast cancer. And she had
Speaker 2: such an impact on me because we were diagnosed two
Speaker 2: years apart initially, and she was declared cancer free. I
Speaker 2: was declared cancer free. She chose her, you know, her
Speaker 2: post cancer treatments, and I chose mine. And every cancer
Speaker 2: is different, but she and I connected, and she knew
Speaker 2: she was in a fight for her life, and I
Speaker 2: just always marveled at her bravery. I loved her as
Speaker 2: Brenda Walsh on nine o two one, oh, so I
Speaker 2: was so excited to get to actually meet her. That
Speaker 2: was the first time I got to meet her. But
Speaker 2: I was blown away by her and her vulnerability and
Speaker 2: her willingness to share her story to help other people
Speaker 2: get through really tough time. So anyone to me who's
Speaker 2: willing like she, and if you don't want to, that's fine,
Speaker 2: but just to see her her bravery in fighting it,
Speaker 2: but her bravery and taking it very publicly. It helps
Speaker 2: so many people going through that same battle. But it's
Speaker 2: still a very sad day that she lost her battle.
Speaker 2: And you know, we were talking about this. I don't
Speaker 2: know the origins, but the thing that I have taken
Speaker 2: away from Shannon was what she said to me. She
Speaker 2: referenced a Charlie Brown. I've talked about this before, but
Speaker 2: she referenced to Charlie brown Snoopy cartoon that she looked at,
Speaker 2: She said daily, like in the morning, to just remind her.
Speaker 2: She knew her time was limited. All of our time
Speaker 2: is limited, but she was acutely aware of it, obviously,
Speaker 2: and she she quoted it for me. She said, Charlie
Speaker 2: Brown says to Snoopy, Yolo, Snoopy, you only live one
Speaker 2: since Snoopy said you know you got it wrong, Charlie Brown.
Speaker 2: You only die once. We live every day, and that
Speaker 2: was how she chose to live these last few years.
Speaker 2: But all like I said, also very publicly, and for that,
Speaker 2: I appreciate all that she gave and all that she did.
Speaker 1: She's another one you. These are Shelley Duvall, Richard Simmons,
Speaker 1: Shannon Doherty, Doctor Ruth. I did not watch nine o
Speaker 1: two one.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I did not read a single Doctor Ruth column. I
Speaker 1: did not watch a single Richard Simmons video. I love
Speaker 1: the Shining, I love Popeye, but other than that, it's
Speaker 1: just not right. But it's amazing that that's how you
Speaker 1: can tell the impact they've had on a society. There
Speaker 1: are a lot of people who are not connected in
Speaker 1: that way, but know who these people are and the
Speaker 1: smile comes to their face. I applaud Shannon Doherty for
Speaker 1: what she did. She is someone we're connected to through iHeart,
Speaker 1: and we know there are a lot of people at
Speaker 1: iHeart who worked for a long time, who were close
Speaker 1: to her, talked to her very often and helping her
Speaker 1: with her podcast. We're very sad today, Yeah, because you
Speaker 1: I'm sure they robes signed up knowing that this day
Speaker 1: would come while they were in the middle of working
Speaker 1: with her, and this day came, and that is and
Speaker 1: will forever be. When you lose somebody like that, be sad.
Speaker 1: But Jim Valvano, that we all go with now is
Speaker 1: you beat cancer by the way you live every day.
Speaker 1: And I don't. But she kicked cancer's ass, if you
Speaker 1: want to go with that definition.
Speaker 2: Yeah she did. And she has helped so many people
Speaker 2: along the way. She's raised awareness. She was excited about
Speaker 2: these new drugs. I just looked at her last Instagram
Speaker 2: message just a few weeks ago where she learned that
Speaker 2: her cancer had had morphed a little bit and she
Speaker 2: now had more treatment options. And that is what she
Speaker 2: was fighting for, that awareness, that funding, because the more options,
Speaker 2: the more drugs, the more availability, we can continue to
Speaker 2: have folks in stage four live longer, better lives. And
Speaker 2: so I know she was fighting for that, and I'm
Speaker 2: just in awe of her and just want to be
Speaker 2: grateful for the impact she had on the fight against
Speaker 2: breast cancer and what she did for so many women
Speaker 2: out there, And yeah, it is I know, I know.
Speaker 2: We don't want to have those reminders be the reason
Speaker 2: why we live differently. But yeah, any of any of
Speaker 2: what's happened in the last four days, really it's just
Speaker 2: another reminder that life is fragile. Life is something to
Speaker 2: be grateful for each and every day, even when it's
Speaker 2: messy and hot and humid and ugly and not the
Speaker 2: way you want. It's an opportunity to be kind and
Speaker 2: to love and to experience and to be grateful. And
Speaker 2: that's where I am today after all of the news
Speaker 2: from the United States here on vacation. But you know
Speaker 2: what we're gonna We're going to honor everything that's happened
Speaker 2: and continue to enjoy, but enjoy our lives. I hope
Speaker 2: everyone else gets to do the same.
Speaker 1: We will. Yeah, and I guess we've relocated to uh
Speaker 1: to Italy for now, so we are current residents, but
Speaker 1: we are trying to get back to the United States soon,
Speaker 1: so we will probably have another episode from.
Speaker 2: Here, probably a little more from here.
Speaker 1: Yes, from the inside, how you'd hold up you you said,
Speaker 1: it's not so bad. It's a little breeze coming through.
Speaker 2: It's not that humid though, that's my thing. It's not
Speaker 2: as it's not as humid as New York and I'll
Speaker 2: take it.
Speaker 1: Your hair is dope, by the way it's holding up.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, your hair doesn't do well in humidity.
Speaker 2: It does not. I have wavy, unmanageable.
Speaker 1: Hair, which no one has ever seen.
Speaker 2: Nope, I keep that to myself. Why I you know,
Speaker 2: wavy hair is not something that is television friendly, or
Speaker 2: so I've been told my entire life. So I've straightened
Speaker 2: my hair my entire life. Okay, I but now, but
Speaker 2: now I got some dope French braids because my boyfriend Dutch. Whoops,
Speaker 2: So those are Dutch braids versus French braids. Correct? And yes,
Speaker 2: because my boyfriend can braid hair soraid hair. It's pretty awesome.
Speaker 2: I might pose something later. I don't want to be
Speaker 2: judged on your braiding skills. You've got braiding skills.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, not because I didn't want to be judged.
Speaker 1: I just didn't want to see it as bragging.
Speaker 2: A joke.
Speaker 1: Folks, Look wherever you are, if you hear the sound
Speaker 1: of our voices, please be kind to somebody to day.
Speaker 1: Just take it easy to yourself, right God, and maybe
Speaker 1: even more so than anybody else. But you just give
Speaker 1: everybody just a little bit of a break, no matter
Speaker 1: how they might possibly treat you. Everybody's going through something
Speaker 1: and it's just we're all in a heap of shit
Speaker 1: right now. It feels like and we'll get through it
Speaker 1: like we always do right as a country. But it's
Speaker 1: just it's been a crappy few days. Yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of ways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in those are the days where you decide what
Speaker 2: you want and how you want to react to it.
Speaker 2: So I hope everybody can look at that with love
Speaker 2: and hopefully with yeah, hope, let's hope. Yeah, let's go
Speaker 2: with hope.
Speaker 1: Hope doesn't sell, and that's then that's shitty that the
Speaker 1: thing that sells is chaos, controversy, conflict. Yeah, those are
Speaker 1: the things that sell. I was, I swear I went
Speaker 1: to I remember this from twenty years ago. I went
Speaker 1: to a conference or something. Somebody spoke. So that's what
Speaker 1: the media thrives, conflicts, chaos.
Speaker 2: And contract If it bleeds, it leads, it's just it's okay.
Speaker 1: So we're selling hope is my wight wants to hear this? Well? Folks,
Speaker 1: you can keep following. Our official Instagram page for the
Speaker 1: show is at Amy and TJ Podcast, and we will
Speaker 1: keep sending our folks, maybe pictures from the trip, and
Speaker 1: maybe they'll post them there so you'll kind of keep
Speaker 1: up with us. Why are you laughing?
Speaker 2: No, I'm laughing because we haven't sent them anything, are
Speaker 2: we not? No, not a thing, not a thing. But
Speaker 2: we told them we would and then we didn't need photos, Okay,
Speaker 2: So Hannah, Emma shug We sorry, it's coming. Shout