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Speaker 1: I said happy birthday, and I didn't know Beam was.
Speaker 1: He was probably up watching something too. He's probably up
Speaker 1: playing games. Yeah, I just got finished playing game. Well,
Speaker 1: happy birthday, Chris. And speaking of playing games, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: do have to play a game, first game of the
Speaker 1: postseason wild Card weekend. We obviously know who the opponent
Speaker 1: is and we'll get into the Tampa's defense, which is
Speaker 1: Cowboys offense later in the second segment. But I wanted
Speaker 1: to start the show asking you guys about practice. We
Speaker 1: know that Mike McCarthy since the month month of December,
Speaker 1: he's talked about the difference in how he handles practice.
Speaker 1: After the game in Washington, he did mention in the
Speaker 1: in the press conference, he was like, well, I take
Speaker 1: all the blame. It's on me. I think we need
Speaker 1: to practice this better and prepare better during the week.
Speaker 1: So yeah, me thinking, we know how he's changed to
Speaker 1: where now sometimes they're not going full paths during practice
Speaker 1: or going through walkthroughs, or spending more time in the
Speaker 1: film room and in the rooms with each group of
Speaker 1: people just planning. Yeah and all that. Do you feel
Speaker 1: that the way that they've kind of changed the way
Speaker 1: in the practice in the month of December has actually
Speaker 1: hurt them in games? You know what? I think, to me,
Speaker 1: this is how I look at that. McCarthy likes to
Speaker 1: try and keep his teams as fresh as he can.
Speaker 1: That's important to him. At the end of the year.
Speaker 1: I think that the only team and I might be
Speaker 1: wrong about this because again I cover this team, but
Speaker 1: this team went through three game stretch in twelve days twice,
Speaker 1: didn't they with Thursday games, Thanksgiving games, you know, games
Speaker 1: on a Saturday game, a Sunday game. I think his
Speaker 1: schedule got really messed up for him late in the year,
Speaker 1: and I think that was something that he was trying
Speaker 1: his best to navigate. I'm one of those teams. I'm
Speaker 1: one of those guys though that and I understand this
Speaker 1: on when you're watching a game and the first thing
Speaker 1: comes to your mind is did they even practice this week?
Speaker 1: By the way, you know, some of the mistakes and things,
Speaker 1: and you're like, what, they're not working on this stuff?
Speaker 1: You know, I've had I've had guys around the league,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, tweet at me or text me
Speaker 1: and say that this team even practice, you know, and
Speaker 1: so yeah, they do. The problem is he's trying to
Speaker 1: manage the way the games have been falling for him.
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's a normal week to week
Speaker 1: to week that That's the one thing that these coaches
Speaker 1: and players, they get so used to routine, and when
Speaker 1: routine gets kind of messed up, it throws them off.
Speaker 1: And I'm not using as an excuse, but I just
Speaker 1: think they were a team that late in the year
Speaker 1: they dealt with some some scheduling challenges. I think we're
Speaker 1: the biggest thing. Yeah, And I we talked about it
Speaker 1: every year about you know, once you get to Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: the last month of the season, month and a half
Speaker 1: is just completely different with you know, even our schedule
Speaker 1: here like for this podcast, like we're all like we're
Speaker 1: like we're doing it right now, We're moving it around
Speaker 1: because you know, McCarthy's press conference has moved around a
Speaker 1: little bit, and we understand how this week is different,
Speaker 1: but it's all it's a lot of those. It's a
Speaker 1: couple of Thursday games, you got Monday games, you got
Speaker 1: Saturday games, you got Sunday night games. I mean, everything
Speaker 1: kind of changes. And I think that McCarthy will sacrifice
Speaker 1: practice so to make sure that his team is healthy
Speaker 1: and off their feet as much. And with everything, it comes,
Speaker 1: you know, with a price, and the price is is
Speaker 1: not practicing as much. And then I think sometimes it
Speaker 1: shows if you had to choose, like a percentage, how
Speaker 1: much is the difference. I'm like, how your week is
Speaker 1: reflected and how you play during a game. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he says it all the time, like the games are
Speaker 1: one on Wednesday Thursday. You know it's not one. I
Speaker 1: think I'm not missing, but yeah, depending like you know,
Speaker 1: those practices on Wednesday Thursday. I'm trying to get used to.
Speaker 1: For ten years, we all dealt with a Jason Garrett schedule.
Speaker 1: You know, it was very regimented. You knew exactly with McCarthy,
Speaker 1: you don't know, And like I say, I think there's
Speaker 1: you talk to people in the organization they say he
Speaker 1: the best thing he does is trying to keep the team.
Speaker 1: Not not the best thing, but one of the positive
Speaker 1: things about him is trying to keep the team healthy.
Speaker 1: That's coming from the medical people. I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: you talk to them like it Oxnard and stuff like, man,
Speaker 1: your team, what do you what you really like about
Speaker 1: Mike does a great job. He thinks about the players,
Speaker 1: he thinks about their health. He thinks about how we're
Speaker 1: going to go forward here. So yeah, I think that
Speaker 1: these practices is like when you when you start to
Speaker 1: install and put in stuff on, you know, on Wednesday Thursday,
Speaker 1: you know how you practice Fridays kind of like okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do some goal line stuff, finishing touch stuff.
Speaker 1: You know that you really have to focus on those
Speaker 1: Wednesdays and Thursdays. The things that these games come down to,
Speaker 1: you know, third down defense, you know, you know the
Speaker 1: third down offense. You know, those are the things that
Speaker 1: are now, you know, winning these football games. It's ability
Speaker 1: to stand the field, ability to get off the field
Speaker 1: if you if you have bad days on Wednesdays and Thursdays,
Speaker 1: that affects I remember watching practice as a scout, and
Speaker 1: and and we can do it too, because we've done
Speaker 1: it before training camp. So I'm not excluding you guys
Speaker 1: from this. But how many times have you ever seen
Speaker 1: coaches say repeat the play please now when you're repeating
Speaker 1: plays on a Wednesday or on a Thursday. And I
Speaker 1: remember it during the the Mike Nolan administration when we
Speaker 1: were here watching practice some there was a lot of
Speaker 1: the there were a lot of busts, Rob Ryan, there
Speaker 1: were busts during practice and you're like, coach, guys, that again, please, coach,
Speaker 1: can I see that again? But if that's happening during practice,
Speaker 1: it's likely to happen in the game. You know you're
Speaker 1: gonna make a call. I'man sure there was a I'm
Speaker 1: sure that Kellen Moore has made calls that. You know
Speaker 1: some of the interceptions like the screen the past that
Speaker 1: got in the Philadelphia game that got intercepted, you know
Speaker 1: every time the one to dacked through that when uh,
Speaker 1: you know Sweat went up and got the and got
Speaker 1: the ball that in practice, I'm sure they ran in
Speaker 1: a couple of times and it just kind of clicked
Speaker 1: along good and Tack McKinley didn't try and intercept the
Speaker 1: ball like you know, it didn't like extend and make
Speaker 1: a great catch. So now you're like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: we practiced this play all week with a defensive ends
Speaker 1: not going to make a brilliant play on me like that.
Speaker 1: So that's that's the issues we're running into practice. You
Speaker 1: can tell when a team is struggling getting I remember
Speaker 1: as a scout watching practice and going, we got no
Speaker 1: chance this week, just because I saw how many mistakes
Speaker 1: and coach, can I see that again play? You know,
Speaker 1: some could like Garrett would just power through it. You
Speaker 1: know you make it mistake, but other coaches will you know,
Speaker 1: I need to see that coach. My players don't understand
Speaker 1: what's going on here. And you know, the later it
Speaker 1: gets in the week, the more likely you are to
Speaker 1: have a mistake on a Sunday or a Monday, for sure. Well,
Speaker 1: yesterday they did practice, and when we spoke, we've been
Speaker 1: waiting to see Layton Hankins and then be odd ish, Yeah,
Speaker 1: is there any progress there on the field happening with
Speaker 1: those three guys. Well, McCarthy Usually we do this after
Speaker 1: McCarthy and we had to flip. So McCarthy will still
Speaker 1: talk later today. And because of the way the schedule is,
Speaker 1: they didn't have to do an official injury report, so
Speaker 1: we won't get one of those until later Today will
Speaker 1: be the first one of the week, like a Wednesday,
Speaker 1: since it is Thursday. So well, I don't really have
Speaker 1: the answers for you there officially, but I do think
Speaker 1: that Hankins and I guess be honest, is ready to go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're thinking so I will definitely and Hankinson Layton for sure,
Speaker 1: I think are gonna be. Yeah. I think Nick is
Speaker 1: absolutely right about that when you look at the injury
Speaker 1: to be oddish by the time they get him ready
Speaker 1: or he's starting to get it. I was told like,
Speaker 1: it's eighteen days that he's had now since the injury,
Speaker 1: the time off another week, another day. I mean, trainers
Speaker 1: look at this, and I've learned this over the years,
Speaker 1: been dealing with a lot of them. They don't look
Speaker 1: at days. They look at hours. Okay, now hours make
Speaker 1: up days, but every hour that they can steal to
Speaker 1: get a player ready, that's what they look at. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, if you ask him right now and say, hey,
Speaker 1: Jim Mauer playing on Monday, good for you? Goes you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: for injury, sure, because it's more hours that they have to.
Speaker 1: I'm not ready right nowt at eight, but I'll be
Speaker 1: ready on nine. Yeah, right out about nine, I'll be set.
Speaker 1: But the more hours, yeah, the more hours, because that's
Speaker 1: the you know, that's the Britt Brown on the chords
Speaker 1: out here, you know, that's the that's the opportunity to see.
Speaker 1: Like when you watch Beyotish, I'm sure when he's on
Speaker 1: the cord, what BRIT's trying to work with him on
Speaker 1: is the lateral stuff. You know, he's also has to
Speaker 1: work with him on. You know, the one thing with
Speaker 1: a high ankle sprain that they'll tell you with offensive
Speaker 1: lineman is when and especially when when we're talking about
Speaker 1: a guy like Vita Vea and everybody out there that
Speaker 1: watches our podcast know when you talk Tampa Bay, they
Speaker 1: think of this this mammoth Winnebago in the middle of
Speaker 1: the defense that doesn't move. You know that he just
Speaker 1: you know, you fight him all day and that's and
Speaker 1: that's and that's the problem that you run into a
Speaker 1: Keen Knicks is another one of those guys. You run
Speaker 1: into those big bodies. And so if you're if you're
Speaker 1: if you're just trying to sit down and just take
Speaker 1: these guys on. The pressure you put on that ankle
Speaker 1: is tremendous. So BRIT's trying his best. I'm sure to
Speaker 1: get Beyotish's ability to handle the pain of sitting on it.
Speaker 1: And then also though, they're gonna have to run the
Speaker 1: football and that means lateral and that means him pushing
Speaker 1: off and then getting up on these linebackers and things
Speaker 1: like that. But that, you know, eighteen days since, so
Speaker 1: that that's that's they're looking at as a positive right now.
Speaker 1: Think about it, if you hurt your ankle on us
Speaker 1: on a Sunday morning at ten am and you're like, hey,
Speaker 1: I gotta go just you know, I gotta go play
Speaker 1: here in a couple of hours, or I gotta wait
Speaker 1: till you know, Monday night, and completely different. And so
Speaker 1: like you said, Thursday, Thursday game against the Titans, that's
Speaker 1: two weeks today, Yeah, four more days and till till
Speaker 1: Monday nights. Yeah, I mean everyone's kind of complaining. I
Speaker 1: think it's ridiculous that the league does a Monday night
Speaker 1: game for for pres for a playoff game. But I'm
Speaker 1: sure in this particular case in the in the Bucks
Speaker 1: are probably the same way. They probably got some guys
Speaker 1: that they they you know, a few extra hours are helping. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that. I'm like, because it is
Speaker 1: unfair having a Monday night game when you're talking about
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But when you look at guys you're really
Speaker 1: really needing to come back, that even that one extra
Speaker 1: day can do a lot. You'll hear it more next
Speaker 1: week when whoever it is Tampa or Dallas when they
Speaker 1: go play if they go play cross country to San Francisco,
Speaker 1: who had a who played on Saturday and has two
Speaker 1: extra days for you and you really didn't do anything
Speaker 1: starting doing anything until Tuesday morning. See, that's when it'll
Speaker 1: it'll be. That's what the complaints. Yeah, the league, the
Speaker 1: league will tell you that, you know, just go play.
Speaker 1: But the Rams won a Super Bowl. Go on this
Speaker 1: route last year, same thing. Yeah, they did the same
Speaker 1: thing playing on a Monday night against Arizona and then
Speaker 1: went and did I think I have that right? And
Speaker 1: they'll also say, well, wait a minute, Tennessee got a
Speaker 1: ton arrest, Jacksonville played on a short week that Jacksonville
Speaker 1: played on a Sunday, then played on the Saturday night
Speaker 1: and won that game. So the league really doesn't have
Speaker 1: any care about what you think. I mean, you could,
Speaker 1: you could complain about it. But the thing about it
Speaker 1: is the extra day. If you're a Cowboy fan, on
Speaker 1: the front end, it helps you for this game. On
Speaker 1: the back end, you know, probably means you're gonna play
Speaker 1: late on Sunday. If if you had to really either
Speaker 1: that or you know, they wouldn't make you play Saturday night.
Speaker 1: I don't think or anything like that. Yeah, you're probably
Speaker 1: gonna play late Sunday afternoon. I would be my guest
Speaker 1: if you if you win this game, they'll get to
Speaker 1: probably put you late Sundays. What my guests would be
Speaker 1: and if not fishing, Yeah, fishing, basketball and average games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly when I saw Yeah, I saw the Pelicans play
Speaker 1: the other day. You went to the maps. I go
Speaker 1: to the maps. I like the maps. I like the
Speaker 1: maps games. They're fun. They got in who's their second
Speaker 1: best player? Uh? Depends some nights on the night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Spencer did what He's probably their second best player right now.
Speaker 1: Mavericks talk care on playoff week. Yeah, okay, we're not
Speaker 1: We're not there though yet. I'm not. I still I
Speaker 1: still think, I mean, I think this is It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a great, really great game. I really think it's
Speaker 1: I think so. I think the Cowboys are gonna play
Speaker 1: a really great game, but I think Tampa will too.
Speaker 1: I'm I think this is gonna be a good football game.
Speaker 1: I believe that. I think that Brady, as great as
Speaker 1: he is, I do think he'll bring out the best
Speaker 1: in his players. They haven't had a great season. That
Speaker 1: they're challenged obviously, but I think that they're going to
Speaker 1: bring it. I don't think they're as talented as the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: but I think that they'll play a great game. And
Speaker 1: that's why I think it'll be a fun one. The
Speaker 1: one thing is why you have this quarterback is you're
Speaker 1: right that Dallas is a better team. Yeah, the quarterback
Speaker 1: is what makes you know. You look across the field
Speaker 1: and he comes running out and he does his Tom
Speaker 1: Brady yelled to the crowd and now and then you realize,
Speaker 1: oh damn, we're about to play this guy. You know
Speaker 1: that's sometimes psychologically when you see that, you just it
Speaker 1: freaks you out. And hopefully Dallas has done enough. They
Speaker 1: played him now the last couple of times opened the
Speaker 1: season with him both times, so it's you know you've opened,
Speaker 1: you've played there, and you've played you know, you played
Speaker 1: on a nighttime game too. You know when you went there,
Speaker 1: you were a Thursday night game, and so after a
Speaker 1: super Bowl and so that height of that opened in
Speaker 1: the season. There maybe not a lot of guys on
Speaker 1: this team that were there, but some do remember that,
Speaker 1: and so you have to be at least it's not
Speaker 1: like you're playing Tom Brady for the first time in
Speaker 1: like five years. You're playing you've seen him the last
Speaker 1: couple of years, and so you kind of know what
Speaker 1: you're up against. You guys know, I know we have
Speaker 1: to go and break but real quick, you guys know,
Speaker 1: I like to be like receptive of whatever vibe is
Speaker 1: happening in the environment and just like feeling that energy.
Speaker 1: And it's weird this week because I don't know how
Speaker 1: to interpret or how to feel about how he feels
Speaker 1: in the building, because it doesn't feel like a playoff week,
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't feel like we're about to go play
Speaker 1: Tampa Tom Brady in the first week of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And that's not to say that people are just walking
Speaker 1: around not carried or just tuned out, completely checked out
Speaker 1: from the season. No it's it's just I guess because
Speaker 1: of how things turned out and how the year ended, well,
Speaker 1: the season with Washington, it just changed the whole mood
Speaker 1: and roment. I think twenty six or twenty seven years
Speaker 1: will do that to you. And I think there's I
Speaker 1: think there's there's that, there's that unknown now, there's that
Speaker 1: nobody wants to get their heartbroken again. Nobody wants to
Speaker 1: commit and maybe not in the building. I know from
Speaker 1: working on one Hi five three the fan and we
Speaker 1: all hear on Dallas Cowboys dot com deal, you know,
Speaker 1: around the world one five three, you know we have
Speaker 1: the reach and stuff too. But you get the feeling
Speaker 1: that that fans are just they're they're they're kind of
Speaker 1: expecting the worst, and it's like, you know, prude to us.
Speaker 1: Go out and win a game, go out and beat
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, you know, go to San Francisco and win it.
Speaker 1: You know, That's why I think fans are. They want
Speaker 1: to they want to believe, but they also don't want
Speaker 1: to get their their hopes up and then get crushed.
Speaker 1: And then it becomes and then the postgame show becomes
Speaker 1: told you told you this team twelve wins being the
Speaker 1: playoffs one and done. You know, I think people are
Speaker 1: just really suppressing their real feelings because they feel like
Speaker 1: that they're probably gonna get disappointed, and you know, the
Speaker 1: team's job and Mike McCarthy, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones trying
Speaker 1: to go out and win these playoff games and get
Speaker 1: the fan base once again believing that, you know what,
Speaker 1: it's not a one and done team and this team
Speaker 1: can do some stuff in the playoffs. And that's unfair,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, I mean, it's unfair to the players,
Speaker 1: but but that's the reality. That's way they get paired
Speaker 1: compared to some twenty years ago. Yeah, I mean they
Speaker 1: you're right, I mean, they didn't do this. I mean
Speaker 1: they they haven't lost twenty five or twenty seven years
Speaker 1: since the Super Bowl. Uh, most of them aren't even
Speaker 1: that old. But but that's the way that it is.
Speaker 1: And there is a lot of turnover in this league.
Speaker 1: Like you said a couple of years ago against Stampa,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's probably thirty percent of the roster that
Speaker 1: wasn't even at that game. But but that's that's the
Speaker 1: way it is. That's that's what what the Cowboys have created.
Speaker 1: You wear the same uniforms, you wear the same helmet,
Speaker 1: wear the same star. It is that, it is the
Speaker 1: whole tradition. It's the history of the team. And these
Speaker 1: fans that have been, you know, through everything, they're they're
Speaker 1: frustrated and if they don't win, they don't go to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. We're gonna have the numbers. Is gonna
Speaker 1: be twenty seven, twenty seven years in a row since
Speaker 1: that's happened, and that's that's unfair to the players, but
Speaker 1: it is. That's the reality. That's it, and so you
Speaker 1: know that's but if they go and win, you know,
Speaker 1: no one will care about that, and it'll I think,
Speaker 1: I think you'll you'll feel that excitement that we think
Speaker 1: that we're missing. I bet, I bet it'll come too.
Speaker 1: It's not just the way the game ended. It's also
Speaker 1: you know what day is it. It's like, wells Thursday,
Speaker 1: but it's not. It's Wednesday, and you know that kind
Speaker 1: of messes with you a little bit too routine. And
Speaker 1: now we're leaving on Sunday and all that. Once you
Speaker 1: start getting there, I think when the players will get
Speaker 1: there and then the Monday comes and then people here
Speaker 1: at the office, so they'll be they'll be ready to go.
Speaker 1: We're we're still we're still a few days away. You
Speaker 1: still mourning that game, but things will quickly change. Let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and take this real quick. The sad thing
Speaker 1: about it, though, is when it's over, you will feel
Speaker 1: a thud. Yeah, we felt that in our lives, you
Speaker 1: know you mean, and hopefully hopefully that you The thing
Speaker 1: you want to avoid is the thud because it's like
Speaker 1: you're going one hundred and eighty five miles an hour
Speaker 1: and then you hit the wall and you stop, and
Speaker 1: that's what being bounced is like. And I think people
Speaker 1: just don't want to feel that. Yeah, you really don't
Speaker 1: want to feel that, especially especially this early and this
Speaker 1: early in the playoffs. Every you know, Minnesota messed everybody up. Yea,
Speaker 1: and in Minnesota and this Washington game, the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: not as bad as what they showed in Washington. They're
Speaker 1: not as good as what they showed in Minnesota. They're
Speaker 1: somewhere in the middle, and hopefully it's good enough to
Speaker 1: beat the Bucks. Well, we'll see. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: take our first break. When we come back, we're going
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Speaker 1: behind you? Brian Nate MP I want to hit Nate's
Speaker 1: gonna want to hear this about because we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about the uh, the Tampa Bay defense. I'm interested to
Speaker 1: see how he wants to block some of these guys
Speaker 1: An open chair. You know, you go perfect, n Nature.
Speaker 1: Nate has a really nice, expensive suit he just threw
Speaker 1: on the ground like nothing. He has it in a
Speaker 1: nice case and he just you know, basically now he's
Speaker 1: got the wheel of the chair on top of it.
Speaker 1: So hang on, Nate, say hello, everybod I'm gonna fix
Speaker 1: your suit for you. Okay, hold on? How everyone doing? Uh?
Speaker 1: I'm used to Derek Leader that I heard of what like? Whoa?
Speaker 1: It's a different deal today, you know. Oh yeah, Derek's
Speaker 1: on that. He's doing some interviews today. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: we had Woody last night and you didn't show up, Sir,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I don't I told you I was,
Speaker 1: but I passed it off to Mickey. How did that go? Oh? Great?
Speaker 1: Oh it was man did a great job. Kevin Gray.
Speaker 1: How you doing, young lady? Doing great? Yes, Kevin Gray's
Speaker 1: a good teammate in mind at one oh five three,
Speaker 1: You guys did a good job there. Anytime you get
Speaker 1: he did a great job. What are you doing some
Speaker 1: stories now? He's you know, in your Hall of Fame finalists.
Speaker 1: You know you're kind of making some rounds a little bit.
Speaker 1: You're gonna see him there a little bit more. That's
Speaker 1: great though he deserves it well. Boil on the show,
Speaker 1: we're about to start talking tampas defense offense. Yeah. First
Speaker 1: of all, I would take my maybe five or six
Speaker 1: of my best plays that has been very successful during
Speaker 1: the year, you know, especially teams that we've had struggled against.
Speaker 1: What were some of the runs that we had and uh,
Speaker 1: and I would try to incorporate them. But what I
Speaker 1: need to know first and foremost is who is my
Speaker 1: starting lineup? You know, is Tyler be Adish Is he
Speaker 1: gonna be back? And then Connor mcgovernor can go back home,
Speaker 1: and uh, Tyler Smith can go back home. These guys
Speaker 1: have struggled. Who has been your biggest concern on the
Speaker 1: line after the kind of shuffling to happen after the injury, Uh,
Speaker 1: after I wondered about the center because I'm a firm
Speaker 1: believer that if you're strong in the middle and you're
Speaker 1: strong on your left side, you can you can you
Speaker 1: can help everything else. And that that was my big concern.
Speaker 1: I was one of the guys that was fighting for
Speaker 1: beardist and economical government at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 1: I believe that you should you know, and they did it.
Speaker 1: They eventually to say, hey, let's just leave these two
Speaker 1: guys alone and quit trying to replace them and let
Speaker 1: them get good. I think that average to good players
Speaker 1: with time and good coaching can be solid NFL players.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that you have to draft in the
Speaker 1: first round top flight lineman, but when you do get one,
Speaker 1: you don't mess around with him. And I was your
Speaker 1: left tackle, you'd let them stay there. Yeah. I was
Speaker 1: going to ask you the state, and we're blessed with
Speaker 1: your presence here. I know I am, because I have
Speaker 1: this question for you, and I meant to text it
Speaker 1: to you or call you. What's going on on the
Speaker 1: right side with Martin and Smith is there? It seems
Speaker 1: to be a little disconnect about the thing that Still
Speaker 1: was able to do. Is Martin had to feel for
Speaker 1: how Still what's going to fit and how they were
Speaker 1: going to the combo blocks and things like that. Is
Speaker 1: that something that like, you got two Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: guys playing on that side. Is it really that difficult
Speaker 1: for those two to work together like that? We're considering
Speaker 1: how much that Martin has worked with Still this year,
Speaker 1: your your your right tackle has lost a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not the great athlete that he wants was. He
Speaker 1: still has the determination. You can see how he's set
Speaker 1: with the authority and everything. But it's once you set,
Speaker 1: it's got you gotta fight after that, and and and
Speaker 1: he wants to, but he doesn't. He doesn't have it.
Speaker 1: He's still he's he's an average right tackle now and
Speaker 1: a lot of the things he does he kind of
Speaker 1: finishing like from like he's still on the left side, right,
Speaker 1: you know. So, uh, but that's that's what he's helping
Speaker 1: the team. Like I said, he's not a he's not
Speaker 1: a shell of himself like I hear some people say,
Speaker 1: but he's not what we used to see in and
Speaker 1: it's gonna take some time. But we don't have time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't have time. Yeah, yeah, it's now. So what
Speaker 1: coach fieldman has to do and coach the offensive coordina,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to find out what's your five or
Speaker 1: six best plays and just run a lot of different
Speaker 1: formations making sure that you execute these five or six plays.
Speaker 1: You don't need a pleasure of plays going against this defense.
Speaker 1: You I would almost want them to stay base so
Speaker 1: I can see what they're doing, because if they don't
Speaker 1: stay base and they start blitzing all over the place.
Speaker 1: I'm to about run blitzes, not pass bliss, I'm about
Speaker 1: run blitzes. That's gonna be hard for our offensive line.
Speaker 1: If if be artist, you don't get back to be
Speaker 1: able to adjust to be artists you get back. I
Speaker 1: feel a little bit more confident, you know, because now
Speaker 1: you're just dealing with Tyron, and Tyrone is savvy enough
Speaker 1: to figure it out, and he can do just enough
Speaker 1: to get by. But if you got to everybody slide
Speaker 1: down one space, and you got Peterson out there, and
Speaker 1: you got two weekends when your book is you can't
Speaker 1: figure it out. Yeah, you know, Brian, we talked about
Speaker 1: um having the extra night, you know, extra hours on
Speaker 1: Monday night for for Beotish to get back and play.
Speaker 1: But it's also important. We talked about it too, about Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the practice if they're not if he's not in there practicing,
Speaker 1: because then then it's all these other shuffling going on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think it'll be clear to see if
Speaker 1: they have like like a Dakota Shepley or somebody in
Speaker 1: their backup center as the center for practice, then that
Speaker 1: that would let me think that Beodish would be back,
Speaker 1: because if not, then you're shuffling all these other guys around.
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see kind of these next
Speaker 1: couple days, even when we get to watch practice, how
Speaker 1: they're lining up. Yeah, that's the thing about it. I
Speaker 1: think that to me, it's you know, it's it's difficult.
Speaker 1: You would hope that Beodish would be able to get
Speaker 1: some reps, you know, you would hope that he would
Speaker 1: be able to get out there and have some opportunity.
Speaker 1: You know, they they need to, like Nate's talking, I
Speaker 1: think they need to incorporate him back as quickly. It
Speaker 1: just move every if they can move everybody back to
Speaker 1: where they were and yels, Yeah, I really like what
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Okay, when when you look at Tampa
Speaker 1: and you're dealing with guys like Vita Vea and a
Speaker 1: Keem Knicks okay, and these linebackers with David and then White,
Speaker 1: the two linebackers, Hey, it's getting scared. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: that's where the problem I have, Nate, is that I
Speaker 1: want to try and run the football. I want to
Speaker 1: I want to do that, but now I have to
Speaker 1: deal with those two big inside techniques and then I
Speaker 1: have to get somebody up on the linebacker? Where where?
Speaker 1: Where would you play this? Is it secure the down guys?
Speaker 1: Because that's why I was watching San Francisco do when
Speaker 1: they ran the ball with McCaffrey earlier in this well
Speaker 1: the middle of the year, and they were hitting it quick,
Speaker 1: but they were doubling. They were doubling the down guys.
Speaker 1: And then and then McCaffrey was good enough to make
Speaker 1: the linebackers miss. Is that more of a Tony powered
Speaker 1: thing than it was? Or is it because shot? Don't
Speaker 1: be shy. That is what I'm trying to tell people
Speaker 1: is if you're about winning, it's about personnel. Take some
Speaker 1: of them plays that San Francisco didn't let Tony make
Speaker 1: people miss. Yeah, don't worry about Zeke. It'll be He'll
Speaker 1: have his plays. He'll have his plays. But this is
Speaker 1: about winning. And I'm gonna get off there because I
Speaker 1: gotta go. Let me. Let me say this. I heard
Speaker 1: a young lady, miss miss Haley, asks a good question.
Speaker 1: Are we're gonna try to get ga Michael Gallup more involved?
Speaker 1: This is not the regular season. I need for CD LAMB,
Speaker 1: for Dalton shows and for this this t Y guy.
Speaker 1: I need for them to have ninety percent of the passes,
Speaker 1: and with Tony coming out of the backfield, I need
Speaker 1: for those guys to have ninety percent of them. If
Speaker 1: Gallup is a part of it, so be it. If
Speaker 1: eighty five is a part of it, so be it.
Speaker 1: But these are not the guys. Goal with what you know,
Speaker 1: goal with the guys that are proven. And that's why
Speaker 1: I won't be iddish back. That's why I want things
Speaker 1: back to normal. Now, Tony, we've nursed you and Zeke,
Speaker 1: but I need Tony to get seventy five percent of
Speaker 1: the offensive snaps from the running back position because he
Speaker 1: could make people miss. Yeah. I have a great a Nate,
Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you. I will I will say this
Speaker 1: though as name walking off, but I will say that
Speaker 1: that they they're gonna have to do some improvement improvement
Speaker 1: there in the ring game, because I know you watched
Speaker 1: the first game. Yeah yeah, and it was in Zeke
Speaker 1: average five yards to carry there and it was Poler
Speaker 1: that kind of struggled. Are they Has it changed that much?
Speaker 1: I think to me, I think that Nate's absolutely right
Speaker 1: about this. Though. You find your five or six players
Speaker 1: that you can hang your hat on and and and
Speaker 1: work from there and then try to The thing I
Speaker 1: noticed about Zeke running the ball the ball was is
Speaker 1: a lot quicker, you know. I mean Zeke has not.
Speaker 1: When Zeke was a little banged up, it wasn't as quick.
Speaker 1: But now I kind of feel like, though, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to You're gonna have to find a way. And
Speaker 1: and I think it's about the timely runs. I know
Speaker 1: everybody loses their mind on the first down run because
Speaker 1: then it turns into second and nine or second and ten,
Speaker 1: you know, and everybody's I've said this before. I think
Speaker 1: it's when you It's when you run when you're supposed
Speaker 1: to pass, and pass when you're supposed to run. And
Speaker 1: I think Dallas has got to find that. When you
Speaker 1: play the Bucks, I think it's a struggle to have
Speaker 1: to kind of control their inside guys. I just think
Speaker 1: it is. I think it's Vita Vea and Hicks. This
Speaker 1: teams like six and one when those two play together,
Speaker 1: when they don't you get you get my drift. They
Speaker 1: don't win games, So you got to find ways. But
Speaker 1: I think I think there has to be some quickness
Speaker 1: to this game, and to me, that's where I think Pollard. Now,
Speaker 1: Pollard has struggled against teams with big friend unts. Some
Speaker 1: of his worst games running the ball against the Commanders.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys didn't run the ball at all against the Commanders.
Speaker 1: But if you look at Pollard bow times, terrible games
Speaker 1: for him, you know, and maybe it's maybe it's like
Speaker 1: if you, like I was talking about with Nate, secure
Speaker 1: down guys and then let him hit it. But maybe
Speaker 1: you work more with him on the perimeter, more with
Speaker 1: Zeke inside. They just haven't had the running lanes that
Speaker 1: they had earlier the year. Wear the ball and that.
Speaker 1: But against Tampa there were a couple of times where
Speaker 1: they pressed it hard and then and then Zeke was
Speaker 1: able to cut it back and it's a four or
Speaker 1: five six yard game. Man, we would take that all
Speaker 1: day if we're if every time they're impiling, and it's
Speaker 1: and it's you know, instead of it's second in, it's
Speaker 1: second in five and you know Zeke's got a first
Speaker 1: down because you know he's getting four or five yards
Speaker 1: a shot. I think that's where that's I gotta try.
Speaker 1: I can't just I can't abandon the running game like
Speaker 1: I did the first time. You played there a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. I just don't think you could do that,
Speaker 1: you know. Um. One of the things that when he
Speaker 1: went into the offseason with Kellen Moore, Um, it was like, hey,
Speaker 1: he's got to get CD involved, He's got to figure
Speaker 1: it out how to get the ball to CD. He's
Speaker 1: got to figure out how to get the ball to Pollard.
Speaker 1: And he's done that. He's done that this hit and
Speaker 1: so you talk about what the focus is a little bit.
Speaker 1: It took It took a little bit there. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it took four years, but they figured out well,
Speaker 1: I mean this season, yeah, and then first game. I
Speaker 1: mean neither one of them had a great game against Tampa,
Speaker 1: no one did. But but um, you do wonder about
Speaker 1: the focus of you know, what the focus is this weekend.
Speaker 1: Also we didn't mention this earlier in the show, but
Speaker 1: you know, you got you got teams at least one
Speaker 1: calling to to speak with him. Um, the Panthers are,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to seek permission and they to get
Speaker 1: to interview him as their next head coach. So I
Speaker 1: always wonder that during the week you know, how do
Speaker 1: you balance the two there? I mean, this is a
Speaker 1: huge game obviously, and and Kellen Moore is going to
Speaker 1: do his very best, but he's also well, we'll getting
Speaker 1: to that. I had that for the last segment. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: then we'll talk about that then. But this for preparation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you think that that affects his preparation. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that him and Dan Quinn anytime. You know, because now
Speaker 1: in the back of your mind, you're starting to get
Speaker 1: ready for interviews. At least these guys have interviewed before,
Speaker 1: so they have an idea what they're up against. You know,
Speaker 1: you use it. If it's your first interview, then you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta do this, I gotta do this, I gotta
Speaker 1: have this ready and all that, I have a staff
Speaker 1: list ready, I gotta you know, there's so many things
Speaker 1: that kind of take away the fact that they've already
Speaker 1: done it and they kind of know what works and
Speaker 1: what doesn't work. I think they'll be better prepared for
Speaker 1: getting the team ready this week. It's a really delicate
Speaker 1: situation you have to deal with because when they're doors closed,
Speaker 1: you're thinking that they're probably getting ready for an interview,
Speaker 1: when you want to believe they're getting ready for a game.
Speaker 1: You know, that that's that's just reality, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean you cannot focus. You cannot focus on you know,
Speaker 1: like the task on hand when you have something maybe
Speaker 1: even majorly in your life, a life changing move or
Speaker 1: an interview, your your hope, you're focusing. But we're human. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not that. No, And anyone that says, oh, well,
Speaker 1: he should be focused in the playoff, I'm not even
Speaker 1: entertained that it does be. Yes, if it was you,
Speaker 1: you would do it too. I mean that's like you said,
Speaker 1: it's major, so you and there are very very few
Speaker 1: opportunities that come up every year, so you gotta, I mean,
Speaker 1: look out for yourself. I think your window opens and
Speaker 1: closes too, right, Like you know, it's hard to think
Speaker 1: that it'll open back again real quick though, If I
Speaker 1: could just say this, we've talked about Vita via a
Speaker 1: Keem Hicks inside. That's going to be tough. The linebackers
Speaker 1: will be tough to block. They're banged up in the
Speaker 1: secondary with Mike Edwards is banged up, Logan Ryan's banged
Speaker 1: up and Carlton Davis checked the injury report today to
Speaker 1: see what happens with those guys there. I think they're
Speaker 1: one of their best defensive players in the secondaries, Antoine Winfield.
Speaker 1: He's the guy that intercepted Dak in the game. Kind
Speaker 1: of a guy that plays around the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: you know, is always going to be in an area
Speaker 1: to tie. You have to watch him on the turnover stuff.
Speaker 1: He's just like his dad, punches the ball loose, you know,
Speaker 1: gets in the right you know, area to make plays
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. It's a good defense. The defense
Speaker 1: has carried them in a lot of games this year.
Speaker 1: They don't score a lot of points. These guys don't
Speaker 1: give up a lot of points either. Though. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a tough one, but a fun one. YEA. Let's
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Speaker 1: that Brian threw in quite a few names in their
Speaker 1: from the defense. In the secondary, wanted to ask you
Speaker 1: nick Uh specific matchups. Who are you mostly concerned for me.
Speaker 1: I mean it's got to be right there at the middle,
Speaker 1: I mean, be Ata Vea and then whoever is your center.
Speaker 1: I mean, because when it was Beoddish, I believe two
Speaker 1: years ago when he played, I mean he was getting
Speaker 1: thrown around pretty good up there, to the point where
Speaker 1: they didn't even as Brian talked about two years ago,
Speaker 1: they didn't even mess with the middle. They everything was
Speaker 1: more outside running him and it worked. I mean, they
Speaker 1: moved the ball. They I think over four hundred and
Speaker 1: five hundred yards of offense, scored twenty nine points. I mean,
Speaker 1: nearly won the game. But but I mean it's got
Speaker 1: to be balanced because they also got down in the
Speaker 1: red zone and didn't score. They had to go wide
Speaker 1: and jar and missed the blocks. He got tackled. That
Speaker 1: was a huge play in the game. So they've got
Speaker 1: to be able to kind of control the middle and
Speaker 1: they can't be intimidated there. And I think it starts
Speaker 1: with Bava in the center. Yeah, I think this game
Speaker 1: is going to come down to how well in the
Speaker 1: secondary can you just can you prevent the big place
Speaker 1: they they don't run the ball statistically, I think they're
Speaker 1: going to try run the ball on you, because they
Speaker 1: had success on him, the turnovers, the turnovers. Though they
Speaker 1: had him in the last they had two games they
Speaker 1: had back to back games, they had seven turnovers, had
Speaker 1: five against the Bengals and two against It was two
Speaker 1: and but it was it was San Francisco and the
Speaker 1: and the Bengals games were just they've had some turnover
Speaker 1: Early in the year, they did they weren't turning the
Speaker 1: ball over. Now they've had some turnovers, but they had
Speaker 1: They've had a couple of games that were alarming with
Speaker 1: the turnovers. The Cincinnati game, since I was down seventeen
Speaker 1: nothing at half, it looked like to me that Tampa
Speaker 1: was going to cruise and win and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden interception, muff, fake punt, uh, Tom Brady fumble.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady fumble had four They had four turnovers in
Speaker 1: like eleven place is what it was. It was crazy
Speaker 1: how they how that just fell apart for him. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a it's something they've dealt with the thing with
Speaker 1: Brady around when you get around him in the pocket,
Speaker 1: he's put the ball on the ground, you know, like
Speaker 1: people have punched the ball out on him. You know,
Speaker 1: he doesn't move all that great, so but to me,
Speaker 1: but their secondary can their secondary can of get the
Speaker 1: fans on the ball. Yeah, they're gonna if you if
Speaker 1: you're well, they prove that too. They mean you they had,
Speaker 1: you know with Dak in that game. But the thing
Speaker 1: about it is, to me, this game is going to
Speaker 1: come down to their big plays, and you're big plays.
Speaker 1: Dallas has struggled to eliminate big plays, so huge chunk plays, screens,
Speaker 1: you know, the big play down the sidelines. I mean
Speaker 1: that that's something that you and you know they're gonna
Speaker 1: they're gonna do that to you. You know, Dallas is
Speaker 1: playing well in this game, it's going to be They're
Speaker 1: not going to be given up the chunk plays. That's
Speaker 1: the thing I think. And I think it's going to
Speaker 1: happen in the secondary. Who knows what's going to happen
Speaker 1: at left corner? You know, is this Xavier Rhodes? I mean,
Speaker 1: do they trust right? You know, there's just so many
Speaker 1: unknowns right now, and it's a shame you're going into
Speaker 1: this game with that kind of unknown Well, since we're
Speaker 1: running out of time, we'll leave the coaching and the
Speaker 1: fan question for tomorrow. But to end the show, I
Speaker 1: did want to ask one question that I kind of
Speaker 1: saw repeatedly, people asking should Dak Prescott and how Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore decides to manage the offense. Should they focus more
Speaker 1: on just short passes rather than trying to be that
Speaker 1: aggressive throwing deep down the field. I don't think that
Speaker 1: they have the receivers that you could just do that.
Speaker 1: I really don't. I mean, I think CD has been
Speaker 1: shifty and he could break some tackles, but Gallop and
Speaker 1: Noah Brown and t Y Hilton, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: they're kind of more vertical players. They're not these big
Speaker 1: guys that just catch the balls they get off me
Speaker 1: and may so you can do it some, but I
Speaker 1: don't think you can make your living with those kind
Speaker 1: of receivers because I don't think that they're built that way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the problem with Dak is he's got that never die
Speaker 1: attitude and he is the thing that hurts Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: the most. You know, you say, you have to live
Speaker 1: with his decisions in a game. Some days you're living great,
Speaker 1: in other days you're just you're sitting on the curb,
Speaker 1: you know, And and that's the problem with this. You mean,
Speaker 1: you don't know. You don't know which guy you're gonna get.
Speaker 1: You might get the guy that looks brilliant throwing the
Speaker 1: football like he did against Philadelphia. You know, Dallas got
Speaker 1: four turnovers in that game and and want it. I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna have to have a similar type game.
Speaker 1: I think Dak is going to have to have the ability.
Speaker 1: He can't throw that he can't throw the killer turnover
Speaker 1: to He just can't. But history tells you that he
Speaker 1: is and and that's and that's something you just when
Speaker 1: is that going to happen in the game. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't need it to happen at the end when
Speaker 1: you're trying to drive or something. You don't need a
Speaker 1: catastrophic mistake like they had in the San Francisco game
Speaker 1: where they're driving the ball in all cinema, a quarterback
Speaker 1: draw and they run out of time. You know, they
Speaker 1: have to avoid those types of plays, but they also
Speaker 1: have to avoid you know, his his uh, you know,
Speaker 1: willingness to try and create something. You know that's you know,
Speaker 1: there's a time and a place, and in a playoff game,
Speaker 1: you get punished when you make mistakes like that. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: all right, tomorrow we'll get into predictions and see what
Speaker 1: we got for this Monday night game. That is it
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