1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Welcome. It is a Verdict with Ted Cruz Weekend Review. 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson with you, and these are the big stories 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: that you may have missed that we talked about this week. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: The number one story we're going to start with today 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: deals with election interference. And if you put Donald Trump 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: in a courtroom on purpose on a day like for example, 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Super Tuesday, so we can't campaign, is that not the 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: definition of election? Heert interference? Also story number two ray Epps. 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: You've heard the name, Well, he got in dieted this 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: week sort of. In fact, it was almost a joke. 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: So how did ray Epps get away with January the sixth? 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: And why have they been protecting him at the FBI 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: and the DOJ. We'll explain that. And finally, Joe Biden's 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: not getting along very well with Democratic mayors across the 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: country who are starting to turn on him on illegal immigration. 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: So what does this mean for getting a deal done 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: with Mayor Adams in New York. We'll have that for 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: you as well. It is the Weekend Review with Ted 19 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: Cruz and it starts right now. Judges getting involved in 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: a way that I think is pretty clear it to 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: election interference. We've seen court dates that have come out 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: now for Donald Trump, with all these different indictments in 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: different states, that could be like the days before Super Tuesday, 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: when any normal canate would be on the campaign trail. 25 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: You just mentioned why you guys didn't do secret service. 26 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: That's how important is to be fast and right to 27 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: be campaigning. We're seeing two things now that seem to 28 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: be marking the calendar. One, you could throw this guy 29 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: into courtroom. 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: During dates when he desperately needs to be out campaigning, 31 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: taking away his ability to have a fair election against 32 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: Joe Biden or whoever it may be. And two, now 33 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: you may take away the president former presidents. It's America 34 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: and the leading cannate for the Republican Party's voice to 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: talk about the accusations against him from the leftists and 36 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: these people, these DA's are trying to lock him up 37 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: by putting a gag order on what he can say. 38 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: This seems on American it seems Banana Republic. Ask. 39 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: I think it's disgusting political POI here, Yet, that's what 40 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: we're really talking about now, is that real possibility? 41 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: Look, you're exactly right. 42 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: We have talked at length on this podcast about how 43 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 4: the multiple indictments against Donald Trump are election interference. Democrats 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 4: have convinced themselves that Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler, and 45 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 4: because they believe he's Hitler, anything, anything is justified to 46 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 4: stop him. The ends justify the means, and they're willing 47 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 4: to corrupt the legal process to turn the Department of 48 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: Justice into a political weapon. They're willing to do everything 49 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 4: they can to stop the voters from daring to make 50 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 4: a decision to vote in the way these angry partisan 51 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 4: Democrats don't want the voters to vote. We've gone over 52 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 4: two hundred years of our nation's history. We've never indicted 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 4: a president or a former president, or a major candidate 54 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: for president. In the last six months, Democrats have done 55 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 4: so four separate times. The US Department of Justice under 56 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 4: Biden is the most partisan and political we've ever seen. 57 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 4: And Jack Smith, the special prosecutor, we've talked to length. 58 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 4: He is a partisan. He has a history of abusing power, 59 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 4: including this is not the first presidential candidate or potential 60 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 4: presidential candidate he's gone After he went after Bob McDonald, 61 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 4: the governor of Virginia, was considered a credible presidential candidate. 62 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 4: Jack Smith indicted him destroyed his political career, destroyed his life, 63 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 4: and then on appeal, the Supreme Court unanimously throughout the 64 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 4: conviction as not being consistent with law. 65 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: But he'd already done its job, which here out he 66 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 3: took him out. 67 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: In this instance, the case in the District of Columbia 68 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 4: is profoundly dangerous. It's profoundly dangerous because number one, the 69 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: jury pool in the District of Columbia is over ninety 70 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 4: percent about ninety four percent Democrat. So you're going to 71 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: get a jury that in all likelihood hates Donald Trump 72 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: and believes he's ad Off Hitler. Now, if you believe 73 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: someone's ad Off Hitler, you're a victim. 74 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: That's not a hard guilty for whatever the crime is. 75 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you hate if it's Adolf Hitler. Yes, we 76 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 4: also have a district judge who has demonstrated and earned 77 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: a reputation as being one of the furthest left Democrat 78 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 4: district judges on the federal bench in DC, who is 79 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 4: presiding this trial is designed to directly interfere with the election. 80 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: But Jack Smith said this is not enough, and so 81 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 4: he filed a motion, a motion for a gag order. 82 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 4: So he's gone to this left wing district judge, and 83 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 4: he's asked for a gag order. He says, defendant has 84 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 4: repeatedly and widely disseminated public statements attacking the citizens of 85 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 4: the district Columbia. That's by daring to point out that 86 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 4: ninety four percent of DC voters vote Democrat, and that's. 87 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: Going to be the jury pool the court. 88 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 4: That's by pointing out that the judge has a record 89 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 4: of being one of the most left wing Democrats on 90 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 4: the entire federal bench prosecutors. That's by pointing out that 91 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: Jack Smith is a hard core partisan Democrat whos already 92 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 4: abused his power repeatedly and prospective witnesses. The government therefore 93 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 4: requests that the court quote enter and narrowly tailored order 94 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 4: pursue into local Criminal Rule fifty seven C that restricts 95 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: certain prejudicial extra judicial statements, and in particular, what they 96 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 4: ask for, the government seeks this is a quote a narrow, 97 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 4: well defined restriction that is targeted at extra judicial statements 98 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: that present a serious and substantial danger of materially prejudicing 99 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 4: the case. The government's proposed order specifies that such statements 100 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 4: would include a statements regarding the identity, testimony or credibility 101 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 4: of prospective witnesses, and b statements about any party witness, attorney, 102 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 4: court personnel, or potential jurors that are disparaging and inflamma 103 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 4: territory or intimidating. Now, let's be clear, who do they 104 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 4: mean by potential witnesses. They mean people like Bills yep, 105 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 4: and they mean people like Mike Pence. So Mike Pence 106 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 4: is literally running against Donald Trump right now for the 107 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 4: Republican nomination for president, and you have the Biden Department 108 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 4: of Justice asking a federal judge issue an order that 109 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 4: Donald Trump cannot say a critical word of Mike Pence 110 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 4: about one of his opponents in the primary. Like, holy crap. 111 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 4: If this doesn't piss you off, you're not paying attention. 112 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 4: I mean, it is truly breathtaking. You want to understand 113 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 4: why this is election interference? DJ believes the federal court 114 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 4: can order one political candidate you're not allowed to criticize 115 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 4: your opponent. 116 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,119 Speaker 3: Just don't say a word. 117 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 4: Don't say a word at all, despite the fact that 118 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 4: you're facing a political persecution designed to interfere with the election, 119 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 4: You're not allowed to say it. And if you do, 120 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 4: by the way. Look, a gag order is typically enforced 121 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 4: by content tempt and by jail. So what the Biden 122 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: doj is proposing is if Donald Trump says a negative 123 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 4: word about Mike Pence, that the US Department of Justice 124 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 4: will show up and arrest him and put him in 125 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 4: jail for saying a negative word about one of his 126 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 4: opponents running for president. 127 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: And by the way, they would do that, Let's be clear, 128 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: they would love to arrest. 129 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: Him again, that's what they want, and to keep him 130 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 4: in jail. This is election interference. It is wildly unconstitutional. 131 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: It is a direct violation of the First Amendment. It 132 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 4: is also a direct violation of the right to vote, 133 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 4: of our democratic process in this country. Now, the Democrat 134 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: talking hens will say, look, sometimes you have gag orders. 135 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 4: If you're going against the mafia, bosh, you're going up 136 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 4: against al Capone. Courts will enter orders saying, Okay, you 137 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: can't intimidate witnesses, can't you can't say things that will 138 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 4: prejudice the jury. You're right, in an ordinary criminal trial, 139 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 4: those things can't happen in an ordinary criminal trial. The 140 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 4: defendant is not a leading candidate for president of the 141 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 4: United States actively running for president. 142 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: Of the United States. And my guess, I don't think 143 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: the district Court will grant this. 144 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 4: I don't know that. I don't know this judge at all. 145 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 4: I've never met her. Her record demonstrates she's left wing. 146 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 4: But I think if the district court granted this order, 147 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: it would be exceptionally foolish. Why because the order would 148 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 4: be appealed and it would be overturned on appeal. I 149 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 4: do not believe there's any way the Supreme Court of 150 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 4: the United States would allow a leading candidate for president 151 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 4: to be enjoined, to be ordered from a court, you 152 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 4: are not allowed to criticize your political opponents. I mean, 153 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 4: if you could envision, imagine debate. Let's we have a 154 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 4: subsequent Republican debate. Trump shows up and Mike Pence blasts him, 155 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 4: and Trump turns and says, I'm sorry, I'm prevented by 156 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 4: court order from. 157 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 3: Respety, Yeah, from defending myself. 158 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 4: That is not free speech, that is not democracy, that 159 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 4: is not how our system operates. 160 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: And that's election interference. Exactly perfect example of what capsulates. 161 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: And by the way, that's what they want, actually what 162 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 4: they want. Look, they know in that circumstance, Donald Trump 163 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 4: could not restrain himself, sure, and then they would arrest. 164 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 3: Them, and then they would arrest him. 165 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, you can almost envision the jack 166 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 4: booted thugs sitting by the side of the debate and 167 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 4: as Trump blasts his opponents, and he'll blast all his 168 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: opponents because that's what he does. You can almost envision 169 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 4: them walking out in the middle of the debate and saying, sir, 170 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 4: you're under arrest. If that is not election interference, holy cow. 171 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 4: It really shows just how extreme the Democrats have gotten. 172 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 4: This is horrific. By the way, let's be clear, I 173 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: would be every bit as opposed to an order preventing 174 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 4: Joe Biden from criticizing his opponents, from criticizing RFK Junior 175 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: from criticizing Donald Trump. Not to be clear, Joe Biden 176 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 4: couldn't get up in the morning and speak without criticizing 177 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 4: Donald Trump. 178 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: He says, good mo. Trump is the devil. That's just 179 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: how he addresses it. 180 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 4: And he also demonizes every other Republican because he's in 181 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: his mental and feeblement, he's also become an even more 182 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 4: vicious partisan. But I would be equally and animately opposed 183 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 4: to any court trying to prevent Joe Biden from attacking 184 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 4: me or Trump or anybody else, because that's what free 185 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 4: speech and elections are all about. But today's Democrats, they 186 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: don't believe in democracy, which is why these indictments are happening. 187 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 4: They want to stop the voters from voting in a 188 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 4: way they don't like, and they don't believe in free speech, 189 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 4: which is why they want to muzzle their leading opponent 190 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 4: for president. 191 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: It is uh. It's a brave new world we're living 192 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: in now. 193 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: If you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 194 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 195 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: from earlier this week. 196 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: Now onto story number two. 197 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: Let's talk about ray apps for a second and remind 198 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: people of ray apps. You and I have talked about 199 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: this on the show before. It's something that came up 200 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: obviously with director, with the director, the FBI director, also 201 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: with the Attorney General Merritt Garland. But Ray Epps out 202 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: of nowhere. Many people believe he was undercover FED. There 203 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: were people even chanting at January sixth fed fed fed. 204 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: He was the guy telling people were going to storm 205 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: the place the night before, caught on tape. He's a 206 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: guy that was pushing on the barricades. He was a 207 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: guy that was encouraging people to break into the Capitol 208 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: on January sixth, had not been charged with anything. Now, 209 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: fast forward multiple years later, and we find out this 210 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: last week that yes, ray Epps has now officially been 211 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: charged with a misdemeanor. Meanwhile, we're literally sending grandmothers to 212 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: prison that were in and around January the sixth, rounding 213 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: up people all over the country. Even just days ago 214 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: we saw another person rounded up. We put some you know, 215 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: some different people in jail for decades now for January 216 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: the sixth. But ray Epps, who clearly was a ringleader 217 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: at least on the day before January sixth and January sixth, 218 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: all of a sudden gets a misdemeanor. And we still 219 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: can't get a straight answer from Merrick Garland. I want 220 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: you to hear Representative Thomas Massey and his back and 221 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: forth and then your reaction. 222 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 5: You're signing the Constitution. I'm going to cite it. It's 223 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 5: our constitutional duty to do oversight. Now in that video, 224 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 5: that was your answer to a question to me two 225 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 5: years ago when I said how many agents or assets 226 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 5: of the government were present on January fifth and January 227 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 5: sixth and agitating in the crowd to go into the capitol, 228 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 5: and how many went into the capitol? Can you answer 229 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 5: that now? 230 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 6: I don't know the answer to that question. 231 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 5: Oh, last time, you don't know how many there were 232 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 5: or there were none. 233 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 6: I don't know the answer to either of those questions. 234 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 6: If there were any. I don't know how many. You've 235 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 6: know whether there are any. 236 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 5: I think you may have just perjured yourself that you 237 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 5: don't know that there were any. You want to say 238 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 5: that again, that you don't know that there were any. 239 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 6: No personal knowledge of this matter. I think what I 240 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 6: said the last time. 241 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 5: You've had two years to find out and to day, 242 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 5: by the way, that was in reference to Ray Epps, 243 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 5: and yesterday you indicted him. 244 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 7: Isn't that a wonderful coincidence on a misdemeanor. Meanwhile, you're 245 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 7: sending Grandma's to prison. You're putting people away for twenty 246 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 7: years for merely filming. 247 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: Some people weren't even there yet. 248 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 7: You got the guy on video, he's saying go into 249 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 7: the capitol. He's directing people to the capitol. Before the 250 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 7: speech ends, he's at the side of the first breach. 251 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: You've got all the goods on. 252 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 7: In ten videos, and it's an indictment for a misdemeanor. 253 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 5: The American public isn't buying it. I yielded to bounce 254 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 5: of my time to Chairman Geordy. 255 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I answer the question. 256 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you one now. 257 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 5: We'll let the down. 258 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead. But in discovery, in the cases were 259 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 6: filed with respect to January sixth, the Just Department prosecutors 260 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 6: provided whatever information they had about the question that you're asking. 261 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 6: With respect to mister EPs, the FBI has said that 262 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 6: he was not an employee or informant of the FBI. 263 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 6: Mister Epps has been charged and there's a proceeding, I 264 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 6: believe going on today on that subject. 265 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 5: The charge is a joke, I yielded, Chairman. 266 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: I love the end there, the charge of joke. I 267 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: yielded the chairman. He's right about that, based on everything 268 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: we know about Ray Epps. So who is the guy? 269 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 3: Well, look, it's a very good question. 270 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 4: And you see the Attorney General once again dodging and 271 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 4: and you know, one of the most telling moments of 272 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 4: that exchange is is when the when Merrick Garland says, well, 273 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 4: I don't even know if there were any FBI agents there? 274 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 4: And and and I think I think the point was 275 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 4: made quite accurately that what Merrick Garland said there was 276 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 4: almost certainly a deliberate lie. Look an earlier Verdict we 277 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 4: did actually before you and I teamed up, back when 278 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 4: it was Michael Knowles and me, we had an entire 279 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 4: episode of Verdict that was entitled who is ray Epps? 280 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: And and you ought to go on YouTube, and it 281 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: was episode one oh four of Verdict, Who Is ray Epps? 282 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 4: And it followed questioning that I had done in the 283 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 4: Judiciary committee of senior officials at the Department of Justice 284 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 4: and the FBI, where I asked them who Ray Epps was, 285 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 4: and if he had been, if he was an employee 286 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 4: of the FBI, if he was a confidential informant. They 287 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 4: refused to answer, They stonewalled. I asked the question, did 288 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 4: you have agents there? They refused to answer. They stonewalld 289 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: I asked whether federal agents incited violence? They refused to answer. 290 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 4: They stonewalled. And so this has been a pattern for 291 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 4: a long time. And now Merrick Garland is pleading ignorance 292 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 4: that he has no idea what the Department of Justice's 293 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 4: involvement was in incite violence or criminality. On January sixth, 294 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 4: I can tell you this is also in the wake 295 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 4: of the Department of Justice losing the case they brought 296 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 4: against the individual rules that were charged with a plot 297 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 4: to kidnap and murder the Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. And 298 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 4: the basis of their losing was that the FBI had 299 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 4: engaged in entrapment, that they had incited the criminality. 300 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: And so can you explain a little bit more what 301 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: that means in citing criminality so people understand it well. 302 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 4: Law enforcement can't entrap you into committing a crime. In 303 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 4: other words, if the police send an undercover agent to 304 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 4: you and they say, hey, Ben, there's a car parked 305 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: on the street. It's got the keys in it. Why 306 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 4: don't you steal that car? Come on, Ben, you can 307 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 4: do it. Just steal that car. Just hop in there, 308 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 4: turn the keys and take it. If they do that, 309 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: that's an example of entrapment where they're the ones, they're 310 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 4: the impetus, they're the genesis for the criminality, and you 311 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 4: might never have stolen the car otherwise if it were 312 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 4: not for the law enforcement officer who is prompting you 313 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 4: to do it, and so it's a defense that a 314 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 4: criminal defendant can give is look, this was the government's idea. 315 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 4: They entrapped me into doing it. And the basis, the 316 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 4: central defense of these defendants in Michigan was that undercover 317 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 4: informants for the FBI, they're the ones who had suggested 318 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 4: the plot, They're the ones who. 319 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 3: Drove it forward. 320 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 4: And these guys were acquitted, the charges were thrown out. 321 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 4: And the fact that the Biden DOJ is caught with 322 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 4: absolute misconduct, it is really stunning, and of course the 323 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 4: corporate the corrupt corporate media completely ignores it. And it's 324 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 4: exactly relevant to the question that was just raised about 325 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 4: January sixth, which is, to what degree did the criminal 326 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 4: conduct that occurred, the violence that occur on that day, 327 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 4: to what degree did law enforcement agents incite it or 328 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 4: prompted And the reason there's so much focus on Rey 329 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 4: Epps is he was caught on tape repeatedly saying let's 330 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 4: go into the capitol, not just up to the capital, 331 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 4: into the capitol. And there's one point where his behavior 332 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 4: was so odd that the entire crowd begins chanting fed, fed, fed, fed, 333 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 4: and so That's why I asked a senior leader at 334 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 4: the FBI if ray Epps was a FED, and she 335 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 4: refused to answer that question. Merrick Garland now is pleading 336 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 4: complete ignorance. He knows nothing of what happened on January 337 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 4: six except for the fact that he has told Congress 338 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 4: repeatedly that they've devoted more resources to prosecuting individuals involved 339 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 4: with January sixth than any other matter in DJ's history, 340 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 4: which is truly a stunning misallocation of resources. But it's 341 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 4: yet another example of how the Biden DOJ is about 342 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 4: politics all of the time, and if you can target 343 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 4: your political enemies, they're more than eager to do so. 344 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: Center Finally, there was one part that I really thought 345 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: wrapped up just how bad this back and forth was 346 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: this testimony before Congress and the Justice Department oversight, when 347 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: Merrick Garland has asked a pretty simple question, and that's, hey, 348 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: why do you act like you're the president's lawyer. That's 349 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: not your job. 350 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 6: Our job is not to do what is politically convenient. 351 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 6: Our job is not to take orders from the President, 352 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 6: from Congress, or from anyone else about who or what 353 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 6: to criminally investigate. As the president himself has said, and 354 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 6: I reaffirmed today, I am not the president's lawyer. I 355 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 6: will add I am not Congress's prosecutor. The Justice Department 356 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 6: works for the American people. Our job is to follow 357 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 6: the facts and the law, and that is what we do. 358 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: I don't believe him. I think he's a pathological liar 359 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: at this point. I don't think he can be trusted. 360 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: And I think he's weaponized a DOJ and turn it 361 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: into a weapon of the President of the United States 362 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: of America. No matter what he says with his rhetoric 363 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: there in those prescripted clear talking points, they knew this 364 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: was a problem for them, and so that's why they 365 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: had him say it this way. 366 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 4: Well, John Mitchell is rolling over in his grave. John 367 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 4: Mitchell was Richard Nixon's attorney general. He was indicted, he 368 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 4: was prosecuted, He served twenty two months in jail for 369 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 4: his corruption. And John Mitchell never dared be as brazen 370 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 4: as Merrick Garland. 371 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: Merrick Garland look. 372 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 4: In The New York Times reported that Joe Biden quote 373 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 4: told confidence that he wanted Attorney General Merrick Garland to 374 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: stop acting like a ponderous judge and to take decisive action. 375 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 4: Joe Biden knew exactly what he was getting with Merrick Garland. 376 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 4: He was getting someone willing to use the weaponry of 377 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 4: the Department of Justice to target his enemies and simultaneously 378 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 4: willing to do whatever is necessary to protect the President, 379 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 4: to protect Hunter Biden, to protect Democrats. And I will 380 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 4: underscore again, we've got multiple whistleblowers, career employees at the 381 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 4: IRS who've come forward, two different whistleblowers to say what 382 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 4: Merrick Garland just said there is flat out false because 383 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 4: the Department of Justice has consystematically obstructed justice, obstructed the 384 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 4: investigation into Hunter Biden, and especially into Joe Biden. And 385 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 4: so he can say over and over again, I'm not 386 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 4: the president's lawyer, and yet he behaves exactly like he's 387 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 4: the president's lawyer. 388 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: Should this be an election year issue, just the way 389 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: that the DOJ has been weaponizing, specifically, should Republicans be 390 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: targeting Merrick Garland for the way he's acting. 391 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 4: The weaponization and politicization of the Department of Justice, of 392 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 4: the FBI, of the machinery of federal government, I think 393 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 4: is a major election issue, a major reason to throw 394 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 4: these clowns out, because it has done more to undermine 395 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 4: the rule of law that than anything that we have 396 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 4: seen in decades. 397 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: If ever, as before, if you want to hear the 398 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: rest of this conversation on this topic, you can go 399 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: back and down the podcasts from earlier this week to 400 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: hear the entire thing. I want to get back to 401 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: the big story number three of the week. You may 402 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: have missed center. There was also something else that happened 403 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: a year ago, if you go backwards, Uh, the President 404 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: of the United States of America was in New York City, 405 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: and when he was there, he was at the UN 406 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: addressing the UN. He had meetings with Mayor Adams, the 407 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: mayor of New York City, and even did fundraisers with 408 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: the Mayor of New York City. This year, things are 409 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: a little different. He's not going to sit down and 410 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: meet with Mayor Adams because Mayor Adams has been critical 411 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: of the migrant crisis, the illegal immigrant crisis that is, 412 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, destroying, in his words, his city. And he's 413 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: not even going to go to the migrant center that's 414 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: just two blocks away. 415 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 8: Listen to this, despite the UN being just four avenues 416 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 8: away from the Roosevelt Hotel, which is the Migrant Intake 417 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 8: Center here in New York City. The President has no 418 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 8: plans to visit or address the migrant crisis here in 419 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 8: New York. In fact, he has no plans to meet 420 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 8: with Mayor Adams during his three day visit, a departure 421 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 8: from last year when the two met and attended fundraisers together. 422 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 8: The federal government also making no indication that they intend 423 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 8: to increase funding to New York City FEMA, providing one 424 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 8: hundred and four million dollars for contact that covers just 425 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 8: thirteen days of the crisis here. The Biden administration, frustrated 426 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 8: with Adam's response and his inability to stop the crisis, 427 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 8: also putting the finger at Congress to do more. 428 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing how your best friend, in the 429 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: guy that you're campaigning with and fundraising with a year ago, 430 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: now you won't even give him the time of day 431 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: because he won't get in line and say what you're saying. Yet, 432 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: the real coward here, Centaer, seems to be Adams and 433 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: every other Democrat, whether it's in San Diego, whether it's 434 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: on the border, or whether it's in New York City, 435 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: who refused to say out loud President Joe Biden, do 436 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: your job and close the border, secure the border. They 437 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: will not say those words. 438 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 4: Nope, none of them will. And they still claim to 439 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 4: be sanctuary cities that they say it's destroying their city, 440 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 4: but there's still a sanctuary city. You know the fact 441 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 4: that Mayor Adams uses the phrase that madman in Texas 442 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 4: and blames it all on Greg Adams, on Greg Abbott. 443 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 4: Look from his perspective, he knows it's the Democrats who've 444 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 4: caused this, but at this point his partisan loyalty is 445 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 4: just greater. So he's not willing to call out Joe Biden. 446 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 4: He's not willing to call out Kamala Harris. He's certainly 447 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 4: not willing to call out Chuck Schumer or any of 448 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 4: the Senate Democrats or congressional Democrats. He's not calling out 449 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 4: AOC although you know, as he talked about, when AOC 450 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 4: and Jerry Nadler and other Congressional Democrats recently had a 451 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 4: press conference in New York, even New Yorkers were fed 452 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 4: up and screaming at them. 453 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 3: And yet. 454 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 4: At the end of the day, the hypocrisy is so massive, 455 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 4: but even acknowledging it's a problem is too much for 456 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 4: Joe Biden, and so now Mayor Adams is persona non 457 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 4: grata because he acknowledges that it's a problem. You're supposed 458 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 4: to utterly ignore it and just let people suffer, and 459 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 4: it is. You know, I get asked a question over 460 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 4: and over again, why would the Democrats do this? And 461 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 4: I don't know for sure. Listen, I'm not a psychiatrist, 462 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 4: I'm not Sigmund Freud, so I don't know what's going 463 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 4: on in their head. I know, number one, they don't care. 464 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 4: And the reason I know they don't care because if 465 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 4: they cared, they would do something about it. They would 466 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 4: stop the policy decisions that are causing it to happen, 467 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 4: that are causing people to be killed, that are causing 468 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 4: children to be brutalized, that are causing women to be 469 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 4: actually assaulted. If they cared, they would behave differently tomorrow. 470 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 4: And they don't. Biden doesn't, Kamala Harris doesn't, Alejandro Mayorcis doesn't. 471 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 4: But the only explanation I can come up with is 472 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 4: really twofold number one, that they've handed the policy agenda 473 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 4: over to the real radicals, to the open border nuts 474 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 4: on the extreme left of the Democrat Party and They've 475 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 4: done that in almost every single issue. But number two 476 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 4: is I think the Democrats rationalized to themselves there's a 477 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 4: long term political benefit. They see that they view every 478 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 4: one of the seven two point two million illegal immigrants, 479 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 4: they view them as likely future Democrat voters, and their 480 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 4: view is, well, if we stay in power, the ends 481 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 4: justify the means. If some people have to die for 482 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 4: Democrats to stay in power, well that's okay with them. 483 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 4: And it's it looks saying that that sounds horrendously callous 484 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 4: and heartless. But I guess, Ben, what I would say 485 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 4: is if I'm wrong, if I'm ascribing too callous and 486 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 4: heartless a motive, what other explanation is there besides that, 487 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 4: because I don't know of one. 488 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, great point. I want to end with what you mentioned, 489 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: the reporting that's being done down at the border by 490 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,959 Speaker 1: Fox reporter Bill Malujin, and he said this on Fox, 491 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: and I think perfectly wraps up the last seventy two hours. 492 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 9: I'm artha, Well, these surging border numbers are really put 493 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 9: into context when you think about the fact that New 494 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 9: York City Mayor Eric Adams said his city can't handle 495 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 9: ten thousand migrants per month. Well, they're getting nine thousand 496 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 9: a day down here at the southern border. A lot 497 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 9: of them crossing right here in Eagle Pass. Take a 498 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 9: look at this video our fantastic drone team shot showing 499 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 9: a massive illegal crossing in the river right behind where 500 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 9: I'm standing. You'll see a human chain in the water 501 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 9: as they're trying to get across the river. Very dangerous spot. 502 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 9: A ten year old boy drowned in this area last week. 503 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 9: The port of entry is right next to these people, 504 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 9: just one hundred yards away. They don't care though, they 505 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 9: want to cross illegally because they feel if they can 506 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 9: step foot in the United States, they're going to be 507 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 9: released into the country. You also want to show you 508 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 9: human smuggling pursuit. Take a look at this video Texas 509 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 9: DPS chasing a human smuggler in Kinney County, high speed chase. 510 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 9: The driver an illegal immigrant driving a stolen truck loaded 511 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 9: with illegal immigrants. They spike his tires, he goes off 512 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 9: road into the brush, loses control, and then you'll see 513 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 9: on the thermal camera everybody goes bailing out of that vehicle, 514 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 9: running off in all different directions. Texas DPS arrested the 515 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 9: driver and six illegal immigrants lasting to show you down 516 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 9: in the Rio Grand Valley with Texas DPS troopers in 517 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 9: the brush as they are arresting illegal immigrants trying to 518 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 9: evade capture from border patrol. Several of them were wearing 519 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 9: cartel wristbands indicating they had paid a cartel to get 520 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 9: across illegally. And back out here live mark the concerning 521 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 9: border patrol agents reporting that right here in Egle Pass 522 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 9: they just arrested an illegal immigrant with a conviction and 523 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 9: another illegal immigrant with a conviction for sexual assault of 524 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 9: a child. Send it back to you. 525 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: No big deal, right, No big deal. Yeah, just people 526 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: that are killing people, and people with it are raping children. 527 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: That's who we're catching when we do catch them crumbing 528 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: coming across the border. And you heard him mention those wristbands, 529 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: the same RITS bands that the man who's in charge 530 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: of the border said he didn't know what they were 531 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: when you showed him to him before Congress. 532 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: No, that's exactly right. 533 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 4: That Bill Blugen is actually down on the border who's 534 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 4: reporting on what's happening. He knows what the wristbands are. 535 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 4: They're color coded for how many thousands of dollars they 536 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 4: owe the cartels, and yet the Secretary of Homeland Security 537 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 4: told me under oath before the Senate Judiciary Committee he 538 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 4: had no idea what they were because he simply doesn't care, 539 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 4: and neither do his political superiors. 540 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Center 541 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to deal 542 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: with my podcast, and you can listen to my podcast 543 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: every other day you're not listening to Verdict or each 544 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: day when you listen to Verdict. Afterwards, I'd love to 545 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: have you as a search to again the Ben Ferguson Podcast, 546 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: and we will see you back here on Monday morning.