WEBVTT - 19 Pivotal People: Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>promo code verbal Welcome to the solid verbal.

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<v Speaker 2>Come that for me. I'm a man, I'm for I've

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<v Speaker 2>heard so many players. I want to be happy. You

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<v Speaker 1>And down and tie. Welcome back to the solid verbal,

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<v Speaker 1>Boys and girls, my name is ty Hildebrand, joining me

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<v Speaker 1>as always my good friend over there in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>The man Dan Rubinstein sir, how's it going.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty good. The voice is climbing back, climbing there

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<v Speaker 2>for a second. Yeah, in my journeys to Austin and

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<v Speaker 2>had a wedding and was just you know, ty, you

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<v Speaker 2>know me, I talk a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>You do.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally came back to haunt me. But the voice is

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<v Speaker 2>making its way back to to elite status. So how

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<v Speaker 2>you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Hold hold on here? Pause? Yeah, how did you deal

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<v Speaker 1>with a lost voice at a wedding?

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<v Speaker 2>Poorly?

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<v Speaker 1>That is not a good venue to not have a

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<v Speaker 1>voice at.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was a nice wedding. It was a college

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<v Speaker 2>friend of Jody with an eyes and a really fun wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a nice hotel here in New York and

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<v Speaker 2>a robust band. We had a big band at our wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>This was an even bigger band, which is fine. I

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<v Speaker 2>bring this is God. I shouldn't say this, but if

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<v Speaker 2>this show is about honesty, I do now bring ear

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<v Speaker 2>plugs to what I do not.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the orange ones that you roll up.

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<v Speaker 2>They are they're not the putty ones. They're sort of spongy.

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<v Speaker 2>I got them from like write eight or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't tell me. They have like the George Seaffert strap

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<v Speaker 1>around them to keep them together.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you don't have no no, no good. They are

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<v Speaker 2>not earplug croakies involved. But my hearing is like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of not great, and so it's not a sign of

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<v Speaker 2>protest of like these darn kids. It's an actual, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to be able to hear my grandkids if

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<v Speaker 2>there still is an earth in twenty sixty three kind

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<v Speaker 2>of situation. So I am. I am taking those measures.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, to that wedding. Because of my voice. I

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<v Speaker 2>brought glasses because I have bad eyes, ear plugs because

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<v Speaker 2>I have bad ears, and lozenges because I was losing

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<v Speaker 2>my voice and screaming basic things at people at the table.

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<v Speaker 2>This never grow up, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>This is gonna be like that Space Cowboys movie here

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<v Speaker 1>when we're doing the podcast in like fifteen years. Two

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<v Speaker 1>old geezers who can't hear each other. I talk, can't

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<v Speaker 1>hear nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>But instead of motorcycles, we will be driving sensible Swedish

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<v Speaker 2>safety oriented.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they'll be driving us, Dan, get it right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. Oh okay, I can do that. We're both

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<v Speaker 2>in sidecars.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, welcome back to the show. I hope that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>We will do our best to give everyone ample notice,

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<v Speaker 2>This is correct, This is absolutely happening. I can't wait, Ty,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait, and I also can't wait for today's show, which,

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<v Speaker 2>if you've already downloaded it and paid attention to the title,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what we're doing. But we're going to say

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<v Speaker 2>things anyway, Ty, What are we doing today?

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<v Speaker 1>So we're not going to be talking about the feats

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<v Speaker 1>of strength between Mike Leach and a reporter from you

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<v Speaker 1>at USA today. Excuse me? We are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the coming college football season. Yes, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be talking about actual content, Dan, hashtag content, hashtag

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<v Speaker 1>blessed to be here this evening, talking about actual college

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<v Speaker 1>football content for the twenty eighteen season. True story here.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the origin of this idea, Dan, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do know that on my phone on June the first,

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<v Speaker 1>at eight am, I had an alert go off for

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<v Speaker 1>this very concept. Don't know where it came from. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it was you, I love it. If it

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<v Speaker 1>was me, I have to go back and try and investigate.

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<v Speaker 1>But I had an alert on my phone for the

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<v Speaker 1>top the most significant pivotal people. Ooh, for the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen season. What does that mean? Well, it can mean

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<v Speaker 1>of a whole variety of different things. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>the way that I interpreted it was, if we look,

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<v Speaker 1>if we do like a post mortem on this twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen season, after it's all said and done, and depending

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<v Speaker 1>on how some things go or don't go, if we

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<v Speaker 1>look back at the real important storylines, if we get

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<v Speaker 1>back to the root cause of them all on some level,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna We're gonna get down to the nitty gritty here,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get down to the pivotal people that are

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<v Speaker 1>behind it all.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you have a pop filter on your microphone

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<v Speaker 2>for all the times you're saying pivotal.

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<v Speaker 1>I do have a pop filter. It's a steel one.

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<v Speaker 1>Here go. Oh, it's a very important one. I pop

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. I'm apologetic for it, but I've done as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I can to prevent it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course, what I'm saying is like, everybody knows

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<v Speaker 1>that Tua, everyone knows that Kelly Bryant, everyone knows that

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<v Speaker 1>Trace McSorley, that these guys are going to have a

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<v Speaker 1>huge role to play, and how the twenty eighteen season

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<v Speaker 1>plays out, there's no denying it, but is Trace mcsory

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<v Speaker 1>will be really the most pivotal piece on that Penn

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<v Speaker 1>State team? Or what about his offensive coordinator who's taking

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<v Speaker 1>over for Joe Morehead who left for Mississippi State. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're going to make a case on this show

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<v Speaker 1>for some of the less popular names and the roles,

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<v Speaker 1>the important pivotal roles that they play on their respective teams.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where we're headed with tonight's show at actually next

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<v Speaker 1>week's show as well, because we're not going to get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to get through all nineteen of these items

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<v Speaker 1>if I know a number correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you do have the number correct. I've approached this

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<v Speaker 2>and basically looking at which names won't necessarily be the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest name some there will be some big names, obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>If you think about what potential stories are likely to

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<v Speaker 2>end up splashed on the front page of your favorite

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<v Speaker 2>publication or lead off this show or any other podcast

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<v Speaker 2>you listen to, or radio show, TV show, whatever they

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<v Speaker 2>talk about on Game Day, whatever is on a rundown

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<v Speaker 2>on PTI around any of these things that in the

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<v Speaker 2>mainstream and in the specific college football media world that

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to say, oh, that's a big deal

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<v Speaker 2>or this happened, and that's why it's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not necessarily, as you said, the biggest name,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's the name affecting those storylines that we can

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<v Speaker 2>anticipate cropping up along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>So why don't we start here since I already gave

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<v Speaker 1>away the game on one of our items. These are

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<v Speaker 1>in no particular order, by the way, but number one

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<v Speaker 1>pivotal person in the twenty eighteen season Ricky Ronnie good Good.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that start Ricky ron He, of course, is

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<v Speaker 1>the new offensive coordinator for the Penn State and Nitney Lions.

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<v Speaker 1>He takes over for Joe Moorehead, who took the head

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<v Speaker 1>coaching job down at Mississippi State. To reiterate what Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Morehead did the last two seasons at Penn State, twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>they averaged thirty seven point six points per game. Believe

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<v Speaker 1>it or not, that number went up last season they

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<v Speaker 1>averaged forty one point one points per game. Penn State

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<v Speaker 1>has had a high powered offense, to say the absolute

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<v Speaker 1>very least the last two seasons. They still have trace mcsorly,

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<v Speaker 1>but they lose Saquon Barkley. They also lose DeShawn Hamilton,

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<v Speaker 1>who lit up the NFL scouting combine. There is some

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<v Speaker 1>turnover across the board at Penn State. Not a ton,

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<v Speaker 1>but enough to I think be notable. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>that I put Ricky Ronnie on this list is, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody can put Trace McSorley down. We know he's an

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<v Speaker 1>important piece of that offense. But Ricky Ronnie, if he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't call the right plays, if he doesn't figure out

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<v Speaker 1>a way to use Miles Sanders now in the absence

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<v Speaker 1>of Saquon Barkley, if he calls a lot of bad

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<v Speaker 1>screen passes. I think that was part of the problem

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<v Speaker 1>in the bowl game that.

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<v Speaker 2>They won against a really good team that they want

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<v Speaker 2>sure m h.

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<v Speaker 1>If he does not assemble those parts correctly, this could

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<v Speaker 1>really come off the swivel for Penn State because there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more turnover on defense that I think we

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<v Speaker 1>need to worry about as fans, and many of us

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<v Speaker 1>are counting on that offense to really be the driving

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<v Speaker 1>force behind some degree of success in the twenty eighteen season.

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<v Speaker 1>If Ricky Ronnie can't assemble the pieces in short order.

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<v Speaker 1>Here he will be the pivotal piece and the main

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<v Speaker 1>reason why things don't go better in State College.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's other factors that I think affect that pick

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<v Speaker 2>as well. It's a good pick, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>loss of Saquon Barkley seems like, oh, that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>put more pressure on him. He doesn't have Saquon Barkley's

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just the loss of a singular, unique, at

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<v Speaker 2>times generational talent. It's the loss of the gravity. That's

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<v Speaker 2>an NBA term that I've only recently learned about. Even

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<v Speaker 2>if this incredible shooter isn't making shots, the defense always

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<v Speaker 2>has to account what is this guy doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he ready to do something spectacular at any moment.

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<v Speaker 2>And the way that Joe moorehead and that offense use

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<v Speaker 2>Sequon Barkley last year, you know, splitting him out wide,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, putting him in motion, moving him to the slot, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>there was always that gravity about him that opened things

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<v Speaker 2>up for the offense. Now, I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 2>is more pressure or more of a relief. Penn State

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<v Speaker 2>has recruited super well oh the past couple of years,

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<v Speaker 2>and they've recruited quite well at receiver, they have talented

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<v Speaker 2>running back. Obviously, since all of the issues with scholarships,

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<v Speaker 2>the offensive line recruiting has improved, and you have that

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<v Speaker 2>that dependable, you know, more so than probably ninety eight

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the country signal caller in trace mcsorly. So

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<v Speaker 2>on one end, there is more pressure because he has

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<v Speaker 2>to keep this train going and maximize trace mcsorrely, but

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<v Speaker 2>he is working with better pieces and obviously Ohio State

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<v Speaker 2>is out recruited Penn State, but I don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>anybody else has in that conference. So there is a

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<v Speaker 2>certain amount of luxury that he has as a first

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<v Speaker 2>time offensive coordinator for Penn State. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a great pick. I think you're right. It's a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>pivotal year for Ricky Ronnie and the Penn State offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, anybody can pick trace mcsorly. He is very much

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<v Speaker 1>a key cog in the works. But if Ricky Ronnie

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<v Speaker 1>can't assemble the pieces around him, that will be a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger story, no doubt about it. He has to do,

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<v Speaker 1>at least on some level what Joe Morehead did Again.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty sixteen, Penn State was twenty first in the nation

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<v Speaker 1>in yards per play, that improved to fourteenth last season

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<v Speaker 1>under Joe moorehead proved marginally but up over six and

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<v Speaker 1>a half yards per play. That's a tough act to

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<v Speaker 1>follow if you're Ricky Ronnie. I hope as a Penn

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<v Speaker 1>State grat. I hope as a Penn State fan he's

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<v Speaker 1>able to have some degree of success. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>a tough act to follow. And even though Saquon wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>always logging one hundred yard efforts, he still was a

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<v Speaker 1>menace out there on the field to try and guard

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<v Speaker 1>to account for it at all times.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is Do you have an all time favorite gravitational

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<v Speaker 2>pole player and it could be offense or defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a guy that you always need to know where

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<v Speaker 1>he's at.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because we've had some edge rushers obviously, just the

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<v Speaker 2>threat of Endominkan Sue in two thousand and nine, it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't really a gravity thing because you knew exactly where

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<v Speaker 2>he was and what he was going to do. But

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<v Speaker 2>I guess specifically offense or players that play in space,

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<v Speaker 2>like Eric Berry is one of those players from a

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<v Speaker 2>Reggie Bush on off Reggie.

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<v Speaker 1>Bush is I think the one that comes to mind most.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean Florida's had a couple of those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I just Man's it's such a luxury if you have

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<v Speaker 2>that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So Ricky Ronnie our first entry here in Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>give me the pivotal people thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Pivot pivotal people.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, number one in your new deep registered voice, think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>where are we going next? Here?

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<v Speaker 2>Dan? All right, you want to go? Should I choose

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<v Speaker 2>a pivotal person? Please?

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<v Speaker 1>Please? Do?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm going to go outside, way outside of

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<v Speaker 2>the power five system because in looking at you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation that what were we talking about last year

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<v Speaker 2>later on in the season as it related to group

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<v Speaker 2>of five schools and the playoff, it was essentially, should

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<v Speaker 2>should you see F be in this conversation?

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<v Speaker 1>Right right?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? Is what UCF is? What they're doing impressive

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<v Speaker 2>enough to warrant being ranked in the top seven eight

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<v Speaker 2>nine deep into the season in the rankings. Well, there

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<v Speaker 2>is one school that on their schedule has Memphis, Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 2>Houston and UCF, And I should mention Lee, oh wow, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>A loaded schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, come on, you think you're going to take

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<v Speaker 2>down the mountain, hig Engineer? Now, absolutely not, not without

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<v Speaker 2>a fight. So this pivotal person is Malcolm Perry, who's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be playing We mentioned him a few weeks ago, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe for Navy, and so he shifts into a quarterback role.

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<v Speaker 2>He played quarterback the last three weeks of the year

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<v Speaker 2>last year and ran all over a couple of big schools,

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<v Speaker 2>had a big game against Army in the snow, had

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<v Speaker 2>almost three hundred yards on the ground against SMU. But

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<v Speaker 2>they moved last year's starting quarterback Zach Aby to receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>And this year's Navy team if Malcolm Perry can actually

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<v Speaker 2>throw the ball in a forward direction, which struggled with

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<v Speaker 2>last year, but if he is able to be at

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<v Speaker 2>least competent, if he can complete what fifty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>his passes, which I don't think is asking too much.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw what happened what is it now three four

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<v Speaker 2>years ago with Keenan Reynolds and what a sort of

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<v Speaker 2>dynamic playmaker can do. I'm not saying Malcolm Arry is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a hisman guy, but I'm saying, with his

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<v Speaker 2>hands on the ball, Memphis, Notre Dame, Houston UCF like

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<v Speaker 2>he is going to affect at least one of their

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<v Speaker 2>season hopes and dreams m because that I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>you root for a team that plays Navy every year,

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<v Speaker 2>and it has to be the most discomforting few minutes

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<v Speaker 2>before kickoff every year because you just don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>to expect, while at the same time knowing exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>to expect. And so for that reason, Malcolm Perry I

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<v Speaker 2>think is going to change the dynamics of this season.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting too, because there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>I think considerations that we both had for this nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>person list that you couldn't get past the quarterback position.

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<v Speaker 1>There were other ones like Penn State, where if you

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<v Speaker 1>go a little bit deeper, I think is apparent that

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<v Speaker 1>there might be a better entry here. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're right when it comes to Navy, just in the

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<v Speaker 1>way that I've looked at them as again a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of a team that's had to play them, It always

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<v Speaker 1>begins and ends with the quarterback position. Navy, we assume,

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<v Speaker 1>and have assumed for a long time they don't play defense.

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<v Speaker 1>They just they want to, but because their offense will

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<v Speaker 1>suck the life out of you, they're really hoping that

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<v Speaker 1>at least on their defensive side of the ball, you're

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna You're gonna be stopped a few extra times,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's gonna be enough to give them enough breathing

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<v Speaker 1>room on offense to run the clock out, control it

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<v Speaker 1>for thirty eight minutes and that'll be that. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're right here to put Malcolm Perry on this list,

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<v Speaker 1>and frankly not someone else like you know, an h

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<v Speaker 1>back on their offense. This is the right selection if

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna go Navy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I included Notre Dame in that because they're

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<v Speaker 2>not a Power five school, at least not fully. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't anticipate Notre Dame being a national championship contender.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair but I certainly think. I mean, they have more

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<v Speaker 2>wiggle room than these other schools. But those other schools,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, every day, every game is a will we

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<v Speaker 2>play on New Year's or not situation? Sure, and Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame has the wiggle room. Off They can lose to

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<v Speaker 2>probably not three, but they can lose a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>games and still make a New Year's Day game. But

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<v Speaker 2>I am curious to see who specifically he targets with

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<v Speaker 2>his surgical season ruining ability.

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<v Speaker 1>Well's let's stay there then with Notre Dame. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to pivotal person number three.

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<v Speaker 2>Starting out with Penn State and Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to number three here. You mentioned Navy, and again,

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<v Speaker 1>if we want to use the example we just mentioned here,

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<v Speaker 1>you think of Notre Dame and I think the impulse

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<v Speaker 1>is to go with Brandon Wimbush. All right, Brandon Wimbush

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<v Speaker 1>completed a shade under fifty percent of his passes a

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<v Speaker 1>year ago. We've made no secret on this show of

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that Wimbush did not get better from start

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<v Speaker 1>to finish. It was a big source of angst for

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Kelly, Notre Dame, Notre Dame fans across the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Wimbush is the selection here. If Wimbush

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<v Speaker 1>plays better than he did a year ago, he could

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<v Speaker 1>be the piece that makes Notre Dame a ten or

0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:15.920
<v Speaker 1>eleven win team. But it's going to take him a

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<v Speaker 1>little while to get to a point where we're all

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<v Speaker 1>confident if he does get better, or we're all confident

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<v Speaker 1>in saying that yes, he actually has in the interim,

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<v Speaker 1>until he gets there, it's going to be the defense

0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:32.399
<v Speaker 1>with like nine starters back from a year ago. The

0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:34.520
<v Speaker 1>defense is going to have to hold down the fort

0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:38.719
<v Speaker 1>until the offense comes around, because, let's face it, new

0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:42.480
<v Speaker 1>starting running back Dexter Williams. He's had some experience at

0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:45.520
<v Speaker 1>running back and he was explosive at times a year ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But is he going to be healthy enough? Is he

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<v Speaker 1>going to be frankly good enough to be that featured

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<v Speaker 1>back in the offense? Only time will tell. They're losing

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<v Speaker 1>some at wide receiver. They're clearly losing some while on

0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:02.000
<v Speaker 1>the left hands out of that line. With two of

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<v Speaker 1>their starters being drafted in the top ten mcglinchy and Nelson,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to come down to clark Elite,

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<v Speaker 1>their new defensive coordinator who takes over for Mike Elko

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<v Speaker 1>after he left four Texas A and M. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>need to hold down the fort as Notre Dame really

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<v Speaker 1>tries to find its new way on offense here with

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<v Speaker 1>some new faces. I think it's even more important to

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<v Speaker 1>note that their schedule is sort of void of teams

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<v Speaker 1>that I look at at first blush and say, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be an offense this year, right, you know?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Stanford could be much improved from a year ago,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think anyone looked at Stanford and says

0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:49.480
<v Speaker 1>that's an explosive offense. It's just they play defense and

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<v Speaker 1>they like that.

0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:51.879
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they have the single most explosive player in

0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:52.880
<v Speaker 2>the country on offense.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I don't think Stanford as a whole is

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<v Speaker 1>defined by their offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's more of a defense and down your

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<v Speaker 1>throat kind of squad.

0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:07.080
<v Speaker 2>That's offense. Well, but it's running his offense. Tie on

0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:07.600
<v Speaker 2>this hill.

0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like they're going to score forty five

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<v Speaker 1>points a game on him.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair, all right.

0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I think if Notre Dame plays solid defense, they give

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<v Speaker 1>themselves a good shot even with a mediocre offense against

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<v Speaker 1>a team like a Stanford.

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<v Speaker 2>May I ask you just a quick question both about

0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:26.000
<v Speaker 2>specifically Brandon Wimbush and then big picture. Sure you saw

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of Brandon Wimbush last year, and it's always

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<v Speaker 2>fair to say, well, you know, first year growing pains,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera, et cetera. But he didn't necessarily get better

0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:38.520
<v Speaker 2>over the course of the season.

0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:40.680
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see any of the growing and that's part

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<v Speaker 1>of my problem.

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<v Speaker 2>But continue, right, and so my question as it relates

0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:49.720
<v Speaker 2>to him and anybody else in A similar situation is

0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:53.080
<v Speaker 2>is should we be making peace with what Brandon Wimbush is?

0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:57.199
<v Speaker 2>And granted again, first year quarterback, but generally you like

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<v Speaker 2>to see a progression. If you're going to ask the question,

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<v Speaker 2>if he's good, then what is Notre Dame's ceiling? Is

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<v Speaker 2>what we saw last year enough to make a judgment

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<v Speaker 2>or do you feel like there is enough talent and

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:13.600
<v Speaker 2>work to be done over summer that he can come

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<v Speaker 2>out looking more like Tommy Reese?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that was mean if you told me, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't a direct answer, but if you told me

0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:27.159
<v Speaker 1>now that Notre Dame was going to have a different

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 1>starting quarterback in twenty eighteen, I'd be perfectly fine with

0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:33.200
<v Speaker 1>that because I feel like we saw enough of Wimbush

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:36.480
<v Speaker 1>to know what he is, and because we didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>any progression from start to find Ah a hell of

0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:42.159
<v Speaker 1>a runner, Dan, a hell of a runner, dynamic on

0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:45.199
<v Speaker 1>the ground, no doubt about it. Clearly the best runner

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:48.720
<v Speaker 1>that they've got at their quarterback position on the roster,

0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:51.359
<v Speaker 1>no doubt about it. But as a passer leaves a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to be desired. And when the word got out

0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:56.919
<v Speaker 1>that he couldn't throw and he couldn't be comfortable in

0:23:56.960 --> 0:24:01.680
<v Speaker 1>that pocket. It changed the dynamic a great deal. It

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<v Speaker 1>really truly did. I feel like we 's a known

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<v Speaker 1>quantity at this point. We know what we're getting. I

0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:09.440
<v Speaker 1>am skeptical that he's going to get a lot better

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 1>between the end of last season and the start of next.

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<v Speaker 1>If you told me now that they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>go to like filed your covic or Ian book, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be perfectly cool with that trade off.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, since sports gambling is now legal in certain states

0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 2>more so than it was before. If you had to

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 2>wager twenty American dollars, who is starting, aside from any injuries,

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:36.920
<v Speaker 2>who is starting against Pitt the first game of the

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:38.400
<v Speaker 2>back half of Notre Dame schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm betting money, I'm still going to go with

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Wimbush.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, and I guess if they were going to

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<v Speaker 2>make a change, it might be after the pit game

0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 2>because they have a bye week before Navy and the

0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Navy defense I would assume is somewhat friendly to a

0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 2>new quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>If I were betting money, I'll go I'd go Wimbush.

0:24:56.800 --> 0:25:00.159
<v Speaker 1>I still think it's Wimbushes to lose, But anyway, I

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:03.199
<v Speaker 1>don't want to bury the lead here, Clark Lee is

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I think the direction that we go with the pivotal

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:11.240
<v Speaker 1>people because Notre Dame needs that defense in any way,

0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 1>shape or form, whether it's Wimbush or somebody else, the

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:17.440
<v Speaker 1>defense absolutely needs to be solid. I think it can

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:21.440
<v Speaker 1>do a lot for Notre Dame, especially given the schedule.

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>We can argue about whether or not Stanford is defined

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 1>by offense or defense, but I feel like a good

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 1>defense keeps you in the game against Stanford. A good

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 1>defense certainly keeps you in the game against a new

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:37.159
<v Speaker 1>look Michigan now with presumably Shape Patterson as your quarterback.

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Across the board, I don't look at Notre Dame schedule

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 1>and feel like there's any team on that schedule that

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:46.640
<v Speaker 1>can blow them away with offense. So that means even

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:49.640
<v Speaker 1>more so the defense can keep them in games even

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 1>if they're not performing optimally on offense. So Clark Lee,

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame defensive coordinator, everyone thinks he's a rising star.

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I would like to see that in practice in the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen season. Clark Lee, Notre Dame defensive coordinator. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a pivotal person. Twenty eight pivotal person number three.

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:14.159
<v Speaker 1>Good name Clarkley l E I g H l e A.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay l e A. Yeah, you know I'm gonna

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:19.880
<v Speaker 1>go to I'm gonna go with a to a very

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 1>familiar person. And this I didn't actually put on our

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 1>shared Google document, but I have a feeling you're going

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 1>to be able to, uh.

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<v Speaker 2>To make do with this. And this is this is

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<v Speaker 2>a big mainstream name. Even though I'm not a big

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, I like to be a college football hipster

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:34.399
<v Speaker 2>as often as I can be. I'm gonna go with

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<v Speaker 2>Charles Chip Kelly Tie the Chip person number four. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's not for the reasons I think that are I

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<v Speaker 2>hope are not obvious. It's not because like, oh, Chips

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<v Speaker 2>back and you know he could make UCLA fun. Blah

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:49.639
<v Speaker 2>blah blah. The reason I think ship Kelly is is

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 2>a pretty pivotal person. I do do I I do

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:56.159
<v Speaker 2>have phone blocking all the piece. The PAC twelve has

0:26:56.560 --> 0:27:00.040
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a a branding issue, a bit of

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 2>it don't say yes, I do indeed say And it's

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 2>one of those what was the uh you know, I've

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 2>got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell. Well,

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 2>the PAC twelve has a fever, and the only prescription

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 2>is an actual exciting storyline that's new and fresh and

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 2>that will that is familiar at the same time that

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 2>will make people want to whether they're on the West

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 2>coast or the Midwest, or the southwest, or the East

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 2>coast or wherever the south, that they will pay attention

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 2>to the Pac twelve more than they have in years

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 2>past and perhaps get good games in front of the

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 2>most anticipating audience. But in any case, it doesn't really

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:48.120
<v Speaker 2>matter if Washington's really good again. I don't even feel

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 2>like it matters all that much if Oregon's all that

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 2>good this year because they don't really play anybody early on,

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 2>so there is no real early season excitement to generate

0:27:55.880 --> 0:28:00.640
<v Speaker 2>buzz around Oregon. They're non conference schedules, particularly bad cal

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe in as a huge improvement team. I

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 2>don't even really believe in UCLA is a huge improvement team.

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 2>But if they're feisty tie, if they do something early on,

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 2>if they catch Oklahoma looking back at the FAU game,

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 2>if that's like a crazy triple overtime game, which I

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 2>don't necessarily believe will be. But even if Khalil Tate

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.640
<v Speaker 2>is once again total magic with the ball in his hand.

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Didn't seem to matter last year all that much. If

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:32.439
<v Speaker 2>usc is awesome, it's fine. It's expected. They have struggled

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 2>to perform on the national stage. So there's going to

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 2>be a lot of yeah, but what will they do

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 2>against a top team? But ty, if UCLA, and I

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 2>imagine UCLA is going to be well prepared for all

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 2>of their games, they might be out talented. I don't

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 2>think they're going to be out schemed. If UCLA is

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 2>enjoyable to watch and they can knock a couple of

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 2>teams off by really good coaching and just good situational execution,

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 2>whatever I think the PAC twelve becomes. And I already

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 2>saw the schedule, this part of the schedule is out.

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 2>UCLI opens the season at seven pm on ESPN, seven

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 2>pm Eastern, and that's against Cincinnati. Okay, I could not

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 2>imagine in previous years UCLA Cincinnati getting regular ESPN at

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 2>seven pm on opening Saturday night. So there's already attention

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 2>and buzz around Chip Kelly's arrival, and so they are

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 2>in a position to maximize that.

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>All right, So let me let me present the counterpoint,

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>because I also considered Charles chip Kelly is the is

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the prescription that can cure the Pac twelve's fever? Really

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.959
<v Speaker 1>more offense with chip Kelly, more excitement with chip Kelly,

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>or is it more defense across the board something that

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Charles chip Kelly doesn't quite have a reputation for.

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Builder Are we gonna do Charles chip Kelly all year?

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>We might? I mean we could.

0:29:57.760 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with it. We should just make that decision

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 2>now mid June. I'm okay with sticking with it for now. Okay, Okay,

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's just an offseason thing.

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Is Charles chip Kelly truly what the conference needs because

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>he brings excitement? Or will the conference benefit more from

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>better defense across the board and then presumably better Bowl

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.479
<v Speaker 1>performance that follows now?

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 2>I think the best thing the Pac twelve can do

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 2>is produce the best possible TV show every week, and

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I think exciting chip Kelly offenses because I really don't

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 2>when people watched and enjoyed Oregon before elsewhere and this

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 2>is not these are not my words, these are what

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:40.959
<v Speaker 2>you know. College football fans have told me that there

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 2>was just something fun about watching Oregon. It's the style

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 2>of offense uniforms whatever, and they happen to be really

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 2>good and they won a lot of games, so that

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 2>made it even more fun. And I think you Sel

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 2>eventually will win a bunch of games if sort of

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 2>the optimism is correct. But right now, in the short term,

0:30:56.880 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 2>this year, if chip Kelly, Charles chip Kelly can make

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 2>UCLA good TV, that I think will be a huge

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 2>boost to the PAC twelve.

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>All right, well, I am quite excited to watch Wilton

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Spate potentially run an oop de up offense finessa offense Dan.

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 2>There was so many things wrong with that sentence, Ty,

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 2>so many things wrong.

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's move on, let's stay actually a PAC twelve here.

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to go up to Washington, Dan, great, great salmon,

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>presumably the favorite to win PAC twelve this year.

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 2>I would I would say so.

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, A lot of guys back Jake Browning, Miles Gaskin

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:38.480
<v Speaker 1>back for I believe year eight for both of them. Now, yep,

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>let's talk a little bit about the wide receiver position.

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Two years ago, Jake Browning threw forty three touchdown passes,

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>most of which went to John Ross. John Ross now

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>playing in the NFL, but after John Ross left, he

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 1>still had a reliable target in Dante Pettis. But now

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Dante Pettis has gone as well, He's gone of the NFL.

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 2>YEP.

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Jake Browning threw twenty four fewer touchdown passes in twenty

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 1>seventeen than he did twenty sixteen, just by virtue of

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 1>losing John Ross. Now Pettis has gone. If there isn't

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>somebody who can step up at the wide receiver position,

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>that could mean I think a great deal of unbalanced

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>in that offense, in the force that is the Washington

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Huskies offense. So I ask you, Dan, if Chico mclatcher,

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>did I say that right?

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 2>All time? Great? Oh, great name one a top twenty

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 2>name in college football this year.

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>If Cheeko ain't there to be that force in the

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>wide receiving core, who's it going to be.

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 2>It's a good question. I like their tight end a lot,

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 2>but no downfield. That is an unanswerable question right now.

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Chico and mcclatcher. Dan is a pivotal person, a pivotal player,

0:32:56.800 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 1>pittal player in the twenty eighteen season. He needs targets

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 1>in the passing game. He needs to help balance that

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>offense with what I'd imagine would be a Miles Gaskin

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>heavy scheme at least at the start of the twenty

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 1>eighteen season. He went down with a broken ankle at

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the start of last year. He's a smaller guy, only

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 1>about five eight, but he is to your point, a

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 1>legit downfield, big play guy who can stretch defenses vertically.

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>He needs to perform at a high level. If not him,

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 1>then I don't know who. At a minimum, Chico mcclatcher

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 1>is a big cog in the works there for that

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Washington offense. I think he is a pivotal player, big cog.

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 2>And I was very careful saying that smaller dude, and

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 2>there isn't really a proven big, literal big receiver like

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Dante Pettis wasn't big either, but and I

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 2>think that's sort of the problem, Like there isn't that

0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 2>big body. And we saw a little bit of that

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 2>against Alabama. And this is something we've talked about in

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 2>the past that one of the things that teams who

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:08.319
<v Speaker 2>are able to hang with and move the ball through

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 2>the aregainst Alabama all have in common is that bigger receiver,

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 2>effective tight end down the field, hybrid sort of guy.

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 2>And Washington has a lot of interesting talent. Defensively, I

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 2>think they're going to be probably one of the best

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:27.360
<v Speaker 2>five or six defenses in the country. Offensively, they have weapons.

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:30.919
<v Speaker 2>I like Salve I think it's pronounced Salvin Ahmed. They're

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 2>all purpose type weapon behind Miles Gaskin, but they're on

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:38.320
<v Speaker 2>the field at the same time. Sometimes I'm curious about

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 2>and I think Chiao mcclatch is the right pick here

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 2>because he does have a lot of experience. I'm curious

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 2>about what this offense looks like where you don't have

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 2>a lot of big, proven downfield threat, really experienced quarterback,

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 2>but could we I mean a lot of misdirection, a

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 2>lot of end a round type stuff, option type stuff.

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Not Jake Browning is, That's not what he does, but

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 2>he's mobile. I'm curious to see how they are able

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:05.840
<v Speaker 2>to scheme around their limitations and turn them into strengths.

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Well, it may not be what Jake Browning does, but hell,

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>we know it's what Chris Peterson does or what he

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:13.759
<v Speaker 1>has done at his previous top the Boise State.

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, no, I am. I'm looking forward to the creativity,

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 2>all right.

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:25.800
<v Speaker 1>So Chico mcclatcher is our pivotal pivotal person on this list.

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 1>We've done two in a row now from the PAC twelve. Dan,

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 1>let's go to a different conference. Where do you want

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>to go?

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go to the Southeastern Conference if I may.

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to select an offensive mind that isn't necessarily

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 2>on the proven level of Charles chip Kelly.

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Wow, it's hard to believe you could find someone.

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 2>But hard to believe. Uh, Derek Duley.

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 1>WHOA, You're going with a very strong head of hair there?

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 1>If I don't sing with a very strong blackhead of

0:35:58.800 --> 0:35:59.839
<v Speaker 1>Bob Diaco hair.

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, lot of black Bob Diaco hair and a lot

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 2>of strong shower opinions if my memory serfs. Yeah, while

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 2>at Tennessee. So he's a new offensive coordinator at Miszoo.

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 2>This was an offense that was arguably and they didn't

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 2>have the strongest SEC schedule last year playing in the East,

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 2>but it was arguably the best or second best offense

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 2>behind Georgia's last year because of how strong and how

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.439
<v Speaker 2>well Drew Locke came on the second half of the year.

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 2>They had a great receiver in Jimon Moore. It was

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 2>really fun to watch in November and really seemed to

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 2>turn a corner after starting out so horrendously. But with

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Josh Hipel moving on to UCF and by all indications

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Speaker 2>and reports, they had the opportunity to hire an interview

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 2>guys with more of a track record let's say, at

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 2>offensive coordinator, college pro whatever, than Derek Dooley, who has

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:59.839
<v Speaker 2>most recently been fired by Tennessee and coached receivers at

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 2>in Dallas for the Cowboys. He was let go not

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 2>retained in Dallas. And I don't know if it's a

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:11.719
<v Speaker 2>he's familiar with the SEC. He has head coaching experience,

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:17.320
<v Speaker 2>He's another experience mind in the office. But Barry Odom

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 2>hired Derek Dooley to take his potential first round quarterback

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 2>to the next level and either help or really hurt

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Barry Odom's own situation in Columbia. I don't know if

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 2>it's going to go all that well. There is talent

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 2>on offense, they have a couple of nice running backs.

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 2>They bring back experienced receivers, not the top guys. But

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to be interesting, not just for

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Miszoo reasons, but sort of in the way that we

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 2>talked about Malcolm Perry they have Georgia and I think

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 2>they go to Alabama the first half of the season,

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 2>so you'll get sort of a good sense of whether

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:58.919
<v Speaker 2>or not they're competitive. And they did score some points

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 2>against Georgia last year. We'll get a sense of their

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:03.880
<v Speaker 2>competitive nature or whatever. But in the second half of

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 2>the season, when I think it's more fair to judge

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 2>new coaches, and this isn't about Duley, they have Florida

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 2>and Tennessee, both on the road, So in a strange way,

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:18.959
<v Speaker 2>Miszoo sort of as a probably decent team, they become

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 2>an interesting bellweather for Jeremy Prude and Dan Mullen late

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 2>in the season at home. And those are two teams

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 2>that are certainly more talented than Missouo at this point

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 2>to see where they stand. So curious about it on

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:31.800
<v Speaker 2>two levels.

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, a bright minded head coach will hire assistants that

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 1>fill in his own deficiencies. Sure, and Barriotom may be

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 1>looking at that Bob Diaco man here and saying, this

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>is something I need in my arsenal. I don't know

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:51.279
<v Speaker 1>if you've looked at Barriotom's hair, but just throwing it

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:56.919
<v Speaker 1>out there, you know, I looked at missoo, and I

0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 1>was considering Drew Locke because Drew Locke came on like

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:01.440
<v Speaker 1>a freight t last year. The offense really as a

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:04.839
<v Speaker 1>whole did and of course they lose their offensive coordinator

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:10.440
<v Speaker 1>now to UCF. I'm very curious in this selection. I

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:14.399
<v Speaker 1>too feel like Dooley is the right name to put

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 1>on this list because his hiring was a bit confounding.

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:22.240
<v Speaker 1>He really truly was, and we can question the logic

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 1>behind it. If Drew Locke comes out there and isn't

0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 1>able to ignite the offense the way he did a

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 1>year ago, my guess is that we'll be hearing a

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 1>lot about Derek Dooley in a negative context all throughout

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 1>the twenty eighteen season.

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 2>It has some Brady Hoke to it, it really does.

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think Barry odim by the end of last year,

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:42.840
<v Speaker 2>with how he turned things around, at least before the

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 2>bowl game, I don't think he was in that same

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 2>precarious situation as Mark Helfrich was. But the idea of

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 2>bringing on a failed coach to coach a very specific

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:57.799
<v Speaker 2>thing that he didn't really have any recent experience doing.

0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 2>That's worrisome to me and almost ma makes me think

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Barry Otom do you think Barry Odom saw Derek Dooley

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 2>and just assumed he was Mike Shanahan. Do you think

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 2>and like they just have this unspoken thing where Derek

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Dooley is like, yeah, he wants to hire me Derek Dooley,

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 2>and Barry Odam's like, I can't believe we got Mike Shannon.

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Say, Vince Dooley.

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 2>Vince Dooley. Well, I mean, Mike Shanahan at least looks

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 2>like Derek Dooley. I mean, I am I wrong? Do

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 2>they have at least they could they be cousins of

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 2>some kind?

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:28.359
<v Speaker 1>They have the same shaped head, I'd say.

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I will see.

0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of the Dooleys, can I can I go to

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the state of Georgia here for a second place?

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:40.799
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be warm, but yes, for.

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Our next selection here. So I think we're both player,

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:50.400
<v Speaker 1>we're both content going Derek Dooley, Oh yeah, Missouri offensive coordinator.

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 1>On the topic of Dooley's let's go to Georgia, and

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.360
<v Speaker 1>obviously Georgia, you could go a variety of different directions.

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Directions for the Georgia Bulldogs. H Jake from is a

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 1>very interesting name. Here, if only because he led the

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Georgia Bulldogs to the National Championship Game as a true freshman.

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I think Kirby Smart's offense, if we know anything about

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:21.320
<v Speaker 1>what he's built in the early going at Georgia, runs

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 1>through the running back position. We saw it last year

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 1>with Nick Chubb and Sony Michelle clearly a dynamic duo

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 1>at the running back position, and then as the year

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 1>wore on, we saw a little bit more of DeAndre Swift.

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Swift from my neck of the woods up here

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:41.799
<v Speaker 1>in Pennsylvania had six hundred and eighteen yards, but more

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:46.359
<v Speaker 1>importantly seven point six per carry and really started to

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 1>be a name that we talk more about in big

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 1>game situations. It's just sort of a change of pace back.

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Not a big guy, right solid I would I say,

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 2>I think he's like five ten two fifteen like there is.

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:00.400
<v Speaker 2>He is compact, but I think sturdy.

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Plays bigger than his size might indicate. The heart of

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:09.360
<v Speaker 1>that Georgia campaign was really through the running game, and

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I think now DeAndre Swift needs to step up and

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 1>be that guy. They got some guys behind him who

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 1>clearly we're going to see more of as the year progresses.

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>But at least to start. If Georgia wants to pick

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:23.359
<v Speaker 1>up where it left off a year ago, it's going

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 1>to be on the shoulders of DeAndre Swift. And let's

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 1>be honest, it's it's a tough act to follow. It's

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 1>a tough schedule to be a running back in just

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:39.240
<v Speaker 1>because SEC defenses are bigger or stronger, are particularly along

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:43.719
<v Speaker 1>that defensive line. He's got his work cut out for him, Dan,

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:47.319
<v Speaker 1>And if Georgia can't be effective on the ground, it

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 1>puts more pressure on from It puts more pressure on

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 1>just that team as a whole. So DeAndre Swift running

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>back Georgia is a pivotal person. He needs to step up.

0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:01.239
<v Speaker 1>He needs to assume the mantle that was left I

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:03.840
<v Speaker 1>guess in the wake of Nick Chubb and Sony Michelle.

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Pivotal person. Yeah, I think that's a good choice. There is,

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 2>as you mentioned, talent behind him. They recruited two blue

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 2>chip running backs this past year, including so is Zamir White,

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Samir one running back.

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Zamir White is a good name and hopefully he

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 2>has good knee tendons because he tore his ACL in December.

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 2>I want to say, but he is rehabbing, and if

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:28.840
<v Speaker 2>he's healthy, I assume he'll play some, especially with the

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 2>new red shirt rule, but I don't think they're in

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:33.719
<v Speaker 2>any sort of hurry to put his knee in jeopardy.

0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 2>They have Elijah Holyfields, Dalvin Cooast, little brother, James Cook,

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 2>and the good news about this offense in general is

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 2>I can't see a situation in which they are leaning

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 2>on DeAndre Swift the way they leaned on Nick Chubb

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 2>early on in his career, whether it was because of

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Sony Michelle's injuries, whatever. I think they're going to spread

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:56.920
<v Speaker 2>the ball around and the return of Mcole Hardeman and

0:43:57.040 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Terry Godwin, and I think it's fair to assume Jake

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 2>From will have more of the offense at his disposable,

0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:06.879
<v Speaker 2>at his disposal, excuse me, and we'll just have a

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 2>better command where they won't have to necessarily gut it

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:13.919
<v Speaker 2>out on the ground more often than not, that Jake

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 2>From will be trusted. You know, maybe Justin Field has

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:20.480
<v Speaker 2>used situationally there is room for more creativity now in

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:22.439
<v Speaker 2>year two of the From era.

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I do agree with that one hundred percent. My only point, though,

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:29.719
<v Speaker 1>I think we know that Kirby smart wants to run

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:34.760
<v Speaker 1>an Alabama style offense. I think we know that about

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 1>him at this point, and I.

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Don't even know what that means in twenty eighteen.

0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's more of a pro style, more of a

0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 1>balanced offense, let's say, than some other schools around the country.

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 1>And in order to do that, you need to be

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 1>effective on the ground. So I think if DeAndre Swift

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:54.800
<v Speaker 1>can't be effective, he will be pivotal in that the offense.

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:58.880
<v Speaker 1>The balance of that offense now shifts more towards a

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 1>passing game. And I was encouraged by what we saw

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.280
<v Speaker 1>out of Jake from in the National Championship. He clearly

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:07.279
<v Speaker 1>made all the throws and certainly down the stretch he

0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>was very effective. But I know if I were a

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Georgia fan, I'd feel much better about what they can

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:16.880
<v Speaker 1>do knowing that DeAndre Swift is a productive member of

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that team.

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh he's yeah. His first step is electric that such

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:23.719
<v Speaker 2>to the point, such, to the point, come on, Dan

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:27.479
<v Speaker 2>speak English, to the point where you have to worry

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 2>about him on every play if you're a sure offense,

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:34.359
<v Speaker 2>because he turns four into seventeen pretty easily and has

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:38.320
<v Speaker 2>the potential, especially if defenses are on their heels to

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 2>be pretty special. I'm looking forward to it.

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Let's do two more here on our Pivotal People Pivotal

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 1>People Part one show on this the Solid Verbal Collegeable

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 1>podcast Soliverable at gmail dot com. If you want to

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 1>weigh in, let us know what's on your mind. Dan,

0:45:57.360 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I did DeAndre Swift in the State of Georgia. Where

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:01.759
<v Speaker 1>you want to go next? Uh to?

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:05.240
<v Speaker 2>Whoever my next pivotal person, excuse me, is whoever edited

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 2>that Obama video for Mike Leech to watch? That is

0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 2>my next pivotal person because that, let's go with Pease

0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 2>potentially could put that Pullman coach to I don't know,

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:24.879
<v Speaker 2>peril in peril. I'm gonna go with an actual pick

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:29.839
<v Speaker 2>for a pivotal person. Let's go to uh Okay, I'm

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 2>gonna go back West. And because you started with your

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:34.160
<v Speaker 2>alma mater, we're gonna finish with my alma mater. I

0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 2>brought them up briefly, but this is somebody that I

0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 2>have concern is the wrong word. I just I am

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:46.759
<v Speaker 2>shruggy faced about Marcus Arroyo, the new Oregon offensive coordinator.

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:49.279
<v Speaker 2>So you went with the offensive coordinator, your alma mater,

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:51.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing the same thing. It's our show. We can

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 2>do what we want.

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Marcus, Marcus Arroyo, Marcus Arroyo, Yes, okay, So what what

0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:02.040
<v Speaker 1>is your concern here about Marcus Arroyo. So my concern

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 1>about Arroyo is Oregon is shifting offensive philosophies to what

0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:09.880
<v Speaker 1>degree I don't know, but in the way Mario Cristobal

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:12.440
<v Speaker 1>has talked about it, he wants you know, he's recruiting

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 1>bigger offensive lineman. He wants more of that ground and

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:20.320
<v Speaker 1>pound rather than that hurry up, Chip Kelly, no huddle

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:21.840
<v Speaker 1>speed speed speed.

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:24.800
<v Speaker 2>I think Oregon is going for more power power, power.

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Not that old offensive lines were not, you know, bulldozers

0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 2>in their own specific ways, but the scheme with an

0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:37.759
<v Speaker 2>experienced and talented quarterback without I think a lot of

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:41.920
<v Speaker 2>talent at receiver or tight end some but nothing close

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 2>to where it was in like twenty twelve, twenty eleven,

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:48.920
<v Speaker 2>and a defense that's improving. But Marcus Arroyo as a

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:51.480
<v Speaker 2>play caller, if you remember Willie Tagger called plays last year,

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 2>if you remember the year before that, it's a different

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:57.600
<v Speaker 2>offensive coordinator was the Mark helfrich Era. I am not

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 2>convinced that Marcus Arroyo is has I don't know how

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:05.840
<v Speaker 2>to phrase this tie. I'm not convinced of what to

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:08.799
<v Speaker 2>expect from Marcus Arroyo in this Oregon team. And that

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:12.399
<v Speaker 2>worries me because since two thousand and nine are really

0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:15.040
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and seven, when Schip Kelly took over as coordinator,

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:17.439
<v Speaker 2>you had a sense for identity, you had a sense

0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 2>of what to expect, and each year, each quarterback was

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:24.880
<v Speaker 2>better than the last. And now there's just this enormous

0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:27.840
<v Speaker 2>question about what this offense actually looks like with a

0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:31.839
<v Speaker 2>coach that hopefully stays for longer than one year, right, right,

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 2>So that's so my curiosity is pretty high if there's

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:37.879
<v Speaker 2>any question to me, Like, I think Oregon's pretty well

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:40.200
<v Speaker 2>defined at this point. You know, they're not as talented

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:41.880
<v Speaker 2>as they need to be if they're going to compete

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:47.360
<v Speaker 2>for the conference, but offensively, scheme wise, all the only

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 2>real reference what we have with Arroyo is the Bowl game,

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:52.880
<v Speaker 2>which was like a day after Christo Baul was hired

0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:55.799
<v Speaker 2>full time as the head coach, and the spring game,

0:48:56.200 --> 0:49:00.200
<v Speaker 2>and they're just his career is a lot of Bizzytion

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 2>coach stuff, a little bit of NFL quarterback. He worked

0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:04.919
<v Speaker 2>with Jared Goff, so that's at least a good sign.

0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:09.359
<v Speaker 2>But in terms of what a Marcus Royal offense will

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:13.160
<v Speaker 2>look like, it's a blank slate. There's nothing to say

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<v Speaker 2>expect X, Y, and Z because of these three reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>So who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>What is your level of comfort with where Oregon is

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<v Speaker 1>at now entering the twenty eighteen season. Just overall, I

0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:30.280
<v Speaker 1>think that they will be Their record will be better

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<v Speaker 1>than they actually are, which is not something we say

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<v Speaker 1>a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>But their schedule sucks in that they don't really play

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<v Speaker 2>anybody good. It's a nice schedule. Everything sort of sets

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<v Speaker 2>up ideally, given the road home splits, given the non

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<v Speaker 2>conference schedule. Offensively, Royce Freeman is going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>big hole to fill. The offensive line should be very good,

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<v Speaker 2>skill positions, not exactly where they've been these past few years.

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<v Speaker 2>And defensively, I like them a lot. They're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be young, They're going to play a lot of young guys,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in the secondary freshman and sophomores. But I'm confident,

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<v Speaker 2>given the current slate of quarterbacks in the Pac twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>that they will be a top forty five defense, top

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<v Speaker 2>forty defense in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Yeah, okay, well I said two more items. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we could list a Soliverable podcast on here if

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<v Speaker 1>we really wanted to be self congratulativotal.

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<v Speaker 2>People from Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, email a Soliverble at gmail dot com. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that does it for today. I think our lips

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<v Speaker 1>are parched enough. I need to make sure that we

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<v Speaker 1>preserve your voice, sure so that we could do this again.

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<v Speaker 1>But just to recap here, in no particular order, Charles Chip,

0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Kelly Clark, Lee, Derek Dooley, Marcus Arroyo, Ricky Ronnie, Malcolm Perry,

0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Swift, and Chico mcclatcher. We've got a list of

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<v Speaker 1>about ten others that we're going to unveil next week.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing Pivotal People, Pivotal Players, pivotal personas here on

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<v Speaker 1>the solid verbal again, just talking about the twenty eighteen

0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:16.520
<v Speaker 1>season and some of the key players here in what

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<v Speaker 1>we think is going to be a really fun season

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:20.280
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of cool storylines. If you've got any

0:51:20.920 --> 0:51:22.959
<v Speaker 1>others that you would like to add, you can find

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<v Speaker 1>us again at soliverblegmail dot com. Also on our website

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<v Speaker 1>at soliverble dot com. Also don't forget to follow us

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<v Speaker 1>on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, We've got a YouTube channel. We're

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<v Speaker 1>as well as Apple Podcasts. So anywhere find podcasts can

0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:52.120
<v Speaker 1>be found, you can find the solid verbal Dan. What

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<v Speaker 1>else do I need to make sure I check off

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<v Speaker 1>here before we let the find people go? Anything?

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<v Speaker 2>If today's is the original, if this is the first

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<v Speaker 2>part of Pivotal People, A lot of sequels have something

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<v Speaker 2>in the name that set them apart from the original. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's a that's a colon, So like Jurassic Park

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<v Speaker 2>colon the Lost World? Right, So what if you could choose?

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<v Speaker 2>Because we're in the business of hyping, of promoting, we

0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:23.439
<v Speaker 2>want people to download next weeks to see who we're

0:52:23.480 --> 0:52:27.800
<v Speaker 2>going to name in part two, give me a Pivotal

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<v Speaker 2>People call in your move?

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<v Speaker 1>What what what ghost protocol? Well, no, we're all that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good one. We're also we're also in the business of

0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 1>offering a tease, because any any true showman knows how

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<v Speaker 1>to choose what's coming next. So I would just lead

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<v Speaker 1>people with this. If this was Pivotal People Part one.

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<v Speaker 1>Next week's will be pivotal people colon in protecting Patterson.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I just I was gonna go pivotal people,

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<v Speaker 2>call in persons of interest.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go a little bit more specific and going.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you want to alliterative with your pop filter, and

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<v Speaker 2>I respect.

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<v Speaker 1>That, protecting Patterson, Dan, I'm not afraid of my pop Patterson. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's just leave it at that. Draw your

0:53:12.360 --> 0:53:15.960
<v Speaker 1>own conclusions again, Tell your friends about the show. We'll

0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:18.800
<v Speaker 1>be here all off season. We got much to break

0:53:19.320 --> 0:53:21.719
<v Speaker 1>over the next days and weeks about our live show

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:24.759
<v Speaker 1>and merchandise and website. Whole bunch of fun stuff on

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<v Speaker 1>the way. Thank you for listening to the show. We

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<v Speaker 1>will catch you all in a week. In the meantime

0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:33.839
<v Speaker 1>for myself, Ty Hildebrand and that guy over there, Dan Rubinstein.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, enjoy your week, enjoy your weekend, and stay

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<v Speaker 1>solid peace.