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Speaker 3: Ober, Here's Paul Calvici.

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Speaker 5: I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: It doesn't get any better than that.

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Speaker 5: And then there was one one game left this NFL season.

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Speaker 5: It's only the game El Grande, the biggest on the planet,

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl fifty eight. Can Kansas City become the NFL's

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Speaker 5: first repeat champ since New England two thousand and three

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Speaker 5: two thousand and four, Can the Niners win a record

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Speaker 5: tying six Super Bowl in their eighth appearance. Remember the

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Speaker 5: Niners last Super Bowl win was nineteen ninety four. It

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Speaker 5: is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 5: We are santan Ford and we are the original Thursday

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Speaker 5: Night Football, Paul calBC Ron Wolfley Wolf. Did you know

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Speaker 5: that the only teams to win three Super Bowls in

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Speaker 5: a five year span, Well, there were were three, and

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Speaker 5: it's the Pittsburgh Steelers in the seventies, the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 5: and now maybe just maybe Kansas City and Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: It really is incredible what Patrick Holmes is doing right now.

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Speaker 1: When you think that he's been to the championship game

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Speaker 5: So every other team that's not in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 5: you're building your team. If you're the Cardinals, for example,

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Speaker 5: you're in the NFC West, you're obviously looking to knock

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Speaker 5: off the division champion forty nine Ers last time you

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Speaker 5: you see many Austin Ford had a pretty good, pretty

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Speaker 5: auspicious start to his draft career as Cardinals GM based

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely huge, it really is. It prepares them for

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Speaker 1: Senior Ball, as you know, Pauli, is a big deal.

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Speaker 8: He's a stud and if he's there, how we get him?

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Speaker 8: Kyler love to throw it to him. I'm a big

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Speaker 8: A way, have a lot more talented than I was

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Speaker 6: Frank Sanders, I'll tell you what, he's everything.

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Speaker 5: He's made all the big plays. Plumber back to throw again.

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Speaker 5: In fact, one of those rare players who has something

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Speaker 5: Yes, and now instead of hitting that white ball, he

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Speaker 5: Welcome to the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford

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Speaker 5: and Gilbert. How are we doing, Frank doing?

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Speaker 2: Very good, guys, Thanks for that. That intro was pretty special. Look,

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Speaker 1: Frankie, I got to ask you this right right off

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Speaker 2: I'll feel actually i'll field. Yeah, man, infield is So

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Speaker 2: was like, no, Frank, those characters, those those those band

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Speaker 5: Red Rage. All right, So tell us speaking to Kyler,

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Speaker 5: what do you make of Kyler's last three games where

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Speaker 1: That It's really well said right there, Frankie, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think Kyler can improve the most? Where

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Speaker 2: You know when I watch him and I think that,

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Speaker 2: You know, all those things are there, But the ability

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Speaker 5: It's Frank Sander's former Cardinals receiver had that standout nineteen

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Speaker 2: Look, Jc, you get a tight end that can run

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Speaker 2: You know, let me, I'll say this series, there are

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Speaker 2: six foot three six foot four tall, tall, lanky, rangey

433
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Speaker 2: guys with arms. They can you know, they can make

434
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Speaker 2: all kind of plays from the from the one step

435
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 2: hits to you know, throwing the ball down the field,

436
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,199
Speaker 2: not afraid to go across the middle. And Marvin Harrison

437
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Speaker 2: would be something that you just would love to have,

438
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Speaker 2: especially because you know you need to have receivers in

439
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Speaker 2: the NFL. The conversation I will have if you have

440
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Speaker 2: to draft him, then what you're giving up or what

441
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 2: would you be doing. I think that if you had

442
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Speaker 2: a chance to get him, PAULI, I think the conversation

443
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Speaker 2: would be, you just want in the draft because you

444
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 2: know what you're getting a polished receiver that runs great routes.

445
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Speaker 2: I mean, this could be you know, another dread a

446
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Speaker 2: dreaded hair situation like Larry Fitzgerald, a guy that runs

447
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 2: all the routes. He's got speed, you know, he's quality.

448
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 2: He's quality on every area from the outside to the inside.

449
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 2: He's knowledgeable as a receiver, so you're winning in that area.

450
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Speaker 2: But I will add this in. We can look at

451
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Speaker 2: the NFL and there's thirty two teams, but it's probably

452
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Speaker 2: only about maybe twelve to fifteen receivers that you absolutely know.

453
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Speaker 2: Everyone's running a four wide receiver situation. But there's only

454
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Speaker 2: like four, you know, twelve to fifteen receivers that you

455
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Speaker 2: absolutely know unless you're a fan of that team, those

456
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Speaker 2: guys get the star conversations with Paulie. In reality, if

457
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Speaker 2: you're scouting department is doing what it needs to do,

458
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 2: there are a lot of little There are a lot

459
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Speaker 2: of receivers out there and that can make plays that

460
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Speaker 2: that if you can steal him in the draft between

461
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Speaker 2: the third, fourth and fifth round, that's gonna be absolutely

462
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Speaker 2: helpful to Kyler.

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Speaker 1: Frankie, what do you think Marvin Harrison Junior's best attribute.

464
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Speaker 2: Is Besides besides his height, his sizes.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Overside those things, you know what, he he just has

467
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Speaker 2: a pedigree. You know, we talk about that he comes.

468
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Speaker 2: You know, this is this is the son of one

469
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Speaker 2: of the greatest receivers ever played a game, that play

470
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Speaker 2: with one of the greatest quarterbacks and that Peyton Manning,

471
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Speaker 2: you know, and they just they just dominated for so

472
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Speaker 2: many years. And Marvin Harrison, a former you know Syracuse

473
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Speaker 2: kid that got into the NFL, you know, not not

474
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Speaker 2: that big of a body, but absolutely effective. And the

475
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Speaker 2: route running, the ability to get open. But not only that,

476
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Speaker 2: he just don't drop the ball. Like that's more important

477
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Speaker 2: than the NFL than anything. You can run great routes.

478
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Speaker 2: You can be the fastest on the team, but if

479
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Speaker 2: you dropped, then you're not helping your team, not one bit.

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Speaker 2: I think that's one of the things that we can see,

481
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Speaker 2: the pedigree of being able to run routes and get

482
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Speaker 2: in and out. It's the biggest thing. Most quarterbacks in

483
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Speaker 2: the NFL are patting the ball in the backfield and

484
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Speaker 2: that's either one or two thing is they're playing against

485
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Speaker 2: a very good defensive back or they're just not being

486
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Speaker 2: able to get open and the quarterback is having to

487
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Speaker 2: wait to him to wait for him to get open.

488
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Speaker 2: And I think Marvin Harrison just mental ability to know

489
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Speaker 2: how to attack the defense. It is the most important thing.

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Speaker 5: Longtime Cardinals receiver Frank Sanders our guest on the Big

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Speaker 5: Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert can't let

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Speaker 5: you go without a thought. On the Super Bowl. The

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Speaker 5: Chiefs beat Baltimore, the Niners beat the Lions. How do

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Speaker 5: you see the match up? What one or two things

495
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Speaker 5: do you think this comes down to?

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Speaker 2: You know, honestly, I think it comes down to what

497
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Speaker 2: we saw last weeks in the football game, which is

498
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Speaker 2: watching block Prety uses legs, you know, and knowing when

499
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Speaker 2: is use it. I think there's a Both teams have talent,

500
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Speaker 2: and they have very good our defense coordinats on how

501
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 2: to double certain guys and taking away your strengths, and

502
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 2: you know, and and but they have when they try

503
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Speaker 2: to take away your strengths, probably they have weaknesses. And

504
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: we saw that last week in the Detroit Lions and

505
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Speaker 2: Brock Purty he just said, you know what, I'm gonna run.

506
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Speaker 2: And if I run, and you guys are dropping all

507
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Speaker 2: these guys back here rushing for but you're dropping seven. Well,

508
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: there's zones. I find he thought hosing and I think

509
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: that if he's able to do that, then I think

510
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Speaker 2: that becomes the biggest difference. It's hard to bet against Mahomes,

511
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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift. You know, the Chiefs is the cheese burglar.

512
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 2: It's hard to bet. It's hard to bet it you know,

513
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Speaker 2: take call from the Hamburglars. Well for you got to

514
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Speaker 2: call him the cheese Burglars. It's hard to go against

515
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Speaker 2: those guys. But in reality, man, I'm really I'm thinking,

516
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Speaker 2: Sam frant I'm taking block party. I think it's this year.

517
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Speaker 2: I think it's too you know, San Francisco forty nine

518
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Speaker 2: ers year, man, And it should be. It should be

519
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Speaker 2: a really really good football game.

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised that the Kansas City Chiefs they won

521
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Speaker 1: a lot of games this year in a lot different way, Frankie,

522
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Speaker 1: as you know, you know on the defensive side of

523
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Speaker 1: the ball, man, that defense really was of surprise coming

524
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Speaker 1: into this season. Right now, So if you've got to

525
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Speaker 1: pick a score, if you got to pick a score

526
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Speaker 1: for this game, what's that score.

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Speaker 2: Going to be? They gonna be playing in Vegas. It's

528
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Speaker 2: gonna be a beautiful atmosphere, they're playing inside. You know,

529
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Speaker 2: it's February. I want to take a beautiful twenty eighth

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Speaker 2: to thirty thirty five.

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Speaker 5: Twenty eight thirty five, Oh well right, both those will

532
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Speaker 5: look pretty dang good on a golf scorecard. So you know,

533
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Speaker 5: all the best, frank All right, with the swing and

534
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Speaker 5: the game, we really enjoyed it. How is the golf

535
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Speaker 5: game these days?

536
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Speaker 2: By the way, it's pretty good, man. I don't have

537
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Speaker 2: no complaints. I think if KWAMEI was still here, Kwame

538
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Speaker 2: Lasta was still here the part of my game, it'll

539
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Speaker 2: be a good little it'll be a good low fight

540
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Speaker 2: between me and him j Seely and maybe Wolfe if

541
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Speaker 2: he can get out.

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Speaker 1: Frankie, I got to ask you this quickly. Biggest thing

543
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Speaker 1: you miss about the game?

544
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Speaker 2: Oh, biggest thing I missed about the game? The money?

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Speaker 5: Good.

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Speaker 1: You're so good.

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00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 5: That's good. That's why you can just take you can

548
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Speaker 5: just take all Jay Feely's money on the golf court.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Frank, I miss I miss you guys man. You

550
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: can't get you can't get that back. And miss you

551
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Speaker 2: guys hey.

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Speaker 5: Likewise, appreciate it, rank great stuff, Frank Sanders. We continue.

553
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Speaker 5: We'll get into the NFC right and talk about this

554
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 5: Super Bowl when we come back on the Big Red

555
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 5: Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 9: Kettle has got him and the forty nine ers are

557
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Speaker 9: going to the Super Bowl, Ben on Red f.

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas.

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Speaker 9: Come on, Christian McCaffrey's going to his first Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Rock Berd.

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Speaker 5: He's a going for Super Bowl.

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Speaker 9: The forty nine Ers have won this crazy championship game

563
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Speaker 9: and they are going to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Our guys, your counterparts State pasch Ron Wolf, Leag, Greg Papa,

565
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Speaker 5: and Tim Ryan on the call on Niners Radio. They

566
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Speaker 5: are going to Super Bowl fifty eight. They're talking about

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Speaker 5: a Niners team that scored seventeen points in an eight

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Speaker 5: minute span into the third quarter, then pulled away in

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Speaker 5: the fourth. In fact, they scored twenty seven straight points

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Speaker 5: after trailing twenty four to seven at half time. And

571
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Speaker 5: you're thinking, man, that must have been a heck of

572
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 5: a halftime speech by Kyle Shanahan. He said after the

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Speaker 5: game that he basically just told everyone we're not going

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Speaker 5: out like this quote end quote. And then brock Perty said, no,

575
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 5: no one was rah wah, No one was freaking out.

576
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 5: You look, it's football out of experienced guys, and man,

577
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 5: did they turn it around. They won thirty four to

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Speaker 5: thirty one. And yes they're going to Super Bowl fifty eight.

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Speaker 5: Forty nine Ers against Kansas City. It is a big

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Speaker 5: Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert Special Thanks

581
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Speaker 5: to Frank Sanders once again. So Wolf whar do you

582
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 5: start with this NFC championship. I know on Twitter three

583
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Speaker 5: words were trending. Take the points. It's Dan Campbell. People

584
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 5: were very critical of him going forward on fourth down

585
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Speaker 5: instead of opting for the field goal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully. You know, for me, the biggest surprise about

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Speaker 1: this game was the fact the Lions dominated the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage from the start of the game. I was

589
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Speaker 1: really really surprised. Now, listen, I know the Lions are

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Speaker 1: a very physical team, but man, we saw the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers up close and personal twice, of course, and

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Speaker 1: we know how physical they are on both sides of

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Speaker 1: the ball as well. But the Lions were the more

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Speaker 1: physical team. Man. They came out, they bludgeoned the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers.

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Speaker 5: They ran for a buck forty eight in the first half.

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Speaker 5: And I'm sitting there watching, I'm going, you know what,

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Speaker 5: that's the formula. That's the formula for the Cardinals. Were

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Speaker 5: you saying the same thing to yourself? That's why Manhi

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Speaker 5: Osborn Jonathan Gannon are stressing line of scrimmage, building from

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Speaker 5: the inside out. I mean, the Cardinals already had the

602
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 5: fourth ranked rushing game in the NFL, but to me.

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Speaker 5: Detroit put it out there, and I've said it more

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Speaker 5: than once, the Honolulu bleunt for the Cardinals, and I

605
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Speaker 5: think that's how you de thrown the NFC champion Niners.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, it also speaks to the culture

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Speaker 1: of the Lions, Polly, because once again the Lions were

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Speaker 1: much more intense from top to bottom. Man, on both

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Speaker 1: sides of the ball. You could just see the intensity

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Speaker 1: and the desperation level. And you know, I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: about yards. I'm not talking about points, Polly, I'm not

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Speaker 1: talking about any of that, man, I'm talking about the

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Speaker 1: plays that we're being called on both sides of the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, and the difference in intensity. It was

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Speaker 1: noticeable to me. And I have to wonder if the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers still believed, especially playing at home. Oh man,

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Speaker 1: do you know who we are? We're the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: You're the Lions. Do you have any idea who we are?

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Speaker 1: I just think there was there was a bit of complacency,

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Speaker 1: at least from what I saw in that first half.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it certainly looked like it. All right, brock Party

622
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Speaker 5: he led him back. He did the week before right

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Speaker 5: against Green Bay that game winning drive and was the

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Speaker 5: first time remember the Niners have been ohen thirty one

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Speaker 5: when trailing by five entering the fourth quarter under Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 5: Then he had an even bigger comeback against Detroit. What

627
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Speaker 5: do you think we learned about brock Party in that

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Speaker 5: NFC Championship game?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the last two weeks, the divisional round

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Speaker 1: of course, and the NFC Championship game. Guess what brock

631
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Speaker 1: Party brought his team back. Paul, he was the quarterback

632
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Speaker 1: and he was at the center of both of those comebacks.

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Speaker 1: You know, to me, that is the best thing that

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Speaker 1: could happen to the forty nine ers is that their

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Speaker 1: young quarterback who has accomplished so much in a year

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Speaker 1: and a half, the second year in the league and

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Speaker 1: yet a year and a half, this guy has accomplished

638
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Speaker 1: so much in terms of going out and growing as

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. But to be able to do it, to

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Speaker 1: be able to go out and execute and orchestrate an

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Speaker 1: offense when you need it the most and when it's

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Speaker 1: the most pressure. Man, that speaks so much of brock

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Speaker 1: Party right now in his growth and development.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and really key were those two twenty one yard

645
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 5: scrambles and to me. To me, that was Mahomes esque.

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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes kills you with the legs, just in those

647
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Speaker 5: critical moments when he manages to keep a defense. Honest,

648
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Speaker 5: you know, he's not a Lamar Jackson, but he runs

649
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Speaker 5: enough to convert those really tough third downs. And Brock

650
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 5: Purty did that twice. And I know for everyone who

651
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Speaker 5: calls him a game manager, it's interesting because it seems

652
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 5: like a lot of his stars come to his defense

653
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 5: after the game, Christian McCaffrey said, quote, all he's done

654
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 5: since he's been here is played an elite level. Everything

655
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Speaker 5: starts with him. We're lucky he's our quarterback. He takes

656
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 5: a lot of heat for absolutely no reason. That's Christian

657
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Speaker 5: McCaffrey on Brock Party.

658
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, no doubt about it. I also too, want

659
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Speaker 1: to go back to the game management part of it

660
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Speaker 1: right here where you're talking about take the points with

661
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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell. Of course, I talk about the intensity level

662
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Speaker 1: of the Detroit Lions and how they were so physical,

663
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: so much more to start this game, because it's a

664
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Speaker 1: great example of what happened when Dan Campbell decided to

665
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Speaker 1: go for go for it on fourth down as opposed

666
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Speaker 1: to making it a three possession game. Pauli had the

667
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: opportunity in the third quarter to make it a three

668
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: possession game to kick the field goal. He did not

669
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Speaker 1: do it. And it's a slap in the face to

670
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Speaker 1: anybody that believes in momentum in the football game, and

671
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Speaker 1: how important momentum in a football game truly is. It

672
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Speaker 1: is denying what is the truth. You can feel it

673
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: down on the field when momentum starts swinging. And that

674
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Speaker 1: kind of momentum gave the forty nine ers the impetus

675
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Speaker 1: to get back in the game when the Lions were

676
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Speaker 1: dominating that game, Paul yep well.

677
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Speaker 5: And then the second time in the fourth quarter of

678
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Speaker 5: about ten minutes left and the Lions trailed by three,

679
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 5: fourth and three from the Niners thirty and you had

680
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Speaker 5: a chance to tie the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

682
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Speaker 5: In the NFC Championship. What's remarkable to me is the

683
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Speaker 5: Wall Street Journal cited the two probability models to most

684
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 5: of the NFL teams use, and on the first one,

685
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 5: the Lions had an eighty five percent chance of winning

686
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Speaker 5: by going for it, an eighty two chance of winning

687
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Speaker 5: if they kick the field goal. It's only a three

688
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 5: percent spread in the second time around it was twenty

689
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Speaker 5: eight percent versus twenty six percent. Because of that point

690
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 5: they were trailing only a two percent spread. So, to me,

691
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Speaker 5: is the return on investment, the risk reward worth going

692
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Speaker 5: for it when the difference in win probability is only

693
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Speaker 5: a couple percent.

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Speaker 1: I know, Paully, and again I know it's math, and

695
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: those are numbers, and that's really really cool. But at

696
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Speaker 1: some point in time, right a head coach has got

697
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Speaker 1: to read the room. He's got to read the room

698
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Speaker 1: and look around and say, man, we have an opportunity

699
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Speaker 1: to go up and make this a three possession game

700
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Speaker 1: against the San Francisco forty nine ers in their house.

701
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Speaker 1: We have a chance to do this in the third quarter. Man,

702
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Speaker 1: that should to me, that should have been a no

703
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Speaker 1: brainer right there. And you saw what happened when the

704
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 1: forty nine ers came up with that stop. All of

705
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Speaker 1: that momentum it just went over the forty nine ers

706
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: side and they capitalized. From that point forward, they put

707
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Speaker 1: the hammer down.

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Speaker 5: So where do you think the Niners have an advantage

709
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Speaker 5: on the Chiefs? Is there an area where you think,

710
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 5: you know what the Niners are better here, or the

711
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 5: Niners have a competitive advantage in this part of the

712
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Speaker 5: game that you think of Kyle Shannon might stress against

713
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Speaker 5: Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that's really really rough. I think the Kansas

715
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: City Chiefs they got away with a big one when

716
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens refused to run the ball. More than

717
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell. The biggest mystery of Conference Championship weekend was

718
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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens refusing to be who they had been

719
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Speaker 1: all season long and refused to run the ball. And ultimately,

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Speaker 1: that's not Todd Mounkin, I'm sorry, that's John Harbaugh, whom

721
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Speaker 1: I love and respect greatly. He's got to say, whoa

722
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? And yet he had to

723
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: know this was the game plan going in. So you know, Polly,

724
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but the Ravens and them not running the ball,

725
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Speaker 1: that was the biggest mystery.

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Speaker 5: To me of all That's a great point because we

727
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 5: know the Niners run scheme very well. And Christian McCaffery

728
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 5: will probably be number two in the MVP voting behind

729
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson, and so for everything he did in that game,

730
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 5: and he had ninety yards rushing, he had two rushing touchdowns,

731
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Speaker 5: and Brockberty was so efficient, and they just have that

732
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Speaker 5: really multiple run game and they keep a defense. Honest,

733
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Speaker 5: it'll be real curious to see if they can test KC,

734
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Speaker 5: especially after Baltimore failed to do exactly that. In fact,

735
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Speaker 5: we'll talk about the AFC Championship and get some more

736
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Speaker 5: keys to the Super Bowl when we come back. This

737
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Speaker 5: is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert.

738
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Speaker 5: We are santan Ford.

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00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 6: This game is over, and you can doubt the Chiefs.

740
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 6: You can dislike the Chiefs, you can disrespect the Chiefs.

741
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 6: You're gonna have to deal with the Chiefs being the

742
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 6: AFC champions for the fourth time in five seasons. The

743
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 6: Chiefs have the Lamar Hunt Trophy and they're taking it

744
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 6: to Vegas for Super Bowl fifty eight.

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Speaker 5: That's a great call, Mitch Oltis Chiefs Radio right there.

746
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 5: So let's see. You gave us multiple choice, you know,

747
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 5: and I'll go with the all the above. There is fatigue,

748
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 5: but we do respect the Chiefs. And yes, you're gonna

749
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 5: have to deal with Kansas City if you are the

750
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Speaker 5: forty nine ers. And it is hard to believe, at

751
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 5: least for me, that the Chiefs are the underdog, right

752
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 5: now according to Vegas, that's where the game is going

753
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 5: to be. Super Bowl fifty eight. Wrapping up this edition

754
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 5: of The Big Red Rage, presented by Santan Ford and

755
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 5: Gilbert We are santan Ford, Paul calvc Ron Wolfley Frank

756
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 5: Sanders joined us earlier. But I mean, as if Patrick

757
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 5: mc needs any more motivation, he's now nine and three

758
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 5: as an underdog, and I'm guessing he's well aware that

759
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 5: he's considered an underdog in this game as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt, Paully, the Kansas City Chiefs and

761
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes just could do something legendary going forward here.

762
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: We've seen this with Tom Brady and the New England Patriots,

763
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: of course, but to see what the Chiefs could possibly achieve,

764
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: this is truly amazing right now. A dynasty, indeed, And

765
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: that Baltimore Ravens game, the AFC Conference Championship game, there

766
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: was a bad moon rising to me, PAULI, right from

767
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: the beginning when the Ravens went three and out and

768
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: the Chiefs took the ball and went eighty six yards

769
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: down the field and made it seven nothing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt, and look you touched on it in

771
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 5: the end of our last conversation, let's just hit it again.

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00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 5: I mean, Lamar had eight runs, including scrambles, and then

773
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 5: beyond that, Baltimore only ran eight more times for twenty

774
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 5: seven yards. And despite the fact this was never more

775
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 5: than a ten point game, final score seventeen to ten,

776
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 5: and in fact, Baltimore was just held to a season

777
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 5: low eighty one yards rushing by that Kansas City defense.

778
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Speaker 5: So are we not giving the Kansas City d maybe

779
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 5: enough credit because Baltimore on third down went three of

780
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Speaker 5: eleven and then Steve Spagnola, I mean his blitz scheme,

781
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 5: he blitzed twenty times, ended up with four sacks of

782
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Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. Man, the Kansas City Chiefs,

784
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: they just outplayed the Baltimore Ravens. But the game plan

785
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: of the Baltimore Ravens, I've never Paul I was screaming

786
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: at the television. I'm sure I wasn't alone. I'm sure

787
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: there were a lot of Baltimore raven fans screaming at

788
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: the television as well. I just could not believe that

789
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: they were not trying to run the ball and established

790
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: a guy like Gus Edwards who six ' one, two

791
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: hundred and forty pounds. They run the ball. They attacked

792
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage in a north south vertical kind

793
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: of way. I was stunned that they only ran the

794
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: ball sixteen times in this game, and eight of them.

795
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Speaker 1: Eight of those was Lamar Jackson running the ball. I've

796
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: never seen anything like it where a team who bases

797
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: their entire culture and identity on doing something refused to

798
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Speaker 1: actually do it when it mattered the most in a

799
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Speaker 1: championship game. Unbelievable.

800
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Speaker 5: It's almost like teams going against Patrick Mahomes and company

801
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 5: and think they have to do something super extra and

802
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 5: then they end up just defying their own identity. You know,

803
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 5: Baltimore just the moment looked too big for him. They

804
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 5: had eight. Yeah, they had eight flags, five personal fouls.

805
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 5: You know, you had a Kansas City receiving corps that

806
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 5: led the NFL in drops in the regular season had zero.

807
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 5: They played very clean. I mean you're talking about a

808
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 5: Chiefs team well that at one point lost five of eight.

809
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 5: They lost to the Raiders. Yeah, they were. They were

810
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 5: self admitted a mess on offense, and so Andy Reidna,

811
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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes and Mad Naggy. They said, you know, we

812
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 5: got to simplify things here. They did, and it worked,

813
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 5: and now they seem to be playing their best ball

814
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 5: the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're right about that. But so much of

816
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: the time too, in these games, Paully, these big games,

817
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: it's about the start and how you start. And you

818
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: know that's why I started with that, the fact that

819
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: there was a three and out by the Ravens and

820
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Speaker 1: then you went down the field eighty six yards for

821
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Speaker 1: a touchdown. Do you know the Chiefs have scored on

822
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Speaker 1: their opening drive and eight consecutive postseason games. Wow, on

823
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Speaker 1: their opening drive ball wow, press scored eight consecutive postseason games.

824
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Speaker 1: And by the way, on that note, the last twenty

825
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: six games, the Ravens have allowed and opening drive touchdown

826
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Speaker 1: twice in the last twenty six games. So, PAULI immediately

827
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 1: this game the tone was set. There was a bad

828
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Speaker 1: moon rising, and the Chiefs capitalized on that. In the

829
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Speaker 1: ball Baltimore Ravens had to be wondering what is going on?

830
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Speaker 5: Okay, maybe most confounding to me, though, I gotta be honest,

831
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Speaker 5: Travis Kelcey, how does he have eleven catches on eleven targets?

832
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 5: How are you not double and triple teaming him at

833
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 5: some point? How does he get so stinking wide open

834
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 5: when everyone knows he's the best tight end receiving thread

835
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Speaker 5: in the game.

836
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Speaker 1: Yes, Pauly, it's a great question. It's you want to

837
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Speaker 1: talk about dogma, you want to talk about culture. The

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00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens are a zone team. That's what they are.

839
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: They play more zone than they play a lot more man.

840
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 1: They play a lot more zone. That's what they do.

841
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: They love quarters, four deep three underneath. They love cover

842
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: three as well, three deep four underneath right there. It's

843
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: a situation where they love zone and oh my goodness,

844
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Speaker 1: you're playing that against Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelcey, guys

845
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: that have a chemistry that is incredible. So I think

846
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Speaker 1: that they did change their coverage as the game went along,

847
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: but at first man, the damage was done with Travis Kelsey.

848
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

849
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Speaker 5: Even All Pro Kyle Hamilton when he was matched up

850
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 5: on Kelsey was no match. And I'm curious, really, you know,

851
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 5: Steve Wilke's former Cardinals head coach, defensive coordinator for the Niners.

852
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 5: I'm curious what he does is against Travis Kelsey. I

853
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 5: know when they went against McBride Trey McBride. The last game,

854
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 5: they started out with Fred Warner. McBride torched him for

855
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 5: a big chunk throw and then they went with Drake

856
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 5: Greenlaw in a combination of a dB over the top

857
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 5: in bracket coverage. So I'm curious what the Niners do

858
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 5: against Kelsey. I'm also I'm also curious, you know, just

859
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 5: about Isaiah Paiceco and his ability to run the ball

860
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 5: in this game because guess what when when Patrick Mahomes

861
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 5: was sacked in the fourth quarter, that was the first

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Speaker 5: sack that Casey Oline had given up all postseason. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and we know what that Lions old line did against

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Speaker 5: the forty nine ers, especially to start. So I'm curious

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, PAULI, that is going to be great

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Speaker 1: right there. I mean, you know, the best thing you

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Speaker 1: can possibly do is rush for and drop seven. When

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Speaker 1: that you can do as a defense is be able

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Speaker 1: to rush for and drop seven. Now, can your four

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Speaker 1: got to ask yourself, because it's no good if you

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Speaker 1: can't get pressure. But I think the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: feel like they can get pressure on Pat Mahomes. So

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to see an awful lot of

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Speaker 1: four man rushes on Pat Mahomes and dropping seven into coverage.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes. I know that they're going

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Speaker 1: to be looking at Travis Kelcey and how they can

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Speaker 5: So what sort of game do you expect this to be?

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Speaker 5: And I bring that up because the Kansas City offense

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Speaker 5: only one time all season regular a postseason has scored

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Speaker 5: more than thirty one points. They're not what they used

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Speaker 5: to be on offense right in terms of a high octane,

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Speaker 5: high scoring offense. What do you think about how this game?

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Speaker 5: What sort of game do you expect?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think you're going to get a

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Speaker 1: I know it sounds crazy when you've got a Pat Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: but they need to put Pat Mahomes into a balanced offense.

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Speaker 1: It makes so much sense to do that once again

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Speaker 1: because now it will be so much better. You won't

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Speaker 1: got to do that, Paul. You got to put him

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Speaker 1: in a balanced offense. And for the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: with brock Purty, that's a no brainer. Especially against the

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, that might be their one weakness.

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Speaker 5: And we'll see if the moment is too big for

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Speaker 5: brock perty right, mister irrelevant two years ago, just his

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