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I love to wear. 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.640 I wanted to wear a hunting T shirt that represented 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:31.759 really the way I felt about hunting, and I really 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:33.600 didn't feel like I could find that at Cobells and 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.720 Sportsmans at the time. So we started making our own 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:43.120 hunt shirts. Let many states ago now Montana, Colorado, Texas, 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.040 and we have a couple just kind of blank hunt 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:51.040 Eat shirts, not state affiliated. Now I've always been able 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.320 to say because I'm always plugging Yanni's T shirt company, 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:58.360 his his T shirt Empire, because I don't, uh you know, 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:01.480 I don't have any steak in the game, right back 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:04.560 me up on this. No, all you get is a 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:06.760 couple of free T shirts I guess it called free teachers, 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:08.919 and already have two many T shirts. But now that's 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:13.840 gonna change because Janni is actually um gonna be working 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:20.680 on his design. He and his design team at the 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:24.840 corporate headquarters World Headquarters, at the World at the Hunt 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:28.040 Eat World Headquarters are gonna be working up a meat 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.360 Eat or hunt Eat shirt. No, it actually got the 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:35.960 design got approved late last night, and uh the graphics 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.760 guys doing the final artwork on it this week, so 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.480 I haven't even seen it. But this new shirt is 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:43.880 going to be available through me Eater channels and also 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.520 through Yanni's own Hunt Eat. What's your hunt eat dot com? Yes, sir, 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.160 h U N T T O E A T. Yeah, 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:55.119 don't put the two letter two in there. Someone else 0:02:55.120 --> 0:03:01.400 already snagged that. Doing main name really find know who? Well, well, 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.640 it's the same thing with like meat eater dot com. 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.000 You know, We've tried to contact him left and right, 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:07.880 and it's you know, he's got a Facebook page. But 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.840 it's more it's like hunting for restaurants is kind of 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:15.120 is the basis, but there's nothing there, you know. Uh, 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:18.480 we're gonna talk about not that now we're done plugging 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:20.919 Yanni's T shirt company. We're actually the thing I want 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.959 to talk about right now, Like the purpose of this 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:33.680 episode is to make a gigantic infomercial about the guide 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:38.400 book volumes that we've been working on called The Complete Guy, 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.480 The Hunting Butcher and Cooking, Wild Game, Buying One Big Game, 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:43.760 Buying two Small Games. But first I want to like 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:46.680 talk about a different aspect of books. And it's because 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:52.480 Janice my whole life, like my my whole professional life 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:57.280 or hunting life, whatever, both of those lives. People have 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:03.119 been telling me to read Jack O'Connor, who is You'll 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.920 hear many descriptions as the guy. He's like the granddaddy, Okay, 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:12.200 the first, the original what's known as a gun writer. Right, 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.560 he was at out their life for a bazillion years. 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.000 He was doing like the bulk of his hunting and 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:22.200 writing kind of in the post World War two years. Okay, 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:27.279 up and up well into the seventies. And if you 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.320 own a TO seventy, you own a TO seventy because 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:34.839 of Jack O'Connor. Right. He it was a great champion 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:39.960 of that cartridge. And I was guilty of having never like, 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.520 despite everybody always saying like, oh, you should read Jack O'Connor, 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:44.839 I never read Jack O'Connor. One of these people always 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:46.640 tell you about to read Jack O'Connor is because you know, 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.599 he liked to hunt Cousder and I like CU's dere um. 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:53.480 He's also a big sheep guy. So I started reading. 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:59.280 Yanni gave me a book. It's like the complete Jack O'Connor, um. Yeah, 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:03.520 some sort of like a compilation greatest of I think. Yeah, 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:07.640 it's been a very difficult read for me. Why. I'll 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:09.960 start out by saying this, I'll started saying, Jack O'Connor, 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.680 and then I encourage you, listener, I encourage you to 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:16.560 read some Jack O'Connor. What Jack O'Connor has going for 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:24.080 him is he's a fantastic writer. Okay, he's a he's 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:27.400 a great writer. Yes, when you read some of those stories, 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.440 I feel like when he's talking about even though it's 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.920 a warm beer because back then they didn't refrigerate their 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.920 beer when they're out camping. He talked about coming back 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.560 from accuse deer hunt and like sitting in like a 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.200 hot tent but cracking this like warm beer, and man, 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.000 when he describes it, I was like, man, I'm right 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:48.039 there drinking that beer with you. Great writer. Um has 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.920 unique ways of getting into and out of his stories, 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:59.440 you know, a phenomenal craftsman of words. But I just 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:03.520 like the like gun writer thing is always very troubling 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:07.200 to me because, like you get the sense rend O'Connor, 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.640 that guy wouldn't go on a squirrel hunt without a guide. 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:15.360 Do you think, yeah, he's just like he in some 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.080 ways the old gun writers and some gun writers they're 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:23.000 like they seem like trigger men. They are out there 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:29.400 to shoot right and everything else to them is just like, 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:33.800 besides the shooting, everything else to them is just like 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:38.600 details they can't be bothered with, right. But I feel 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:40.760 like back in his day's take me out so I 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:44.359 can shoot something. That's what I feel like their attitude is. 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:48.279 And he's got this thing too, like this like he 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.720 probably started this, the whole gunwriter thing where he goes 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:55.560 he's talking about shooting at these doll sheet and reading's 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.679 description brings to mind, now everyone's great fear is about 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:00.719 long range shooting, like out like long rain. And she 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:02.279 was like, oh, people are taking these shots. You shouln't 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:05.840 be taken. Yeah, But here's Jack O'Connor like bragging up 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:11.200 about taking three yard shots at doll sheep running full tilt, yeah, 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.720 and he's like aiming eight feet off the end of 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.920 its nose, gets up there, he's got one in the jaw, 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:22.200 one in the ass, one on the back, one through 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.680 the lungs, and then he goes into that dumb thing 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.720 gunwriters going to where he's like, okay, so he like 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.679 fills this thing full of holes taking shots he should 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.160 never be taken. Then she drags it down to the 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:36.560 ground and he's like, oh, in the grain you know, 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.040 the or the hundred and sixty grain boat tail pushed 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.760 by fifty six grains of in a blank. Primer really 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:46.880 did his job, and like you didn't. It's just ridiculous. 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.120 It's like when you're reading gun writers now and they 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.520 always have that part where like we went to wherever 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.480 to to Africa to test out the new load, and 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:56.600 they talk about this hunt like in the bullet. Really 0:07:56.720 --> 0:08:00.080 it's like really, like that's that's that's not how the 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.120 test things in real life. So you can't like act 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:07.640 like that's a test, right, It's just just making anecdotal observations. 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.280 And here you're anecdotal observation. It is based off blasting 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:15.200 away at adults. Sheeps is running full tilt. He's like 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.320 every shot the guy takes makes you cringe. He's got, 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:24.160 he's got. It was almost a hundred years ago. No, yeah, yeah, 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.440 so I just feel like it was there was there 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.800 were different ethics back then. I'm not talking about different ethics. 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:30.920 I'm talking about it's just like, yeah, but it's the 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.480 same people's stuff are saying now. People act like, oh, 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.840 the old days, right, So people think about Jack O'Connor, right, 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.920 like the old people didn't take these shots that were 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.680 you know, people were experienced and and um, you know, 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:47.559 like the old one shot, one bullet deal. And now 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:49.960 you got these long range guys taking shot nation never 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.120 be taken. And here's this iconic like everyone's favorite gun writer, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:59.880 right taking ridiculous shots. The guys nowadays don't take. Yeah, 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.200 people still do take him. But I don't think people. 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.400 I don't think you'll find many dolls sheep hunters are 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.760 shooting at full tilt running dolls sheep at three d yards. 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.680 I doubt it. I think a lot of guys would 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:14.600 be like nope. But here's the guy getting famous off 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:18.440 that stuff. He's going to take a crack at a 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.680 doll sheep where there's a U standing there in a 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:22.720 ram standing behind the you, and he can just see 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.520 the crest of its back behind the EU, and he 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.880 takes a shot seeing if he can't nick it spine. 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:34.480 He's taking ask shots, ear shots, and he like he's 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:38.640 just shooting. That's what I'm saying. That's how it was. 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.400 It was okay to do that back then. I still 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.840 think that now. Maybe not skimming one over the back 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:46.760 of a U and into the spine of one is 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.120 something that someone's gonna try today. But I still feel 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:52.800 like people are taking I mean, think about anlo. How 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.920 many dudes do you think are shooting at running animos 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:04.160 every day? I've killed running alo. Yeah. Like, I just 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.960 feel like now people are discussing that more in a 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.760 is this okay to do you know, ethics type of conversation. 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.480 We're back then it was okay. I mean look at 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:16.960 Art Young and Saxon Pope. Those boys used to launch. 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:18.960 They used to go on hunt trips with like a 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.599 thousand arrows because they see one game animal at a 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:25.800 hundred yards and would just start launching, you know, like 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:29.600 a war, you know, just raining arrows. And that was that's, 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:31.400 you know, the beginning of the Pope and Young club. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.319 Yeah no, my owd man, that's a good point. My 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.800 old man was involved in Pope and Young way ago, 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:37.920 like in the fifties, right. He was bow hunting back 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.800 before their both seasons, you know. And he knew this 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.040 guy from the Chicago because he was big in Chicago bowman, 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:48.880 like a Chicago area archery club before he moved to Michigan. 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.160 I was born and there was some guy at this 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.679 club called Art Laha. I guess he was some kind 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:57.280 of big, you know, big swinging dick figure in uh 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:59.680 bow hunt at the time, and he had this video 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.320 he made or he went went up to Alaska and 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.840 just shooting, you know. And I remember he pulls up, 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:08.280 he's out with some Eskimo hunters off the west coast 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:11.720 of Alaska and pulls up on some walrus on an 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:18.560 ice flow and puts an arrow into a walrus. And 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:21.679 it's like the walters didn't even know what happened, right, 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:24.760 He's just kind of curious what had happened. It's like 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:30.040 the walrus just didn't even like register the shot. Remember, 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:32.040 it's just like a different that's what that was, a 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:36.920 real world test. That's pre that's pre Marine Mammal Protection 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.680 Act obviously. So you might have a point where just 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:43.839 like the standards have changed over the years. But I expected, 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.880 just after hearing about O'Connor all these years, I expected 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:52.120 to read it and have the guy who had some 0:11:52.240 --> 0:12:01.720 reasonable things to say about making the shop, right, Like, 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:05.920 here's this old guy, the old guard, right, your master, 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.720 the original, and you read and you're expecting to hear 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:12.000 like just great insights about making the shot. Instead, it's 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:15.640 just a book of page after page after page of 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.400 you know, five bucks came running by and we all 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:21.679 just opened up. We got order. We don't know if 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.480 we had any. Yeah, you were. You went in there 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.840 with expectations. That was where you messed up. He went 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:32.120 in there thinking you knew what what you're gonna read there? Um, 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:35.240 But he's a good writer. Yeah, No, I just I 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:37.480 feel like he was just a he was I mean, 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:39.440 what do you want to call it? A gun writer 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:43.319 or a trigger trigger an adventure writer. He just wrote 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:48.280 about the hunts that he went on. You know. Yeah, 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:52.680 it's been difficult for me reading reading Jack. Well, the 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:54.679 reason I gave you sitting on the I was sitting 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:56.440 on the couch next to my woman last night reading 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.280 a little Jack O'Connor. I haven't taken it lightly. I'm 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.440 reading to damn thing. My brother told me to read it, 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:06.400 and you and everybody. Yeah, the other guy still haven't read. 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:11.439 Every talks about his Rourke, like, what's his name? Ruark 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:17.280 Rourke ar some big African game hunter Robert. I gotta 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:18.840 read him too, But I'm kind of you know what 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.480 I'm not into, like was he right in that same 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:27.160 time period? I'll read anything about hunting that was written 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:29.959 pre World War One. But I think I'm just not 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:35.400 cut out for post war post say post war, I 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:36.960 mean post World War two. I'm not cut off for 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:40.720 the post war generation of which my father was a member. 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.800 Who and here's his image right here on my desk, 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.680 sitting there with a pope and young Colorado black bear 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:51.920 that he uh killed. Yanni was commenting on that because 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:53.400 there's a pack of hounds there and you can no 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:57.520 longer hunt bears and hounds in Colorado. That and his 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:01.280 apparel dates that photo. And and before we started recording 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.320 your Jane was talking about how now you know where 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.600 we all run around in synthetics for mountain hunting. And 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:10.520 he's like, how did you manage all that wet stuff? 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:15.320 Cotton wool? Yeah, the dudes spend more time tending to 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:20.280 their duds or did they just spend more time wet? Yeah? 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.040 And it's all relative, you know. It's not like they 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:26.320 were any more uncomfortable than we are when we're out there. No, 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:30.840 keep mind too like this. He had spent a couple 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:35.920 of years hiking from southern Italy up in the Europe 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.040 during World War Two, living in a hole in the ground. 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.720 So imagine like, you know, just people who camp a 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:46.400 lot can't better you know, so at that way, like yeah, 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.480 maybe after that, like that generation of guys that fought 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.320 probably were able to deal with a lot of discomfort, 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:53.840 the same way that you and I will deal with 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.040 a lot more discomfort than people who haven't been camping. 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.120 You just learned to get you become accustomed to the 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:04.160 feeling of wet stuff of Um, watch it, I'm gonna 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:08.760 do this amazing segue right now. So O'Connor wrote a book, 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:13.200 and we're here to talk about a book that we 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:17.240 have that's coming out now, like right now, complete guy 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:21.080 to hunting, butchering and cooking wild game. Now, when this 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:26.120 whole thing started, I can't remember how it was, just 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:30.800 like it became this idea that I had and it's 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.920 the handful of the guys that I worked with at 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.800 zero point zero production. We started like putting together this 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.680 idea of this book because we had been accumulating a 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:44.200 lot of great images and and information and had the 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:48.560 luxury of really traveling around meeting a lot of phenomenal hunters. 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:54.520 The hell you're doing, Honnie sat in a timer um 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:59.240 and sold this book idea to the polisher I work with. 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:03.600 We just Speakling Grounds imprint at random House and sold 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:07.960 this book idea, and I mistakenly put down as we 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.560 were putting his proposal together, I put down the word complete. 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.080 So it's gonna be the complete guide to hunting and 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:17.480 butchering hunting, butchering and cooking wild game. And I learned 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.320 over the following handful of years that you should not 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.800 throw around the word complete when talking about a book, 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:30.040 because as we started to outline the project, everything that 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.960 came up, you'd be like, well, should we have something 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:36.560 on this, should we have something on that? And you'd 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.440 always have to say, well, yeah, because this is the 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:43.360 complete guide. It should have been called the truncated Guide 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:47.360 the Hunting, Butchering and Cooking wild game, or you know, 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:50.520 the basic guide, but no, it's the complete guide. And 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:57.040 we worked on it for a few years. By the 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:02.840 time it was done, the book came in at seven 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:07.439 and fifty pages long. When I sat down with my 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:16.040 publisher and she kindly tried to explain that you just can't. 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.760 It's just very difficult. You just don't really make books 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:23.359 that big. So we were faced with this thing of 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:28.200 either trimming the book out now. When I wrote my 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.840 Buffalo book, which is a narrative nonfiction book. Hey, it's 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.200 like a book that tells the story, it actually tells 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.840 two stories. Tells a story of very involved hunt I 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:40.560 did for Buffalo on a on a special lottery license 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:44.000 that I drew in Alaska. Tells that story, and then 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.159 along with that story, it tells the story of the 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:51.280 species of the creature you know, from the ice ages 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.480 up until the present day. Very dramatic story about an animal. 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:56.960 That was a narrative book that came in long. I 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:58.840 remember I caught a hundred pages out of that book, 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.199 and it was pain and full to cut those pages up. 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.080 And then the book's better, it reads better. It's like 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.800 I was never writing better. I'll probably I was never 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:08.919 writing as good and I'll never write better than I 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:12.640 was writing when I wrote my Buffalo book. I now know. Um, 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:16.720 I was pre marriage and pre kids. You're smarter. I 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:18.440 think you're a lot smarter before you get married and 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:24.280 have kids. Um. You don't agree with that, Yannie. No, 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:31.200 where's your brain down? It does it? Where's your brain down? 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:35.960 The exhaustion and you don't have time to read. Um, 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.520 But with this book with the guide book. It wasn't 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:41.240 like that. Man, I couldn't stand getting rid of the stuff, 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.040 and so we hit them this idea, we're gonna split 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.879 it into big game in small game. And it was 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.119 different than just taking like an exact on knife right 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.400 or like. It was different than just separating it out. 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.960 It just changed the whole nature of the project. And 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.119 that added we had already been over two years anyway. 0:18:56.160 --> 0:19:00.960 That added another year into it to build old the 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:04.439 Complete Guide the Hunting, Butchering and Cooking Wild Game Volume one, 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.520 Big Game, Volume two, Small Game. A thing that's frustrated 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:13.680 me um. The name of the book has let a 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.200 lot of people to to to like write and ask 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:19.480 about like the recipe book, but the cookbooks or butchering 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:25.080 books they are that. Okay, the books are that, but 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.240 they're much much more in that. And the way this 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:30.560 thing works, I want you to feel right now like 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:35.520 you're watching QVC. You're watching a show, an infomercial show. 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:38.240 So just try to get yourself in that mind frame 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:39.720 or you're ready to call them with the credit card. 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:43.359 Because the way the book works is I have volume 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:45.680 one in my hand. Volume one is available now. Volume 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:49.440 two will be available a couple of months. Volume one 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:56.919 is divided into five sections. Section one, what is an 0:19:57.000 --> 0:20:01.760 introduction than even section one. In Section one deals with gear, 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:11.560 all aspects of gear, with very heavy emphasis on answering 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:14.679 the types of questions, and we get many hundreds of 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:22.320 them that come into the me Eater website from both 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:28.320 new and experienced hunters about gear preferences. So it covers 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:31.680 gear up to I mean, from hunting out your back 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:38.200 door to hunting in the deepest back country. Around Section two, 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:41.119 I don't walk through he's a little bit more to 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:45.919 explain better section to his tactics and strategies. Okay, So 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:51.720 it deals with the basics of hunting and lays down 0:20:51.840 --> 0:21:00.400 sort of a working vocabulary of different hunting methodologies hunting methods. 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:05.840 We'll talk about those a little bit more. Section three 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:10.720 is big game Species and Methods. In this section we 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:20.560 have very detailed profiles on fourteen of North America's most 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:28.720 popular big game animals from biologic details, how to read, 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:34.120 sign best hunting methods, archery, rifle, early season, late season calling, 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:42.520 lay it all out animal by animal Section four. At 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:44.480 this point that we're into section four, you're into the 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:50.280 three page of volume one. So there's three hundred pages 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:53.320 preceding this, right, but starting at page three you enter 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:59.160 into butchering, and butchering covers all aspects of of field dressing, 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:05.240 ordering even up to packaging for the freezer. Big game. 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:07.440 And it isn't just like how to cut up a 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:11.639 deer on a workbench at home. We deal with butchering 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:18.880 issues in back country skinning methods for you know, caping heads, 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:24.560 black bear rugs, everything, and I'm talking soup to nuts 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:31.000 or nuts to kidneys with great pictures back at all, 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:34.159 amazing pictures. Because here's the deal. If you normally go 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:36.280 on and buy but like what what, here's one thing 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:38.920 we're able to do. So we've made like sixty some 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:44.720 episodes of me Eater. Plus I've been hunting and swapping 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:47.720 pictures of my hunting bodies my entire life. So I 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:51.440 have a big catalog images, but sixty episodes of me Eater. 0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:53.960 And the way the technology is now, we're able to 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:58.760 use screen grabs. Okay, so we're able to grab images 0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:02.560 published published, more quality images out of footage to use 0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:09.520 to enhance step by step procedures in the book. The 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:11.399 other images that well, I'll get to the images of 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:18.840 the mint. Finally, section five Cooking Big Game. Now this 0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:23.960 section is actual recipes. I'm talking you go into your freezer, 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:27.960 open the door, pull out a package butchered, and process 0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:31.239 in the way that subscribed in section four, and what 0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:33.639 you actually do with it, I mean teaspoon of this, 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:38.880 tablespoon of that. Recipes and these are highlight recipes, proven 0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:43.320 great things that I love to cook. The friends of 0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:46.119 mine love to cook recipes that we've kind of developed 0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:50.199 over time by sharing information back and forth, things that 0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:52.679 were inspired by some chefs that I know that I 0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:55.639 like to cook. Wild Game was just like great recipes 0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:58.800 and no make believe recipes. Like a lot of times 0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:01.879 you open up a cookbook and there will be a 0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:07.120 recipe like, you know, take some duck com feet and 0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:09.560 put it on pasta. It's like, dude, that's not a 0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:11.200 rest because you're not telling me how to make duck 0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:12.800 on feet or assuming I'm going out and buying it, 0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:14.920 then I'm putting on recipes Like if that's a recipe, 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:16.640 then then you might as well put one in there 0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:19.520 called peanut butter and jelly sandwiches or butter and bread. 0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:22.719 You know, these are like real recipes that you build 0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:28.600 from the ground up, not like so many recipes, like 0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:30.680 like God bless them. But when I'm looking at a 0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:33.399 Mario but Tally cookbook, I mean great cook obviously, you know, 0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:35.880 a great guy, great cook. But a lot of times 0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:37.960 like basically going down to the town. You're going down 0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:42.320 to a high end Italian Delhi, buying three or four things, 0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:44.399 coming home and mixing them together, and it's like you 0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:46.760 didn't make any of that jump, like you didn't make 0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:49.880 the panchatta. You know, it's like you're just like compiling 0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:51.879 things that someone else made for you. This is like 0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:56.880 real cooking, ground up full balls, from scratch cooking. All 0:24:56.920 --> 0:25:00.760 that being said, I feel like they're not overly complicated 0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:03.040 like everyone that I've tried out of here, you know, 0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:05.040 read through a couple of times, I'm like, all right, 0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:08.800 I can do this. The restes lay a foundation for 0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:12.119 just understanding how to work with wild game. Right, if 0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:14.120 you weren't doing cooked all the things in here, you'd 0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:16.080 be like, I get it, because if you do, like 0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:20.840 The Big Sky Roasted Head, which is based off a mountain, 0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:23.000 my favorite mountain, one of my favorite mountain man books, 0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:29.400 The Big Skuy by Guthrie Um, he always talked about 0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:31.520 his characters in this book loved to roast mule of 0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:33.879 your heads. So we had a great roast mule of 0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:38.159 your head recipe where you're basically taking like you know, 0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:40.679 it's it's like a it's a taco dish with some 0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.520 jowl meat. Once you roast the head for that thing, 0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:46.680 you'll never look at a head, pig, head, any kind 0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:48.360 of head the same way. Again. You'd be like, man, 0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:51.240 there is some treasure inside that head. You might not 0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.159 go and make the tacos I describing the book, but 0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:56.480 you're gonna learn a lot about something that you've been 0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:58.720 throwing in the you know, out in the woods or 0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:00.879 in a dumpster for a long time. So it's meid 0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:05.600 like build up ones foundation. Um, you wanted to talk 0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:11.880 about top of photographer Jnath. Yeah, Well, starting with the 0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:15.400 butchering section, I feel like I've looked through a lot 0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:19.520 of other books have talked about butchering, you know, animals, 0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:23.320 game animals and whatnot, and uh, it seems like it's 0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:26.879 like great pictures without having the writing to explain it 0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:29.359 or vice versa, but not really both together. And I 0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:31.960 feel like we did a great job of you can 0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:33.800 read it. And if you don't quite understand that, you 0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.119 look right next to that and there's the image that 0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:38.800 you're like, oh, all right, that's that's what they're talking about. 0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:42.760 There's that that pelvit crest you know they need to 0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:46.000 chop out to, you know, to pull the uh, the 0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:47.800 guts all the way through the animals. Yeah, no, I 0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:49.399 think they're good. And we put a ton of embass 0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:51.959 on that. And like someone on our team, Brittany Brothers, actually, 0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:53.800 I mean over all those years on top about we 0:26:53.840 --> 0:27:00.439 worked on this, she was during all that time we're 0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:03.960 writing this book, is operating and large as like a 0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:08.879 photo editor to help find and pull out the best 0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:12.240 images to explain everything we explained here. There's a beauty 0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:15.720 quality to it too, because we use a uh, very 0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:22.960 prominent hunting photographer named John Halfer. We hired John when 0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:25.080 we're doing the recipe shoots, so we rented a house 0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:28.719 and went up for a week and just cooked and 0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:32.480 tested recipes, photographed recipes. Halfner did that, So all the 0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:34.719 food stuff is John halferin working. If you go look 0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:37.040 up John Halfter, you're gonna see like some hunting stuff 0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.879 that will blow your mind. John halfern shot all that 0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:42.399 at the same time, just out of the goodness of 0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:48.720 this dude's heart, he opened up his vast catalog of 0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:54.359 hunting images and wildlife images. Yeah, it rivals like anything 0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.720 you see in Nagio. I feel like just going to 0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.439 his website and just cruise around and look at his 0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:04.440 images and um, you'll find yourself just lost and burning time, 0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:08.480 you know, and just taking to different far away places. Yeah. Yeah, 0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:10.840 After likes to hunt. Man like, he likes to hunt. 0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:12.959 But he's even said to me he'd rather he likes 0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:17.480 to hunt with the camera, you know, likes the photograph wildlife, 0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:19.520 and so we have a lot of great wildlife imagery 0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:23.480 in here. Also the gear like so like jump backtop 0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:26.800 about the gear stuff. We kind of like kick off 0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:31.440 the gear section with a quote by even though it's 0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:35.840 just trash talking gun writers, we kick off the gear 0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:37.600 section of the quote by a gun writer that I 0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:42.479 do admire greatly, Chuck Hark, the one and only. Let 0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:44.120 me ask you a quick question, though, Are there any 0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:45.840 others right now? You can just name off the type 0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:48.920 of your head that you do admire. Did I admire 0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:52.160 wore like a gun writer? No? And I'll tell you 0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.720 why I'm gonna read the quote that kicks off the 0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:59.200 gear section. I'm gonna read Chuck Hawks's quote. Don't be 0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:03.479 intimidated by anyone's experience, including mine. There have been, and 0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:07.040 still are a few good writers with vast experience in 0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:10.880 the firearms field. There are also plenty of plain old 0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:14.000 fools writing about guns and shooting, and plenty of younger 0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:18.600 fools as well. Gun writers, especially those who have to 0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:23.920 produce a regular column, love controversy. That column becomes a 0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:26.720 beast that must be fed every month. So the columnists 0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:30.080 is always hungry for something to write about, and controversial 0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:35.040 ideas generate reader interest in response. Perhaps it is understandable 0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:40.400 if they sometimes go overboard, Just don't go overboard with them. 0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:43.000 The reason I put that the head of the gear section, 0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:47.960 I can't remember who did you find that quote? I 0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:53.440 don't Chuck Hawks actually contributed to volume two or Truck 0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:56.000 Hawks writes this great treatise on the double deuce to 0:29:56.040 --> 0:30:00.400 twenty two, most popular cartridge ever. He writes a great 0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:05.040 piece breaking down the history and versatility and different ammunition 0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:08.200 options for a small game hunter of the twenty two, 0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:11.320 and it was great. He's the most reasonable gun writer 0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.959 out there, and it's funny that his quote kind of 0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:17.800 like takes a staff at his profession, because it is. 0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.360 It's true. If you open up those things, like you know, 0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:24.760 like newsletters, you get to be like ten overrated cartridges, 0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:30.640 ten underrated cartridges, ten sleeper long range cartridges. It's just 0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:33.560 like what in the world. So we try to cut 0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:40.040 through in the gear section. It's just all the noise, okay, 0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:41.959 because to be honest with you, this is gonna make 0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:45.520 guys cringe, and it's something that people fight about in bars, 0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:47.440 you know, to be honest with you, a lot of 0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:53.960 the distinctions to get drawn between calibers that, let me 0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:56.560 put it different, there's a ton of distinctions and debate 0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:02.080 happening between calibers that are just like you really can't 0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:06.320 tell them apart in a hunting standpoint. No, it's just 0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:08.520 like people like, yeah, I really can't decide between the 0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:12.920 then the It's all it's fighting over nuances. You're fighting 0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:19.560 over very little. And it's like if you're taking reasonable shots, 0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:26.400 you know, if you become aware of your capabilities and 0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:31.120 you're realistic about your capabilities and you're putting your shots 0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:35.520 through luans, it's just like people are writing and debating 0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.959 about points that are just pointless. Well, I think they 0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:41.200 should be taking all that energy to talk about their 0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:47.880 damn boots, right or yes, yeah, so much other stuff 0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:50.560 about the calibers where it's the bullet construction or taking 0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:52.800 time to you know, learn about shot places and wherever 0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:54.640 it might be. But I think it comes down to 0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:58.880 just like basic ignorance because people started fighting about caliber's. Yeah, 0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:01.600 I had a guy the other day that did not 0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:05.920 know that the thirty six and the three wind mag 0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:09.960 shoot the exact same bullet. If you choose a hundred 0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:14.080 grain thirty Cober bullet or eighty grain three Cober bullet, 0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:15.800 you can put that same bullet and either one of 0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:17.640 those two cartridges, just put it down, you know, the 0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:20.640 barrel of the respective gun. But people just look at 0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.280 one that says Magnum behind it and they think, oh, man, 0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:25.680 you know, I'm just like I'm throwing a grenade at 0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:28.560 the animal versus just the old Pidley thirty at six. Well, 0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:31.000 it's just not the case. One bullet. The only difference 0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:33.280 really when it comes down to shoot that animals, that 0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:36.160 one bullet might be moving a hundred feet or tunder 0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:43.040 feet faster that. That's exactly the kind of information that 0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:50.240 try to put in here is like helping people cut 0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:55.440 through some of the noise and make good gear decisions 0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:58.480 without getting bogged down in details. They don't want to 0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:01.720 get bogged down it. But that doesn't mean that it's 0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:04.440 like the thing I focused on on these books and 0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:08.840 we talked about constantly is there not for beginners exclusively, 0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:12.520 and they're not for experts exclusively. Every page in here 0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:18.560 is gonna have something that's gonna surprise you because the 0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:25.840 books give you opinions, right. You get Janice's opinion put 0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:28.840 forth as an opinion on issues, you get my opinion 0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:31.600 put forth as an opinion on issues, and you'll get 0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:37.320 opinions given as such, given as personal opinions from many 0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:39.920 of the best hunters I've been lucky to meet around 0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:43.719 the country. The book is full of sections called ways 0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:46.280 in on where like so and so like Chuck Hawks 0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:50.480 weighs in on the twenty two Yanni tell Us weighs 0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:57.440 in on his regiment his yeah, his regiment for practicing 0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:01.320 archery ahead of a hunt. How would you put it? Um? Yeah, 0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:05.480 just the preparation the basically the summer prior kind of 0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:07.920 the year prior preparation. How do you know when you're 0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:10.000 ready for a bow hunt? Basically? Like, yeah, how do 0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:11.279 you know when you're ready to go on a bull hunt? 0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:13.560 For real? Yeah? But I want to make a note 0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:15.520 on that all the ways in I feel like it's 0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:20.319 so reflective of how one becomes a hunter, becomes a 0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:24.040 good hunter on their own because I've had so many mentors, 0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:25.200 you know, I can just saw the top of my 0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:28.480 head list twenty mentors that have all been weighing in 0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:33.520 on me for you know, thirty years, and you just 0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:35.439 take a little bit here, take a little bit there, 0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.799 and you kind of formulate your own program, you know, 0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:40.200 and then eventually, you know, you can weigh in on 0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:43.040 you know, that that certain subject. But that's how I 0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:44.600 feel like this book is, you know, you can just 0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:46.839 go through there and you know, pick a little bit 0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.319 from all these different people and then you know, go 0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:53.640 forth on your own. Yeah, that's the point trying to 0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:58.160 make again and again, it's like, don't discount the information 0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.840 that you already know to be true. Like I would 0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:05.240 never say, like, oh, pick this up and drop everything 0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:07.160 you found to be true, because this is the real truth. 0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:11.240 It's just different. It just it we're learning hunting works 0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:13.680 differently than that. Yeah, and the subject is too vast, 0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:18.120 too ever to do that. I used to always I 0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:21.280 mean like I saw you shoot run into Carlac bullets, laot, 0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:23.640 many things were great, love, I've never had a problem, 0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:26.839 and eventually like grew suspicious of the bullet just because 0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:28.680 people are talking about other bullets. I'm like, well, there's 0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:33.680 must be something wrong with my own findings. Don't fall 0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:38.600 into that trap. Like if it works for you, it works, 0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:43.200 But this is gonna help you inform your thinking. And 0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:44.880 it also gets into stuff like even though we're just 0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:48.440 kind of like laughing about these endless controversies about what 0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:53.160 caliber's best. We have a big section called cartridge normanclature 0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:57.360 that breaks down what all these things mean. When you 0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:00.239 hear people say they were out shooting at seventy four 0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:04.280 oh five, or you know the difference between the millimeter 0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:08.160 cartridges and the standard like three oh eight cartridges, the 0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:11.319 seven six two by thirty nine, Like how to understand 0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:14.800 these numbers and how to have a conversation with people 0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:16.520 and when they name things, how do they get what 0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:19.120 they're talking about? Not just because you memorize each particular 0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:21.480 cartridge and what it means, but how to make sense 0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:24.839 out of the numerical system used to describe cartridges. Right, 0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:27.080 Maybe that stuff you need to be a better hunter, 0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:29.320 but stuff you just need to be able to process 0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:33.800 information better when you're seeing it. Um A lot of 0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:39.720 stuff about rifle scopes, defining the terms that you see 0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:42.759 when you buy rifle scopes and the terms you see 0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:46.279 when you buy binoculars, and making sense out of what 0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:49.120 those terms mean, which ones are important and which ones 0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:55.120 are not. A section on muzzle loaders, including an explanation 0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:58.480 of why you should if you're a versatile, well rounded 0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:00.600 big game hunter. And that's really what the books trying 0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:02.440 to make it a was a versatile, well rounded big 0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:05.880 game hunter. Why you should probably think real seriously about 0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:08.799 getting in the most loader hunting if you haven't already. Yeah, 0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:11.399 and what look, just looking at that muzzle latter page 0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:13.879 makes me think of something because I've just looked through 0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:18.160 the first twenty pages here, and there are companies and 0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:21.960 brands across the board. I think that's important to note that, like, 0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:29.240 we weren't held to anybody's check when we were writing this, 0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:37.680 this was done completely independently um. No company, even companies 0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:43.040 I have great relationships with. No company had the door 0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:49.280 into this book open to them. You will find recommendations 0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:54.239 for things across the board. You'll find images of many 0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:59.120 different types of gear. It's not it's just not a catalog. 0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:04.080 Don't worry about that. A very thorough explanation of m 0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:08.240 o A. What minute of angle means, how it applies 0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:12.400 to you in your life. Rifle cleaning, A heavy section 0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:16.200 on archery equipment, making sense of archery equipment, coming through 0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:21.000 the bs of archery equipment and arrows and broadheads. Field 0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:26.640 maintenance kits. A heavy section on hunting optics. How to 0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:28.719 select optics, what they mean, What you need on a 0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:31.280 backpack hunt. What you can do without on a backpack hunt. 0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:34.080 How to decide if you want a X or ten 0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:37.319 X binoculars, and the choice really kind of comes down 0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:40.080 to that unless you already have a good pair. How 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:45.120 to make sense of range finders. Big thing about blade tools. 0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:48.719 What blade tools you need on backpack and back country hunts? 0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:53.520 What blade tools you never leave home without? Survival kits 0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:57.520 and utility kits. I don't even use the word survival 0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:00.239 kit anymore, because my kit a utility kit, I carry 0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:03.400 that thing I could be hunting like cranes in Texas 0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:07.120 or doll sheep in Alaska. I have a little baggy 0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:09.520 that I switch out what's in it, but just my 0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:13.719 utility kit. It's my emergency kit. And you can have 0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:18.759 emergencies such as like a broken gun anywhere. So how 0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:24.560 to have a kit that you are constantly upgrading and 0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:30.000 adapting for what you're doing that almost eliminates or can 0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:34.040 help eliminate the panic you have when you realize that 0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.759 you should have something and you don't have it with you. 0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:44.480 Maps and navigation tools. A very healthy spirited section on apparel, 0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:49.920 How to layer your clothes, how to make decisions between 0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:55.800 synthetics and wolves. Is camel clothing and scent control clothing 0:39:56.640 --> 0:40:01.120 worth the expense? The answer is more comp located. Then 0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:06.799 you might think a lot of stuff about staying warm, 0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:12.640 a lot of stuff about boots, including my opinion that footwear, 0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:19.520 no foot problems ruin more hunts than any other problem. 0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:22.280 When I think of people just having a bad time 0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:25.240 on a hunt or having to call off a hunt, 0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:30.080 footwear causes that. Yeah, And that's definitely a little more 0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:35.799 true towards like Western Mountain hunting, even freezing your ass 0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:39.640 hunting ducks in Michigan. Right, you gotta have the right 0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:42.439 footwear to keep your feet warming, for sure. Yeah, but yeah, 0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:46.200 the blisters and issues mountain hunts, for sure. But just 0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:51.960 like feet problems kill people, feet ruined hunts. What doesn't 0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:54.160 ruin a hunt is that man, I brought my thirty 0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:56.120 OT six and should have brought my three hundred. That's 0:40:56.120 --> 0:41:00.239 just not in real life. That's not a conversation. You 0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:04.400 hear what you here is, dude, I should have listened 0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:06.800 to you when you said that I should break my 0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:08.680 boots in for real before I go on this trip. 0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:11.840 What a waterproof from probably and know how to do 0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:13.760 it because my feet have been went for three days 0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:17.080 and I want to go home. Yanni's wonderful section on 0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:22.360 waterproof and boots the tools necessary, then a big section 0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:28.080 specific to back country hunting because it's like I find 0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:34.319 that many guys, like in my age group, my level 0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:37.520 interest in hunting that live in the East want to 0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:39.600 do in their life. You know, they want to do 0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:41.360 some bad country hunts. Man. They want to go on 0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:48.480 that Colorado LK hunt, you know, And it's intimidating to 0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:52.359 like get into like what do I really need? What 0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:54.799 do you carry? What is actually in your pack on 0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:57.040 a backpack hunt? And I think that this will help 0:41:57.120 --> 0:42:03.520 immensely and it's not pushing one product over another. I'm 0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:05.759 looking at a page here right now. I'm looking at 0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:09.200 an outdoorsments pack system and our carricks pack system, a 0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:14.120 mystery ranch pack system, pros and cons of each. But 0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:18.800 basically it's grabbing good gear that I like and that 0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:21.920 my friends like, and kind of rather than boring you 0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:23.960 with the stuff that doesn't work, it's like the stuff 0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:29.920 that does work for people, Why it works for people? Um, Stuff, 0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:34.200 unloading a pack okay, how to handle big weights on 0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:36.120 a pack, how to pack when you're going out that 0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:38.359 you know you might be coming back heavy with game, 0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:47.320 Sleeping in shelter okay, Tents, bags, sleeping pads, bibby sacks. 0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:51.000 Are they a waste of money or not? I would 0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:53.399 say yeah, I'm telling you why I think that they're 0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:56.120 a waste of money. Keeping warm at night and you're 0:42:56.120 --> 0:43:00.919 sleeping bag camp stoves I'm talking for truck hunt, car 0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:04.960 camping to backpack hunting. Pros and cons of stoves, how 0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:07.160 to use them, how to manage them, how to pack 0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:10.919 food for a hunt. A simple way. You can run 0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:13.800 into a grocery store, run into a sporting good store 0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:16.480 and go bam bam bam, and know that you are 0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:19.680 equipped with food for however long you're gonna be out 0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:23.800 car camping or backpack hunting. Like just a simple fail 0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:28.359 proof system of grabbing food for a hunt where you're 0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:30.239 not gonna run out and you're not gonna come back 0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:33.440 with a bunch of spoiled stuff. You never hate cookwere 0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:39.480 how to handle fire and water meaning purification of water, 0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:42.440 how to get fires when you need them despite then 0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:46.400 you know, whatever the conditions. A very graphic picture of 0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:51.759 a crushed finger in back country Risks stand Safe in 0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:59.040 the back country now Section two Tactics and Strategy. Yanni 0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:04.000 walk them through section too. This was gonna include the highlights, 0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:07.120 the stuff that like kind of what's in there, some 0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:11.680 surprising things. I feel like this is where I maybe 0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:16.839 learned the most because my main hunting career started, you know, 0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:18.879 once I moved to Colorado at the age of nine, 0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:23.120 team started guiding alkhins and on the same spot all 0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:24.480 the time, and it was shown to me, you know, 0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:27.799 because that's where I had to guide where you I 0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:30.520 think it came out west and we're not guiding, we're 0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:34.040 just hunting on your own. And so you just you know, 0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:37.800 learned a larger chunk and ground and had to figure 0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:40.600 out on your own how to find these sweet honey 0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:42.680 hooles that I was pretty much you know, shown too, 0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:45.160 and so I feel like you did a great job. 0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:50.440 But really just breaking down like a um a method 0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:54.120 of you know, looking at maps, talking to people, plat 0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:56.839 maps and whatever, and little tricks to like go and 0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:59.839 find your own honey holes, which is you know, that's 0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:02.239 something that's an important thing I got into with this, 0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:05.120 and I talking about public and private land, how to 0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:08.480 get permissions on private land, mainly how to find spots 0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:10.279 on public land, because I find that a lot of 0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:12.399 guys have a vulnerability, Like you got a guy likes 0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:14.239 to hunt. I've had a lot of friends fall on 0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:16.280 this trap. Man. They like the hunt. They got this spot. 0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:19.319 They hunt deer, right, nicolare every deer in the over day. 0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:20.880 They shoot a deer and as their spot. Then all 0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:23.640 of a sudden something happens. The guy that owns it dies, 0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:29.560 sells it, his his nephew gets old. Yeah, the guy 0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:32.560 moved Yeah, that's only happened. Your buddy moves and they 0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:34.799 never hunt again because they never figured out like how 0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:38.200 to find hunting spots. It's like, oh, I helped my 0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:40.600 mother in law's place, you know, and then what do 0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:42.480 you get a divorce? You have a mother in law anymore? 0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:44.640 And then it just hang it up because they can't 0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:49.120 fathom the process of beginning to find hunting locations. Oh man, 0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:52.239 And I'm going through it firsthand right now, like you 0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:54.600 wouldn't believe. I'm living that every day. I mean, I 0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:57.279 moved to Montana, yes, and less than a year ago. 0:45:57.680 --> 0:46:00.239 It's my first year lived as a resident in that state. 0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:02.920 I've got a pocket full of tags, and yet I'm 0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:05.719 looking at these maps and I'm like, I mean, I 0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:07.520 have places that I'm gonna go and I'm gonna hunt 0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:09.440 because I've figured it out, But like, I don't have 0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:15.080 anything on my map circle that says go here, proven location, 0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:18.920 so you know, and that's the thing to do. I 0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:21.000 get into is like a lot of like not sneaky, 0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:23.080 but a lot of things that people don't think about 0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:26.120 trying totally. And I think that shows up even more 0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:29.440 in the private land section because so many people I 0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.759 think I don't know why now, it's it's that way 0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:34.680 when you know, twenty years ago everybody's went knocked on doors. 0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:36.960 But like people, I feel like, just don't do it 0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:40.040 as much anymore, and don't think about trying to go 0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:43.960 and find a free private land hunting spot like they're 0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.279 out there and I got yeah, and I include in 0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:50.560 here some strategies for doing that, such ASTHM, it's the 0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:52.839 thing that's worked for me many times. As you get 0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:55.520 your foot in the door with a squirrel hunting or 0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:59.000 rabbit hunting permission, yeah, totally that you request in the 0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:01.800 winter time when that guy's not getting his door beaten 0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:05.160 down by people, and you proved to be a cool 0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:09.239 guy who like comes out to hunt squirrels, knows how 0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:11.920 to respect the property, knows how to close the gates 0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:14.200 a little bit there, it goes a long way next 0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:17.600 to you know, guy brings the guy some zucchini bread, right, 0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:20.400 cook some kind of cool thing with the with the 0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:24.040 rabbits that he got off the guy's property, brings him 0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:26.840 by a little bit of that. Maybe even emails the 0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:28.759 dude a couple of pictures saying, hey, man, I thought 0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:31.960 you'd like to see um, the awesome dinner I made 0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:34.640 with the squirrels I shot on your place. And he's 0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:37.160 thinking that crazy, some bitch ate those squirrels. I like 0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:40.960 that guy. And pretty soon he's saying to you, you 0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:43.960 know what, you know, if you you know, we got 0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:45.239 room out here, you know, if you want to come 0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:48.880 out and hunt deer, you know, go ahead. Yea. And 0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:51.200 again maybe it starts with a couple of does, but 0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:53.440 then two years down the line, you gotta look down 0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:55.160 the line and look into the future. And next thing 0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:57.200 you know, he's like, sure you can shoot a buck, 0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:02.839 because it's happened to me many times. Yeah. I got 0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:04.880 a guy. He's a friend of mine, but he's a 0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:07.520 he's a landowner, and I've been out to his place 0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:09.440 the hunt a few times. And after a while he 0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:13.480 noticed that I never actually really shot anything on this place. 0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:16.440 I'd kind of go out there just to kind of like, 0:48:16.440 --> 0:48:17.759 I'd be like, I'm gonna come up, but I'd want 0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:20.040 up hanging out and doing stuff with him. You know. 0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:22.440 That kind of won his heart in a way. I 0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:24.720 also tell just a couple of actual stories about stuff, 0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:28.799 but also public land tricks you might not think of, 0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:30.279 like something I like to do, and I've done with 0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:34.560 some success now and then is be undercover in interview 0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:39.640 hikers at trailheads, not telling them what you're actually trying 0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:41.560 to drive at, but just talking to like, hey, what 0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:47.000 do you see? What do you hear? You know, do 0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:49.400 you guys see any blank up there? And you can 0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:52.280 get some up to date information that if you jumped 0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:56.600 out and said, yeah, I'm hunting Dad kept quiet. Sneaky 0:48:56.680 --> 0:49:00.799 little things many of them how to read apps, a 0:49:00.800 --> 0:49:04.680 bit about using trail cameras, and the main thing how 0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:06.960 to access areas other guys are accessing. And I don't 0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:08.360 mean because it's way off in the mountains. It just 0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:12.080 could be because you know, you're like parking, you know, 0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:15.319 alongside of power line and your hammer and ducks are 0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:17.719 in this case big game, your hand, your hammer and 0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:19.840 deer and some spot that guys aren't hung They never 0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:22.040 thought to bring a pair of chess waiters with them. 0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:24.080 And the first thing you gotta do is wait across 0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:27.080 a couple of big ditches and also realized no one's 0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:29.040 going over there. They all go into the other direction 0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:30.719 because it's like they want to get away from the car. 0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:37.160 Almost almost fought you on publishing that little tip because 0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:40.360 I know I know guys that do it, and literally 0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:42.480 they takes them an extra ten minutes of getting up 0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:44.760 earlier in the morning to in that way. They can 0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:47.520 put them on across the river, take them off. They 0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:50.840 stash under a tree, and they have haunting grounds that 0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:54.520 are just like under people's noses. But people are like, oh, river, 0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:58.600 keep driving. Can't get across that thing. You know, if 0:49:58.640 --> 0:50:01.480 you hunt white tail or, you hunt pheasants and stuff, 0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:03.839 and you don't have chess waiters sitting in the back 0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:06.480 of your truck, your awn moron. Yeah, A big thing 0:50:06.480 --> 0:50:11.920 about tags and licenses, just kind of breaking down tag draws. 0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:15.959 It's the thing people are always wondered about. Breaks down 0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:19.520 over the counter stuff, How over the counter stuff works, 0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:24.879 How registration hunts work, how stuff like governor's auctions. Are 0:50:24.920 --> 0:50:28.719 governor's tags good or bad? We talked about that and 0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:31.680 kick that issue a long um. I'm talking like in 0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:33.960 an ethical way. How do you feel about governor's auctions? 0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:37.440 How you feel or like how to work? Now? How 0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:40.360 you feel about how to work what's called landowner tags? 0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:44.360 How to play the points game for dream hunts in 0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:48.200 Western states? What are the toughest, coolest tags you could 0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:52.440 possibly draw. M hm. I researched that little piece and 0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:55.680 that was interesting to me and someone that haunts a 0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:59.480 lot to really see what are some of the toughest 0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:01.759 tags draw that you know most of us will never 0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:04.520 ever draw. But I was surprised to find one on 0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:07.400 the east coast of the country, and I'll keep that 0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:10.240 a surprise for you. Then we get into the methods, 0:51:11.960 --> 0:51:14.560 and it starts off with spot and spot spots and 0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:18.279 stock hunting, and I feel like this is it's a 0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:22.520 basic overview if each one of these methods, but there 0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:24.759 are points where it gets so detailed that I can't 0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:27.040 call it just a basic overview of spot and stock 0:51:27.120 --> 0:51:32.640 hunting anymore. UM got a map that shows you a 0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:36.360 great way to already pick your glassing locations before you 0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:40.840 ever even set foot in the country. UM. All different 0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:43.520 kinds of stuff on glass ng how to how to 0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:47.160 use different methods of glassing, whether it's like how to 0:51:47.200 --> 0:51:50.480 work or patch ground the pair of binoculars. Like you 0:51:50.520 --> 0:51:53.520 sit down and here's like three sixty degrees of terrain. 0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:57.359 You don't glass it like you think you'll just sit 0:51:57.400 --> 0:51:59.360 down and be like, oh, let start looking around my binoculars. 0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:02.239 It just doesn't work that way. There's a system, there's 0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:05.320 a way you break up the landscape and prioritize the 0:52:05.400 --> 0:52:10.520 landscape and study it and chunks and that's explained here. 0:52:14.760 --> 0:52:16.520 I mean you mean you right now just lost in 0:52:16.680 --> 0:52:19.400 uh in reading? Yeah, we're just looking at the pretty 0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:23.560 pictures binals versus spot and scopes. When is each appropriate 0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:26.440 for spotting stock hunting? Things like what do people talk 0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:29.160 about when I say you're gonna put them to bed? Okay? 0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:32.719 Or how to plan stocks on animals you found? You 0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:34.719 see them go into their bedding area, you see them 0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:37.400 go into their feeding area, how to pattern their movements, 0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:43.439 how to plan stocks according to wind intopography? Big issue. Yeah, 0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:47.880 actual actual diagrams and pictures showing that stuff, Like, hey, 0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:52.520 here's a picture. This is actual place that I saw 0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:55.640 an elk, I made a stock, This is how I did, 0:52:55.680 --> 0:52:58.800 This is what the wind was doing. And um it 0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:00.439 just hammers at home, you know when you can see 0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:02.959 it in a picture like that. How the wind behaves 0:53:03.640 --> 0:53:07.680 on a mountain like you always have like wind direction right, 0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:11.600 but the wind gets squirreling in the mountains due to 0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:14.960 thermals and the structure of a mountain and how to 0:53:15.080 --> 0:53:17.880 like make predictions about what the wind's gonna be doing 0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:24.200 and things that override dominant wind conditions. Okay, detailed stuff, 0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:27.000 but very important. And anyone who's hunting in the mountains, 0:53:27.080 --> 0:53:30.879 especially the bow, is gonna know exactly what we're talking about. 0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:34.160 This is gonna make sense of some of the observations 0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:35.799 they may have had or some of things they didn't 0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:40.799 put together. Ambush hunting. Yeah, I love our illustration here, 0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:43.000 and we've got to give a shout out to Pizza 0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:46.960 Chevski because he did an incredible job with our illustrations. 0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:51.960 And it's basically just an illustration showing six different ambush points, funnels, 0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:55.040 pinch points, whatever you want to call them. And you're 0:53:55.040 --> 0:53:58.080 probably never gonna see exactly what one of these looks like. 0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:00.280 But when you look at the whole overall illustration ation, 0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:03.520 you get the idea of, Okay, when I'm in the woods, 0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:07.200 this is what I'm looking for. This, you know, this 0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:09.439 would be a great place to set up an ambush. Yeah, 0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:14.040 like how to anticipate funnels and pinch points. I learned 0:54:14.040 --> 0:54:16.680 to start thinking about game in terms of funnels and 0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:19.320 pinch points when I was a fur trapper because in 0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:22.080 the fir trap you're looking at a grand scale. Okay, 0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:24.880 how are animals just gonna move across the landscape? But 0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:26.759 at the same time, how are you going to get 0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:29.279 them to place their foot on a one and a 0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:33.280 quarter inch circle a trap pan? So I really started 0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:34.840 to think about stuff that way. I also started to 0:54:34.840 --> 0:54:36.600 be like, why do always catch fox here? Not there? 0:54:37.400 --> 0:54:40.040 And you step back and look at aerial photography and 0:54:40.040 --> 0:54:42.440 you're like, oh, man, I can't believe. I never realized 0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:47.320 that this power line or gas line connects all this 0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:51.839 different agricultural land and the animal can basically run down 0:54:51.920 --> 0:54:54.840 this power line and hit farm to farm to farm 0:54:54.840 --> 0:54:58.279 to farm, you know, and and travel on a clear path. 0:54:58.440 --> 0:55:00.359 And you go like, that's why there's always five there. 0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:03.200 It's not because like whatever, how the fields laid out 0:55:03.239 --> 0:55:06.520 is because he got put there by his path, you know, 0:55:06.680 --> 0:55:08.759 by the best way for him to travel the landscape. 0:55:09.239 --> 0:55:13.400 So stop on that. Where we at with time about 0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:18.040 fifty minutes? All right, everyone, I know you're enjoying the 0:55:18.040 --> 0:55:21.160 Meat Eater podcast, and you're especially enjoying it because it's free. 0:55:21.239 --> 0:55:22.840 And to keep it that way, we gotta take a 0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:29.560 quick break to thank our sponsors. Still hunting, Yanni had 0:55:29.800 --> 0:55:32.240 you don't he worked because Jean he's a still hunter, 0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:37.520 like he likes a still hunt for elt. And we 0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:41.640 get into how still hunting is different than just walking 0:55:41.680 --> 0:55:45.319 around in the woods m hm, which essentially what it 0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:48.120 is and why I love it is love taking very long, 0:55:48.600 --> 0:55:53.080 slow walk through the woods with rifle in hand. But yeah, 0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:59.640 it breaks it down. Decoys and calling another very detailed, 0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:05.400 you know, long and and again these are the basics 0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:12.480 in each uh species by species section. We revisit decoys 0:56:12.480 --> 0:56:16.120 and calling for elk, we revisit spot stock hunting for elk, 0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:19.400 and you'll actually find more words written in that section, 0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:22.799 you know, specifically you know, to that animal about spot 0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:25.439 stockhunning that you do here in the basics section. Yeah. 0:56:25.480 --> 0:56:27.040 That's the thing that I want to point out about 0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:28.640 the books, like, if you get into the books start 0:56:28.680 --> 0:56:32.080 reading them, is you can't just be like, oh, I 0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:33.799 like to hunt elk, therefore I'll skip ahead and read 0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:36.719 the elk section. It just doesn't work that way. If 0:56:36.760 --> 0:56:41.279 you are if you just hunt white tails, I would 0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:44.920 still suggest that you read the entire book because you 0:56:44.960 --> 0:56:51.279 will constantly find insights and ideas everywhere in this book, 0:56:51.280 --> 0:56:54.239 they're going to pertain to your life, your type of honey. 0:56:54.840 --> 0:56:58.360 As a great example, Jay Scott and Dark Holborn of 0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:02.120 Cobner Scott alfres A in on judging big horn rams. 0:57:02.680 --> 0:57:07.719 The way that these guys methodically go about doing this 0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:10.400 for big horn rams, you could take the exact state 0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:13.439 principles and apply it to any other animal if you're 0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:17.560 into you know, judging, you know, uh antler size or 0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:19.600 whatever it might be. And these guys have to know 0:57:19.760 --> 0:57:23.240 this because they're sheep guides. And when they get a 0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:25.520 high paying client that comes in and he wants a 0:57:25.600 --> 0:57:29.240 sheep of ex caliber, it's these guys that eventually say 0:57:29.320 --> 0:57:33.960 that's the one you're after. And their livelihood, you know, 0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:36.840 they're like business depends on their ability to say, like 0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:38.880 what that thing is. So to hear them talk about 0:57:38.880 --> 0:57:41.960 how to look at an animal. If you like to 0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:44.760 hunt bears, and and you don't care about shooting record 0:57:44.760 --> 0:57:46.360 book bear, you just don't want to be surprised and 0:57:46.400 --> 0:57:49.480 walk up and realize you shot like a seventy pound 0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:53.400 one year old female because you'd rather have two hundred 0:57:53.400 --> 0:57:57.479 pounds of meat. Learning their idea about how you look 0:57:57.600 --> 0:58:00.520 at an animal, how you compare animals to other animals. 0:58:00.560 --> 0:58:03.400 How you make these decisions is gonna apply to your 0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:06.120 life as well. Or you might be in the area 0:58:06.640 --> 0:58:10.000 where you have certain requirements you have to meet. It's 0:58:10.000 --> 0:58:11.840 gotta be a brow time bowl. Brow time has gotta 0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:13.439 be six inches long to be able to kill elk. 0:58:13.520 --> 0:58:15.800 Elk's gotta be a branch antler bull. It's got to 0:58:15.840 --> 0:58:19.040 be a full curl sheep to be legal. Right. How 0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:21.360 to look at animals and not just be blown away 0:58:21.360 --> 0:58:22.960 in surprise when you see him, but how to look 0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:29.200 at them you know objectively and make determinations about the size, age, 0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:33.000 characteristics of the animal you're looking at. A lot about 0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:36.600 drive hunting. I grew up drive hunting for white tails. 0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:38.560 There's a big part every year, a few days you 0:58:38.640 --> 0:58:40.840 spend drive hunt for white tails. How to do a 0:58:40.960 --> 0:58:43.160 drive hunt, how to try to pull off drive hunts 0:58:43.200 --> 0:58:47.360 in the mountains where it's very difficult, And then a 0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:49.680 lot of things. I'm being a backpack hunter. Earlier we 0:58:49.680 --> 0:58:53.040 talked about back country gear. Here we talked about back 0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:58.000 country living. How to camp in the back country on 0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:01.520 a hunt and not ruin your own hunt chances by 0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:04.000 leaving too much of a footprint. How to deal with 0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:10.720 grizzlies making the shot. A lot of information about shot 0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:15.080 placement for Big Game, about actually shooting and marksmanship, different 0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:17.160 types of rusts. How to aim on animals in a 0:59:17.240 --> 0:59:21.000 variety of positions. How to decide what sort of hold 0:59:21.160 --> 0:59:23.240 on an animal you need according to where it is 0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:28.040 and what it's doing. Shots not to take, how to track, 0:59:28.720 --> 0:59:31.040 how to you know blood trail, How to look at 0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:33.080 a patch of blood and cellt tell what you're looking at, 0:59:33.920 --> 0:59:35.640 whether you did a good job or a bad job. 0:59:35.720 --> 0:59:39.600 What you might anticipate happening. How to read an arrow 0:59:41.080 --> 0:59:42.920 after you When you find your arrow after shot, what 0:59:42.960 --> 0:59:45.480 does that arrow tell you about your hit? And now 0:59:45.720 --> 0:59:47.880 that it's not just like, oh, what's gonna It's not 0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:49.560 just like looking into a crystal ball. It's gonna tell 0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:51.400 you how to behave according to what you see on 0:59:51.440 --> 0:59:55.480 that arrow. How long to wait, why you're waiting, the 0:59:55.600 --> 1:00:03.640 risks of waiting, How to make decisions. Big Game section alphabetical. 1:00:03.840 --> 1:00:06.920 We start with antelope. Each section like this. You like 1:00:07.000 --> 1:00:13.320 the antilope section. It's got basics. Okay, we have each 1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:15.320 animal has a bar room banch. We'll tell you something 1:00:15.320 --> 1:00:18.240 surprising about the animal you do not know. Barroom banter 1:00:18.320 --> 1:00:19.760 is meant to make you a cooler guy to talk 1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:23.040 to at a bar. Could you be able to tell you, like, 1:00:23.200 --> 1:00:25.200 you know what, I'll tell you one thing and you'll 1:00:25.200 --> 1:00:27.400 tell the person the thing you read in barroom bands 1:00:27.400 --> 1:00:33.160 and they'll be like, no, ship, Yeah, diet, life and death, 1:00:34.800 --> 1:00:37.200 how long only live in? What kills him is life 1:00:37.200 --> 1:00:41.080 and death, Breeding and reproduction? How that goes down for him? 1:00:41.280 --> 1:00:45.600 Kind of habitats. They'd like telltale signs, they'd like distribution, 1:00:46.320 --> 1:00:49.440 So it's your classic where it lives. What's cool about 1:00:49.480 --> 1:00:51.760 that is next to that is hunting opportunity State by 1:00:51.760 --> 1:00:55.800 state hunting opportunities map. Where it breaks down that animal 1:00:55.840 --> 1:00:58.439 not just in his distribution, but whether it's what weather. 1:00:58.560 --> 1:01:04.520 Hunting opportunities in a state are widely available, of limited availability, 1:01:05.720 --> 1:01:09.000 where you have the animal but there's no hunting for it, 1:01:10.240 --> 1:01:12.840 and where it's just not present, so it's not an issue. 1:01:13.560 --> 1:01:16.280 If you look at the big horn sheep hunting opportunities map, 1:01:16.720 --> 1:01:19.560 it's all limited availability. There's no easy way to get 1:01:19.560 --> 1:01:22.520 a big horn tag analope, it's split half the state's 1:01:22.600 --> 1:01:25.160 widely available and we explain what that means and how 1:01:25.160 --> 1:01:28.160 to go about getting those tags. Half the state's limited availability. 1:01:28.200 --> 1:01:30.000 You gotta do a draw to get an analope tag. 1:01:30.400 --> 1:01:32.520 It will help you think about destinations if you want 1:01:32.520 --> 1:01:37.000 to go on that big Western hunt. Then edibility just 1:01:37.080 --> 1:01:41.640 thoughts and edibility general thoughts on hunting opportunities, and then 1:01:41.720 --> 1:01:45.160 hunting methods. So early we're talking about spot stock hunting, 1:01:45.200 --> 1:01:49.600 ambush hunting, decoys and calling. Okay, those then get applied 1:01:49.640 --> 1:01:55.720 in a very specific way to each of these animals. Archery, firearm. 1:01:55.760 --> 1:01:58.040 How to do all those hunting methods? How did that apply? 1:01:58.080 --> 1:02:00.320 Are the appropriate for the animal or not? If so, 1:02:00.440 --> 1:02:02.720 what particular things do you need to do to make 1:02:02.840 --> 1:02:06.480 those methods described in the hunting methods section work for 1:02:06.520 --> 1:02:10.360 the species. So we get an animal, then we're rolling 1:02:10.400 --> 1:02:13.040 the big horn sheep big orang sheep. For the hunting methods. 1:02:13.120 --> 1:02:15.680 The main thing I talked about big orange sheep is 1:02:15.840 --> 1:02:19.640 I get into some details about tag draws. The only 1:02:19.680 --> 1:02:21.680 way you're gonna hunt a big horn unless you're loaded, 1:02:21.680 --> 1:02:23.160 and I explain how to do it if you're loaded. 1:02:23.320 --> 1:02:25.440 If you're not loaded, how you're gonna hunt big horns. 1:02:25.480 --> 1:02:27.480 You're gonna win a lottery tag for a big horn tag. 1:02:27.800 --> 1:02:32.400 This section is basically devoted to that if you have 1:02:32.480 --> 1:02:34.200 a life's goal of hunting a big horn, how do 1:02:34.240 --> 1:02:37.160 you start right now? At what age is it too 1:02:37.280 --> 1:02:39.800 late for you to start? What age is that you 1:02:39.800 --> 1:02:41.840 should start now? And here's how to kind of begin 1:02:42.080 --> 1:02:44.440 and how to kind of think about getting the tag. 1:02:44.880 --> 1:02:48.080 And if you read the rest of the book and 1:02:48.160 --> 1:02:50.320 learn how to spot in stock and still hunt whatever, 1:02:50.440 --> 1:02:52.960 you'll be prepared when you do draw that tag, will 1:02:53.000 --> 1:02:56.040 be prepared for a big one hunt. Black bear long 1:02:56.240 --> 1:02:59.040 section on black bear, because you gotta deal with coastal hunting, 1:02:59.720 --> 1:03:07.120 my hunting, hunting, fruit orchards, bait, pile hunting, hunting everywhere 1:03:07.240 --> 1:03:11.760 from Maine to California, spring and fall. It's a big subject. 1:03:12.480 --> 1:03:17.400 And our hunting opportunities maps. You know, this information changes 1:03:17.480 --> 1:03:22.760 because animals fluctuation. The population of these animals fluctuates, and 1:03:22.800 --> 1:03:25.240 so in ten years, you know these mass would be 1:03:25.600 --> 1:03:28.920 spot on. But working on the hunting opportunities maps was 1:03:29.200 --> 1:03:32.320 very interesting to me because you just have no idea. 1:03:32.480 --> 1:03:34.760 You just always focus on your own state where you live, 1:03:34.840 --> 1:03:37.080 or your region of the country, and you go, wow, 1:03:37.280 --> 1:03:39.320 you can actually hunt black bears. It looks like in 1:03:39.800 --> 1:03:42.120 more than half the states in our country. I had 1:03:42.160 --> 1:03:45.000 no idea until I worked on making that map. So 1:03:45.040 --> 1:03:47.120 I feel like out of every section when you look 1:03:47.160 --> 1:03:49.040 at those, you know just kind of give you more 1:03:49.080 --> 1:03:54.240 of a um you know, continental, We're not continent wide, 1:03:54.240 --> 1:03:57.800 but you know, countrywide view of where these animals live 1:03:57.840 --> 1:03:59.840 and where you can hunt them. Now, as far as like, 1:04:00.160 --> 1:04:03.280 we got an Appalachian bear hunter got it goes by 1:04:03.280 --> 1:04:05.240 the name Shing Daddy. He weighs in on bear on 1:04:05.280 --> 1:04:08.000 how to establish a bear bait station, all his thoughts 1:04:08.040 --> 1:04:11.240 on that. Then we got Jared Finker, Wisconsin hunter weighs 1:04:11.240 --> 1:04:15.200 in an archery stand placement for bear baits. So if 1:04:15.200 --> 1:04:18.120 you're hunting bow over bear bait, how you go about 1:04:18.680 --> 1:04:21.760 thinking about positioning your stand. We got another guy and 1:04:21.880 --> 1:04:25.800 Idaho bear hunter Chad Bart weighs in on places stand 1:04:25.800 --> 1:04:28.400 near bear bait. For rifle hunting, what are the special 1:04:28.440 --> 1:04:30.440 considerations you have to take into a fact when you're 1:04:30.480 --> 1:04:33.640 doing you have to think about when you're doing bait 1:04:33.680 --> 1:04:38.600 pile hunting with a rifle. All very different blacktail deer 1:04:39.960 --> 1:04:45.360 Okay range from California on up into Alaska. How to 1:04:45.440 --> 1:04:48.840 work topography for blacktail deer, the difference be a blacktail 1:04:48.880 --> 1:04:52.120 deer hunt in September and November. How the animals move 1:04:52.200 --> 1:04:58.400 and use their landscape. Buffalo, A little bit about buffalo hunting, 1:04:58.400 --> 1:05:01.320 a lot about how to handle big carcasses. That's the 1:05:01.360 --> 1:05:03.120 thing I think of when I think of a buffalo hunt, 1:05:03.200 --> 1:05:06.080 is you're handling a giant carcass. So early I mentioned 1:05:06.080 --> 1:05:07.640 like it doesn't matter what you do, you're gonna find 1:05:07.640 --> 1:05:09.640 good stuff in all these chapters. I don't care if 1:05:09.680 --> 1:05:12.960 you hunt moose, cariboo, whatever. You're gonna learn a lot 1:05:13.040 --> 1:05:16.800 about handling big carcasses and handling big carcasses in grizzly 1:05:16.840 --> 1:05:19.640 country in this section that you'll be able to apply 1:05:19.720 --> 1:05:28.920 to any situation you're in. Caribou. Careful detail on cariboo, 1:05:28.960 --> 1:05:30.680 and a lot about my favorite way to hunt them, 1:05:30.680 --> 1:05:34.360 which takes into effect the funnels. So early we talked 1:05:34.360 --> 1:05:38.800 about funnels, pitch points. We get into greater detail with cariboo. 1:05:39.280 --> 1:05:43.880 How lakes impact cariboo movements, How valleys and valley floors 1:05:44.360 --> 1:05:49.720 affect cariboo movements, How mountain passes affect cariboo movements. Some 1:05:49.840 --> 1:05:52.640 tricks to dealing with air carriers and bush pilots when 1:05:52.640 --> 1:05:56.040 you're trying to do a you're guided cariboo hunt. How 1:05:56.040 --> 1:05:58.240 to tell a male from a female, which is a 1:05:58.320 --> 1:06:00.680 lot more difficult than you might think, because is they're 1:06:00.720 --> 1:06:04.280 the only antlerd animal we have where the females carry 1:06:04.280 --> 1:06:12.720 antlers here in North America. Doll sheet a personal favor 1:06:12.840 --> 1:06:16.680 to mine, But again, the chapter has a lot to 1:06:16.720 --> 1:06:19.120 do with hunting in the mountains and living under very 1:06:19.160 --> 1:06:22.560 difficult circumstances. How to get in a position where you 1:06:22.600 --> 1:06:24.920 can put on a lot of miles in the mountains 1:06:24.960 --> 1:06:29.440 every day without wearing yourself out. Rick French and Alaska 1:06:29.520 --> 1:06:31.680 sheep God. He weighs in on the dudes and don'ts 1:06:31.680 --> 1:06:34.520 of dolls sheep hunting, and it is probably you know, 1:06:35.640 --> 1:06:39.240 it's a couple of hundred words that has more wisdom 1:06:39.280 --> 1:06:41.520 about sheep hunting in it than anything you're gonna find. 1:06:43.680 --> 1:06:47.200 We get into elk and Yanni worked tirelessly on the 1:06:47.240 --> 1:06:53.080 elk section. Break down some thoughts here Yanni mm hmm, 1:06:55.280 --> 1:06:58.120 including a sweet picture carved into a tree that Yanni 1:06:58.160 --> 1:07:00.960 found of an elk, which is kind of amazing looking. Yeah, 1:07:01.080 --> 1:07:03.640 it is great I'm glad, I know exactly Hopefully that 1:07:03.680 --> 1:07:05.720 tree still stands for quite a while I can go 1:07:05.760 --> 1:07:08.720 back and look at it. That's in Colorado. A more 1:07:08.760 --> 1:07:12.600 than likely a um what they call him arbor lifts, 1:07:12.640 --> 1:07:16.640 a sheep order that they usually come up from South 1:07:16.680 --> 1:07:21.200 America during the summer in Colorado. Herd sheep come from 1:07:21.240 --> 1:07:25.880 place all over the place. Uh, Peruvians and uh, I 1:07:25.880 --> 1:07:27.600 can't remera some me. Anyways, you see a lot of 1:07:27.640 --> 1:07:31.000 arbor lifts on the aspens in Colorado. And uh, it 1:07:31.080 --> 1:07:33.520 was funny because where where I found this. This is 1:07:33.520 --> 1:07:35.800 on a scouting little scotty mission I was doing, and 1:07:35.840 --> 1:07:38.080 I think like a week or ten days later, we 1:07:38.200 --> 1:07:40.720 ended up killing two cows within a couple hundred yards 1:07:40.760 --> 1:07:43.280 of that tree. Yeah, so that thing too. It's like 1:07:43.320 --> 1:07:46.760 this book takes time for beauty. Man, This book has 1:07:46.800 --> 1:07:51.640 a nod towards the beauty of the natural world. Yanni 1:07:51.720 --> 1:07:54.040 gets real heavy into yeah, you know, Yanni was an 1:07:54.040 --> 1:07:58.200 ELK Guyau's real heavy into calling, how to makes sense 1:07:58.200 --> 1:08:00.840 a game calls, how to use game call? Yeah, and 1:08:01.240 --> 1:08:04.480 especially here for ELK, you know. And again the illustrations 1:08:04.520 --> 1:08:06.800 that uh, you know, we came up kind of with 1:08:06.840 --> 1:08:09.680 the ideas and then you know, Pete Zachoski was able 1:08:09.720 --> 1:08:13.040 to actually put him into you know what now looks 1:08:13.080 --> 1:08:15.360 like art and you really get a good sense of 1:08:15.440 --> 1:08:17.759 when we when we, you know, in text, talk about 1:08:17.800 --> 1:08:20.080 the T booning technique and what that means to kind 1:08:20.080 --> 1:08:23.479 of you know, basically parallel herd, you know, waiting for 1:08:23.520 --> 1:08:26.600 the right opportunity to to bank in and make a 1:08:26.680 --> 1:08:28.960 move and try to get a shot. And uh again 1:08:29.000 --> 1:08:31.200 he put it into a beautiful illustration. Yes, say, we 1:08:31.200 --> 1:08:32.680 talked a lot with the l khuns where you know 1:08:32.760 --> 1:08:34.760 a lot of great elk hunters and and I used 1:08:34.800 --> 1:08:38.519 to be an avid archery l hunter. As you kind 1:08:38.520 --> 1:08:40.400 of talk about like what's your strategy and you'd be like, oh, 1:08:40.479 --> 1:08:41.960 we kind of just get close to and wait for 1:08:41.960 --> 1:08:44.800 something to happen. Yeah, you know, like, well what does 1:08:44.840 --> 1:08:47.320 that mean exactly? And he honest breaks down with the 1:08:47.360 --> 1:08:50.080 thing he calls t bowning. He breaks down like what 1:08:50.120 --> 1:08:52.880 that means when you get into a herd, how you 1:08:52.920 --> 1:08:55.120 can stay near her without that herd? No, when you're 1:08:55.160 --> 1:08:57.960 there and what you're doing when you're waiting for like 1:08:58.120 --> 1:09:01.320 what we call something to happen happen and how to 1:09:01.360 --> 1:09:05.120 help it happen. Um and mainly just like staying close 1:09:05.160 --> 1:09:08.320 to elk without elk know when you're there. We have 1:09:08.360 --> 1:09:10.600 a section called a bunch of things to keep in 1:09:10.640 --> 1:09:14.920 mind when calling out, just bullet pointed stuff that might 1:09:14.960 --> 1:09:16.800 not fit into the text, but it's just like stuff 1:09:16.840 --> 1:09:20.559 you gotta have. And again, ambush hunting is covered in 1:09:20.600 --> 1:09:24.280 regards to elk. Still hunting is you're covered in regards 1:09:24.320 --> 1:09:30.280 to elk. All of it's there. Have Alena. It's not 1:09:30.479 --> 1:09:35.559 a celebrated game animal. It should be this Mainly the 1:09:35.600 --> 1:09:37.720 goal of this chatter is to make you realize that 1:09:37.880 --> 1:09:41.400 you are insane if you don't hunt. Have Alina. Big 1:09:41.439 --> 1:09:44.759 thing on moose. Okay, everything you want to know about 1:09:44.760 --> 1:09:49.479 moose hunt, Alpine stuff, low country stuff, main stuff, Alaska stuff, 1:09:49.800 --> 1:09:52.360 how to gauge legality of moose, which is very tricky 1:09:52.360 --> 1:09:53.720 for anyone who wants to go do a do it 1:09:53.760 --> 1:09:56.639 yourself moose hunt in Alaska where they tell you it's 1:09:56.640 --> 1:09:58.880 got to have a fifty and spread or four brower. Times. 1:09:59.520 --> 1:10:04.800 You have never known stress in hunting until you've pulled 1:10:04.800 --> 1:10:06.640 the trigger on a moose and then you gotta get 1:10:06.720 --> 1:10:09.719 over there. And find out if your calculations were correct, 1:10:09.880 --> 1:10:13.320 how to like think about that, and how to not 1:10:13.439 --> 1:10:17.960 make mistakes, and a very good definition and explanation of 1:10:18.080 --> 1:10:21.439 why you should never pull the trigger on a moose 1:10:22.280 --> 1:10:24.920 If you think he's fifty and that's all you're going 1:10:24.960 --> 1:10:27.679 by is your estimation of him being fifty inches wide. 1:10:27.760 --> 1:10:30.720 You need more than that. You need more than oh, 1:10:30.760 --> 1:10:34.679 he's got to be fifty, um. How not to make 1:10:34.760 --> 1:10:40.160 mistakes that could land you very serious legal trouble with 1:10:40.320 --> 1:10:44.800 a confiscated animal potentially a confiscated truck and firearm like 1:10:44.840 --> 1:10:46.640 how to avoid these kind of mistakes, And that's what 1:10:46.760 --> 1:10:51.960 information is everywhere in here. How to handle more stuff 1:10:51.960 --> 1:10:57.040 on handling a big gas carcass, mountain goat hunting, telling 1:10:57.120 --> 1:10:59.880 males from females where to go, What kind of mountain 1:11:00.040 --> 1:11:03.280 ring equipment you want on a mountain goat hunt, what's 1:11:03.320 --> 1:11:06.240 too much? What kind of mountain nearing equipment is gonna 1:11:06.240 --> 1:11:09.280 get you in trouble? What kind of mountaineering income uh 1:11:09.439 --> 1:11:14.360 equipment might save your ass? A picture of my wonderful 1:11:14.400 --> 1:11:19.240 sister in law six months pregnant with a mountain goat 1:11:19.320 --> 1:11:22.720 she killed, going to show that not anyone canna hume, 1:11:22.720 --> 1:11:26.400 ountain goats. But someone with the right attitude can do it. No. 1:11:28.360 --> 1:11:32.000 One of my favorite sections twelve pages that are just 1:11:32.240 --> 1:11:37.200 packed full of awesome information about hunting mule deer and 1:11:37.280 --> 1:11:40.759 some of the better ways in not better, they're all great, 1:11:40.880 --> 1:11:46.599 but great ways in pieces from Remy Warren, Steve Reid, 1:11:47.080 --> 1:11:54.160 Colorado hunter and guide Remy Warren, Rody Henderson, all guys 1:11:54.160 --> 1:11:56.920 that kill a lot of mule there just kind of 1:11:56.920 --> 1:12:00.120 give you, you know, their view of it and how 1:12:00.160 --> 1:12:03.200 they go about it. And here's yawning with a giant mule. 1:12:03.240 --> 1:12:06.640 Hear he killed on a public land Colorado hunt not 1:12:06.760 --> 1:12:14.800 far from a road. Crunch time hunt, high competition, getting 1:12:14.880 --> 1:12:19.040 Danny's a big thing on wild pigs. Okay, this gets 1:12:19.040 --> 1:12:22.600 into the politics of wild pigs. It gets into the 1:12:22.640 --> 1:12:29.280 definitions of wild pigs. Your razors, back, Eurasian borders, feral pigs, 1:12:29.320 --> 1:12:35.400 wild pigs. How it's all one thing, suits scraffa okay 1:12:35.880 --> 1:12:40.000 everything spot stock hunting, how to hunt natural baits, naturally 1:12:40.000 --> 1:12:44.120 occurring baits for pigs, shot placement on pigs, the trouble 1:12:44.200 --> 1:12:47.120 you can get in bow hunting for pigs with shot placement. 1:12:48.080 --> 1:12:53.080 Oh humong guy white tail section because a lot of people, 1:12:53.280 --> 1:12:55.519 a lot of hunters cut their teeth on white tail hunting. 1:12:55.760 --> 1:12:59.320 The white tail section more than any other sections, is 1:12:59.360 --> 1:13:01.920 meant to be a beginner's guide to white tail hunting. 1:13:03.080 --> 1:13:05.599 Yet we did a little piece on the gray ghost, 1:13:06.479 --> 1:13:09.240 Steve's favorite, the coups Deer. The white tail hunter Chris 1:13:09.280 --> 1:13:12.599 eber Heart weighs in on public access white tails. This 1:13:12.640 --> 1:13:18.799 guy's whole deal, like he's devoted his life. They're killing 1:13:19.280 --> 1:13:21.880 white tail bucks in places you would not even think 1:13:21.960 --> 1:13:25.320 to hunt, and he breaks his method down for you. 1:13:25.400 --> 1:13:27.559 He hunts chunks of land you didn't realize you could 1:13:27.600 --> 1:13:29.800 hunt on, and it kills dude that no one knows 1:13:29.800 --> 1:13:31.519 her there. And what I love about Chris is that 1:13:31.600 --> 1:13:35.120 he does it economically out of an old minivan. Yes, 1:13:36.280 --> 1:13:39.160 the guy just has a system and he hunts everywhere. 1:13:39.160 --> 1:13:41.599 And this guy can roll into a new state and 1:13:41.640 --> 1:13:43.479 find bucks that the guys that live there don't even 1:13:43.479 --> 1:13:45.120 know where there. As long as you can find, as 1:13:45.120 --> 1:13:47.400 long as you can afford the tag and some gas, 1:13:48.040 --> 1:13:50.920 you can do it. The Chris ebra Hardaway. Doug Dern 1:13:51.000 --> 1:13:53.840 weighs in on his favorite white tail hunting method called 1:13:53.880 --> 1:13:57.640 the mooch. I don't know. We tease him endlessly. What 1:13:57.760 --> 1:14:00.360 is that? Because that's a fishing term, you know, it's 1:14:00.360 --> 1:14:04.200 like banana waite cut plug herring. Your mooch in salmon dog. 1:14:04.240 --> 1:14:08.799 They mooch deer. Um. It works. It's a fun hunting method. 1:14:08.960 --> 1:14:12.200 We break it down with graphics. They've killed some giants. 1:14:12.600 --> 1:14:15.080 Big thing about Jack O'Connor's very own gray goals to 1:14:15.120 --> 1:14:20.160 cous deer. Why is she gett into hunting? Butcher? And 1:14:20.479 --> 1:14:21.760 you know he's the one to call it the poor 1:14:21.800 --> 1:14:24.439 man sheet, which I didn't know until I read that book. 1:14:24.479 --> 1:14:31.320 And uh, it's fitting butcher and big game, big game 1:14:31.560 --> 1:14:34.439 in the field. Okay, what's to do in the field? 1:14:35.479 --> 1:14:38.439 How to handle large animals on the ground in the field? 1:14:39.120 --> 1:14:41.680 How to gut a deer the right way? You can 1:14:41.680 --> 1:14:43.479 break all the rules, but you got to learn them first. 1:14:43.520 --> 1:14:45.400 It's like with writing. You can break all the rules 1:14:45.400 --> 1:14:47.800 and writing once you learn them. You can break the 1:14:47.880 --> 1:14:50.040 rules and gutting once you learn them. Here's like, how 1:14:50.080 --> 1:14:54.320 to really gut an animal? Well, all your shortcuts and 1:14:54.360 --> 1:14:59.120 gutless method and all that garbage, it's fine, do it well, 1:14:59.400 --> 1:15:02.000 do it the first few times, and so you know 1:15:02.040 --> 1:15:04.679 what product you're after, and then you can mess around. 1:15:05.560 --> 1:15:10.280 How the gut, how to skin how to leave evidence 1:15:10.280 --> 1:15:13.040 of sex, which is which is a requirement in many states. 1:15:13.080 --> 1:15:15.080 What that means, the best way, the cleanest way to 1:15:15.120 --> 1:15:19.439 do it? Field skinning okay? How does skins up in 1:15:19.479 --> 1:15:21.439 the field? How to skin it under ground? How to 1:15:21.520 --> 1:15:27.120 skin it hanging in the field. Very detailed photography. A 1:15:27.240 --> 1:15:30.679 bunch of just random field dressing tips. Twelve random field 1:15:30.760 --> 1:15:35.840 dressing tips. Skinning big game for taxidermy and tanning okay. 1:15:35.960 --> 1:15:39.360 How to handle bear hides, deer capes, everything, how to 1:15:39.439 --> 1:15:45.000 cut away skull plates, handling meat in the field, what 1:15:45.280 --> 1:15:49.360 not to do, what to do for clean, good, safe, 1:15:49.520 --> 1:15:55.040 healthy meat. Thoughts on aging game meat, bonus parts, or 1:15:55.080 --> 1:15:57.960 how to show maximum respect for your prey. How to 1:15:58.040 --> 1:16:05.200 handle deer heads, dear hearts, kidneys, liver, nuts, tongues, tongues. Yeah, 1:16:05.320 --> 1:16:07.360 and this stuff is kind of interspersed to and some 1:16:08.120 --> 1:16:11.519 well those sidebars you know about a you know, a 1:16:11.640 --> 1:16:14.439 tongue or whatever. And that's you know, the true mediator style. 1:16:14.760 --> 1:16:16.160 I feel like, you know, when we take to the 1:16:16.280 --> 1:16:19.400 next level and give you that give you the power 1:16:19.479 --> 1:16:22.519 to you know, to do more how to handle large 1:16:22.920 --> 1:16:25.479 Thoughts on handling large from bears and wild pigs. What's 1:16:25.479 --> 1:16:27.080 it is good for, what it's not good for, how 1:16:27.160 --> 1:16:29.679 to make it, how to use it. There's another example 1:16:29.720 --> 1:16:32.120 of that, breaking down a big game animal. So you 1:16:32.160 --> 1:16:34.600 gotta skinned out carcass. You're ready to butcher. How to 1:16:34.680 --> 1:16:37.040 break that thing down, how to think about the different cuts, 1:16:37.080 --> 1:16:39.000 how to freeze the different cauts, how to bone out 1:16:39.080 --> 1:16:43.519 what bones are good for stuff? How to do something 1:16:43.600 --> 1:16:45.920 fast because you don't have time and you gotta get 1:16:45.920 --> 1:16:47.800 your animal in the freezer because it's hot out and 1:16:47.880 --> 1:16:50.160 you gotta be to work, and you want to do 1:16:50.240 --> 1:16:52.519 it yourself, but you only got an hour. What to 1:16:52.640 --> 1:16:55.439 do then that allows you to do a better job 1:16:55.600 --> 1:16:57.040 later when you're ready to pull it out of your 1:16:57.080 --> 1:16:59.560 freezer later. It's like a two stage butchering method that 1:16:59.600 --> 1:17:02.000 I use all the time. Just how to do it 1:17:02.160 --> 1:17:08.840 fast and right. How to make burger grinding burger okay? 1:17:10.160 --> 1:17:12.639 How to freeze big game eat a variety of methods, 1:17:12.680 --> 1:17:14.639 pros and cons for all the ways to put big 1:17:14.720 --> 1:17:19.439 game in your thing. And finally we get down to 1:17:19.520 --> 1:17:25.639 the recipes. Smoking hands off deer and bears, making pulled 1:17:25.720 --> 1:17:29.759 pork recipes, the wild game, making stock from wild game, 1:17:30.160 --> 1:17:35.160 blade in roast asabuco or braids, shank, how to fry 1:17:35.280 --> 1:17:41.960 up heart and liver, how to do marinades, how to 1:17:42.080 --> 1:17:46.479 make veal parmesan with game meat, All kinds of stuff 1:17:46.479 --> 1:17:49.800 about grilling steaks and marinades and dry rubs and dudes 1:17:49.840 --> 1:17:54.040 and don't stuff on Burger's jerky, grilling hole loins, making 1:17:54.080 --> 1:17:56.920 deer heads, all kinds of stuff. I'm making your own 1:17:56.960 --> 1:18:03.920 fresh sausages and starkoutrie. Stuff about camp meals in the field, 1:18:04.000 --> 1:18:07.880 preparations of crazy stuff that will blow people's minds. Um 1:18:08.200 --> 1:18:11.000 a lot of thoughts on burger how to deal with it, 1:18:12.200 --> 1:18:15.240 some some surprising stuff like mince meat pie with bear 1:18:15.400 --> 1:18:18.160 lard crust, how to roast a rack of deer ribs 1:18:18.160 --> 1:18:21.120 out in the field for a great camp meal. It 1:18:21.200 --> 1:18:25.760 just goes on and on and on and on. That 1:18:25.880 --> 1:18:28.360 feels pretty complete to me. Here was a complete guy 1:18:28.360 --> 1:18:32.880 to hunting, butcher and cooking wild game. Okay, I already 1:18:32.920 --> 1:18:37.240 have my closing thought. And I'm sorry listeners if we 1:18:37.280 --> 1:18:39.000 feel like we're rushing out of here, but we have 1:18:39.120 --> 1:18:41.320 a big day. We've got some travel, We're heading to 1:18:41.400 --> 1:18:45.439 Alaska for a secret project, secret, top secret. Yeah, we're 1:18:45.439 --> 1:18:47.439 going out to work on a secret project that is 1:18:47.520 --> 1:18:52.200 not meat either. Yes, we're bringing rifles and fishing poles, 1:18:53.400 --> 1:18:57.519 but that's for just extracurricular. But it's a part, it's 1:18:57.520 --> 1:19:00.280 a part of a master plan. Anyways, My clothing on 1:19:00.439 --> 1:19:09.320 this monster infomercial guidebook plug here is that, Um, I'm 1:19:09.360 --> 1:19:11.080 not brown nose, and it's gonna sound like I am. 1:19:11.240 --> 1:19:14.960 But like all Steve's books, it's it doesn't read like 1:19:15.080 --> 1:19:19.880 some dry how to manual. It is that, but it 1:19:20.080 --> 1:19:24.640 is intimate and fun to read, and you get to 1:19:24.680 --> 1:19:26.559 read other people's words, you know, with all the ways 1:19:26.640 --> 1:19:29.479 in so like. It's not like you're picking up a 1:19:29.560 --> 1:19:31.640 textbook and prepared to be bored. No, you're gonna pick 1:19:31.680 --> 1:19:33.760 it up and go man, I can't believe it's not 1:19:33.880 --> 1:19:36.120 knocked out fifty pages and it's time to go to bed. 1:19:36.320 --> 1:19:38.840 I want to hear the anecdote about your your brother 1:19:38.920 --> 1:19:41.080 in this book that you just told me yesterday. My 1:19:41.160 --> 1:19:42.800 brother called me to say how much you liked it 1:19:42.880 --> 1:19:44.560 when he got a copy, and he's been reading it 1:19:44.680 --> 1:19:48.200 to his uh, his six year old as bedtime stories. 1:19:49.800 --> 1:19:51.840 This kid he says his kids fascinated. Here's the deal. 1:19:51.920 --> 1:19:55.680 Here's here's my concluding thought. Man, I don't want you 1:19:55.720 --> 1:20:00.040 to think this is just a big bullshit party. And 1:20:00.240 --> 1:20:06.559 right now, like I honestly, okay, I honestly, I'm very 1:20:06.960 --> 1:20:10.559 happy with how these books turned out. I'm very proud 1:20:11.439 --> 1:20:13.960 of these books. If I wasn't, I would not be 1:20:14.080 --> 1:20:16.320 sitting here like doing this. I'm not just doing this 1:20:17.080 --> 1:20:20.640 to sell some books. I really not. It was a 1:20:20.800 --> 1:20:23.800 lot of work that a lot of people did and 1:20:23.880 --> 1:20:26.120 it's something that I will look at for the rest 1:20:26.200 --> 1:20:28.160 of my life and be proud to have been involved in. 1:20:31.920 --> 1:20:36.439 Eighteen nineteen. People, we're heavily involved in the making of 1:20:36.520 --> 1:20:40.640 this book. Okay, there's a group effort. It's really like, 1:20:40.760 --> 1:20:44.200 there's nothing else like this exists in the hunting world. 1:20:44.280 --> 1:20:48.320 I promise you I have read it. Okay, if it's 1:20:48.360 --> 1:20:50.360 out there, I've read it. 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