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My brother and I started this project maybe 19 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: three years ago now, really yeah, yeah, it started slowly, 20 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: we started talking about it, you know. But how it 21 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: came about was the fact that I love to hunt. 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: I love to tell people about hunting. I love to wear. 23 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to wear a hunting T shirt that represented 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: really the way I felt about hunting, and I really 25 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: didn't feel like I could find that at Cobells and 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: Sportsmans at the time. So we started making our own 27 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: hunt shirts. Let many states ago now Montana, Colorado, Texas, 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: and we have a couple just kind of blank hunt 29 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: Eat shirts, not state affiliated. Now I've always been able 30 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: to say because I'm always plugging Yanni's T shirt company, 31 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: his his T shirt Empire, because I don't, uh you know, 32 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: I don't have any steak in the game, right back 33 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: me up on this. No, all you get is a 34 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: couple of free T shirts I guess it called free teachers, 35 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: and already have two many T shirts. But now that's 36 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: gonna change because Janni is actually um gonna be working 37 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: on his design. He and his design team at the 38 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: corporate headquarters World Headquarters, at the World at the Hunt 39 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: Eat World Headquarters are gonna be working up a meat 40 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: Eat or hunt Eat shirt. No, it actually got the 41 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: design got approved late last night, and uh the graphics 42 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: guys doing the final artwork on it this week, so 43 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: I haven't even seen it. But this new shirt is 44 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: going to be available through me Eater channels and also 45 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: through Yanni's own Hunt Eat. What's your hunt eat dot com? Yes, sir, 46 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: h U N T T O E A T. Yeah, 47 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 1: don't put the two letter two in there. Someone else 48 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: already snagged that. Doing main name really find know who? Well, well, 49 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: it's the same thing with like meat eater dot com. 50 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: You know, We've tried to contact him left and right, 51 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: and it's you know, he's got a Facebook page. But 52 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: it's more it's like hunting for restaurants is kind of 53 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: is the basis, but there's nothing there, you know. Uh, 54 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about not that now we're done plugging 55 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: Yanni's T shirt company. We're actually the thing I want 56 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: to talk about right now, Like the purpose of this 57 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: episode is to make a gigantic infomercial about the guide 58 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: book volumes that we've been working on called The Complete Guy, 59 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: The Hunting Butcher and Cooking, Wild Game, Buying One Big Game, 60 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: Buying two Small Games. But first I want to like 61 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: talk about a different aspect of books. And it's because 62 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: Janice my whole life, like my my whole professional life 63 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: or hunting life, whatever, both of those lives. People have 64 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 1: been telling me to read Jack O'Connor, who is You'll 65 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: hear many descriptions as the guy. He's like the granddaddy, Okay, 66 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: the first, the original what's known as a gun writer. Right, 67 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: he was at out their life for a bazillion years. 68 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: He was doing like the bulk of his hunting and 69 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: writing kind of in the post World War two years. Okay, 70 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: up and up well into the seventies. And if you 71 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: own a TO seventy, you own a TO seventy because 72 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: of Jack O'Connor. Right. He it was a great champion 73 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: of that cartridge. And I was guilty of having never like, 74 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: despite everybody always saying like, oh, you should read Jack O'Connor, 75 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: I never read Jack O'Connor. One of these people always 76 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: tell you about to read Jack O'Connor is because you know, 77 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: he liked to hunt Cousder and I like CU's dere um. 78 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: He's also a big sheep guy. So I started reading. 79 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: Yanni gave me a book. It's like the complete Jack O'Connor, um. Yeah, 80 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: some sort of like a compilation greatest of I think. Yeah, 81 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: it's been a very difficult read for me. Why. I'll 82 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: start out by saying this, I'll started saying, Jack O'Connor, 83 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: and then I encourage you, listener, I encourage you to 84 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: read some Jack O'Connor. What Jack O'Connor has going for 85 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: him is he's a fantastic writer. Okay, he's a he's 86 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: a great writer. Yes, when you read some of those stories, 87 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: I feel like when he's talking about even though it's 88 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: a warm beer because back then they didn't refrigerate their 89 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: beer when they're out camping. He talked about coming back 90 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: from accuse deer hunt and like sitting in like a 91 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: hot tent but cracking this like warm beer, and man, 92 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: when he describes it, I was like, man, I'm right 93 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: there drinking that beer with you. Great writer. Um has 94 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: unique ways of getting into and out of his stories, 95 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: you know, a phenomenal craftsman of words. But I just 96 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: like the like gun writer thing is always very troubling 97 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: to me because, like you get the sense rend O'Connor, 98 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: that guy wouldn't go on a squirrel hunt without a guide. 99 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: Do you think, yeah, he's just like he in some 100 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: ways the old gun writers and some gun writers they're 101 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: like they seem like trigger men. They are out there 102 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: to shoot right and everything else to them is just like, 103 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: besides the shooting, everything else to them is just like 104 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: details they can't be bothered with, right. But I feel 105 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: like back in his day's take me out so I 106 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: can shoot something. That's what I feel like their attitude is. 107 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: And he's got this thing too, like this like he 108 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: probably started this, the whole gunwriter thing where he goes 109 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: he's talking about shooting at these doll sheet and reading's 110 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 1: description brings to mind, now everyone's great fear is about 111 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: long range shooting, like out like long rain. And she 112 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: was like, oh, people are taking these shots. You shouln't 113 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: be taken. Yeah, But here's Jack O'Connor like bragging up 114 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: about taking three yard shots at doll sheep running full tilt, yeah, 115 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: and he's like aiming eight feet off the end of 116 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: its nose, gets up there, he's got one in the jaw, 117 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: one in the ass, one on the back, one through 118 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: the lungs, and then he goes into that dumb thing 119 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: gunwriters going to where he's like, okay, so he like 120 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 1: fills this thing full of holes taking shots he should 121 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: never be taken. Then she drags it down to the 122 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: ground and he's like, oh, in the grain you know, 123 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: the or the hundred and sixty grain boat tail pushed 124 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: by fifty six grains of in a blank. Primer really 125 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: did his job, and like you didn't. It's just ridiculous. 126 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: It's like when you're reading gun writers now and they 127 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: always have that part where like we went to wherever 128 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: to to Africa to test out the new load, and 129 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: they talk about this hunt like in the bullet. Really 130 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: it's like really, like that's that's that's not how the 131 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: test things in real life. So you can't like act 132 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: like that's a test, right, It's just just making anecdotal observations. 133 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: And here you're anecdotal observation. It is based off blasting 134 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: away at adults. Sheeps is running full tilt. He's like 135 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: every shot the guy takes makes you cringe. He's got, 136 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: he's got. It was almost a hundred years ago. No, yeah, yeah, 137 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: so I just feel like it was there was there 138 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: were different ethics back then. I'm not talking about different ethics. 139 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: I'm talking about it's just like, yeah, but it's the 140 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: same people's stuff are saying now. People act like, oh, 141 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: the old days, right, So people think about Jack O'Connor, right, 142 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: like the old people didn't take these shots that were 143 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, people were experienced and and um, you know, 144 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: like the old one shot, one bullet deal. And now 145 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: you got these long range guys taking shot nation never 146 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: be taken. And here's this iconic like everyone's favorite gun writer, 147 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: right taking ridiculous shots. The guys nowadays don't take. Yeah, 148 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: people still do take him. But I don't think people. 149 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: I don't think you'll find many dolls sheep hunters are 150 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: shooting at full tilt running dolls sheep at three d yards. 151 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: I doubt it. I think a lot of guys would 152 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: be like nope. But here's the guy getting famous off 153 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: that stuff. He's going to take a crack at a 154 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: doll sheep where there's a U standing there in a 155 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: ram standing behind the you, and he can just see 156 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: the crest of its back behind the EU, and he 157 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: takes a shot seeing if he can't nick it spine. 158 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: He's taking ask shots, ear shots, and he like he's 159 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: just shooting. That's what I'm saying. That's how it was. 160 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: It was okay to do that back then. I still 161 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: think that now. Maybe not skimming one over the back 162 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: of a U and into the spine of one is 163 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: something that someone's gonna try today. But I still feel 164 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: like people are taking I mean, think about anlo. How 165 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: many dudes do you think are shooting at running animos 166 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: every day? I've killed running alo. Yeah. Like, I just 167 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: feel like now people are discussing that more in a 168 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: is this okay to do you know, ethics type of conversation. 169 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: We're back then it was okay. I mean look at 170 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: Art Young and Saxon Pope. Those boys used to launch. 171 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: They used to go on hunt trips with like a 172 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,599 Speaker 1: thousand arrows because they see one game animal at a 173 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: hundred yards and would just start launching, you know, like 174 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: a war, you know, just raining arrows. And that was that's, 175 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: you know, the beginning of the Pope and Young club. 176 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: Yeah no, my owd man, that's a good point. My 177 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: old man was involved in Pope and Young way ago, 178 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: like in the fifties, right. He was bow hunting back 179 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: before their both seasons, you know. And he knew this 180 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: guy from the Chicago because he was big in Chicago bowman, 181 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: like a Chicago area archery club before he moved to Michigan. 182 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: I was born and there was some guy at this 183 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: club called Art Laha. I guess he was some kind 184 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: of big, you know, big swinging dick figure in uh 185 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: bow hunt at the time, and he had this video 186 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: he made or he went went up to Alaska and 187 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: just shooting, you know. And I remember he pulls up, 188 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: he's out with some Eskimo hunters off the west coast 189 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: of Alaska and pulls up on some walrus on an 190 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: ice flow and puts an arrow into a walrus. And 191 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: it's like the walters didn't even know what happened, right, 192 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: He's just kind of curious what had happened. It's like 193 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: the walrus just didn't even like register the shot. Remember, 194 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: it's just like a different that's what that was, a 195 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: real world test. That's pre that's pre Marine Mammal Protection 196 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: Act obviously. So you might have a point where just 197 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: like the standards have changed over the years. But I expected, 198 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: just after hearing about O'Connor all these years, I expected 199 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: to read it and have the guy who had some 200 00:11:52,240 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: reasonable things to say about making the shop, right, Like, 201 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: here's this old guy, the old guard, right, your master, 202 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: the original, and you read and you're expecting to hear 203 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: like just great insights about making the shot. Instead, it's 204 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: just a book of page after page after page of 205 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: you know, five bucks came running by and we all 206 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: just opened up. We got order. We don't know if 207 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: we had any. Yeah, you were. You went in there 208 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: with expectations. That was where you messed up. He went 209 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: in there thinking you knew what what you're gonna read there? Um, 210 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: But he's a good writer. Yeah, No, I just I 211 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: feel like he was just a he was I mean, 212 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: what do you want to call it? A gun writer 213 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: or a trigger trigger an adventure writer. He just wrote 214 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: about the hunts that he went on. You know. Yeah, 215 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: it's been difficult for me reading reading Jack. Well, the 216 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: reason I gave you sitting on the I was sitting 217 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: on the couch next to my woman last night reading 218 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: a little Jack O'Connor. I haven't taken it lightly. I'm 219 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: reading to damn thing. My brother told me to read it, 220 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: and you and everybody. Yeah, the other guy still haven't read. 221 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: Every talks about his Rourke, like, what's his name? Ruark 222 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: Rourke ar some big African game hunter Robert. I gotta 223 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: read him too, But I'm kind of you know what 224 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm not into, like was he right in that same 225 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: time period? I'll read anything about hunting that was written 226 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: pre World War One. But I think I'm just not 227 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: cut out for post war post say post war, I 228 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: mean post World War two. I'm not cut off for 229 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: the post war generation of which my father was a member. 230 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: Who and here's his image right here on my desk, 231 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: sitting there with a pope and young Colorado black bear 232 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: that he uh killed. Yanni was commenting on that because 233 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: there's a pack of hounds there and you can no 234 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: longer hunt bears and hounds in Colorado. That and his 235 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: apparel dates that photo. And and before we started recording 236 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: your Jane was talking about how now you know where 237 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: we all run around in synthetics for mountain hunting. And 238 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: he's like, how did you manage all that wet stuff? 239 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: Cotton wool? Yeah, the dudes spend more time tending to 240 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: their duds or did they just spend more time wet? Yeah? 241 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: And it's all relative, you know. It's not like they 242 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: were any more uncomfortable than we are when we're out there. No, 243 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: keep mind too like this. He had spent a couple 244 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: of years hiking from southern Italy up in the Europe 245 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: during World War Two, living in a hole in the ground. 246 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: So imagine like, you know, just people who camp a 247 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: lot can't better you know, so at that way, like yeah, 248 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: maybe after that, like that generation of guys that fought 249 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: probably were able to deal with a lot of discomfort, 250 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: the same way that you and I will deal with 251 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: a lot more discomfort than people who haven't been camping. 252 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: You just learned to get you become accustomed to the 253 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: feeling of wet stuff of Um, watch it, I'm gonna 254 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: do this amazing segue right now. So O'Connor wrote a book, 255 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: and we're here to talk about a book that we 256 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: have that's coming out now, like right now, complete guy 257 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: to hunting, butchering and cooking wild game. Now, when this 258 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: whole thing started, I can't remember how it was, just 259 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: like it became this idea that I had and it's 260 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: the handful of the guys that I worked with at 261 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: zero point zero production. We started like putting together this 262 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: idea of this book because we had been accumulating a 263 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: lot of great images and and information and had the 264 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: luxury of really traveling around meeting a lot of phenomenal hunters. 265 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: The hell you're doing, Honnie sat in a timer um 266 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: and sold this book idea to the polisher I work with. 267 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: We just Speakling Grounds imprint at random House and sold 268 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: this book idea, and I mistakenly put down as we 269 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: were putting his proposal together, I put down the word complete. 270 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be the complete guide to hunting and 271 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: butchering hunting, butchering and cooking wild game. And I learned 272 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: over the following handful of years that you should not 273 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: throw around the word complete when talking about a book, 274 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: because as we started to outline the project, everything that 275 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: came up, you'd be like, well, should we have something 276 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: on this, should we have something on that? And you'd 277 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: always have to say, well, yeah, because this is the 278 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: complete guide. It should have been called the truncated Guide 279 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: the Hunting, Butchering and Cooking wild game, or you know, 280 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: the basic guide, but no, it's the complete guide. And 281 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: we worked on it for a few years. By the 282 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: time it was done, the book came in at seven 283 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: and fifty pages long. When I sat down with my 284 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: publisher and she kindly tried to explain that you just can't. 285 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: It's just very difficult. You just don't really make books 286 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: that big. So we were faced with this thing of 287 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: either trimming the book out now. When I wrote my 288 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: Buffalo book, which is a narrative nonfiction book. Hey, it's 289 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: like a book that tells the story, it actually tells 290 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: two stories. Tells a story of very involved hunt I 291 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: did for Buffalo on a on a special lottery license 292 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: that I drew in Alaska. Tells that story, and then 293 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: along with that story, it tells the story of the 294 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: species of the creature you know, from the ice ages 295 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: up until the present day. Very dramatic story about an animal. 296 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: That was a narrative book that came in long. I 297 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: remember I caught a hundred pages out of that book, 298 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: and it was pain and full to cut those pages up. 299 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: And then the book's better, it reads better. It's like 300 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: I was never writing better. I'll probably I was never 301 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: writing as good and I'll never write better than I 302 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: was writing when I wrote my Buffalo book. I now know. Um, 303 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: I was pre marriage and pre kids. You're smarter. I 304 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: think you're a lot smarter before you get married and 305 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: have kids. Um. You don't agree with that, Yannie. No, 306 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: where's your brain down? It does it? Where's your brain down? 307 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: The exhaustion and you don't have time to read. Um, 308 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: But with this book with the guide book. It wasn't 309 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: like that. Man, I couldn't stand getting rid of the stuff, 310 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: and so we hit them this idea, we're gonna split 311 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: it into big game in small game. And it was 312 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: different than just taking like an exact on knife right 313 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: or like. It was different than just separating it out. 314 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: It just changed the whole nature of the project. And 315 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: that added we had already been over two years anyway. 316 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: That added another year into it to build old the 317 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: Complete Guide the Hunting, Butchering and Cooking Wild Game Volume one, 318 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: Big Game, Volume two, Small Game. A thing that's frustrated 319 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: me um. The name of the book has let a 320 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: lot of people to to to like write and ask 321 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: about like the recipe book, but the cookbooks or butchering 322 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: books they are that. Okay, the books are that, but 323 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: they're much much more in that. And the way this 324 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: thing works, I want you to feel right now like 325 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: you're watching QVC. You're watching a show, an infomercial show. 326 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: So just try to get yourself in that mind frame 327 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: or you're ready to call them with the credit card. 328 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: Because the way the book works is I have volume 329 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: one in my hand. Volume one is available now. Volume 330 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: two will be available a couple of months. Volume one 331 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: is divided into five sections. Section one, what is an 332 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: introduction than even section one. In Section one deals with gear, 333 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: all aspects of gear, with very heavy emphasis on answering 334 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: the types of questions, and we get many hundreds of 335 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: them that come into the me Eater website from both 336 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: new and experienced hunters about gear preferences. So it covers 337 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: gear up to I mean, from hunting out your back 338 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: door to hunting in the deepest back country. Around Section two, 339 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: I don't walk through he's a little bit more to 340 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: explain better section to his tactics and strategies. Okay, So 341 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: it deals with the basics of hunting and lays down 342 00:20:51,840 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: sort of a working vocabulary of different hunting methodologies hunting methods. 343 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: We'll talk about those a little bit more. Section three 344 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: is big game Species and Methods. In this section we 345 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: have very detailed profiles on fourteen of North America's most 346 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: popular big game animals from biologic details, how to read, 347 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: sign best hunting methods, archery, rifle, early season, late season calling, 348 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: lay it all out animal by animal Section four. At 349 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: this point that we're into section four, you're into the 350 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: three page of volume one. So there's three hundred pages 351 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: preceding this, right, but starting at page three you enter 352 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: into butchering, and butchering covers all aspects of of field dressing, 353 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: ordering even up to packaging for the freezer. Big game. 354 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: And it isn't just like how to cut up a 355 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: deer on a workbench at home. We deal with butchering 356 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: issues in back country skinning methods for you know, caping heads, 357 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: black bear rugs, everything, and I'm talking soup to nuts 358 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: or nuts to kidneys with great pictures back at all, 359 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: amazing pictures. Because here's the deal. If you normally go 360 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: on and buy but like what what, here's one thing 361 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: we're able to do. So we've made like sixty some 362 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: episodes of me Eater. Plus I've been hunting and swapping 363 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: pictures of my hunting bodies my entire life. So I 364 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: have a big catalog images, but sixty episodes of me Eater. 365 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: And the way the technology is now, we're able to 366 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: use screen grabs. Okay, so we're able to grab images 367 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: published published, more quality images out of footage to use 368 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: to enhance step by step procedures in the book. The 369 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: other images that well, I'll get to the images of 370 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: the mint. Finally, section five Cooking Big Game. Now this 371 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: section is actual recipes. I'm talking you go into your freezer, 372 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: open the door, pull out a package butchered, and process 373 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,239 Speaker 1: in the way that subscribed in section four, and what 374 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: you actually do with it, I mean teaspoon of this, 375 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: tablespoon of that. Recipes and these are highlight recipes, proven 376 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: great things that I love to cook. The friends of 377 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: mine love to cook recipes that we've kind of developed 378 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: over time by sharing information back and forth, things that 379 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: were inspired by some chefs that I know that I 380 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: like to cook. Wild Game was just like great recipes 381 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: and no make believe recipes. Like a lot of times 382 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: you open up a cookbook and there will be a 383 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: recipe like, you know, take some duck com feet and 384 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: put it on pasta. It's like, dude, that's not a 385 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: rest because you're not telling me how to make duck 386 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: on feet or assuming I'm going out and buying it, 387 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: then I'm putting on recipes Like if that's a recipe, 388 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: then then you might as well put one in there 389 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: called peanut butter and jelly sandwiches or butter and bread. 390 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: You know, these are like real recipes that you build 391 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: from the ground up, not like so many recipes, like 392 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: like God bless them. But when I'm looking at a 393 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: Mario but Tally cookbook, I mean great cook obviously, you know, 394 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: a great guy, great cook. But a lot of times 395 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: like basically going down to the town. You're going down 396 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: to a high end Italian Delhi, buying three or four things, 397 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: coming home and mixing them together, and it's like you 398 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: didn't make any of that jump, like you didn't make 399 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: the panchatta. You know, it's like you're just like compiling 400 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: things that someone else made for you. This is like 401 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: real cooking, ground up full balls, from scratch cooking. All 402 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: that being said, I feel like they're not overly complicated 403 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: like everyone that I've tried out of here, you know, 404 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: read through a couple of times, I'm like, all right, 405 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: I can do this. The restes lay a foundation for 406 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: just understanding how to work with wild game. Right, if 407 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: you weren't doing cooked all the things in here, you'd 408 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: be like, I get it, because if you do, like 409 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: The Big Sky Roasted Head, which is based off a mountain, 410 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: my favorite mountain, one of my favorite mountain man books, 411 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: The Big Skuy by Guthrie Um, he always talked about 412 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: his characters in this book loved to roast mule of 413 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: your heads. So we had a great roast mule of 414 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: your head recipe where you're basically taking like you know, 415 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: it's it's like a it's a taco dish with some 416 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: jowl meat. Once you roast the head for that thing, 417 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: you'll never look at a head, pig, head, any kind 418 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: of head the same way. Again. You'd be like, man, 419 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: there is some treasure inside that head. You might not 420 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: go and make the tacos I describing the book, but 421 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna learn a lot about something that you've been 422 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: throwing in the you know, out in the woods or 423 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: in a dumpster for a long time. So it's meid 424 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: like build up ones foundation. Um, you wanted to talk 425 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: about top of photographer Jnath. Yeah, Well, starting with the 426 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: butchering section, I feel like I've looked through a lot 427 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: of other books have talked about butchering, you know, animals, 428 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: game animals and whatnot, and uh, it seems like it's 429 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: like great pictures without having the writing to explain it 430 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: or vice versa, but not really both together. And I 431 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: feel like we did a great job of you can 432 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: read it. And if you don't quite understand that, you 433 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: look right next to that and there's the image that 434 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, all right, that's that's what they're talking about. 435 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: There's that that pelvit crest you know they need to 436 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: chop out to, you know, to pull the uh, the 437 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: guts all the way through the animals. Yeah, no, I 438 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: think they're good. And we put a ton of embass 439 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,959 Speaker 1: on that. And like someone on our team, Brittany Brothers, actually, 440 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: I mean over all those years on top about we 441 00:26:53,840 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: worked on this, she was during all that time we're 442 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: writing this book, is operating and large as like a 443 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: photo editor to help find and pull out the best 444 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: images to explain everything we explained here. There's a beauty 445 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: quality to it too, because we use a uh, very 446 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: prominent hunting photographer named John Halfer. We hired John when 447 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: we're doing the recipe shoots, so we rented a house 448 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 1: and went up for a week and just cooked and 449 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: tested recipes, photographed recipes. Halfner did that, So all the 450 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 1: food stuff is John halferin working. If you go look 451 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: up John Halfter, you're gonna see like some hunting stuff 452 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: that will blow your mind. John halfern shot all that 453 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: at the same time, just out of the goodness of 454 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: this dude's heart, he opened up his vast catalog of 455 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: hunting images and wildlife images. Yeah, it rivals like anything 456 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: you see in Nagio. I feel like just going to 457 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: his website and just cruise around and look at his 458 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: images and um, you'll find yourself just lost and burning time, 459 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, and just taking to different far away places. Yeah. Yeah, 460 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: After likes to hunt. Man like, he likes to hunt. 461 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,959 Speaker 1: But he's even said to me he'd rather he likes 462 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: to hunt with the camera, you know, likes the photograph wildlife, 463 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: and so we have a lot of great wildlife imagery 464 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: in here. Also the gear like so like jump backtop 465 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: about the gear stuff. We kind of like kick off 466 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: the gear section with a quote by even though it's 467 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: just trash talking gun writers, we kick off the gear 468 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: section of the quote by a gun writer that I 469 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 1: do admire greatly, Chuck Hark, the one and only. Let 470 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: me ask you a quick question, though, Are there any 471 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: others right now? You can just name off the type 472 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: of your head that you do admire. Did I admire 473 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: wore like a gun writer? No? And I'll tell you 474 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: why I'm gonna read the quote that kicks off the 475 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: gear section. I'm gonna read Chuck Hawks's quote. Don't be 476 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 1: intimidated by anyone's experience, including mine. There have been, and 477 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: still are a few good writers with vast experience in 478 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: the firearms field. There are also plenty of plain old 479 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: fools writing about guns and shooting, and plenty of younger 480 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: fools as well. Gun writers, especially those who have to 481 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: produce a regular column, love controversy. That column becomes a 482 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: beast that must be fed every month. So the columnists 483 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: is always hungry for something to write about, and controversial 484 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: ideas generate reader interest in response. Perhaps it is understandable 485 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: if they sometimes go overboard, Just don't go overboard with them. 486 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: The reason I put that the head of the gear section, 487 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: I can't remember who did you find that quote? I 488 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: don't Chuck Hawks actually contributed to volume two or Truck 489 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: Hawks writes this great treatise on the double deuce to 490 00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: twenty two, most popular cartridge ever. He writes a great 491 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: piece breaking down the history and versatility and different ammunition 492 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: options for a small game hunter of the twenty two, 493 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: and it was great. He's the most reasonable gun writer 494 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 1: out there, and it's funny that his quote kind of 495 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: like takes a staff at his profession, because it is. 496 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: It's true. If you open up those things, like you know, 497 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: like newsletters, you get to be like ten overrated cartridges, 498 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: ten underrated cartridges, ten sleeper long range cartridges. It's just 499 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: like what in the world. So we try to cut 500 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: through in the gear section. It's just all the noise, okay, 501 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,959 Speaker 1: because to be honest with you, this is gonna make 502 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: guys cringe, and it's something that people fight about in bars, 503 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, to be honest with you, a lot of 504 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: the distinctions to get drawn between calibers that, let me 505 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: put it different, there's a ton of distinctions and debate 506 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: happening between calibers that are just like you really can't 507 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: tell them apart in a hunting standpoint. No, it's just 508 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: like people like, yeah, I really can't decide between the 509 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: then the It's all it's fighting over nuances. You're fighting 510 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: over very little. And it's like if you're taking reasonable shots, 511 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, if you become aware of your capabilities and 512 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: you're realistic about your capabilities and you're putting your shots 513 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: through luans, it's just like people are writing and debating 514 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,959 Speaker 1: about points that are just pointless. Well, I think they 515 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: should be taking all that energy to talk about their 516 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: damn boots, right or yes, yeah, so much other stuff 517 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: about the calibers where it's the bullet construction or taking 518 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: time to you know, learn about shot places and wherever 519 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: it might be. But I think it comes down to 520 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: just like basic ignorance because people started fighting about caliber's. Yeah, 521 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: I had a guy the other day that did not 522 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: know that the thirty six and the three wind mag 523 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: shoot the exact same bullet. If you choose a hundred 524 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: grain thirty Cober bullet or eighty grain three Cober bullet, 525 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: you can put that same bullet and either one of 526 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: those two cartridges, just put it down, you know, the 527 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: barrel of the respective gun. But people just look at 528 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: one that says Magnum behind it and they think, oh, man, 529 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just like I'm throwing a grenade at 530 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: the animal versus just the old Pidley thirty at six. Well, 531 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: it's just not the case. One bullet. The only difference 532 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: really when it comes down to shoot that animals, that 533 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: one bullet might be moving a hundred feet or tunder 534 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: feet faster that. That's exactly the kind of information that 535 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: try to put in here is like helping people cut 536 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: through some of the noise and make good gear decisions 537 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: without getting bogged down in details. They don't want to 538 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: get bogged down it. But that doesn't mean that it's 539 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: like the thing I focused on on these books and 540 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: we talked about constantly is there not for beginners exclusively, 541 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: and they're not for experts exclusively. Every page in here 542 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: is gonna have something that's gonna surprise you because the 543 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: books give you opinions, right. You get Janice's opinion put 544 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: forth as an opinion on issues, you get my opinion 545 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: put forth as an opinion on issues, and you'll get 546 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: opinions given as such, given as personal opinions from many 547 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: of the best hunters I've been lucky to meet around 548 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 1: the country. The book is full of sections called ways 549 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: in on where like so and so like Chuck Hawks 550 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: weighs in on the twenty two Yanni tell Us weighs 551 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: in on his regiment his yeah, his regiment for practicing 552 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: archery ahead of a hunt. How would you put it? Um? Yeah, 553 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: just the preparation the basically the summer prior kind of 554 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: the year prior preparation. How do you know when you're 555 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: ready for a bow hunt? Basically? Like, yeah, how do 556 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: you know when you're ready to go on a bull hunt? 557 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: For real? Yeah? But I want to make a note 558 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: on that all the ways in I feel like it's 559 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: so reflective of how one becomes a hunter, becomes a 560 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: good hunter on their own because I've had so many mentors, 561 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, I can just saw the top of my 562 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: head list twenty mentors that have all been weighing in 563 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: on me for you know, thirty years, and you just 564 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 1: take a little bit here, take a little bit there, 565 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: and you kind of formulate your own program, you know, 566 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: and then eventually, you know, you can weigh in on 567 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, that that certain subject. But that's how I 568 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: feel like this book is, you know, you can just 569 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: go through there and you know, pick a little bit 570 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: from all these different people and then you know, go 571 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: forth on your own. Yeah, that's the point trying to 572 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: make again and again, it's like, don't discount the information 573 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: that you already know to be true. Like I would 574 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 1: never say, like, oh, pick this up and drop everything 575 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: you found to be true, because this is the real truth. 576 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 1: It's just different. It just it we're learning hunting works 577 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: differently than that. Yeah, and the subject is too vast, 578 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: too ever to do that. I used to always I 579 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 1: mean like I saw you shoot run into Carlac bullets, laot, 580 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: many things were great, love, I've never had a problem, 581 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: and eventually like grew suspicious of the bullet just because 582 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: people are talking about other bullets. I'm like, well, there's 583 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: must be something wrong with my own findings. Don't fall 584 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: into that trap. Like if it works for you, it works, 585 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: But this is gonna help you inform your thinking. And 586 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: it also gets into stuff like even though we're just 587 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: kind of like laughing about these endless controversies about what 588 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: caliber's best. We have a big section called cartridge normanclature 589 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: that breaks down what all these things mean. When you 590 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: hear people say they were out shooting at seventy four 591 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 1: oh five, or you know the difference between the millimeter 592 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: cartridges and the standard like three oh eight cartridges, the 593 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: seven six two by thirty nine, Like how to understand 594 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: these numbers and how to have a conversation with people 595 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: and when they name things, how do they get what 596 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: they're talking about? Not just because you memorize each particular 597 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: cartridge and what it means, but how to make sense 598 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: out of the numerical system used to describe cartridges. Right, 599 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: Maybe that stuff you need to be a better hunter, 600 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: but stuff you just need to be able to process 601 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 1: information better when you're seeing it. Um A lot of 602 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 1: stuff about rifle scopes, defining the terms that you see 603 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: when you buy rifle scopes and the terms you see 604 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: when you buy binoculars, and making sense out of what 605 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: those terms mean, which ones are important and which ones 606 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: are not. A section on muzzle loaders, including an explanation 607 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: of why you should if you're a versatile, well rounded 608 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: big game hunter. And that's really what the books trying 609 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: to make it a was a versatile, well rounded big 610 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: game hunter. Why you should probably think real seriously about 611 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: getting in the most loader hunting if you haven't already. Yeah, 612 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 1: and what look, just looking at that muzzle latter page 613 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 1: makes me think of something because I've just looked through 614 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: the first twenty pages here, and there are companies and 615 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: brands across the board. I think that's important to note that, like, 616 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 1: we weren't held to anybody's check when we were writing this, 617 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: this was done completely independently um. No company, even companies 618 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: I have great relationships with. No company had the door 619 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 1: into this book open to them. You will find recommendations 620 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: for things across the board. You'll find images of many 621 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: different types of gear. It's not it's just not a catalog. 622 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: Don't worry about that. A very thorough explanation of m 623 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 1: o A. What minute of angle means, how it applies 624 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: to you in your life. Rifle cleaning, A heavy section 625 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: on archery equipment, making sense of archery equipment, coming through 626 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: the bs of archery equipment and arrows and broadheads. Field 627 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: maintenance kits. A heavy section on hunting optics. How to 628 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: select optics, what they mean, What you need on a 629 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 1: backpack hunt. What you can do without on a backpack hunt. 630 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: How to decide if you want a X or ten 631 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: X binoculars, and the choice really kind of comes down 632 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: to that unless you already have a good pair. How 633 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: to make sense of range finders. Big thing about blade tools. 634 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: What blade tools you need on backpack and back country hunts? 635 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: What blade tools you never leave home without? Survival kits 636 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: and utility kits. I don't even use the word survival 637 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: kit anymore, because my kit a utility kit, I carry 638 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: that thing I could be hunting like cranes in Texas 639 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: or doll sheep in Alaska. I have a little baggy 640 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: that I switch out what's in it, but just my 641 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: utility kit. It's my emergency kit. And you can have 642 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: emergencies such as like a broken gun anywhere. So how 643 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: to have a kit that you are constantly upgrading and 644 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: adapting for what you're doing that almost eliminates or can 645 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: help eliminate the panic you have when you realize that 646 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: you should have something and you don't have it with you. 647 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: Maps and navigation tools. A very healthy spirited section on apparel, 648 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: How to layer your clothes, how to make decisions between 649 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 1: synthetics and wolves. Is camel clothing and scent control clothing 650 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: worth the expense? The answer is more comp located. Then 651 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: you might think a lot of stuff about staying warm, 652 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff about boots, including my opinion that footwear, 653 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: no foot problems ruin more hunts than any other problem. 654 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,280 Speaker 1: When I think of people just having a bad time 655 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,240 Speaker 1: on a hunt or having to call off a hunt, 656 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: footwear causes that. Yeah, And that's definitely a little more 657 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: true towards like Western Mountain hunting, even freezing your ass 658 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: hunting ducks in Michigan. Right, you gotta have the right 659 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 1: footwear to keep your feet warming, for sure. Yeah, but yeah, 660 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: the blisters and issues mountain hunts, for sure. But just 661 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: like feet problems kill people, feet ruined hunts. What doesn't 662 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: ruin a hunt is that man, I brought my thirty 663 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: OT six and should have brought my three hundred. That's 664 00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: just not in real life. That's not a conversation. You 665 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: hear what you here is, dude, I should have listened 666 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 1: to you when you said that I should break my 667 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: boots in for real before I go on this trip. 668 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: What a waterproof from probably and know how to do 669 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,760 Speaker 1: it because my feet have been went for three days 670 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: and I want to go home. Yanni's wonderful section on 671 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: waterproof and boots the tools necessary, then a big section 672 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: specific to back country hunting because it's like I find 673 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 1: that many guys, like in my age group, my level 674 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: interest in hunting that live in the East want to 675 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: do in their life. You know, they want to do 676 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 1: some bad country hunts. Man. They want to go on 677 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: that Colorado LK hunt, you know, And it's intimidating to 678 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 1: like get into like what do I really need? What 679 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: do you carry? What is actually in your pack on 680 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: a backpack hunt? And I think that this will help 681 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: immensely and it's not pushing one product over another. I'm 682 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: looking at a page here right now. I'm looking at 683 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: an outdoorsments pack system and our carricks pack system, a 684 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: mystery ranch pack system, pros and cons of each. But 685 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 1: basically it's grabbing good gear that I like and that 686 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: my friends like, and kind of rather than boring you 687 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: with the stuff that doesn't work, it's like the stuff 688 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: that does work for people, Why it works for people? Um, Stuff, 689 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: unloading a pack okay, how to handle big weights on 690 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: a pack, how to pack when you're going out that 691 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 1: you know you might be coming back heavy with game, 692 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 1: Sleeping in shelter okay, Tents, bags, sleeping pads, bibby sacks. 693 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: Are they a waste of money or not? I would 694 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 1: say yeah, I'm telling you why I think that they're 695 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: a waste of money. Keeping warm at night and you're 696 00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,919 Speaker 1: sleeping bag camp stoves I'm talking for truck hunt, car 697 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: camping to backpack hunting. Pros and cons of stoves, how 698 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: to use them, how to manage them, how to pack 699 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,919 Speaker 1: food for a hunt. A simple way. You can run 700 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 1: into a grocery store, run into a sporting good store 701 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: and go bam bam bam, and know that you are 702 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: equipped with food for however long you're gonna be out 703 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 1: car camping or backpack hunting. Like just a simple fail 704 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 1: proof system of grabbing food for a hunt where you're 705 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: not gonna run out and you're not gonna come back 706 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: with a bunch of spoiled stuff. You never hate cookwere 707 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: how to handle fire and water meaning purification of water, 708 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: how to get fires when you need them despite then 709 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, whatever the conditions. A very graphic picture of 710 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 1: a crushed finger in back country Risks stand Safe in 711 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: the back country now Section two Tactics and Strategy. Yanni 712 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: walk them through section too. This was gonna include the highlights, 713 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: the stuff that like kind of what's in there, some 714 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: surprising things. I feel like this is where I maybe 715 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 1: learned the most because my main hunting career started, you know, 716 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,879 Speaker 1: once I moved to Colorado at the age of nine, 717 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: team started guiding alkhins and on the same spot all 718 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: the time, and it was shown to me, you know, 719 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 1: because that's where I had to guide where you I 720 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: think it came out west and we're not guiding, we're 721 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: just hunting on your own. And so you just you know, 722 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 1: learned a larger chunk and ground and had to figure 723 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: out on your own how to find these sweet honey 724 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: hooles that I was pretty much you know, shown too, 725 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: and so I feel like you did a great job. 726 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: But really just breaking down like a um a method 727 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: of you know, looking at maps, talking to people, plat 728 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 1: maps and whatever, and little tricks to like go and 729 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 1: find your own honey holes, which is you know, that's 730 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: something that's an important thing I got into with this, 731 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: and I talking about public and private land, how to 732 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: get permissions on private land, mainly how to find spots 733 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: on public land, because I find that a lot of 734 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: guys have a vulnerability, Like you got a guy likes 735 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: to hunt. I've had a lot of friends fall on 736 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,280 Speaker 1: this trap. Man. They like the hunt. They got this spot. 737 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 1: They hunt deer, right, nicolare every deer in the over day. 738 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 1: They shoot a deer and as their spot. Then all 739 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: of a sudden something happens. The guy that owns it dies, 740 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: sells it, his his nephew gets old. Yeah, the guy 741 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: moved Yeah, that's only happened. Your buddy moves and they 742 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,799 Speaker 1: never hunt again because they never figured out like how 743 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: to find hunting spots. It's like, oh, I helped my 744 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: mother in law's place, you know, and then what do 745 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: you get a divorce? You have a mother in law anymore? 746 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: And then it just hang it up because they can't 747 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: fathom the process of beginning to find hunting locations. Oh man, 748 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 1: And I'm going through it firsthand right now, like you 749 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't believe. I'm living that every day. I mean, I 750 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: moved to Montana, yes, and less than a year ago. 751 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: It's my first year lived as a resident in that state. 752 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: I've got a pocket full of tags, and yet I'm 753 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: looking at these maps and I'm like, I mean, I 754 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: have places that I'm gonna go and I'm gonna hunt 755 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: because I've figured it out, But like, I don't have 756 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: anything on my map circle that says go here, proven location, 757 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 1: so you know, and that's the thing to do. I 758 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: get into is like a lot of like not sneaky, 759 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: but a lot of things that people don't think about 760 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 1: trying totally. And I think that shows up even more 761 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 1: in the private land section because so many people I 762 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 1: think I don't know why now, it's it's that way 763 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: when you know, twenty years ago everybody's went knocked on doors. 764 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: But like people, I feel like, just don't do it 765 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: as much anymore, and don't think about trying to go 766 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: and find a free private land hunting spot like they're 767 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: out there and I got yeah, and I include in 768 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: here some strategies for doing that, such ASTHM, it's the 769 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 1: thing that's worked for me many times. As you get 770 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: your foot in the door with a squirrel hunting or 771 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: rabbit hunting permission, yeah, totally that you request in the 772 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 1: winter time when that guy's not getting his door beaten 773 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: down by people, and you proved to be a cool 774 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: guy who like comes out to hunt squirrels, knows how 775 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: to respect the property, knows how to close the gates 776 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 1: a little bit there, it goes a long way next 777 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: to you know, guy brings the guy some zucchini bread, right, 778 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: cook some kind of cool thing with the with the 779 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: rabbits that he got off the guy's property, brings him 780 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 1: by a little bit of that. Maybe even emails the 781 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: dude a couple of pictures saying, hey, man, I thought 782 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 1: you'd like to see um, the awesome dinner I made 783 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: with the squirrels I shot on your place. And he's 784 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: thinking that crazy, some bitch ate those squirrels. I like 785 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: that guy. And pretty soon he's saying to you, you 786 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: know what, you know, if you you know, we got 787 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 1: room out here, you know, if you want to come 788 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: out and hunt deer, you know, go ahead. Yea. And 789 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: again maybe it starts with a couple of does, but 790 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 1: then two years down the line, you gotta look down 791 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: the line and look into the future. And next thing 792 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, he's like, sure you can shoot a buck, 793 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:02,839 Speaker 1: because it's happened to me many times. Yeah. I got 794 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 1: a guy. He's a friend of mine, but he's a 795 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: he's a landowner, and I've been out to his place 796 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: the hunt a few times. And after a while he 797 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: noticed that I never actually really shot anything on this place. 798 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: I'd kind of go out there just to kind of like, 799 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'm gonna come up, but I'd want 800 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: up hanging out and doing stuff with him. You know. 801 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 1: That kind of won his heart in a way. I 802 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,720 Speaker 1: also tell just a couple of actual stories about stuff, 803 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 1: but also public land tricks you might not think of, 804 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 1: like something I like to do, and I've done with 805 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 1: some success now and then is be undercover in interview 806 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: hikers at trailheads, not telling them what you're actually trying 807 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: to drive at, but just talking to like, hey, what 808 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: do you see? What do you hear? You know, do 809 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 1: you guys see any blank up there? And you can 810 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,280 Speaker 1: get some up to date information that if you jumped 811 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 1: out and said, yeah, I'm hunting Dad kept quiet. Sneaky 812 00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 1: little things many of them how to read apps, a 813 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: bit about using trail cameras, and the main thing how 814 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 1: to access areas other guys are accessing. And I don't 815 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,360 Speaker 1: mean because it's way off in the mountains. It just 816 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: could be because you know, you're like parking, you know, 817 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 1: alongside of power line and your hammer and ducks are 818 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 1: in this case big game, your hand, your hammer and 819 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 1: deer and some spot that guys aren't hung They never 820 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: thought to bring a pair of chess waiters with them. 821 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: And the first thing you gotta do is wait across 822 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 1: a couple of big ditches and also realized no one's 823 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: going over there. They all go into the other direction 824 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: because it's like they want to get away from the car. 825 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: Almost almost fought you on publishing that little tip because 826 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 1: I know I know guys that do it, and literally 827 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 1: they takes them an extra ten minutes of getting up 828 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,760 Speaker 1: earlier in the morning to in that way. They can 829 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: put them on across the river, take them off. They 830 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 1: stash under a tree, and they have haunting grounds that 831 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: are just like under people's noses. But people are like, oh, river, 832 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: keep driving. Can't get across that thing. You know, if 833 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: you hunt white tail or, you hunt pheasants and stuff, 834 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 1: and you don't have chess waiters sitting in the back 835 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 1: of your truck, your awn moron. Yeah, A big thing 836 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 1: about tags and licenses, just kind of breaking down tag draws. 837 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,959 Speaker 1: It's the thing people are always wondered about. Breaks down 838 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: over the counter stuff, How over the counter stuff works, 839 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:24,879 Speaker 1: How registration hunts work, how stuff like governor's auctions. Are 840 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 1: governor's tags good or bad? We talked about that and 841 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 1: kick that issue a long um. I'm talking like in 842 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 1: an ethical way. How do you feel about governor's auctions? 843 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: How you feel or like how to work? Now? How 844 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 1: you feel about how to work what's called landowner tags? 845 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 1: How to play the points game for dream hunts in 846 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: Western states? What are the toughest, coolest tags you could 847 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: possibly draw. M hm. I researched that little piece and 848 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 1: that was interesting to me and someone that haunts a 849 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 1: lot to really see what are some of the toughest 850 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 1: tags draw that you know most of us will never 851 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: ever draw. But I was surprised to find one on 852 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 1: the east coast of the country, and I'll keep that 853 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,240 Speaker 1: a surprise for you. Then we get into the methods, 854 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 1: and it starts off with spot and spot spots and 855 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 1: stock hunting, and I feel like this is it's a 856 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 1: basic overview if each one of these methods, but there 857 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: are points where it gets so detailed that I can't 858 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 1: call it just a basic overview of spot and stock 859 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 1: hunting anymore. UM got a map that shows you a 860 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 1: great way to already pick your glassing locations before you 861 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 1: ever even set foot in the country. UM. All different 862 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 1: kinds of stuff on glass ng how to how to 863 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 1: use different methods of glassing, whether it's like how to 864 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 1: work or patch ground the pair of binoculars. Like you 865 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: sit down and here's like three sixty degrees of terrain. 866 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,359 Speaker 1: You don't glass it like you think you'll just sit 867 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 1: down and be like, oh, let start looking around my binoculars. 868 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 1: It just doesn't work that way. There's a system, there's 869 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,320 Speaker 1: a way you break up the landscape and prioritize the 870 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: landscape and study it and chunks and that's explained here. 871 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 1: I mean you mean you right now just lost in 872 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 1: uh in reading? Yeah, we're just looking at the pretty 873 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 1: pictures binals versus spot and scopes. When is each appropriate 874 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 1: for spotting stock hunting? Things like what do people talk 875 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 1: about when I say you're gonna put them to bed? Okay? 876 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 1: Or how to plan stocks on animals you found? You 877 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 1: see them go into their bedding area, you see them 878 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,400 Speaker 1: go into their feeding area, how to pattern their movements, 879 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:43,439 Speaker 1: how to plan stocks according to wind intopography? Big issue. Yeah, 880 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 1: actual actual diagrams and pictures showing that stuff, Like, hey, 881 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: here's a picture. This is actual place that I saw 882 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: an elk, I made a stock, This is how I did, 883 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,800 Speaker 1: This is what the wind was doing. And um it 884 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,439 Speaker 1: just hammers at home, you know when you can see 885 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,959 Speaker 1: it in a picture like that. How the wind behaves 886 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 1: on a mountain like you always have like wind direction right, 887 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 1: but the wind gets squirreling in the mountains due to 888 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 1: thermals and the structure of a mountain and how to 889 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 1: like make predictions about what the wind's gonna be doing 890 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 1: and things that override dominant wind conditions. Okay, detailed stuff, 891 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: but very important. And anyone who's hunting in the mountains, 892 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,879 Speaker 1: especially the bow, is gonna know exactly what we're talking about. 893 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: This is gonna make sense of some of the observations 894 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 1: they may have had or some of things they didn't 895 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 1: put together. Ambush hunting. Yeah, I love our illustration here, 896 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 1: and we've got to give a shout out to Pizza 897 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: Chevski because he did an incredible job with our illustrations. 898 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 1: And it's basically just an illustration showing six different ambush points, funnels, 899 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 1: pinch points, whatever you want to call them. And you're 900 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 1: probably never gonna see exactly what one of these looks like. 901 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,280 Speaker 1: But when you look at the whole overall illustration ation, 902 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 1: you get the idea of, Okay, when I'm in the woods, 903 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 1: this is what I'm looking for. This, you know, this 904 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,439 Speaker 1: would be a great place to set up an ambush. Yeah, 905 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 1: like how to anticipate funnels and pinch points. I learned 906 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 1: to start thinking about game in terms of funnels and 907 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,320 Speaker 1: pinch points when I was a fur trapper because in 908 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: the fir trap you're looking at a grand scale. Okay, 909 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,880 Speaker 1: how are animals just gonna move across the landscape? But 910 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 1: at the same time, how are you going to get 911 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 1: them to place their foot on a one and a 912 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,280 Speaker 1: quarter inch circle a trap pan? So I really started 913 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:34,840 Speaker 1: to think about stuff that way. I also started to 914 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: be like, why do always catch fox here? Not there? 915 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 1: And you step back and look at aerial photography and 916 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,440 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, man, I can't believe. I never realized 917 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:47,320 Speaker 1: that this power line or gas line connects all this 918 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,839 Speaker 1: different agricultural land and the animal can basically run down 919 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,840 Speaker 1: this power line and hit farm to farm to farm 920 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 1: to farm, you know, and and travel on a clear path. 921 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,359 Speaker 1: And you go like, that's why there's always five there. 922 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 1: It's not because like whatever, how the fields laid out 923 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 1: is because he got put there by his path, you know, 924 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 1: by the best way for him to travel the landscape. 925 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:13,400 Speaker 1: So stop on that. Where we at with time about 926 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 1: fifty minutes? All right, everyone, I know you're enjoying the 927 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 1: Meat Eater podcast, and you're especially enjoying it because it's free. 928 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 1: And to keep it that way, we gotta take a 929 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 1: quick break to thank our sponsors. Still hunting, Yanni had 930 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,240 Speaker 1: you don't he worked because Jean he's a still hunter, 931 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: like he likes a still hunt for elt. And we 932 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 1: get into how still hunting is different than just walking 933 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,319 Speaker 1: around in the woods m hm, which essentially what it 934 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: is and why I love it is love taking very long, 935 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 1: slow walk through the woods with rifle in hand. But yeah, 936 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 1: it breaks it down. Decoys and calling another very detailed, 937 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, long and and again these are the basics 938 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 1: in each uh species by species section. We revisit decoys 939 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: and calling for elk, we revisit spot stock hunting for elk, 940 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 1: and you'll actually find more words written in that section, 941 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 1: you know, specifically you know, to that animal about spot 942 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,439 Speaker 1: stockhunning that you do here in the basics section. Yeah. 943 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 1: That's the thing that I want to point out about 944 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 1: the books, like, if you get into the books start 945 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 1: reading them, is you can't just be like, oh, I 946 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:33,799 Speaker 1: like to hunt elk, therefore I'll skip ahead and read 947 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 1: the elk section. It just doesn't work that way. If 948 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 1: you are if you just hunt white tails, I would 949 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 1: still suggest that you read the entire book because you 950 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:51,279 Speaker 1: will constantly find insights and ideas everywhere in this book, 951 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 1: they're going to pertain to your life, your type of honey. 952 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,360 Speaker 1: As a great example, Jay Scott and Dark Holborn of 953 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,120 Speaker 1: Cobner Scott alfres A in on judging big horn rams. 954 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 1: The way that these guys methodically go about doing this 955 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,400 Speaker 1: for big horn rams, you could take the exact state 956 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,439 Speaker 1: principles and apply it to any other animal if you're 957 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 1: into you know, judging, you know, uh antler size or 958 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 1: whatever it might be. And these guys have to know 959 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 1: this because they're sheep guides. And when they get a 960 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 1: high paying client that comes in and he wants a 961 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 1: sheep of ex caliber, it's these guys that eventually say 962 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 1: that's the one you're after. And their livelihood, you know, 963 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 1: they're like business depends on their ability to say, like 964 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 1: what that thing is. So to hear them talk about 965 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 1: how to look at an animal. If you like to 966 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 1: hunt bears, and and you don't care about shooting record 967 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 1: book bear, you just don't want to be surprised and 968 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 1: walk up and realize you shot like a seventy pound 969 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,400 Speaker 1: one year old female because you'd rather have two hundred 970 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,479 Speaker 1: pounds of meat. Learning their idea about how you look 971 00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 1: at an animal, how you compare animals to other animals. 972 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 1: How you make these decisions is gonna apply to your 973 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,120 Speaker 1: life as well. Or you might be in the area 974 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 1: where you have certain requirements you have to meet. It's 975 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 1: gotta be a brow time bowl. Brow time has gotta 976 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,439 Speaker 1: be six inches long to be able to kill elk. 977 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 1: Elk's gotta be a branch antler bull. It's got to 978 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: be a full curl sheep to be legal. Right. How 979 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 1: to look at animals and not just be blown away 980 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 1: in surprise when you see him, but how to look 981 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:29,200 Speaker 1: at them you know objectively and make determinations about the size, age, 982 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 1: characteristics of the animal you're looking at. A lot about 983 00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 1: drive hunting. I grew up drive hunting for white tails. 984 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 1: There's a big part every year, a few days you 985 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: spend drive hunt for white tails. How to do a 986 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 1: drive hunt, how to try to pull off drive hunts 987 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 1: in the mountains where it's very difficult, And then a 988 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 1: lot of things. I'm being a backpack hunter. Earlier we 989 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 1: talked about back country gear. Here we talked about back 990 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:58,000 Speaker 1: country living. How to camp in the back country on 991 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 1: a hunt and not ruin your own hunt chances by 992 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 1: leaving too much of a footprint. How to deal with 993 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 1: grizzlies making the shot. A lot of information about shot 994 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 1: placement for Big Game, about actually shooting and marksmanship, different 995 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,160 Speaker 1: types of rusts. How to aim on animals in a 996 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 1: variety of positions. How to decide what sort of hold 997 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 1: on an animal you need according to where it is 998 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:28,040 Speaker 1: and what it's doing. Shots not to take, how to track, 999 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 1: how to you know blood trail, How to look at 1000 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 1: a patch of blood and cellt tell what you're looking at, 1001 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 1: whether you did a good job or a bad job. 1002 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 1: What you might anticipate happening. How to read an arrow 1003 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 1: after you When you find your arrow after shot, what 1004 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,480 Speaker 1: does that arrow tell you about your hit? And now 1005 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 1: that it's not just like, oh, what's gonna It's not 1006 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: just like looking into a crystal ball. It's gonna tell 1007 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 1: you how to behave according to what you see on 1008 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 1: that arrow. How long to wait, why you're waiting, the 1009 00:59:55,600 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 1: risks of waiting, How to make decisions. Big Game section alphabetical. 1010 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 1: We start with antelope. Each section like this. You like 1011 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 1: the antilope section. It's got basics. Okay, we have each 1012 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 1: animal has a bar room banch. We'll tell you something 1013 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,240 Speaker 1: surprising about the animal you do not know. Barroom banter 1014 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 1: is meant to make you a cooler guy to talk 1015 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 1: to at a bar. Could you be able to tell you, like, 1016 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 1: you know what, I'll tell you one thing and you'll 1017 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 1: tell the person the thing you read in barroom bands 1018 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 1: and they'll be like, no, ship, Yeah, diet, life and death, 1019 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 1: how long only live in? What kills him is life 1020 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:41,080 Speaker 1: and death, Breeding and reproduction? How that goes down for him? 1021 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: Kind of habitats. They'd like telltale signs, they'd like distribution, 1022 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 1: So it's your classic where it lives. What's cool about 1023 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 1: that is next to that is hunting opportunity State by 1024 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 1: state hunting opportunities map. Where it breaks down that animal 1025 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,439 Speaker 1: not just in his distribution, but whether it's what weather. 1026 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:04,520 Speaker 1: Hunting opportunities in a state are widely available, of limited availability, 1027 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:09,000 Speaker 1: where you have the animal but there's no hunting for it, 1028 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 1: and where it's just not present, so it's not an issue. 1029 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 1: If you look at the big horn sheep hunting opportunities map, 1030 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 1: it's all limited availability. There's no easy way to get 1031 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,520 Speaker 1: a big horn tag analope, it's split half the state's 1032 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 1: widely available and we explain what that means and how 1033 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 1: to go about getting those tags. Half the state's limited availability. 1034 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 1: You gotta do a draw to get an analope tag. 1035 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 1: It will help you think about destinations if you want 1036 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 1: to go on that big Western hunt. Then edibility just 1037 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 1: thoughts and edibility general thoughts on hunting opportunities, and then 1038 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 1: hunting methods. So early we're talking about spot stock hunting, 1039 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 1: ambush hunting, decoys and calling. Okay, those then get applied 1040 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 1: in a very specific way to each of these animals. Archery, firearm. 1041 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 1: How to do all those hunting methods? How did that apply? 1042 01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 1: Are the appropriate for the animal or not? If so, 1043 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 1: what particular things do you need to do to make 1044 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,480 Speaker 1: those methods described in the hunting methods section work for 1045 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:10,360 Speaker 1: the species. So we get an animal, then we're rolling 1046 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 1: the big horn sheep big orang sheep. For the hunting methods. 1047 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,680 Speaker 1: The main thing I talked about big orange sheep is 1048 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 1: I get into some details about tag draws. The only 1049 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 1: way you're gonna hunt a big horn unless you're loaded, 1050 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 1: and I explain how to do it if you're loaded. 1051 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,440 Speaker 1: If you're not loaded, how you're gonna hunt big horns. 1052 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,480 Speaker 1: You're gonna win a lottery tag for a big horn tag. 1053 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:32,400 Speaker 1: This section is basically devoted to that if you have 1054 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 1: a life's goal of hunting a big horn, how do 1055 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,160 Speaker 1: you start right now? At what age is it too 1056 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,800 Speaker 1: late for you to start? What age is that you 1057 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,840 Speaker 1: should start now? And here's how to kind of begin 1058 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,440 Speaker 1: and how to kind of think about getting the tag. 1059 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 1: And if you read the rest of the book and 1060 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 1: learn how to spot in stock and still hunt whatever, 1061 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 1: you'll be prepared when you do draw that tag, will 1062 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 1: be prepared for a big one hunt. Black bear long 1063 01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 1: section on black bear, because you gotta deal with coastal hunting, 1064 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 1: my hunting, hunting, fruit orchards, bait, pile hunting, hunting everywhere 1065 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:11,760 Speaker 1: from Maine to California, spring and fall. It's a big subject. 1066 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:17,400 Speaker 1: And our hunting opportunities maps. You know, this information changes 1067 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:22,760 Speaker 1: because animals fluctuation. The population of these animals fluctuates, and 1068 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 1: so in ten years, you know these mass would be 1069 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,920 Speaker 1: spot on. But working on the hunting opportunities maps was 1070 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 1: very interesting to me because you just have no idea. 1071 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 1: You just always focus on your own state where you live, 1072 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 1: or your region of the country, and you go, wow, 1073 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 1: you can actually hunt black bears. It looks like in 1074 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 1: more than half the states in our country. I had 1075 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 1: no idea until I worked on making that map. So 1076 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 1: I feel like out of every section when you look 1077 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 1: at those, you know just kind of give you more 1078 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:54,240 Speaker 1: of a um you know, continental, We're not continent wide, 1079 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 1: but you know, countrywide view of where these animals live 1080 01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 1: and where you can hunt them. Now, as far as like, 1081 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 1: we got an Appalachian bear hunter got it goes by 1082 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 1: the name Shing Daddy. He weighs in on bear on 1083 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,000 Speaker 1: how to establish a bear bait station, all his thoughts 1084 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,240 Speaker 1: on that. Then we got Jared Finker, Wisconsin hunter weighs 1085 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:15,200 Speaker 1: in an archery stand placement for bear baits. So if 1086 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 1: you're hunting bow over bear bait, how you go about 1087 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 1: thinking about positioning your stand. We got another guy and 1088 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,800 Speaker 1: Idaho bear hunter Chad Bart weighs in on places stand 1089 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 1: near bear bait. For rifle hunting, what are the special 1090 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,440 Speaker 1: considerations you have to take into a fact when you're 1091 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 1: doing you have to think about when you're doing bait 1092 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 1: pile hunting with a rifle. All very different blacktail deer 1093 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 1: Okay range from California on up into Alaska. How to 1094 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 1: work topography for blacktail deer, the difference be a blacktail 1095 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,120 Speaker 1: deer hunt in September and November. How the animals move 1096 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:58,400 Speaker 1: and use their landscape. Buffalo, A little bit about buffalo hunting, 1097 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,320 Speaker 1: a lot about how to handle big carcasses. That's the 1098 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,120 Speaker 1: thing I think of when I think of a buffalo hunt, 1099 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,080 Speaker 1: is you're handling a giant carcass. So early I mentioned 1100 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:07,640 Speaker 1: like it doesn't matter what you do, you're gonna find 1101 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 1: good stuff in all these chapters. I don't care if 1102 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,960 Speaker 1: you hunt moose, cariboo, whatever. You're gonna learn a lot 1103 01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 1: about handling big carcasses and handling big carcasses in grizzly 1104 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,640 Speaker 1: country in this section that you'll be able to apply 1105 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 1: to any situation you're in. Caribou. Careful detail on cariboo, 1106 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 1: and a lot about my favorite way to hunt them, 1107 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:34,360 Speaker 1: which takes into effect the funnels. So early we talked 1108 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:38,800 Speaker 1: about funnels, pitch points. We get into greater detail with cariboo. 1109 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:43,880 Speaker 1: How lakes impact cariboo movements, How valleys and valley floors 1110 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:49,720 Speaker 1: affect cariboo movements, How mountain passes affect cariboo movements. Some 1111 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,640 Speaker 1: tricks to dealing with air carriers and bush pilots when 1112 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,040 Speaker 1: you're trying to do a you're guided cariboo hunt. How 1113 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 1: to tell a male from a female, which is a 1114 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,680 Speaker 1: lot more difficult than you might think, because is they're 1115 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:04,280 Speaker 1: the only antlerd animal we have where the females carry 1116 01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 1: antlers here in North America. Doll sheet a personal favor 1117 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 1: to mine, But again, the chapter has a lot to 1118 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 1: do with hunting in the mountains and living under very 1119 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 1: difficult circumstances. How to get in a position where you 1120 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,920 Speaker 1: can put on a lot of miles in the mountains 1121 01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:29,440 Speaker 1: every day without wearing yourself out. Rick French and Alaska 1122 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 1: sheep God. He weighs in on the dudes and don'ts 1123 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,520 Speaker 1: of dolls sheep hunting, and it is probably you know, 1124 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,240 Speaker 1: it's a couple of hundred words that has more wisdom 1125 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 1: about sheep hunting in it than anything you're gonna find. 1126 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 1: We get into elk and Yanni worked tirelessly on the 1127 01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:53,080 Speaker 1: elk section. Break down some thoughts here Yanni mm hmm, 1128 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,120 Speaker 1: including a sweet picture carved into a tree that Yanni 1129 01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,960 Speaker 1: found of an elk, which is kind of amazing looking. Yeah, 1130 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,640 Speaker 1: it is great I'm glad, I know exactly Hopefully that 1131 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,720 Speaker 1: tree still stands for quite a while I can go 1132 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,720 Speaker 1: back and look at it. That's in Colorado. A more 1133 01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,600 Speaker 1: than likely a um what they call him arbor lifts, 1134 01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:16,640 Speaker 1: a sheep order that they usually come up from South 1135 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:21,200 Speaker 1: America during the summer in Colorado. Herd sheep come from 1136 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 1: place all over the place. Uh, Peruvians and uh, I 1137 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 1: can't remera some me. Anyways, you see a lot of 1138 01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 1: arbor lifts on the aspens in Colorado. And uh, it 1139 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,520 Speaker 1: was funny because where where I found this. This is 1140 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,800 Speaker 1: on a scouting little scotty mission I was doing, and 1141 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 1: I think like a week or ten days later, we 1142 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 1: ended up killing two cows within a couple hundred yards 1143 01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,280 Speaker 1: of that tree. Yeah, so that thing too. It's like 1144 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,760 Speaker 1: this book takes time for beauty. Man, This book has 1145 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:51,640 Speaker 1: a nod towards the beauty of the natural world. Yanni 1146 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,040 Speaker 1: gets real heavy into yeah, you know, Yanni was an 1147 01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 1: ELK Guyau's real heavy into calling, how to makes sense 1148 01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 1: a game calls, how to use game call? Yeah, and 1149 01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,480 Speaker 1: especially here for ELK, you know. And again the illustrations 1150 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,800 Speaker 1: that uh, you know, we came up kind of with 1151 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,680 Speaker 1: the ideas and then you know, Pete Zachoski was able 1152 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 1: to actually put him into you know what now looks 1153 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,360 Speaker 1: like art and you really get a good sense of 1154 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,759 Speaker 1: when we when we, you know, in text, talk about 1155 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 1: the T booning technique and what that means to kind 1156 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,479 Speaker 1: of you know, basically parallel herd, you know, waiting for 1157 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,600 Speaker 1: the right opportunity to to bank in and make a 1158 01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,960 Speaker 1: move and try to get a shot. And uh again 1159 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,200 Speaker 1: he put it into a beautiful illustration. Yes, say, we 1160 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:32,680 Speaker 1: talked a lot with the l khuns where you know 1161 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:34,760 Speaker 1: a lot of great elk hunters and and I used 1162 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,519 Speaker 1: to be an avid archery l hunter. As you kind 1163 01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,400 Speaker 1: of talk about like what's your strategy and you'd be like, oh, 1164 01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:41,960 Speaker 1: we kind of just get close to and wait for 1165 01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,800 Speaker 1: something to happen. Yeah, you know, like, well what does 1166 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,320 Speaker 1: that mean exactly? And he honest breaks down with the 1167 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,080 Speaker 1: thing he calls t bowning. He breaks down like what 1168 01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,880 Speaker 1: that means when you get into a herd, how you 1169 01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,120 Speaker 1: can stay near her without that herd? No, when you're 1170 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,960 Speaker 1: there and what you're doing when you're waiting for like 1171 01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:01,320 Speaker 1: what we call something to happen happen and how to 1172 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:05,120 Speaker 1: help it happen. Um and mainly just like staying close 1173 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,320 Speaker 1: to elk without elk know when you're there. We have 1174 01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,600 Speaker 1: a section called a bunch of things to keep in 1175 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 1: mind when calling out, just bullet pointed stuff that might 1176 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,800 Speaker 1: not fit into the text, but it's just like stuff 1177 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,559 Speaker 1: you gotta have. And again, ambush hunting is covered in 1178 01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:24,280 Speaker 1: regards to elk. Still hunting is you're covered in regards 1179 01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:30,280 Speaker 1: to elk. All of it's there. Have Alena. It's not 1180 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:35,559 Speaker 1: a celebrated game animal. It should be this Mainly the 1181 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,720 Speaker 1: goal of this chatter is to make you realize that 1182 01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:41,400 Speaker 1: you are insane if you don't hunt. Have Alina. Big 1183 01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,759 Speaker 1: thing on moose. Okay, everything you want to know about 1184 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:49,479 Speaker 1: moose hunt, Alpine stuff, low country stuff, main stuff, Alaska stuff, 1185 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,360 Speaker 1: how to gauge legality of moose, which is very tricky 1186 01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:53,720 Speaker 1: for anyone who wants to go do a do it 1187 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,639 Speaker 1: yourself moose hunt in Alaska where they tell you it's 1188 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,880 Speaker 1: got to have a fifty and spread or four brower. Times. 1189 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:04,800 Speaker 1: You have never known stress in hunting until you've pulled 1190 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,640 Speaker 1: the trigger on a moose and then you gotta get 1191 01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,719 Speaker 1: over there. And find out if your calculations were correct, 1192 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:13,320 Speaker 1: how to like think about that, and how to not 1193 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 1: make mistakes, and a very good definition and explanation of 1194 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 1: why you should never pull the trigger on a moose 1195 01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,920 Speaker 1: If you think he's fifty and that's all you're going 1196 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,679 Speaker 1: by is your estimation of him being fifty inches wide. 1197 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,720 Speaker 1: You need more than that. You need more than oh, 1198 01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,679 Speaker 1: he's got to be fifty, um. How not to make 1199 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:40,160 Speaker 1: mistakes that could land you very serious legal trouble with 1200 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:44,800 Speaker 1: a confiscated animal potentially a confiscated truck and firearm like 1201 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:46,640 Speaker 1: how to avoid these kind of mistakes, And that's what 1202 01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:51,960 Speaker 1: information is everywhere in here. How to handle more stuff 1203 01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:57,040 Speaker 1: on handling a big gas carcass, mountain goat hunting, telling 1204 01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,880 Speaker 1: males from females where to go, What kind of mountain 1205 01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,280 Speaker 1: ring equipment you want on a mountain goat hunt, what's 1206 01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,240 Speaker 1: too much? What kind of mountain nearing equipment is gonna 1207 01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,280 Speaker 1: get you in trouble? What kind of mountaineering income uh 1208 01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:14,360 Speaker 1: equipment might save your ass? A picture of my wonderful 1209 01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:19,240 Speaker 1: sister in law six months pregnant with a mountain goat 1210 01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,720 Speaker 1: she killed, going to show that not anyone canna hume, 1211 01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,400 Speaker 1: ountain goats. But someone with the right attitude can do it. No. 1212 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:32,000 Speaker 1: One of my favorite sections twelve pages that are just 1213 01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:37,200 Speaker 1: packed full of awesome information about hunting mule deer and 1214 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,759 Speaker 1: some of the better ways in not better, they're all great, 1215 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:46,599 Speaker 1: but great ways in pieces from Remy Warren, Steve Reid, 1216 01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:54,160 Speaker 1: Colorado hunter and guide Remy Warren, Rody Henderson, all guys 1217 01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,920 Speaker 1: that kill a lot of mule there just kind of 1218 01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,120 Speaker 1: give you, you know, their view of it and how 1219 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 1: they go about it. And here's yawning with a giant mule. 1220 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,640 Speaker 1: Hear he killed on a public land Colorado hunt not 1221 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:14,800 Speaker 1: far from a road. Crunch time hunt, high competition, getting 1222 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:19,040 Speaker 1: Danny's a big thing on wild pigs. Okay, this gets 1223 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:22,600 Speaker 1: into the politics of wild pigs. It gets into the 1224 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 1: definitions of wild pigs. Your razors, back, Eurasian borders, feral pigs, 1225 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 1: wild pigs. How it's all one thing, suits scraffa okay 1226 01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:40,000 Speaker 1: everything spot stock hunting, how to hunt natural baits, naturally 1227 01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:44,120 Speaker 1: occurring baits for pigs, shot placement on pigs, the trouble 1228 01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,120 Speaker 1: you can get in bow hunting for pigs with shot placement. 1229 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:53,080 Speaker 1: Oh humong guy white tail section because a lot of people, 1230 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,519 Speaker 1: a lot of hunters cut their teeth on white tail hunting. 1231 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,320 Speaker 1: The white tail section more than any other sections, is 1232 01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,920 Speaker 1: meant to be a beginner's guide to white tail hunting. 1233 01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,599 Speaker 1: Yet we did a little piece on the gray ghost, 1234 01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,240 Speaker 1: Steve's favorite, the coups Deer. The white tail hunter Chris 1235 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,599 Speaker 1: eber Heart weighs in on public access white tails. This 1236 01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:18,799 Speaker 1: guy's whole deal, like he's devoted his life. They're killing 1237 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,880 Speaker 1: white tail bucks in places you would not even think 1238 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,320 Speaker 1: to hunt, and he breaks his method down for you. 1239 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,559 Speaker 1: He hunts chunks of land you didn't realize you could 1240 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,800 Speaker 1: hunt on, and it kills dude that no one knows 1241 01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:31,519 Speaker 1: her there. And what I love about Chris is that 1242 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,120 Speaker 1: he does it economically out of an old minivan. Yes, 1243 01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,160 Speaker 1: the guy just has a system and he hunts everywhere. 1244 01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,599 Speaker 1: And this guy can roll into a new state and 1245 01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,479 Speaker 1: find bucks that the guys that live there don't even 1246 01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,120 Speaker 1: know where there. As long as you can find, as 1247 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,400 Speaker 1: long as you can afford the tag and some gas, 1248 01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,920 Speaker 1: you can do it. The Chris ebra Hardaway. Doug Dern 1249 01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,840 Speaker 1: weighs in on his favorite white tail hunting method called 1250 01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:57,640 Speaker 1: the mooch. I don't know. We tease him endlessly. What 1251 01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,360 Speaker 1: is that? Because that's a fishing term, you know, it's 1252 01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:04,200 Speaker 1: like banana waite cut plug herring. Your mooch in salmon dog. 1253 01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:08,799 Speaker 1: They mooch deer. Um. It works. It's a fun hunting method. 1254 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 1: We break it down with graphics. They've killed some giants. 1255 01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,080 Speaker 1: Big thing about Jack O'Connor's very own gray goals to 1256 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 1: cous deer. Why is she gett into hunting? Butcher? And 1257 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:21,760 Speaker 1: you know he's the one to call it the poor 1258 01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,439 Speaker 1: man sheet, which I didn't know until I read that book. 1259 01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:31,320 Speaker 1: And uh, it's fitting butcher and big game, big game 1260 01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,439 Speaker 1: in the field. Okay, what's to do in the field? 1261 01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,439 Speaker 1: How to handle large animals on the ground in the field? 1262 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,680 Speaker 1: How to gut a deer the right way? You can 1263 01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,479 Speaker 1: break all the rules, but you got to learn them first. 1264 01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,400 Speaker 1: It's like with writing. You can break all the rules 1265 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,800 Speaker 1: and writing once you learn them. You can break the 1266 01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,040 Speaker 1: rules and gutting once you learn them. Here's like, how 1267 01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:54,320 Speaker 1: to really gut an animal? Well, all your shortcuts and 1268 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:59,120 Speaker 1: gutless method and all that garbage, it's fine, do it well, 1269 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,000 Speaker 1: do it the first few times, and so you know 1270 01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,679 Speaker 1: what product you're after, and then you can mess around. 1271 01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:10,280 Speaker 1: How the gut, how to skin how to leave evidence 1272 01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,040 Speaker 1: of sex, which is which is a requirement in many states. 1273 01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,080 Speaker 1: What that means, the best way, the cleanest way to 1274 01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:19,439 Speaker 1: do it? Field skinning okay? How does skins up in 1275 01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 1: the field? How to skin it under ground? How to 1276 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 1: skin it hanging in the field. Very detailed photography. A 1277 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,679 Speaker 1: bunch of just random field dressing tips. Twelve random field 1278 01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:35,840 Speaker 1: dressing tips. Skinning big game for taxidermy and tanning okay. 1279 01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,360 Speaker 1: How to handle bear hides, deer capes, everything, how to 1280 01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:45,000 Speaker 1: cut away skull plates, handling meat in the field, what 1281 01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:49,360 Speaker 1: not to do, what to do for clean, good, safe, 1282 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:55,040 Speaker 1: healthy meat. Thoughts on aging game meat, bonus parts, or 1283 01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,960 Speaker 1: how to show maximum respect for your prey. How to 1284 01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:05,200 Speaker 1: handle deer heads, dear hearts, kidneys, liver, nuts, tongues, tongues. Yeah, 1285 01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,360 Speaker 1: and this stuff is kind of interspersed to and some 1286 01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,519 Speaker 1: well those sidebars you know about a you know, a 1287 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,439 Speaker 1: tongue or whatever. And that's you know, the true mediator style. 1288 01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:16,160 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, when we take to the 1289 01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 1: next level and give you that give you the power 1290 01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,519 Speaker 1: to you know, to do more how to handle large 1291 01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,479 Speaker 1: Thoughts on handling large from bears and wild pigs. What's 1292 01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:27,080 Speaker 1: it is good for, what it's not good for, how 1293 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,679 Speaker 1: to make it, how to use it. There's another example 1294 01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,120 Speaker 1: of that, breaking down a big game animal. So you 1295 01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,600 Speaker 1: gotta skinned out carcass. You're ready to butcher. How to 1296 01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,040 Speaker 1: break that thing down, how to think about the different cuts, 1297 01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,000 Speaker 1: how to freeze the different cauts, how to bone out 1298 01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:43,519 Speaker 1: what bones are good for stuff? How to do something 1299 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,920 Speaker 1: fast because you don't have time and you gotta get 1300 01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:47,800 Speaker 1: your animal in the freezer because it's hot out and 1301 01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,160 Speaker 1: you gotta be to work, and you want to do 1302 01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,519 Speaker 1: it yourself, but you only got an hour. What to 1303 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,439 Speaker 1: do then that allows you to do a better job 1304 01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,040 Speaker 1: later when you're ready to pull it out of your 1305 01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:59,560 Speaker 1: freezer later. It's like a two stage butchering method that 1306 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,000 Speaker 1: I use all the time. Just how to do it 1307 01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:08,840 Speaker 1: fast and right. How to make burger grinding burger okay? 1308 01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,639 Speaker 1: How to freeze big game eat a variety of methods, 1309 01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,639 Speaker 1: pros and cons for all the ways to put big 1310 01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:19,439 Speaker 1: game in your thing. And finally we get down to 1311 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:25,639 Speaker 1: the recipes. Smoking hands off deer and bears, making pulled 1312 01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:29,759 Speaker 1: pork recipes, the wild game, making stock from wild game, 1313 01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:35,160 Speaker 1: blade in roast asabuco or braids, shank, how to fry 1314 01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:41,960 Speaker 1: up heart and liver, how to do marinades, how to 1315 01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:46,479 Speaker 1: make veal parmesan with game meat, All kinds of stuff 1316 01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,800 Speaker 1: about grilling steaks and marinades and dry rubs and dudes 1317 01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:54,040 Speaker 1: and don't stuff on Burger's jerky, grilling hole loins, making 1318 01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:56,920 Speaker 1: deer heads, all kinds of stuff. I'm making your own 1319 01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:03,920 Speaker 1: fresh sausages and starkoutrie. Stuff about camp meals in the field, 1320 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,880 Speaker 1: preparations of crazy stuff that will blow people's minds. Um 1321 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,000 Speaker 1: a lot of thoughts on burger how to deal with it, 1322 01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:15,240 Speaker 1: some some surprising stuff like mince meat pie with bear 1323 01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:18,160 Speaker 1: lard crust, how to roast a rack of deer ribs 1324 01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:21,120 Speaker 1: out in the field for a great camp meal. It 1325 01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:25,760 Speaker 1: just goes on and on and on and on. That 1326 01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,360 Speaker 1: feels pretty complete to me. Here was a complete guy 1327 01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:32,880 Speaker 1: to hunting, butcher and cooking wild game. Okay, I already 1328 01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:37,240 Speaker 1: have my closing thought. And I'm sorry listeners if we 1329 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,000 Speaker 1: feel like we're rushing out of here, but we have 1330 01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,320 Speaker 1: a big day. We've got some travel, We're heading to 1331 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:45,439 Speaker 1: Alaska for a secret project, secret, top secret. Yeah, we're 1332 01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:47,439 Speaker 1: going out to work on a secret project that is 1333 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:52,200 Speaker 1: not meat either. Yes, we're bringing rifles and fishing poles, 1334 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,519 Speaker 1: but that's for just extracurricular. But it's a part, it's 1335 01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,280 Speaker 1: a part of a master plan. Anyways, My clothing on 1336 01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:09,320 Speaker 1: this monster infomercial guidebook plug here is that, Um, I'm 1337 01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,080 Speaker 1: not brown nose, and it's gonna sound like I am. 1338 01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,960 Speaker 1: But like all Steve's books, it's it doesn't read like 1339 01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:19,880 Speaker 1: some dry how to manual. It is that, but it 1340 01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:24,640 Speaker 1: is intimate and fun to read, and you get to 1341 01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,559 Speaker 1: read other people's words, you know, with all the ways 1342 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,479 Speaker 1: in so like. It's not like you're picking up a 1343 01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:31,640 Speaker 1: textbook and prepared to be bored. No, you're gonna pick 1344 01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,760 Speaker 1: it up and go man, I can't believe it's not 1345 01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,120 Speaker 1: knocked out fifty pages and it's time to go to bed. 1346 01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,840 Speaker 1: I want to hear the anecdote about your your brother 1347 01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,080 Speaker 1: in this book that you just told me yesterday. My 1348 01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:42,800 Speaker 1: brother called me to say how much you liked it 1349 01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:44,560 Speaker 1: when he got a copy, and he's been reading it 1350 01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:48,200 Speaker 1: to his uh, his six year old as bedtime stories. 1351 01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 1: This kid he says his kids fascinated. Here's the deal. 1352 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,680 Speaker 1: Here's here's my concluding thought. Man, I don't want you 1353 01:19:55,720 --> 01:20:00,040 Speaker 1: to think this is just a big bullshit party. And 1354 01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:06,559 Speaker 1: right now, like I honestly, okay, I honestly, I'm very 1355 01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,559 Speaker 1: happy with how these books turned out. I'm very proud 1356 01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,960 Speaker 1: of these books. If I wasn't, I would not be 1357 01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,320 Speaker 1: sitting here like doing this. I'm not just doing this 1358 01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,640 Speaker 1: to sell some books. I really not. It was a 1359 01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,800 Speaker 1: lot of work that a lot of people did and 1360 01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,120 Speaker 1: it's something that I will look at for the rest 1361 01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,160 Speaker 1: of my life and be proud to have been involved in. 1362 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:36,439 Speaker 1: Eighteen nineteen. People, we're heavily involved in the making of 1363 01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:40,640 Speaker 1: this book. Okay, there's a group effort. It's really like, 1364 01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:44,200 Speaker 1: there's nothing else like this exists in the hunting world. 1365 01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:48,320 Speaker 1: I promise you I have read it. Okay, if it's 1366 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,360 Speaker 1: out there, I've read it. Nothing like this is out there. 1367 01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:55,000 Speaker 1: Um you, I'm like telling you, like in a personal way, 1368 01:20:55,400 --> 01:21:01,000 Speaker 1: you will not be disappointed by these books. You really won't. Um. 1369 01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,479 Speaker 1: That's much as I'm gonna say about it. This is 1370 01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:08,479 Speaker 1: the infomercial podcast go by one of you on these 1371 01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:12,479 Speaker 1: T shirts by Complete Guy to Hunting, Butchering and Cooking 1372 01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:16,799 Speaker 1: Wild Game. Volume one Big came available now Stephen Ronella, 1373 01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,479 Speaker 1: um enjoy yourselves. Yeah, and you already gave your clothing thoughts, 1374 01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:28,760 Speaker 1: but I guess it. Peace out, take it easy, Bye bye. Hey, 1375 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,360 Speaker 1: listen up. This sounds like an advertisement, but it's not. 1376 01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:36,439 Speaker 1: It's it's it's different than an add. I need you 1377 01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,840 Speaker 1: guys and gals that listen to go check out The 1378 01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:43,559 Speaker 1: Complete Guy to Hunting, Butchering and Cooking Wild Game, which 1379 01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:47,599 Speaker 1: is written by myself and some people from the Meat 1380 01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:50,760 Speaker 1: Eater team and a collection of the best hunters from 1381 01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:56,320 Speaker 1: around the country. It's a two volume set, Volume one 1382 01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,320 Speaker 1: Big Game. It's coming out in August. Volume two Small 1383 01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:03,719 Speaker 1: Game comes out December. Um again, it's called The Complete 1384 01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:08,000 Speaker 1: Guide to Hunting, Butchering and Cooking Wild Game. 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