1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Which is anonymous with the Laria Baldwin and Michelle Campbell 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Mason and I heart radio podcast. Hey, which is I'm 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: me Laria Baldwin and I'm Michelle Campbell Mason, And today 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: we have on one of my favorite people in the 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: whole wide world. She will make you laugh, she will 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: make you cry, she will make you smile. I'm Caroline, right. 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: You probably know me as aunt Hilda, Hilda Spellman. That's 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: how I know myself. I'm a comedian, I'm on tour 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: and Ava's mother on Phineas and Herbs Mother, I had 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: a day with the vampire. Um, these are always that 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: you can know me, and I'm still as mother. She's 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: my dough. Welcome then, I I feel very grateful. I'm 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: part of the witch family of the generation. But for 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: all the parts I've ever played, um, this is the 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: one that's stuck. Like I think, I'm called aunt Hilda 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: every day of my life. Regardless of the city or 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: country that I'm in. People they just try and gondo 18 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: like hi and hill up. The best was when the 19 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: show was on and it was really big, and um, 20 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: I was on, Uh what the street is it's in 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: Chelsea anyway, I think it was the number nineteen bus 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: and the bus driver pulled up and I was just 23 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: outside and he said that won't held up, and I 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: was like, wow, that's very it's very random that a 25 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: bus driver in London could do that. So we were 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: talking about how you are a comedian. That's nice and 27 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of a lot of times when 28 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: we go to comedy, you know, the the easy joke 29 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: is to go blow and go mean, right, how are 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: you funny? And you're so nice? Well, I made a 31 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: rule a long time ago, don't make fun of anyone 32 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: who's not in the road to defend themselves, unless it's 33 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 1: a public figure that I have a strong opinion about. 34 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: But generally, I really think that I like to find 35 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: what we have in common and then we are then 36 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: collectively laughing at something together, as opposed to anybody being 37 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: laughed at. Because there's something that uh I learned and 38 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: one of my many spiritual teachers, and it's a big 39 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: no note to ever bring um make someone's face rend. 40 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: It's a big spiritual no note to bring a blush 41 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: of shame to anybody's face. So if I ever feel 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: like I've crossed a line, which I really try never 43 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: to do because they're my guests. Like I think it's 44 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: a dinner party and you're my guests. I'm not gonna 45 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: hurt your feelings. I mean, I'll tease you and make 46 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: fun of you, but in no way am I doing 47 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: it without your consent, you know what I mean. Like 48 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: if it's a little like twenty three year old college 49 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: boy last night, I was making fun of him, but 50 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: he was loving it, but I wasn't. I don't like 51 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: the in spirited comedy, and I think very few people 52 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: have mastered it. And I think that you always have 53 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: to be funnier than you are, mean, funnier than you are, 54 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: a political funnier. That's gotta be the funniest thing, right, 55 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: So if you're gonna be a comedian who thinks it's 56 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: funny to be me and you're meaner than you are funny, 57 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: I just think that's like I don't find that funny 58 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: at all, And it makes me uncomfortable, and it makes 59 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: the audience uncomfortable, and I'm wondering why you're doing it, 60 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: But that that's that's me. I don't like it. I 61 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 1: think it's a very joy based activity. Like I think 62 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: it's a gift to be able to make somebody laugh, 63 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: take them out of whatever situation they're in mentally like 64 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: light in the situation. You know, it's a gift. I 65 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: don't want to be. I don't want anybody ever leaving 66 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: my show crying. That would be terrible, you know. But 67 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: the shame thing you really have to think about it. 68 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: Don't ever bring color to someone's face that embarrassing stuff. 69 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: Laugh Laughter being the ultimate release there. I mean, we 70 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: all need it to let go. And I think one 71 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: of the amazing things about your style of comedy that 72 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: you're You're very self deprecating, obviously, and I think that 73 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: that takes immense strength. And it sounds like you have 74 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: a spiritual practice in which you integrate self love and 75 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: self worth, so you can be self deprecating without, you know, 76 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: kind of being mean to yourself. Do you sometimes find 77 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: yourself kind of teetering thels? I really think, Okay, don't 78 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: do that joke, because it's really like self deprecating to me. 79 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: Self deprecating to me is much more female than male. 80 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: I think it's how we neutralize each other, you know 81 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: what I mean, not not neutralized, it's just like it's 82 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: like a comfort like we share in the fact, like 83 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: I've just started talking about menopause on stage, Like basically 84 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: menopause is that you guys are way too young. But 85 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: basically you wake up one day and then you really 86 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: never go back to sleep. You don't know that that 87 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: was your last night's sleep, but you're awake for most 88 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: of the night for the rest of your you know, 89 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: I know, I know, but I could think if you 90 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: are now Sometimes I think, Okay, don't say that. That's 91 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: that's too self deprecating, like it's so my style. But 92 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: then I'm like again, sometimes it's like a way in too, 93 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 1: like I want everybody to be comfortable at my show, 94 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: you know, disarm it disarms people, and it's related. I mean, 95 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: it's just also just you know how my friends and 96 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: I we are always like the best story I've heard 97 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: lately is hooked up with this guy in college when 98 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: she was like twenty one, and she ended up getting drunk. 99 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: They hooked up and then she got drunk and she 100 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: threw up, and she remembered how sweet he was because 101 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: he held her hair when she vomited. Oh my god, 102 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: so prick to literally thirty years later, she hooks up 103 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: with him again she has too much tequila because it's 104 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: fat free. She ends up hooking up and vomiting, and 105 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: she said, and he was so sweet because this time 106 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: he held my boobs out of my face. So like, yeah, 107 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: it self devergating, but it like shows the evolution, you know, right, 108 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: ag is it's got to be something that you acknowledge 109 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: and that it's funny otherwise depressing. Well, you know what's 110 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: so funny that you said this really is that you 111 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: are a witch? Is that one of the things that 112 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: we wanted to talk with you about was meta pause 113 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 1: And I actually just scratched that off, but I'm gonna 114 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: bring it back in because I know. And then this 115 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: is like a serious female topic. Most women, most girls 116 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: before they get their period, still don't know what it's 117 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: really going to be like. And it's there's a shame 118 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: about talking about it. You know, Like when I got 119 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: my period, I had like no idea what was going on, 120 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: and I was so ashamed that I didn't tell my 121 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: mother for like five months. I was like I hit it. 122 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: And then you know, then we go through the years 123 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: that we know you're supposed to grow up, fall in love, 124 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: get married, and have children. You know, and then what 125 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: happens after that. Nobody really talks about the next part 126 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: of this transition. So there's just as much as we 127 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: didn't talk about the moment where we get our period, 128 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: we don't talk about when that starts to change. And 129 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: for me, I have im you know, I have seven kids. 130 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: I don't know like the first thing about menopause, and 131 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: that is really bad. Yeah, well, it's just a weird time. 132 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: It's it's very strange. I gotta say. It's like you 133 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: drive around your whole life by your hormones there at 134 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: the wheel, right, and they're like, find a mate, have 135 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: a baby, be attracted to them, whatever, and then hormones 136 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: are in the backseat. And it's really weird for me 137 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: because being in menopause and my daughter just starting, so 138 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: we are literally like like at the opposite ends of 139 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: the race. Um. And I said to her because one 140 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: day she was in a really crabby mood and she 141 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: goes money sometimes I feel like I literally hate everybody, 142 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: And I said, honey, you might be getting your period, 143 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: because like that could just be like, um, PMS, And 144 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: she's like, what's PMS. I'm like, it's pre menstrual syndrome. 145 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: And I go, it's when your hormones are just like 146 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: they're like hijacking you and your mood and they're driving 147 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: for sure. And um, and I said, there was even 148 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: a case where a woman killed someone, but she wasn't 149 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: sent to prison because she had PMS. That was her 150 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: actual defense because it's so real. And she goes, she 151 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: goes because oh my god, what if I kill you tonight. 152 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, this was he just doesn't. He's went the 153 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: wrong direction, you know what. She got a period the 154 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: next day. Um, so yeah, you kind of talking about 155 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: my father was an ob gianan. We were like you knew, well, no, 156 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: also also wasn't. It was never perceived as empowering. It 157 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: was perceived and then you realize, man can't have babies. 158 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: We can have babies. That's our superpower above and beyond 159 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: that no one will ever understand except you more than others. Um, 160 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: you got the supersion powers. I've tested out once or twice. 161 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: But the yeah, the fertility thing hasn't been celebrated really 162 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: as a power since the opagan era. So it's an 163 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: interesting conversation because it is so profound and so beautiful, 164 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: yet we barely teach young girls how their bodies work. 165 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: It's funny that you didn't learn about it. And we're 166 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: the same age in school, and I read all those 167 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: duty Bloom books, so I knew like way too much 168 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: about my period that I was like ready for it 169 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: for so many years and it never came. And I 170 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: was like, but I've got all these boxes on my bed. 171 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: She taught us everything I think that there was just 172 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: for us. There was like a lot of shame of 173 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: surrounding it. And that was a gymnast. So it was 174 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: like the idea of like starting your if your body changes, 175 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: you're not going to be as valuable in in the sport. 176 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: And that's I know, right, It's it's a really it's 177 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: a I mean, as we all saw, it's a it's 178 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: a pretty you know it can be I should say, 179 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: a very abusive sport. Um. So it's I thought I 180 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: got really big boobs right after puberty, and I was like, 181 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: I still have to not shoulder myself because I was 182 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: so like, you know, you were you felt self conscious? 183 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, completely. I was always like this. So now 184 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, and you know, Eva, it's just shrive six 185 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: ft tall. Yeah I know. And I'm like and she 186 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: you know she's not crazy about it yet because she 187 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: hasn't you know, you're growing into yourself so much. And 188 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: the thing I was realizing, like, part of the reason 189 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: I think we have mean girls is, you know, your 190 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: pheromones get together and you start We used to call 191 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: it because I went to old girls school. We still 192 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: ut menstrual central because your pheromones talked to each other 193 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: and then you all end up getting your period at 194 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: the exact same time. And imagine being in a school 195 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: right full of thirteen and fourteen year olds and they're 196 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: all having like the hormone attacks, you know. But so 197 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: do you think like being in at all girls school 198 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: that and having that experience, do you think I mean, 199 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: we have a lot to say about all all girls 200 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: schools on this show, but do you think maybe like 201 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: that made it extra toxic not having that buffer, or 202 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: it was like a safer space because you were all 203 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: going through the same thing. Ava. When I suggested that 204 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: she'd got on all girls school, she was literally like, 205 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: are you insane? Absolutely not. Never, she would never. She's 206 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: been in co ed schools since, you know, preschool. She's 207 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: got so many great friends that are boys. She couldn't 208 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: imagine it. But I grew up in the seventies where 209 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: I went to a tiny all girls school and I 210 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: love that education because we were taught that, you know, 211 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: it was very important everything we had to say. We 212 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: wore uniforms. It was like the great neutralizer. Nobody was 213 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: comparing outfits, and it was your brain first, first and 214 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: foremost to have a good academic education and to be 215 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: very confident in how you express yourself and what you thought. 216 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: So I think they're great. And I also think the 217 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: thing about girls, if I could change this, like it's 218 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: a fine line, and I'm sure you have this feelings 219 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: about this, but like, manners are the most important thing 220 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: to me to be able to speak to people politely 221 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: and kindly. Number one, I'm always telling able, like if 222 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: somebody's bothering her a school, and like, even if you 223 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: don't like them, just remain neutral. Unkindness was not tolerated 224 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: in my school with I don't I don't think I 225 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: think you could have easily gotten kicked out if you 226 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: had been mean. But as much as they want my 227 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: daughter perfect manners, we were brought up to always put 228 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: everybody ahead of ourselves, and that one I am not 229 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: making my daughter learned that one I think women sometimes 230 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: get sucked into. You have to be very polite and 231 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: very kind, and you have the sort of gentle feminine quality, 232 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: but like, take care of yourself first and foremost. When 233 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: I've ever been on any shows, I remember when I 234 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: was on The Biggest Loser and I said, one, are 235 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: all of these contestants who have struggled with their weight, 236 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: what do they all have in common? And they said, 237 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: none of them have themselves in the priority on their 238 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: list of things to do or take care of. So 239 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: that's the first thing you have to learn as a woman. 240 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: And then all the kindness and politeness that you want 241 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: to display through the world is great. But that's the 242 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: one thing that I learned in all girls school and 243 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: from my mother that I am updating in parents to 244 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: a one with my not too point out with my 245 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: how do you say that we can relearn them or 246 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: learn it for the first time, Not well, we're children. 247 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: Well I think you'll know that you're doing it because 248 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: it'll feel incredibly uncomfortable and you'll be horribly guilty, and 249 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: then you'll go, oh, okay, So those are these weird 250 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: conditioned responses we have, so that we don't do the work, 251 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: which is like there's a weird thing in life. It's 252 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: like here we are, here's what we want, we can 253 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: see it, and then there's the invisible wall of stuff 254 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: we have to deal with in order to get it right. 255 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: So sounds kind of similar to you how even just 256 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: you know, punching your shoulders right and covering yourself, making 257 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: yourself smaller to fit in into that box of being. Yeah, 258 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: there's no ever. My mother was always like, I mean 259 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: that was that was just that was conscious of myos. 260 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: My mother was like, never make your life smaller, never ever, 261 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: you know. I think it's also there's like conformity is 262 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: the devil and we are conditioned. There's like you check 263 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: in with Instagram and so you check in with all 264 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: the conforming websites to make sure that you're in this 265 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: little box and you have to be part of it, 266 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: but you also can't get sucked into it. And I 267 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: think that's what's so hard about freezing girls is that 268 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: that little box of conformity is their comfort zone. We 269 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: don't need to talk about Hilda forever, and I know 270 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: that she she is someone that's brought up to you 271 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: all day, every day, in your life. But um, I 272 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: did want to see if when you became a part 273 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: of Sabrina the teenage, which did you get really into 274 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: which culture did you like dive into it and research 275 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: it and just embrace it, or was it did it 276 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: become you know of it too much? Because obviously it 277 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: was that not as like part of the zeitgeist as 278 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: I think it is today with like witch talk and 279 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: so many people really talking about the history of which 280 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: is and just modern witch witchery online. I was always 281 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: into anything um mystical. I grew up in a house 282 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: that was haunted, and it was nothing to be scared of. 283 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: It was just spirits that we sort of acknowledge. My 284 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: mom was insanely clairvoyant, like to the point that she 285 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: would respond to something that I was thinking in my head. 286 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: She's like the tiptok algorithm. You just have to think 287 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: about it and it shows up. That was my mom. Um. 288 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: So we were just raised to um trust our intuition 289 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: always and instinctual and all the spidy senses and those 290 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: were and and look for coincidences and have meaning that 291 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: is perceived much more than what we're necessarily seeing in 292 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: this world. You know, like there are always messages from somewhere, 293 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: like here's an example when my mom passed away. Well, 294 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: when I was in college and I had to take 295 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: a class on theater craft, which we had to learn 296 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: how to make props just in case we're going to 297 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: make it as an actress. Well, thank god idea, because 298 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: I was never gonna make it as a up master 299 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: because I the assignment was you had to build a clock, 300 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: and we had the whole semester to build it. And 301 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: I took like an old bree pin wheel and like 302 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: painted tim to two. Because all the commercials when I 303 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: was a kid for Time X, the watchers were timed 304 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: to two. So my mother, I think I got like 305 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: whatever one percent more than And my mother thought this 306 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: epic fail was the most hilarious thing in the entire world. 307 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: Did you go, darling, tell me that I'm about when 308 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: you build the Everyone else in my class had working clocks. 309 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: All of them worked, it's easily been props, and mine 310 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: was just like it looked like a sitarator had painted anyway, 311 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: she thought that was hilarious. So I would have worked 312 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: for a more abstract play. So yeah, exactly. So a 313 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: couple of years after my mom had died and I 314 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: spent like two years crying and I was like extremely 315 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: close to my mother. It devastated me so about my daughter. 316 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: And I went to parent Key, which is Bury, not us. 317 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: We were like anyway, And while we were there, I 318 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: went swimming and I had warned my mother's watch every 319 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: day since she died. I never took it off. I 320 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: took it off to go swimming and I lost it 321 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: and I was so upset about it. I was, yeah, 322 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: I was so upset. So a year later, I don't 323 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: know if you've had people that have passed on in 324 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 1: your life and that they've come to you, and I 325 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: think they come to you in different senses. So from 326 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: my mom, my mom always smelled incredibly beautiful. She like 327 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: I love perfume, and she also wore beautiful Gucci and 328 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: Pucci scarves. She always, you know, she was very telling it. 329 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: So I found the scarf of hers and it still 330 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: smelled like my mom. This is like three years after, 331 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: and I was like crying but no tears, but like 332 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: just feeling her hugging me. And I was so happy 333 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: that you know, it doesn't happen all the time, just 334 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: every now and then. So that day my my daughter 335 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: called me and said, Mummy, I had a Nana dream 336 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: and she came to me and I go, oh, she 337 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: goes no, she was talking to me, mummy, and she 338 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: was hugging me. And then I woke up and I 339 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: had this great dream and I looked in the suitcase 340 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: and Mummy, I found the watch. I found me watch, yeah, 341 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: which I could show you if I had a moment anyway, 342 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: she brought me the watch. It's the battery died exactly. 343 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm tended to no. Oh my god, it's going through 344 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: your face where I was like, you know what, I 345 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: was home with Ava. I felt like I was in 346 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: a MoMA, which is like a mom comma, Like you're 347 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: just being a mom. Like that's what you're in. You 348 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: just wake up, You're in your mama. And I thought, 349 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna pursue being an auctioneer. That's 350 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: what I also do, and I'm not going to do 351 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: a comedy anymore. And this was my mother's message, like, oh, 352 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: yes you are. Look how funny this is. Like that's anyway, 353 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: how do you teach your daughter to trust her intuition? 354 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: And look where these kinds of signs always, I mean 355 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: My aim was so intuitive. I remember her asking. She's like, Mommy, 356 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: did Papa live somewhere very hot? And I was like, yeah, 357 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: he lived in Arizona. Just sometimes he's so tanned and 358 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: other times, like when he helps me in the ocean 359 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: if I'm scared swimming, he's all white. And she never 360 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: met him. My dad died. My dad died in the 361 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: next week, kept up pregnant. Wow. Yeah. In terms of 362 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: we're also Scottish, we come from the Kailiacs, which were 363 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: the very old Scottish witches. So I don't think which 364 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: is in the It's certainly never been a bad word 365 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: to me, you know what I mean. And I must 366 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: say it's a weird because I was in Salem once 367 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: and I was I was like the Grand Marshal for 368 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: um the gay Pride grade, and Salem has a creepy 369 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: vide to me that that town. I was like, I 370 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: was like, how insensitive that you've asked a witch to 371 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: come back here? But and it had a weird vibe. 372 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: How did you guys. I'm related to one of the 373 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: oldest which is killed in Salem. She was killed in 374 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: September of She's my grandmother, my great grandmother nine generations 375 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: back on my father's side, and it was, um, it 376 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: was a discovery through you know, DNA testing, and my 377 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: family is actually really on it with intuition and being 378 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: very spiritual open to all of this. But this was 379 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: just something up the tree that had kind of fallen 380 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: out of the fallen to the wayside of the conversation, 381 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: and it was all I do is work in women's stories. 382 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: So when learning this, everything made sense, like this preternatural 383 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: need to understand women's history, connect with women, find ways 384 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: to help them find their voice. And so then we 385 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: met and you know, the combination of being called a 386 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: witch and we both take it as a positive thing, 387 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: but many people don't perceive it as such, combined with 388 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: so much of Hillarias life experiences and you know, kind 389 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: of my life mission made this show just a really 390 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: natural next step for us. And so we are, which 391 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: is but not very anonymous, because it is us. So 392 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: we are. I mean, the idea is that being a 393 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: witch is a good thing. You know, it's our our 394 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: our power and being a woman, there's so much power 395 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: in it. But then people love to poke at us 396 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: and people love to tear us down, you know, we're 397 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: still doing the same kinds of things over and over 398 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: again and tearing people down, both publicly and privately. And 399 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, how can we start to have 400 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: these conversations about women in our relationships with each other, 401 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: Because if we're not on the same team and we're 402 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: not supporting each other, they all this conversation about the patriarchy, 403 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: We're never going to get anywhere. But we're you know, 404 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: we're of the population. If we got on the same team, 405 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: we got this. We're the bigger group. And so it's 406 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: all about, you know, embracing each other and bracing our power, 407 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 1: not getting intimidated from by each other, not tearing each other, 408 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: not judging each other as much, and you know, getting 409 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: to a place where we can collaborate. We don't have 410 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: to all be best friends, we don't even have to 411 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: all like each other, but we have to let live. 412 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: Any time that I in my deeper case, it's like 413 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: any time I walk away from God, I'm like, well, 414 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: this is a very boring, one percent kind of dull 415 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: human existence. And I'm just you can get into a 416 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: very reactive, robotic state in life, right, And I think 417 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: that that meanness that you were talking about Hilaria is 418 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: it's I think there's a lot of women who like 419 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: One of the reasons I'm still doing stand up in 420 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: my fifties, which I really never thought I would continue 421 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: to do, but my mother didn't have a voice at 422 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: this age, so I'm not going to give away mine, 423 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: Like there's no way there's women. My agent needs to 424 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: hear what we're experiencing. So one about the meanness, I 425 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,239 Speaker 1: don't think it's a question of like what can we 426 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: do other than live by example and teach our children. 427 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: That's it. That's you have your sphere of influence, and 428 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: now it's gonna increase because you have a podcast. And 429 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: I think just generating goodness, which you naturally do, and 430 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: be ignoring and being nonreactive to the garbage, Like I mean, 431 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: can't people say stupid things and if you engage with them, 432 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: you empower them or on a few times, I remember 433 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: walking out of an airport when I was on Sabrina 434 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: and I literally had like the pillow mark in my face. 435 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: I used to commute, so I take the Red Eye 436 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: and I worked all day and I got in the plane. 437 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: I took the Red Eye and I was so tired, 438 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: and I walked out of the airport and this guy goes, wow, 439 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: you look a lot better on TV than you do 440 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: in person. And I walked over to him and I said, 441 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: have you been on television for the last seven years? 442 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: Getting up at five and the warning and working and 443 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: then running home because you want to be with your 444 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: family because they live on a different coast than you do. 445 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: But you know that you have to work, but you 446 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: have to be away from the people that you love, 447 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: and then you think that it's okay to say that 448 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: to me. And he was so apologetic, but good, are 449 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: you right? I think in most times they're only empowered 450 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: until you go boom, right. I mean, well, the online 451 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: thing has taken that to the to the next level, 452 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: because you know, it's it's one thing, it's one thing 453 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: to be able to say that in person. And I've definitely, 454 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: I've definitely done that where you know, I've had people 455 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: from you know, publications that I will not name because 456 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: they are the places that we shall not name. And 457 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: I literally went up to them sometimes when they're chasing 458 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: me around, following me, and I said, do you know 459 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: how much you have affected my mental health? I have 460 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: gone through felt where I wanted to kill myself because 461 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: of how much you harass me, because you won't stop, 462 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: and your voice has power you in site craziness of 463 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: people getting obsessed and believing the crap that you put. 464 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: I said, so please leave me alone, and that made 465 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: me feel empowered. Did it work? New? Um? But I 466 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: said it and that felt helpful. But the problem is that, 467 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: you know, the online stuff is it's it just brings 468 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: it to a whole another realm because people create fake 469 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: accounts and there it's just they have all these different 470 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: technologies that somehow you know, talk about powers that they 471 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: can be one account and make many many, many, you know, 472 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: comments or whatever. I don't know. I'm not very good 473 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 1: with technology, and I worry about our kids. I wondry 474 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: about our daughters. You know, are my sons that are 475 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: that are growing up with this and it's very toxic. Okay, 476 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: I have to tell you this as I love you 477 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: and I feel maternal towards you. So the reason why 478 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: you have such like look at your platform. You have 479 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: an enormous ability to affect change, and you want to 480 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: do it from such a good place, right, So the 481 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: enormity of that vessel or channel or whatever you want 482 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: to call yourself is gonna come with the enormity of 483 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: like people trying to stop you. Because there's a weird 484 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: thing in human nature is that people tear down goodness 485 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: or change. So it's just like, if there's any way 486 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: just affirm in your head, I am really on a 487 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: path that nobody's been on and I am doing good 488 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: because it's bothering so many people. I've gotten this many 489 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: people out of their comfort zone that they are rattled 490 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: within themselves, that they're not gonna worry about themselves, they're 491 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: gonna worry about me. And it's so like you should 492 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: be empowered by it. You should just literally learn to 493 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: be like delete. They don't get your attention, And I 494 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: think it comes from I'm not getting a Capricorn thing 495 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: because Capricorns are so committed to doing the right thing 496 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: and that's all you ever do. So you're just like, 497 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: how can you have perceived me to not have done 498 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: the right thing? One You've got to just go you're human, 499 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: whatever it is. You feel like like there's something in 500 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: you that's saying maybe they're right, because otherwise you'd be 501 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: like everybody, you know what I mean? And I think 502 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: that what we're talking about, is that woman nous where 503 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: we go, well, this must be my fault because that's 504 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: our that's how we're raised right, right, And it goes 505 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: back to being Yeah, it goes back to being that 506 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: the woman is the okay scapegoat for all the stuff 507 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: that's going on. Let's go and poke fun at her, 508 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: Let's go be mean to her. This is it gives them, 509 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: you know, people a dopamine high. Um. And you know, 510 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 1: I mean for everybody listening this podcast. As much as 511 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: we talk about the problems that women you know, have 512 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: with each other, we also talk about the amazing women 513 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: that have supported and and stood with us. And you know, 514 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm lucky today to be with both you know, Caroline 515 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: and Michelle, who have helped me so much over there 516 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: is I mean, Carolyn, how many times to go down 517 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: on the phone with me and I'm like crying and 518 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: You're like, I tell you this great at this great 519 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: advice and I need it and we need to hear 520 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: again and again because it's interesting. I'll have these moments 521 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: where I believe you and I'm like, yes, empowered, and 522 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: then there would be like a moment at night where 523 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: I just I started crying and like, I don't think 524 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: I can handle people being mean anymore, and I don't 525 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: think I can go on, you know, And then you 526 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: wake up in the morning you're like, Okay, I can 527 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: do this again. But it requires our our sorority, are 528 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: our sisterhood, are our our witches are coven to to 529 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 1: keep us all together, to just keep on reminding it 530 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: because it goes back to what we're talking about before. 531 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,239 Speaker 1: How you know, we didn't learn this growing up. We 532 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: learned to be a comedy. We learned to put im 533 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: You know, my parents used to say, put yourself in 534 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: someone else's shoes, great, but I forgot to learn to 535 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: stand in my own shoes. I don't know what they 536 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: feel like. And so that's what as an adult, I'm 537 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: trying to learn to put myself and shooes. But it 538 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: it means that I must listen to my girlfriend to 539 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: help me figure out what's my size. You know, don't look, 540 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: I mean look externally for support. But now, like all, 541 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: you've accomplished more in your life than most humans, and 542 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: you manage I mean, you have seven children, you're an 543 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: amazing mother, You're an amazing supportive, loving wife. You're out 544 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: there you're always saying the right thing, You're always supporting them, 545 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: and you're always fighting back for bullies, I mean from 546 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: from bullies, like give yourself a break. You're too hard 547 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: on yourself. That's what it is. Sorry, And she's an amazing, 548 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: amazing thrend to others. I mean, your energy is boundless. 549 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: But it's funny. We need to keep hearing it. Like 550 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: we know these things, but sometimes, like the way one 551 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: more person says, it is what unlocks, like that trap 552 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: you're in in your mind. And I think the one 553 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: positive thing that kids might have right now is that 554 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: mindfulness and you know, practices and consciousness are so much 555 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: more a part of the conversation than they were when 556 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: we were younger. That like, there are tools out there 557 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: where you can really kind of easily learn to retrain 558 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: your mind, rewire your neural pathways, be more mindful about 559 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: your thoughts so your thoughts are not so debilitating. So 560 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: I think that there is there's so much power in 561 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: transmitting energy through our community and our coven and our friends. 562 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: But I think to having those conversations with our kids 563 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: and just keeping you know, keeping that as a part 564 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: of this conversation always. It's like we just have to 565 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: keep reframing how we think and how we perceive it. 566 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: And most like you know in mythology, the media's shield 567 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: right where the shield absorbed all negative energy and turned 568 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: it into positive energy. That was like unstoppable. And I 569 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: think that's kind of how we have to take on 570 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: some of this this darkness that you deal with so often. 571 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: I also think probably it always feels like criticism, right, 572 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: It feels like telling you some you're someone's told you 573 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: that you made a mistake, which Capricorns literally hate. They 574 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: devote themselves to not making mistakes. This is this, this 575 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: is the Capricorn card, your capricorn, please stop referring to 576 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: me as your subject um. You're doing it wrong, love Capricorn. 577 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: That's why we need to get those for Alec, just 578 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: to hold because he's always can you just tell me 579 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: something I'm doing right? When it's like coming to the kids, 580 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, but you haven't done anything right yet, so 581 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand. We'll tell you you're doing 582 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 1: it right when you do it right, but you're not 583 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: doing it right. And I learned the magic too to 584 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,479 Speaker 1: making man happy, which I hate to share it like this, 585 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: but the magic words for a man. Okay, I hope. 586 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: Whatever I'm sharing is if you say to someone, can 587 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: you do this for me? Because then they have a 588 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: task and they will complete it and they will have 589 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: achieved it and they will have pleased you. If you understand, 590 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: women step a tone in a relationship. Women set the 591 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: tone at business. Women are all powerful. We set the tone. 592 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: You look at a relationship, it is the woman who 593 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: is deciding whether or not the family is happy. It 594 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: is the woman. You can go in a room as 595 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: a woman talking about being a witch or not, Like 596 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: like I could take you all down with a bad 597 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: mood right now. I can absolutely burst every single bubble, 598 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to because I'm setting the tone 599 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: right And you forget that. And I think that we 600 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: think that men are equals, but uh, you have to 601 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: know that. That's why I just stop being reactive to 602 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: anybody because even engaging in like, there's so much trolling, 603 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: there's so much whatever. Just like let them dissipate. Who cares, 604 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: they don't get anymore anymore of your beautiful energy. Zero. 605 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: It's about learning and and but that's like the healing process. 606 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: You know, the healing comes you have a cut and 607 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: then little by little it heals all the way to 608 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: the top, and you know, I feel like I feel 609 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: like I'm getting there. And then through that, I'm capable 610 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: of just really realizing the ridiculous, the ridiculousness. And I 611 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: think another thing that for for many of us, we 612 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: focused on that one mean comment, and there's like all 613 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: like the love and the wonderful and on the support 614 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: and everything, and then there's that one thing. And again, 615 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: as a Capricorn, that one thing that's just like a 616 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: really it's like the peace. It triggered something that we believe. 617 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: That's what the one thing is. It's our achilles or 618 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: it's our fear, you know, that fear of like, oh god, 619 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: well what if they're right? All right, Caroline, I want 620 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: to know what's and want to know what you're covering 621 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: in your coven, in our coven, in our joint coven, 622 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: our big old coven. What are you showing us? Okay? 623 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: There was At first of all, I was once hit 624 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: on by this gorgeous year old in Scotland and I 625 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: was like, was sarahridiculous? It was like ten years ago, 626 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: more in twelve years stuff, and um he was Scottish 627 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: and he was so handsome. He looked like Jesus. It 628 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: was very conflicting, and he said, we love that. Yeah, 629 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: he said, I want to come home with you. And 630 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, are you locked out? And he's like, I've 631 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: been with older women. I know what you want. I 632 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: want to take there and I go, really, you want 633 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: to take me to the clearance isle at Homegood Okay, right, 634 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: that is what women want. Well, I'm good is my favorite. 635 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: It's because I don't know what it is to go 636 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: there for the ugly coffee mugs. It's just so much fun. 637 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:50,959 Speaker 1: So this year during Halloween, okay, wait, there's more which 638 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: we got the same cup that's amazing. I bought that 639 00:34:54,880 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: at Homegoods too, Oh my god, Wicked which oh I 640 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: love it, but all of them. I just got that 641 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: one in potion. Oh well that's which. Please. So, I mean, 642 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: for those of you guys who couldn't see Caroline because 643 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: it's a podcast, not have which powers, she just showed 644 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: us a bunch of mugs that she bought at um 645 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: at Home Goods. What I'm coming the nose breed to? 646 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: What is just you don't know what the nose frieda 647 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: is it's the snot suck is the snot sucker? Don't 648 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: remember that? Yeah, I was always bad with that. So 649 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 1: they've actually, you know, one of the benefits of having 650 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: a hundred children is that each time they come up 651 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: with new things. So this time around, because you need 652 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: to get like the sailine to like spread the sailine 653 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: up their nose and then you take the tube and 654 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: you suck. That's not don't forget the filter. You forget 655 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: the filter. You're really sad person, like it's not right 656 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: in your mouth. But with this one, now they give you, say, 657 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 1: lean inside the little package container. And my my daughter, 658 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: my new daughter, she got sick at like, you know, 659 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: five five weeks. She got like a little cold five 660 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: six weeks, which was like very scary, but she was 661 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: actually really okay. It was just one of those things 662 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: that you know, you're hearing all these babies getting hospitalized 663 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: with rs BE and it made me very scary. So 664 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: I'd be up all night, you know, sucking this not 665 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: out of her nose. But you know what kept out 666 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: of the hospital. All right, Michelle, what are you coming 667 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: in in the coven? What what are you coming in 668 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: your um? I well, because I'm so brightly lit today, 669 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,919 Speaker 1: you can't tell I do a lot of crazy. Which 670 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: skincare today is there's a lot of like because I'm 671 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: peeling like kind of like a lizard. It's like we're 672 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: all coming out and to combat all like redness and 673 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: skin stuff. And this is not like sponsored, this is 674 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: something I'm just obsessed with. This is this like tiger 675 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: grass stick, a repair by Doctor Jart sun block that 676 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: has green in it and you put it on your 677 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: face and it looks like you have makeup on because 678 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: it's got a little bit of yellow in it, and 679 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: it neutralizes all of the red in your skin and 680 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: it just makes everything look so nice, no matter like 681 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: what weird stuff I've done to my skin. It kind 682 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: of covers it up. And um yeah, it makes me 683 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: feel like I can go out into the world not 684 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 1: scare people with all my laser treatments. So all right, 685 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: Aunt Hilda, Aunt Caroline, best friend, thank you so much 686 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: for being on and sharing your wisdom and your fun 687 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: and making us laugh a loot. Thank you. Hilaria the 688 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: world's most beautiful Capricorn bionic woman mother, that's what it is. 689 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well that sums it up. Well, I'm 690 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: happy for you. I hope this is a big success. No, 691 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 1: thank you so much, Thank you so much for being on. 692 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: It was an absolute joy to talk to you. I'm 693 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: still laughing. I can't believe we just had Caroline Ray 694 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: on the show. I'm so glad that you've had a 695 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 1: chance to meet her because she again I can't say 696 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 1: this too many times, she's one of my favorite people 697 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: in the world. And as she said, she's been super 698 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 1: maternal to me. And we started this project about women 699 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: connecting and women lifting up women and she is the 700 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: biggest support war. So I hope all of you guys 701 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: felt that. Alright, Guys, don't forget to review, subscribe, share 702 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: with your friends, spread the word. We're having so much 703 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: fun doing this and I can't wait to talk to 704 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: you guys next week. Bye bye, Thanks guys. H