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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to sixty four,

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Speaker 1: episode three of the dailies like Guys Well One More

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Speaker 1: Day till Turkey Day. It's a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is the podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. It's Wednesday, November twenty three. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's so much going on this week, but it is

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Speaker 1: National Espresso Day, National et Cranberry Day, National Cash You Day,

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Speaker 1: National Jukebox Day, and National Taie one on day. I'm

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Speaker 1: Miles Gray a k A Miles of Gravy. I forget.

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Speaker 1: I think it's Paul Garavent on Twitter who gave me

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Speaker 1: that a k A. Because yeah, it's true. It's it's

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Speaker 1: We're we got we gotta have the Thanksgiving tood themed names.

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Speaker 1: And I am thrilled to be joined by my guest

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Speaker 1: co host again. I don't know how many, how long

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Speaker 1: of an intro I'm gonna do here, but her takes

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Speaker 1: are sound, her movie suggestions unflappable. Okay, is she does?

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Speaker 1: She have one of the kindest spirits and voices you've

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Speaker 1: ever experienced. Yeah? Probably is. She also a fantastic producer, writer,

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Speaker 1: and all these other things. Yes, I can name them all,

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Speaker 1: but I'd rather just call her Joel Monique him Miles

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Speaker 1: than such a delicious intro. So thice to you. Good

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Speaker 1: to see you, Good to see you. Are you excited

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Speaker 1: for her tomorrow? Yeah? I've had Thanksgiving with the same

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Speaker 1: college friends for the past six years. We had spreadsheets

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Speaker 1: and oven schedules. It's a very tenuous and amazing celebration

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Speaker 1: because they, you know, they're the friends that like to

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Speaker 1: experiment and spend too much money on food, so you

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Speaker 1: can go into their house. Yeah, so it's gonna be good.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. Well, look, let's get into our guest. Our

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Speaker 1: guest is a James Beard Award winning author. Okay, this

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Speaker 1: man knows food. He's written literal books on apples. I

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Speaker 1: can't believe Jack is not here. It's called Tasting the

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Speaker 1: Essential Oyster. Okay, Shadows on the Golf, and also his

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Speaker 1: latest podcast, Obsessions While Chocolate. You know on my heart.

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Speaker 1: I'll check it out, please help me. Welcome to the microphone,

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Speaker 1: Mr rowand Jacobs said, what's up? Happy Cranberry Day? I

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Speaker 1: didn't even know. Yes, yes, go to your favorite bog

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Speaker 1: and you know, pull up a fresh one. I actually do.

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Speaker 1: I have a bog right up the road from me

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Speaker 1: with cranberries in it. I'm gonna have to go check

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Speaker 1: them out and see if they're there. Really magical world

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Speaker 1: do you live in You live in Massachusetts or something? Well, Vermont, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have a few. We don't have many in Massachusetts,

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Speaker 1: but you know, if you know where to luck, they're here.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, yeah, and I've I've always been. I'd

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Speaker 1: never knew how cranberries were grown until like an Ocean

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Speaker 1: spray commercial from the late nineties where like a guy

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Speaker 1: was in like the overalls, like in a pit, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, what the fun is going on? And

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Speaker 1: have you ever seen those crazy photos of what it

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Speaker 1: looks like when they get harvested, like from above? You know,

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Speaker 1: they float water to like the cranberds up and you

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Speaker 1: know they're bright red. So then from above it's just

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Speaker 1: like these huge chunks of color like red and then

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Speaker 1: the blue water and it looks like a surreal painting

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Speaker 1: or something. I'm still don't know how do you grow

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Speaker 1: a cranberry? What's the point? What do you need the

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Speaker 1: bob for? They like it wet, I guess, so you know,

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Speaker 1: they're like these little short plants, you know, and they

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Speaker 1: have like the little red berries, but they're only like

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Speaker 1: a foot high so and they grow in like standing water.

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Speaker 1: Got it, got it, cut it. I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 1: like not a cranberry expert, admit, but I think to

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Speaker 1: harvest him, you go in and you just like beat

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Speaker 1: the bushes to knock all the berries off into the water.

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Speaker 1: And then then yeah, basically the water you corral them

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Speaker 1: into like big circles of red that are floating on

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Speaker 1: the water. And then farming is such a wild thing

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Speaker 1: because I always picture, like in movies, it's like and

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Speaker 1: then we gently like plucked this corn from the stock

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Speaker 1: and like shucked it like gentle farmwork hands, and there's

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Speaker 1: like golden light everywhere. But then, like if you've ever

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Speaker 1: seen an olive tree harvest, they just throw nets everywhere

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Speaker 1: and starts smacking the trees. They're like get out of

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Speaker 1: their olives. It's it's I feel like I can have fun,

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Speaker 1: far more fun than movies have made it seem. Right. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of smacking involved with farming. It turns out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to stop grapes, you know, yeah exactly, I know,

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Speaker 1: we'll have to ask you about them later. It's fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I highly recommend it. Well, let's give people a quick

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Speaker 1: preview of what we're gonna be talking about today. Just

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Speaker 1: checking in over there with some presidential candidate activity, specifically

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Speaker 1: Mike Pompeo, former Secretary of State, who has identified the

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Speaker 1: biggest threat to the United States and I don't quite

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Speaker 1: It's a fucking dumb It's a it's a quote unquote

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Speaker 1: documentary about the COVID vaccine, but it's it's so poorly

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Speaker 1: made and like researched it. I don't even know why

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Speaker 1: it's up there, Oh, because there's no moderation on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that and the just all kinds

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Speaker 1: of interesting things that are discussed there. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: macho camps for sad rich guys, to the Modern Day

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Speaker 1: Night Project. I don't know if you saw this, but

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Speaker 1: this is like a thing where guys can get screamed

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Speaker 1: at by more buff dudes and then feel like men

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Speaker 1: after have they not heard of the Navy seals? Well,

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Speaker 1: well you have, Well, dude, my fucking guy, dude, donkey,

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Speaker 1: he used to be a seal, so he trains us.

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Speaker 1: So it's all good. So we'll take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into like this whole entire industry and it's just like

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Speaker 1: a terrible grift for you know, people with a very

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Speaker 1: fragile sense of self, and talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: food since we have rowing here and I have a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions. It's the real bleak picture of America

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Speaker 1: and then food, so I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: or food then bleak picture of America. Look, either one

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get. We're getting all of our we're eating today.

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Speaker 1: But first Rowan got to ask you, our guests, what

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Speaker 1: is some thing from your search history that is reveal

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Speaker 1: something about who you are, what you're currently searching. I

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Speaker 1: guess you know. I actually look back, I was like,

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Speaker 1: And what quickly was revealed to me is that I

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Speaker 1: have been checking the snow report a whole I live

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Speaker 1: then I started checking ski Report and uh, yeah, with

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Speaker 1: How's Stow looking? And they're they're open for sure, down

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Speaker 1: like the down hell places like stuff. They're they're going.

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Speaker 1: Gets to know that I'm saying the one ski place

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Speaker 1: I know him from. You got in that area, so

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Speaker 1: like I went there once and I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't know about Stove, but wait, so did you grow

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Speaker 1: up in New England? Yeah I did. Wow. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: that's very like the way you just talk about It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: always I love I love hearing people be like, for actual,

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Speaker 1: stand like it's it's definitely cold, it's also cool. I

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Speaker 1: learned that the hard way, also from California. Yes, you're

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Speaker 1: the metal will freeze. Oh wow, yeah dude, we're just

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Speaker 1: What is something you think is overrated? All right? So

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Speaker 1: here's my six thousand dollar rose exactly. Yeah, like Rose

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Speaker 1: a recent interview, and I'm just gonna let you know

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Speaker 1: who that is, he said. I get asked, who's the

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Speaker 1: most dangerous person in the world. Is it Kirman Chim

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Speaker 1: or is it Chairman Cairman? Him? Switch those up? Is

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Speaker 1: it chairman Kim? Is it ping? The most dangerous person

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Speaker 1: in the world is Randy Wine Garden now Randy White

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Speaker 1: Garden is She is the head of the Teachers Union.

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Speaker 1: He identified her as the most dangerous person. He said,

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Speaker 1: it's not a close call. If yes, who's the most

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Speaker 1: likely to take this Republic down? It would be the

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Speaker 1: teachers unions and the filth that they're teaching our kids

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Speaker 1: and the fact that they don't know math and reading

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Speaker 1: or writing. Oh interesting, sir, he said, these are things

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Speaker 1: that candidates should speak about, speak to in a way

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Speaker 1: that says, here's the problem, here's a proposal for how

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Speaker 1: to solve it, and if given the opportunity, these are

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Speaker 1: the things I will go work on and try and

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Speaker 1: deliver that outcome that fixes that problem. I think it

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Speaker 1: is interesting in this instance, see like the Republicans realize that, like,

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Speaker 1: actually connecting outcomes to policy ideas is the thing that

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Speaker 1: people people seeking office should do, although sadly these policies

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Speaker 1: and ideas are are a little off. Like the biggest

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Speaker 1: thing that he's saying is that, like, if they're teaching

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Speaker 1: like stuff like the sixteen nineteen project and that this

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Speaker 1: country was founded on a racist idea quote. If those

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Speaker 1: are the things people are entered the seventh grade deeply

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Speaker 1: embedded in their understanding of America, it's difficult to understand

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Speaker 1: how J. Jympings claimed that America is in decline won't

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Speaker 1: prove true. Oh so many thoughts so many that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a big that's a big swing. And I think

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Speaker 1: again they're trying to find a way. I think for

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Speaker 1: like Republicans running in the primary for office, they're trying

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Speaker 1: to find a thing that's like, well, overt racism didn't

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Speaker 1: do well, or like misogyny and the denial of like

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Speaker 1: body autonomy. What if we like kind of end around

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Speaker 1: by like shaking the education tree and kind of using

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Speaker 1: that as like the venue to begin to say like

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Speaker 1: these like liberals are going to groom your kids in

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Speaker 1: schools and also learn about stuff. So first, it's super

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Speaker 1: funny to hear people be like, yes, slavery was here,

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Speaker 1: but was it racist? Question mark right? Not an ideal?

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Speaker 1: We were found out? Is literally what the hell happened?

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Speaker 1: It's just very bizarre. But then two coming after teachers,

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Speaker 1: it feels like the most witch hunting thing the Republicans

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Speaker 1: have done in a hot minute. It's like there they'll

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Speaker 1: poison your children. Be terrified, Like, I don't their teachers,

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Speaker 1: they're just like have you met one? They literally just

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Speaker 1: want to help your kid be educated, get through their day.

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Speaker 1: Most of them are spending huge chunks of their paycheck

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Speaker 1: on stalking their class with like supplies and stuff like

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Speaker 1: they you couldn't go after like want. I know, it's

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Speaker 1: better to go after people without means because you know,

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Speaker 1: if you have your legal day in court, you can

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Speaker 1: just outpay them and outpace them in a court trial.

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Speaker 1: But I also just think like for the most part,

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Speaker 1: teachers have community on their side because I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 1: local police, they're active members of their community. So this

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Speaker 1: is a very foolish like angle to try to take.

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Speaker 1: I don't I know, like anti elitism is like as

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Speaker 1: far as like you know how your education is very popular,

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Speaker 1: but not the sixth grade teachers. I feel like they're

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Speaker 1: missing They're they're going to miss their audience on this.

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Speaker 1: I think they've found a lot of success. They're like

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Speaker 1: you've seen these school board meetings, Like a lot of

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Speaker 1: people are finding that that is a place where they

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Speaker 1: can try and you know, act out this kind of

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Speaker 1: change quote that they're looking for. But yeah, it is,

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Speaker 1: I think it is. It does seem like a very

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Speaker 1: I mean again, you're talking about people who are dedicating

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Speaker 1: their lives to educating your kids, and I think this

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Speaker 1: kind of I think this is also going part and

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Speaker 1: parcel with the general like theme of panic around the

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Speaker 1: youth vote in the mid terms also, and I think

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Speaker 1: they're starting to be like, oh, these younger kids are

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Speaker 1: like what, what the heck are they learning that? They're like,

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Speaker 1: they're they're voting for a body autonomy and access to healthcare. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Those damn kids. I love the toughest of them. They're

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Speaker 1: out here doing it. Yeah, we'll see what happens. I

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Speaker 1: just I don't think that they're going to be able

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Speaker 1: to sustain this type of attack because even the school

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Speaker 1: boards were mostly about like the library and books they

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Speaker 1: have access to, and not individual teachers. You might have,

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Speaker 1: like on a local level, like small gripes with the

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Speaker 1: specific teacher, maybe someone's too outspoken or whatever. We've certainly

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Speaker 1: seen that happen around the country where like oh the

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Speaker 1: teacher is out and people don't like that, or you know,

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Speaker 1: they put up gay pride stuff in the lobby. Horrifying.

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Speaker 1: They suggested the students read Beloved by Tony Morrison, like huh,

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Speaker 1: it will scar your children, but it's a scarring they need, okay, appropriate,

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Speaker 1: What's what's kind of the tone and in Vermont Rowan

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Speaker 1: like as it like relates to like schooling and and

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Speaker 1: things like that, because I know, I mean, I feel

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Speaker 1: like like every state is experiencing some form of like

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Speaker 1: chaos around education. Yeah, for sure, it's you know, it's

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Speaker 1: quieter here because just because the towns are so small, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, typical town would be like a thousand of people,

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Speaker 1: so you might only have like eight kids in the school,

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Speaker 1: So like everyone kind of knows each other and right

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Speaker 1: that that it seems like that often that kind of

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Speaker 1: like takes the edge off. Like you know, Twitter, you

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Speaker 1: get people get into huge fights because they can't see

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Speaker 1: each other, they don't know each other, and they're pretty

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Speaker 1: sure they're never going to run into each other, Like

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Speaker 1: in Vermont, you're pretty sure you're gonna run into everybody

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Speaker 1: and right, so so it kind of keeps it a

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Speaker 1: little more civil, h Yeah, or yeah, or you never

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Speaker 1: know when you might pick up the party line and

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Speaker 1: here they might be on the other end of the party. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: There's there's a lot keeping these things together. But yeah, again,

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Speaker 1: it's just a lot of a lot of noise coming

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Speaker 1: out I think as a party tries to figure out,

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Speaker 1: like just combing through the ashes of their midterm platform,

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Speaker 1: like okay, so none of that was that great. They

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Speaker 1: don't like election denihiism and some of these other things. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: hitting hitting on the teachers, it's not gonna work much

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Speaker 1: better for them. I feel like somehow, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's really it's kind of alarming because even

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Speaker 1: like in the you know, in the light of the

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Speaker 1: that you know, hate attack in Colorado over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: you're still seeing conservatives like just continue to double down

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Speaker 1: on this like rhetoric of like, and there are these

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Speaker 1: people who are trying to harm your kids, and that

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Speaker 1: you know half the time that they're they're they're wanting

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Speaker 1: to sort of guide that road into and it's the

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Speaker 1: teachers and not the countless people like clergy that we

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Speaker 1: read about every week and some like new investigation, but

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Speaker 1: maybe that it's only happened in school. I think they'll

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Speaker 1: keep doubling down on it until it hurts them in

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Speaker 1: the primaries. And that's what I'm gonna be curious to

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Speaker 1: see if yeah, because that's when people like yeah started shifting.

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Speaker 1: When he's like, Okay, so those people got it, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll take a little bit of that idea, but I

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Speaker 1: won't have to do it later but I will say

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Speaker 1: I will collect the right opinions, Thank you so much. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well we shall see. Speaking of just terrible ideas, you know,

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Speaker 1: Twitter has been you're up, You're down, You're up, you're

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Speaker 1: down looking at this thing. Uh. The last thing we

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Speaker 1: heard is like Ellen was saying the verified thing where

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I gotta, I gotta figure this out. It's like,

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Speaker 1: turns out too many people want to impersonate brands and

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Speaker 1: give out free insulin or talk about you know, military

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Speaker 1: government overthrows by fruit companies. But I think there's this

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Speaker 1: the other thing about like around moderation is a huge

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Speaker 1: issue that isn't really talked about as much. I think

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Speaker 1: as everyone is either just like dunking on elon reply

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Speaker 1: guys or just kind of doing their like it's been

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Speaker 1: a pleasure performing with you this night on the deck

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Speaker 1: of that Titanic type pa. But the phrase died suddenly

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Speaker 1: has been trending on Twitter, and I was like, what

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Speaker 1: the funk is this. It's so it's a documentary that's

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Speaker 1: dreaming on Twitter, first of all, and it purports to

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Speaker 1: quote present the truth about the greatest ongoing mass genocide

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Speaker 1: in human history COVID vaccines. Oh that's what it's. It's

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Speaker 1: mass genocide. Okay, and it's it's called died suddenly, and

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Speaker 1: you're like, oh wow, like what is going on? And

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Speaker 1: this shouldn't surprise anyone. The film never actually proves that

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Speaker 1: anyone died suddenly because of the vaccine. It just instead

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Speaker 1: makes like the most outlandish, spurious, mendacious even connections between

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Speaker 1: like the like introduction of the vaccine and just other

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Speaker 1: events that happened completely unrelated. Like there's not there's no context,

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Speaker 1: there's no scientific there's not one like a bit of

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Speaker 1: scientific evidence. It's really like the vaccines came out and

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Speaker 1: this guy fell down. What do you think about that?

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Speaker 1: Like so there were just like pictures of blood clots,

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Speaker 1: like and then they're just like okay, so what is

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Speaker 1: no one really saying that. They're just being like yeah,

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Speaker 1: blood cloth like just saying like buzzwords. And again, the

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Speaker 1: whole quote unquote documentary features a lot of footage of

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Speaker 1: people who they again the title says, died suddenly, except

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Speaker 1: for the fact that like these people that are in there,

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Speaker 1: not only they say they did. It's not that they

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Speaker 1: collapsed as a result of getting the vaccine. These people

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Speaker 1: didn't even die, Like it's just this like really really

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Speaker 1: opportunistic grip. So okay, there's a whole Twitter thread that's

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Speaker 1: going through this documentary looking at the quote unquote deaths

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Speaker 1: in this like like in this trailer, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of them can be debunked because they were like newsy moments.

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Speaker 1: Like there was a woman who stumbled like on a

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Speaker 1: train platform because she hadn't eaten all day, but like

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Speaker 1: in a in a in the like sort of in

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Speaker 1: a vacuum. The footage is like this woman stumbled off

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Speaker 1: a train platform, but admittedly she was like my bloodsuckers

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Speaker 1: lodge didn't eat and that's what happened. Were they saying

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Speaker 1: that she stumbled off the platform because she got the vaccine,

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Speaker 1: that's the implication. Yes. Then they even showed like because

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Speaker 1: the whole thing is like died. So and then they

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Speaker 1: showed like like one of these like royal guards of

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Speaker 1: Buckingham Palace who like fainted, because that happens a lot too,

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Speaker 1: you like, it's not a thing you haven't seen with

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Speaker 1: like those like guards who just stands knees you've passed out, yea.

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Speaker 1: Then they showed this basketball player from Florida, Kyante Johnson,

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Speaker 1: who like he he this was headlines he collapsed in

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Speaker 1: a game in December of and which was before he

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Speaker 1: could have been vaccinated. Like unless he like pulled up

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Speaker 1: with a fake ideas like I'm high risk and a

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Speaker 1: senior citizen, can I get a vaccine? They're like, that's that,

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Speaker 1: that's not what has happened. And he even said he

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Speaker 1: just like had nothing, like I just I just passed

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Speaker 1: out and like it was very scary for me. That's

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Speaker 1: what happened, nothing to do with the vaccine. So it's again,

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Speaker 1: this has been so clearly like not a obviously just

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Speaker 1: a bad eight like you know, shot at when the

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00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: pun is intended at like COVID misinformation, you know. And

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Speaker 1: if you're asking yourself, is this Elon Musk's fault, well yes,

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Speaker 1: of course, Like first of all, the the account is verified,

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Speaker 1: so a lot of people like have just been watching

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Speaker 1: and who are not very savvy, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: it's just like the overall reception of it has been

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Speaker 1: some people kind of retweeting it, but mostly people being like,

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Speaker 1: what how are you going to let this be on

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Speaker 1: the platform right now? Like this is so this isn't

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Speaker 1: even good and again these people are like grifting because

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Speaker 1: they're just asking people for money at the end. Oh

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Speaker 1: really what wait, but are they promising anything? And they're like, hey,

632
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: help us for their investigations. I think, just to you know,

633
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: just to get just to get more, just to get

634
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: the facts out. You know. It's the same thing all

635
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: these grifters do. It's like you you present this like

636
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: just gigantic, unfathomable battle that has to be done, and

637
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: you're like, and I know how to fight it, and

638
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: just give me some money to do it, so you

639
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: don't know, I'll take care of it for you. Money

640
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: will solve all your problems. Wow, this is feels to

641
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: me as like a very long time adamant Twitter user,

642
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: like the first step in a pivot towards four Chan,

643
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: which I think is the direction that's going. I mean,

644
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: a lot of Elon's fanboys live there on Reddit. I

645
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: think they're gonna have some of them will migrate to Twitter.

646
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: We're already seeing a giant exodus of people from the platform,

647
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: and I think everyone who stayed has sort of that

648
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: will eventually leave state as an opportunity to be like hey,

649
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: they want to see like the burning, like what happens

650
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: in the final days of Twitter. But to you know,

651
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of questions like where do we go?

652
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: I think I found the solution. I think it's high.

653
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: It's high, it's where it's at. Man, it's a perfect

654
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: combination of Instagram and Twitter and then like a dash

655
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: of my Space. If they add a top eight, it's

656
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: really over for everybody. It's so much fun and it's

657
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: very like chill. I'm sure. I'm almost hesitant to like

658
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: spread the word because this feels like the right amount

659
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: of everyone. A lot of people on Twitter have I've

660
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: been seeing everybody been like, hey, man, I think the

661
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: party is over all hive, and then well, I think

662
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: this is also where we're at. Two is like this

663
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: truly is like when a party get a house party

664
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: gets broken up by the cops and you know where

665
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: we're going next, and you're trying to figure out and

666
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: like there's three different options and you're like, well, the

667
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: other person just said Mastadon, I thought it was post social.

668
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: They're like, no, it's hive. Macedon is definitely not. That's

669
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: too complicated. I can't figure it out right. But just

670
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: to go get back to this documentary, I just want

671
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: to say, the guy behind this movie is Stu Peter

672
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: and this doctor oh wait, no, he's not a doctor.

673
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 1: Make that former bounty hunter turned podcaster who was kicked

674
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: off of Spotify for claiming that COVID vaccines were a

675
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: military bioweapon full of metallic parasites who just wanted to

676
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: get that last in there. And you've seen any good

677
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: documentaries recently. I know I'm going to watch this one

678
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: now here. I don't know if this one's the trailer.

679
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: I mean it is wild to see, Like do you

680
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: see this kind of stuff in like like in the

681
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: food world or just like in your line of work,

682
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: where it's sometimes someone just like thinks they know like

683
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: how your field works, and they're like, I'm gonna make

684
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: this wild claim and maybe it'll get some attention, and

685
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: I'll pray that no one is actually like knows what

686
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: they're talking or knows what I'm trying to talk about

687
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: and then be found out. Oh yeah, I mean I

688
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: think they have everywhere in the food world for sure,

689
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: Like almost every every diet based claim turns out to

690
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: be like not so good, right right right, It's like

691
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm on the cash. You and Tiger's Milk diet and

692
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna love it. Shout out Tiger's Milk. Those protein bars.

693
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: I really like those, um anyway, So don't check out that.

694
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: Uh And no one suddenly died. If anything, you're better

695
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: off watching Suddenly Susan. Okay, Uh, Let's take a quick

696
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: Barry ache and we'll be right back to talk more

697
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: right after this, and we're back. Last week, there was this,

698
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: like a few write ups I saw about something called

699
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: the Modern Day Night k N I g h T Project,

700
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, what is going on? We asked

701
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: j Mr Writer to to do a little digging on

702
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: this phenomenon, and it turns out it's it's a real thing.

703
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: And if you loved Summer Camp but you a wished

704
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: it had more guns and enduring tests and be you're

705
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: currently a sad adult man, we've got great news. You

706
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,959
Speaker 1: can sign up for this project or this weird camp.

707
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: And while you think a Modern Day Night would presumably

708
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: just spend their time chilling out with Michael Caine and

709
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: Andrew Lloyd Waite Webber in a castle somewhere, these guys

710
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: are basically just in a boot camp, like a twelve

711
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: thousand dollar boot camp and the website if you go

712
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: to the website, what they're saying it's designed for men

713
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: who are quote living in unfulfilled life of passivity and

714
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: frustration or what they call but clearly are like unable

715
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: to trademark quote the walking dead. Uh. He said, in

716
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: simple terms, most men surrender to circumstances and accept mediocrity.

717
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: So they're trying to get you in your like masculine

718
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: grind mindset. And the introduction also includes passages about what

719
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: it means to be a man, like in bold letters

720
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: is what does it mean to be a man? And

721
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: apparently it means being one type of primate rather than

722
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: a different kind. Uh. They said, they don't need to

723
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: look any further than nature, because nature never lies. The

724
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: picture of the left depicts a chimpanzee and a bonobo

725
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: ape on their right, and the chimpanzee is like showing

726
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: its fangs and like snarling and teeth gnashing. The bonobo

727
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: is like just like, hey, I'm just chilling. And it says,

728
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: when you understand the difference between these two creatures, you'll

729
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: know why some men can walk into a room and

730
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: instantly command presence in respect the way of the Chimp

731
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: is based on strength, courage, honor, and brotherhood. The way

732
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: of the Bonobo is based on weakness, pleasure, full time,

733
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: relaxation and fun. I'm sorry to have fun y'all want,

734
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: But nobles have a ton of sex too. That's like,

735
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: what do you do? What are they tapping to a

736
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: very specific type of man that the internet type of

737
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: man who doesn't want a lot of sex? Apparently, well,

738
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: I think makes sex. I mean maybe yes, but also

739
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: the guys who feel that they are like what's the

740
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: term they use involuntarily celibrate? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

741
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: And I think and especially because some of those guys

742
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: seem very hard up to be, like to have their

743
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: manhood defined and outlined for them in a way that

744
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: is then not questionable, and doing something like this where

745
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: like no, I was with guides and Wilderness, so they

746
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: can never tell me I wasn't masculine or that I

747
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: didn't have the answers. I took leadership courses. I's also

748
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: got like a lot of I used to work for UM.

749
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 1: All the names are escaping me today, guys. I'm so sorry.

750
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: They're like life coaches, but their brand is not based

751
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: on anything of event tearing you down in subtle ways,

752
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: like the writing of Yeah, well, like the writing is

753
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: will be like this, doesn't it suck that no one

754
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: loves you? And don't you wish your body was a

755
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: little bit better so you can be more confident when

756
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: you talk to people. And you don't have those skills,

757
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: but I definitely do, so you know, make sure like

758
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: they just constantly are like reminding people of any possible

759
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: insecurity so that by the time you're finished reading their letter,

760
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: you feel like you need help. And that's definitely like

761
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: reading on the website. Here's okay, if you've made it

762
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: this far down this page, then I can already tell

763
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: that you're not like most men who know they're meant

764
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: for more, but allow fear and poor discipline to stifle

765
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: personal development, income and impact. That's key freezing to just

766
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: like trigger a person with low self esteem into purchasing

767
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: whatever the packages. And it's really horrifying that copy can

768
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: do that. It's very successful. Yeah, the power of copy

769
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: and also the power of the chimp too. Let's not

770
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: forget courage and honor are foundational to the chimpanzee, not

771
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: randomly biting off the face of your like human owner, Like,

772
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: that's when I see chimpanzee's in the fucking news. It

773
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: doesn't sound very honorable or brotherhood. But again, they're wild

774
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: animals and that's why shouldn't keep them as pets. The

775
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: pictures are so upsetting, like it's a bunch of men

776
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: in the water and white t shirts. They're kind of dirty.

777
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: They all look very tired and hungry. Yeah, it's like

778
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: a cross between a baptism and like a child boy

779
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: fire exactly, baptism by fire. You got it right there, Joel.

780
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: The founder of this is some guy named bed ros

781
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: Culian and uh, he wrote the he's got a YouTube

782
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: channel and he's got a book called Man Up, and uh,

783
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: you know his YouTube channel, he's got stuff like this

784
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: guy's tadded. He's like just ripped, like bearded gen extra dude.

785
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: It's like the just the card says cancel culture. Okay, yeah,

786
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some really interesting takes on there. And

787
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: he like, you know that this whole thing conclusively proves

788
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: by toxic masculinity isn't a thing using graphics borrowed from

789
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: a mid nineties karaoke video, Because there are these like

790
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: videos that like in impact font look I love it.

791
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 1: I loved Impact font too when I first discovered fonts

792
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: as a child. But this the style guide is terrible here,

793
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 1: and there's like there's just like these in these videos

794
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: and stuff. Is no such thing as toxic masculinity like

795
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: played over very just you know, mundane b roll type

796
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: of stuff. But again, according to this guy, his goal

797
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: is to present men with a crossroads and it's either

798
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: stay a bitch or become a beast in his words,

799
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: which is also incidentally the same crossroads presented to the

800
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: Prince in Beauty and the Beast. But one of the

801
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: project's head instructor, Steve Eckert, he's like saying, you're not

802
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: allowed to be a man anymore. You're almost a racist

803
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: if you're a man these days. It's crazy, Oh, you're confused.

804
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: You haven't been understanding the message. That's such a weird

805
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: thing to say, Like you couldn't write better comedy than that.

806
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: Where someone's like, you're almost a racist if you're a

807
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: man these days. What do you? What do you? What

808
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: do you want? In their whiteness based off of all

809
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: of the if you go to the video section, they

810
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: have testimonials, Yeah, and then it's looking very white in there.

811
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing anybody else Joel Again, you know, I

812
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: don't want to be regressive here, but this isn't for you, Okay, clearly, bros.

813
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: It's for bros with twelve thousand dollars to pay, not

814
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: include eating, flights or accommodation so they can get accommodations. No,

815
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: that's just to be yelled at and play with guns

816
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: and get told you're a puss, say by some fucking

817
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: ripped guy, and then I think you come out the

818
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: other side better pay Dominatrix. It's some money better spent,

819
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: and they're probably not gonna full you twelve For twelve grand,

820
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: you can build a pretty good dungeon. Explicitly like this,

821
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: this whole thing, like there's a lot of militarized stuff

822
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: because you know what, deep rooted psychological problem hasn't been

823
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: solved by a handgun. I think it's a very very

824
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: good combination that they have going there. And like the

825
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: beginning of this quote unquote project starts with people being

826
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: thrown into a car with bags over their heads, like

827
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: the recruiting scene in Old School. We're getting their fraternity together,

828
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: just snatching people off the street, and then they have

829
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: to do a lot of physical challenges, and there was

830
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: like apparently someone this is and confirmed, but like someone

831
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: in like a Reddit post was talking about like a

832
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: guy who did it and said that they were they

833
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: were buried alive in body bags. For a little bit

834
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 1: too with what's been happening, because like, Okay, so now

835
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: it's so interesting. Okay, so it's like not just that

836
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: like motivational speaker kind of life, but it's also a

837
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 1: little bit of like Christian church camp if you've ever

838
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: had to go through that. It's also a little bit

839
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: I forget what they're called, but basically it's traumatized like

840
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: an entire generation of teenagers whose parents would like pay

841
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: to have them kidnapped and troubled teen camps, and yes,

842
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: that was actually has to be like weird worker camps

843
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: where kids were being like sexually assaulted but also worked

844
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: to the point of exhaustion sometimes death, where girls were

845
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: forced to like take their pregnancy to term and forced

846
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: into like long term isolation spaces, like horrible spaces. But again,

847
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: I think it feeds into this idea for a certain

848
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: kind of guy who thinks, like the only way to

849
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: prove that I am a man is by going through

850
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: the most amount of hardship as possible. And because I

851
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: wasn't fortunate enough quotes to go through any misfortune previously,

852
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: I have to manufacture it later in life to prove

853
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: a point. It's very weird. What's to wake up my

854
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: weakness inside of me? Well, that's why I'm going, and

855
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: that's why Jack is there today. I didn't want to

856
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: reveal that on the show. That's why Jack's out. He's

857
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: still Someone extracts Jack immediately. He's not built for Ever

858
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: since someone said he didn't know how to pose with

859
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: his hands in a photograph, he's really been grappling with

860
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: that and he's like, what if I had guns in

861
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: my hands and would so? Uh, you know, thoughts in

862
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: prayers to him, But he'll come back with a great

863
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: assessment of that. So yeah, just you know, just everybody

864
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: out there, you don't need to pay twelve thousand dollars

865
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: to to find out your you got a lot of

866
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: Just therapy is cheaper twelve thousand dollars. With the therapy ship,

867
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna be good at really tell you will be

868
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: able to look somebody in the eye during a conversation

869
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: and it won't be because someone hits you with a

870
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: two by four on your back while push up God

871
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: buried alive brow. When is there any part of this

872
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: experience that appeals to you in any way, shape or form. Yeah,

873
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: that sounds very vermont Man to me. Well, I'm hoping

874
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: there's other options besides bitch or beast, Like something is

875
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: there like a middle. But I'm also thinking about this,

876
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,479
Speaker 1: Like I just saw this video on Twitter, of course,

877
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: of these dudes jousting each other on like you know,

878
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: they had like real lances, but on bicycles, and you know,

879
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: the lances had like a you know, almost like a

880
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: boxing glove thing on the end, so they wouldn't actually

881
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: like kill each other, but like charging each other on

882
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: bicycle and jousting. And I'm wondering if this is part

883
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 1: of being a modern night or if this is totally separate.

884
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: It sounds like it would go right into the curriculum,

885
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: no problem. Yeah, If anything, those guys jousting at least there,

886
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: I feel like that's like hardcore LARPing, you know, like

887
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: at least you're like you're doing the fucking thing and

888
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: you a nerf sword. It would be very bendy. Nobody's

889
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: getting hurt at a proper LARPing session. My dad, like

890
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: in the nineties in New York, his friend used to

891
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: do these like weird like fight club things in New

892
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: York where people would make their own armor with like

893
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: parking cones and ship and they just fucking get down

894
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: in parks like Washington Square Park. Yeah, and like a

895
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: man is more foreign to me. I don't understand this all. Yeah,

896
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's just this like weird, bizarre

897
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 1: trying to capture what they believe is quote unquote like masculinity.

898
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: And I think for a lot of like men, they

899
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: like maybe like hold their grandfathers in high regard to

900
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: and are like, yeah, that guy who was in a

901
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: war who didn't cry, but also like gave my dad

902
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 1: a lot of weird issues because the way he raised him,

903
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: that had an entire family across state lines and never

904
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: communicated with his children. Great examples. Yeah, he was not

905
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: in the field working every day, he was exhausted. He

906
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: broke his body and there was no one able to

907
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: fix it. Like, you don't want to be that guy.

908
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to be no bussy. I want to

909
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: be a beast with his creepy Candelabra and teapot that

910
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: talked to me, or that's Beauty and the Beast I forget. Anyway, Rown,

911
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you. I want to talk a little

912
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: bit about food because that is your like area of

913
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: expertise and your new podcast about chocolate, because you know,

914
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: right now we have Thanksgiving upon us. I have many questions, like,

915
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: first off, is there a perfect Thanksgiving food? Before we

916
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: get into the podcast, just want to kick that off

917
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: from there. Is there a perfect Thanksgiving food? In your opinion?

918
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna throw throw the sort

919
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: of one actually from left field. I actually think the

920
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: the thing that should start off everything's giving meal is oysters.

921
00:48:55,120 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: Oh go on, are you guys? Os? Yeah? Okay some

922
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 1: people sugar oysters are a deal breaker of some people,

923
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: but you're on? Yeah, do you like? I'm I like

924
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: the little slime. I love the brine too. When it's Brian,

925
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: it's my favorite. Exactly exactly. Actually, a box oysters just

926
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: arrived in my house like an hour ago for Thanksgiving.

927
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: That Thanksgivings when they're at their best. Oh really yeah yeah.

928
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: Then people don't realize this, but oysters have a whole

929
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: like seasonal thing because their lifestyle. So when the water

930
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: gets cold, they start to get they kind of go

931
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: into hibernation winter, just like little tiny bears. So and

932
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: just like little tiny bears, they plump themselves up to

933
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 1: survive that hibernation period. So when the things get cold

934
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: in the fall, they start eating like crazy and and

935
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: fattening themselves up. So around like Thanksgiving through New Year's

936
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: they are at their like peak of deliciousness. I had

937
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: no idea, Yeah, I had nold Wait, so why start

938
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: off with oysters? I mean, like I don't I'm not like,

939
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: is there some experiential science to that or why why

940
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: do you why do you say that is the perfect opener? Well,

941
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: they don't really fill you up in any way, you know,

942
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: like there's they're kind of like living salt water in

943
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: a sense. So it's just like you got a quick

944
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: hit of of salty oceany deliciousness and then they're gone.

945
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: And so you're not like you're not ruining the courses

946
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: to come right Oh man, now, I'm of course you

947
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: don't drink anything with your mute, so they're really salty,

948
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: So I don't know, you kind of have to have

949
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean I'll have something after but I'm never gonna

950
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, first drink the liquor out of the

951
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: loud of the shell, then have then eat the oyster. Meya,

952
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: I'll have something after all. You gotta have the liquid. Yeah,

953
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: and would you what about us their perfect Thanksgiving food? Yes,

954
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: I'm stealing my answer from Sumine no strat. Okay, so

955
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: that cranberries because they're the only on the table and

956
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: they cut through everything. As absolutely said, like, if you

957
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: don't have cranberry sauce, it's not Thanksgiving to me. And

958
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a jelly can girl. Yeah, I like

959
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: it real basic. My dad likes it because you can

960
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: slice along the ridges, so it's like perfect portions of it.

961
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: I love cranberry sauce. I was just saying yesterday I

962
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: can't do cranberry sauce. I just why why? I just

963
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: don't there. I have a My palette is not oh

964
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: it's not a tuned for that burst of cranberry on

965
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: my Thanksgiving plate. I just I know why it's there.

966
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: But I just prefer I don't indulge. I like to

967
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: keep it pretty straightforward. Have you have you tried all

968
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 1: the version there's so many versions. Try the time about

969
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: composed we're talking about Yeah, I've tried. Look, I always try.

970
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: It's like candy corn. I'm like, yeah, this year is

971
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: the year. And then no, I don't want this keep

972
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 1: you talking about cranberries and candy corn in the same sentence.

973
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: This is blasphemy. I'm just saying, it's like a thing

974
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: that I always feel like this will be the year

975
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: that I open up to. And then I realized I

976
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: just need to accept that it might not be from Okay,

977
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: you know that's it, that's your truth. It's wrong, but

978
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: I understand it. Okay, what about favorite dessert for Thanksgiving?

979
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: Go joel? Okay, probably chocolate peacampie? Is I feel for me?

980
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: I don't like a pumpkin pie. I need my gourds

981
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: cooked in breads or roasted like fire roasted where they're

982
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: like almost caramelized. But a chocolate peacampie, especially if you

983
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: can get one from like a South Carolina Georgia Texas area,

984
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: forget sensational. Actually Connecticut has really good one too. I'm

985
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: glad you brought up I'm glad you brought up chocolate

986
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: because Roman obsessions wild chocolate is your podcast and there's

987
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: chocolate is something I love to eat and every time

988
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: I see it like harvested, I'm like, that's fucking chocolate.

989
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: How that? How that turned a chocolate? Can you tell

990
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: us a little bit about like your your podcasting, like

991
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: you know, just it give us us a little bit

992
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: of an education, like you did on red wine and oysters.

993
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: So you're right, like yeah, Like so chocolate is made

994
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: from the seeds of this tree that grows in in

995
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: the tropics called a cacouchary, and you open up these

996
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 1: pods and it's just it looks like this white, slimy,

997
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: maggoty pulp and you're like, that's definitely not chocolate. So

998
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: it has to go through this whole process where they

999
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: they scoop out the pulp and seeds and fermented. It

1000
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: has to be fermented, Yeah, it's it has to be

1001
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: fermented or it never tastes like chocolate. So and that's part.

1002
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: That's part that sometimes gets skipped in like crappy chocolate.

1003
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: But anyway, so they do that and then you dry

1004
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: it and then you have to roast it and then

1005
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: it starts to look almost like almonds, like these brown beans,

1006
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: and then those ground and mixed with sugar to make chocolate. Man. Okay,

1007
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: so I had no idea how to be fermented note

1008
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: to sell, Yeah, so I'll never be able to. And

1009
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: it smells almost like like chocolate wine when it's fermenting,

1010
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: Like you walk through an area where it's all being

1011
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: heaped up and fermented, and it's like it feels alcoholic almost. Okay,

1012
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: I like that, Like what you know, what is it

1013
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: about chocolate that makes it? It's like one of these

1014
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,959
Speaker 1: like coveted things throughout history, you know, and and even

1015
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: now like we like it's it's one of Joel's favorite deserves,

1016
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: like certainly my favorite kind of ice cream. And if

1017
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: anything has cholcoln like yes, that like oysters. I guess

1018
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: people say it's an aphrodisiac, but I don't know if

1019
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: that's what the science is behind that. But what what

1020
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: is it? Like, you know, like why is it? Why

1021
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: does it? Like why is it so? What is it?

1022
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: Why is it so powerful in your estimation? Like in

1023
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: looking at how so many people like fight over it

1024
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: and it's like this just gigantic industry. And that's one

1025
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 1: thing that we keep trying to explore in the podcast

1026
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: is what why why do people go crazy for the stuff?

1027
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: Why do they go to such great length for it?

1028
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: And part of it is it's actually a pretty good

1029
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: recreational substance. It's got a bunch of different psychoactive compounds

1030
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 1: in it, so they're not like they're not gonna hit

1031
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: you over the head like like ayahuasca or anything. But

1032
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: it's got a lot of compounds in it and make

1033
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: it feel good, you know, like that get the dopamine going.

1034
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: So and that's why, you know, the Maya and the Aztec,

1035
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: it was chocolate was like the heart of their rituals,

1036
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: like all their ceremonies they would be They always did

1037
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: it as a drink, like basically like a hot chocolate,

1038
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: really thick chocolate, and that was like their thing that

1039
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: they worshiped with because it made you feel really good.

1040
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: So it's got it's got some cannabinoids in it, it's

1041
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: got some things that sort of get your heart going

1042
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: a little bit, but then it's got other stuff that

1043
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: just you know, science wise, no one really knows why,

1044
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: but it you come away feeling like about the universe. No,

1045
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure anybody who likes chocolate can think of a

1046
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: time they've they had a chocolate that they tried for

1047
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: the first time that was so good and like, like

1048
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Speaker 1: you give a wave fucking washes over you. I don't

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00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: know if I'm being hyperbolic, but sometimes I have that

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00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: sensation something really rich like chocolate. I'm like, I feel

1051
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: like I'm going the hyper space on the Millennium Falcon

1052
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: ship like lines, and I'm like, oh, me too. In fact,

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00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: I can't do it late at night or like I'm

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00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 1: in hyper space and it's not sleeping, you know. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Luckily I don't have that issue. I could I could eat,

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00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: I could eat, I can drink espresso in bad and

1057
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: I'll be fine. But it's just not a good idea

1058
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: to just each other anyway. My wife doesn't like that.

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00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: But what are you when I saw your face going

1060
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: in all kinds of places when you're talking about all

1061
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: the psychoactive chemicals, Because I believe it. I believe it.

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00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: Like my mom growing up, she loved like a dove chocolate,

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00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: so she will like have the in the kitchen little

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00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: things and then they were like perfect, little bite sized

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00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: like pick me up. You know. I think every major

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00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: celebration in my life has had some form of chocolate. Nearby,

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00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's like a birthday cake or you know,

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00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: and I scream after like an epic face. Elf, it's

1069
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: always it's like a I don't know, I think chocolate,

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00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: especially as an American, I'm not sure like globally what

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00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: it's like, but as an American, there's always some chocolate

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00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: nearby if you need to pick me up, or if

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00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: you need to celebrate, or if you need a random

1074
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: gift to hand off this you're seeing somebody randomly, like,

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00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: it's just it's available to us at all times in

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00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: every ways, and I'm grateful for it, right and not

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00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: even like to your point where and it feels like

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00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: that's like it's weird that even a box of chocolate,

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00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: like people like thank you for this gift, you know

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00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: what I mean, Because any other like sweet like quote

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00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: unquote candy, someone might be a little bit like, oh

1082
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: this doesn't quite rise to the occasion. But chocolate, like

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00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: we still like we hold it like that's still sacredance

1084
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: on some level, especially if you get like one of

1085
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: the fancy boxes. Not to be this person. I'm a

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00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: name of a little bit, so I Dashanelle when we

1087
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: wanted her podcast STOs chocolates and I was like, Okay,

1088
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: that's kind of cute. But then I had them and

1089
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is all level cho Yeah

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00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: you're three of these a year. Wow. That totally with

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00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: like the really good stuff. Yeah, the next level stuff.

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00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: It's like you get more of that hit like slightly

1093
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: drug like hit, but it's not too much drug, Like

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00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: that's what that's what's so good about it, you know,

1095
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: like little chocolate mid morning and it's it's just wait, okay,

1096
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: so explain this because there's levels to everything, and like, rowing,

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00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: I know you just said, oh, yeah, the good stuff,

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00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: what are it like, I know, like your latest episode

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00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: is talking about like like big chocolate you know, yeah,

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00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: like and yeah that way, those are the bad guys. Yeah,

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00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: So first off, what's the difference between like a regular

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00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: chocolate that we're like, oh, that's good and one that

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00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: like you're like, this is the this like what are

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00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: the absolute heights of chocolate dumb that I'm not aware

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00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: of or like I'm want to be aware of. Yeah,

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00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: So it kind of goes back to that, partly to

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00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: that fermentation thing. So chocolate it's a huge industry. It's

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Speaker 1: like a like multi bill hundred billion dollar industry, five

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00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: million tons of cacao growing every year, mostly in Africa,

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00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: and there's some real issues with forced labor. They're like

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00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of child labor involved. And the chocolate

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00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,439
Speaker 1: companies have had for like twenty years people that after

1113
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: them saying, y'all gotta figure this out, you know, and

1114
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: the prices they pay are really low, and that's why

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00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: there ends up being this like child labor because the

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00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: farmers in Africa end up have using children because they're

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Speaker 1: being paid so little for their cacao, and they also

1118
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: aren't paid enough to like treat to to like do

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00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: all these quality stuffs that they need to do. But

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Speaker 1: the chocolate companies, the big chocolate companies, they haven't really

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00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: gotten out of their way to try to fix that

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00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: because they want to keep the prices low. Would be

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Speaker 1: that they don't. They don't say that, but it's pretty clear.

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Speaker 1: But then so chocolate originated in the Amazon, in the

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Speaker 1: America's and there's still like these old varieties there that

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00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: have amazing flavor, usually just grown in these like tiny

1127
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: farms in Latin America that have kind of been for

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Speaker 1: ott and about by the industry and that and they

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01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: are often going to all these steps to ferment it

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Speaker 1: really well, to draw out those amazing flavors and those

1131
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: drug like effects more expensive. But and they're also not

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Speaker 1: using flave labor. Right, So the there's a shift now

1133
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: there's are like people are really pushing to like try

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01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: to embrace these these more equitable, more sustainable forms of

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01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: chocolate production coming from the America's and also to have

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01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: that happen more in West Africa as well. Right, So

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01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: that's the difference. It's it's like it's funny every industry.

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01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, and the conditions are so

1139
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: bad for the workers because the cost cutting measures and

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01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: like and exactly what it is in chocolate if if

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01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: the like if you know farmers in like West Africa,

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01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: we're paying workers in equitable wage, how much do you

1143
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: think chocolate would actually cost? Like what kind of like

1144
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: what's the cost thing the savings that the like big

1145
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 1: childhood companies are so like being like, oh man, it's

1146
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: a difference between a five dollar and fucking sixty thing

1147
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: or like what it's not it's the difference between like

1148
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,919
Speaker 1: a two dollar Hershey bar and a three dollar Hershey bar.

1149
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, like so the governments and like Ivy Coast

1150
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: and Ganta have like they just put a premium on

1151
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: their their chocolate right to cow. They're like, all right,

1152
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna charge you an extra four hundred bucks a

1153
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: ton so that all the farmers can have a live

1154
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: mobile wage. And Hershey immediately like went around that and

1155
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: bought like I forget thirty thousand tons of cacao on

1156
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: the futures market at a lower price to get around

1157
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: having to pay that like void premium. So the big,

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01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: the big guys have been avoid trying to avoid higher

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01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: prices at all costs, and they won't be able to

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01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: for long. But yeah, it's not that much different. It's

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Speaker 1: like everything would be a little more expensive. That's that's

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01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: so wild and hers huh, I mean it's like it's again,

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Speaker 1: it's one of these things to you always see about,

1164
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: like fair trade. There's like every year there's a new

1165
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: fair trade thing, you know, because like our consciousness is

1166
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: now realizing. Oh yeah, like we gotta look at our

1167
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: coffee like harvesting practices and you look at this harvesting

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01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: practice and now with chocolate is it like so it

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01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: is a burgeoning movement like it can where because I

1170
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: want to be able to now say I want this

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01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: kind of chocolate because my main rone just put me

1172
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: on what is like? What's what's what's like the Rolls

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01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: Royce of chocolates that we can put some of our

1174
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: listeners onto for who those who participate in the chocolate

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01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: indulging experience. All right, So the real Rolls Royce for

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01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,439
Speaker 1: me right now is a woman I focused on the

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Speaker 1: podcast named Louisa Abraham. She's a Brazilian woman. She came

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01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: out of she quit culinary school like ten years ago

1179
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: when she was in her mid twenties and decided she

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01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: just wanted to make chocolate out of the wild cacao

1181
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: growing in the Amazon. So she's been partnering with these

1182
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: different different indigenous groups and different parts of the Amazon

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01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: to make a chocolate with each of their cocaos and

1184
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: basically to funnel that money back into their commune to Basically,

1185
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: it's a way of because chocolate it grows as an

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01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: understory in the rainforest in the Amazon, like it's a

1187
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: little tree, so if you harvest the chocolate, you don't

1188
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: have to touch the forest, so you can sort of

1189
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 1: keep It's a way of create making money while keeping

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01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: the forest alive, so she's partnering with these different groups

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01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: in the Amazon to do that. And also each one

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01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: of those cocos has a totally different flavor to it, right,

1193
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: so you can kind of like taste all these different

1194
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: flavors of the of the rainforest through your chocolates. Probably

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01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: fermented to right and beautifully fermented. That's one because and

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Speaker 1: I was with her, like you go to these areas

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Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, you know, you're like sleeping in a

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Speaker 1: hammock and trying not to get eaten by a crocodile,

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Speaker 1: and you're teaching these workshops about how to ferment the

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Speaker 1: beans to make really good chocolate. Yeah. Wow, okay, we'll

1201
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: see now I can now I'm armed with some some

1202
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: good conversation for things. Can you drop the name again

1203
01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: for listen? A B R A M. And she has

1204
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 1: an awesome Instagram account, so where with amazing images of

1205
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: what she's doing. That's a good place for everyone to start. Okay, fantastic. Always,

1206
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: like I'll see, I always like to meet people who've

1207
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: got like a level of expertise on something like something

1208
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: like this, because it's been very eye opening. Rollan, thanks

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01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: so much for that and thanks again for stopping by

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01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: the Daily Zeitgeist. Rowan, where can people find you and

1211
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: follow you? And and the podcast? Where can they find that? Yeah?

1212
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: So me, I'm Rowan Jacobson dot com. And you can

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01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: actually find the podcast you there. But the podcast is

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01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: Obsessions Wild Chocolate and it's on my heart. That is

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01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: the easiest place to find it. But it's on all

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01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: the other platforms too. Fantastic fantastic. Uh And is there

1217
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: a tweet or any other work of social media that

1218
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying or anything like that you want to

1219
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: shout out the cultural tutor on Twitter. I don't know

1220
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: if you ever seen I don't know who this person is,

1221
01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: but it's like awesome little tweet threads of out some

1222
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: random piece of culture that you've never heard of, and

1223
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: you always walk away like, wow, I knew nothing about

1224
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: that and I learned something today. Oh wow, Oh yeah

1225
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: this a colics? You're right, okay, little little lessons I

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Speaker 1: like that if you. Yeah, like like the inside of

1227
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Speaker 1: a history teacher's mind, and it's like, yeah, I guess

1228
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: I could tweet something every day. Here's another nugget the

1229
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: inside of the cool history teacher. Like, yeah, when you're like, yeah,

1230
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: I like this guy's class. Yeah, like my history teacher,

1231
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: Mr Wooler. We said I won't smoke pot with you

1232
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: guys when you graduate, but if if it was made

1233
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: legal in California, I would do it with you. It's

1234
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: just a matter of legality. Shout out to him. He

1235
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: just seems like he might be that guy. Yeah, yeah,

1236
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't doubt it. I would not doubt it. Joel. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me today. Where can

1238
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: people find you? Follow you and support you and listen

1239
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: to you. And what's a tweet that you like? Yeah? Uh,

1240
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: y'all know and can find me all over the internet

1241
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: at Joel when he gets j O E L L

1242
01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: E M O N I Q you E. I have

1243
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: access to all of these social media's, but predominantly I'm

1244
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: at Instagram and over on the Hive. Now it's some

1245
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: Hive things I've been enjoying. This is from Vita Ayala,

1246
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: really talented writer. They say if Twitter was work, I'm

1247
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: hoping Hive will be like a lobby at the bar

1248
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: Con Hotel for everyone who doesn't want to drink or

1249
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: smooth is meeting up to get milkshakes and hang out

1250
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: with their friends slash meeting friends. You remember when social

1251
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: media was fun. That's hive, y'all. That's high. Also, before

1252
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: I bounce it, just really really want to encourage everyone

1253
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: to go give Steven Spielberg's new film a chance. It's

1254
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: called The Fableman's It is a pseudo documentary about his childhood.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if a master director decided to take a look

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Speaker 1: at their life with a Tony and Oscar winning writer.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. And Michelle Williams, who won an Oscar for

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Speaker 1: My Week with Maryland a long time ago, stars in

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Speaker 1: it as Steven's mom, and she is breathtaking. She's brilliant.

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Speaker 1: It is such a good movie. It is heartwarming and

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Speaker 1: devastating and inspiring and then, like all Spielberg movies, uplifting.

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Speaker 1: It's delightful. Go see it. Make sure it makes money

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Speaker 1: so people will continue to support films like this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh my, I said Tony Award winning and referencing Tony Kushner, Right,

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Speaker 1: I saw the pun there I was in it. It

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Speaker 1: was there was there a tweet not just saying just

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Speaker 1: like I gave you all the good stuff from the hive,

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Speaker 1: just get in there now before it melts down. I

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Speaker 1: think only two people run it. I feel like that's

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Speaker 1: the one tweet I see over and over. It's like,

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Speaker 1: it ain't you ready for millions yet? But it is not.

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Speaker 1: It crashes frequently, but the times you can access it

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Speaker 1: are beautiful, and if there's um you can either buy

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Speaker 1: songs for your page their dollar ninety nine to help

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Speaker 1: support the app, or there's a website, which of course

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but you can definitely google it where

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Speaker 1: if you're the kind of person who has a hundred

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Speaker 1: plus dollars to donate, they're basically taking like investor donations

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Speaker 1: to hopefully, you know, enrich their structure and also bring

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Speaker 1: in more staff soon hopefully, fingers crossed, we'll see. I

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Speaker 1: like it. I wanted to survive. It's been a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. We need somewhere to yell at each other

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Speaker 1: and tweet stuff like do horses get bored? Shout out

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Speaker 1: to everybody who were applied to that threat, because I

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Speaker 1: really I was like, damn sometimes if you'd be feeling

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Speaker 1: bad for a horse just standing there ship Anyway, some

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Speaker 1: tweets that I like, uh, Griffin gulledge at Griffin Gollage Street.

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Speaker 1: And no one is more prepared to lose their entire

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Speaker 1: online social media identity than millennials who have lost their

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Speaker 1: A I am my Space, Google Reader, Google Plus and

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Speaker 1: remember the early years of Facebook. We will only return

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Speaker 1: more powerful, more annoying than before. Yeah, we've been through this.

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Speaker 1: We've been through this. We don't worry. We always know,

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Speaker 1: we always find each other. We know where the after

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Speaker 1: party is eventually. Uh. And then this one is from

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Speaker 1: at Rejected Hannah. It's a video of like the press

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Speaker 1: tour for a Strange World with Jabuki Mr jillen All,

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Speaker 1: and there's she tweeted this silence. I would have killed

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Speaker 1: myself on the spot. This is Jake Jillenhall wrapping up

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Speaker 1: like this junket interview for Strange Worlds, flanked by his

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Speaker 1: co stars, and he thinks he's just killing it with

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Speaker 1: this little quip here on the Strange World Junket. I

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Speaker 1: think they're all very relatable. You know, this world, this

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Speaker 1: world we live in today is a pretty strange world too.

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Speaker 1: They let that one hair dry that turned to Jabouki like,

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Speaker 1: please give me something, jabouk he said, do not get

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Speaker 1: me mixed up in this. I think I can for

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Speaker 1: my comedy, I can't laugh at just anything. I think

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Speaker 1: you can hear the producer be like okey dokey, because

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Speaker 1: let me just play it again. I want to make

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Speaker 1: sure as it say, Oh jabouky okay, someone's asking JABOOKI.

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Speaker 1: Here's a question for you. That's amazing. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: You can find me at Miles of Gray where there's

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Speaker 1: at symbols. Just pick one. I'll probably be there eventually.

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Speaker 1: Miles and Jack got mad boost These we also got

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Speaker 1: also got that other podcast for twenty day Fiance if

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Speaker 1: can find the Dailies that Guys at Daily see cash

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Speaker 1: a Facebook fan Paise, and website Dailies that Guys dot com.

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Speaker 1: We're posts the episodes and our footnote but notes thank

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Speaker 1: you Joel, where you can check all that out. Plus

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Speaker 1: the song we write out on the song We're gonna

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Speaker 1: write out today is from the new Oh seven Oh

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Speaker 1: Shake album. Uh. This track is called Cocoon and this

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Speaker 1: goes hard. If you don't know about oh seven Oh Shake, Uh,

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Speaker 1: the Jersey native. I always got love for for the

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Speaker 1: Jersey artists. Just an amazing rapper and singer and it's

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Speaker 1: just a just a good track to check out. So

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Speaker 1: this is Cocoon by seven Shake alright. Cool? Well, you

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Speaker 1: radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts,

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Speaker 1: and we'll be back later to tell you what's trending

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Speaker 1: and then we'll see that all right Bye,