1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: At around two point thirty on Wednesday morning, Donald Trump 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: took the stage at his campaign headquarters in mar A 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: Lago to claim victory in the US presidential election. 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: Look what happened? Is this crazy? But it's a political 6 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 3: victory that our country has never seen before, nothing like this. 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: I want to thank the American people for the extraordinary 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: honor of being elected your forty seventh president and your 9 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 3: forty fifth president. 10 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: Earlier, as the campaign watch party for Vice President Kamala 11 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: Harris wound down at her alma mater, Howard University, her 12 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: campaign co chair Cedric Richmond, briefly addressed the crowd, so. 13 00:00:54,800 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: You won't hear from the Vice president tonight, but you 14 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: will hear from her tomorrow. 15 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: When Trump spoke alongside his family, inner circle and running 16 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: mate J. D. Vance, he'd already secured two hundred and 17 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: sixty seven of the two hundred and seventy electoral college 18 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: votes he needed, clinching wins in the key battleground states 19 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: of Georgia, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania, and at five thirty am, 20 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: Trump was declared the projected winner of Wisconsin's ten electoral 21 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 2: college votes, bringing his total to two hundred and seventy seven. 22 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: As the results came into focus, markets reacted and the 23 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: so called Trump trade searched. Bitcoin spiked, the dollar posted 24 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: its biggest gain against major currencies since twenty twenty, clean 25 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: energy took a hit, and Treasury bonds humbled. Today on 26 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: the show how Election Day played out, reactions from around 27 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: the world, and what we can expect from a second 28 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: Trump term, I'm Sarah Holder, and this is the Big 29 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 2: Take from Bloomberg News. It's four am in Washington, d C. 30 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: I'm joined by Bloomberg Senior Washington editor Wendy Benjaminson. So, Wendy, 31 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: for people waking up today and catching up what happened overnight. 32 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has won the presidency. It was not as 33 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: close as we expected it to be. 34 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: Well, Wendy, how does this year's Trump win compared to 35 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: his path to victory in twenty sixteen. 36 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: Well, it's not that dissimilar. He took all of the South, 37 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: he took a large swath of the Midwest, the Plain States, 38 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: and this time again he managed to break through that 39 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: so called blue wall. I think we're going to have 40 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: to rename that now because in twenty sixteen, Hillary Clinton 41 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: failed to get all of the Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, that 42 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: industrial blue wall the Democrats have to win, and it 43 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: appears that Donald Trump succeeded in that blue wall. 44 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: What was Trump able to do this campaign cycle that 45 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: he failed to do in twenty twenty. 46 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: Well, this is one of those weird Donald Trump can 47 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: get away with stuff sort of elections. He fared far 48 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: better with Hispanic voters than he did in twenty sixteen 49 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: or twenty twenty. And remember in twenty sixteen, one of 50 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: his famous lines was Mexico is sending us their criminals 51 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: and rapists, and a lot of Hispanic voters took events 52 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: to that. The Sunday before October twenty seventh, he held 53 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: a rally of Madison Square Garden where a comedian called 54 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage. And yet he 55 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: fared far better, according to exit polls with Latino voters 56 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 1: than he ever has. 57 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: That didn't seem to matter in the way that people 58 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: thought it might. 59 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: Right, And remember Donald Trump allso so one this time 60 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: against twenty sixteen, with thirty four felony convictions, a civil 61 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: claim holding him responsible for rape, appointing Supreme Court justices 62 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: who overturned Roe versus Wade, and a number of other 63 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: comments that he's made or proposals that he has put 64 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: forward that seem anathema to most Americans. And yet here 65 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: we are, and while the gender gap and reproductive rights 66 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: were the issues that were going to push her over 67 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: the top, it failed to materialize against the popular support 68 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump seems to have had. 69 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: You mentioned some of these issues that didn't seem to 70 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: face voters when it came to Donald Trump. But let's 71 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: talk about some of the issues that did decide this election. 72 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: We've been talking all election season about the polls, including 73 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: the Bloomberg News Morning Consult polls that showed that voters 74 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: considered the economy their number one issue. Abortion also ranked 75 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 2: highly immigration. What do we know at this point about 76 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: how those issues specifically impacted the results we saw tonight? 77 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: Donald Trump he pinned the economy, the post COVID economy, 78 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: even though it has recovered by all measures. He pinned 79 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: that on Joe Biden and by extension, Kamala Harris. He 80 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: kept doing that over and over again, even though his 81 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: rhetoric on immigration was authoritarian, talking about deporting millions of people, 82 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: closing the border, building all those sort of things. Voters 83 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: want a secure border, and he talked about it constantly, 84 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: even down to the falsehoods about Haitian immigrants eating cats 85 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: in Springfield, Ohio. It all spoke to voters deep fears 86 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: about the other. In quotes coming in, Kamala Harris talked 87 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: a little about immigration, saying that she would sign the 88 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: bill that Donald Trump killed last year in Congress. She 89 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: talked about a carrying economy and opportunity economy. But a 90 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: lot of the time the Democrats focused on just how 91 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: awful Donald Trump is, and people who think he's awful 92 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: already think he's awful the people. Then there are people 93 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: who think he's an awful person, but they like his policies, 94 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: and then there's the people who actually don't think he's awful. 95 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is awful is now a proven two time 96 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: losing strategy, and yet the Democrats kept doing that over 97 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: and over again. And here we are, well. 98 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: What about Trump's economic policies attracted voters and how much 99 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: are we going to see the results? 100 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: Well, that's going to be the big question, Sarah, Because 101 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: his economic policies he promised to offer, he offered so 102 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: many tax cuts that if every single one of them 103 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: were enacted, I'm not even sure the US government could 104 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: function because there just wouldn't be enough money coming in. 105 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: Some of those will be enacted, but it couldn't be 106 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: all of them. The tariffs he is proposing, placing sixty 107 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: percent tariffs or more on imports from China that many 108 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: economists say is going to raise prices for consumers. And 109 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: his immigration policy if he carries out the deportation of 110 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: twelve million undocumented workers in this country, an undertaking that 111 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't even know how something like that works or 112 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: how long it would take. Nevertheless, that is going to 113 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: put a huge hole in the construction industry, in the 114 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: agricultural industry, and could possibly hurt the American economy. So 115 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: we'll see how popular these ideas are after he begins 116 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: to enact them. 117 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: Well, despite these long term concerns, and even before some 118 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: of these key states we're talking about were called, we 119 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: saw markets responding to Trump's lead. How did they respond? 120 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: Well, the dollar go stronger overnight in preparation for these 121 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: tariffs to be enacted. It's very good news for bitcoin. 122 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: He's a huge supporter of crypto and a number of 123 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: markets rose and anticipation of certainty. I think it is 124 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: not necessarily that they are happy Donald Trump won. It's 125 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: they know who the president is and they are reacting 126 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: to that. 127 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: After the break will dig deeper into the Trump campaign 128 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: promises that could become the administration's policies and what it 129 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: all means for the global economy. Wendy What if Donald 130 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 2: Trump's promises on the campaign trail told us about what 131 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: his next administration is likely to prioritize in office. 132 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: His priorities will certainly be the economy and immigration first 133 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: and foremost. The difference this time is that in twenty sixteen, 134 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: of traditional Republicans, because that was the only kind there 135 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: was in twenty sixteen, joined his cabinet, joined his administration 136 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: because they wanted to show this newcomer how government works 137 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: and set up some guard rails for some of his 138 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: more outlandish ideas. That's not happening this time. This time 139 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: he is going to be surrounded by people who are 140 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: loyal to him. Loyal to him is the keyword, not 141 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: the constitution, the rule of law, things like that. So 142 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 1: I think there is some fear out there about the 143 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: disappearing of the guard rails that were there in his 144 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: first term. 145 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: What do tonight's results say about the future of abortion 146 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: access in this country. 147 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: Well, it is certainly now a state's issue. There is 148 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: not enough Democrats or pro reproductive rights members of Congress 149 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: to codify Roe Versus Way to put abortion rights back 150 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: into law, and so the Supreme Court decision to send 151 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: it to the states and have a patchwork of laws 152 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: all over the country seems to be now the way 153 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: it is. Remember also that there are still two Supreme 154 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: Court justices who are nearing the age at which they 155 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: might retire or pass on, and Donald Trump will have 156 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: an opportunity with a Republican Senate, at least for the 157 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: first two years, to appoint two more conservative justices on 158 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, which would of course make the Supreme 159 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: Court one of the most conservative in US history. 160 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: So if Republicans do maintain control of both chambers of 161 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: Congress and the presidency, what will it mean for US 162 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: spending on geopolitical conflicts like the war in Ukraine or 163 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: in the Middle East. 164 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: Well, the Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky put out a statement 165 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: this morning congratulating Trump and looking forward to his decisive leadership, 166 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: and that was the right thing to say. Diplomatically, Donald 167 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: Trump is very much into making deals. He wants to 168 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: make a deal with Putin. He wants Putin and Zelenski 169 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: to come to a table and come to terms. Those 170 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: terms would end up probably being more favorable to Russia 171 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: than to Ukraine, and the US would no longer support 172 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: Ukraine and its fight against the invasion. It is also 173 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: extremely good news for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Kamala 174 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: Harris had at least suggested some interest in the humanitarian 175 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: crisis going on in Gaza, and what former President Trump 176 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: has said is that bb Netanyahu's nickname Bib, needs to 177 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: finish the job in Gaza. And so despite the fact 178 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: that I think he got more Arab American support than 179 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: one would have suspected, I think this is a very 180 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: good day for Putin and Netanyahu. 181 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: This is the big take from Bloomberg News. I'm Sarah Holder. 182 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: This episode was produced by David Fox, Thomas Lou and 183 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: Julia Press. 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