1
00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,040
Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue,

2
00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,720
Speaker 1: Joe Grande, and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers

3
00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,520
Speaker 1: at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis.

4
00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,480
Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one, the

5
00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,279
Speaker 1: world's number one source for everything cannabis. My name is Blue,

6
00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,400
Speaker 1: alongside him is Joe Grande and Joe let us know

7
00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:22,919
Speaker 1: what's going down on the show. Well, I want to

8
00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,319
Speaker 1: thank everybody for listening to the podcast Cannabis Talk one

9
00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,440
Speaker 1: on one all around the world. We greatly appreciate each

10
00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:28,840
Speaker 1: and every one of you guys for tuning in and

11
00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,479
Speaker 1: checking out our show. Make sure you go to the

12
00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,479
Speaker 1: website Cannabis Talk one on one dot com is we

13
00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,879
Speaker 1: are the world's number one source for everything cannabis and

14
00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,880
Speaker 1: call us up anytime and say hello. One. Go ahead

15
00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,720
Speaker 1: and check out our Instagram page Cannabis Talk one oh one.

16
00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,600
Speaker 1: Of course all the YouTube videos too that are on

17
00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,720
Speaker 1: our YouTube page at Cannabis Talk one on one. Well,

18
00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,320
Speaker 1: Blue is at one, Christopher writes and I am at

19
00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,600
Speaker 1: Joe Grande A fifty two and I gotta remind everybody

20
00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,200
Speaker 1: about cali effects. Their full and broad spectrum hip Extracted

21
00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,960
Speaker 1: products contain c B, D, CBG, and some plus other

22
00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,520
Speaker 1: elements and are naturally derived substance from the hemp and plant.

23
00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,160
Speaker 1: Check out the Tinksters, Waters Topicals and vape collection go

24
00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,360
Speaker 1: fill the effects with Kelly Effects. Kelly Effects dot com

25
00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,960
Speaker 1: is their website and their new drink is amazing. I

26
00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,240
Speaker 1: just had it the other day. I just can't say

27
00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,840
Speaker 1: enough about you. I didn't have to teach, oh did I?

28
00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what I tried. No. I think they

29
00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,959
Speaker 1: had to be the one that wasn't. So I think

30
00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,720
Speaker 1: it was here here, It was here, and it was

31
00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,040
Speaker 1: on my desk, And I don't think it was teach

32
00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,200
Speaker 1: because I didn't feel any pain relief of like this

33
00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:35,120
Speaker 1: tingly sensational that being said something that's not going to

34
00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,280
Speaker 1: nod out with us. Our guests today, Adam Moody, thank

35
00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:38,959
Speaker 1: you so much for coming on. He's the director of

36
00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,320
Speaker 1: manufacturing at Alchemy twenty nine Extracting and Processing. Now check

37
00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,800
Speaker 1: out the website Alchemy dash twenty nine, which is a L. H. E. M.

38
00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,480
Speaker 1: Y Dash twenty nine dot com. Are on Instagram at

39
00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,520
Speaker 1: Alchemy dot twenty nine. Over at Alchemy twenty nine they

40
00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,960
Speaker 1: are crafting the future of cannabis cultivation and extraction. Now,

41
00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,640
Speaker 1: this is amazing about these guys because they're all chemists

42
00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:07,800
Speaker 1: attempt to purify, mature, and perfect certain materials. At Alchemy

43
00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,560
Speaker 1: twenty nine, they have a passionate team of chemists, culturvaders, genetics, designers,

44
00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,720
Speaker 1: pH d s, and connoisseurs dedicated to purifying, maturing, and

45
00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,880
Speaker 1: perfecting the cannabis at every level possible. And listening to you,

46
00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,280
Speaker 1: Adam outside, I know you said you geek off just

47
00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,200
Speaker 1: staying in the lab doing this. They are crafting the

48
00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,560
Speaker 1: future of cannabis cultivating and extraction. Now. Adam went to

49
00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,480
Speaker 1: the University of California educated in business, economics and political

50
00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:40,680
Speaker 1: science with specializations and operational organization, optimization, manufacturing process, labor utilizations,

51
00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,480
Speaker 1: through put, and competitive analysis. Welcome to the show. I

52
00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,360
Speaker 1: actually had to look up the word through put because

53
00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,120
Speaker 1: it did not know what that means. And that's just

54
00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,560
Speaker 1: very thorough and I loved it that I had to

55
00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,440
Speaker 1: even do research on that. Adam, Welcome to the show.

56
00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,399
Speaker 1: It is great to have you. I want to talk

57
00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,880
Speaker 1: about your company, and just to even put this out

58
00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,320
Speaker 1: there for the listeners. Were also going to talk to

59
00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,000
Speaker 1: him because he worked at Lowell, and Lowell was a

60
00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,640
Speaker 1: whole dynamic of drama and ironic things that happened. And

61
00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,600
Speaker 1: I definitely want to go down that road with you, Adam,

62
00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,320
Speaker 1: and I know you're open to it. But let's talk

63
00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,239
Speaker 1: first about what you're currently doing. Because this company that

64
00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,519
Speaker 1: everything I just read is right up our alley, meaning

65
00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,760
Speaker 1: you guys are doing research. You guys are looking for

66
00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,120
Speaker 1: what's best for people. You guys are using chemists, you

67
00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:26,000
Speaker 1: guys PhDs, you're using all these people that have brains

68
00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:32,000
Speaker 1: to create things to better make cannabis use for the environments. Right,

69
00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,480
Speaker 1: that's what you guys are doing, absolutely, and we're thinking

70
00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,800
Speaker 1: towards cannabis three point out. You know, it's all about

71
00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,960
Speaker 1: modernization and evolution of industries, and we're thinking it's finally

72
00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,000
Speaker 1: time to come out of the shadows and start putting

73
00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,720
Speaker 1: in automation, start putting in research, development and proprietary methods

74
00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,440
Speaker 1: and back except to you know, how do you even

75
00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,120
Speaker 1: get involved and something like that? What what is your

76
00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,200
Speaker 1: childhood take you to before you're like, oh my god,

77
00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,440
Speaker 1: you know you're playing with all these labs and your

78
00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,040
Speaker 1: chemist basically in there messing with you know, multimillion dollar

79
00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,480
Speaker 1: property into tease and all these other things. How did

80
00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,160
Speaker 1: it even come to walk us through your story? It's

81
00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,040
Speaker 1: completely surreal, to be honest with you. I never thought

82
00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,680
Speaker 1: I was going to get into the cannabis industry. It

83
00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,040
Speaker 1: happened kind of all at once. So I moved to

84
00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:17,760
Speaker 1: Irvine to go to college to start my business degree Irvine. Yeah. So,

85
00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,560
Speaker 1: so I I got on the internet and at the

86
00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,159
Speaker 1: time I think it was it wasn't weed Maps, but

87
00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,440
Speaker 1: they had a different one of those proprieted marketing websites.

88
00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:32,719
Speaker 1: And I remember leaf before even Leafley. We that's a

89
00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,600
Speaker 1: good one. We'd find we'd find her place, hold her

90
00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,880
Speaker 1: name whatever. So I looked up a dispensary and I

91
00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,720
Speaker 1: found what advertised itself as a Los Angeles dispensary in

92
00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,640
Speaker 1: Lake Forest. So I got in my car. I had

93
00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,640
Speaker 1: headed down to Raymond Street, right off of El Toro,

94
00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,440
Speaker 1: and behind this uh sushi restaurant that couldn't even spell

95
00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,760
Speaker 1: all you can Eat, there was a dispensary and behind

96
00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,680
Speaker 1: this white door there there was this tall gentleman and

97
00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,800
Speaker 1: his two bud tenders and they were just hustling out

98
00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,800
Speaker 1: of courage ours and I remember st behind six or

99
00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,760
Speaker 1: seven people waiting for you. Must have been five minutes

100
00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,039
Speaker 1: for them to get me to the front of the line.

101
00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,599
Speaker 1: I remember I got I walked up to the owner

102
00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,640
Speaker 1: and I just said, you need another guy on the scale.

103
00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,480
Speaker 1: And that was my first day in cannabis. Adam, did

104
00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,960
Speaker 1: you know that that shop was illegal at the time?

105
00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,760
Speaker 1: This was two fifteen, so like they were claiming to

106
00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,880
Speaker 1: be illegal. But once again, let me ask the same question, Adam,

107
00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,520
Speaker 1: at that time, did you know that was still an

108
00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,440
Speaker 1: illegal shop? What you say? I had no idea. I

109
00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,279
Speaker 1: was bushytail than bride eyed. I I didn't even know.

110
00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,960
Speaker 1: That's so funny though about the industry that like thinking

111
00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,400
Speaker 1: when you say Lake four is like, dude, there's nothing

112
00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,640
Speaker 1: legal about far south? You gotter go further south? Are

113
00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,880
Speaker 1: you better go north than ever? And never? And I

114
00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,960
Speaker 1: came from out Lay. There were dispensaries here and we

115
00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,560
Speaker 1: just used to go in and out of them like

116
00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,880
Speaker 1: it was nothing. A lot of the we are the

117
00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,840
Speaker 1: igal legal right exactly. It's it's but it's hard and

118
00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm not condemning you. I'm actually like everybody. But he's

119
00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,440
Speaker 1: talking about ten years ago, right yeah, I mean yeah,

120
00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,560
Speaker 1: I mean this was two thousand five. It could happen today.

121
00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,680
Speaker 1: Dogging Lake Forest right now, some kid that's, you know,

122
00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:06,520
Speaker 1: twenty years old here in California and the it is

123
00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,640
Speaker 1: happening and all of that. They're they're working there and

124
00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,760
Speaker 1: they're like telling their friends, I work here, and where

125
00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,680
Speaker 1: do you live. We've talked to girls that work at shop. No,

126
00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,080
Speaker 1: this shop is legit. It's happening, like, no one, it's not.

127
00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,799
Speaker 1: You're in Anaheim. Oh no, we're super legit. No, you're here.

128
00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,160
Speaker 1: You can't be if you're here, you know, Lincoln. No.

129
00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,839
Speaker 1: So I think you guys are seeing ahead at the

130
00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,840
Speaker 1: story a little bit. But like you can see, they

131
00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,800
Speaker 1: just right on YouTube help yourselves and go watch what

132
00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,479
Speaker 1: you found out there the raid for this dispensary. And

133
00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,440
Speaker 1: that's when I found out that I was. I'm on

134
00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,880
Speaker 1: camera and that raid. Tell me the story of the raid,

135
00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,080
Speaker 1: walk us through that experience. Oh yeah, so that we

136
00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,880
Speaker 1: get this, like just we hear the shuddering bang. And

137
00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,160
Speaker 1: by the time the raid happened, I was managing this dispenser,

138
00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,480
Speaker 1: recounting money in the back, making trips to humbles. You

139
00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,200
Speaker 1: open the front to the manager. I went from a

140
00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:56,800
Speaker 1: scale to a manager in three weeks. I elevate quickly.

141
00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,680
Speaker 1: So so I'm sitting I don't expect nothing less for you,

142
00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,520
Speaker 1: and do the best for my where I work. So

143
00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:02,920
Speaker 1: I was happy to be there and I was doing

144
00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,960
Speaker 1: good work for this guy. And so we hear this

145
00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,600
Speaker 1: giant thud at the door, and then another giant thud

146
00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,320
Speaker 1: at the door. We looked down at the cameras and

147
00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,280
Speaker 1: we just see it looks like just guys with machine

148
00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,240
Speaker 1: guns and masks. At first, we don't even know that

149
00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,320
Speaker 1: it's the police. We think we're getting robbed. Yeah, first

150
00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,480
Speaker 1: your first instinct is these guys are robbing us. The

151
00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:19,920
Speaker 1: first thing we do is you try to high tail

152
00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,480
Speaker 1: it out the back door, and then you get a

153
00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,240
Speaker 1: uniform guy puts the gun right in your face, and

154
00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,640
Speaker 1: that's the moment you realize, oh shit, this is it's

155
00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,000
Speaker 1: the cops. You know, Like, you walk your butt back inside,

156
00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,840
Speaker 1: you get on the floor, you spread your arms out,

157
00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,200
Speaker 1: and then you start pondering to yourself, where did I

158
00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,400
Speaker 1: go wrong? You know, like, where did this legal operation?

159
00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,960
Speaker 1: Because again at the time, I was twenty years old,

160
00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,320
Speaker 1: very bushy tail, like I've walked into there like as

161
00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,480
Speaker 1: a customer thing. I like, wait, I'll get a discount.

162
00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,320
Speaker 1: This is yeah, man, this guy's got tattoos. He's way

163
00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,400
Speaker 1: cooler than me. Like he's got my back, let's go. Yeah.

164
00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:57,840
Speaker 1: And you know how I was back in the day,

165
00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, I always had like the pretty girl up

166
00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,160
Speaker 1: front the sceptionists. Now you have a guy with a

167
00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,040
Speaker 1: gun and a body armor. But back in the day,

168
00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,760
Speaker 1: like that was your you know, They're like, so it

169
00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,320
Speaker 1: was a very different time back then. And I remember

170
00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,680
Speaker 1: that was when I learned stubbornness. You know, Like after

171
00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,960
Speaker 1: we after we got we bailed out of jail, we

172
00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,280
Speaker 1: we found all of our houses were destroyed, all of it.

173
00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,440
Speaker 1: They took all the flour. But we had been storing

174
00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,080
Speaker 1: our hash in the freezer and under some ice cream,

175
00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,720
Speaker 1: and they left the ice cream and they left all

176
00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,880
Speaker 1: the hash. So after getting absolutely Tarantino level blittered obliterated,

177
00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,680
Speaker 1: we basically just put the hash in the ice cream

178
00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,280
Speaker 1: on all the shelf and just reopened the fence. We

179
00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,920
Speaker 1: were like, gotta start somewhere, and like all of our

180
00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,120
Speaker 1: contacts at the time felt bad. They immediately sent their

181
00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,319
Speaker 1: cariers down. They immediately resupplied the store and probably three

182
00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,240
Speaker 1: months later rated again you know, like like they don't

183
00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,360
Speaker 1: they take they don't find it very promising that you

184
00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,680
Speaker 1: do the exact same thing immediately after they tell you

185
00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,320
Speaker 1: that it's wrong. But again I was stubborn by this point,

186
00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,640
Speaker 1: like I was self righteous. I like our lawyer had

187
00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,600
Speaker 1: told us, we're going to get you off. This is

188
00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,320
Speaker 1: absolutely totally fine. You know, you know you always hear

189
00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,760
Speaker 1: that story of this, like these impassioned defenses, but no,

190
00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,719
Speaker 1: you just sit in court for six years and talk

191
00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,600
Speaker 1: about nonsense. You know, it happened. So so eventually I

192
00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,200
Speaker 1: did stop doing retail. So like I, I agreed with

193
00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,880
Speaker 1: the district attorney, you went to the jail, you served

194
00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,920
Speaker 1: in and out eleven days in and out. That I

195
00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,439
Speaker 1: ended up pleading to a misdemeanor and I painted the

196
00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,360
Speaker 1: curbs at Huntington Steep State Beach. That that was my penalty.

197
00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:25,440
Speaker 1: You had to renting releasing a location for It's called

198
00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,600
Speaker 1: community service. Yeah it was community service. Yeah we'll let

199
00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,480
Speaker 1: you go. Yeah yeah, so they so they so let

200
00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,120
Speaker 1: me go, but but like they with a very strong

201
00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:35,960
Speaker 1: warning that this is not for you, and like, go

202
00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,880
Speaker 1: do something else. You're a smart kid, go have go

203
00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,679
Speaker 1: do something else. So so my brilliant mind decides that

204
00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go start growing weed in Santa Cruz. You know,

205
00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,600
Speaker 1: like like what's the next step, you know, like go

206
00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,480
Speaker 1: behind the tree. So you did get a case, so

207
00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,800
Speaker 1: a minor one, you know, like like infraction or misdemeanors. Yeah,

208
00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,360
Speaker 1: like misdemeanter probation. So I had to I had to

209
00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,600
Speaker 1: be good. Yeah, it was informal grow weak. I mean

210
00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,120
Speaker 1: that's what we always have been told is you just

211
00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,040
Speaker 1: go up north and you get a really good probation

212
00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,760
Speaker 1: officer and then you just go back to work. You know.

213
00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,080
Speaker 1: It's like education. Like yeah, I always say you guys

214
00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,320
Speaker 1: talking about university, you know, like I went to u

215
00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,240
Speaker 1: C I for college, but like I went to Upper

216
00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,720
Speaker 1: Division Weed School. Yeah, that was grad school there. We

217
00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:18,320
Speaker 1: go exactly my doctorate. So we started doing forever flowers,

218
00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,880
Speaker 1: like during the end of Prop. Two fifteen when when

219
00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,080
Speaker 1: recreation was coming in, and we we did eight uh

220
00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,480
Speaker 1: light assisted greenhouses on a sand on a Watsonville property

221
00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,640
Speaker 1: and and now the entire county is covered in them. Really, yeah,

222
00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,480
Speaker 1: it's really just an honor to be a part of it.

223
00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,600
Speaker 1: Like we we we talked about a tongue in cheek,

224
00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,000
Speaker 1: like like we knew it was illegal, But I don't

225
00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,800
Speaker 1: think that really mattered as much as it does now.

226
00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,679
Speaker 1: You know, like now we have to keep clean and

227
00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,800
Speaker 1: make sure that like we we operate our businesses with

228
00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,000
Speaker 1: the utmost like efficiency and compliance. But like back then,

229
00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,079
Speaker 1: like there wasn't compliance. You know, buy cannabis from anybody

230
00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,679
Speaker 1: who's selling it and put it out and this and that. Now,

231
00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,560
Speaker 1: like even working at a company where you're at, you're like, okay,

232
00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,440
Speaker 1: we can't do a none of that stuff. Yeah they

233
00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,160
Speaker 1: grab this, can't grab that. Now it's got to go

234
00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,719
Speaker 1: straight through this and no, it's gotta go through metric exactly. Now.

235
00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,720
Speaker 1: I mean it's such a it's such a different um

236
00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, industry, but but yet needs to be uh

237
00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,960
Speaker 1: you know, so regulated at the moment because you know,

238
00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,960
Speaker 1: if not, then there's too many corners gonna be cut

239
00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,280
Speaker 1: right and the safety of whomever is taking it in

240
00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,719
Speaker 1: I guess would be important. Hunter personally, I couldn't agree more.

241
00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,080
Speaker 1: Like fast forward ten years and I'm doing a forensic

242
00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,840
Speaker 1: audit with c d pH as a representative of LOW

243
00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,120
Speaker 1: and like I passed that thing with flying colors, And

244
00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,160
Speaker 1: this is the same whippers napper. We thought he would

245
00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,079
Speaker 1: go to Santa Cruise and learn how to grow as

246
00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,440
Speaker 1: a like informal probation on it, you know, like I

247
00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,840
Speaker 1: have a clean record now, I live scan for compliant

248
00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,640
Speaker 1: for licenses, and and now now I do believe just

249
00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,760
Speaker 1: like you, that we need to clean the industry up.

250
00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,680
Speaker 1: Passionate operators are not an excuse for cutting corners, just

251
00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,320
Speaker 1: like you said. And again, I'm sure we'll talk about

252
00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,160
Speaker 1: it a little bit more exactly. It's like there's so

253
00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,600
Speaker 1: many talented people in this industry, but like the ones

254
00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,840
Speaker 1: that we talk about most are the ones that really

255
00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,640
Speaker 1: just crashed straight into a brick wall for us. Do

256
00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,320
Speaker 1: you want to touch Lowell before we get into your

257
00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,120
Speaker 1: new company or you want to go We're gonna come back.

258
00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,679
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to Adam Moody about his new company,

259
00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,000
Speaker 1: Alchemy twenty nine. It's Cannabis Talk one on one. Will

260
00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,600
Speaker 1: be right back after this. We'll be right back with

261
00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:26,400
Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one oh one. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk

262
00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,839
Speaker 1: one oh one. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one on

263
00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:33,400
Speaker 1: one with Blue Joe Grande and the story goes, the

264
00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,920
Speaker 1: story goes. As we're talking to Adam, there's so many

265
00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,760
Speaker 1: things that we're gonna touch on, but before we do,

266
00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,360
Speaker 1: I just want you guys to know that known as

267
00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,480
Speaker 1: the Cannabis Factory Canada, Canada AID has one of the

268
00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,360
Speaker 1: first brands on the market, you guys, with Delta eight.

269
00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,640
Speaker 1: But they don't stop there. So today they carried Delta nine,

270
00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,640
Speaker 1: Delta tan th h C O h h C t

271
00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,600
Speaker 1: H t V, and so much more so Google Cannabinoid Factory,

272
00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,600
Speaker 1: you guys, Cannabinoid A candidate. They are doing big things.

273
00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,880
Speaker 1: You definitely want to check those guys out over there

274
00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,800
Speaker 1: as they do that. And talking about doing big things

275
00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,679
Speaker 1: at a moody, I love what your company is currently

276
00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,880
Speaker 1: doing right now. Everything I've read so far so and

277
00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,720
Speaker 1: everything that you talked about now overheard you speaking on

278
00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,880
Speaker 1: the stories of the labs that you're in and the

279
00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,560
Speaker 1: things that you're making and the first things that you've

280
00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,760
Speaker 1: made and created and come up with, and you're such

281
00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,160
Speaker 1: a I like to call genius to be honest with you,

282
00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,439
Speaker 1: because like when I hear you you talking and people

283
00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,679
Speaker 1: like you talking about things like that, I go, that's

284
00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,400
Speaker 1: fucking genius. Because who comes up with making glad, making this,

285
00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,560
Speaker 1: making that, and how do you even fathom trying to

286
00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,760
Speaker 1: do and come up with these different things? So what

287
00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,679
Speaker 1: is it that your company is doing and what are

288
00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,640
Speaker 1: you doing over there with them at good Old Alchemy.

289
00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,679
Speaker 1: So we're trying to introduce a new concept called farmed

290
00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,960
Speaker 1: Package where we want to vertically integrate the entire process

291
00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,960
Speaker 1: that takes the distribution distribution model and starts it from processing.

292
00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,599
Speaker 1: So we really want to go to the farms, we

293
00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,320
Speaker 1: want to help them do the final harvesting stage, take

294
00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,720
Speaker 1: it to one of our auto curring facilities that we're

295
00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,760
Speaker 1: designing ourselves, and and use that PRODUCTSS to break it

296
00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,920
Speaker 1: down into the different products that people want to sell,

297
00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,880
Speaker 1: and then use our distribution capabilities to move it. The

298
00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,200
Speaker 1: goal being is to to basically cooperate with the smaller

299
00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,520
Speaker 1: farmers and the social equity partners that are really getting

300
00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,040
Speaker 1: left behind, like we we we wanted to start with

301
00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,479
Speaker 1: a lower income county so that we had the opportunity

302
00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,640
Speaker 1: to work with farms that we're really falling behind. I mean,

303
00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,080
Speaker 1: once you have the decline and weed prices, a lot

304
00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,280
Speaker 1: of these guys don't really have the capability of getting

305
00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,240
Speaker 1: their product to distributors that will package it. So we

306
00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,680
Speaker 1: came up with this model that what we would do

307
00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,040
Speaker 1: is we would just take that middleman out and become

308
00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,560
Speaker 1: that become that partner with the brands. So they still

309
00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,720
Speaker 1: own the I P, they still on the packaging, they

310
00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,440
Speaker 1: still own the genetics, or they can acquire them from us.

311
00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,440
Speaker 1: But the idea is is we take out the need

312
00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,000
Speaker 1: to buy a three dollar machine, we take out the

313
00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,040
Speaker 1: need to buy a production line, and all of our

314
00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,280
Speaker 1: lines are automated, So we're talking about minimizing costs per

315
00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,880
Speaker 1: touch so that we can do this at the at

316
00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,360
Speaker 1: a savings to an operator that would otherwise have to

317
00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,800
Speaker 1: finance equipment to enter in the space. The goal of

318
00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,440
Speaker 1: as for any co packer and white labelers to give

319
00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,080
Speaker 1: them a step up and then eventually obviously they'll they'll

320
00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,840
Speaker 1: develop themselves and make their own product. But by putting

321
00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,480
Speaker 1: me in the role that I'm in, I can really

322
00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,760
Speaker 1: give them some insight and how to design products that

323
00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,960
Speaker 1: they would not have otherwise thought, and how to use

324
00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,000
Speaker 1: different byproducts to maximize profits, increase revenue, and and really

325
00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,320
Speaker 1: create market share where they didn't otherwise think it existed.

326
00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,200
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, is that a service that you're

327
00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,160
Speaker 1: you're taking on. You're saying, okay, here, you grow it,

328
00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,000
Speaker 1: send it to us, we'll cure it, and we'll take

329
00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,960
Speaker 1: it from from that point. So you just drop off

330
00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,120
Speaker 1: the raw cut, right, the rock cut gets shipped down

331
00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,240
Speaker 1: some kind of fresh frozen or something to keep it cold,

332
00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,280
Speaker 1: however they get it to you, whatever the case is,

333
00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:44,680
Speaker 1: and then you cure it in your facility. Then you're

334
00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:50,600
Speaker 1: gonna package it into pre rolls, extractions, whomever, whatever, right,

335
00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,880
Speaker 1: because you carry all the licenses to do so, correct,

336
00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:58,000
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna destroy it for them or for you,

337
00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,840
Speaker 1: So the their choice. So by creating the full service

338
00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,840
Speaker 1: vertical that that the option really lies with the clients.

339
00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,960
Speaker 1: So if if they have the opportunities to distribute product themselves,

340
00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,840
Speaker 1: then obviously that will stop at a processing level. Some

341
00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,760
Speaker 1: farms will only have us dry, cure, trimmed the material,

342
00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,200
Speaker 1: perhaps put it into a bag or a jar, but

343
00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,760
Speaker 1: not distribute it, in which case we're happy to do that.

344
00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,720
Speaker 1: What we're trying to do is offer what what in

345
00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,520
Speaker 1: other industries is kind of a common market co packer.

346
00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,760
Speaker 1: Totally get it, Yeah, totally, and I love it. I

347
00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,000
Speaker 1: love it. It's well, yeah, I mean some some people

348
00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,080
Speaker 1: need because they don't want to buy everything that you're

349
00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,880
Speaker 1: saying not they have to go buy it right to

350
00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,320
Speaker 1: start doing oils or start making well, a lot of

351
00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,200
Speaker 1: the operators, okay, there's two types. Right. There's the guy

352
00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,000
Speaker 1: that can do the whole ship himself, right, so he's

353
00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,360
Speaker 1: vertically integrated. He can produce it, he can make it,

354
00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,200
Speaker 1: he can distribute to himself. So that guy, you know,

355
00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,120
Speaker 1: and he has the facility and then know how to

356
00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,880
Speaker 1: do right. But then there's the guy that has all

357
00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,800
Speaker 1: those license but really can't do it just because he's

358
00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,400
Speaker 1: already taking on this monster. He's already how to get

359
00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:01,960
Speaker 1: this monster off the ground, but just doesn't know how

360
00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,119
Speaker 1: to distruct maybe you know, maybe he's packaging it, but

361
00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:05,960
Speaker 1: he's like, funk, how do I destroy this thing? You know?

362
00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,800
Speaker 1: And and so on and so forth. There's always those breakdowns.

363
00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,600
Speaker 1: But but as you look into you know, what I'm

364
00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,800
Speaker 1: what I'm foreseeing for this is that there's a lot

365
00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,919
Speaker 1: of operators that need this service right now. And I

366
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,000
Speaker 1: have one, you know, I mean, you know, for example,

367
00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,840
Speaker 1: there's a social equity applicant that we have. They they

368
00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,600
Speaker 1: and they're just starting up their licensing right there. But

369
00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:29,760
Speaker 1: they've got the the growth licensed, extraction license and the

370
00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,800
Speaker 1: um distribution license, but they don't have the growth set

371
00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,560
Speaker 1: up yet. But they have the building. It's in Long Beach.

372
00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,879
Speaker 1: You know, they have all the licenses and their social

373
00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,160
Speaker 1: equity and they're just you know, trying to make it now.

374
00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,239
Speaker 1: Is that someone you'd help too, or is that like

375
00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,040
Speaker 1: they're not for far along, for far enough along yet?

376
00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,399
Speaker 1: So honestly, the vision is in development. So our our

377
00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,520
Speaker 1: goal is to to fully launch this capability for harvest

378
00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,879
Speaker 1: season this year with with our primary avenue for clientele

379
00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,960
Speaker 1: being the outdoor and the greenhouse operators. But but but again,

380
00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,919
Speaker 1: and we're indifferent to the material coming in because we

381
00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,879
Speaker 1: have the capacity to run larger scale operations at fairly

382
00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,960
Speaker 1: efficient processes like are for example, our solventless hashwasher takes

383
00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,320
Speaker 1: the process that usually we take four hours and reduces

384
00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,120
Speaker 1: it down to forty five minutes. Yeah, and where's your facility?

385
00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,320
Speaker 1: Lake County, California. So we Lake County, that's in between

386
00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,359
Speaker 1: Napa and Sonoma. So so drive to Santa Rosa and

387
00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,320
Speaker 1: then drive through a forest and you'll come out of

388
00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,600
Speaker 1: the backside of a hill and what you're here in county.

389
00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,639
Speaker 1: I I come down. I travel a lot to make

390
00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,520
Speaker 1: sure that we stayed there. I am out there now. Well,

391
00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,480
Speaker 1: thank you for coming down to the show. Absolutely absolutely

392
00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,640
Speaker 1: tonight tonight right. I am nice. We got a bed

393
00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,639
Speaker 1: in the back, don't we got you If you need

394
00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,240
Speaker 1: to play perfect, I just need a cot and like

395
00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,200
Speaker 1: a little sheet and covered. We got you covered. Don't

396
00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,800
Speaker 1: worry about that and help yourself. Tony snacks, food and

397
00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,800
Speaker 1: drinks and whatever. But how did you find this company

398
00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,800
Speaker 1: or did they find you? It was it was a

399
00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,959
Speaker 1: mutual effort, you know, you know, like I had just

400
00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,159
Speaker 1: finished my work at Low and I was looking for

401
00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,520
Speaker 1: an opportunity to kind of put my flag into the

402
00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,639
Speaker 1: ground and and really represent more than just a single brand,

403
00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,480
Speaker 1: but but a part of the industry. And I felt,

404
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,400
Speaker 1: just like you mentioned, that this is something that's really

405
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,600
Speaker 1: needed and something that's really being overlooked, and it's an

406
00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,600
Speaker 1: opportunity to really put my name on something that I'm

407
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,639
Speaker 1: passionate about. So when when I was faced with the opportunity,

408
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:17,879
Speaker 1: it was a big move, you know, Like I'm from

409
00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,520
Speaker 1: Sherman Oaks, so like going up to Lake County where

410
00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,840
Speaker 1: the entire county has sixty seven thousand people. Wow, Sherman

411
00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,960
Speaker 1: Oaks has on my block. I think I had thirty.

412
00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,040
Speaker 1: So it was really a culture clash. But I I

413
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 1: no regrets and I'm not looking back, and I really

414
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:37,920
Speaker 1: love the community that I get to be a part

415
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,159
Speaker 1: of the way that we look at it is NAPA

416
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,960
Speaker 1: didn't start NAPA. We have an opportunity to make Lake

417
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,960
Speaker 1: County like a nap of of of Canadas like. We

418
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,920
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to bring high paying jobs to a

419
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,359
Speaker 1: a a lower income county, and we're talking about developing

420
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 1: very large pots of land for for cultivation. Many of

421
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,680
Speaker 1: the cities and you know, they're they're welcome, they're welcoming.

422
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,879
Speaker 1: The the growth can't. So we work with the county.

423
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,199
Speaker 1: So a lot of these are what's called census designated areas,

424
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,680
Speaker 1: so we don't always work with cities. What we do

425
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 1: is work primarily with the Bard of Supervisors because it's

426
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,439
Speaker 1: a small county. There's growing pains. You know, you've got

427
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 1: two hundred forty three applications and you've got a board

428
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,640
Speaker 1: of supervisors with a very finite budget. I mean, they

429
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 1: do the best that they can that. That's honestly why

430
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 1: we we were just patient and we're waiting to get

431
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 1: this operation fully up and running. We're focused on on

432
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: micro farming our our own genetics and and specializing at

433
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 1: what we're good at. And and like I said, we're

434
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 1: very confident that we'll be up and running by the

435
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 1: by the time the first harvest come over October. And

436
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,919
Speaker 1: you were mentioning outside something about getting frozen cannabis and

437
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 1: doing three fifty pounds at a time. Is that what

438
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 1: I heard? Fresh frozen? So we we have a solventless

439
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 1: reactor that is capable of running three d fifty pounds

440
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 1: of fresh frozen per per wash and it can that

441
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: that converts to roughly a hundred and thirty pounds of

442
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,399
Speaker 1: dry material if you wanted to run trim so so

443
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean, we we're talking about the capability of running

444
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,439
Speaker 1: a ton of day through that material through that machine.

445
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: And and what our goal is is food grade solvent

446
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 1: lists for like for making edibles, for making topicals. We

447
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,239
Speaker 1: think that that really is where providence exists, you know,

448
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 1: like like removing food grade topicals edibles, yep, and just

449
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,120
Speaker 1: creating the by product for them. So we don't really

450
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: want to go into the formulation of those different things,

451
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 1: but we want to bring the cost of the by

452
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 1: the constituent materials to something comparatable to a distolate so

453
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 1: that you would have a choice. You know, like creating

454
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 1: that market segmentation is important to us because we're providence people.

455
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 1: Like what you read there is like we know our

456
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: product and we care about the chemical composition. We we

457
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: care about everything like down to the down to the

458
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,479
Speaker 1: molecular level. So so we're we're we're really trying to

459
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 1: be that that Google Alphabet of cannabis where you're always

460
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 1: constantly developing. And one of the things that really drew

461
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 1: me to the company is the fact that I'm really

462
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: always told to focus on side projects and keep ambition

463
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: going forward. You know, when you're in startup mode, very

464
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: often you get put into a single lane and you

465
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 1: get told to operate in that lane. Just do this,

466
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 1: just to stay here, stay here, don't you don't go

467
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: for shiny objects, stop, just go and do this. I

468
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to participate with the Cannabis Alliance for

469
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: Tax Reform for the for the state of California. You know,

470
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: like that's not even related to anything manufacturing. And it's

471
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: this great opportunity to be able to talk about tax law.

472
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: It's a great opportunity to do public public speaking demonstrations

473
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: in front of front of government, and it's a great

474
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 1: opportunity to just understand how you create change. You know,

475
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 1: the cultivation chat tax is now making a roughly of

476
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 1: outdoor revenue if you can sell it. So so I

477
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: I think it's really important that we all we all

478
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: band together. So one of the initiatives that we're leading

479
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: over in Lake County is we're going to all the

480
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 1: counties that have cannabis operators, and we're going to those

481
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 1: boards of supervisors and those city councils and we're trying

482
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,919
Speaker 1: to have them pass them basically a request to the

483
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: governor Newsome to suspend the cool motivation tax until the

484
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: tax reform comes in. And and you know, having a

485
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: crystal ball and and word on the streets, where do

486
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: you see it going? Taxes? I mean realistic? Where where

487
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: do they go from here? Right? Because there's so and

488
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: and I know, but I mean, you know, you know,

489
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: if you don't have a solution or an answer for

490
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like, what's the solution so

491
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 1: my first opinion is that a fixed taxes probably unfair

492
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,479
Speaker 1: until we figure out what the realistic bottom of our

493
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: industry is. Like all commodities have a market price. Cannabis

494
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: does not yet, you know, like it moves around a lot,

495
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: because we have to dual markets that are transacting in it,

496
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: and those markets have the difference in those markets are

497
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 1: the tax rate and they're massive, massive, massive competitors, and

498
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: and the tax right and and overhead exactly right, I mean,

499
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 1: because you're not you know, you're you're you're operational out

500
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: of your vehicle and I'm operational out of a building. Difference.

501
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: You know, I'm paying fourteen twenty dollars a month to

502
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 1: be here, okay, and I'm selling yeah, and this guy

503
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: and he's selling the same amount. You know, we pay

504
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: more in insurance than like most trap operations pay in

505
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: total expenses. And and that, yeah, I mean, I mean

506
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 1: that That's what we're trying to suggest is rational policy,

507
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: cohesive policy across the industry. We're not trying to be unfair.

508
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: I think the first thing is that the tax should

509
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: be based on sales. You know, having a cultivation tax

510
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: based on production that is predictive is unfair, you know,

511
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: like obviously all the operators want to add another acre

512
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: to see if they can increase sales. But if the

513
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: market bottoms out and they still have as many acres,

514
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: like the cultivation tax accounts for of now their revenue.

515
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: And again that's the type of thing where we're saying

516
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 1: we'll make it just based like a variable rate based

517
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: on a final sale what gets moved, that's what gets sold,

518
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: or a fixed rate that gets adjusted based on the

519
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: market price of cannabis. You know, like you you can't

520
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: have this like hundred eighty nine dollar cultivation tax for

521
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: a four hundred all our pal and like what we're

522
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: gonna do is clear the field and like put a

523
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: cow on it. You know, it doesn't make sense to

524
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: but cannabis until we figure out how to get the

525
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 1: tax right down. So so I think it's a balancing act,

526
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's understanding like where you can affect

527
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: change and affecting it and then getting back to work

528
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: and just grinding your ass off. It's so hard to

529
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: to figure it out, but God willing something like that

530
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: would happen. And how long have you been with this

531
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: company now still a new company? Is it Um, it's

532
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: a fairly new company. So it's it's it's about a

533
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: year and two month old company, and I've been with

534
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 1: them for about four months now. And like, like I said,

535
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: I work with a very intelligent, very passionate team that

536
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: comes from multiple walks of life. Like we we have

537
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: talent that's traveled the world, Like we we have our

538
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: breeder from from DNA from Holland, and we we have

539
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: our CEO does HVAC systems for all the major indoor

540
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: growers across the state. So so I mean, we we

541
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: have the knowledge base to to really understand what we're

542
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: getting into and what we're tackling. And and again it's

543
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: really about polishing, polishing what we we believe to be

544
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 1: a very true industry. So your primary customers though, are

545
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: the growers? Yeah, the primary customers are the girls or

546
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: or Greenhouse either operations, right, correct, We are our own

547
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: customer as well. I mean, we will also be operating

548
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: our own farms and making our own products and brands

549
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: as well. And and do you plan on operating outside

550
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: of the state as well or just California folks? Again,

551
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: those are questions a little bit higher than that I'm making, right, now,

552
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: but I'm sure there's always ambitions for M s O.

553
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: That's that's clearly the dream. It's the ms O push

554
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 1: towards I p O. I. I can't speak for our

555
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: higher ups. I do really believe we do like the

556
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: grassroots nature of our business and are happy with where

557
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: we're at in life. Like we we we have plenty

558
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: of too, plenty of equity or plenty plenty of capital

559
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 1: to accomplish what our goals are, and we have a

560
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: very big dream. So until we achieve that, there's no

561
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 1: real reason to start looking outward. Well, I can't wait

562
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: to see their dream. If you're a big grower, go

563
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: ahead and check them out online Alchemy, which is a

564
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: l C H B m y Gas twenty nine dot com.

565
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 1: It's at am Moody. It's Cannabis Talk one oh. When

566
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: we come back at them, we're gonna talk about this

567
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: low situation. This stay with us. We'll be right back

568
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: with Cannabis Talk one oh one. Welcome back to Cannabis

569
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: Talk one oh one. But Tender award you guys created

570
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: by G four Live with the vision to be the

571
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: most ambitious and essential cannabis event ever. This show is

572
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: designated design for people that want to take their business

573
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: to the next level. Join us in Las Vegas. May

574
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: have eleven to the fourteen two. At the all new

575
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: Resort world Snoop Dogg and Travis Barker will be performing

576
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: All the Way Live together for the first time ever.

577
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: If you don't go, you don't Grows Cannabis Talk one

578
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: oh one. We're sitting here with Adam Moody, the director

579
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: of manufacturing at Alchemy, and Adam, you know, I got

580
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: a little birdie in my ear, but Amy that goes.

581
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: Adam used to work at all. Did you remember all

582
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: the drama? He doesn't. He's able to talk about it,

583
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, no, wait. First off, Low Cafe

584
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Big Company, Low Big Company, Bill of den.

585
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: I mean the headline of this art of this show

586
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: is going to be something like Low Stormer. There's so

587
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: many stories we've heard, and I feel like it goes

588
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: back to the other podcast that we just did with

589
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: the Other Atom of all the stories that we've heard

590
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: of medmen and this and that, all the grease we've

591
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: heard of Low Cafe and Low Business. That all being said, brother,

592
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: how did you start with low and how did you

593
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: find them and take us through the whole drama that

594
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: you went through there. Amazing. So the first thing I

595
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: want to say is most of the people at LOW

596
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: we're tremendously talented people that I have nothing but respect

597
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: for the first day I was brought into four. Yeah,

598
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: well we'll get there. Let's let's most have story time

599
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: and like you can make your own judgments about the

600
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: people that. Look, there's two sides to every story, and

601
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: in this case, I think there's three. So so I

602
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: remember pulling up to the corporate office on uh Kuanga

603
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: before before they had moved, and I just remember the

604
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: first thing when I walked in, I was like, this

605
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: must be the most successful weed company in the entire world,

606
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: like everything before you worked there, before I worked there,

607
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: Like what I was going in to meet the CEO.

608
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: It was the second one for a few minutes. The

609
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: press was big. It was crazy crazy, like like they

610
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: had Sharon Stone and Woody Harrelson on the wall, like

611
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: everything was custom Italian marble. They were serving seven dollar

612
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: bottles of kombucha and like like edged glass. Like it

613
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: was first time I walk in, I'm like this this

614
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: place is crazy, you know, like just like the packaging.

615
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: Everything had a place, and everything's place was perfect on point.

616
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: So I walk in and I remember it was the

617
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: weirdest job interview that I've ever had to date, because

618
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: they already had a product. You know, this wasn't a

619
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: job interview to like take over a roll. This was

620
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: a job interview to do one specific thing. And so

621
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: so they throw the box down and they tell me

622
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: this really impassioned story and they're like, we've tried to

623
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: do a vape before, and I'm like, how did it go?

624
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: And so so the vape that they tried to do

625
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: before with Suicide Girl's vape, and like that's actually a

626
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: really funny story that all the apes on the shelf

627
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: after they made them, they turned dark black and they

628
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: had to be recalled, like like you had a distal

629
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: of cartridge that was but toughly that color yeah, black literally,

630
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: and so so like they realized that they can't go

631
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: through those steps again without having a formulation guy. So

632
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: the first formulation guy that got was like an edible guy,

633
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: and he had he walked into his interview and told

634
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: him that he could he could make rosin and he

635
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: could make solvent lists oils. And I remember I got.

636
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: I got a call from this gentleman and he's like

637
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: three months away from getting fired. Like I really I

638
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: need a little assistance on this one where you consold

639
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: on it. And I remember originally I was actually gonna

640
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: just pitch to White label this thing. I was like,

641
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: I got a good relationship with this other company, Like

642
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: if I bring him lull, like I become partner. So

643
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: I like, originally I I was a little bit more

644
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: ambitious with the deal, but that then they they had

645
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: other ideas in their mind. Like the first thing out

646
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: of Eli's mouth with the CEO at the time is

647
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: he's like, no, you're gonna come work here. You gotta

648
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: be part of the family. Like this guy was amazingly

649
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: good at making you feel like you guys were best

650
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: friends even though you didn't know each other, you know,

651
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: Like I I heard some stories on your podcasts about

652
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: how like people didn't drive around in aeroplanes and Lamborghini's,

653
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: this particular gentleman did so like yeah, so so there

654
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: was a black Lamborguni that had Low on the back

655
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,239
Speaker 1: of it, and like that was pretty much like our

656
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: version of the batmobile, you know. And and again like

657
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: this this all went to that image that like, oh

658
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: my god, everything about this place is polished Lambeau right, right,

659
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: I need to pull a couple of lambos that put

660
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: them in the back and stuff like that and get

661
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: people really just jumping. Why not, I mean, just to

662
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: get them all liked one that says blue, yeah, super

663
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: clicked out that I would know where he was and

664
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: obviously like, like how many lambos in l A are

665
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: they that say low? So anytime somebody would see his car,

666
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: they called me up and I would just like a creeper.

667
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: R'd be like, so what are you doing here, buddy? Right?

668
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: So you guys are friends? Yeah? We again, the relationships

669
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: started really really great, you know, like like all good

670
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: things like when when when it's good, it's great. You know,

671
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: like they had just gotten some new funding in like

672
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: the jar and the PREI roll pack. We're famous, you know,

673
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: like everybody was talking about him like that. The creative

674
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: guys that worked at loew are still some of the

675
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: best of the industry has ever seen. You know, the

676
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: clamshells that they designed, the stories behind those packages are amazing.

677
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: You know what I would have came in and did

678
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: afterwards is I just expanded the brand. You know, I

679
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: came in and after I so I had a funny

680
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: story the first first iteration of the vape and I

681
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: brought in. I was really just trying to get the

682
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: flavor right. I wasn't worried about the clarity, and so

683
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: it was a cloudy rosin vape. But it was smokable,

684
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: it was amosified. And I remember I handed it to

685
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: the founder of the local concept of a gentleman named

686
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: saw Him Black. He's also the founder of Suicide Girls,

687
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: which is how those those relationships intersected. And I remember

688
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: handing him the vape and I remember he took a

689
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: taste of it. He looked at me through it straight

690
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: in the trash. Yeah. Like, this is what I learned,

691
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: the binary nature of successfully developing a product. Yeah, I respect,

692
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: you know, you get that like little tear. You's like

693
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: you think you did a good job and you're like

694
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: and then you're like then then you get yeah. Then

695
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: then you get an on remode and you're like, oh,

696
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: next time, I'm gonna put you down, you know. Like

697
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: so it really built me up. Like I I remember

698
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: when I first started it low I I honestly thought

699
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: I was in the best place on Earth doing the

700
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: best job. You know. It wasn't until like little things

701
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: started like falling through the cracks that did we realize,

702
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: like like it wasn't as polished on the inside as

703
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: it was on the outside. So so, like I'll give

704
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: you a great story. The first three months that we

705
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: were we were making uh, doing the R and D

706
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: s over at low Like we were working under a

707
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: formulation license, so we had to order the rows in

708
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: and then we could formulate the rasin that we brought

709
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: in an infusion license. And I remember what like I

710
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: finally got the R and D done for this product,

711
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: and I went back to the office and I was like, Okay,

712
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: let's start making it and and they said to me, well,

713
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: can you make it under an end license? And I

714
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: was like, not effectively buying raws in to put into

715
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: a V pen, You're not going to get the margin.

716
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: You need to make the raws in yourself. So so

717
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: we started applying for a type six license immediately. But

718
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: I remember that that same founder of the company was like,

719
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: we're not waiting three months to make a V eight pen.

720
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: And I was like, so what do you suggest And

721
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: he's like, well, we have this we have this friend

722
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 1: over here, like a partner relations and ship, and they

723
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: have a type six facility that we can operate out

724
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: if we can lease. And I said, cool. The three

725
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: things that I need to make rosin as I need

726
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: to access to ice, I need access to water, and

727
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: I need a drain. So he takes me over to

728
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: the building and what are the three things This building

729
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: does not have water? Keep going yep. So so for

730
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 1: the first three months we would truck in IBC cages

731
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: full of ro o, water, ice, our hash washers, everything,

732
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: so we would set up the operation. We would run

733
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: all the water and hash that we had. I'm not

734
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: even lying. This is the first iterationalpen was made out

735
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: of IVYC cages. Said yeah, and and like like I said,

736
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: a ton, you know, Like all we had to do

737
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: was wait two months and I remember that this is

738
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: what I finally got the CFO, like I like, I

739
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: I get an email that says, I we need to

740
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: talk a little bit. We need to figure out like

741
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: why so much money? Like yeah, like what is this margin?

742
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: Like who did this analysis that I walked into his

743
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: office that I explained to it. I was like, no,

744
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: I said, this was a bad idea and he's like, so,

745
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: how are we doing it? And I was like, well,

746
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: we we made this weird false logic that getting this

747
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: to market sooner would be better, you know, like it

748
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: was during the big push when Lowell was in four

749
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: hundred stores. You know, we we were, we were doing

750
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: a lot of revenue. We just keep keep. It's okay

751
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: to take something. Some revenues better than none, correct. And

752
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: and the way we developed it's a loss is the

753
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: box was so big it took up a bunch of

754
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: shelf space. So the idea was if we could get

755
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: it on the shelf, we like we we would stand

756
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: out so well based on the brand recognition that that

757
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: it would carry itself. So we started creating these inventory

758
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: levels based on these like fictitious ambitions that were based

759
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: on like false metrics, and and that that's when it

760
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: started becoming this like we we It felt like we

761
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: were chasing our tail a little bit, you know, like

762
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: we we we we we had this. We had this

763
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: creative meeting where I got called into an office and

764
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to make nine different flavors

765
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: so that we can keep this thing rotating and we

766
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: can keep it relevant. We can keep dispensing re ordering it,

767
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: and I remember the same founder. He used to me,

768
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: He's like, there's only one good flavor, We're just gonna

769
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: make that one. I'm like, you want to make ani.

770
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: This is famous, there's one of the one of them.

771
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: The guys that works here, was like, why do you

772
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: only make pink limonade? And I was like, I'm not

773
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: entirely sure, Like I think we just had to run

774
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: out of our friends pink lemonade before we could start

775
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: making something. And don't get me wrong, one of the

776
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: best strains it won an Emerald Cup, like it was

777
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: a hashmaker's dream, great strain, but like you don't found

778
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: a vapen on one strain, So like just imagine like

779
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: how hard it was to recreate the other strains after

780
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: we had already done an initial push with stores. So

781
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: like we send out all this pink lemonade to all

782
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: of our flagship stores, so they're all putting it on theirselves,

783
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: and like we start getting back to these calls from

784
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: our sales reps and they're like, they need an Indica

785
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 1: and of sativa. We're like, yeah, that that makes perfect sense.

786
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: Like if you're gonna market a hybrid you gotta you

787
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: gotta market the other two. So it could be lemonade

788
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: and pink lemonade, Like pink lemonade should have been the

789
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: you know Sativa or what happened or whatever. So so

790
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: that that that's when like my my role shift significantly,

791
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: Like like my my my best friend was the chemist

792
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: that ended up coming to Lowell too, and he was

793
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: the one who ended up doing most of the gruntwork

794
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: in the lab. But what would happen is is we

795
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: had to go into procurement because we had to source

796
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: and create product for stores that would get into the

797
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: store within fifteen to twenty one days. You know, we

798
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: had a three month runway to get precliminated in the store.

799
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: We had a twenty one day runway to replace it. Yeah,

800
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: so so I I mean, like like like I said,

801
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: it was, there's no need to throw anything under the bus.

802
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: What like the ambition that really pushed us in this

803
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: direction was this, just like you said, it was to

804
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: get there first and to take as much space and

805
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: the dispensary as possible. You gotta you have the opportunity

806
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: to take it right. Well know what we're talking about

807
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: the loss, right, I mean, it's like when when you

808
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: make a decision right you're like, Okay, what am I

809
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: gonna do? I'm gonna go take a loss? Why, Well,

810
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: because I have the opportunity to get into stores right

811
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: now and they're they're waiting for the product, and wait

812
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: two months, the hype behind Lowell might not be here.

813
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: So we have to lose was money by shipping the

814
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: ship in here, getting it in and then you know,

815
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: bringing the processes, even though it's on the cost of

816
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: more money than we're gonna make. We get the we

817
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: get the ball rolling, and then on the second run

818
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 1: we're back to making profitable. Exactly in the in theory

819
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 1: at the second run was vastly successful. I mean, I'm

820
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: never gonna dog the vapen. It was a great line.

821
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: The reality was the launch we had we had some

822
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: significant growing pain because we didn't really apply that market

823
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: research that was necessary for the launch um And fortunately

824
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: the launch went so well they let me design six

825
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: other products for them, so it wasn't all bad. Yeah,

826
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: we we did fullmount hash for them. We we did

827
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: uh but Bubble, we did Keith, we did infuse pre roles,

828
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: we did uh a rosin Dart, we did a disposable

829
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: vape and we did mints. So you you have successfully

830
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: took all those different product lines and then put them

831
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: into over four stores with yep, fantastic. Now we're to

832
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: go bad then, I mean, where's this bad part of

833
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: the whole? Well, as you know, Low is pretty famous

834
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: for pretty specific lawsuit that we we we had to

835
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: engage in, and and only because it's public and only

836
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: because we came out of it in a positive light,

837
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: do I do? I feel so confident in speaking about it.

838
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: But again, there was a turpulent year at loew where

839
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: we went from having a pop up in New wu

840
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: in Vegas where we were at the top of the world.

841
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: Jose Andrews was cooking food for us, and then literally

842
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: the next day we find out that the largest lawsuit

843
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: in California history has been served on on Low for

844
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: for for for operating a cannabis activity on under expired

845
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: license on Sunset bullboard. Where was that at? That that

846
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: was something I believe it was somewhere up in central

847
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: California really, so it wasn't even the one in l A.

848
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: I thought it was the whole No, So that that's

849
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: why this news was so bad. But were they all

850
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: affected at that point, I mean obviously not not by

851
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying, were they all shot down at that point

852
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: that they stopped the entire licensing or know. So what

853
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: they actually found out is after the investigation, they found

854
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 1: out that we did not actually know that the license

855
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: had expired on the facility we were storing material and

856
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: we were still treating the material is fully illegal. So

857
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: what what really put us in a positive light and

858
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: allowed us to move forward was the fact that all

859
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: the product that entered into the space was compliantly tested,

860
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: although it wasn't compliantly packaged because of the laps and

861
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: license at the facility where it was put in two

862
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: pre rolls. Oh so that's where it went wrong. Yeah,

863
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: just like remember the old days when you you had

864
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: a farm that had a manufacturing you could set the

865
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: b it was the attorney general. Actually, yeah, it's a

866
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: little different. Yeah, it's a little different. Yeah, they passed

867
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: it up. The result of it though, like I like

868
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: I said, it was ultimately settled and then we we

869
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 1: had to go through forends like Audit's for the rest

870
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: of our pretty much existence. We like it was funny.

871
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: The only thing that made it a little bit laved

872
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: was the fact that COVID had just hit. So we're

873
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: going through forensic audits through video chat, so it was

874
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: a little less forensic than you would expect if they Yeah,

875
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: that helps a lot. Yeah, I mean what's gonna be hidden? Yes,

876
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: your photoshop, Yeah, but no, I mean it was still

877
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: not even there. What's are buying that wall? Nothing right

878
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: here to show? Here you go, here, you go up

879
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: showing you right here. My kids, here's the perfect thing.

880
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: My kids are, you know now they're seventeen and eighteen,

881
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: about seventeen and nineteen and during high school. One of

882
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: them still in high school and the other one to

883
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: just graduating. But you know, they literally got a video

884
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: where it just shows my son, so it looks like

885
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: he's working the whole time. He does like a one

886
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: hour deal where he just on a loop and it's

887
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: just a loop. So the teachers see him doing a

888
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: whole loop. He's looking, he's looking at the screen, and

889
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: for one hour, this kid does the whole thing. And

890
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: then I'm like sitting on I'm walking in the room.

891
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you I said, how are you

892
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: on the screen in class? In class? And you're on

893
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: your bed your phone. How is this possible? It looks

894
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: like you're on the screen on the phone. I'm walking

895
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: in the room like, hey, what's up, dude. He's like, Hey,

896
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: he's laying on his bed and and and and the

897
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: screens moving and his face is on there and his

898
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: whole class is talking. I'm listening to his teacher talking.

899
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm going, how the hell are you on the screen.

900
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: And he's like, Oh, it's a new app, dude. It

901
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: just we just you know, app out. But you know what, Yeah,

902
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: I really would have needed that app to help me

903
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: pull some some metric tags because that was the this

904
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: this audit was so interesting to me because the way

905
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: that it works is they already have numbers. They show

906
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: up with a big list and and they basically just

907
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: start going through that list and you have to provide

908
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 1: the entire chain of custody for that list to show

909
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: that you did the compliant transaction. So, I mean, the

910
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 1: one lapse that we had was filing systems, because like,

911
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: like we had digitized most of this stuff so we

912
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: could look it up and knew it existed, but like

913
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: actually finding the tags was really like and the guy

914
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: just sits there like just like you said, like the

915
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: app He's just sitting there staring at you. And you

916
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: come back and you're like, I need to check this file.

917
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: He's like, We'll take as much time as you need.

918
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere. Really, yeah, do you Yeah, I'm

919
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: on the state exactly. I'll get paid over time. Go ahead,

920
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: and I'll wait big from So, so how does that

921
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: end up? I mean, I mean, obviously you guys passed

922
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: it right downtown they shut So ultimately Low was acquired.

923
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: So now we we passed the audit and we were

924
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: successfully acquired, and and Low Low Low was acquired by

925
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: Indus Holdings, and that's what became Farms Indus Holdings. Indus. Yeah,

926
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: they're they're up in Salinas and so and so and so.

927
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: Is that something that's behind him that's involved with them

928
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: as well or was it just another company They just said, hey,

929
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: come on, we'll take you as and call a day. So,

930
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: so again this is a little speculative, but I I know,

931
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident about this information. So originally I believe

932
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: that they were white labeling and co packing island, and

933
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: and they they had this ambition to have their own

934
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: brand so that they could vertically integrate the production. Low

935
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: at the time was kind of a weak player in

936
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 1: the space because our ability to sell farm was fairly limited.

937
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: So so what what happened is is there is a

938
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: great opportunity for an M and A and eventually it

939
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: was determined that just a buyout acquisition was in a

940
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 1: better interest and then change the name, change the name. Yeah,

941
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: that would you buyout and change the name? I mean

942
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: that makes no sense. I mean it almost feels like

943
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: they did. Why would you just start your your new,

944
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: your new process, like the new the new brand, and

945
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: keep with a name that's already has a name. If

946
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: you're a buy low right and you want low, yeah,

947
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: you don't change the name. Good name. I thought it

948
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: had a good name. No, Low Farms is still an

949
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: okay name. They just went from Low Herb Company to

950
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: Lower Farms. They're no longer Indus, you know, like the

951
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: Low Herb. Yeah, so we were called Low Herb Company.

952
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: That was the If you look at the packaging, it

953
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: says a little LHC. If you look at indus became

954
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: Lower Farms and the idea was correct, Yeah, the idea farm. Yeah,

955
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I know. Yeah, I thought they dumped the

956
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: name you're talking to alphabet Google right now. Correct. Yeah,

957
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: they just made it more like opportunistic for what they

958
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: actually do. You know, herb is not an appropriate word

959
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: for what they're trying to describe. However, farm farm is

960
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: and I appreciate the change. You know, like lower farms

961
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: is great. Is it the same leadership there with the

962
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: same guys leading that you text and say, hey we've

963
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: just seen the batmobile over here and all this other stuff? Oh? No,

964
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: every everybody, everybody had changed chance myself included like like

965
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: into spot I P and and they had a very

966
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: talented team that was capable of making similar products and

967
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: and and similar platforms and move out the way, let's go,

968
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: move out the way, Let's go. And how are they

969
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: performing today in your opinion? Uh, you're welcome to look

970
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,959
Speaker 1: at their stock price. I I don't talk negatively about

971
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: people that I have worked with in the past, that

972
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: they do the things that they do. I would have

973
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: done some things differently, but I'm confident that they'll move

974
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: forward and hopefully be better than they are now. I

975
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: love your approach and that's a great and not only

976
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: that it's very respectful, but it's an honest, But I

977
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: feel the same way to like about certain things unless

978
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: somebody that's how I rock period exactly, Like that's how

979
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: we would expect that's what we expect to like, you know,

980
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean, like what you say, you expect casts to

981
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: be like that. Look, man, we've made money there, we

982
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: did a thing or something went wrong in the South.

983
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: It didn't make my words together walk to the what's up?

984
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: I'm still friends with the O G S. I mean,

985
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: like the war stories were worth maintaining the friendships, you know,

986
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: Like I don't believe in burning bridges. You know, you

987
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: learn from these things, you don't. You don't throw people

988
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: under the bus. You don't. You don't stop working with them.

989
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: You just acknowledge that maybe you need to be a

990
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: little bit more cautious in the future, or maybe stay away,

991
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: like if in your own self interest. But but again,

992
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: like I evolved in this space because of that opportunity

993
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: in a way that I will always owe those people for,

994
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, like I I learned financial acuity from the CFO.

995
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: You know, the CEO is still one of the people

996
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: that I respects, And all of those guys are mentors.

997
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: To do with the tattoos and lake Forest that you

998
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: went to jail for. You know, May he rest in peace,

999
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: you know, now he passed on this unfortunately. Yeah, no,

1000
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: I out of honor to him, I tell his story.

1001
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: He was the first forty five cap in Orange County.

1002
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: You know, like, like not everyone has a colored past.

1003
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: It's it's it's about rehabilitation, and he was just trying

1004
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: to make a life for his family. Well oh yeah,

1005
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that being said, we didn't say

1006
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: anything about his past, but that guy had a rough start,

1007
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: right he did. You know, like like a lot of

1008
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: the people that work in this industry worked in this

1009
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: industry as a result of committing a crime, getting in trouble.

1010
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: You know, it was an opportunity to make money even

1011
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: if you've gotten in trouble. So so so again, I

1012
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: always try to look at people with the most positive light,

1013
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: and I have nothing but respect for him. But yeah,

1014
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: I I think it was one of those things where

1015
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: no matter how he had kind of aligned himself, it

1016
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: was ultimately going to fail because unfortunately, just like you

1017
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: guys said, there's not a lot of room in this

1018
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: industry for for darkness. You know, we we we need

1019
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: to lead with the light and I that that's what

1020
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: I learned from him. You know, I learned college, sure,

1021
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: I learned stoner is an interesting term, not necessarily negative.

1022
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: But I'm a businessman first. You know, I'm very passionate.

1023
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm an entrepreneur, you know, like I don't consider myself

1024
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: a loady. Like my mom always goes through the list

1025
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: of terms that she used to have, yeah, you know,

1026
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: like all those like eighties nineties terms for like like

1027
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: funny duddies that that were smoking the earth, and I

1028
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: I look at her and I'm like, Mom, you're nothing

1029
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: but proud of me. She's like, yeah, but I still

1030
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: like living, living, talking, talking, drive, you know. So it's

1031
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: it's really she does. That's awesome. So listen to I mean,

1032
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I love your story. Anything that we're missing

1033
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: here before we let you get on out of here,

1034
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,479
Speaker 1: I mean that we didn't cover that you want to cover,

1035
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think we got everything. I mean,

1036
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: I've always had great opportunities to work at places, just

1037
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: seeing the interesting things that happened behind the scenes. Always interesting.

1038
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: One of the things that Lowe did really amazing and

1039
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: I will never forget is stay threw a bitch and party,

1040
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: like when we used to have bud tender parties that like,

1041
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: those are some great parties. That's always the best part, right,

1042
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: Like we do great parties too in my book, like

1043
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: we host and we present great events where we care.

1044
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: We want to make sure you have a good time

1045
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: and all the good things that happened. And I agree

1046
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: with you, those are some memorable moments. We like to

1047
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: do that for people as well, especially you guys. Yeah, no,

1048
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: I've I've been to a play her as his events

1049
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: and like just wow, you know, you guys know how

1050
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,959
Speaker 1: to entertain. You guys know to make people. Everyone feel

1051
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: like they're a v I P. They're great. You wore

1052
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: a v I P M before we do let you go.

1053
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: We do want to do that at V I P

1054
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: High five with Adam Moody, the director of manufacturing at

1055
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: Alchemy twenty nine. Now, how old are you the first

1056
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: time you smoked cannabis and where did you get it from?

1057
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 1: Adam sixteen? My mom's My mom had a catering gig

1058
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: at five am, and I wanted the neighbor kids to

1059
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 1: drive me home, so she knocked on their door while

1060
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: they were hot boxing and asked him if if they

1061
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: would take me to school. She she didn't identify that

1062
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: they were smoking, so they just nerdy. At the first day,

1063
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: I was in chess club at the time, academic to cathlon,

1064
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,479
Speaker 1: so so they said they get me a hot box

1065
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: El Camino. I fell asleep in first period of English.

1066
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: Miss Reynolds will remember this story. Yeah, no, literally passed

1067
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: the thought you were dead. So let me ask you

1068
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: this being in chess club. Did you love the Queen's Gamut?

1069
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: Did I love the Queen's Big Gamut? I love everything

1070
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: on Netflix. It puts me to sleep. It's it's like

1071
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: a lula But The Queen's Gamut and Chess is just

1072
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: one of those shows that I never would think that

1073
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: in my wildest dreams, I would say, oh my god,

1074
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: this movie. What's it about. It's about a girl who

1075
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: plays chess, and I loved it. I really makes you go,

1076
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is amazing, such a good story.

1077
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't that final chess battle like it was really compelling.

1078
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: I really did enjoy it. There was because it was

1079
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: a little short, you know, like you got through it

1080
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: really quick for a Netflix show, you know, like like

1081
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: I kind of like something that I can binge watch

1082
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 1: for a few days, not like a day, but otherwise.

1083
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: Have you hit up Emily in Parishut? I have not yet.

1084
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to check it out. Check that out.

1085
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: Go ahead and check that out. Question number two Blue,

1086
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: Question number two of the High five. What is your

1087
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 1: favorite way to use or smoke cannabis. I'm a dabber

1088
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: solving list like I I my my, I will try

1089
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: other people's product out of respect, but generally speaking, out

1090
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: of the last eighteen years I've been in cannabis, of

1091
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: what I've ingested, I've made, you've made or grown? Yep.

1092
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: I I like, like I said, I believe in providence.

1093
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: I believe in knowing what I put it into my body.

1094
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: So I've I've had a role or contributed or otherwise

1095
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 1: made everything that I've smoked over the last eighteen years.

1096
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: I love that you don't want you know exactly what

1097
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: you're putting in your body. I mean, let's keep it

1098
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: one hunter, like will you come out side? Didn't you? Yeah,

1099
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: like I said, But again we got that from We

1100
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: got that from Adam, you know, like like he said,

1101
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: try it like whatever you have, but we know we know.

1102
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: But again I I do like the idea of it,

1103
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: you know, for for many years. So I could very

1104
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: much understand you because I was involved in it, you

1105
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like you're like you literally walk

1106
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: out the house and be like, I'm smoking this one.

1107
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: Like you might have five different brands that you're rocking with.

1108
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: You like, this is my my stride you know today,

1109
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: and you start taking that and you're living off of

1110
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: that one without harvest and you kind of just know

1111
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: what your baby is and you start rocking with it.

1112
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: You know what. You've got to talk to Amy about this,

1113
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: but she'll tell you when I got When I go

1114
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: to the Cannabis Cup to go meet vendors and talk shop,

1115
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: I usually pull out of my pocket and give them

1116
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: something to smoke. Very rare, very rarely do I sample

1117
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: at the table, but I will often pull something out

1118
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: that they say it doesn't exists, And I have you

1119
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: tried a solvent list turpin sauce and they're like, that

1120
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: doesn't exist. Like here you go, I made it myself,

1121
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: like you said, I made it this morning. I don't

1122
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: know if you know, but I'm the manufacturing director over here.

1123
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what I didn't charge of prototyping, so I

1124
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: make things that we never sell. So I trust me,

1125
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: there's there's a punch of things that still haven't been made.

1126
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: Question number three in the High Pi with Adam Moody,

1127
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: Craziest place you ever used cannabis or smoke The Great

1128
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: Wall of a country that I don't want to name,

1129
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: but the Great Wall of it was a place. It

1130
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: had seeds in it. I remember, like again, I was

1131
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: a really stubborn at a piece stubborn kid, so so

1132
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: no it was. It was an apple and it was

1133
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: during a music festival. Paul Oakenfell was performing at a

1134
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: electronic music festival on the Great Wall of China called

1135
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: the Yen on the Great Wall. And I remember it

1136
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: was my birthday gift because I saw I was in

1137
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: China for ten weeks that overlapped my birthday, and the

1138
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: other English people in the group bought me this ticket

1139
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: to this event. And I remember I literally bought dirt

1140
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: weed from an African in China and I brought it

1141
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: with me to the Great Wall of China and on

1142
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: a rainy morning, was sitting in a tower, chiefed it up. Dude.

1143
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this fun, Let me ask you

1144
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: this um you know China, Dude, ten weeks in China.

1145
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I was surprised you came back. Bro,

1146
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: I can't wait to go back, like you almost didn't leave. Huh.

1147
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: It was hard, you know, like Americans are like celebrities

1148
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: are right, celebrities, they take your picture, they hand you

1149
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: like kids. So what I was doing to sustained my

1150
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: lifestyle China is I was I was teaching English to

1151
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: so wealthy families to get rid of the accents, because

1152
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: English is compulsory in China, but they don't they learn

1153
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: it from Chinese speakers. So the wealthy people in China

1154
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 1: that plan on having their their kids like do international business,

1155
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 1: they'll have US Americans actually take them for a day

1156
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: and just teach them vernacular English. So they'd like pay

1157
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: for me to go to the park theme parks like

1158
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: Laser Tax just talk to him all that and I

1159
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: made I made us wages in China. I remember I

1160
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: had an internship for a company that represented Johnny Walker

1161
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: and Audie and halfway through the internship, I was like,

1162
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm making four times it's as much money, and I

1163
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: worked a quarter of the time. Like I love you guys.

1164
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: I'll do some events, I'll do some translating, but I'm out.

1165
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: You know. I had a little like a six or

1166
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: seven year old kid that like barely even talked, but

1167
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: he would like pointed animals and he handa and you'd

1168
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: be like panda, you know, just panda, and uh, that's

1169
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: great if you if you made me too, yeah, absolutely.

1170
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: Question number four of the high five. What is your

1171
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: go to munchies after you get high? Anything fried? Hot

1172
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 1: and fried. It's always fried, you know, Like I'll find

1173
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: myself like literally do the eggs salad sandwich when I

1174
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: give myself really high? Yeah? Just just what do you?

1175
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: Just regular? Right? Just just just mayonnaise, egg and then

1176
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 1: and some salt. A lot of people don't do the manais,

1177
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: So I do mayonnaise on it all. I'm a man.

1178
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: I do with manonnaise. I know a lot of I've

1179
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: read it. A lot of people don't. I'm just saying

1180
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: I know a lot, but I don't know. I don't

1181
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: know how they do it either. A lot of people

1182
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: don't buy mayonnaise. I would you put it in there

1183
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: on egg salad salads? I hate to hand with too

1184
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: many people, healthy people in Orange County. You know what

1185
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. No, No, Yeah, it's a Hispanic thing for me.

1186
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, I'm like, why I had mayonnaise too?

1187
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: I think, like, you know, I don't know macaroni salad

1188
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: for me, macaroni salad is just mayonnaise in the thing,

1189
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: and started adding all action. I mean, just go start

1190
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: with some mail. Question number five, Question number five of

1191
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: the high five you can smoke cannabis with anyone did

1192
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: or alive. Who would it be and why? I don't know,

1193
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: probably Winston Churchill. I want to hear the stories, you know,

1194
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: like I remember, like growing up, my favorite people that

1195
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: talked to you were like the guys that like like

1196
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: like really fought these like big massive battles. Like I

1197
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to smoke with a stoner because like I've

1198
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: smoked with some impressive stoners. But I really want is

1199
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: I really want to get a guy high that never

1200
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: in a million years would smoke and hear the fascinating

1201
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: things that came out of his about you know, so true? Right,

1202
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: What is you gonna say? What kind of story? Yeah, like,

1203
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: like you remember the first time you got high. Imagine

1204
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 1: doing that to the Prime Minister during World War too,

1205
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, like he'd be like the cactus told me

1206
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: not to tell you about the peace treaty, you know,

1207
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: like it would be something cool, it would be it

1208
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: would be that's a good one. That's an interesting one.

1209
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: I think we have somebody else say that before, though.

1210
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: Is there anything we missed so I know blues at

1211
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: you that anything at him that you want to get

1212
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: out there before we let you go. Now, last thing,

1213
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm pretty famous in Lake County. Apparently there's a small

1214
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: horse farm and you're not supposed to feed the bird seed.

1215
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: And I learned that the really hard way. So so

1216
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: if you ever come to Lake County, I'll show you

1217
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: the farm that I'm no longer allowed to harass the

1218
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: small horses on look up at a Moody out there.

1219
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Hey man, it's Cannabis Talk one on one,

1220
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 1: and remember this. If no one else loves you, we do.

1221
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one on one

1222
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast or wherever

1223
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: you get your podcasts.